A James rant is always entertaining but the rare Mason rant is always an instant classic: "I'm like a man on his deathbed slowly realizing he's seen the faces of his co-workers more than the faces of his children. But in this case, my co-workers is the movie 'X-Men Origins: Wolverine' and my children is all my cool jackets that I can't wear currently because I'm in this little room"
@@phillipbotello6886 Logan's girlfriend tells him this long boring story about wolverines howling at the moon. But wolverines don't howl. They're not in any way related to wolves. They're a totally different animal. They're not even canines. Wolverines are in the same family as weasels.
Yeah, wolverines are like a cross between a badger and a weasel but larger than both. The "Wolv" part of their name doesn't mean they are wolves just as Polecats aren't cats.
Speaking of Tom Rothman Remember that leaked Deadpool test footage that eventually became the Deadpool Movie? DP ends it waving to the camera saying “Hi Tom!” That’s Ryan Reynolds taunting Tom Rothman who denied a Deadpool movie for years. While at Fox Rothman was also responsible for Galactus being a cloud. He’s the current head of Sony pictures. He’s the one running SPUMM. Venom, Morbius, Madam Web, Kraven. All Rothman.
Amazing how one man can be responsible for so many bad decisions. You'd think eventually just by the law of averages he'd have a good one but no, it's just L after L with him isn't it?
The thing that annoys me about these movies is that the X-Men movies already were Wolverine movies, to a fault. The first movie bends over backwards to make Wolverine the main character and frame it through his perspective.
I mean Hugh is awesome but you’re right, they just took the one character people associate with the X-Men and made the rest of the characters extras. It’s also just laziness, it’s easier to just make movies about the guy with knives on his hands than a lady who controls the weather or a dude who shoots lasers from his eyes.
That’s because Wolverine has always been one of Marvel’s fattest cash cows. Easily the most popular X-Men character in the 90’s when the films were first pitched. Why WOULDN’T they make him the central character?
Actually canonically after this movie, Gambit finds a home locks himself inside for about 3 months curled up, formed a cocoon, transformed into Channing Tatum and was never seen again.
Having worked on the X-Men Origins: Wolverine Uncaged game at Raven Software, I can tell you that the script wasn't really finished when we were developing it. We had a level with Gambit in a Las Vegas hotel, which wasn't in the movie (as well as a Sentinel level), but then we had to change the location of the hotel casino level from Vegas to New Orleans, because they decided to put Gambit in the movie as well. I worked on the storyboards for the intros for hte levels so we had to base it off of the script that we were sent. I remember storyboard the Silver Fox moon scene and how to make it not be too costly for us to make in game. Great to see Lynn Collins and Taylor Kitsch make it to John Carter. Too bad you didn't cover the game in this video. We were quite proud of it and people thought it was better than the movie it was based off of which was the reverse of what video games based on movies were at the time.
@@krono5el TBF, our levels and game play and bad guys may have gotten a bit one note after a bit, but it was fun Bing a part of the team. I really remember when they had me test out the lock on feature and then you could launch Logan at an enemy, which really made the combat a bit more fast paced. The regeneration was a lot of fun and the OTT kills was great too, showing what a guy with claws can do.
I love how the cartoon and comics treat his memory loss like implanted memories. Like he was actually a monster beforehand but he’ll never fully know. They even hinted to it in X2 when Stryker tells him he was always an animal. Then you get here and you get none of that.
Exactly. I much prefer the idea that Logan was a morally ambiguous killer before his amnesia. Joining the X-Men gave him a second chance at being a decent person and even a hero.
@@DarkKingHades to be fair it literally shows Logan fighting in Five major conflicts in the world, which classifes him as an extremely aggressive killer. the whole reason for his PTSD in the movie is because he's conflicted with what he had to do in the war and whether or not it makes him a monster
@@JKissoon1 I was like Huh I guess he's been wearing that in all the films? Yet they treat it with the reverence of Darth Vader donning his mask for the first time.
I’ve seen every X-men movie multiple times, expect origins which I just now watched for the first time, and I never before noticed he was always wearing the same jacket
I'm glad you told me why I thought you had already covered this like five times before, I thought I had been reverse shot in the head with adamantium bullets and was remembering things that hadn't happened.
I had a full blown argument with a guy I went to school with about this film after we saw Logan together and he claimed that it wasn’t as good as this film. Was a stupid argument between two 15 year olds but I genuinely haven’t spoken to that guy since. Hubert Jackman’s hair is pretty good in this though
@@mattgilbert7347 He was the kid that played young Wolverine in this movie, so technically he's the only other live action portrayal of the character alongside Hugh Jackman.
When we first got married, my wife bought me the DVD of this movie for Xmas “because I like x-men movies”. It wasn’t a joke gift… just my Xmas gift. I was so annoyed, I bought her the DVD of “Observe and Report”the next Christmas because she “likes shopping”. Each subsequent year we kept buying eachother DVDs that we thought the other would hate but ultimately stopped when (several years later) she bought me the Director’s cut of “Team America” and a) I enjoyed it, and b) she was horrified by *that one scene. 😂
I want to believe that at some point in the 90s, Logan just had a bad sneeze and the two adamantium bullets inside his skull shot out with lethal force and killed a couple of guys. Hire me, Marvel
Growing up in Pennsylvania, I remember learning about Three Mile Island around the same time that this movie came out. So I’ll always have this skewed memory of Hugh Jackman causing Three Mile Island nuclear meltdown.
@InconsequentialVoiceintheCrowd A long time ago, I was in Burma. My friends and I were working for the local government. They were trying to buy the loyalty of tribal leaders by bribing them with precious stones. But their caravans were being raided in a forest north of Rangoon by a bandit. So, we went looking for the stones. But in six months, we never met anybody who traded with him. One day, I saw a child playing with a ruby the size of a Trivierine. The bandit had been throwing them away.
I love when James finds something funny and just runs the bit into the ground and then through the ground and just keeps going until anyone else finds it funny. And the moment anyone else enjoys the bit he drops it forever. It's probably what keeps me here
Little known fun fact: Beast was originally considered for one of the brief cameos, but he would’ve been mostly cgi. They realized it would be too expensive and time consuming to accomplish his furry blue appearance, so the idea was scrapped. They had already started on very basic designs, so they had to track down every file and sketch to get rid of to avoid it being leaked. This resulted in the movie being given the working title Blue Harvest. Coincidentally, that was also the working title for Star Wars Episode 6 Return of the Jedi
Maso is completely right about the bullet holes in his skull, which I’m glad Logan answered, when you shoot through metal it doesn’t just punch a hole, it warps the metal. So the adamatium around the holes would’ve bent inward and kept those holes from ever closing, which is exactly what happened to X-24, Laura blew the top of his head off and now that bit of his skull can’t ever grow back, which is how it successfully killed him.
Don't quote me 'cause I can't remember where I read it, but I think he can heal the adamantium since his body thinks is they way it should be or smth like that, I think they explained it after magneto take his adamantium. But IDK if is something I made up as a memory or is true. Oh, no, I found it: Wolverine's healing factor caused a change in the molecular structure of the metal. It's the only known occurrence of adamantium beta. It allows things like bone marrow and other substances to pass through the metal to maintain his life functions, as well as allowing the healing factor to heal the metal.
Even without the adamantium healing thing, won't just his original cranial skull just regenerate in its place just like his bone claws in the next film when his adamantium claws got sliced off his bone claws grew back in place
I think the way the movie was trying to justify that scene is that the bullets aren't going through his skull, but the force of them is concussing his brain at just the right point to damage the memory center of his brain. Granted, that is giving the movie infinitely more benefit of the doubt than it ever deserves that the writers would actually think beyond copying a comic panel or a storyboard note.
They could have avoided that whole issue by shooting him in the eye. Bullet goes in bounces around inside his skull brain turns to mush and when it heals his memories are all scrambled up.
@@jeroti187 I want to say that happens in Messiah Complex in the comics. Not the memory bit but the bullet in the eye and just bouncing around in his skull parts do. It was definitely a Marauder that did it but it might not have been Messiah Complex.
I think Wolverine has an adamantium coated skeleton, not an adamantium skeleton. So if you shot through his skull, the bone would still heal, it just wouldn't have the adamantium layer on it anymore
@@logandh2 not necessarily people who have metal or other foreign object injuries that are lodged in them often have bone heal around them although not in their proper original position. Is there any reason to believe Logans bones with his healing powers wouldn't heal around a small indentation?
I think really we’re supposed to assume that the adamantium also heals. Wolverine gets his metal claws cut off in The Wolverine, but he has them back later in Logan and other X-Men movies chronologically set after The Wolverine.
MVP of this, without a doubt, Liev Schreiber as Sabretooth, he is terrific in this otherwise shit ass shitty movie. Disappointed that he’s seemingly not returning for Deadpool & Wolverine.
He should’ve been the villain in LOGAN instead of doing the evil clone trope. Especially because they could’ve paid off the “If anyone kills you it’s gonna be me!” line from this movie.
This was such a missed opportunity I thought Jackman and Schreiber had solid chemistry, the whole Wolverine and Sabretooth as siblings is a good change and made intuitive sense to me. That montage in the beginning with him and Sabertooth fighting through the various wars should've been the film and you end at WW2, which is where the main arc of The Wolverine kicks off. The focus would them growing apart because of them differently thinking about humans (foreshadowing X vs Magneto) with the whole brotherhood retcon. Making the main plot and climax of the film be a unique front like say the Russo Japanese theater leading up to end of the war and the 2 atomic strikes, with Wolverine having to take on both Sabretooth and Omega Red in a three way to save some people surviving the Nagasaki blast. Xmen but with Barefoot Gen/Graveyard of the Fireflies type narrative that leads into the events of The Wolverine.
Another good thing that came out of the Xmen Origins: Wolverine movie is the video game adaptation. Nothing but Logan hacking and slashing bad guys with blood.
The implication that being shot in the head erases Logan's memories adds a weird wrinkle to the montage at the start. Either throughout those DECADES of war, Logan never got shot in the head **OR** every couple days he forgot everything and had to be rebooted 50 First Dates style by Sabertooth. Which would explain why Sabertooth went CRAZY by the end because he had to keep teaching his brother everything about his life every 6 hours for 100 years
he gets shot with an adamantium bullet which erases his memories, he can heal from being shot in the head with a normal bullet (which he does in X2 i think)
@@stargirl32102 But the only reason they needed an adamantium bullet was to get through the metal skull. Before he had the metal skull, a regular bullet could theoretically scramble his memories, according to this movie
Remember how the workprint leaked on April Fool's Day? Some (fools) legit thought it was a prank and that there was no way the final movie could be that bad.
My step dad argued back and forth with me that "that wasn't Deadpool at the end" with the weapon x program. Even around the time with the first Deadpool in 2016 and the Easter with the action figures fighting, he still wouldn't admit it
Everyone knows that the effects are really shonky but the one that really infuriates me is when wolverine uses his new claws to slice an X all the way through the metal doors. He creates 4 chunks of metal in the middle of the X that aren’t connected to anything and they don’t fall. They just hover in the middle of the X and I really hate it.
My question is how does the adamantium coat all his bones contours perfectly but the bone claws, which don't have a blade edge, somehow grow a blade edge when they get coated?
I remember getting out of this at the theater and being like "okay so that was literally just a worse version of everything we already knew happened from the first two x men films"
You'd think an origin movie for Wolverine would be dedicated to why he wakes up screaming from his nightmares but hes already doing that 23 minutes into this movie.
I'm glad I'm not the only one whose first experience with this film was an unfinished leak. My uncle gave me the DVD, not knowing that it was unfinished. Me and my sister watched the whole thing and laughed whenever we saw any unfinished goofy effects. Whenever I think of this film, I remember the shoddy leaked version rather than the intended version
I had the workprint of this. Was absolutely the funniest thing I'd ever seen. Me and my mate were stoned, and the bit when the plane hit the church in the WW2 bit of the opening montage made us laugh so hard that we almost died.
I'm one of the mean people who watched the workprint before release and I remember being super fascinated by seeing these early previz effects and anticipating seeing the finished effects in the cinema. Boy, was I surprised how many of the "finished" effects barely looked any better than the previz.
ever think about how for years/decades the 3rd installment of any comic book movie franchise was cursed. Superman III, Batman Forever, Spider Man 3, Blade III, Iron Man 3, X3- It goes on... BUT the Wolverine/Logan series did it backwards. Here the first is the worst and the last is the best...go figure lol
I remember my wife wanting to watch all the X-Men films as she hadn’t seen all of them prior to DOFP. We had to rent this one and before the film had finished, she decided she wanted to go to sleep instead of finishing because she didn’t like it. I had her finish it in the morning because the only reason I tortured myself by seeing it a second time was because of her, lol.
I heard that they originally wanted to deviate from the comics by making Logan come from an agricultural background, like the Kents in Superman. He would have used his bone claws to thresh wheat fields in no time, and the muscle memory would have remained as he emerged from the liquid in the Weapon X experimentation pod, giving the film its working title of Blue Harvest.
Hindsight is 20/20. This should have been a prequel trilogy or a sequel trilogy. The fact that they had the misfortune of spending one film on his origin lead to crimes like skimming through all those wars which would’ve been great to see fleshed out.
“We are releasing origin films, we start with wolverine, then gambit and more” Wolverine fails “We cancelled the other origins films and instead will make another wolverine one” Public “what?”
I'm not sure how relevant it is, but here in America we also got the "Wolverine in Japan" post-credits scene in theaters. The rumor at the time was that there were two different prints with different post-credits scenes. I saw the Japan ending in theaters, was confused when people were talking about the Deadpool ending, and didn't see it until the movie was released on DVD.
I admire how Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds both have such open contempt for this film and will take any opportunity to throw shade at the Fox executives responsible
Honestly, I don't hate this movie. Yes, some of the effects are terrible for some reason. But first off, I think Liev Schreiber is great, and I rather have had him back than original Sabretooth in Deadpool 3. Also, I did not mind how they handled Deadpool, because I just saw him as a completely different character than the comic book version. When you do that, and see him as a new character, he kinda works as a terrifying enemy with all the powers he has. Don't get me wrong, he is not amazing, but as a clean slate character, it kinda works in my opinion. Also, Taylor Kitsch is a great choice as Gambit, and this is the only live action movie that even has Gambit in it. And I also rather see him return than Channing Tatum, but I guess if we see Gambit, we will see Tatum rather than Kitsch or Austin Butler for that matter (who is born to play Gambit in my opinion).
I remember as a kid getting this movie from one of those places where you can buy pirated movies in literal paper bags. To my surprise it was the unfinished version. I absolutley LOVED re-watching it over and over, trying to find new details like strings and unfinished CGI.
Slight clarification: if you seek out the video game, make sure you get the Mature 17+ version, with real bloodshed and realistic wounds and healing factor, it's pretty awesome.
What blows my mind is that someone in the production in this movie knew comics well enough to do an Alpha Flight reference that NOBODY noticed... but completely bodged deadpool
I love when Wolverine asks for new dog tags while he's already on the table and the procedure is about to begin like, is there a dog tag pressing machine off to the side of the MASSIVE operation room? Did they not have time to include an operator for the dog tag pressing machine?? Hoping to see Liev Schieber in Deadpool X Wolverine 🤞🤞🤞
In trivia, it would have been worth mentioning that originally Kodi Smit-McPhee had been chosen as the young Logan, years later he played the nightcrawler.
Whoa Mason got so close this time, I can't believe he missed out on this week's prize. Better luck next time I guess Also I served Scott Adkins a latte one time. He's a cool guy
The actress who played silver fox said her original death was her walking into a lake and drowning herself in guilt from what she did to Logan , and it was all shot on film. The studio later made them reshoot her death to what we got.
I remember logging into PlayStation Home around the time this film was about to come out in order to watch a short preview of the film. After queuing into the room and buffering the data (high speed internet wasn't that fast at the time), they play the scene where Logan meets Remi Lebeau for the first time, and I distinctly remember thinking "wow, that looks awful". Still haven't seen the movie to this day.
It's not just a country-by-country thing; it seemed 50/50 as to which theaters HERE IN THE STATES got which post-credits scene. Lucky lucky me, I "got" to see the Japanese bar scene; they asked "Drinking to forget?", and I actively, audibly said, "Oh come on, no, no, don't say it..." and Hugh said, "No... I'm drinking to remember," and it upset me that they did exactly what I told them not to do, as though to spite me.
I agree the game is awesome. I wish they could have continued making more games, prequel, and spin-off for the Wolverine Origins game. I hope they can remake or remastered the game for Xbox Series X and somehow add easter eggs with the movie Deadpool & Wolverine movie
I love how Bloodshot, just by virtue of being the last movie to come out before the COVID-19 closures, has a permanent spot in jokes on this channel. Even though it's a perfectly unremarkable movie that everyone would have forgotten about by now.
It's also not that bad. Maybe the best use of Vin Diesel in the last decade, 'cause the movie makes fun of his persona and he rarely allows that anymore.
It’s a terrible movie, but I really enjoy it, it’s so damn funny. And it’s so memorable. I like The Wolverine but it isn’t that memorable. It really needed an R rating and I’ve not seen the R rated cut.
I liked what they did with deadpool's mouth at least. Because that's exactly what someone would do. They'd be like "Can we shut this guy up". Very realistic. And of course i like the combination of powers in him. Obviously they should have done that with someone else, because you can't have his 4th wall stuff in a serious universe. But it's not bad at all if you just treat him as a different character.
Fond memories of watching the leaked incomplete version of this film with my mom in 8th grade. We got pirated dvds from my (late) mom’s (also late) friend/ex. It was so bad, but the incomplete effects were so interesting it made the bad script better, the end battle that was half drawings and half incomplete 3d models.
Lawrence should've leaked the unfinished edit of this video.
That dude could have shouted for rodney with signs saying "insert swamp here" all around him
Dude you should do standup
I remember my dad watching it back in the day.
Imagine James and Mason without visual effects 🤮
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A James rant is always entertaining but the rare Mason rant is always an instant classic: "I'm like a man on his deathbed slowly realizing he's seen the faces of his co-workers more than the faces of his children. But in this case, my co-workers is the movie 'X-Men Origins: Wolverine' and my children is all my cool jackets that I can't wear currently because I'm in this little room"
A month later I keep coming back to this video over and over just for that rant
Time stamp?
I'm very upset they talked about this movie for 20 minutes and didn't bring up the fact that this movie thinks wolverines are wolves.
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@@phillipbotello6886 Logan's girlfriend tells him this long boring story about wolverines howling at the moon.
But wolverines don't howl. They're not in any way related to wolves. They're a totally different animal. They're not even canines.
Wolverines are in the same family as weasels.
@@Man-xn2fuYou mean like T.J. Miller's character from Deadpool? 😉
They do that in every X-Men.
Yeah, wolverines are like a cross between a badger and a weasel but larger than both.
The "Wolv" part of their name doesn't mean they are wolves just as Polecats aren't cats.
I remember my friends missed the opening montage in the theater. It was funny when we told them afterwards that it was the best bit.
That opening credits montage was fantastic.
Yup. Best part of the film
The best thing would have been to flesh out a bit of each era. The actual plot sucked.
Terrible movie overall but that opening is one of the top 10 best opening montages ever made.
did any of them believe you?
Speaking of Tom Rothman
Remember that leaked Deadpool test footage that eventually became the Deadpool Movie? DP ends it waving to the camera saying “Hi Tom!” That’s Ryan Reynolds taunting Tom Rothman who denied a Deadpool movie for years.
While at Fox Rothman was also responsible for Galactus being a cloud.
He’s the current head of Sony pictures. He’s the one running SPUMM. Venom, Morbius, Madam Web, Kraven. All Rothman.
That adds up, a real king of making garbage Marvel movies it seems.
@@li-limandragon9287perhaps a Caravan of Marvel Garbage?
I thought you were going to go into a blue harvest joke with that! 😂
Amazing how one man can be responsible for so many bad decisions. You'd think eventually just by the law of averages he'd have a good one but no, it's just L after L with him isn't it?
How does he have a job lmaooo
Surely we win some prizes this week
Edit: fuck
He cant keep getting away with it!!!
Maybe in Trivirine next week?
My hopes were dashed quite swiftly
Maybe next time..
James is a monster
The thing that annoys me about these movies is that the X-Men movies already were Wolverine movies, to a fault. The first movie bends over backwards to make Wolverine the main character and frame it through his perspective.
I mean Hugh is awesome but you’re right, they just took the one character people associate with the X-Men and made the rest of the characters extras.
It’s also just laziness, it’s easier to just make movies about the guy with knives on his hands than a lady who controls the weather or a dude who shoots lasers from his eyes.
Pretty much the entire series, yeah.
X-Men = Wolverine and Rogue
X-2 = Wolverine and Friends
X-Men: The Last Stand = Wolverine and Jean Grey
@@ultimamage3I refuse to acknowledge Fox Rogue as Rogue. Deadpool from this movie was less of insult.
That’s because Wolverine has always been one of Marvel’s fattest cash cows. Easily the most popular X-Men character in the 90’s when the films were first pitched. Why WOULDN’T they make him the central character?
@@li-limandragon9287I mean tyetvdidjt have the rights to Ms. Marvel so they couldn’t have Rouge steal her powers
Actually canonically after this movie, Gambit finds a home locks himself inside for about 3 months curled up, formed a cocoon, transformed into Channing Tatum and was never seen again.
He was seen again. Magic Mike! (He changed his name.)
Having worked on the X-Men Origins: Wolverine Uncaged game at Raven Software, I can tell you that the script wasn't really finished when we were developing it. We had a level with Gambit in a Las Vegas hotel, which wasn't in the movie (as well as a Sentinel level), but then we had to change the location of the hotel casino level from Vegas to New Orleans, because they decided to put Gambit in the movie as well. I worked on the storyboards for the intros for hte levels so we had to base it off of the script that we were sent. I remember storyboard the Silver Fox moon scene and how to make it not be too costly for us to make in game. Great to see Lynn Collins and Taylor Kitsch make it to John Carter.
Too bad you didn't cover the game in this video. We were quite proud of it and people thought it was better than the movie it was based off of which was the reverse of what video games based on movies were at the time.
It was a cracking game.
Was a fantastic game! Soooo much better than this damned movie😂😂😂
shows you in gaming gameplay is king because idk what happened in that game narratively yet i had a blast playing it.
shows you in gaming gameplay is king because idk what happened in that game narratively yet i had a blast playing it.
@@krono5el TBF, our levels and game play and bad guys may have gotten a bit one note after a bit, but it was fun Bing a part of the team. I really remember when they had me test out the lock on feature and then you could launch Logan at an enemy, which really made the combat a bit more fast paced. The regeneration was a lot of fun and the OTT kills was great too, showing what a guy with claws can do.
"He does whistle when he runs" with the edit, this is the top tier comedy that you just cannot find anywhere else. God I love the boys
James dropping "snik-its" deserved more what a line
Snickers!
@@lrrroftheplanetomicronpersei8no!
@@lrrroftheplanetomicronpersei8 No!
@15:15 "He does whistle when he runs"... like a wiffle ball... like a Wifflerine.
The lack of ads is such an underrated aspect of your channel, love ya boys
More like X Men: Bore-igins Wolverine. Got em.
booooooooo
Bloody gottem
More like Bore Ragnarok
@@10sansari bloody gottem
@@10sansarinow that's a blast from the past
I love how the cartoon and comics treat his memory loss like implanted memories. Like he was actually a monster beforehand but he’ll never fully know. They even hinted to it in X2 when Stryker tells him he was always an animal. Then you get here and you get none of that.
Exactly. I much prefer the idea that Logan was a morally ambiguous killer before his amnesia. Joining the X-Men gave him a second chance at being a decent person and even a hero.
@@DarkKingHades to be fair it literally shows Logan fighting in Five major conflicts in the world, which classifes him as an extremely aggressive killer. the whole reason for his PTSD in the movie is because he's conflicted with what he had to do in the war and whether or not it makes him a monster
oh yeah this totally craps on x2 which is still probably the best X-Men movie.
It wasn't until this movie that I realized Wolverine's jacket was supposed to be iconic.
Same
@@JKissoon1 I was like Huh I guess he's been wearing that in all the films? Yet they treat it with the reverence of Darth Vader donning his mask for the first time.
I didn't even get that until this comment.
It's as iconic as Abby's hammer from The Last of Us 2.
I’ve seen every X-men movie multiple times, expect origins which I just now watched for the first time, and I never before noticed he was always wearing the same jacket
I'm glad you told me why I thought you had already covered this like five times before, I thought I had been reverse shot in the head with adamantium bullets and was remembering things that hadn't happened.
Adamantium pulled from your brain
@@sanguillotine those backwards boys are at it again!
I had a full blown argument with a guy I went to school with about this film after we saw Logan together and he claimed that it wasn’t as good as this film. Was a stupid argument between two 15 year olds but I genuinely haven’t spoken to that guy since. Hubert Jackman’s hair is pretty good in this though
Nah you gotta know when to draw a line, you made the only choice there mate
How could anyone prefer this? Even if you’re just in it for the action, the action in Logan is also better
@@richard8396this movie is basically a wolverine anime. If you look at it that way it’s a lot of fun.
@@richard8396some might prefer a Logan in his prime and doesn’t die, considering the opposite tone for both films, one is a slightly happier ending
I wonder if he ever looks back on that argument and realizes how ridiculous that was.
I feel like you dodged a bullet there.
Thank you Mr. Sunday Movies for the prize this week. I'm not sure why Mason has yet to win one, it's not that hard.
The thought that came with the prize was as fabulous as the prize itself!
To be fair to Maso. He was right and did say Deathstrike
He 100% did
I think he said Destro
Here for the same reason. I demand an editor apology!
@@barthalennever
@@laurencemp4 I will accept this reply and hereby nullify my previous demand.
It’s insane how the only two live action Wolverines are Hugh Jackman and Troye Sivan of all people
Huh? Who is that and when did he play Wolverine?
@@mattgilbert7347 He was the kid that played young Wolverine in this movie, so technically he's the only other live action portrayal of the character alongside Hugh Jackman.
@@mattgilbert7347hugh jackman is hugh jackman and he plays wolvernive in the scene where hugh jackman plays wolverine in that scene that exists.
@@brandonmunsen6035 I meant Troye Sivan
@@WolfsGamingBlog Ah ok. Thanks
Shame because this film failed we never got
Xmen origins: wolverine 2: magneto
Or X-Men Origins Wolverine 3 Magneto 2 Squirrel Girl
When we first got married, my wife bought me the DVD of this movie for Xmas “because I like x-men movies”.
It wasn’t a joke gift… just my Xmas gift.
I was so annoyed, I bought her the DVD of “Observe and Report”the next Christmas because she “likes shopping”.
Each subsequent year we kept buying eachother DVDs that we thought the other would hate but ultimately stopped when (several years later) she bought me the Director’s cut of “Team America” and a) I enjoyed it, and b) she was horrified by *that one scene. 😂
Was expecting a blue harvest joke
I’m sorry WHAT ONE SCENE. That movie has a lot of that ONE SCENE
@@MrDrProfessorSir962hahah. The scene she walked out of were when Gary and the romantic lead got… romantic. 😂
Cute story.
I want to believe that at some point in the 90s, Logan just had a bad sneeze and the two adamantium bullets inside his skull shot out with lethal force and killed a couple of guys.
Hire me, Marvel
Growing up in Pennsylvania, I remember learning about Three Mile Island around the same time that this movie came out. So I’ll always have this skewed memory of Hugh Jackman causing Three Mile Island nuclear meltdown.
Hey guys don't forget to say "Wolverivia" next week.
*Trivierine
@InconsequentialVoiceintheCrowd
A long time ago, I was in Burma. My friends and I were working for the local government. They were trying to buy the loyalty of tribal leaders by bribing them with precious stones. But their caravans were being raided in a forest north of Rangoon by a bandit. So, we went looking for the stones. But in six months, we never met anybody who traded with him. One day, I saw a child playing with a ruby the size of a Trivierine. The bandit had been throwing them away.
@redoctober1991 the further into this I got, the more my inner voice started sounding like Michael Caine.
Nice going man they forgot. You weren't loud enough
3:48 - 4:12 is comedic perfection. The dialog, the images, and the editing...we are all truly blessed to witness it.
I love when James finds something funny and just runs the bit into the ground and then through the ground and just keeps going until anyone else finds it funny. And the moment anyone else enjoys the bit he drops it forever. It's probably what keeps me here
Little known fun fact: Beast was originally considered for one of the brief cameos, but he would’ve been mostly cgi. They realized it would be too expensive and time consuming to accomplish his furry blue appearance, so the idea was scrapped. They had already started on very basic designs, so they had to track down every file and sketch to get rid of to avoid it being leaked. This resulted in the movie being given the working title Blue Harvest.
Coincidentally, that was also the working title for Star Wars Episode 6 Return of the Jedi
There it is.
For fucks sake
I appreciate you. 👑
Maso is completely right about the bullet holes in his skull, which I’m glad Logan answered, when you shoot through metal it doesn’t just punch a hole, it warps the metal. So the adamatium around the holes would’ve bent inward and kept those holes from ever closing, which is exactly what happened to X-24, Laura blew the top of his head off and now that bit of his skull can’t ever grow back, which is how it successfully killed him.
Don't quote me 'cause I can't remember where I read it, but I think he can heal the adamantium since his body thinks is they way it should be or smth like that, I think they explained it after magneto take his adamantium. But IDK if is something I made up as a memory or is true.
Oh, no, I found it: Wolverine's healing factor caused a change in the molecular structure of the metal. It's the only known occurrence of adamantium beta. It allows things like bone marrow and other substances to pass through the metal to maintain his life functions, as well as allowing the healing factor to heal the metal.
Even without the adamantium healing thing, won't just his original cranial skull just regenerate in its place just like his bone claws in the next film when his adamantium claws got sliced off his bone claws grew back in place
I think the way the movie was trying to justify that scene is that the bullets aren't going through his skull, but the force of them is concussing his brain at just the right point to damage the memory center of his brain.
Granted, that is giving the movie infinitely more benefit of the doubt than it ever deserves that the writers would actually think beyond copying a comic panel or a storyboard note.
They could have avoided that whole issue by shooting him in the eye. Bullet goes in bounces around inside his skull brain turns to mush and when it heals his memories are all scrambled up.
@@jeroti187 I want to say that happens in Messiah Complex in the comics. Not the memory bit but the bullet in the eye and just bouncing around in his skull parts do. It was definitely a Marauder that did it but it might not have been Messiah Complex.
I think Wolverine has an adamantium coated skeleton, not an adamantium skeleton. So if you shot through his skull, the bone would still heal, it just wouldn't have the adamantium layer on it anymore
My thoughts exactly! So you can kill him by shooting him in that exact spot again, I guess
The adamatium around the holes in his skull would bend inward around the edges, meaning his skull couldn’t close around the bend
@@logandh2 not necessarily people who have metal or other foreign object injuries that are lodged in them often have bone heal around them although not in their proper original position. Is there any reason to believe Logans bones with his healing powers wouldn't heal around a small indentation?
But in the xrays they show perfectly pristine skull plates, so either he got patched up or we shouldn't think too hard about it.
I think really we’re supposed to assume that the adamantium also heals. Wolverine gets his metal claws cut off in The Wolverine, but he has them back later in Logan and other X-Men movies chronologically set after The Wolverine.
Mason knowing the aliases of Alpha Flight and excitedly announcing that is adorable.
MVP of this, without a doubt, Liev Schreiber as Sabretooth, he is terrific in this otherwise shit ass shitty movie. Disappointed that he’s seemingly not returning for Deadpool & Wolverine.
He should’ve been the villain in LOGAN instead of doing the evil clone trope. Especially because they could’ve paid off the “If anyone kills you it’s gonna be me!” line from this movie.
@@reddragon0624 I think that was the early concept but they weren't able to pull it off
Agreed. He is literally the only reason I would ever watch the film again
@@reddragon0624nah because for wolverine to die in peace he has to kill the feral side of himself. If it wasn't a clone it wouldn't hit as hard.
This was such a missed opportunity
I thought Jackman and Schreiber had solid chemistry, the whole Wolverine and Sabretooth as siblings is a good change and made intuitive sense to me.
That montage in the beginning with him and Sabertooth fighting through the various wars should've been the film and you end at WW2, which is where the main arc of The Wolverine kicks off.
The focus would them growing apart because of them differently thinking about humans (foreshadowing X vs Magneto) with the whole brotherhood retcon.
Making the main plot and climax of the film be a unique front like say the Russo Japanese theater leading up to end of the war and the 2 atomic strikes, with Wolverine having to take on both Sabretooth and Omega Red in a three way to save some people surviving the Nagasaki blast.
Xmen but with Barefoot Gen/Graveyard of the Fireflies type narrative that leads into the events of The Wolverine.
"You left your jacket"
"What jacket?"
"The Hugh Jacket"
Another good thing that came out of the Xmen Origins: Wolverine movie is the video game adaptation. Nothing but Logan hacking and slashing bad guys with blood.
0:37 shouldn't the pieces in the middle of the two slices fall out?
Yes.
Been bothering me for years.
Which says a lot about me tbh.
Not if it's sufficiently thick. It should sit lower, but if it's 2 inches thick then it may not be pushed out in order to fall out
Really informs the quality of this movie, doesn’t it?
"I'm an old man and I wanna be young. Gimme your bones!" ~Mr. James Movies, 2024
The implication that being shot in the head erases Logan's memories adds a weird wrinkle to the montage at the start. Either throughout those DECADES of war, Logan never got shot in the head **OR** every couple days he forgot everything and had to be rebooted 50 First Dates style by Sabertooth. Which would explain why Sabertooth went CRAZY by the end because he had to keep teaching his brother everything about his life every 6 hours for 100 years
he gets shot with an adamantium bullet which erases his memories, he can heal from being shot in the head with a normal bullet (which he does in X2 i think)
@@stargirl32102 But the only reason they needed an adamantium bullet was to get through the metal skull. Before he had the metal skull, a regular bullet could theoretically scramble his memories, according to this movie
Remember how the workprint leaked on April Fool's Day? Some (fools) legit thought it was a prank and that there was no way the final movie could be that bad.
😂😂
The wolverine quadrilogy:
1. X-Men Origins: Wolverine
2. The Wolverine
3. Logan
4. Deadpool 3
5. Australia?
Every single movie features Wolverine in retirement being pulled back in for another job.
@@epicbruhmoment6985It’s strikingly similar to how Daniel Craig was when he did the James Bond movies.
In chronological order:
1. X-Men Origins: Wolverine
2. The Greatest Showman
3. The Wolverine
4. Deadpool
5. Logan
6. Deadpool 2
7. A very Deadpool Christmas
7. Deadpool 3
8. Australia
Leiv as Sabretooth is a terrifying presence
"The timeline has been scrambled like an adamantium brain" is an all timer quote.
My step dad argued back and forth with me that "that wasn't Deadpool at the end" with the weapon x program. Even around the time with the first Deadpool in 2016 and the Easter with the action figures fighting, he still wouldn't admit it
Everyone knows that the effects are really shonky but the one that really infuriates me is when wolverine uses his new claws to slice an X all the way through the metal doors.
He creates 4 chunks of metal in the middle of the X that aren’t connected to anything and they don’t fall.
They just hover in the middle of the X and I really hate it.
I was thinking that too. “Adamantium so powerful it makes things defy gravity”
My question is how does the adamantium coat all his bones contours perfectly but the bone claws, which don't have a blade edge, somehow grow a blade edge when they get coated?
Yes.
@@narcopsy Thanks, sorry for the dumb question
I remember getting out of this at the theater and being like "okay so that was literally just a worse version of everything we already knew happened from the first two x men films"
Mason lets us down with no prizes two weeks in a row. But then he recalls two members of Alpha Flight by their civilian names. 👏 Bravo 👏
You'd think an origin movie for Wolverine would be dedicated to why he wakes up screaming from his nightmares but hes already doing that 23 minutes into this movie.
Make sure you say Trivarine™ next time
Rinse your mouth with The Triviarine™️
Rodneyyyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!
“Fancy little boy” being Troye Sivan is always fucking hilarious to me, love it
I'm glad I'm not the only one whose first experience with this film was an unfinished leak. My uncle gave me the DVD, not knowing that it was unfinished. Me and my sister watched the whole thing and laughed whenever we saw any unfinished goofy effects. Whenever I think of this film, I remember the shoddy leaked version rather than the intended version
I had the workprint of this. Was absolutely the funniest thing I'd ever seen. Me and my mate were stoned, and the bit when the plane hit the church in the WW2 bit of the opening montage made us laugh so hard that we almost died.
I'm one of the mean people who watched the workprint before release and I remember being super fascinated by seeing these early previz effects and anticipating seeing the finished effects in the cinema. Boy, was I surprised how many of the "finished" effects barely looked any better than the previz.
ever think about how for years/decades the 3rd installment of any comic book movie franchise was cursed. Superman III, Batman Forever, Spider Man 3, Blade III, Iron Man 3, X3- It goes on... BUT the Wolverine/Logan series did it backwards. Here the first is the worst and the last is the best...go figure lol
I remember my wife wanting to watch all the X-Men films as she hadn’t seen all of them prior to DOFP. We had to rent this one and before the film had finished, she decided she wanted to go to sleep instead of finishing because she didn’t like it. I had her finish it in the morning because the only reason I tortured myself by seeing it a second time was because of her, lol.
I heard that they originally wanted to deviate from the comics by making Logan come from an agricultural background, like the Kents in Superman. He would have used his bone claws to thresh wheat fields in no time, and the muscle memory would have remained as he emerged from the liquid in the Weapon X experimentation pod, giving the film its working title of Blue Harvest.
"He does whistle when he runs" had me crying. They need to put that effect in a movie. Top tier edit as well.
Hindsight is 20/20. This should have been a prequel trilogy or a sequel trilogy. The fact that they had the misfortune of spending one film on his origin lead to crimes like skimming through all those wars which would’ve been great to see fleshed out.
“We are releasing origin films, we start with wolverine, then gambit and more”
Wolverine fails
“We cancelled the other origins films and instead will make another wolverine one”
Public “what?”
"He does whistle when he runs" Fucking brilliant
I'm not sure how relevant it is, but here in America we also got the "Wolverine in Japan" post-credits scene in theaters.
The rumor at the time was that there were two different prints with different post-credits scenes. I saw the Japan ending in theaters, was confused when people were talking about the Deadpool ending, and didn't see it until the movie was released on DVD.
The BTS drama involving the studio and the director Gavin Hood (who is an Oscar Winner) is more interesting then the film itself
“What are the prizes?” “What do you mean?” LOL 😂🤣
2:23 Mason literally said Lady Deathstrike
100%
Justice for Maso
I admire how Hugh Jackman and Ryan Reynolds both have such open contempt for this film and will take any opportunity to throw shade at the Fox executives responsible
Honestly, I don't hate this movie. Yes, some of the effects are terrible for some reason. But first off, I think Liev Schreiber is great, and I rather have had him back than original Sabretooth in Deadpool 3. Also, I did not mind how they handled Deadpool, because I just saw him as a completely different character than the comic book version. When you do that, and see him as a new character, he kinda works as a terrifying enemy with all the powers he has. Don't get me wrong, he is not amazing, but as a clean slate character, it kinda works in my opinion.
Also, Taylor Kitsch is a great choice as Gambit, and this is the only live action movie that even has Gambit in it. And I also rather see him return than Channing Tatum, but I guess if we see Gambit, we will see Tatum rather than Kitsch or Austin Butler for that matter (who is born to play Gambit in my opinion).
“I can throw purple energy cards, momma. Now I’m all shook up.”
I remember as a kid getting this movie from one of those places where you can buy pirated movies in literal paper bags. To my surprise it was the unfinished version. I absolutley LOVED re-watching it over and over, trying to find new details like strings and unfinished CGI.
When he did the nudie run James said. Logan’s Run
"Run, Logan, Run!"
The best part of this movie was Jackman’s hair. Incredible.
Slight clarification: if you seek out the video game, make sure you get the Mature 17+ version, with real bloodshed and realistic wounds and healing factor, it's pretty awesome.
What blows my mind is that someone in the production in this movie knew comics well enough to do an Alpha Flight reference that NOBODY noticed... but completely bodged deadpool
It's so embarrassing that Mason doesn't get Thoughts and Prizes when everyone else does.
but him not getting it is the whole thing
Even if this movie isnt perfect it gave me the clip of Wolverine saying "I'm Canadian" and thats all that really matters.
I love when Wolverine asks for new dog tags while he's already on the table and the procedure is about to begin like, is there a dog tag pressing machine off to the side of the MASSIVE operation room? Did they not have time to include an operator for the dog tag pressing machine??
Hoping to see Liev Schieber in Deadpool X Wolverine 🤞🤞🤞
They probably had one down the hall, release the dog tag making cut
I will NEVER forget my friend downloading the unfinished version before the movie was out. It was hilarious. 10/10
Next x-men movie "Wolverine: The bloke who's angry sometimes". 😂😂
In trivia, it would have been worth mentioning that originally Kodi Smit-McPhee had been chosen as the young Logan, years later he played the nightcrawler.
I saw this movie as a free bootleg copy, and I still felt ripped off.
I gotta say though, the scene when Wolverine gets the adimantium bonded to him, was awesome! Hugh jackmans yell coming out of the tank was crazy!
Whoa Mason got so close this time, I can't believe he missed out on this week's prize. Better luck next time I guess
Also I served Scott Adkins a latte one time. He's a cool guy
The actress who played silver fox said her original death was her walking into a lake and drowning herself in guilt from what she did to Logan , and it was all shot on film. The studio later made them reshoot her death to what we got.
The real prize is the thoughts we had along the way
I remember logging into PlayStation Home around the time this film was about to come out in order to watch a short preview of the film. After queuing into the room and buffering the data (high speed internet wasn't that fast at the time), they play the scene where Logan meets Remi Lebeau for the first time, and I distinctly remember thinking "wow, that looks awful".
Still haven't seen the movie to this day.
The prize is a vintage, Stan Lee no-prize.
It's not just a country-by-country thing; it seemed 50/50 as to which theaters HERE IN THE STATES got which post-credits scene. Lucky lucky me, I "got" to see the Japanese bar scene; they asked "Drinking to forget?", and I actively, audibly said, "Oh come on, no, no, don't say it..." and Hugh said, "No... I'm drinking to remember," and it upset me that they did exactly what I told them not to do, as though to spite me.
X-Men Origins: Wolverine's Jacket
Got a Mint Mobile add right in the middle of the Ryan Reynolds stuff. Perfect timing.
Cant believe I have to watch this without Rodney
Rodneyyyyyyyyyy!!
That Wade Wilson sword scene was sick
Despite the movie being ridiculously bad, it did give birth to one of the best movie tie-in games ever. So much better than the movie itself
I agree the game is awesome. I wish they could have continued making more games, prequel, and spin-off for the Wolverine Origins game.
I hope they can remake or remastered the game for Xbox Series X and somehow add easter eggs with the movie Deadpool & Wolverine movie
I love how Bloodshot, just by virtue of being the last movie to come out before the COVID-19 closures, has a permanent spot in jokes on this channel. Even though it's a perfectly unremarkable movie that everyone would have forgotten about by now.
It's also not that bad. Maybe the best use of Vin Diesel in the last decade, 'cause the movie makes fun of his persona and he rarely allows that anymore.
It’s a terrible movie, but I really enjoy it, it’s so damn funny. And it’s so memorable. I like The Wolverine but it isn’t that memorable. It really needed an R rating and I’ve not seen the R rated cut.
Worth a watch.
I liked what they did with deadpool's mouth at least. Because that's exactly what someone would do. They'd be like "Can we shut this guy up". Very realistic. And of course i like the combination of powers in him. Obviously they should have done that with someone else, because you can't have his 4th wall stuff in a serious universe. But it's not bad at all if you just treat him as a different character.
This has been a bucket list CoG for a while
I hope they cover all the Fox X-Men besides First Class they deserve a kicking.
Still waiting on men in black
And tomb raiders being done
I saw this movie on my senior ditch day in high school.... should have just gone to school that day.
It’s also a prevalent theory that one of the factors that led to the low box office take of this movie is its overall quality. Which is bad.
11:05 "We're gonna do this with or without you." I cannot stop laughing at this.
You guys have got to watch the Hulk Vs. wolverine animated film...probably the best wolverine origin, and best animated Marvel media...before 2018
Fond memories of watching the leaked incomplete version of this film with my mom in 8th grade. We got pirated dvds from my (late) mom’s (also late) friend/ex. It was so bad, but the incomplete effects were so interesting it made the bad script better, the end battle that was half drawings and half incomplete 3d models.