I Think most of the hate comes from the price out the figure. It has the same defects you'd expect to find on a 100 bucks figure but they are not as forgivable on a 450 figure
i would say you are being too modest,i think ALL the hate is down to the price.people who cant afford to buy this are looking to jump on any negative and blow it out of proportion.its a psychological thing.if they can convince themselves its not worth the money then the fact its out of their range becomes meaningless.there could also be a case of conformation bias,they bought the cheaper alternate versions of the figure so the need to scoff at anyone who would dare pay more for something similar.i am lucky enough to be in a position to have purchased all three of these new primes and MP44 is by far the best of the bunch.MS/TE both look like prime,but MP44 IS prime.there are soo many people trying their hardest to make a big deal out of the paint chipping and the knee thing,it almost comically i will try to address this here.1.the paint unfortunately this is going to be an issue when dealing with any fully painted figure where things have to move past other things or painted parts need to tab into other painted parts,even the mighty fans toys are not exempt from this problem,so maybe the only real solution to this is to not have fully painted figures but that would be a conversation for another time.2.the knee breakage ,im going to be quite blunt with this one so apologies in advance,figures do not break,they get broken so if you break your toys,suck it up and take it on the chin,anyways sorry for the short novel but sometimes this fandom makes me sick to my stomach
If this was 250 everyone would upgrade and you wouldn’t have complaints. But it doesn’t match 450 standards and there is a better option out there with cleaner sculpt and cheaper
For me what this shows is Tamara is no longer the best company to buy your transformers from. Their figures just aren’t up to snuff compared to most of the other companies out right now. Especially price wise. They’ve priced themselves out of the contest. This again is of course my opinion. I’m sure I’m probably in the minority saying that. But it’s truly how I feel. Transformers belongs to the 3rd and 4th party now. With Takara and hasbro being left behind.
I do agree that 3p is keeping the hobby alive for sure! Takara is doing some things different with this release and I bet we see others follow suit with the articulation. Would be interesting to see what Fanstoys could do with a prime? Thanks
The added paint, electronics, and accessories have driven the price up to be sure. (though those and the added complexity probably aren't the full story) While granted most of the accessories Prime comes with do make sense, nearly all of them are probably going to remain in the trailer's storage compartment. (which in of itself may be stored in a closet somewhere unless you want to display the full truck mode and the room to do it) I'd happily leave those out if it made the thing cheaper, as nice of a touch as it is to have a voice box that does spout a couple of lines from Peter Cullen. (which leads me to ask why didn't MP36 Megatron or MP42 Beast Wars Megatron have lines from Frank Welker and David Kaye respectfully?)
@@DetectiveBarricade I really feel that the KO companies which added Frank Welker's voice to mp36 inspired Takara to include Peter Cullen. Just a hunch! Thanks
@@tydiriumhanger1320 Then can they get on to including David Kaye's voice into MP42? And possibly also less fear of a cracking crotch? (though hopefully it's only with the first few hundred copies and Takara caught and fixed it somehow by then)
I would have really liked to get this back at the pre-order stage. But the purchasing value did not make sense. Instead of buying this, I was able to get: MS-01 Masterpiece Bee 2.0 Masterpiece Hound And I have some money left over.......to spend on the KO when it comes out.....BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!
@@TheGreatAukGaming lol, don't really understand why it's unironic.......but like I said before......after buying those 3 figures, I still have some money left over for when the KO people finally release a KO MP44.
Most of the hate is the ridiculous price tag, with a touch of denial mixed in. I don't own 44 and I'm not buying it. I'm sticking with Magic Square until 44 gets KO'd. With that in mind I'm not laboring under the delusion that my MS-01 is better. 200$ is the point where I start feeling uncomfortable buying a toy, so 450$ pushes way past my comfort zone. My collection is reaching "it's good enough" might not be the best version but I'm done replacing shit.
It’s been said before but the hate comes from the quality with that price tag. IMO the paint ( which is absolutely beautiful ) & the G1 look is where this version shines. This the official, this is suppose to be the Prime if Primes leaving no doubt who is the best. This does not do that. I just hope this does not set a new standard for Takara, good to ok figure painted beautifully but charge more money than it’s worth just cause they can. That’s my rambling. Great video! Thank You.
This is such a great figure. I do like that the jetpack fits on mp Sideswipe. This guy had totally changed how my arc crew is being displayed just because of all of the accessories. I felt like roller and the battle station deserves a display now.
I am standing pat with my TE01. I just cannot afford 350 or more on just one figure. I think this does look better but the price is just outrageous honestly.
That's something to think about with the proper transformation. Maybe a topic worth exploring because I damaged a figure out of the box one time myself being hardheaded thinking I already knew what to do.
I think the other problem is the transformation wish is more complicated than TE-01. I think that's part of the reason this figure is so expensive is there charging you half for the ingenearing because of how complex the transformation is. Also it has electronics. Look at MP-10 it's has a pretty simple transformation and it's still consider one of the best figures ever made.
@@tydiriumhanger1320 Yes cause I was thinking: MP-1 wend it came out it cost like $50 to $70. MP-4 was the same figure jus whit a trailer so let's say $100 MP-10 cost $225 to $275 whit the trailer and that was ok still alittle bit pricey. But then came MP-44 MP-44 cost $450 that to expensive even whit everything it includes. What I think they are doing is there charging $225 for the figure and $225 for the ingenering.
As someone who owns both MP10 and TE01 (I love his clean look and heft to it), I agree with your video. If a KO is made of MP44, I might consider buying it.
I bought mine full price from BBTS. I wonder if those that bought him from Amazon Japan are having the knee problem exclusively. I have posed mine but I am careful and so far no issues after over a year.
It's seems as if no matter what new figure comes out, somebody's going to hate on it. Like you said people were hating on the mp Megatron when it came out. The paint was chipping off of that. People complained about the Fanstoys Motor Master's back pack, the new Mp Bumblebee's feet, Mp 44's knees, price and so on. Why can't we just be happy for people no matter what figure you choose to get. We're just having fun here! If any one decides to get an Mp 44, just understand that it's an expensive fig that needs to be handled with care!
Yes that is a great way to sum up what is going on here. I was fearful of breaking a few things on this with all those thin parts but was careful. I actually figured other parts on this would be most problematic. Thanks
Like I replied to Davide down there, no matter what the price is there should be no defects, an occasional QC issue, but NO DEFECTS no matter the cost or who it's made by.
I can forgive the price but ONLY if takara is out of money or the materials are more expensive. If the mp-44 is expensive because they just didn't want it for 100-200 dollars then i will stay at mp-10
At this time, my MP-44 does not have any major defects. Both my lower knee joints seem to be working correctly. I do not seem to have any paint chips nor any paint flakes during transformation. I will admit, I have been super careful because I have heard of all the difficulties. The only thing I can find is that the antenna on the heads are slightly warped and the fight stand does not lock (but I will never use the stand).
I feel that those who are careful with these figures can keep them from having most issues. On the other hand there are too many broken knees out there. Thanks
@@tydiriumhanger1320 Well... If I was not aware of the issues in advance, I'm not sure that I wouldn't have had the knee breakage or paint chips... Being aware, I was able to be extra careful. Some of the knee issues seem to be from improper usage. That said, I do think that there has been a running change on the knees. I got mine from HLJ and my understanding is that it was a 2nd shipment. Paint, just is always an issue with Takara MP... or any kind of product for that matter. If it is painted, it CAN chip. I am just always careful with my collection. I was surprised to not have the typical "paint dust" after transformation. We shall see how it holds up over the next few weeks.
Te-01 is still the better figure. The only thing mp44 has going for it is the paint. And I guess the ab crunch. Everything else te-01 beats mp44. At least in my opinion.
@ted bundy Well you can do do something like they did with the G2. Heck... you can make something with a Raspberry PI. Maybe for less... Like there are different ways you can pull some of this off. The voice chip is not a big deal for me.
I have watched a lot of videos about MP transformers lately because they are indeed incredibly nice but I think if I had to put my hands on one myself I'd be fucking terrified. I don't think I'd ever buy such an expensive toy even if I could afford it and with this one I think I'd probably get a heart attack from fear of breaking it.
Your channel is it's own entity and one of the best! I would love it if you could give us Saturday morning content as well. In this past year I have had some health issues and your content has actually been therapeutic for me and helped me get through it. You help people out more than you know sometimes.
Comments like this make me feel good! Thanks. I do post daily and I usually have my biggest topic out on Friday. I may even put out 2 in a day when all the review items show up. Thanks again!
This is why I dont collect MP. Oh and BTW, as far as crazy articulation for a Prime, MakeToys Striker Manus would like a word with you lol! No the price is tow high and I'm sorry but when it comes to quality Soul Of Chogokin still has MP beat price per pound.
My biggest complaint is the opportunity cost: three official versions of masterpiece prime and (soon to be) two official versions of masterpiece Bumblebee, but ZERO versions of so many key characters. It's makes the entire MP line lack cohesion. I have other minor complaints, but you covered all of those with about the same take as I have.
Mine shipped from amazon.jp on release day. My knees are solid. I was not careful at all with the knees. No issues. My hips are very wobbly. But he still stands fine. However, on the back of one of the ankles, it looks like it was painted by a toddler. It’s horrible. I contacted amazon, it will cost me $150+ to ship it back. Which they claim I will be reimbursed. But it’s not worth the risk and worry. So I will just live with it. But that.s really unacceptable for a $330 figure. I think after mp45 I am done with Takara.
@@tydiriumhanger1320 check and see if they offer the A to Z protection or whatever it is called on the us amazon site. that would cover return shipping. a 3rd party retailer will probably say anything to get out of that.
True, MP 44 price doesn't fits to be a $400+ figure. Way too expensive just for the sake of the quality, accessories and the sounds! Seriously though I own my MP 10 for 7yrs now, I would rather buy the Transform Element TE-01 now than the MP 44 real and the MP 44 KO ones.
After I made this video I realized they are very similar to the blast effect with MP36 also. They are tighter on the MP36 though. Is there a feature that can be used when it is split?
I think, for the price of this product, it shouldn't have all these major issues. They should've worked a lot of them out during production. I think that is why people are saying they are disappointed with this figure.
Takara had some lofty goals with this figure. Some minor shortfalls but overall it was good. I think they did fix some production issues but those first 500 or so should have been fixed. Thanks
My TE is near flawless. If only get this if it was much cheaper. Also the hips are strange as they look too far forward. 44s articulation is bonkers tho
You know I really understand you, with been an MP-36 Hater, I was an MP-10 hater, I just hated the fact there were a lot of Optimus Prime Mp 1 versions, and they made another one... smaller... I rather bigger figures, since they put more details on it. So I never bought an MP-10, I bought the MPP-10, MUCH BETTER. I never got the trailer for it, so I said would never get an MP 10, or else it was a gift, which I never got by the way. I thought to my self I would wait for the next Prime from TAKARA, and OH BOY IT PAID OFF!!! So yeah, what happened to you with Megatron, happened to me with Optimus Prime (My favorite Character).
Hey Mike… Bang out video as usual man. Responding to your vid… (1) I kind of disagree with you on the results of your poll in regards to people being loyalist to Has/Tak. I don’t think that’s the full truth. I have a couple TE’s… but I still have my MP-10 on display because I’ve had so much going on where I haven’t had a chance to play with it yet. It’s 1 of those figures that I think is good… but fits in the category of being a ‘tinker.’ Meaning it’s 1 of those figures where you take 3rd party add-on sets to it & mod it. I think that it’s good… but I think that there are a few things that they could’ve improved on. I find this kind of interesting, but the shattered glass & nemesis recolors seem to be more popular than the G1 coloration. So the 'demand' is there. I think what’s happening in the poll is that people are waiting to see what all the options are before they actually buy something. It’s gotten to the point that it usually wise to wait for the last company to release their figure rather than buying the 1st 1 that comes out because there are so many options for certain characters in this scale. There are many things that I like in the MP-44… but I think that there are a # of things in it that you can emulate in some other way & get the same effect. So even if the figure were going to $250… my gut instinct to that is still kind of a ‘meh’ because even though I think that MP-44 looks cool… it’s too much for what it’s not I think. That’s just my personal opinion… but that’s what I feel. (2) And I got feeling that the MP-44 will do pretty much what the MP-10 did the 1st year that it came out. I generally get the Japanese releases because they’re better made than the crap that they release to the US market… & I remember that I paid $350 for him at the time. And he was quite expensive for those 1st few years. So I think that there’s an element with the MP-44 with that. That’s something to consider. (3) Where I think where the MP-44 excels is in the hips, thighs, & maybe knees. The ab crunch isn’t something that’s a must have for me. People that make a big deal about that (or in any other figure) start to make me think of that scene in Despicable Me 3 with the Yoga/Workout scene… ruclips.net/video/JAliaEVtN0o/видео.html I don’t know… LOL… But like with the TE… I think that the newer head for him is just as good as MP-44 (in general design), & I can see someone coming out with something to improve the figure like Ratchet & Ironhide is my point. If KO’s don’t come out 1st. I like to make my own props & stuff… so I can easily see that being done. Like I don’t know if you’re still looking for a Sidious hilt… but this might interest you… www.ebay.com/itm/Star-Wars-Graflex-Skywalker-Darth-Sidious-lightsaber-hilt-prop/123897124359?hash=item1cd8d81607:g:eksAAOSwAy9dTXwX (4) “I’d rather spend that $$$ on other figures that I don’t have.” BINGO! LOL Anyway… rant done… as usual! LOL Again… cool vid man!
Great points about poll results. I know there are many who have more than one and I figured they displayed the one they liked the most. Yes people were paying $300 to $350 for MP10 when he came out which is the MP44 price at Amazon JP. Lucky for us there are $100 options for prime that are not very bad! Thanks for the link to that hilt. I am looking for the FX saber that lights up but has that hilt. I may just do my Lightsaber vid without that one.
@@tydiriumhanger1320 Just out curiosity… why are you only interested in getting a FX hilt? Are you trying to finish off a collection (like finishing off a ‘baseball set”) type of thing? Buying it just for the trademark? Or are you all thumbs when it comes to electronics? No right or wrong here… but I’m just curious to know why. Because I’m trying to help out. Just trying to figure out where you’re coming from. The reason why I ask is started making my own hilts maybe 10-12 years ago after I came down with cancer… & when I started doing sabers… I started with FX & MR hilts because I didn’t know any better. But after playing around with it a bit, I found out there are better options. That & if you’re looking at an investment… I noticed that fan made hilts (even without electronics installed) tend to sell for more than the official licensed products later down the road. Especially if it’s a novelty hilt. And usually (98% of the time), the fan stuff is better made as well. When you take a look at the comparisons of the 2, depending on the manufacture… the fan hilts are better detailed… & better built. Which is why I referred you to that seller because I know that brand. The hilts that he produces have been quoted by the prop makers at ILM to be better made/done than the 1’s that they produced for the film. Apart from from of the special edition FX & MR hilts (like the Mara Jade, AOTC/ROTS Anakin), a lot of those hilts don’t sell for a lot. Even in good condition. It’s just that the turnaround isn’t very good. Basically what you pay is what you get back in a few years on most of them. A few hilts may go for more because they’re more of a rarity… but I’ve done WAY better with some of the fan installs that I’ve sold than ANYTHING that I had from the FX/MR series. My point is that you can take that hilt I showed you, have a smith do the install if you feel that you can’t do it, put in a Plecter Labs board, do a pixel blade… & that saber will blow away ANYTHING that you have in your collection! From the visual appeal, the brightness of the blade, & how much louder it will sound… NO COMPARISON! It’s like having a Toyota vs a Lamborghini. They both get you there… but 1 gives you a little more ‘umph.’ And I’m not knocking what someone has or doesn’t have… but sometimes when you discover that you have more options… you realize the your 1st option doesn’t look as good as it did when you 1st saw it. I’m very serious about my hilt collecting, & talking from a guy that’s been there… MR/FX hilts are nice if you’re a casual collector… or new to the hobby… but there are a # of other hilts out there that are a better value than just getting a FX/MR. Now if you just have it as a display piece for your desk or whatever… no big deal… especially if it’s static… but if you want to go with the lights, the whistles, & all that junk… you can do better. The last 2 ESB Luke Graflexs that I sold for example… 1 sold for $980 right off the bat… & the 2nd 1 sold for about $1,200. The prices are going down because people I think are losing interest in SW, but if you invested $200-300 in that hilt… you’d get a grand for it in a few years easily. That’s my point. I kinda don’t like to talk about subjects like this because I don’t want to come off as overly abrasive, opinionated, or make people feel like their collection isn’t good enough (I wouldn’t do that anyway… at least intentionally), but there are better options out there… & surprisingly people don’t know it. Unlike the MR hilts that you mentioned, what’s nice about these about these installs that you can actually duel with these… & you really can’t with a FX/MR. I don’t have have videos to show… but my Yun hilt has a ¾ blade in it, & I went to town on a stop sign near where I live, & after 10-15 mins of whacking on it… the blade was still working. The plastic blade was all chewed up, but the electronics still worked fine. The blade is nice & thick & sturdy. It feels very much like a broomstick… & if I were wailing on someone… they’d be pretty beaten & bruised up with the way that I was laying into it. I wasn’t going full strength… but enough to do damage. Enough to bust windows out of a car. And the blade/electronics in the hilts still worked is my point. I don’t know if you know anything about this… but as a suggestion… I’d advise you to look into it. Just to see what’s there because I have a feeling that you’d be more impressed with what’s in the fan community than what Hasbro puts out with the Black/FX/MR series. Just a suggestion. Here’s a few videos to show you what I’m talking about… ruclips.net/video/ixgHBZ8tBJo/видео.html ruclips.net/video/5h3NFiZoFY0/видео.html ruclips.net/video/20Lfh3B2SQ4/видео.html But good hearing from ya man! Take it easy!
I would bet that the American release of ver 3.0 Optimus Prime will be cheaper, but not come with many accessories. I would bet it still has the knee problem, though! And I wouldn't expect it until later next year
My MP-44 isn't showing up for another two days but I'm going to be super careful with it. Once it's in robot mode, I probably won't transform it again for a long time. I may get the black version of the TE prime for a Nemesis Prime but I sure won't be spending another $400 on a recolor of MP-44.
This is the definitive OP up to this date, they just critizing because of the price and other cannot afford to buy it, but for me this is the reality for being a collector is a wasting of money with happiness..
That is a great point! I miss the days of TRU with the affordable options like they did with MP-08 9 10 and a few others. Some of those had less accessories and a lower price. Thanks
Maybe that's why they are taking time for mine it was supposed to be delivered 3-4 days ago. I don't want a broken knee or chipped paint be personal I would replace the crouch yellow paint with yellow plastic a the grey sides with also plastic. What you think
I am good with the paint and it looks so good. I think the paint will chip over time if you are not careful but I have not had that problem yet. Yes you should get one that has the fixes. Fingers crossed. Thanks
8:57 The reason I see is to prevent breaking the peg. Both Gundam figures and model kits have an issue, where if you pull too hard, the beam saber peg will stay stuck in the handle, and break the connection with the saber entirely. This seems to be a clever design to avoid that, so that if you pull too hard, the piece itself naturally comes apart, rather then peg snapping.
Tydirium hanger cool , yeah I have that one and is pretty amazing , also you can get a third party cargo part , I got both and it is just amazing huge , I know is not on perfect scale to my gijoes , but hey sometimes in the g1 series they weren't at perfect scale either , the drawings mass shift hahaha , mp01 looks amazing next to my gijoes , still looks cool , and I like that the scale was bigger back then , that portraits better the feel of the transformers , I didn't like they made them smaller , I'm looking foward to see your reviews , if you get mp01 , look for the third party cargo part for it , it looks very dominant !
I display my Autobits squared up against the Decepticons (so I see them predominantly from the side and thus the huge backpack would be rather unsightly). Plus MP44’s legs have too many gaps and panels I’ve seen come undone during articulation in other reviews. I really don’t think MP44 is more cartoon accurate than TE01... Be that as it may, to each their own. I just wouldn’t be able to justify buying such an imperfect item (as noted breakages and paint damage happen, which is dissapointing in such an expensive collectible) for the amount of money that would get you 2-3 Gigapower Dinobots
The knee issue isn't from transformation. TMan978 did a video showing exactly what the problem is and how it may be fixed. (though some people may balk at the very notion of having to fix such an expensive figure)
Yes I just watched that Tman vid and he did a great job explaining the issue. Now I have even less worry about the knees because it is a relatively simple fix. Thanks
@@tydiriumhanger1320 I just did that fix to mine today and it is absolutely NOT an easy fix. Putting it back together with those powerful springs launching the ratchet parts every which way was terrifying.
@@SteveUyProductions I believe that If I handle mine carefully I can avoid that issue but then again I have broken a figure or 2 in my day! Thanks for sharing.
i was thinking about doing it off the bat to one of the ones i have not showing any problems yet...but then i'm like...does it even need it done? and what would be the best glue to use? getting it apart and back together wouldn't be a problem.
I think all the hate is just about jaloursy and sadness because of the price. People realy like it, but it’s way expensive, so they make up excuses for not buying it. The paint chipping and flopping of the legs will be different with each figure. Trowing it around is stupid and offcourse it will break on you. I’m getting Mp-44 this week, so i will be checking in on you about what i think of it. By the looks of it i’m gonna love him. Nice vid, till next time. Cheers
Hey mr. Hanger, like i said before, i would come back at Mp-44. So i have gotten Mp-44 yesterday and played around with him. I must say.....this is a beautiful figure! The paint is very good (not as spot on as Fanstoys though) and i have a few very small blamish on it, you can hardly see it. The transformation is involved, but very smooth. Everything goes where it should be easely. All of the extra’s are very nice and work perfect, with the exception of Spike (his arm will fall of very easy) The knees work good, but he’s missing one ratchet in his knee (right out of the box/never transformed). So that could be a problem, but it doesn’t effect anything! He’s standing sturdy and the legs aren’t flopping around or something. So Yeah, thats pretty weird and i will contact my distrubiter for that. So now the $450 question..... Is he worth the price? Yes and no! I display him with the trailer in docking mode and the minifigures around it, so for me the price is justified. Do you want to display only Optimus without anything else, i must say you would probbebly be better off with TE-01, or MS. I hope this gives people some arguements wheter to buy this, or not. Cheers
Expectation are high in a $450 figure price… collectors care for the robot gun & quality…not for the tons of accesories… TE01 will thrash mp44 quasimodo figure (hunchback of cybetron) 🤣🤣🤣
i just read that it will NOT be a limited edition & that more will be on the way eventually. 🤞 i don’t really buy doubles anymore but i would for Galvatron
Yep, that price is just way, waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy out of line. It does look cool, but no way because of the price. It will be interesting to see what the KOs cost. Half Takara's price would still be way too much.
It's agreed that the biggest hate comes from the price. Too much for a figure like this. You'd be better off sticking with MP-10, TE-01, or MS-01. However if Toy House Factory or Infinite Transformation can make a very good KO then I might consider getting it, especially since it'll be a fraction of the price.
@@aarondetmer946 Fair enough, some KOs will never be as good as the original. I've got oversized versions of MP-10 Prime and Ratched from Wei Jiang and they look and feel awesome.
@@tydiriumhanger1320 yah, I got IT02 mp dinobot. I'm not saying it's horrible, but compared to their IT01 mp megs, it's not as good. Having to manually sand the sword peg down so it can fit in the hand, and poor tolerances that the torso compartment doesnt close all the way. Of, and in dino mode the tolerances for the belly panel are off because it keeps popping out of its friction hold.
@@tydiriumhanger1320 After all, KuBianBao straight killed it with MP10V. The only sacrifices that had to be made were the loss of the folding mirrors (no big deal), the loss of the lock/release mechanism in the legs for going to & from truck mode (odd, but no big deal, I didn't see why it was a thing on the regular MP10), and the loss of the slider mechanism in the feet for truck mode (again, really odd but no big deal, idk why that was a thing on the regular MP10 either). Maybe if they can make a Voyager sized MP44 successfully, they'll have the know-how to go back and finish MP36V. All MP44V would lose at minimum are the electronics and the folding mirrors.
I saw many collectors that I knew sell off their mp10 to get a MS or TE and I thought more collectors swapped out for other options. This poll really helped me get a true picture. Thanks
@@tydiriumhanger1320 i guess the fact that MP44 and MP10 tied in the poll reflects that. It just seems weird to me how people swap out their collectibles. I've never sold anything. When I buy something, it's forever.
You should treat mp44 like gx71. This is a high end figure just like soc or dx chogokin or hot toys, you can play with it, sure, just be gentle with it. The haters, sadly, are the people who really couldn’t afford this version of optimus prime to be honest. Which is understandable due to the high price, even surpassing gx 71 (msrp price of course)
Well there will be the first runs that have trailer and all accessories but I think a couple KOs will be barebones with no trailer and cheaper. Yes they will milk this for all they can! Thanks
A lot of people forget there is a lot of accessories with this and i am happy with that. Because i am a newbie collector and now i have all i need for optimus. Great video btw!
So here’s an idea for the next video discussion. How about what your/our thoughts are on who Takara will release for the MP line? I believe it will be Jazz. He was a solid G1 character that can help solidify the cast of characters we have so far. Plus, Takara can double dip with a Stepper repaint/mold. 👍🏾
@@tydiriumhanger1320 Thank you. It's cool to have different aesthetics. I don't think MP10 is competing with MP44 which is smart on Takara's part. They are going for different looks. Like MP36 and Apollyon. TE and MS are competing with MP44 but IMO they don't look nearly as refined.
I think MP44 is probably a good toy it's just not for me. I don't like all the panel lines and gaps. TE 01 is solid all around. I bought mp 36 and sold it right away not because it was flawed but because of all the gaps and the backpack. I have the IT ko and enjoy it mostly for the English voice chip. If a ko came out with more English voice clips for MP44 I might be tempted to pick that up but that is the only reason.
Thanks for sharing you points. Which Megatron do you display if you got rid of MP36. Just curious as I have been comparing all the 3p options lately. Thanks
@@tydiriumhanger1320it is an amazing time where we can have so many options and different price points so many more people can get involved in the collecting
Not everybody who doesnt want MP44 is a "hater". I just dont need another prime, and if I did, I would go with Magic Square. And of course the price is ridiculous. I wouldn't pay a penny more than $280 for it. And I'd have to really, realy want it to pay that much.
0:57 Did you just like your own post? Also like what the other people have said and I even said it as well before. People are hating on MP-44 because for an extremely expensive figure. It was riddled with QC issues. MS, TE, and MP-10 were pretty much perfect out of the box and you didn't need to modify them like they were some third party stuff.
Yes I did like it. My first poll and it did not leg me vote. I was clicking all kinds of stuff..LOL Yes the QC on this should be top notch. Like I said the couple issues I had we minor in my book. No I did not have any issues with MS or TE so good point. Thanks
@@tydiriumhanger1320 They need to do what FT does and stick a QC check sticker. Then again even with that sticker some of the FT stuff are just not that good lol and that's FT.
@@tydiriumhanger1320 Oh yeah you did say at one point that if you can think a pose it's possible with MP-44. Update video with a ton of Jojo poses. Please and Thanks.
one of the things that I don't like about mp44 is the price, and the transformation. but I do love the sculpt. I wish takara would never take notes from mp36.
I waited for mp44 reviews untill deciding what to get. Depsite my original hate for the mp44 and his back, I still thought he might be worth it. I have a friend who got it....and its much more loose than it should be. But the knee was busted out of the box. Even if the knee wasnt broken I still think both TE and MS are better choices. MS if you want a beefimus and TE for screen accuracy without sacrificing the back like mp44. Mp44 has a VERY ugly back and you always see it.
Well this figure is not for everyone. MS and TE are great but I feel MP44 is a bit more toon when comparing all from the front. I have all the other versions but this figure make me want to keep putting it in dynamic poses and that has not happened with any other MP figure.
EVERYONE .... Complaining about this figure is insanely rediculous... He has BOTH Japanese anime voice n MR. PETER CULLEN... MP -44 is King!! 100 bucks over priced but hey 🤷♂️.. it is what it is!!! PERFECTION!!!
MP44 looks awesome but the retail price is ridiculous especially compared to MP36 which also has electronics and a ton of accessories and is $220 cheaper than the new optimus prime. I seriously don't know what takara was thinking when they priced MP44. I just when they decide to make the nemesis prime version that they ditch the electronics and whatever accessories it has it will come in at a cheaper price
I want MP-44, but I think I got to wait until they sort out the issues on a later run... I'm not interested in bent ears, broken, knees, and bad paint. I'm okay with price tag if the QC is deserving of it.
I can afford it and still wont buy it. The Knee thing happened to quite a few people who barely even applied any force to the joint. At some point Takara has to take the blame for over- engineering this figure. Yes paint wears out, especially in Transforming toys, but to have paint and QC issues, right out of the box on a toy north of $400 US is ridiculous. I for one would like to thank Tydirium Hanger and all the others who have reviewed this figure. Thanks to them I will be quite content with my TE OP Leader ( I never really cared about the Trailer or Roller) and my $400 Plus dollars in my pocket. Just Sayin...✌
That is a great way to go. I remember in 2013 when the TRU mp-10 came out there were no options and collectors paid up to $350 to get one. These days we have great options unlike the past. Thanks
I love the fact that you were brutally honest with it not being worth 450. I think most youtubers would have said something like "well you know it depends...." No doubt mp44 is the best prime out there but at 450 it shouldnt have those qc issues.
Not with that price point they're not in to win im my opinion...I can't see paying that price point for that little an action figure my Devastator is more bot with less the price
I don't hate this figure because of the price, I hate it because it looks like a panelly/gappy mess in both modes, not to mention TT's obsession with HUUUUGE backpacks. It's just happens to be even more unforgivable once you factor that price in. All the QC issues I'm starting to hear about make it even more egregious. And I really can't take that poll seriously. TF collectors are notorious for defending expensive choices even if they are inferior...I want to see reviews of this guy from somebody who is borrowing it or on loan, not who paid out of pocket.
@@darkj82 Just watched it...was rolling my eyes through it because it sounded like he was giving everything bad a pass, but then he completely shocked me at the end. His final thoughts on it were pretty brutal.
Yes I do agree that everyone tends to defend their purchase. I do like this one better than the other 3 that I bought. I wish I got it cheaper though. Thanks
Now that I've seen reviews and transformation of MP44. I can say that the backpack doesn't bother me as much as it did in pictures. Unfortunately the transformation doesn't seem fun at all and it seems very loose in the videos I've seen. that truck bed really does bother me. I understand that they are ment to be looked at from the front but man it feels lazy after seeing the 2 third parties. looking clean in both bot and truck. I really do want the accessories for MP44, I wish I could buy just those accessories separately. btw, status of Unicron at haslab doesn't seem to have gone up at all since the 31st. not gonna lie it has me worried. Edit: can you confirm if the trailer will fit with transform element's hitch?
I've seen videos with this guy was shaking his mp 44, handling it very roughly, shaking it it and everything. I was like come on son, what are you doing?
Also no one really speaks about rage formers when some knuckle head gets ticked off and frusterated and transforms their figure in rage and damages the fig...bobby skull face rageformed power baser,kronos,ollie
MP 36 I remember being 200 max ( just like Dinobot ) MP 44 is 450 ( 600 depending on where are you buying him ) as well as having a nightmare of a transformation ( the legs specially, I bet those things would be the first to break ) People mostly hate on MP 44 because of most of its unnecesary complexity, why the legs are done that way?!!!
I Think most of the hate comes from the price out the figure. It has the same defects you'd expect to find on a 100 bucks figure but they are not as forgivable on a 450 figure
Yes I bet you are correct! Thanks
I wouldn't expect any defects at all no matter what the price, let alone $500 or $100 or even $20.
Davide Z this is a pure money grab from Hasbro also raising price point so you don’t ask questions when over paying for bumble beee v2
Nailed it.
i would say you are being too modest,i think ALL the hate is down to the price.people who cant afford to buy this are looking to jump on any negative and blow it out of proportion.its a psychological thing.if they can convince themselves its not worth the money then the fact its out of their range becomes meaningless.there could also be a case of conformation bias,they bought the cheaper alternate versions of the figure so the need to scoff at anyone who would dare pay more for something similar.i am lucky enough to be in a position to have purchased all three of these new primes and MP44 is by far the best of the bunch.MS/TE both look like prime,but MP44 IS prime.there are soo many people trying their hardest to make a big deal out of the paint chipping and the knee thing,it almost comically i will try to address this here.1.the paint unfortunately this is going to be an issue when dealing with any fully painted figure where things have to move past other things or painted parts need to tab into other painted parts,even the mighty fans toys are not exempt from this problem,so maybe the only real solution to this is to not have fully painted figures but that would be a conversation for another time.2.the knee breakage ,im going to be quite blunt with this one so apologies in advance,figures do not break,they get broken so if you break your toys,suck it up and take it on the chin,anyways sorry for the short novel but sometimes this fandom makes me sick to my stomach
If this was 250 everyone would upgrade and you wouldn’t have complaints. But it doesn’t match 450 standards and there is a better option out there with cleaner sculpt and cheaper
Yes I believe you are right! Thanks
For me what this shows is Tamara is no longer the best company to buy your transformers from. Their figures just aren’t up to snuff compared to most of the other companies out right now. Especially price wise. They’ve priced themselves out of the contest. This again is of course my opinion. I’m sure I’m probably in the minority saying that. But it’s truly how I feel. Transformers belongs to the 3rd and 4th party now. With Takara and hasbro being left behind.
I do agree that 3p is keeping the hobby alive for sure! Takara is doing some things different with this release and I bet we see others follow suit with the articulation. Would be interesting to see what Fanstoys could do with a prime? Thanks
The added paint, electronics, and accessories have driven the price up to be sure. (though those and the added complexity probably aren't the full story) While granted most of the accessories Prime comes with do make sense, nearly all of them are probably going to remain in the trailer's storage compartment. (which in of itself may be stored in a closet somewhere unless you want to display the full truck mode and the room to do it)
I'd happily leave those out if it made the thing cheaper, as nice of a touch as it is to have a voice box that does spout a couple of lines from Peter Cullen. (which leads me to ask why didn't MP36 Megatron or MP42 Beast Wars Megatron have lines from Frank Welker and David Kaye respectfully?)
@@DetectiveBarricade I really feel that the KO companies which added Frank Welker's voice to mp36 inspired Takara to include Peter Cullen. Just a hunch! Thanks
@@tydiriumhanger1320 Then can they get on to including David Kaye's voice into MP42? And possibly also less fear of a cracking crotch? (though hopefully it's only with the first few hundred copies and Takara caught and fixed it somehow by then)
I love MP-44 and I have all the other primes. Just hate takara tomy for over pricing it by 200 bucks.
That is so true! Still finding more it can do each day! Thanks
I would have really liked to get this back at the pre-order stage. But the purchasing value did not make sense. Instead of buying this, I was able to get:
MS-01
Masterpiece Bee 2.0
Masterpiece Hound
And I have some money left over.......to spend on the KO when it comes out.....BWAHAHAHAHAHAH!
That is a great way to beef up your collection! Thanks
Ko with better build quality BAHAHAHAH
Yeeeeeeeeees ( bw megatron)
You unironically bought mp bee 2.0?
@@TheGreatAukGaming lol, don't really understand why it's unironic.......but like I said before......after buying those 3 figures, I still have some money left over for when the KO people finally release a KO MP44.
Most of the hate is the ridiculous price tag, with a touch of denial mixed in. I don't own 44 and I'm not buying it. I'm sticking with Magic Square until 44 gets KO'd.
With that in mind I'm not laboring under the delusion that my MS-01 is better. 200$ is the point where I start feeling uncomfortable buying a toy, so 450$ pushes way past my comfort zone. My collection is reaching "it's good enough" might not be the best version but I'm done replacing shit.
So true and spoken from the heart! It is great we have so many options this go around! Thanks
It’s been said before but the hate comes from the quality with that price tag. IMO the paint ( which is absolutely beautiful ) & the G1 look is where this version shines. This the official, this is suppose to be the Prime if Primes leaving no doubt who is the best. This does not do that. I just hope this does not set a new standard for Takara, good to ok figure painted beautifully but charge more money than it’s worth just cause they can.
That’s my rambling.
Great video! Thank You.
Well I think their Hound will be outstanding as well. The price is a bit crazy and the QC is a bit off from what we expect. Thanks
Hey man... I beat you when it comes to rambling! :P I get ya though!
This is such a great figure. I do like that the jetpack fits on mp Sideswipe. This guy had totally changed how my arc crew is being displayed just because of all of the accessories. I felt like roller and the battle station deserves a display now.
watching this again while waiting for ko mp44, which had pics updated today. looking awsome.
fast foward today there are cheaper ko which permanently eliminate the thick backpack, knee and paint chipping problems... so glad i got the ko!!
I am standing pat with my TE01. I just cannot afford 350 or more on just one figure. I think this does look better but the price is just outrageous honestly.
That is a good option and you can get a other characters you need for sure. Thanks
That's something to think about with the proper transformation. Maybe a topic worth exploring because I damaged a figure out of the box one time myself being hardheaded thinking I already knew what to do.
That is a great topic to cover. Thanks
I think the other problem is the transformation wish is more complicated than TE-01. I think that's part of the reason this figure is so expensive is there charging you half for the ingenearing because of how complex the transformation is. Also it has electronics. Look at MP-10 it's has a pretty simple transformation and it's still consider one of the best figures ever made.
Yes it is a bit over engineered. That could be adding to the cost. Great point! Thanks
@@tydiriumhanger1320
Yes cause I was thinking:
MP-1 wend it came out it cost like $50 to $70.
MP-4 was the same figure jus whit a trailer so let's say $100
MP-10 cost $225 to $275 whit the trailer and that was ok still alittle bit pricey. But then came MP-44
MP-44 cost $450 that to expensive even whit everything it includes. What I think they are doing is there charging $225 for the figure and $225 for the ingenering.
Love mine no faults or paint defects. Paid £390 from Ajp and don’t grudge a penny. Amazing figure
Excellent! I couldn't agree more!
Thanks
As someone who owns both MP10 and TE01 (I love his clean look and heft to it), I agree with your video. If a KO is made of MP44, I might consider buying it.
I wonder what the KOs will fix, change or enhance? There never seem to be too many primes! Thanks
the white pants is for me a big fault, it was the fashion in the 80s but now ... they should have gone with a light gray, but I prefer ms-01
I can see that based on your preference. The white is more toon accurate but some like a more real world look. Thanks
agree 100%. in fact if i get TE-01 i’m gonna paint the White parts Silver
I bought mine full price from BBTS. I wonder if those that bought him from Amazon Japan are having the knee problem exclusively. I have posed mine but I am careful and so far no issues after over a year.
Mine will be here Thursday. Keeping fingers crossed.
You will love this and be careful! Thanks
It's seems as if no matter what new figure comes out, somebody's going to hate on it. Like you said people were hating on the mp Megatron when it came out. The paint was chipping off of that. People complained about the Fanstoys Motor Master's back pack, the new Mp Bumblebee's feet, Mp 44's knees, price and so on. Why can't we just be happy for people no matter what figure you choose to get. We're just having fun here! If any one decides to get an Mp 44, just understand that it's an expensive fig that needs to be handled with care!
Yes that is a great way to sum up what is going on here. I was fearful of breaking a few things on this with all those thin parts but was careful. I actually figured other parts on this would be most problematic. Thanks
Like I replied to Davide down there, no matter what the price is there should be no defects, an occasional QC issue, but NO DEFECTS no matter the cost or who it's made by.
Yes it should not have had that knee defect for sure. Thanks
I can forgive the price but ONLY if takara is out of money or the materials are more expensive.
If the mp-44 is expensive because they just didn't want it for 100-200 dollars then i will stay at mp-10
At this time, my MP-44 does not have any major defects. Both my lower knee joints seem to be working correctly. I do not seem to have any paint chips nor any paint flakes during transformation. I will admit, I have been super careful because I have heard of all the difficulties. The only thing I can find is that the antenna on the heads are slightly warped and the fight stand does not lock (but I will never use the stand).
I feel that those who are careful with these figures can keep them from having most issues. On the other hand there are too many broken knees out there. Thanks
@@tydiriumhanger1320 Well... If I was not aware of the issues in advance, I'm not sure that I wouldn't have had the knee breakage or paint chips... Being aware, I was able to be extra careful. Some of the knee issues seem to be from improper usage. That said, I do think that there has been a running change on the knees. I got mine from HLJ and my understanding is that it was a 2nd shipment. Paint, just is always an issue with Takara MP... or any kind of product for that matter. If it is painted, it CAN chip. I am just always careful with my collection. I was surprised to not have the typical "paint dust" after transformation. We shall see how it holds up over the next few weeks.
I can't find any blemishes on mine either. The knees are fine. Emgo's video shows how to articulate the knees.
Yes if you are careful there may be no issues. I have never Seen Emgo so gentle...LOL Thanks
Why didnt they put the electronics in the gun or the trailer? This was so close to perfection. That Pack just kills it for me
Te-01 is still the better figure. The only thing mp44 has going for it is the paint. And I guess the ab crunch. Everything else te-01 beats mp44. At least in my opinion.
Te is good and has a smoother look to it for sure. This MP44 is a great figure though. Thanks
@ted bundy Yes I was excited! Thanks
@ted bundy Well you can do do something like they did with the G2. Heck... you can make something with a Raspberry PI. Maybe for less... Like there are different ways you can pull some of this off. The voice chip is not a big deal for me.
True, TE-01 really nails it in the Optimus prime. Though it's similar like mp 44, it's really nails it. I'm going to get TE-01 too.
If this was 200 figure there would be no hate
I have paint imperfections and one part paint chipped so easily
Tydirum Hanger, when I want to transform my Mp-44 arms,they won't push back in, I did unhook everything but still,what am I doing wrong l?
I have watched a lot of videos about MP transformers lately because they are indeed incredibly nice but I think if I had to put my hands on one myself I'd be fucking terrified. I don't think I'd ever buy such an expensive toy even if I could afford it and with this one I think I'd probably get a heart attack from fear of breaking it.
Your channel is it's own entity and one of the best! I would love it if you could give us Saturday morning content as well. In this past year I have had some health issues and your content has actually been therapeutic for me and helped me get through it. You help people out more than you know sometimes.
Comments like this make me feel good! Thanks. I do post daily and I usually have my biggest topic out on Friday. I may even put out 2 in a day when all the review items show up. Thanks again!
I’m a little hesitant to get this figure cause if the issues, price, and Transformation and get MP10 but I don’t know 🤷♂️
This is why I dont collect MP. Oh and BTW, as far as crazy articulation for a Prime, MakeToys Striker Manus would like a word with you lol! No the price is tow high and I'm sorry but when it comes to quality Soul Of Chogokin still has MP beat price per pound.
I would be in on a Bandai Optimus Prime! Thanks
My biggest complaint is the opportunity cost: three official versions of masterpiece prime and (soon to be) two official versions of masterpiece Bumblebee, but ZERO versions of so many key characters. It's makes the entire MP line lack cohesion. I have other minor complaints, but you covered all of those with about the same take as I have.
I agree! What are your top 5 characters you would like made by Takara? I am working on a vid along that line. Thanks
agreed. amazing figure. not worth what they are asking with the issues people are having
I have mp 01 and 10 and 44 love all them
Agreed! Thanks
Big fan of MP01. Wish they would have stuck with that size scale.
Mine shipped from amazon.jp on release day. My knees are solid. I was not careful at all with the knees. No issues. My hips are very wobbly. But he still stands fine. However, on the back of one of the ankles, it looks like it was painted by a toddler. It’s horrible. I contacted amazon, it will cost me $150+ to ship it back. Which they claim I will be reimbursed. But it’s not worth the risk and worry. So I will just live with it. But that.s really unacceptable for a $330 figure. I think after mp45 I am done with Takara.
I was wondering about the return process. Thanks for sharing.
@@tydiriumhanger1320 check and see if they offer the A to Z protection or whatever it is called on the us amazon site. that would cover return shipping. a 3rd party retailer will probably say anything to get out of that.
True, MP 44 price doesn't fits to be a $400+ figure. Way too expensive just for the sake of the quality, accessories and the sounds! Seriously though I own my MP 10 for 7yrs now, I would rather buy the Transform Element TE-01 now than the MP 44 real and the MP 44 KO ones.
My Bluestreaks blast effect is the same way
After I made this video I realized they are very similar to the blast effect with MP36 also. They are tighter on the MP36 though. Is there a feature that can be used when it is split?
I think, for the price of this product, it shouldn't have all these major issues. They should've worked a lot of them out during production. I think that is why people are saying they are disappointed with this figure.
Takara had some lofty goals with this figure. Some minor shortfalls but overall it was good. I think they did fix some production issues but those first 500 or so should have been fixed. Thanks
My TE is near flawless. If only get this if it was much cheaper. Also the hips are strange as they look too far forward. 44s articulation is bonkers tho
You know I really understand you, with been an MP-36 Hater, I was an MP-10 hater, I just hated the fact there were a lot of Optimus Prime Mp 1 versions, and they made another one... smaller... I rather bigger figures, since they put more details on it. So I never bought an MP-10, I bought the MPP-10, MUCH BETTER. I never got the trailer for it, so I said would never get an MP 10, or else it was a gift, which I never got by the way.
I thought to my self I would wait for the next Prime from TAKARA, and OH BOY IT PAID OFF!!!
So yeah, what happened to you with Megatron, happened to me with Optimus Prime (My favorite Character).
I knew I was not the only one out there that felt that way! LOL Thanks
Even if we bought the official Takara ones, we sure have loose waist and legs! My MP 36 is so loose waist and legs. 🙄
probably the next one would be a screen accurate alt mode. bumper and headlights are still leaning to the real life vehicle.
That might be the plus version LOL thanks
The only issue ive had with mine is why has it taken so long for me to finally get a legit version in the mp 44s ? I think thats more my problem tho !
Hey Mike…
Bang out video as usual man.
Responding to your vid…
(1) I kind of disagree with you on the results of your poll in regards to people being loyalist to Has/Tak. I don’t think that’s the full truth. I have a couple TE’s… but I still have my MP-10 on display because I’ve had so much going on where I haven’t had a chance to play with it yet. It’s 1 of those figures that I think is good… but fits in the category of being a ‘tinker.’ Meaning it’s 1 of those figures where you take 3rd party add-on sets to it & mod it. I think that it’s good… but I think that there are a few things that they could’ve improved on. I find this kind of interesting, but the shattered glass & nemesis recolors seem to be more popular than the G1 coloration. So the 'demand' is there.
I think what’s happening in the poll is that people are waiting to see what all the options are before they actually buy something. It’s gotten to the point that it usually wise to wait for the last company to release their figure rather than buying the 1st 1 that comes out because there are so many options for certain characters in this scale. There are many things that I like in the MP-44… but I think that there are a # of things in it that you can emulate in some other way & get the same effect. So even if the figure were going to $250… my gut instinct to that is still kind of a ‘meh’ because even though I think that MP-44 looks cool… it’s too much for what it’s not I think. That’s just my personal opinion… but that’s what I feel.
(2) And I got feeling that the MP-44 will do pretty much what the MP-10 did the 1st year that it came out. I generally get the Japanese releases because they’re better made than the crap that they release to the US market… & I remember that I paid $350 for him at the time. And he was quite expensive for those 1st few years. So I think that there’s an element with the MP-44 with that. That’s something to consider.
(3) Where I think where the MP-44 excels is in the hips, thighs, & maybe knees. The ab crunch isn’t something that’s a must have for me. People that make a big deal about that (or in any other figure) start to make me think of that scene in Despicable Me 3 with the Yoga/Workout scene…
ruclips.net/video/JAliaEVtN0o/видео.html
I don’t know… LOL…
But like with the TE… I think that the newer head for him is just as good as MP-44 (in general design), & I can see someone coming out with something to improve the figure like Ratchet & Ironhide is my point. If KO’s don’t come out 1st.
I like to make my own props & stuff… so I can easily see that being done.
Like I don’t know if you’re still looking for a Sidious hilt… but this might interest you…
www.ebay.com/itm/Star-Wars-Graflex-Skywalker-Darth-Sidious-lightsaber-hilt-prop/123897124359?hash=item1cd8d81607:g:eksAAOSwAy9dTXwX
(4) “I’d rather spend that $$$ on other figures that I don’t have.” BINGO! LOL
Anyway… rant done… as usual! LOL Again… cool vid man!
Great points about poll results. I know there are many who have more than one and I figured they displayed the one they liked the most. Yes people were paying $300 to $350 for MP10 when he came out which is the MP44 price at Amazon JP. Lucky for us there are $100 options for prime that are not very bad! Thanks for the link to that hilt. I am looking for the FX saber that lights up but has that hilt. I may just do my Lightsaber vid without that one.
@@tydiriumhanger1320 Just out curiosity… why are you only interested in getting a FX hilt?
Are you trying to finish off a collection (like finishing off a ‘baseball set”) type of thing?
Buying it just for the trademark?
Or are you all thumbs when it comes to electronics?
No right or wrong here… but I’m just curious to know why. Because I’m trying to help out. Just trying to figure out where you’re coming from.
The reason why I ask is started making my own hilts maybe 10-12 years ago after I came down with cancer… & when I started doing sabers… I started with FX & MR hilts because I didn’t know any better. But after playing around with it a bit, I found out there are better options.
That & if you’re looking at an investment… I noticed that fan made hilts (even without electronics installed) tend to sell for more than the official licensed products later down the road. Especially if it’s a novelty hilt. And usually (98% of the time), the fan stuff is better made as well.
When you take a look at the comparisons of the 2, depending on the manufacture… the fan hilts are better detailed… & better built. Which is why I referred you to that seller because I know that brand. The hilts that he produces have been quoted by the prop makers at ILM to be better made/done than the 1’s that they produced for the film.
Apart from from of the special edition FX & MR hilts (like the Mara Jade, AOTC/ROTS Anakin), a lot of those hilts don’t sell for a lot. Even in good condition. It’s just that the turnaround isn’t very good. Basically what you pay is what you get back in a few years on most of them. A few hilts may go for more because they’re more of a rarity… but I’ve done WAY better with some of the fan installs that I’ve sold than ANYTHING that I had from the FX/MR series.
My point is that you can take that hilt I showed you, have a smith do the install if you feel that you can’t do it, put in a Plecter Labs board, do a pixel blade… & that saber will blow away ANYTHING that you have in your collection! From the visual appeal, the brightness of the blade, & how much louder it will sound… NO COMPARISON! It’s like having a Toyota vs a Lamborghini. They both get you there… but 1 gives you a little more ‘umph.’
And I’m not knocking what someone has or doesn’t have… but sometimes when you discover that you have more options… you realize the your 1st option doesn’t look as good as it did when you 1st saw it. I’m very serious about my hilt collecting, & talking from a guy that’s been there… MR/FX hilts are nice if you’re a casual collector… or new to the hobby… but there are a # of other hilts out there that are a better value than just getting a FX/MR.
Now if you just have it as a display piece for your desk or whatever… no big deal… especially if it’s static… but if you want to go with the lights, the whistles, & all that junk… you can do better.
The last 2 ESB Luke Graflexs that I sold for example… 1 sold for $980 right off the bat… & the 2nd 1 sold for about $1,200. The prices are going down because people I think are losing interest in SW, but if you invested $200-300 in that hilt… you’d get a grand for it in a few years easily. That’s my point.
I kinda don’t like to talk about subjects like this because I don’t want to come off as overly abrasive, opinionated, or make people feel like their collection isn’t good enough (I wouldn’t do that anyway… at least intentionally), but there are better options out there… & surprisingly people don’t know it.
Unlike the MR hilts that you mentioned, what’s nice about these about these installs that you can actually duel with these… & you really can’t with a FX/MR. I don’t have have videos to show… but my Yun hilt has a ¾ blade in it, & I went to town on a stop sign near where I live, & after 10-15 mins of whacking on it… the blade was still working. The plastic blade was all chewed up, but the electronics still worked fine. The blade is nice & thick & sturdy. It feels very much like a broomstick… & if I were wailing on someone… they’d be pretty beaten & bruised up with the way that I was laying into it. I wasn’t going full strength… but enough to do damage. Enough to bust windows out of a car. And the blade/electronics in the hilts still worked is my point.
I don’t know if you know anything about this… but as a suggestion… I’d advise you to look into it. Just to see what’s there because I have a feeling that you’d be more impressed with what’s in the fan community than what Hasbro puts out with the Black/FX/MR series. Just a suggestion.
Here’s a few videos to show you what I’m talking about…
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But good hearing from ya man! Take it easy!
But why all the paint chipping? What did Takara do wrong?
I would bet that the American release of ver 3.0 Optimus Prime will be cheaper, but not come with many accessories. I would bet it still has the knee problem, though! And I wouldn't expect it until later next year
That would be awesome but which retailer would carry it? Walmart stopped with the MPs and no TRU.
My MP-44 isn't showing up for another two days but I'm going to be super careful with it. Once it's in robot mode, I probably won't transform it again for a long time. I may get the black version of the TE prime for a Nemesis Prime but I sure won't be spending another $400 on a recolor of MP-44.
It is good advice to be super careful with this while transforming. Once tabbed all together it feels solid. Thanks
Wait a year and get the Wei Jiang 12" version which will correct the flaws for under $100.
This is the definitive OP up to this date, they just critizing because of the price and other cannot afford to buy it, but for me this is the reality for being a collector is a wasting of money with happiness..
If this was issued without the trailer, just the axe & gun, and was $200, I’d probably buy it.
That is a great point! I miss the days of TRU with the affordable options like they did with MP-08 9 10 and a few others. Some of those had less accessories and a lower price. Thanks
Maybe that's why they are taking time for mine it was supposed to be delivered 3-4 days ago. I don't want a broken knee or chipped paint be personal I would replace the crouch yellow paint with yellow plastic a the grey sides with also plastic. What you think
I am good with the paint and it looks so good. I think the paint will chip over time if you are not careful but I have not had that problem yet. Yes you should get one that has the fixes. Fingers crossed. Thanks
@@tydiriumhanger1320 thanks enjoy your. Mp 44. I'll still watch your videos
8:57 The reason I see is to prevent breaking the peg. Both Gundam figures and model kits have an issue, where if you pull too hard, the beam saber peg will stay stuck in the handle, and break the connection with the saber entirely. This seems to be a clever design to avoid that, so that if you pull too hard, the piece itself naturally comes apart, rather then peg snapping.
What about the mp01 ? The first Japanese Takara Optimus prime ?? That one is bigger and it's my favourite!!!
I really need to compare to that one. I was trying to get my hands on one of those IGear Scaled down ones for comparison. I like MP01 also! Thanks
Tydirium hanger cool , yeah I have that one and is pretty amazing , also you can get a third party cargo part , I got both and it is just amazing huge , I know is not on perfect scale to my gijoes , but hey sometimes in the g1 series they weren't at perfect scale either , the drawings mass shift hahaha , mp01 looks amazing next to my gijoes , still looks cool , and I like that the scale was bigger back then , that portraits better the feel of the transformers , I didn't like they made them smaller , I'm looking foward to see your reviews , if you get mp01 , look for the third party cargo part for it , it looks very dominant !
I display my Autobits squared up against the Decepticons (so I see them predominantly from the side and thus the huge backpack would be rather unsightly). Plus MP44’s legs have too many gaps and panels I’ve seen come undone during articulation in other reviews. I really don’t think MP44 is more cartoon accurate than TE01... Be that as it may, to each their own. I just wouldn’t be able to justify buying such an imperfect item (as noted breakages and paint damage happen, which is dissapointing in such an expensive collectible) for the amount of money that would get you 2-3 Gigapower Dinobots
Great points and you can get a few Gigas for that price. Thanks
The knee issue isn't from transformation. TMan978 did a video showing exactly what the problem is and how it may be fixed. (though some people may balk at the very notion of having to fix such an expensive figure)
Yes I just watched that Tman vid and he did a great job explaining the issue. Now I have even less worry about the knees because it is a relatively simple fix. Thanks
@@tydiriumhanger1320 I just did that fix to mine today and it is absolutely NOT an easy fix. Putting it back together with those powerful springs launching the ratchet parts every which way was terrifying.
@@SteveUyProductions I believe that If I handle mine carefully I can avoid that issue but then again I have broken a figure or 2 in my day! Thanks for sharing.
i was thinking about doing it off the bat to one of the ones i have not showing any problems yet...but then i'm like...does it even need it done? and what would be the best glue to use?
getting it apart and back together wouldn't be a problem.
@@chrisk8899 I am not sure what glue to use and I would wait until there was an issue before I glue anything. Mine still work fine
Sold both of my mp 10 to buy this.
Hate the price and knee issue but the rest wins all the primes out there.
The figure looks great but I wouldn’t pay $450 for it. I almost wish it was just posable figure and it didn’t transform
I was like...OMFG when Prime was holding Voltrons Blazing Sword. That was awesome. Keep the vids coming Mike.
It killed me that I left that out of my review and I had to squeeze it in somewhere! Thanks
I think all the hate is just about jaloursy and sadness because of the price. People realy like it, but it’s way expensive, so they make up excuses for not buying it. The paint chipping and flopping of the legs will be different with each figure. Trowing it around is stupid and offcourse it will break on you. I’m getting Mp-44 this week, so i will be checking in on you about what i think of it. By the looks of it i’m gonna love him.
Nice vid, till next time. Cheers
Please let me know what you think and if you have any of these issues. Sounds like you have the right mindset to not break it. Thanks
Hey mr. Hanger, like i said before, i would come back at Mp-44.
So i have gotten Mp-44 yesterday and played around with him. I must say.....this is a beautiful figure!
The paint is very good (not as spot on as Fanstoys though) and i have a few very small blamish on it, you can hardly see it.
The transformation is involved, but very smooth. Everything goes where it should be easely.
All of the extra’s are very nice and work perfect, with the exception of Spike (his arm will fall of very easy)
The knees work good, but he’s missing one ratchet in his knee (right out of the box/never transformed). So that could be a problem, but it doesn’t effect anything! He’s standing sturdy and the legs aren’t flopping around or something. So Yeah, thats pretty weird and i will contact my distrubiter for that.
So now the $450 question..... Is he worth the price?
Yes and no!
I display him with the trailer in docking mode and the minifigures around it, so for me the price is justified.
Do you want to display only Optimus without anything else, i must say you would probbebly be better off with TE-01, or MS.
I hope this gives people some arguements wheter to buy this, or not.
Cheers
Expectation are high in a $450 figure price… collectors care for the robot gun & quality…not for the tons of accesories… TE01 will thrash mp44 quasimodo figure (hunchback of cybetron) 🤣🤣🤣
Mike did you get a Toon Sovereign? i can’t find a preorder
I missed it but for $180 I do not feel I am missing much. This might be a great time to buy the older one second hand.
i just read that it will NOT be a limited edition & that more will be on the way eventually. 🤞
i don’t really buy doubles anymore but i would for Galvatron
@@android131c That will be great. Thanks for the update!
Hope a good KO of this figure gets made. Also all the other reviews I've seen on this figure have bent antennas, seems to be a common problem.
I am looking forward to those KOs also! Thanks
Yep, that price is just way, waaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyy out of line. It does look cool, but no way because of the price. It will be interesting to see what the KOs cost. Half Takara's price would still be way too much.
My bet is KOS for $150 at first and then the prices slip to the $100 level after a 6mo to a year
That's why MP-49 is better than this mold
It's agreed that the biggest hate comes from the price. Too much for a figure like this. You'd be better off sticking with MP-10, TE-01, or MS-01. However if Toy House Factory or Infinite Transformation can make a very good KO then I might consider getting it, especially since it'll be a fraction of the price.
I don't trust IT anymore since their MP Dinobot came out rather lackluster :-(
@@aarondetmer946 Fair enough, some KOs will never be as good as the original. I've got oversized versions of MP-10 Prime and Ratched from Wei Jiang and they look and feel awesome.
Yes I do look forward to all the KOs when they come.
@@aarondetmer946 Did you get their Dinobo? I got mine way later than others and I have little to no issues with mine. Thanks
@@tydiriumhanger1320 yah, I got IT02 mp dinobot. I'm not saying it's horrible, but compared to their IT01 mp megs, it's not as good. Having to manually sand the sword peg down so it can fit in the hand, and poor tolerances that the torso compartment doesnt close all the way. Of, and in dino mode the tolerances for the belly panel are off because it keeps popping out of its friction hold.
I still say that they (KuBianBao) need to do a MP44V. Voyager sized and at a much lower price point? Win-win.
Yes I would buy that! Thanks
@@tydiriumhanger1320 After all, KuBianBao straight killed it with MP10V. The only sacrifices that had to be made were the loss of the folding mirrors (no big deal), the loss of the lock/release mechanism in the legs for going to & from truck mode (odd, but no big deal, I didn't see why it was a thing on the regular MP10), and the loss of the slider mechanism in the feet for truck mode (again, really odd but no big deal, idk why that was a thing on the regular MP10 either). Maybe if they can make a Voyager sized MP44 successfully, they'll have the know-how to go back and finish MP36V. All MP44V would lose at minimum are the electronics and the folding mirrors.
@@DragoonMS Yes an MP36V and Mp44V I am in on that!
Why did you think MP10 would be 4th on your poll?
The other three options have only been out for a year at most, a week at shortest.
I saw many collectors that I knew sell off their mp10 to get a MS or TE and I thought more collectors swapped out for other options. This poll really helped me get a true picture. Thanks
@@tydiriumhanger1320 i guess the fact that MP44 and MP10 tied in the poll reflects that.
It just seems weird to me how people swap out their collectibles.
I've never sold anything. When I buy something, it's forever.
You should treat mp44 like gx71. This is a high end figure just like soc or dx chogokin or hot toys, you can play with it, sure, just be gentle with it.
The haters, sadly, are the people who really couldn’t afford this version of optimus prime to be honest. Which is understandable due to the high price, even surpassing gx 71 (msrp price of course)
I do think there is some of that hate because they can not afford. They can praise it for what it does great and get the KO later on. Thanks
i wonder how many were/will be made? the price could skyrocket
The KO will be about $250, that is my guess.
Well there will be the first runs that have trailer and all accessories but I think a couple KOs will be barebones with no trailer and cheaper. Yes they will milk this for all they can! Thanks
A lot of people forget there is a lot of accessories with this and i am happy with that. Because i am a newbie collector and now i have all i need for optimus.
Great video btw!
Great point for newer collectors that do not have a slew of older accessories like humans. Thanks
Yeah, I think is an amazing figure forsure! Arguably the best Takara Masterpiece to date. But that price is just way overboard, imo $220 is fair.
Yes it is a great figure and yes overpriced. At the end of the day I am glad they made it and glad i bought one. Thanks
So here’s an idea for the next video discussion. How about what your/our thoughts are on who Takara will release for the MP line? I believe it will be Jazz. He was a solid G1 character that can help solidify the cast of characters we have so far. Plus, Takara can double dip with a Stepper repaint/mold. 👍🏾
That would be a great video! I may even do a poll. Thanks
I'm not really surprised by the poll results. MP10 is a great mold and for toon accuracy MP44 takes the crown. Takara wins hands down.
You know I did not even look at it like that. Takara does win hand down! Thanks
@@tydiriumhanger1320 Thank you. It's cool to have different aesthetics. I don't think MP10 is competing with MP44 which is smart on Takara's part. They are going for different looks. Like MP36 and Apollyon. TE and MS are competing with MP44 but IMO they don't look nearly as refined.
I think MP44 is probably a good toy it's just not for me. I don't like all the panel lines and gaps. TE 01 is solid all around. I bought mp 36 and sold it right away not because it was flawed but because of all the gaps and the backpack. I have the IT ko and enjoy it mostly for the English voice chip. If a ko came out with more English voice clips for MP44 I might be tempted to pick that up but that is the only reason.
Thanks for sharing you points. Which Megatron do you display if you got rid of MP36. Just curious as I have been comparing all the 3p options lately. Thanks
I display both maketoys despotron and IT megatron. I kind of troup build behind them with my optimus, TE 01 and mp10
On different shelves.
Im very happy with the sculpt of my MS Prime
It is a nice looking bot and holds down a prime slot well!
@@tydiriumhanger1320it is an amazing time where we can have so many options and different price points so many more people can get involved in the collecting
This is a $160 figure at most.
Well I do think the entire package is worth at least $250
Well yea. Half off the regular price is still good.
Not everybody who doesnt want MP44 is a "hater".
I just dont need another prime, and if I did, I would go with Magic Square.
And of course the price is ridiculous. I wouldn't pay a penny more than $280 for it.
And I'd have to really, realy want it to pay that much.
0:57 Did you just like your own post? Also like what the other people have said and I even said it as well before. People are hating on MP-44 because for an extremely expensive figure. It was riddled with QC issues. MS, TE, and MP-10 were pretty much perfect out of the box and you didn't need to modify them like they were some third party stuff.
Yes I did like it. My first poll and it did not leg me vote. I was clicking all kinds of stuff..LOL Yes the QC on this should be top notch. Like I said the couple issues I had we minor in my book. No I did not have any issues with MS or TE so good point. Thanks
@@tydiriumhanger1320 They need to do what FT does and stick a QC check sticker. Then again even with that sticker some of the FT stuff are just not that good lol and that's FT.
@@tydiriumhanger1320 Oh yeah you did say at one point that if you can think a pose it's possible with MP-44. Update video with a ton of Jojo poses. Please and Thanks.
one of the things that I don't like about mp44 is the price, and the transformation. but I do love the sculpt. I wish takara would never take notes from mp36.
Well I think after a few times of transforming it would be pretty intuitive. It is just so different. Thanks
I waited for mp44 reviews untill deciding what to get. Depsite my original hate for the mp44 and his back, I still thought he might be worth it. I have a friend who got it....and its much more loose than it should be. But the knee was busted out of the box. Even if the knee wasnt broken I still think both TE and MS are better choices. MS if you want a beefimus and TE for screen accuracy without sacrificing the back like mp44. Mp44 has a VERY ugly back and you always see it.
Well this figure is not for everyone. MS and TE are great but I feel MP44 is a bit more toon when comparing all from the front. I have all the other versions but this figure make me want to keep putting it in dynamic poses and that has not happened with any other MP figure.
I did repose MMC Mirage a lot but that was because I was not satisfied with any pose for him.
No hate here! I have two and love them both 😄 I also have the other 3 options on my shelves too and I’m keeping them all.
Lots of love for Prime over there! Thanks
EVERYONE .... Complaining about this figure is insanely rediculous... He has BOTH Japanese anime voice n MR. PETER CULLEN... MP -44 is King!!
100 bucks over priced but hey 🤷♂️.. it is what it is!!! PERFECTION!!!
Yes it is great and the complainers do not want to pay for the perfection. Thanks
MP44 looks awesome but the retail price is ridiculous especially compared to MP36 which also has electronics and a ton of accessories and is $220 cheaper than the new optimus prime. I seriously don't know what takara was thinking when they priced MP44. I just when they decide to make the nemesis prime version that they ditch the electronics and whatever accessories it has it will come in at a cheaper price
I would like to see an MP-44+ G1 Optimus Prime where the figure's paint scheme is accurate to the '80's G1 Optimus Prime toy.
After 4 years you got your wish lol
I want MP-44, but I think I got to wait until they sort out the issues on a later run... I'm not interested in bent ears, broken, knees, and bad paint. I'm okay with price tag if the QC is deserving of it.
Yes there are issues but not all issues are hitting all the figures. Yes we do need better QC just like the BW MEGS! Thanks
I can afford it and still wont buy it. The Knee thing happened to quite a few people who barely even applied any force to the joint. At some point Takara has to take the blame for over- engineering this figure. Yes paint wears out, especially in Transforming toys, but to have paint and QC issues, right out of the box on a toy north of $400 US is ridiculous. I for one would like to thank Tydirium Hanger and all the others who have reviewed this figure. Thanks to them I will be quite content with my TE OP Leader ( I never really cared about the Trailer or Roller) and my $400 Plus dollars in my pocket. Just Sayin...✌
That is a great way to go. I remember in 2013 when the TRU mp-10 came out there were no options and collectors paid up to $350 to get one. These days we have great options unlike the past. Thanks
1.5% defect rate, 90% don't get opened or transformed, 8.5% just don't mention problems.
LOL that is a way to look at it. Thanks
BACKPACK. I HATE THAT.
Element op leader cel shaded is more accurate
I love the fact that you were brutally honest with it not being worth 450. I think most youtubers would have said something like "well you know it depends...." No doubt mp44 is the best prime out there but at 450 it shouldnt have those qc issues.
Even though I feel that what I paid was still too much I do appreciate that did a lot of new things with this release! Thanks
I find MP-44’s proportions bizarre tbh, he’s like a skinny anime girl... he looks really girly
Not with that price point they're not in to win im my opinion...I can't see paying that price point for that little an action figure my Devastator is more bot with less the price
Yes that is a steep price. They have to make their money before the KOS hit..LOL Thanks
I don't hate this figure because of the price, I hate it because it looks like a panelly/gappy mess in both modes, not to mention TT's obsession with HUUUUGE backpacks. It's just happens to be even more unforgivable once you factor that price in. All the QC issues I'm starting to hear about make it even more egregious. And I really can't take that poll seriously. TF collectors are notorious for defending expensive choices even if they are inferior...I want to see reviews of this guy from somebody who is borrowing it or on loan, not who paid out of pocket.
TMReviews was a pretty good objective review.
@@darkj82 Just watched it...was rolling my eyes through it because it sounded like he was giving everything bad a pass, but then he completely shocked me at the end. His final thoughts on it were pretty brutal.
@@darkj82 He is a good dude and was very honest.
Yes I do agree that everyone tends to defend their purchase. I do like this one better than the other 3 that I bought. I wish I got it cheaper though. Thanks
it should be at less than 170 usd. this figure has many defects don't buy this broken junk.
Well I think the few that have had real issues get the most attention. I am pleased with mine for sure! It is far from Junk. Thanks
My MP-44 has no problems except the S1 head has crap under the paint on the face mask. I just stare at him in awe
Yes he is impressive especially if you get him in a great pose! Thanks
Now that I've seen reviews and transformation of MP44. I can say that the backpack doesn't bother me as much as it did in pictures. Unfortunately the transformation doesn't seem fun at all and it seems very loose in the videos I've seen. that truck bed really does bother me. I understand that they are ment to be looked at from the front but man it feels lazy after seeing the 2 third parties. looking clean in both bot and truck. I really do want the accessories for MP44, I wish I could buy just those accessories separately.
btw, status of Unicron at haslab doesn't seem to have gone up at all since the 31st. not gonna lie it has me worried.
Edit: can you confirm if the trailer will fit with transform element's hitch?
You know an interesting comparison to mp 34 could be made with mp 44 in terms of articulation
That may be true. I really need to spend more time with that figure! Thanks
I've seen videos with this guy was shaking his mp 44, handling it very roughly, shaking it it and everything. I was like come on son, what are you doing?
I think I saw that same video and felt the same way! Thanks
Also no one really speaks about rage formers when some knuckle head gets ticked off and frusterated and transforms their figure in rage and damages the fig...bobby skull face rageformed power baser,kronos,ollie
That is interesting that you bring up that point. I can see someone getting upset with this figure and it needs some finesse! Thanks
MP 36 I remember being 200 max
( just like Dinobot )
MP 44 is 450 ( 600 depending on where are you buying him ) as well as having a nightmare of a transformation ( the legs specially, I bet those things would be the first to break )
People mostly hate on MP 44 because of most of its unnecesary complexity, why the legs are done that way?!!!
Yes it is complex and it is expensive. There may be a link between those 2 points. Thanks