Instant results with every video that I watch. I still have a long ways to go before I would consider myself a decent drummer, but these tutorials have been the most helpful. Thanks!
Beautiful. The Moeller Book is (IMO) an essential addition to any drummer’s library. What seems so easy really isn’t when you try to adapt it to your kit. Great stuff here Sir!
Wrist snap technique is how it all comes together. Anyone notice how his speech became rhythmic while he was playing? Great vid. I'll be bringing this up with my students. Thanks, Bruce!
I had a lesson with a teacher in person today and we worked on the Moeller method, and he pointed me (back) to this very video! But yeah, it’s good to have someone who can give you feedback and give you personalised teaching…
Great video, I've just started playing. It appears I have been trying to do this the hard way. I let it bounce more or less properly when I'm playing fast, but just play harder when I'm slower to get the same effect. Instead of letting the stick bounce I'm doing all the work. Can't wait to try this on my drums. Thanks.
Even though I am a wooden kick beater, half-time hi-hat, tom-thumping, rim-shot neanderthal, this is good stuff. When I practice something like this and it starts to make me feel nauseous, I know I am making progress and it will definitely help me with my ghost notes and perhaps that very occasional dazzling jazzy fill I like to throw in, both of which most people seem to ignore anyway. I guess I will need to set up a bucket next to my snare drum. Thank you!
I would usually skip the intro and get straight to the main thing but the way he explained it just got my attention! Nice! I like how relax your arm. My arm is in so much stress after playing. will try this later. - I'm new in playing drums but been my dream for so long.
Damn, after three years of playing I'm just learning of this? lol... This is awesome... Just what I need to take my technique to levels unknown... Bruce is a GREAT teacher...
I find this man's voice and subsequent vocal delivery exceptionally soothing. And Steve Jobs? Nah dude, clearly we should be honored to receive grip technique from the former captain of the Federation flagship U.S.S. enterprise, Captain Jean Luc Picard (aka bearded Patrick Stewart). My technique is what's gonna live long and prosper after this advice.
Apparently I have Jim Chapins old leather stick bag. When I was told that's who it belonged to, it meant nothing to me at the time. Now I think it's pretty neat.
Great vid. The most important lesson here is that he didn’t touch that drum kit once. So many beginners start by diving into the deep-end behind a kit. Start with the basics and learn proper stick technique before trying to boil the ocean.
Awesome this is where I’ve been going wrong. Thanks for the clear understanding. I know my playing will improve with this technique in my practice. Thank you for posting
I played along with you and practicing the quarter notes made me notice the difference on the upstoke and gave me a better feel for the Moeller technique altogether.
Beautiful explanation and example! Very beneficial method! Takes a while to get down but go slow and burn it in and you'll really recognize the difference in efficiency, power, speed and control!
I've always thought that the upstroke was caused by the downward stroke (rebounding of the stick striking the pad.) This explanation/video shows that I've had it backwards which is why I never spent much time on it. At least the videos I've watched in the past explained it that way. Basically that you start with the hand/stick striking down first causing the rebound to "lift" the stick and repeat. Of course, I could just be an idiot and interpreted it way wrong. This is great! Thank you for posting, I think I might have actually learned this FINALLY!!
As you went through your 'upper body anatomy checklist', I think I may have finally discovered why I'm having difficulties with drumming... I don't appear to have these things you referred to as "elbows". I just have one 3.5 foot long bone between my shoulders and hands, with none of those so-called "hinges" in between! Lol. Just kidding. Seriously though, not having elbows would actually give me a more justifiable excuse for not getting my bounces down with consistency and timing....
I love you elaborating on the history of the technique you just shared. I'm very new to drumming, or rather not new, but unexperienced sofar. And I am am certain this will be more than helpful and guiding in my renewed aquaintance
Certainly an informative vid and quite applicable if you're drumming on a single surface, i.e. rudimental or concert snare dtumming. However, the technique doesn't work once you start moving around the kit. Leigh Howard Stevens's Method of Movement (actually written for marimba but is so well adapted to drum set), is a much better adapted technique for motion and movement around the drum kit. Moeller has its place but has its limits as well.
during his 16th note at 60 bpm example, it doesnt appear feasible to even out the dynamics of the three hits following his initial strike. I am very new to drumming and have been practicing double strokes with rebound. I am learning that to have even volume on the rebound stroke of the double, you snap the stick back down with your fingers. So, Is even volume 16ths possible with this technique? or can it only be accented? does anyone know? Cheers everyone!
First of all, loved the video and explanation of Moeller. Thanks for the information! I had a question though about the grip. Is there a difference in control by having the pivotal rotation at the middle finger vs. the pointer finger? My lesson teacher in college always had me use the pointer for the rotation point and I've been playing that way ever since. I studied more of a classical route, so would Moeller be applied more for a drum set grip these days, or did I just learn a different approach? Thanks in advance for the input!
If you don't have the proper technique you can end up damaging yourself- then you won't be able to 'enjoy' anything because you won't be able to play! Sure everyone's body is different, but there are certain things which do apply to us all, so please don't start trying to diss educational clips like the above- whether you like it or not this man has more knowledge than most of us. Plus, if you weren't curious at all- why were you watching it in the first place?
Thanks. Very clear teached. Trying to get comfortable with such a loose grip ! Playing the sixteenth's , i think the 3rd is a rebound , which leads to the upstroke before repeat ...
My first instructor wanted me to bounce my sticks. My current instructor does not want to see a bounce when the sticks make contact with the head. He is all for the shoulder and elbow movement, but not the wrists.
Excellent explanation and demonstration. It already makes sense to me, but it will take some time for me to get this into my muscle memory. Don’t agree that you decided to never show the left hand though, or both at once. It would not have added much time.
QUESTION: do you have to use a real practice pad, or is a mouse pad on a piece of plywood be ok, or is that bad for a beginner's technique??? Or does it matter at all?
Becker's a great technician but if anybody else is falling asleep to this, go look at Tommy Igoe's lessons. He's a better teacher for more active (read: ADHD) learners 😅 Re: Moeller - "Everybody knows what a whip is."
Many including myself defaulted to Moeller method by nature. Soon after 32,s one must kinda flick wrist, articulating point turns into extra hit. It's what happens by naturally speeding up. Control gets little lost. And try taking the band out by using forfingwt
Is this applicable to every genre of music for instance playing hard rock music it seems that technique comes natural although I'm using my thumb on the right hand to get power on the stroke drama the technique appears to be basically the same with all due respect. Thank you for your videos.
More important than this technique will be the decision and or preference to be a light or heavy hitter on the kit, that will then determine more or less your technique path.
The most important drum technique throwing and catching the sticks
😂😂😂
Finally, a true professional's input
My most important drum technique is getting out of my own way. If you know what I mean?
MemyselfandI You mean if YOU know what I mean. .Know what I mean? ;)
@@NotTheBot Ya dig?
5:52 the way he talk on the tempo😅😅 so dope!
You can dance to what he is saying, lol
@@gabriellopes195 Needs to be sampled
LOL YES
dude it's the only way :)
He is not a dope .
5:47 to 5:57
Again... notice... how loose... and bouncy... i get-that-initial-strike
it sticked in my mind for days
it STICKED in your mind LOL
@@cheesypizzajokes You know what Cheesy pizza means
Ross Gedye finish the thought/joke! Lol
We need some kind of techno sound with that ! Someone do it :D
oh no
Instant results with every video that I watch. I still have a long ways to go before I would consider myself a decent drummer, but these tutorials have been the most helpful. Thanks!
What about now?
How come instant man? I feel like I have 2 left hands...literally can't do it!🤣
Yeah. How is your drumming now?
Beautiful. The Moeller Book is (IMO) an essential addition to any drummer’s library. What seems so easy really isn’t when you try to adapt it to your kit.
Great stuff here Sir!
Chapin Book?
5:50 i love how he talks with the tempo
Why? It's more difficult to speak in contrary rhythms.
Check our Bernard Purdie!
Not only a tutorial, but a history class, thank you really!
I had one lesson with this cat. He's got it together and changed my playing a lot. Thanks Bruce!
Wrist snap technique is how it all comes together. Anyone notice how his speech became rhythmic while he was playing?
Great vid. I'll be bringing this up with my students. Thanks, Bruce!
Christopher Gillman, as well as hand wrist technique & bounce/rebound cntrl 😃
I’m learning from a guy who was taught the method by Jim Chapin
ye
I sound out the drums in my head when I play ,Boom,crash,tap,tap,tap ,swish,boom,rat tat tat ,shuffle.
I've been playing for years and I was never able to grasp this technique until now. Amazing video
My great great grandfather was a 13 year old drummer boy in the War of 1812 @ the Battle of New Orleans.
This is one lesson that I would really like an in-person teacher for.
I'm starting to see how important an in person teacher can be. I need feedback on what I'm doing and youtube can't give me that.
I had a lesson with a teacher in person today and we worked on the Moeller method, and he pointed me (back) to this very video! But yeah, it’s good to have someone who can give you feedback and give you personalised teaching…
Great video, I've just started playing. It appears I have been trying to do this the hard way. I let it bounce more or less properly when I'm playing fast, but just play harder when I'm slower to get the same effect. Instead of letting the stick bounce I'm doing all the work. Can't wait to try this on my drums. Thanks.
Even though I am a wooden kick beater, half-time hi-hat, tom-thumping, rim-shot neanderthal, this is good stuff. When I practice something like this and it starts to make me feel nauseous, I know I am making progress and it will definitely help me with my ghost notes and perhaps that very occasional dazzling jazzy fill I like to throw in, both of which most people seem to ignore anyway. I guess I will need to set up a bucket next to my snare drum. Thank you!
As a side benefit, good technique lubricates the eyes. That’s why he doesn’t need to blink.
Bruce is one of the few drummers who, in explanation, uses literate literacy.
Thank you for the useful and beautiful video.
I would usually skip the intro and get straight to the main thing but the way he explained it just got my attention! Nice!
I like how relax your arm. My arm is in so much stress after playing. will try this later. - I'm new in playing drums but been my dream for so long.
Someone please make a remix of 5:52
Someone did:
www.sunsetrepublicstudios.com/music
Which remix is it?
Damn, after three years of playing I'm just learning of this? lol... This is awesome... Just what I need to take my technique to levels unknown... Bruce is a GREAT teacher...
I find this man's voice and subsequent vocal delivery exceptionally soothing.
And Steve Jobs? Nah dude, clearly we should be honored to receive grip technique from the former captain of the Federation flagship U.S.S. enterprise, Captain Jean Luc Picard (aka bearded Patrick Stewart). My technique is what's gonna live long and prosper after this advice.
Apparently I have Jim Chapins old leather stick bag.
When I was told that's who it belonged to, it meant nothing to me at the time.
Now I think it's pretty neat.
Woww
Great vid. The most important lesson here is that he didn’t touch that drum kit once. So many beginners start by diving into the deep-end behind a kit. Start with the basics and learn proper stick technique before trying to boil the ocean.
Awesome this is where I’ve been going wrong. Thanks for the clear understanding. I know my playing will improve with this technique in my practice. Thank you for posting
I love you guys, but man you have been trailing this course! But Bruce is a total genius and I will be getting involved in the course
I played along with you and practicing the quarter notes made me notice the difference on the upstoke and gave me a better feel for the Moeller technique altogether.
Simple yet brilliant. A lightbulb went on. There are many teachers .this man is an educator ,many thanks .
Great lesson ! I'm a beginner and I struggled with that hand motion, but this video really unlocked it for me, thanks !
Beautiful explanation and example! Very beneficial method! Takes a while to get down but go slow and burn it in and you'll really recognize the difference in efficiency, power, speed and control!
Didn't know Steve Jobs was able to play drums.
Funny? Stupid...
He's not even wearing a turtleneck. I don't see the connection.
Hahahahahhahahaha
Steve Jobs? Who the hell is that?
sounds liek a similar moron, is this drumming for apple idiots?
Finally a drumeo free lesson on the moeller stroke. Awesome .😎
Sure will check it, man. I actually follow Jojo Mayer, his way of teaching technique appeals to me the best.
This is the drummer's equivalent of a golf swing lesson.
It's all in the hips.
Count up to 8 times remeber to practice this ourselves on drum and practice makes perfect to implanting to play a instrument.
Rolling shutters and drumsticks is so funny. It's like watching someone play with slightly cooked pasta. Great video and thanks for your time.
I've always thought that the upstroke was caused by the downward stroke (rebounding of the stick striking the pad.) This explanation/video shows that I've had it backwards which is why I never spent much time on it. At least the videos I've watched in the past explained it that way. Basically that you start with the hand/stick striking down first causing the rebound to "lift" the stick and repeat. Of course, I could just be an idiot and interpreted it way wrong. This is great! Thank you for posting, I think I might have actually learned this FINALLY!!
As you went through your 'upper body anatomy checklist', I think I may have finally discovered why I'm having difficulties with drumming... I don't appear to have these things you referred to as "elbows". I just have one 3.5 foot long bone between my shoulders and hands, with none of those so-called "hinges" in between! Lol. Just kidding.
Seriously though, not having elbows would actually give me a more justifiable excuse for not getting my bounces down with consistency and timing....
What about the left hand? How to make a single stroke roll out of this? That's what I wanted to see.
Great videos from this channel. Short and focused and useful; the way it should be.
I'm not a drummer but I have rammed in quite a few tracks. Wish I'd seen this years ago, if only to understand the dynamics of drumming better.
So simple yet so valuable. Thank you for sharing this video
perhaps the best demonstration of moeller i've seen - thanks.
The second most important thing is to have a hand selected Steve Jobs wardrobe. Don't shortchange me Drumeo
I love you elaborating on the history of the technique you just shared. I'm very new to drumming, or rather not new, but unexperienced sofar. And I am am certain this will be more than helpful and guiding in my renewed aquaintance
Hi coach...
Great work,quality teaching,I love how you break it down.
JP.
beautiful man. beautiful lesson
Brilliant drummer, musician, and teacher.
Great lesson! You're a brilliant educator.
This guy is probably the best teacher ever
Check out the warm up Moeller Modulations that the Bluecoats use for some more examples and differentiation in use cases of this technique.
So very good to get this reminder from my very first Drum lessons. We done as always Drumeo.
What a beautiful kit.
Certainly an informative vid and quite applicable if you're drumming on a single surface, i.e. rudimental or concert snare dtumming. However, the technique doesn't work once you start moving around the kit. Leigh Howard Stevens's Method of Movement (actually written for marimba but is so well adapted to drum set), is a much better adapted technique for motion and movement around the drum kit. Moeller has its place but has its limits as well.
during his 16th note at 60 bpm example, it doesnt appear feasible to even out the dynamics of the three hits following his initial strike. I am very new to drumming and have been practicing double strokes with rebound. I am learning that to have even volume on the rebound stroke of the double, you snap the stick back down with your fingers. So, Is even volume 16ths possible with this technique? or can it only be accented? does anyone know? Cheers everyone!
That was a fantastic breakdown!!! Thanks for this!!
Awesome demo. Thanks!
I wish I’d known this when I started playing drums. But I don’t play drums so I guess I have to start now. And I do know it.
Thank you much.
Really useful and brillantly presented - Thank you!
First of all, loved the video and explanation of Moeller. Thanks for the information!
I had a question though about the grip. Is there a difference in control by having the pivotal rotation at the middle finger vs. the pointer finger? My lesson teacher in college always had me use the pointer for the rotation point and I've been playing that way ever since. I studied more of a classical route, so would Moeller be applied more for a drum set grip these days, or did I just learn a different approach? Thanks in advance for the input!
i really appreciate what a pain it must have been to talk while doing this to a metronome
Great. Not speed but basic movements to get the process flowing and start a good habit.
Priceless 🙏
the moeller, yes i teach it as well. awesome!
This is true. Try to get Bonham triplets to sound tasty without the arm movement especially on the left arm.
I will be trying this Bruce thanks!
Great way to practice the moeller technique is to learn La Grange by ZZ Top on drums (left hand shuffle)
Trucks & Guns
Yes that's very true.
Or just practice ambidextrous
I'm gonna practice it.
Listening is the most important technique.
Awesome, thank you so much
I love that DW kit
Great teaching
Nice, my we have picked up music in my home since covid and it's all percussion for the moment. Cats hate it though 😆
The most important drum lesson is figure out a way to have fun, or you won't keep playing.
Rick Sherrell so true brother!
And that’s a fact
True, and you have to figure out, what kind of "technique" is working for you
If you don't have the proper technique you can end up damaging yourself- then you won't be able to 'enjoy' anything because you won't be able to play! Sure everyone's body is different, but there are certain things which do apply to us all, so please don't start trying to diss educational clips like the above- whether you like it or not this man has more knowledge than most of us. Plus, if you weren't curious at all- why were you watching it in the first place?
@@damianbroderick3913 damaging yourself...bahaha!
This is a great tutorial!
his stare is going inside my frickin' soul
Wish you had showed us the left hand. Do we have to tilt our snare drum to play traditional grip?
Really good drum beats
Most excellent thank you
Thanks. Very clear teached. Trying to get comfortable with such a loose grip ! Playing the sixteenth's , i think the 3rd is a rebound , which leads to the upstroke before repeat ...
fantastic lesson, thank you
My first instructor wanted me to bounce my sticks. My current instructor does not want to see a bounce when the sticks make contact with the head. He is all for the shoulder and elbow movement, but not the wrists.
Excellent explanation and demonstration. It already makes sense to me, but it will take some time for me to get this into my muscle memory. Don’t agree that you decided to never show the left hand though, or both at once. It would not have added much time.
5:51 This Boi is spittin fire
Thanks Bruce!
QUESTION: do you have to use a real practice pad, or is a mouse pad on a piece of plywood be ok, or is that bad for a beginner's technique??? Or does it matter at all?
for as long as the stick can bounce off it is completly irrelevant what kind of pad you use. Just find something you can hit without destroying it.
Becker's a great technician but if anybody else is falling asleep to this, go look at Tommy Igoe's lessons. He's a better teacher for more active (read: ADHD) learners 😅
Re: Moeller - "Everybody knows what a whip is."
Many including myself defaulted to Moeller method by nature. Soon after 32,s one must kinda flick wrist, articulating point turns into extra hit. It's what happens by naturally speeding up. Control gets little lost. And try taking the band out by using forfingwt
Great Bruce - thanks!
super helpful--ty
Is this applicable to every genre of music for instance playing hard rock music it seems that technique comes natural although I'm using my thumb on the right hand to get power on the stroke drama the technique appears to be basically the same with all due respect. Thank you for your videos.
Great stuff Bruce thankyou bro
More important than this technique will be the decision and or preference to be a light or heavy hitter on the kit, that will then determine more or less your technique path.
Thank you. This is a big help.
Please show how to do a roll with it. I have yet to find a video explaining that
Thank you!!
Thank You !!
Thank you.
I see some killer blast beats.
My mind is blown away
Great stuff, going to have to work on this
Is the tap stroke just a bounce or do you use wrist movement?