The Yamaha EAD10 Overview - Drumeo
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- Опубликовано: 1 авг 2024
- The Yamaha EAD10 (which stands for electronic-acoustic drums) is a unique new device that allows you to easily record your entire drum kit with only this one piece of hardware. When we heard about this product we had to get our hands on it to test it out. It just so happened that Josh Dion of Paris Monster was visiting Drumeo when it arrived so who better to help us give it a test drive!
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We just gonna ignore how he did a full stick flip from a rock beat into a straight-ahead jazz lick at an entirely different tempo all Mr. Bungle-style at 4:00?
I have just bought one, this is outstanding. Live gigs are a breeze from them just being mics to making you're drums sound amazing, well done Yamaha.
It’s good for live performances?
Also for shows
I’m not getting it. Do you run the EAD10 through an amp/ PA. System? How would I use this to record videos in my drum shed? Could you help?
@@scottculver5728 You have two triggers which trigger the kick and the snare, all other things are recorded by the built-in microphone. The drum module itself has a stereo output that you can connect to your PA/mixer/audio interface to record a stereo mix of the drums, if I'm getting that correctly
It would be interesting to hear this combined with the studio microphones.
Feels like reverse edruns: you get the feel of an acoustic kit, but then can have all these crazy sounds.
with that gated reverb sound he should have done In the air tonight!
mikosoft Not enough toms.
I play cover tunes in a bar band and this is a one trick pony for setup and teardown. While most of the reviews detail the drum sounds nobody is going to use, the basic kit with some reverb works well for my use. Hook it to a PA channel, add your eq, and your done.
Yes dude because I had that same question. I've seen other Instagram drummers use this and they said they added some other EQ and done. Because to be honest that didn't sound the way those insta drummer were playing. They had their snare poppin and everything more crisp and tight which is what I want. But do I have to pay more for this PA channel?
I’ve heard this thing is difficult to use live due to the mic bleed
I tried it a few gigs but I just couldn’t get my kick thumpy enough with it. Even w/ our subs and lots of bottom. I had to use a separate kick mic. Also I tried to trigger percussion w/ it off a dtx pad but there wasn’t enough gain to really hear it. For monitoring it’s awesome. But for live I found my own mics worked better.
super late to the game here. but wow what a trip. I dont mess with electronics but the swing of todays industry is leaning into it more and more. and this little gadget still resonates! I'm getting one for sure. thanks for the video. cheers
Thanks for such a comprehensive review. I just purchased one myself and will have it in a few days. What a great way to practice and review your own session, not to mention playing to other tracks. Just downloaded my rec n play app as well...thanks again!
I have this module and I think its great for practicing. Still learning how to use Rec'NShare but the sound quality and versatility is excellent for the price point.
Cool for live playing! Then I went back to edit my comment when it got to the app portion! Super cool app! This thing is like one of the best practice tools ever!
Great piece of kit I have one on the way
Why have I only seen this now? Crazy... I have never come across it. Darrrrrnn What an excellent gadget!
Great demo, nice one guys.
Great sound !
Cool Idea, but only the bassdrum sounds really weird to me....
Ja Guitar part of it has to do with the fact that it doesn't pick up the impact so to speak but the overall sound of the drum. The other part is this guy doesn't muffle his bass drum very much
Agree. The sound is totally diferent from the one with mics.
shame to death to compare
the EAD has a trigger on the bass drum so it makes that noise every time because he selected it on the module, he could change the sound of it if he wanted to, but for some reason he went with the fart bass drum sound
I actually thought even the studio mic bass sound was a bit weird. I guess it's just how he tunes/muffles his bass drum
I think it's a pretty impressive device.
So rad. All-in-one device.
I use it for practice with drum less tracks. Also try it for some gigs with drum set and cajon. On this video not edited mix trigger/ mics levels.. when you start spend time with it- you can get sound mutch better
So a module to trigger bass, options to trigger snare and toms seperate while putting whatever effects over what the mic is picking up. Sounds good for a drummer that needs better audio for youtube, while having nice sounds to practice to, and ease of tracking to project sent from other musicians ( via drop box and the app). Maybe its not for you, but i want it. Inspiration, triggers, uploads.
alan williams it’s also great in a live setting! I’ve used this since it came out in November and no longer need to use overheads or have to mic every drum! I set this up, mic the kick and I’m good to go!!! This thing is absolutely amazing!
I really like this
Wow. Just wow
Drummer is on another planet lol.
Nice!
I run the drum section of a local music store. The rep pitched it to me today and I tried it out. It does have some cool features but I am thinking I'm more likely to get stuck with it for awhile. What do you think, should I buy in?
Awesome.
I need one of these for my Yamaha stage custom.
That us exactly the kind of drum set I have and I also have the Ead10 you should definetly get it is is all it says it is.
hi,
what is the proper usb card to use?
everything sounds like one overhead mic. which is fine, but the kick sounds shit
I feel the same. Beater sounds pretty good, snare sounds good as well. Think with a decent kick mic run with it this would be quite the tool
I see a lot of negative Nancy’s commenting here! This is an awesome device and is definitely worth looking into. I don’t feel this video is a very good representation of what this module can do? People saying the sound isn’t that great? Well, he only went through about maybe 10 of the 50 pre-set kits. Plus you can build your own kits, have yore own effects, etc. the unit is totally customizable. Plus, there’s about 700+ percussion and effects sounds built in, or you can download your own, or run your software from a laptop through it! Plus it has more inputs for triggers, pads, and foot switches. You can use it for recording or practice. And works great in a live setting. I’ve been using it for about 3 months and have gotten nothing but compliments on the way the kit sounds. I use the sensor unit to pick up the kit, just like overheads, and put a mic on the kick and I’m ready to go. The soundman doesn’t have to do a thing! This thing is way more capable of other things then what they show you in this, or many of the other videos on RUclips.
drumfanatik316 in live perform, hows the output works?? connect with a cabinet?
@@husnulmaarief5116 2 cables Jack to xlr output straight to the mix desk
80\20 drummer has a great review of the device.
I expected the bass drum to sound the best because it was sampling/triggering it. It's a pretty neat idea actually. I don't think I'd buy one because a Zoom is sufficient
What’s that
cool stuff
How many inches is the trigger? I have a cowbell over my bass drum hoop on the batter side setup just like Dave Weckl. Because you said it picks up your whole kit from a 4 ft radius, could the EAD10 be mounted on the reso side bass drum hoop at 12 o clock? Also what would happen if you hook the EAD10 up at 1 o clock or 5 o clock whether on the batter or reso side? Would you still get the same result as the EAD10 at 12 o clock batter side?
That’s cool
this drummer... LMFAO
lol yeah man, Paris Monster... Check em out dudes a freak of talent
Never talked with headphones on before?
I understand how it works but if you were using this device and shooting an instructional video where you play stop and talk how or can you set up mic for speaking as well? If not how are you running your speaking mic’s?
Hi, will it work with edrums and original modul switched off?
Hi guys, I have a question how it looks with the compatibility to other microphones and a sound system with this device? I am worried that there will be feedback on the sound system and that other instruments such as a bass or a guitar might cause noise. how do you see it? would be pleased about a feedback.
Ivo Hollenstein I’ve been using this for about 3 months now and can tell you, there are no issues with the Mics picking up the bass or guitars. This thing is great in a live setting, and the videos don’t really show everything that this unit is capable of!
okey nice thank you for the answer
Can it still be used in mix with the on kit mics and is there a demo of this?
can this be hooked up directly to an audio interface through an instrument cable to an interface?
I’d be very interested to see what the live application is like for this device
Dallas Farmer I’ve heard it has some feedback issues due to how sensitive the mic is. Don’t take my word for it, but it’s very possible seeing as how it gets a wide picture of the set from just one mic.
theethanatorem there’s actually two condenser Mics inside the unit and you can adjust the gain. I’ve been using this live for the past 3 months and have had no issues. It’s great in a live setting. Very easy to use and set up! I don’t think the videos they show are a very good representation of this product? Plus there’s just not enough time to show all the capabilities!
You can adjust the mic setting to compensate for this.
It seems a bit limited from what the video displays. From a professional perspective I can't see a reliable or consistent use for it, but I think it would be really helpful for making covers quickly, practising with different samples, and might save you some money on investing in microphones and interface... Definently not a substitute though.
Is anybody having issues with the rec and share app? If so what are you using as plan b?
Hipster level 9000. Not terrible for one mic. Pretty versatile device.
how is the output work??
Do have to put the device on the batter loop? Or can it go on the other side . My Tom Toms sit low and I am really considering this for my first mic set up for recording! That’s like the only thing holding me back.
That’s crazy
Does that play along feature work with protected songs, eg., songs that you get from Apple Music? I have a cool app (Anytune) that slows down music but it won’t work with those Apple Music songs in my library- I have to go download the songs and that’s a pain. Pls let me know..
I've been using the Yamaha's EAD 10 module in our band to get the drums' signal and send it to to our mixing console so that it can play it through the PA speakers in our setting. Soon, our sound mixing guy tells me that all the sound that is sent to the module into the auxiliary input from the the mixing console is passing by and being sent back to the mixing console together with the drums' signal from the output of the module. So for example, instead of just receiving the drums' sound in the mixing console from the module all the other instruments are being sent as well. Is it normal for this to happen? The sound mixing guy is asking me to configure so that just the drums' signal is sent to the mixing console through its output. Bur for some reason the signal that I receive to monitor and play on top of it is sent together with the drums' signal. Is this normal to happen? Is this a default setting from the factory? I've tried to look at the manuals but couldn't find anything regarding this matter.
Would greatly appreciate any help! Thank you!
Try shielding your kit.
That’s cuz this mic picks up any sound from any instruments around you Man.
Check the review of this mic from Sweetwater they don’t recommend it for live sessions just for solo ones :)
Hope this helps
It shouldn't be used in a live band setting unless everyone else is using silent gear with headphones
I have a question! I’d really like to know if it’s possible to just hear your kit through the mic without any effects. Just the natural sound from the drums
Yeah, you don't have to use any effects. You can just use it as a microphone.
great question
EAD10 has an echo sound vs the 10K Mics... not bad for the price!
Hi, kindly share me the recording app name..
Would the Rec n Share app work for my Alesis Strike Kit???
What happens if I use L80’s and remo silentstrokes???
Does it record in stereo?
Are there other products that are similar to this but cheaper??
da drummer is so trippy dope
Anyone know the model of that snare? Been looking for a good shallow snare and I like Yam snares.
Can you adjust effects on each drum or can you level the effects on each instrument
NO ! another one who not listening people talking...
Bob Ayers oh man isn’t that just the worst I’m so sorry for you
Does anyone know how to send a recorded video from rec n share app to instagram? When I hit the send > button in the app it doesn’t give me any options on where to send??? Thanks!
Cool app
Having an issue where my iPhone (Rec share app) doesn’t recognize the ead when I plug into it, anyone else?
4:01 ayy
This would be a great solution for IEM rigs.
Cna you use it on a mesh kit?
it wouldn't be the best option. You would have to buy all of the additional triggers because it uses a condenser mic to pick up everything except the bass drum. You could buy a different product to do that.
4:24 just in case you missed the "oof"
Chasing the dragon here, has anyone used this to record through a daw like logic good experience/bad let me know ?
That's a lot of stuff for the price.
Great review! I am considering an EAD10 and have 2 questions and was wondering if you have an idea about them:
1. Can you use different samples for different velocities? I have some That Sound samples and they have 5 different velocity samples per snare. Is it possible to load them in so that they trigger accordingly to how hard you hit the snare?
2. Is is possible to set up the EAD10 in a way that you only get the sampled kick and snare (so I could use them and add other mics too it) and you can seperate them in the outputs?
Would be awesome if someone knew!
It’s not possible.
The mic picks up any sound around you. That’s why they don’t recommend it to live sessions.
Seems to work like overhead mics but w some effects & sampling. Thinking it is a great live application, great for social media drummers to have a quick set up, and for demos or quick recordings. If I were to take this product to the next level, I would probably want to figure out a way to mic the kick drum a little bit better.
whats that hi hat and crash???
Can you use the EAD 10 with low volume drum heads as well?
I also want to know. I'm thinking of getting RTOMs and L80s for my kit to play without disturbing the neighbours too much, but would ideally like to also be able to record drums for my own project, maybe get into doing sessions for people etc.. Wondering if this would be a better and cheaper option than buying a trigger module and additional triggers or even buying a multi channel interface, micing it all up and then messing about with the eq and everything of each mic in a DAW.
@@millerhxc Yes! You absolutely can. All volume levels are adjustable and the mics will pick up even the lowest of low volume kits.
Can you record the song and the drum recording into a DAW?
hi, can I use this module with mesh heads e low volume cymbals?
interesting question
I also want to know.
Interesting system. I would need Android compatibility before I could make full use of it though.
it's out now!
i need that mic.. and that gorgeous hair
Is it 100% trigger?
who is the drummer?
My phone has no ⅛ " jack. It's a Samsung Note. I need Bluetooth. Is that possible?
It just seems to pick up the kick and snare well and the toms get left behind : / can’t beat just setting the whole kit up in my opinion
really cool mic system but sadly they didnt showed the record without the wierd effect
not terrible but you need to muffle the BD a slight bit more,too much resonant imo. Nice though!!
why is there a 2 mics at front of the kick drum ??? 1.55 min in lol
What kind of cymbals he have there?
Meinls
Meinl Benny Greb sand crashes.
What is that app..??? Name.
Leerey Lem it’s an app provided for the ead by Yamaha
Rec n share
Not to sound like a bad person but how come you say there is no other mics but then when the overhead camera goes on you see mics in front of the bass drum
😂😂😂
one dude wearing a t-shirt the other a jacket and some sort of scarf thing. I'm confused.
And what if there is other musicians in the room ??
Wow, I'm way behind in all the tools everyone is using for "Uploading" quality sound in covers.
A lot of legends and teachers are using this for lessons especially. Just bought one with added trigger for 10pc. All ya "Haters" need to refrain from commenting if you have nothing nice to say. "Sound" is always an individual preference. This device is to help get "your" sound heard without going in $2-3,000 for studio recording. Some of just want to play and enjoy sharing what we play.
I would sure hope a set of 10K mics sound better than something that costs 500 bucks. Hey, for 549 now you get the snare trigger with it.
When the mics were compared, the settings of the module were not on normal (Arena). Not a super good comparison.
Why so much reverb??
Anyone know if this device would pick up a kit using mesh heads and low volume cymbals? ... Just thinking of interesting practice setups that don't involve an electric rubber kit
That is precisely why I purchased this device. I have a new 2 month old baby at home and since I've recently moved my e-kit (15YO Roland) to a band mates house for practices there, I've equipped my acoustic kit in the basement with mesh heads (RTOM), bass pad (Aquarian) and low volume cymbals (Zildjian L80) to continue practicing at home. I wanted the ability to practice on my acoustic kit with IEMs and hear myself without waking/disturbing my wife & 2 mo old baby upstairs. Mesh heads, Low Volume cymbals and this device have enabled me to do so (whenever I have the available time that is..) The sound quality with this setup is obviously not meant to be studio recording quality, but it allows me to continue practicing on my acoustic kit and hear all of its components clearly and with added options.
Also, I can't speak for everyone, but I MUCH prefer practicing on my acoustic kit to the rubber e-kit for MANY reasons and this device makes that possible without much in the way of setup.
Would I use this to track actual drum parts for our band scratch tracks? Probably not, as I already have a nice interface with decent/inexpensive mics for that purpose. The EAD10 for me serves its purpose (and then some with the addition of the Rec'n'Share app features) and is a means to an end for me so I would highly recommend it for that purpose if not much else. Also, the "scenes" have some entertaining sounds which provide a bit of fun play-along motivation for beats/licks you may otherwise not explore very often.
Hope thats helpful and happy drumming!
Thanks Marcelo for the reply - I'm in nearly the same boat! I have a 0 month old due next month. I also have a roland td4 that has served me well, but I am tired of the 'electric kit feel' and could really just use a refresh regarding my practice setup. i also have an acoustic kit, but that will be of course out of the question soon. I'm stoked to find someone else trying this.
so, i couldn't tell by your response if you have actually implemented your said setup, or if you are planning to? let me know if you already have it working. my concern is that the ead10 might not pick up the mesh heads (or rtoms) and low volume cymbals adequately. so, until i know it works, i'm hesitant to move forward...
Sure thing Kurt. Congrats on your little one.
I have been using it for the past month or so and can report that it is able to pick up the entire kit w/ mesh heads, however my aquarian bass drum pad does prevent the kick trigger from functioning properly, aside from that all good. Cheers!
Thanks for the reply Marcelo - it's comforting to know it will work. I wonder if you had a mesh head or rtom on the kick drum, if you'd get better results...? Either way, I think I'm going to try and sell my roland td4 and pick up this cool new toy - appreciate you sharing your experiment.
2:06 Dave was like: "you sure you play drums?"
👍👍👍👍👍👍
Every time they mention the"phone app" they should tell you you'll spend $40-$50 on cable adapters!
Garry Raines its via usb so no
UBS 2.0 B to Lightning for me. Do you have lots of those lying around.
Oh yeah, another thing. Roland snare triggers don't work with it either.
@@garryraines2028 Yeah, I do
It's crazy how some people get gigs.
What happens if you play two bass drums?!
JP sounds great just tryed it
"uh...we dont do that here." jk its proably fine to play 2 base drums with the ead 10
Is that JD becks dad?
I downloaded rec n share app, downloaded some songs from apple music and the app keeps telling me „This data cannot be selected” under each song. Any idea whats going on ? Dope video tho !
This drummer is weird. I dont understand his groove. Not a good example of grooves for yamaha. Im not sure what genre his playing mix of soft and strong.
Interesting idea however I’m really not impressed with the sound. Try an SM57 in a similar position - the results are much better.