I think a strange point people are completely ignoring is that whenever Stipe decided to simply not just sit there eating kicks and went forward to pressure Jon. His ONLY answer to forward pressure was literally turning his back and running away caution to the wind. Just run away and restart at kicking range and there goes Stipe doing nothing until he feels like pressuring again (Which his corner was begging him to do). Now can anyone really look at that and say confidently: "Oh yeah Aspinall, Volkov or even Pav would fall prey for something like that and just give up the pressure" When Volkov was facing Pavlovich. He needed to establish a strong jab and straights while keeping himself away to deter his advances. All Jones had to do vs Stipe was turn his back and run back to kicking range. I don't understand how this performance gives people confidence.
Jones fans have low IQ and are disingenuous because they project themselves onto Jones' success, that's why they'll never be fair (and will continue to claim Jones would win easily while he ducks Aspinall)
Perfectly said. People are arguing about tom, but to me, there is not a single hw with some wrestling skills who would lose against jones, not in the top 5
All time, Jon jones is the goat but current jon jones is getting starched by Tom in 1-2 rounds in my humble opinion. Jon looked good against stipe but Stipe looked TERRIBLE. If stipe said fuck it and applied pressure for the whole first round it might have been a very different fight. Those few moments where stipe landed some shots, Tom would do more damage and if Jon does that running away defensive thing, Tom will chase him down. I genuinely don’t even think it would be a close fight 5:03 this part right here, Tom aspinall is getting a finish
@@Warpig9 Not even chasing, Francis is not only either taller or exact same height but him and Jon have the same reach. This tall man defence of fully extending his arms to run away is not doing anything. Francis best tool remains a really nasty check hook he does when the opponent is trying to get away. In a striking bout he's cooked. There's literally no argument that can be made about it based on any of Jon's past fights spawning the last 5yrs.
The majority of his predictions are wrong. He previously said Khamzat was trash, now he's acting like he's always claimed that Khamzat was the best middle weight.
you realize that he literally just weighed in at about 20lbs heavier than Jones this past weekend as the backup fighter? 20lbs is a huge deal especially when most of Jon’s weight is fluff because he’s not built like a heavyweight. Tom’s size advantage would be substantial not to mention his age.
Tom normally weighs 255 while Jon fights at his best at 225. Jon got up to 235 against stipe while looking a little slower and still giving up 20 pounds to Tom
the hard truth about jones vs aspinall is that it won't happen. jones will retire rather than get smoked by tom, i just hope they strip him first 'cos he doesn't deserve to retire as champion if he avoided fighting the #1 contender
@@jass2375 dana said pretty unequivocally that jon won't be fighting pereira during the post-fight for 309 though, he pretty much said fight tom or fight nobody
It looks like a different hype angle to me...Instead of insults and aggression he's avoiding and then he'll do it White canned Periera Jones says he won't retire Jones gets the money that's worth possibly losing for, why wouldn't he?
@@MiggsMultiplelol no I think Jon is legitimately ducking. I don't think it's even negotiation. I think he will just ask for a number they won't give. He asking for "fvk you" money in more than one way. The money asked for will be a fu to to the ufc and fans. Lol. It's all his way of refusing to fight Tom. Figures he can just fight Alex for an easier fight and get paid lots still.
It’s not disrespectful to say Stipe looked old, slow, washed and lost. If anything, it’s respectful towards the Stipe of old and how good he once was whilst Jones fans try to overvalue this win like Stipe was Elite. Not even the goat of the division is going to perform great being closer to 45 than 40, retired for 4 years and coming off of a KO loss. Always will be a legend though.
@ I didn’t even bring up Tom. And anyways Jones is the sitting champion and opted to fight a retired old man, Tom is the defending interim champion and has beaten everyone in his division, his only fight that makes sense and is deserves is Jon Jones. I don’t really get what you mean
That's not even comparable man. Every hw champ in the ufc history is a better hw than jones, who did jones has beaten at hw? The most favorable matchup for him in the ufc and a 42 yo retired legend..
@@groscaramelmou2583Nah, that's a dumb answer, the real reason why it is not comparable is because Jon doesn't have Fedors power. But if you think you know Jon Jones wins to everyone on Hw except Aspinall
@EG-mw8kp very true bro atleast someone has some sense left l. john beat gane fair and square. realistivally John Jones beat every heavyweight anyday. only tom and Sergei Pavlovich can give him a competitive fight
I wouldn’t say Dominick Reyes was any more skilled than Jones in any one martial art (either than Boxing, which I think Aspinall is more skilled than Jones is as well) but the fact that he was so much faster really helped him in that aspect.
Stipe should have known he was at a major disadvantage and gone ooga booga mode from the bell. He should have been lunging at Jones swinging haymakers from the hips with every ounce of power he had. He needed to fight like Michael Chandler on PCP.
@@tomig_9 if they fought they way they just did 100 times, Stipe is winning 0 times. If they fought 100 times and Stipe spazzed, I'd say he flukes out a good 4-5 wins out of 100
MMA Che good analysis. I am in my late 40s. From my experience power is not the last thing to go. I think the saying sometimes confuses strength and power. Power is generated from speed more than muscular strength. That's why you see boxers are typically skinny with good abs but not huge muscles. They want to generate power through speed like snapping strikes like a rubber band. As you age those rubber bands age and they can't keep up. You can still be pretty strong though. I could probably still bench press what I could 25 years ago if you gave me 6 months to lift and get back into it. But could the current version of myself "beat down" the 24 yr old version of myself? No.
This is a solid take There are different kinds of power punches Some are about Accuracy Some are about Timing And those go quicker then raw power Like Conor vs Rumble
Watch the Gane vs Ngganou fight Jones has the best distance management and would keep his range and tire Francis out. But Francis is still dangerous and can ko him.
Any time you think Jon is going to have a hard fight, he steam rolls the guys. It's the fights you think 'Oh boy, this is gonna be a waste" that he struggles. The guys steps up, or "pulses up", to the occasion. He is so fast with the grappling early at heavyweight. Before the action starts he is on a body lock and BOOM. Dude is down getting smashed or passed. I think his work with Gordon Ryan has really paid off. He is so good at using his range and not getting hit. He won't get in boxing range often as he uses teep and kicks to keep you at range. I can totally see Tom blitzing him and ending it soon, but I really won't be surprised if Jones just man handled him. It's the fight to make, but I'm leaning towards Jones at this point. He is the closest to Mayweather of our sport as we got, the guy just doesn't lose and Aspinall has lost multiple times already.
@@mikerelva6915Two of his fights were controversial. Especially Reyes fight and Gustafasson first fight, and are the most debated of all his fights. To beat Jones you need a top striker like them with great takedown defence. Both Gus and Reyes had crisp boxing and was tagging Jones a lot. I think you need more than that to beat Jones. You have to be more creative with your strikes and not a head hunter all the time. This is why Jones is In a position where top strikers In this era have bad ground game. So you could say he has all the advantage In a fight with Alex or a rematch with Gane. However, If their takedown defence have Improved a lot and are able to keep Jones on the feet like Gus and Reyes did first time, Jones will be In more trouble than he has ever been. Because they are not just top strikers but also creative Kickerboxers and Muay Thai fighters that can close the distance with him on the feet. They would target his leggs a lot more. And that something Jones is not very used to. He is used to opponents target his chin most of all. With them he will have to deal with their body kicks, legg kicks, knees and elbows. While time will just try to box with him. Which can do the job now that he is older and slower. Hence why he wants that very big fat paycheck incase he loses.
@@mikerelva6915 Aspinal has that speed that could catch him. That's about it. I assume he will be trying to knock him out from the start. If Gane and Alex had his takedown defense, there is no doubt In my mind Jones would have been ko'd or tko'd In the championship rounds. Because they are not headhunters and would target different part of his body kicks because as World champion Kickboxers and Muay Thai fighters they are use to attack with punches and kicks In different ways but also used to being attacked that way. It pose a different challenge to Jones then what he is used to. He is used to stretch his hands to protect his face. With them on the feet he has to worry about every part of his body.
One thing people dont remember is that jones cranked on stipe's elbow like he did glover. that could have taken some pop out of his right arm. And the hellbows and the body kicks did slow him down
@Mokuteke he did, but jones avoided most of his punches. Jones took stipe down and rode him for over 3 and a half minutes raining elbows on stipe. stipe used a lot of energy on his back when he made every effort to get up but couldn't. this was a masterclass
If you won't fight the best in the division because there is larger than normal chance you won't win, you dont deserve to wear the belt of that division. This is about who's the better fighter, not who has the better resume
First round finish. Tom is a lot bigger , stronger and faster as well as being really skilled. And Jon knows it. He doesn’t like fighting guys with a chance to beat him
did you just start watching mma like 2 years ago? What about when he fought prime Rampage? Rashad Evans? TRT Vitor? Prime Shogun? Machida? DC? Gus? Dude has fought many many guys that could’ve beaten him, they just didn’t.
@@FrigidHeightsAll fighters are different. It's true Tom hasn't faced anyone like Jones, but that goes both ways. Because every fighters has their unique styles. And throughout his career Jones has fought and beaten lot of fighters who were all different from each other. Of course Gustafson first fight and Reyes are the most debated topic In his career. Even to this day. And he didn't want a rematch with Reyes. Let's not forget that.
Great analysis Che. However, I have yet to hear you sing "O Hino" by Fernandinho in flawless Brazilian Portuguese, so I'm not convinced that you really are much of a Charles Oliveira fan.
Jon definitely has the tools to beat Tom but at the same time Jon has the tools to beat almost every fighter but if ANY fighter beats him rn it's Tom aspinall or Curtis blaydes
Do I think Jon CAN beat Aspinall? yes of course. He's incredible, which pains me to say. Do I think he would? Fuck no. Aspinall has great striking, is much larger and faster than anyone else in the division now and makes adjustments so quickly during the fight that it's tough to find things that might work on him. Jon's also a chronic tape watcher and Aspinall has... not a lot of tape to watch tbh. He absolutely vaporized the division in short order. I'm just saying I get why Jon doesn't want to fight him.
Aspinall became INTERIM CHAMPION by destroying active heavyweights ranked 3rd, 4th, 5th ,7th, 8th in their prime, not a retired old man who hasn't been in the ring for 3.5 years. Duck Jones is a coward.
Jon became champion by destroying the number one ranked HW. Not the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 7th or 8th. And those rankings you’ve listed are current. Spivak was not ranked in the top 10 ahead of his fight with Tom. Tybura was 10th
@@karimw.9954 ? Do you mean for hw or lhw? Because i give you the fact he beat gane, the Nr. 1 guy in the division at the time But he did not deserve his original shot at shogun, the only impressive win he had at that time was ryan bader
“Hands up” is a bit of a fallacy in mma-those little gloves don’t offer near the protection of boxing gloves and punches get past them pretty easily. Slipping is more effective. *Edit-unless you’re poking eyes of course 😅
@@DravkatRakhmonessis not at all, as explained in this video. Jones doesn’t hold heavyweight well at all. Guys like Gane, Aspinall, Ngannou, are just naturally 250+ and muscular without needing to bulk. They’re just massive. Jones had to bulk heavily to get to 250 and in doing so had a lot of fluff on him, he has a lanky, wiry, frame. hence the name “Bones”. He’s not built like a heavyweight the way Tom is. Tom could absolutely never make LHW in a million years.
I think the weight will be a big issue for Jon when it comes to grappling with Tom, but when it comes to the striking, it's a different thing. Jones' kicks can hurt any heavyweight on the planet, no matter how big they are. Tom will be severely compromised after eating a few of those kicks to the body. But at the same time, Tom is much faster with his hands and one shot can put Jones down. The thing about Tom is that he's never been tested and Jones will test him. How Tom performs in the championship rounds in a mystery It's such an intriguing fight. I hope it happens.
I don't think Jon's kicks will be as reliable when facing someone like Aspinall. Tom's use of lateral movement and feints makes just chipping away at him a lot tougher than someone like Stipe. He constantly shifts from side to side, dips in and out of range and feints to force reactions. I'd recommend checking out Mighty Mouse's breakdown of Aspinall vs Pavlovich for a pretty in depth look at it. The question really is can Jon survive the first couple of rounds, and can Tom keep up that high energy fight style past R2. Though if Tom can somehow keep that pace up deep into the fight (I doubt he can), then Jon is probably in for a real rough time.
You're wrong about the sequence when Stipe lunged in with punches and Jones stepped backed with his chin in the air. Jones is the best at measuring distance in a fight, he had Stipe measured, all he had to do was back away and reset. You don't want to step back with your chin high if a guy is in range, Stipe was never in range...
Perfect breakdown of the situation. Even chael said it the other day “there’s not a single man walking the earth who weighs 30lbs less than me that I can’t beat in a fight”
To piggyback on that, I hate when people seem to think heavyweights are all just terrible and easy to beat. While they definitely aren’t as technically skilled, the size and strength makes up for it. Thats why you don’t see long reigning heavyweights, you can lose to a less skilled fighter if they just catch you with something big or rip a submission with crazy strength. If heavyweights were trash, then the ripped 205ers would just move up and dominate the division but that doesn’t happen.
I still think aspinall's grappling is largely untested, he's good offensively but how good is he defensively, stuffing takedowns from spivac is nice and all but he's not faced anyone with nearly as good wrestling as jon, someone who had no issues taking down a literal olympic bronze medalist
Sheer size and athleticism makes a huge difference between DC and Tom. That same Bronze medalist couldn’t take down stipe in their third fight? Do you think ngannou is a better wrestler than stipe? Because he looked pretty good in that last fight grappling-wise. I know I’m just asking rhetoricals but I think that shows the weakness of your point. It’s all just mma math that you could easily argue from either side
@@olivermalcolm7076 That was 42 year old dc who blew his back from sneezing tho, I get strength plays into it but jones doesnt just have wrestling his grappling(judo,ground and pound, jui jitsu) as a whole is just so slick
@@ItaDapeeza Jones couldnt take down reyes. Not as simply as jon jones make it out to be dominick reyes and thiago santos arent olympic level wrestlers jon couldnt do shit to them
@@ItaDapeeza firstly, that’s a fair assessment of the dc fight (age was a huge factor for sure) I also think dc at heavyweight was a factor. Much like Jon he’s not built for that weight class and only ever wrestle fucked Derek Lewis who has no grappling. I’d argue that stipe looked similar levels of slow/old last week as DC did in his trilogy fight. I’m not trying to discredit Jon (although I’m not at all a fan of his personality) his grappling is great and I’m super excited to see how coach Gordon Ryan makes a difference in a potential Aspinal fight. I just want to reiterate, although it would be silly to argue Tom is a better wrestler, I don’t actually think he needs to be to beat Jon. Tom’s basic scramble ability and the ability to find a whizzer like the spivac fight are good signs imo that would be silly to put to luck or something of that sort. Long story short, although size/strength is often beaten by considerable skill, size/strength with basic skill can absolutely be a challenge (see Stipe vs Ngannou 2) Fuck me I hope we see the fight lol, if I’m way off after the fact you’ll have some juicy receipts lol
I think you are selling Jon short. I think it’s fair to say Jon will not get submitted and he will not get taken down. I also don’t see a world where Tom wins a decision vs Jon. I just think with all that muscle there’s no way he will keep up with Jon’s cardio in championship rounds and I don’t really see him winning all three of the first 3 rounds. After rewatching the Arlovski fight I think Jon finds a way to stay out of harms way for rounds 1/2 and chips away at the body and gas tank of Tom and maybe edges out the 3rd with a late round takedown and some elbows before taking over in championship rounds. Also I think you’re selling Jon’s defense a bit short. He has probably the best defense we’ve ever seen and even if his speed is a bit slower than his prime his instincts are still the best in the game. Stipe fight included you almost never see him get cracked, he’s always moving with the shots and 7” reach over Tom will definitely help. Maybe Tom blitzes in and cracks Jon early but if he doesn’t get him out of there first 8 minutes or so I think Jon wins a legendary fight that goes down in history. That said Jon weighing in at 235 means he could pretty easily cut back down to LHW and challenge Alex for his strap maybe in early summer before fighting Tom at MSG in November for his final fight. Also I don’t think Tom will be able to blitz in on Jon like everyone seems to think, Jon is world class in all 3 styles of wrestling and his Greco trips and throws are literally made for someone who blitzes in ntm adding gable Stevenson (probably the p4p best freestyle and folkstyle wrestler on the planet currently) to his team just an iron sharpens iron type thing.
I reckon that the lack of tape is the biggest issue, Jon needs a solid game plan for Aspinall but there's just too many unknowns for his team to do that. Also, can you imagine Jon taking a calf kick from Aspinall.. it would snap him ! 🤣
What do you think about JJ using these fights to warm up for Tom. He didn’t fight for a long time. You definitely don’t want to take on Tom first off after a long break.
Maybe my age is showing but I think you have not seen vintage Bones, he goes at peoples strengths negates those and either uses those skills to beat you or he changes his game plan instantly throughout the fight to adjust. No one does that better, you are a victim of recency bias I believe. If you think Tom has decent elbows, good luck on not taking a few of those from Jon. Has Aspinall faced anywhere near the competition of Bones? Please I heard how fast and mobile Gane was before that fight as well.
Jones looked like his joints were rusted to the bone compared to his 205 self and you could hear him creaking every time he moved, but Stipe somehow simultaneously looked like he was fighting underwater and on the moon. Aspinall batters both guys who showed up that night in the same night imo
Tom needs Jon in order to get the big money. If Tom is the stud his fans claim he is then he should be the reason people pay money no matter who he fights. Jerry Cooney 2024. Dudes always looking to us for the big paycheck. Starve him. Make your own way. He is an overrated fighter who will be forgotten in two years.
I like aspinall but tbh Jones has a point the whole Francis thing didn't happen because of money and Dana being difficult with both fighters trying to negotiate for more is more the point. I don't even like Jones but giving aspinall too much confidence could end badly. Guy is an absolute beast but i still think jones can scrape it if it goes past 3 rounds. Apart from Francis or a cross into boxing to box Tyson,usyk or dubois Tom is probably his perfect last fight in the UFC so i don't think he's wrong asking 20-40$ mil for his last 2 fights then boosting across to PFL if he wants to try big Francis and retiring. If he beats tom on drugs or not he'll be definitively the absolute goat of the UFC wether you like him or not. Tom is a great fighter but hasn't got that sociopathic do anything to win look about him like Jones does.
I hate the steroid argument, most pro athletes are just on it. It’s underrated how easy it is to pass these tests. Not defending jones but it’s just how it is
Guys this fight has been unofficially announced because Dana has said publicly that he doesn't want Jon to fight Pereira because he knows Alex would lose and that would be diminishing his future stardom, so with that out of the way I think Jones would 100% take the last payday, even if he'll lose. (like Stipe did).
Jones’s defence has always been really bizarre. He has a really good chin and a good ability to roll with shots but his boxing defence in particular has always been fucking horrendous. I’m not sure how he’s managed to get away with it for so long.
Jon has the skill to beat Aspinall and the skill to get paid what wants. Jon is going to hurt Tom. A knee and kicks to the body, spinning elbows, every legal dirty maneuver he knows. He knows plenty. We have to pay for him to exhibit that skill and expend all that energy. Tom has knockout power, but I would have bet Jon over Francis for the same reason. Some fighters are more dangerous because they don’t give a shit about you, your career, family, wife, nothing you love.
I think Tom's background is catch wrestling. He trained in BJJ after he started with catch wrestling and boxing as a child. But he knicks people out so much and so quickly, ge doesn't showcase his wrestling and grappling skills as much. It would be interesting to really test his wrestling against someone like Jones, who's known as an elite wrestler.
I generally hate MMA youtube channels. I say that with a passion, and my dislike of them is well documented. But I actually enjoy your takes and thoughts on things. Well done
I get what youre saying when you say Jones was probably on PEDs for the first Gustafsson fight. But to be fair Gus was probably on PEDs as well, since that fight was before usada, its only after they started testing when a lot of fighters declined, except for Jones who tested positive like 3 times after that. So thats why i still stand by Gus in the rematch, Jones cheated and the fight shoulndt even happen
The difference is that jones got caught 4 times for ABUSING peds, not guss. Every pro athlete is on peds, but the usage is controled, they cant abuse of it if they dont wana get caught, but jones, even if he is the most privileged fighter ever, got caught 4 times. So no matter how much guss was on peds this night, bet on the fact that jones got at least double dose
The way i see this fight going is, jones is well rounded , elbows , take downs, kicks as we saw, jones frustrates ppl because you never know at what time jones will kick, or take down, or elbow but tom doesn't have to be bettter or more well rounded than Jones to beat him. All tom has to do is time jones and thats all she wrote. I highly doubt jones will survive a brutal haymaker to his chin. Jones best but still risky defense is to stay at range, stay away and beat tom by points but I highly doubt Jones... despite his kicks and elbows will be able to to escape without something landing on him. Tom is a volume puncher. My prediction is, Tom will knock jones out in the 2nd round
Tom is from Atherton, not far from Wigan... Which is the birthplace of catch wrestling. I don't agree that Jon has a better chance with the takedowns etc. if two black belts of a similar level go at it, I'll always pick the bigger more athletic one to win
Jones' kicks were great, but his hand speed looked slow to me. Tom WILL check Jon's chin. We will see if it holds up. I want to see Tom in the 3rd - 5th rounds. Could get interesting with Jon's elite cardio and championship experience.
Che ? That wasn’t the same Gustafson that faced Jones the second time around . Gustafson had no movement . The one thing he did well in the first fight were the feints and constantly in and out movements. Gustafson was just walking down Jon Jones slowly( very little movement). Not the same Gustafson
They sleep on Jones , they think it’s a walk in the Park for Tom . John’s best weapon is the ability to adapt, stay out of harms way and use unorthodox striking .he looks for the path of least resistance, very Tactical. Not like the rest of these HW Lugs that just sit in the pocket whaling at each other till one lands a big shot .
We know about Tom's speed and power, but that's about all we know for sure..So it's hard to have a good idea what would happen in that fight..Jon will certainly make it a distance fight, spamming kicks, jabs, clinch and maybe a take down here and there..Sitting down on a punch against Tom takes extreme courage..But if you don't, Tom will take some shots to knock you out quickly..But, Jon could certainly win that fight, I would lean Aspinall though..
Terrible take because people don’t realize he makes people freeze up due to his tools like low kicks oblique kicks teeps spinning kicks etc plus stipe has never faced a striker with that style and that reach of jones isn’t the same as fighting DC
No one would be talking about his age how big Jones prior to this fight he was the greatest ever ever ever and people showing in droves to watch him beat Jones and says he got beat by now about his age. He doesn’t have it anymore. Excuses excuses, excuses, and Jones beats Tom. You guys will pull another great white out of your ass
Jones will attack that surgically repaired knee which also is the side he leaves out, destroying that knee will take away his power and speed and it’s the easiest attack Jones can do at distance
Excuses, excuses, excuses!! Had John Jones lost you haters would all be rejoicing.🤣 John Jones kicked his ass like all the others and Tom the hype Job Aspinal is no different okay. Jon deserves tens of millions for any such fight and he earned that right. Can't say that for hype Job Aspinal who knocks bums out for a living😄😄😄😄💯
I swear to god people are going to say I’m crazy, but watch the fight back. Jon pretty quickly in the fight realized Stipe is way way past his prime and was fighting like a literal bum. Jon purposefully allowed Stipe to land some shots and drug the fight out way longer than it needed to be to avoid hearing how bad a decision it was to make this fight. He tried his best inside that octagon to make Stipe look good without actually putting himself in danger. That’s why immediately when the post fight interview started he just talked about how good Stipe was in there. This man’s a master manipulator and gas lighter. Dude tried to gaslight all of us watching that fight
The two guys who I reckon could actually punish Tom for his lacklustre boxing defense would be Pavloich and Ngannou. And, well, we all saw what happened to Pav and we will probably never see Ngannou.
The reason jones was able to stay away from stipe because stipe is slower than a turtle on Xanax
Stipe's Stand-Up ... I don't even need to say it, do I? Aspinall's a Horse of a Different Color ...
Stipe doesn't LOVE the Game ... He does his thing ... Aspinall's a Martial Artist ... It's an Entirely Different Thing Altogether ...
Tom likes to move forward which plays into Jon's hands.
@@Dru2037 That doesn't matter when you have no power in them ...
For as slow as stipe was he was in the right place pretty often.. not enough but he still got in a few good shots
I think a strange point people are completely ignoring is that whenever Stipe decided to simply not just sit there eating kicks and went forward to pressure Jon. His ONLY answer to forward pressure was literally turning his back and running away caution to the wind. Just run away and restart at kicking range and there goes Stipe doing nothing until he feels like pressuring again (Which his corner was begging him to do). Now can anyone really look at that and say confidently: "Oh yeah Aspinall, Volkov or even Pav would fall prey for something like that and just give up the pressure" When Volkov was facing Pavlovich. He needed to establish a strong jab and straights while keeping himself away to deter his advances. All Jones had to do vs Stipe was turn his back and run back to kicking range. I don't understand how this performance gives people confidence.
Jones fans have low IQ and are disingenuous because they project themselves onto Jones' success, that's why they'll never be fair (and will continue to claim Jones would win easily while he ducks Aspinall)
Perfectly said.
People are arguing about tom, but to me, there is not a single hw with some wrestling skills who would lose against jones, not in the top 5
All time, Jon jones is the goat but current jon jones is getting starched by Tom in 1-2 rounds in my humble opinion. Jon looked good against stipe but Stipe looked TERRIBLE. If stipe said fuck it and applied pressure for the whole first round it might have been a very different fight.
Those few moments where stipe landed some shots, Tom would do more damage and if Jon does that running away defensive thing, Tom will chase him down. I genuinely don’t even think it would be a close fight 5:03 this part right here, Tom aspinall is getting a finish
Exactly! Francis would've just kept chasing him until he caught him clean.
@@Warpig9 Not even chasing, Francis is not only either taller or exact same height but him and Jon have the same reach. This tall man defence of fully extending his arms to run away is not doing anything. Francis best tool remains a really nasty check hook he does when the opponent is trying to get away. In a striking bout he's cooked. There's literally no argument that can be made about it based on any of Jon's past fights spawning the last 5yrs.
The truth isn’t as hard as I am when I see a Che notification
Nice to see you Mr tzu
The majority of his predictions are wrong. He previously said Khamzat was trash, now he's acting like he's always claimed that Khamzat was the best middle weight.
@@mrt445 don’t talk about my king mma Che like that ever again
@@garfrockbreadtroll always nice to meet a fan
@@Timonathonyeah thats right!
Tom Aspinal walks around 13 lbs heavier than Jones. This whole "he's 30 lbs bigger" thing is a Jones quote.
you realize that he literally just weighed in at about 20lbs heavier than Jones this past weekend as the backup fighter?
20lbs is a huge deal especially when most of Jon’s weight is fluff because he’s not built like a heavyweight.
Tom’s size advantage would be substantial not to mention his age.
There's a difference between walk around weight and fighting weight...
What's your source for that?
remember stipe like to say that ngannou was 50lbs heavier than stipe. it's just mma exaggeration
Tom normally weighs 255 while Jon fights at his best at 225. Jon got up to 235 against stipe while looking a little slower and still giving up 20 pounds to Tom
bro coulda got new teeth if jones just took a lil less steroids
Guy isn't planning a beauty pageant fortunately. Valid opinions l hear
lmao i was thinking why he buying bitcoin if he won, fix your teeth shoulda been first thing said
Big Tom finishes Jon “💉💊👩🤛🤰🚗🏃” Jones inside 2 rounds
Your such a stupid little man. How did you come up with that
Forgot the lgbt flag bro.
@ true that
and where's the duck? :)
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the hard truth about jones vs aspinall is that it won't happen. jones will retire rather than get smoked by tom, i just hope they strip him first 'cos he doesn't deserve to retire as champion if he avoided fighting the #1 contender
Jones will just vacate the belt and fight pereira , he wont retire. its a big money fight and much easier for him.
@@jass2375 dana said pretty unequivocally that jon won't be fighting pereira during the post-fight for 309 though, he pretty much said fight tom or fight nobody
It looks like a different hype angle to me...Instead of insults and aggression he's avoiding and then he'll do it
White canned Periera
Jones says he won't retire
Jones gets the money that's worth possibly losing for, why wouldn't he?
@@MiggsMultiplelol no I think Jon is legitimately ducking. I don't think it's even negotiation. I think he will just ask for a number they won't give. He asking for "fvk you" money in more than one way. The money asked for will be a fu to to the ufc and fans. Lol. It's all his way of refusing to fight Tom. Figures he can just fight Alex for an easier fight and get paid lots still.
@@wolfgangrecordings you can never trust anything Dana says. He'll turn on a dime and call you stupid for remembering things he's said in public
It’s not disrespectful to say Stipe looked old, slow, washed and lost. If anything, it’s respectful towards the Stipe of old and how good he once was whilst Jones fans try to overvalue this win like Stipe was Elite. Not even the goat of the division is going to perform great being closer to 45 than 40, retired for 4 years and coming off of a KO loss. Always will be a legend though.
So Tom’s fans are not overvaluing his wins over Curtis and Sergei?
@ entirely different situation it’s not even relevant to what I said at all..
@@iOwnASubaru it's very relevant. You want to criticize Jon's opponents but not Tom's opponents.
@ I didn’t even bring up Tom. And anyways Jones is the sitting champion and opted to fight a retired old man, Tom is the defending interim champion and has beaten everyone in his division, his only fight that makes sense and is deserves is Jon Jones. I don’t really get what you mean
@ Jon vs Stipe was contractually agreed long before Tom was in the title picture, true or false?
Fedor is a better HW than Jones bc at 220 lbs he has beaten so many guys that had nearly 50 lbs on him
That's not even comparable man.
Every hw champ in the ufc history is a better hw than jones, who did jones has beaten at hw? The most favorable matchup for him in the ufc and a 42 yo retired legend..
@@groscaramelmou2583 Clearly.
@@groscaramelmou2583Nah, that's a dumb answer, the real reason why it is not comparable is because Jon doesn't have Fedors power. But if you think you know Jon Jones wins to everyone on Hw except Aspinall
@EG-mw8kp very true bro atleast someone has some sense left l. john beat gane fair and square. realistivally John Jones beat every heavyweight anyday. only tom and Sergei Pavlovich can give him a competitive fight
Fedor weighs 240
I wouldn’t say Dominick Reyes was any more skilled than Jones in any one martial art (either than Boxing, which I think Aspinall is more skilled than Jones is as well) but the fact that he was so much faster really helped him in that aspect.
lets be honest Reyes is a bum
@ A ‘bum’ that beat Jon Jones.
@@Kaisukiiiand he beat jon.
@@gamessportsandmore3371 jon jones didnt take him seriously though, Jon Jones would beat him up if he actually was taking him seriously
Jones adjusted to the speed in 2 rounds and won
Franchis vs Aspinall is the biggest heavyweight fight. Both with insane power.
It could be... But Aspinall is just younger, faster, sharper. Francis definitely can, but if the match drags it likely goes to Tom.
Don't see aspinal doing well in that fight lol Francis takedown defense incredibly improved and his ko power is unmatched he will likely get slept
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Stop being gay for him, dude
who wouldve thought a 41 year old MMA/Fire Fighter would have aged well
dc a 41 year old mma/food guy did well against Stipe in their trilogy
@@joeswanson5486food guy😂😂😂
Stipe should have known he was at a major disadvantage and gone ooga booga mode from the bell. He should have been lunging at Jones swinging haymakers from the hips with every ounce of power he had. He needed to fight like Michael Chandler on PCP.
and jones takes him down with him getting off balance chasing him
he would have gassed out, he was too old to pose any threat
Dumb take . That plays into Jones game
@@tomig_9 if they fought they way they just did 100 times, Stipe is winning 0 times. If they fought 100 times and Stipe spazzed, I'd say he flukes out a good 4-5 wins out of 100
What is "Ooga Booga mode"?
MMA Che good analysis. I am in my late 40s. From my experience power is not the last thing to go. I think the saying sometimes confuses strength and power. Power is generated from speed more than muscular strength. That's why you see boxers are typically skinny with good abs but not huge muscles. They want to generate power through speed like snapping strikes like a rubber band. As you age those rubber bands age and they can't keep up. You can still be pretty strong though. I could probably still bench press what I could 25 years ago if you gave me 6 months to lift and get back into it. But could the current version of myself "beat down" the 24 yr old version of myself? No.
This is a solid take
There are different kinds of power punches
Some are about Accuracy
Some are about Timing
And those go quicker then raw power
Like Conor vs Rumble
I think they call it muscle elasticity.
I learned why Jones didn’t want smoke with Ngannou
Watch the Gane vs Ngganou fight Jones has the best distance management and would keep his range and tire Francis out. But Francis is still dangerous and can ko him.
@@no_going_back8456 Keep his distance just like he did against reyes and santos against a guy who is bigger than him with the same long limbs?
@@DravkatRakhmonessishe did not train for those fights
@@tanaka5395 What's more likely is that he was off peds, but whatever
Stipe looked like he was 55
He lasted longer than gane who probably beats aspinall lmao
@@Follow.m3.for.mor3I want whatever you're smoking
@@Follow.m3.for.mor3No grappling Gane😂😂, knocked down by tai tuivasa😂
@@matthewr956tuivasa still beats aspinal
@@joeswanson5486Aspinall easily beat Pavlovich and Volkov, who both destroyed Tuivasa.
This was the most level headed and thought out perspective on this situation that I have heard. Very well done 👍
Any time you think Jon is going to have a hard fight, he steam rolls the guys. It's the fights you think 'Oh boy, this is gonna be a waste" that he struggles. The guys steps up, or "pulses up", to the occasion.
He is so fast with the grappling early at heavyweight. Before the action starts he is on a body lock and BOOM. Dude is down getting smashed or passed. I think his work with Gordon Ryan has really paid off. He is so good at using his range and not getting hit. He won't get in boxing range often as he uses teep and kicks to keep you at range.
I can totally see Tom blitzing him and ending it soon, but I really won't be surprised if Jones just man handled him. It's the fight to make, but I'm leaning towards Jones at this point. He is the closest to Mayweather of our sport as we got, the guy just doesn't lose and Aspinall has lost multiple times already.
@@mikerelva6915Two of his fights were controversial. Especially Reyes fight and Gustafasson first fight, and are the most debated of all his fights. To beat Jones you need a top striker like them with great takedown defence. Both Gus and Reyes had crisp boxing and was tagging Jones a lot. I think you need more than that to beat Jones. You have to be more creative with your strikes and not a head hunter all the time. This is why Jones is In a position where top strikers In this era have bad ground game. So you could say he has all the advantage In a fight with Alex or a rematch with Gane.
However, If their takedown defence have Improved a lot and are able to keep Jones on the feet like Gus and Reyes did first time, Jones will be In more trouble than he has ever been. Because they are not just top strikers but also creative Kickerboxers and Muay Thai fighters that can close the distance with him on the feet. They would target his leggs a lot more. And that something Jones is not very used to. He is used to opponents target his chin most of all. With them he will have to deal with their body kicks, legg kicks, knees and elbows. While time will just try to box with him. Which can do the job now that he is older and slower. Hence why he wants that very big fat paycheck incase he loses.
@@mikerelva6915 Aspinal has that speed that could catch him. That's about it. I assume he will be trying to knock him out from the start. If Gane and Alex had his takedown defense, there is no doubt In my mind Jones would have been ko'd or tko'd In the championship rounds. Because they are not headhunters and would target different part of his body kicks because as World champion Kickboxers and Muay Thai fighters they are use to attack with punches and kicks In different ways but also used to being attacked that way. It pose a different challenge to Jones then what he is used to. He is used to stretch his hands to protect his face. With them on the feet he has to worry about every part of his body.
The dramatic difference between 37 and 42 is only appreciable after you've lived it. For me, there was less difference between 18 & 38.
You get older @CybertruckCity
Your body just starts to depreciate in truly noticeable ways
@@AQBPlaysthat’s real. 🤣
One thing people dont remember is that jones cranked on stipe's elbow like he did glover. that could have taken some pop out of his right arm.
And the hellbows and the body kicks did slow him down
He had no pop from the start bell
@Mokuteke he did, but jones avoided most of his punches. Jones took stipe down and rode him for over 3 and a half minutes raining elbows on stipe. stipe used a lot of energy on his back when he made every effort to get up but couldn't. this was a masterclass
If you won't fight the best in the division because there is larger than normal chance you won't win, you dont deserve to wear the belt of that division. This is about who's the better fighter, not who has the better resume
Idk if it was just me but Jon seemed a bit slower than he used to move
He definitely is a lot slower, even during the Gane fight. He's no longer in his prime. I don't see him beating Aspinall or Ngannou right now.
That happens when you age and put on weight
what are you serious I can't believe it I thought a 38 year old would exactly how he did when he was 28
He looked way faster than in the Ciryl Gane fight, at least.
Jon jones striking has always been slow to me
0:30 not some mew front teeth? Or is that all you want for Christmas?
😂😂😂
First round finish. Tom is a lot bigger , stronger and faster as well as being really skilled. And Jon knows it. He doesn’t like fighting guys with a chance to beat him
did you just start watching mma like 2 years ago? What about when he fought prime Rampage? Rashad Evans? TRT Vitor? Prime Shogun? Machida? DC? Gus?
Dude has fought many many guys that could’ve beaten him, they just didn’t.
@@FrigidHeightsAll fighters are different. It's true Tom hasn't faced anyone like Jones, but that goes both ways. Because every fighters has their unique styles. And throughout his career Jones has fought and beaten lot of fighters who were all different from each other. Of course Gustafson first fight and Reyes are the most debated topic In his career. Even to this day. And he didn't want a rematch with Reyes. Let's not forget that.
@@FrigidHeightsget out of here with your facts
@@FrigidHeightsQuinton, Evans, Vitor are Small than Jones.
Being bigger and stronger does not always win fights
Great analysis Che. However, I have yet to hear you sing "O Hino" by Fernandinho in flawless Brazilian Portuguese, so I'm not convinced that you really are much of a Charles Oliveira fan.
Charles’ walkout song is so good
Jon thinking: Tom, your eyes are as blue as the ocean, and im lost at sea
Gay
Jon definitely has the tools to beat Tom but at the same time Jon has the tools to beat almost every fighter but if ANY fighter beats him rn it's Tom aspinall or Curtis blaydes
bro is really taking credit for my slip
Do I think Jon CAN beat Aspinall? yes of course. He's incredible, which pains me to say.
Do I think he would? Fuck no. Aspinall has great striking, is much larger and faster than anyone else in the division now and makes adjustments so quickly during the fight that it's tough to find things that might work on him. Jon's also a chronic tape watcher and Aspinall has... not a lot of tape to watch tbh. He absolutely vaporized the division in short order.
I'm just saying I get why Jon doesn't want to fight him.
1:47 disagree his Dominick Reyes fight he looked pretty average compared to how he usually fights we don’t see his unorthodox fighting style there
Probably was bored and not taking him seriously, and it almost cost him.
I'ma Charles fan too but having a giant cut and then two of the same posters of him on the walk is crazy
Aspinall became INTERIM CHAMPION by destroying active heavyweights ranked 3rd, 4th, 5th ,7th, 8th in their prime, not a retired old man who hasn't been in the ring for 3.5 years.
Duck Jones is a coward.
Jon became champion by destroying the number one ranked HW. Not the 3rd, 4th, 5th, 7th or 8th. And those rankings you’ve listed are current.
Spivak was not ranked in the top 10 ahead of his fight with Tom. Tybura was 10th
U must be a newbie, cause Jones finished the number one contender for the title,c'mon man all cap
@@karimw.9954I said the same thing,this guy has not been watching for long.Been watching since day one
@@karimw.9954 ?
Do you mean for hw or lhw?
Because i give you the fact he beat gane, the Nr. 1 guy in the division at the time
But he did not deserve his original shot at shogun, the only impressive win he had at that time was ryan bader
@@tobiassawall7845 did Renato deserve a fight against Islam?
“Hands up” is a bit of a fallacy in mma-those little gloves don’t offer near the protection of boxing gloves and punches get past them pretty easily. Slipping is more effective. *Edit-unless you’re poking eyes of course 😅
at 5:00 if pereira were in that situation that would be his best chance to beat jones
Great boxing, insane speed, hard to take down, and bigger than him is basically Jon Jones kryptonite
If Jon was a natural HW he probably beats Tom ngl. especially in his prime.
@@FrigidHeightsWhat does that even mean. He had the hw frame from the beginning with his height and long limbs, so he is technically a natural hw.
@@DravkatRakhmonessis not at all, as explained in this video. Jones doesn’t hold heavyweight well at all. Guys like Gane, Aspinall, Ngannou, are just naturally 250+ and muscular without needing to bulk. They’re just massive.
Jones had to bulk heavily to get to 250 and in doing so had a lot of fluff on him, he has a lanky, wiry, frame. hence the name “Bones”. He’s not built like a heavyweight the way Tom is. Tom could absolutely never make LHW in a million years.
Ignoring jones 6 inch reach advantage?? Extending both arms is how he kept that punch from landing 😊
6 inch reach advantage equal to 3 inch reach advantage due to how they meassure reach, you know that right?
Bro I had to subscribe when you said your power went out I don’t know why I laughed but w video
Make a breakdown on Yan vs Figgy
I already did, it's a members only video
@@MMAChe.boooooooooo shame this man shame him
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@@N54htmareif people are dumb enough to pay he has to reward them somehow
I think the weight will be a big issue for Jon when it comes to grappling with Tom, but when it comes to the striking, it's a different thing. Jones' kicks can hurt any heavyweight on the planet, no matter how big they are. Tom will be severely compromised after eating a few of those kicks to the body. But at the same time, Tom is much faster with his hands and one shot can put Jones down. The thing about Tom is that he's never been tested and Jones will test him. How Tom performs in the championship rounds in a mystery It's such an intriguing fight. I hope it happens.
Tom isn't gonna make it to the championship rounds if it goes past two rounds
i think aspinall will win hes just too big and fast but obviously mma is a unpredictable sport
I don't think Jon's kicks will be as reliable when facing someone like Aspinall. Tom's use of lateral movement and feints makes just chipping away at him a lot tougher than someone like Stipe. He constantly shifts from side to side, dips in and out of range and feints to force reactions.
I'd recommend checking out Mighty Mouse's breakdown of Aspinall vs Pavlovich for a pretty in depth look at it.
The question really is can Jon survive the first couple of rounds, and can Tom keep up that high energy fight style past R2. Though if Tom can somehow keep that pace up deep into the fight (I doubt he can), then Jon is probably in for a real rough time.
That was a great analysis. Thank you
That mic makes it look like Charles Olivera's head is in your lap
You're wrong about the sequence when Stipe lunged in with punches and Jones stepped backed with his chin in the air. Jones is the best at measuring distance in a fight, he had Stipe measured, all he had to do was back away and reset. You don't want to step back with your chin high if a guy is in range, Stipe was never in range...
Perfect breakdown of the situation. Even chael said it the other day “there’s not a single man walking the earth who weighs 30lbs less than me that I can’t beat in a fight”
To piggyback on that, I hate when people seem to think heavyweights are all just terrible and easy to beat. While they definitely aren’t as technically skilled, the size and strength makes up for it. Thats why you don’t see long reigning heavyweights, you can lose to a less skilled fighter if they just catch you with something big or rip a submission with crazy strength. If heavyweights were trash, then the ripped 205ers would just move up and dominate the division but that doesn’t happen.
"all the normal stuff" indeed XD
Excellent video and analysis my friend! Many key points here that let's us predict the possible outcome of their fight!
Candle light bit made me laugh out loud
Bro switched to the candle like a G instant subscription lol
I’ve been telling a friend of mine for years jon is not a heavyweight…maybe if there was a 225 division he would be perfect there
Skills vs Hype!
I still think aspinall's grappling is largely untested, he's good offensively but how good is he defensively, stuffing takedowns from spivac is nice and all but he's not faced anyone with nearly as good wrestling as jon, someone who had no issues taking down a literal olympic bronze medalist
Sheer size and athleticism makes a huge difference between DC and Tom. That same Bronze medalist couldn’t take down stipe in their third fight? Do you think ngannou is a better wrestler than stipe? Because he looked pretty good in that last fight grappling-wise. I know I’m just asking rhetoricals but I think that shows the weakness of your point. It’s all just mma math that you could easily argue from either side
@@olivermalcolm7076very intelligent takes
@@olivermalcolm7076 That was 42 year old dc who blew his back from sneezing tho, I get strength plays into it but jones doesnt just have wrestling his grappling(judo,ground and pound, jui jitsu) as a whole is just so slick
@@ItaDapeeza Jones couldnt take down reyes. Not as simply as jon jones make it out to be dominick reyes and thiago santos arent olympic level wrestlers jon couldnt do shit to them
@@ItaDapeeza firstly, that’s a fair assessment of the dc fight (age was a huge factor for sure) I also think dc at heavyweight was a factor. Much like Jon he’s not built for that weight class and only ever wrestle fucked Derek Lewis who has no grappling. I’d argue that stipe looked similar levels of slow/old last week as DC did in his trilogy fight. I’m not trying to discredit Jon (although I’m not at all a fan of his personality) his grappling is great and I’m super excited to see how coach Gordon Ryan makes a difference in a potential Aspinal fight. I just want to reiterate, although it would be silly to argue Tom is a better wrestler, I don’t actually think he needs to be to beat Jon. Tom’s basic scramble ability and the ability to find a whizzer like the spivac fight are good signs imo that would be silly to put to luck or something of that sort. Long story short, although size/strength is often beaten by considerable skill, size/strength with basic skill can absolutely be a challenge (see Stipe vs Ngannou 2)
Fuck me I hope we see the fight lol, if I’m way off after the fact you’ll have some juicy receipts lol
“With candlelight”😂
I think you are selling Jon short. I think it’s fair to say Jon will not get submitted and he will not get taken down. I also don’t see a world where Tom wins a decision vs Jon. I just think with all that muscle there’s no way he will keep up with Jon’s cardio in championship rounds and I don’t really see him winning all three of the first 3 rounds. After rewatching the Arlovski fight I think Jon finds a way to stay out of harms way for rounds 1/2 and chips away at the body and gas tank of Tom and maybe edges out the 3rd with a late round takedown and some elbows before taking over in championship rounds. Also I think you’re selling Jon’s defense a bit short. He has probably the best defense we’ve ever seen and even if his speed is a bit slower than his prime his instincts are still the best in the game. Stipe fight included you almost never see him get cracked, he’s always moving with the shots and 7” reach over Tom will definitely help. Maybe Tom blitzes in and cracks Jon early but if he doesn’t get him out of there first 8 minutes or so I think Jon wins a legendary fight that goes down in history. That said Jon weighing in at 235 means he could pretty easily cut back down to LHW and challenge Alex for his strap maybe in early summer before fighting Tom at MSG in November for his final fight. Also I don’t think Tom will be able to blitz in on Jon like everyone seems to think, Jon is world class in all 3 styles of wrestling and his Greco trips and throws are literally made for someone who blitzes in ntm adding gable Stevenson (probably the p4p best freestyle and folkstyle wrestler on the planet currently) to his team just an iron sharpens iron type thing.
I reckon that the lack of tape is the biggest issue, Jon needs a solid game plan for Aspinall but there's just too many unknowns for his team to do that. Also, can you imagine Jon taking a calf kick from Aspinall.. it would snap him ! 🤣
What do you think about JJ using these fights to warm up for Tom. He didn’t fight for a long time. You definitely don’t want to take on Tom first off after a long break.
Maybe my age is showing but I think you have not seen vintage Bones, he goes at peoples strengths negates those and either uses those skills to beat you or he changes his game plan instantly throughout the fight to adjust. No one does that better, you are a victim of recency bias I believe. If you think Tom has decent elbows, good luck on not taking a few of those from Jon. Has Aspinall faced anywhere near the competition of Bones? Please I heard how fast and mobile Gane was before that fight as well.
Jones looked like his joints were rusted to the bone compared to his 205 self and you could hear him creaking every time he moved, but Stipe somehow simultaneously looked like he was fighting underwater and on the moon. Aspinall batters both guys who showed up that night in the same night imo
Jon’s natural best is between 220-225. His rehydration weight against Gus for the second fight was within that range.
Excellent video
Tom needs Jon in order to get the big money. If Tom is the stud his fans claim he is then he should be the reason people pay money no matter who he fights. Jerry Cooney 2024. Dudes always looking to us for the big paycheck. Starve him. Make your own way. He is an overrated fighter who will be forgotten in two years.
This vid explains all my thoughts completely another banger once again 🫡
Jones upper body looked bigger than stipe. I was surprised because jones was 11 lbs lighter.
Doubt it. You unironically look bigger with darker skin.
I like aspinall but tbh Jones has a point the whole Francis thing didn't happen because of money and Dana being difficult with both fighters trying to negotiate for more is more the point. I don't even like Jones but giving aspinall too much confidence could end badly. Guy is an absolute beast but i still think jones can scrape it if it goes past 3 rounds. Apart from Francis or a cross into boxing to box Tyson,usyk or dubois Tom is probably his perfect last fight in the UFC so i don't think he's wrong asking 20-40$ mil for his last 2 fights then boosting across to PFL if he wants to try big Francis and retiring. If he beats tom on drugs or not he'll be definitively the absolute goat of the UFC wether you like him or not. Tom is a great fighter but hasn't got that sociopathic do anything to win look about him like Jones does.
Stipe did not look slower than usual. People just didn’t watch stipe
I hate the steroid argument, most pro athletes are just on it. It’s underrated how easy it is to pass these tests. Not defending jones but it’s just how it is
No, there is no evidence to suggest your claim
Seems like Jones have had a very hard time to pass those tests then ;)
@@techjuvas Oh I agree drug tests are a IQ test and obviously bro isn’t smart (his past is interesting)
The candle lighting actually seems better
Let's just hope it doesnt do the same thing that Mayweather vs Pacquiao did and take too long. I wanna see these dudes fresh.
Guys this fight has been unofficially announced because Dana has said publicly that he doesn't want Jon to fight Pereira because he knows Alex would lose and that would be diminishing his future stardom, so with that out of the way I think Jones would 100% take the last payday, even if he'll lose. (like Stipe did).
Jones’s defence has always been really bizarre. He has a really good chin and a good ability to roll with shots but his boxing defence in particular has always been fucking horrendous. I’m not sure how he’s managed to get away with it for so long.
Jon has the skill to beat Aspinall and the skill to get paid what wants. Jon is going to hurt Tom. A knee and kicks to the body, spinning elbows, every legal dirty maneuver he knows. He knows plenty. We have to pay for him to exhibit that skill and expend all that energy. Tom has knockout power, but I would have bet Jon over Francis for the same reason. Some fighters are more dangerous because they don’t give a shit about you, your career, family, wife, nothing you love.
This is the most glaze ever pls never comment ever again
@@Mokutekeso you can read and provide feedback? Amazing
The thing is its hard to compete in MMA, now imagine also being a fireman....
I think Tom's background is catch wrestling. He trained in BJJ after he started with catch wrestling and boxing as a child. But he knicks people out so much and so quickly, ge doesn't showcase his wrestling and grappling skills as much. It would be interesting to really test his wrestling against someone like Jones, who's known as an elite wrestler.
I generally hate MMA youtube channels. I say that with a passion, and my dislike of them is well documented. But I actually enjoy your takes and thoughts on things. Well done
I get what youre saying when you say Jones was probably on PEDs for the first Gustafsson fight. But to be fair Gus was probably on PEDs as well, since that fight was before usada, its only after they started testing when a lot of fighters declined, except for Jones who tested positive like 3 times after that. So thats why i still stand by Gus in the rematch, Jones cheated and the fight shoulndt even happen
The difference is that jones got caught 4 times for ABUSING peds, not guss.
Every pro athlete is on peds, but the usage is controled, they cant abuse of it if they dont wana get caught, but jones, even if he is the most privileged fighter ever, got caught 4 times.
So no matter how much guss was on peds this night, bet on the fact that jones got at least double dose
Thanks for the video, MMA CHE
1) Aspinal is winning if he comes self confident and aggressive
2) Aspinal loses if he doubts too much - Jon will piece him up with technic
7:37 Pereiras timing
The way i see this fight going is, jones is well rounded , elbows , take downs, kicks as we saw, jones frustrates ppl because you never know at what time jones will kick, or take down, or elbow but tom doesn't have to be bettter or more well rounded than Jones to beat him. All tom has to do is time jones and thats all she wrote. I highly doubt jones will survive a brutal haymaker to his chin. Jones best but still risky defense is to stay at range, stay away and beat tom by points but I highly doubt Jones... despite his kicks and elbows will be able to to escape without something landing on him. Tom is a volume puncher. My prediction is, Tom will knock jones out in the 2nd round
Tom is from Atherton, not far from Wigan... Which is the birthplace of catch wrestling. I don't agree that Jon has a better chance with the takedowns etc. if two black belts of a similar level go at it, I'll always pick the bigger more athletic one to win
Jones' kicks were great, but his hand speed looked slow to me. Tom WILL check Jon's chin. We will see if it holds up. I want to see Tom in the 3rd - 5th rounds. Could get interesting with Jon's elite cardio and championship experience.
Che ? That wasn’t the same Gustafson that faced Jones the second time around . Gustafson had no movement . The one thing he did well in the first fight were the feints and constantly in and out movements. Gustafson was just walking down Jon Jones slowly( very little movement). Not the same Gustafson
Can’t wait to see Jon knockout Tom in 2025..!
That’s exactly what’s gonna happen
They sleep on Jones , they think it’s a walk in the Park for Tom . John’s best weapon is the ability to adapt, stay out of harms way and use unorthodox striking .he looks for the path of least resistance, very Tactical.
Not like the rest of these HW Lugs that just sit in the pocket whaling at each other till one lands a big shot .
We don’t want nothing but the Aspinal fight the world’s gonna erupt when we get the aspen fight
Vs jones bigger then any Conner fight Tom vs Jon
We know about Tom's speed and power, but that's about all we know for sure..So it's hard to have a good idea what would happen in that fight..Jon will certainly make it a distance fight, spamming kicks, jabs, clinch and maybe a take down here and there..Sitting down on a punch against Tom takes extreme courage..But if you don't, Tom will take some shots to knock you out quickly..But, Jon could certainly win that fight, I would lean Aspinall though..
He didn't train for the first Gustafsson or the Reyes fight. Really pissed off Greg Jackson.
Jones vs stipe is a fight that should have taken place 12 years ago.
Stipe is 43 years old for hod sake
12 years ago when Jon was a newly crowned LHW champion and Stipe had less than 10 fights under his belt?
Lil bro who’s “I” you mean Jackson’s 100k.
@someguy701 nah it costs a pretty penny to appear on stream with me
someguy701 knows whats up.
@@Jacksonmma123 🫥
Terrible take because people don’t realize he makes people freeze up due to his tools like low kicks oblique kicks teeps spinning kicks etc plus stipe has never faced a striker with that style and that reach of jones isn’t the same as fighting DC
No one would be talking about his age how big Jones prior to this fight he was the greatest ever ever ever and people showing in droves to watch him beat Jones and says he got beat by now about his age. He doesn’t have it anymore. Excuses excuses, excuses, and Jones beats Tom. You guys will pull another great white out of your ass
Then you haven’t looked at any mma media besides Dana’s interviews if you think nobody said anything about his age
Great honest breakdown. That’s why there are weight classes.
Jones will attack that surgically repaired knee which also is the side he leaves out, destroying that knee will take away his power and speed and it’s the easiest attack Jones can do at distance
8;34 isnt volk like 5'7 with a 6'0 reach? he certainly should be able to guard like topuria, more of a skill thing than anatomy
Dudes 6’4 he’s a natural hw lmao
We don’t want nothing but the Aspinal fight
Excuses, excuses, excuses!! Had John Jones lost you haters would all be rejoicing.🤣 John Jones kicked his ass like all the others and Tom the hype Job Aspinal is no different okay. Jon deserves tens of millions for any such fight and he earned that right. Can't say that for hype Job Aspinal who knocks bums out for a living😄😄😄😄💯
You should just film with candlelight from now on
I actually agree, I think John is just being smart and getting money, but lets also realize he literally has a waiver to cheat
I swear to god people are going to say I’m crazy, but watch the fight back. Jon pretty quickly in the fight realized Stipe is way way past his prime and was fighting like a literal bum. Jon purposefully allowed Stipe to land some shots and drug the fight out way longer than it needed to be to avoid hearing how bad a decision it was to make this fight. He tried his best inside that octagon to make Stipe look good without actually putting himself in danger. That’s why immediately when the post fight interview started he just talked about how good Stipe was in there. This man’s a master manipulator and gas lighter. Dude tried to gaslight all of us watching that fight
Bones beats Tom everyday
Gane vs Tom
Winner fights Bones
The two guys who I reckon could actually punish Tom for his lacklustre boxing defense would be Pavloich and Ngannou. And, well, we all saw what happened to Pav and we will probably never see Ngannou.
If Jones won't take the Aspinall fight, make a PFL vs UFC fight.