Using the Linemans isn’t ideal. If your foot slips out of the loop gonna be a bad day. Just convert it for use as an additional tether to go over branches.
1) Dont side load carabiners. Use a delta link. 2) Dont use a lineman's like that. When you're on a lineman's you should be leaning back slightly and the belt should be taught, it won't work to stand up straight unless you really tighten it. Use it as a 3rd tether instead of a linesman's to leapfrog the branches. 3) Leg lock the tree with your right leg for stability as you advance the top tether. 4) Run the top foot loop on the tag end of your tether with a second prussic and ditch the double tether system. 5) Invest in presets. The only time you have to do this is the first time. SRT thereafter. 6) Maybe consider dialing in a system a little more before making an instructional. There's alot of saddle hunters doing bone headed things in the woods with no safety plan and no family with a clue where they are and we need to contribute to that as little as possible.
I like the idea of the second foot loop to help stand off from the tree. I put a quick link on my linemans and call it my second tether, pretty much just have it for passing limbs, but it feels good knowing I have a back up. I like using a linemans belt traditionally if I have steps though. If I could use spurs, I'd definietly use it in the traditional way more.
I have a stirrup to each foot on a 2TC set up, If you stiffen the tethers where they go around the tree, you'll be able to climb much faster Also, forget carabiners and quick links, and try the bypass link. Good luck!
I love this but I have a question, why not use two of the foot climbers and just walk up with that same stability even faster without having to use the aider? I love this idea
@@tylerparker3024 the real benefits of this method is it’s lighter and less bulky. Good for people who walk far in, go through thick brush, rough terrain, or rappel down the tree after hunting.
I get the idea just doesnt seem better to me personally. Looks like more energy being spent on the tree than it would take to carry sticks. Possibly more oppurtunity for injuries while youre 100 miles deep too which wouldnt be good. Idk just seems like its a little much but hey we cant all do the same things. Be safe out there ✌️
Yes, biggest risk with 2 tether climbing is if your foot slips off the trunk. It could potentially lead to you slipping out of the foot strap. That’s why I recommend not using this method with a lineman rope. The other problem is if you drop one of them, then you’re stuck. He has his rappel rope to get down, which I now use to both climb and hunt. It’s not practical when using sticks but I use wild edge steps, so they don’t interfere with a tether or rappel rope like sticks would.
@@tylerparker3024 it’s not so much about the weight of the sticks, even though that does add a little bit to it. Climbing trees in any fashion is inherently dangerous and you have to have safety precautions and be mindful of what you’re doing. That being said I’ve had slip out while I’m climbing up or climbing down in that safety packet that we get with any tree stand. It comes with a foot tether, which is what that is for. but to your point if you practice this, the energy expenditure does get less than less because you get more efficient every time you do it I’m not here to change and give it a try. See what you think.
I was looking for something exactly like this! Your 2 tether method climbing method looks the easiest I have seen. Thank you for sharing this! Could you tell me how long is the blue strap that is on your right foot on your second tether or link to what you used? Also, can you share how you attached it to the tether? Is it just girth hitched onto a prussic that is on the tether? Thanks again!
The blue strap is a pretzel climbing aider. I tied that into the second tether with a friction hitch. Look at my other shorter videos I have some close ups on the ropes themselves good luck this year!
@@ColonelTavington carabiners are designed to be strongest along their spine and little less strong pulling across the gate. It should be labeled on your carabiner. However, the way you attached your tether with a carabiner around the tree, you are side loading it in a way it’s not designed to hold. I’m not saying it’s going to snap on you, but like was previously mentioned in above comment from another person, it’s better to use a quick link or delta link. Those items are designed for side loads. Just a thought.
@@ColonelTavington if you think about a carabiner as a link in a chain, it is meant to be used like it is when taught. Cross loading is when you would be pulling against the flatter sides of the link. Side loading is what happens when you pull perpendicular to the link. ruclips.net/video/buNotkWWLHg/видео.htmlsi=APfw_7sP1pCOHYCV ruclips.net/video/Dko4zLcElPI/видео.htmlsi=vVzV1VAfQMQllHHJ
@@ColonelTavington good call. I do tree work, so we have to keep our time and energy efficiency and usually both hands available at any time. Cheers from florida!
By the time you got all those unsafe connections made, I’m already 10 ft up with one stick with a mechanical and knut hitch. For anyone watching these videos I would recommend doing your research before following this kind of advice.
@@derekwells4952 based on the advice of people who have commented on this video I switched all of my carabiners to Delta links, so do you really think that you could be 10 feet up with one stick faster than I can get to 20 feet with just ropes I’m telling it’s not possible
What brand are the bags attached to your saddle? They look nice and large. I have a couple of Tethrd brand bags, they are a little small for my liking.
People make this stuff so much more complicated than it needs to be
Using the Linemans isn’t ideal. If your foot slips out of the loop gonna be a bad day. Just convert it for use as an additional tether to go over branches.
Great idea
Nice informative video with some great camera work!!
1) Dont side load carabiners. Use a delta link.
2) Dont use a lineman's like that. When you're on a lineman's you should be leaning back slightly and the belt should be taught, it won't work to stand up straight unless you really tighten it. Use it as a 3rd tether instead of a linesman's to leapfrog the branches.
3) Leg lock the tree with your right leg for stability as you advance the top tether.
4) Run the top foot loop on the tag end of your tether with a second prussic and ditch the double tether system.
5) Invest in presets. The only time you have to do this is the first time. SRT thereafter.
6) Maybe consider dialing in a system a little more before making an instructional. There's alot of saddle hunters doing bone headed things in the woods with no safety plan and no family with a clue where they are and we need to contribute to that as little as possible.
I like the idea of the second foot loop to help stand off from the tree. I put a quick link on my linemans and call it my second tether, pretty much just have it for passing limbs, but it feels good knowing I have a back up. I like using a linemans belt traditionally if I have steps though. If I could use spurs, I'd definietly use it in the traditional way more.
Not sure them biners you’re using to connect tether to tree are rated for that. They look aluminum.
Might wanna switch them out to steel.
Add thumb loops to your tether so you can move it up safely
I have a stirrup to each foot on a 2TC set up, If you stiffen the tethers where they go around the tree, you'll be able to climb much faster
Also, forget carabiners and quick links, and try the bypass link.
Good luck!
I love this but I have a question, why not use two of the foot climbers and just walk up with that same stability even faster without having to use the aider? I love this idea
Looks like a bigger pain to me than just using sticks
I climbed with sticks for a long time. Once you try this and practice it. Sticks will just take up space in the garage
@@tylerparker3024 the real benefits of this method is it’s lighter and less bulky. Good for people who walk far in, go through thick brush, rough terrain, or rappel down the tree after hunting.
I get the idea just doesnt seem better to me personally. Looks like more energy being spent on the tree than it would take to carry sticks. Possibly more oppurtunity for injuries while youre 100 miles deep too which wouldnt be good. Idk just seems like its a little much but hey we cant all do the same things. Be safe out there ✌️
Yes, biggest risk with 2 tether climbing is if your foot slips off the trunk. It could potentially lead to you slipping out of the foot strap. That’s why I recommend not using this method with a lineman rope. The other problem is if you drop one of them, then you’re stuck. He has his rappel rope to get down, which I now use to both climb and hunt. It’s not practical when using sticks but I use wild edge steps, so they don’t interfere with a tether or rappel rope like sticks would.
@@tylerparker3024 it’s not so much about the weight of the sticks, even though that does add a little bit to it. Climbing trees in any fashion is inherently dangerous and you have to have safety precautions and be mindful of what you’re doing. That being said I’ve had slip out while I’m climbing up or climbing down in that safety packet that we get with any tree stand. It comes with a foot tether, which is what that is for. but to your point if you practice this, the energy expenditure does get less than less because you get more efficient every time you do it I’m not here to change and give it a try. See what you think.
I was looking for something exactly like this! Your 2 tether method climbing method looks the easiest I have seen. Thank you for sharing this! Could you tell me how long is the blue strap that is on your right foot on your second tether or link to what you used? Also, can you share how you attached it to the tether? Is it just girth hitched onto a prussic that is on the tether? Thanks again!
The blue strap is a pretzel climbing aider. I tied that into the second tether with a friction hitch. Look at my other shorter videos I have some close ups on the ropes themselves good luck this year!
I’ve been saying the two foot is the way to go.
I’m new to saddle hunting but I’ve seen where it’s not advisable to side load a carabiner like you’re doing. What are your thoughts?
Yes, you should use a climbing rated quick link or a delta link.
Side load ? Like what I’m doing for my tether instead of a girth hitch ?
The carabiners are all mt climbing grade
@@ColonelTavington carabiners are designed to be strongest along their spine and little less strong pulling across the gate. It should be labeled on your carabiner. However, the way you attached your tether with a carabiner around the tree, you are side loading it in a way it’s not designed to hold. I’m not saying it’s going to snap on you, but like was previously mentioned in above comment from another person, it’s better to use a quick link or delta link. Those items are designed for side loads. Just a thought.
@@ColonelTavington if you think about a carabiner as a link in a chain, it is meant to be used like it is when taught. Cross loading is when you would be pulling against the flatter sides of the link. Side loading is what happens when you pull perpendicular to the link.
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Quick links ordered!
Just get a throw line and shot bag to set a line. Less gear to pack and way faster
I just started to do that. Keeping the tether climbing for ascending in the dark
@@ColonelTavington good call. I do tree work, so we have to keep our time and energy efficiency and usually both hands available at any time. Cheers from florida!
By the time you got all those unsafe connections made, I’m already 10 ft up with one stick with a mechanical and knut hitch. For anyone watching these videos I would recommend doing your research before following this kind of advice.
@@derekwells4952 based on the advice of people who have commented on this video I switched all of my carabiners to Delta links, so do you really think that you could be 10 feet up with one stick faster than I can get to 20 feet with just ropes I’m telling it’s not possible
@@ColonelTavington 😂 ok keep influencing your RUclips viewers with unsafe practices… I’ll keep getting up my trees in half the time…
@@derekwells4952 you really think the ropes are unsafe tho? Sticks or whatever aside
@@derekwells4952 I want to honestly see a video of what you're talking about.
@@ColonelTavingtonropes are not unsafe, the way you’re using them is.
That linesman is just a decoration. Tether it instead.
What brand are the bags attached to your saddle? They look nice and large. I have a couple of Tethrd brand bags, they are a little small for my liking.
@@waytoobusyrt just some cheapos off of amazon.