I took an art course many many years ago about alkaline and acid levels in dyes. We would do experiments very similar to what you are doing. one thing I do remember is the paper on the top when using baking soda always seemed to turn more green than the other papers in the same solution. It had something to do with the amount of alkaline from the baking soda rising in the bubbles to the top surface of the mixture. that coated the top paper with more alkaline then the other papers. alkaline had a greenish blue color and therefore made the papers more green in color. also along the edges of the other papers there would be a slightly more green colors, also because the bubbles would attach there but not be able to reach the inside of the papers as easily. if that makes sense. the more baking soda added to a acidic solution such as grape juice the greater the changes in the papers and fabrics we used. The papers turned out beautiful.
Wow Debbie, thank you so much for sharing that information. It makes more sense now. The last paper, that turned green, was sitting alone in the dye bath for at least 15 minutes and that was probably enough time for soda to reach all of it and make it green. I'm testing a different approach at the moment, spraying every paper individually and letting it dry naturally. I hope I get more green papers that way, because I like the green one the best. Thanks again ❤️❤️❤️
this is the best paper dying video I have seen and I’ve seen a lot. Your instructions are very precise and very very interesting and I think all of the colours are great. The texture whilst a little bit grainy and does sound a bit rough with your fingers touching it would be interesting for something so it’s still not a failure. I’m going to try and do some things myself experiments not with grapes because I don’t have any but I might try it with a few other things and I like to try the rust. Thank you very much.
I loved this so much!! Excellent job and it is so satisfying to watch someone do such quality experiments! I do this sort of thing for myself too but now I want to try with fresh picked grapes to follow the way you did! Beautiful colors!! Very helpful video! I couldn’t take my eyes off for even a second! Thank you!
Thank you for creating this video - your explanations & visuals are so clear. I appreciate the work you did so that we can create beautiful papers using natural dyes. Faye
This experiment was so exciting to watch because you shared each step allowing us to anticipate the results. They are all so lovely! Thank you for sharing this process!
Thank you so much! Yes, more green papers would've been great! I continued the experiment and I'm hoping to figure it out soon. Thanks so much for watching and commenting. Much appreciated ❤️❤️❤️
Too much iron in second bath? rinse well so it won’t destroy the paper. Very nice colors. Maybe leave out a sample in bright light to see if it retains colors or if fugitive color. ❤
It’s been a year and a half since I made this video and I still have a few of the papers left. Purple, blue and yellow stayed the same. Green changed to yellow ochre within a week. Unfortunately, it wasn’t really stable. I got a nice stable green when I mixed yellow dye from pomegranate peel with blueberry dye. That one faded only a little bit and retained green hues. 😊❤️
Wow, Dragana !! I'm filming a results video for turmeric dying and will link to this video as inspiration 😀 your videos are so well organized, informative and enjoyable 👍
Oh, thank you so much! You're very kind for linking me. I appreciate that. I can't wait to watch your video. I've never tried turmeric so I'm very curious ❤️😊
OMG! You linked me!! This is so nice of you! I appreciate it so much! Loved your video and your experiments ! I never tried grapes, but I can't not try baking soda in every batch of coloring I make, this is so fun and unpredictable :D
Thank you😊, it was your suggestion that inspired me and it deserves a mention❤️. I'll try with blueberries as soon as I get some. At the moment, only frozen ones are available to buy and a bit expensive here. We have so much grape this year and I just had to try 😊❤️
@@Saacibo Yes, and it was a great idea! Oh, and I wanted to say that I don't soak my paper all night, I only dip it in the color bath and take it out. The color settles while drying and the dried color always different from the wet fresh one. It doesn't affect the vibrancy of the colors. Yet another experiment for you! lol
Thank you Dragana so much for this tutorial❣ I was searcing for dyeing papers with plants (nettles actually because I need green papers) and found your wonderfull channel. Subscribed. I’ll be watching your videos. Cheers from Finland!
Hello and welcome to the channel! Great to have more people from Finland! I'm really happy that you found the information useful. I was experimenting last year with many different plants because I needed green papers, too. So far, my conclusion is that blue and yellow dyes make the most stable green. I tried with blue grapes and soda bicarbonate. Papers turned green but didn't stay green for long. 😊❤️
Thank you❣ I really want to experiment dyeing with plants instead of using inks. I am waiting for a great success 😂😂 It is much more fun and somehow rewarding to dye with plants from the garden (or in front on our cow barn) instead of buying inks. @@Saacibo
After just watching your recent video from the March 2023, I just had to watch this one too. I could hardly wait to see the results! Lol The papers all turned out beautiful! I especially like the green one, but the yellow/gold ones are so pretty too. We have a massive grapevine of green grape over our garden shed roof - I wonder what colour they would make. When you dry your papers in the oven, what temp do you use, and do you put them on a cookie sheet? Yours dried so even, and smooth. Thanks again for all the info...you make it so easy to follow.😸
Thank you so much Anne! Oh, I enjoyed this experiment so much. I also liked the green papers but unfortunately they didn't stay green for too long. I'm afraid they all turned gold yellow after a month or so. Purple ones stayed purple. All I can say is that it's not easy to get green papers, unless you mix stable blue and yellow dyes, like I did in that other video with blueberries and pomegranates. I haven't tried with green grapes, so I can't say for sure. When I dry papers in the oven I use low heat heat, not too hot. I put the fan on, and I dry two at a time, that's how many I can fit on a tray. You can use cooking sheet to prevent them sticking to your tray. 😊❤️
Thanks for the info on drying the paper. Very weird about the green dyed papers turning yellow/gold. I wonder...have you ever tried fresh green tree leaves - like maple, birch, etc., or clover? Yes, the ones in the blueberry & pomegranate turned out nice. @@Saacibo
Thanks so much Rose! I'm very happy that you liked it. I didn't have to buy grapes, I used ones from my backyard, but I actually wanted to use blueberries and they're expensive here. I guess we can experiment with what we have easily available to us. ❤️❤️❤️
Bonjour, j'aime tant ces experiences avec les bains de couleurs pour les papiers 👍😍 j'ai aussi remarqué que le papier à dessin ou pour aquarelle prend mieux la couleur que le simple papier copie. Maintenant je me pose la question suivante : " avez-vous essayé ces bains avec le papier fait maison et reconstitué ? Je suis presque certaine qu'ils se teinteraient très bien à coup sûr 😅 mais je ne sais pas je n'ai pas encore réalisé mon propre papier 🕵️♂️😁. Merci pour ce partage très intéressant 👍🙏 Tres belle journée et bisous de France 😘
Hello! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I haven’t tried dyeing handmade papers with these baths because I was afraid they would fall apart. I would try adding the dye to the paper mixture instead of water before the papers are pressed. 😊
Your ideas of different ways of dying papers is fascinating me a lot 💜💙💚 and the outcome is more than amazing 😊 think I wanna dye papers tomorrow 😁 but probably I will use normal watercolor 😆
Hahaha, yes Steffi, watercolors are definitely easier and more consistent way of coloring paper. But, I was so curious, just had to try and I love the element of surprise 😊❤️😀
It would be useful to know something about the PH of your water. I have very alkaline water in my area, 9 or 10. Later if you get more specific in your experiments factor that in. Thanks for a fascinating and really different video!
This was a fascinating video. What do you think the colors wood be if you added a varying amount of vinegar to the solution? What color do you think they would have turned out?
My papers sometimes rip, too. Especially if the dye is warm or hot. It should be cold. I use various paper weights, 80gsm mostly, but also watercolor and sketching papers that are heavier, 120-250gsm
If the green paper was at the bottom, it may be due to a by-product of the bicarb reaction which has sunk to the bottom of the container. Stirring the solution and turning papers frequently might give you greener papers.
You're might be right about that. I'm in the process of trying again but this time I'm spraying the papers individually with the solution, and I keep shaking it before each application. Hopefully I'll get more consistent results 😊❤️
Thank you! I have wondered about using migrants with paper. Have you tried alum, which is used when dyeing fabric? Also, I do not have a grapevine and the supermarket only has the light reddish grapes, so do you think commercially produced grape juice would work? Thank you, again!😊
How did you dry these papers in the oven? That green one looks a lot like when I dye my avacado papers, I dry them singly in the oven, meaning, I do not pile them up. The side that is on top will get very dark while the underside will stay light. So I don't know if this helps you or not, but I love the results anyway.
Thank you so much Lisa! I dried them all singly, like you do, but the last one turned greener. I tried spraying all the papers individually first, leaving them stacked for couple of hours then spreading them flat to dry. And it worked, they all turned green. I think the residue from soda-bicarbonate sank to the bottom of the tray when I tried the first time. 😊❤️
The reason of such a difference in colour for the last batch might be because of the foam, I think. Dunno for sure, just guessing. I wonder how it all became after some time... I mean, did the paper discolour?
Purple remained the same and it’s been year and a half since I’ve dyed them. Green papers changed back to a yellow brown within a week. Yellow papers stayed the same.
Love the bluish colors. Interesting how the baking soda changed the color.
Yes, changing ph levels with baking soda gives unexpected results with some dyes. 😊❤️
I like how you aren't afraid to experiment 😮😮😮
I took an art course many many years ago about alkaline and acid levels in dyes. We would do experiments very similar to what you are doing. one thing I do remember is the paper on the top when using baking soda always seemed to turn more green than the other papers in the same solution. It had something to do with the amount of alkaline from the baking soda rising in the bubbles to the top surface of the mixture. that coated the top paper with more alkaline then the other papers. alkaline had a greenish blue color and therefore made the papers more green in color. also along the edges of the other papers there would be a slightly more green colors, also because the bubbles would attach there but not be able to reach the inside of the papers as easily. if that makes sense. the more baking soda added to a acidic solution such as grape juice the greater the changes in the papers and fabrics we used. The papers turned out beautiful.
Wow Debbie, thank you so much for sharing that information. It makes more sense now. The last paper, that turned green, was sitting alone in the dye bath for at least 15 minutes and that was probably enough time for soda to reach all of it and make it green. I'm testing a different approach at the moment, spraying every paper individually and letting it dry naturally. I hope I get more green papers that way, because I like the green one the best.
Thanks again ❤️❤️❤️
this is the best paper dying video I have seen and I’ve seen a lot. Your instructions are very precise and very very interesting and I think all of the colours are great. The texture whilst a little bit grainy and does sound a bit rough with your fingers touching it would be interesting for something so it’s still not a failure. I’m going to try and do some things myself experiments not with grapes because I don’t have any but I might try it with a few other things and I like to try the rust. Thank you very much.
You’re very welcome! Glad you enjoyed the video. It’s a lot of fun experimenting with dyes. Thanks so much for watching 😊❤️
I loved this so much!! Excellent job and it is so satisfying to watch someone do such quality experiments! I do this sort of thing for myself too but now I want to try with fresh picked grapes to follow the way you did! Beautiful colors!! Very helpful video! I couldn’t take my eyes off for even a second! Thank you!
You’re very welcome! Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you so much for watching and commenting 😊❤️
I love your experimenting, & how the colours turned out 😊
I'm so glad! Thank you very much for watching 😊❤️
Oh, how lucky you are to have such beauty close by. Thanks so much for sharing. I will have to buy some grapes from the grocer and try this.
You're most welcome! Thank you so much for watching and for your kind comment. I hope you have fun experimenting 😊❤️
Wow, they are all so gorgeous! Thanks for the video, I now know what to do with my grapes that I can't eat.
You're most welcome! I'm glad you liked the video. Thank you so much for watching and for your kind comment ❤️😊
Thank you for creating this video - your explanations & visuals are so clear. I appreciate the work you did so that we can create beautiful papers using natural dyes. Faye
Hello Faye! Thank you so much for watching my video and for your kind comment ❤️😊
The green one had more oxidation as it was on top. Great experiment thanks
Thank you! Cheers!❤️
They turned out beautiful.
Thank you so much 😊❤️
What a great experiment! Nice papers!
Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoyed it! ❤️😊
Love, love, love this❣️
Aww, thank you so much ❤️😊
Thal you for sharing this. Very interesting
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching 😊❤️
Beautiful papers
Thank you so much 😊❤️
Absolutely fantastic!!!!
Thank you so much 😊❤️
Great results, thanks for sharing your experiment.
You're very welcome! Thank you so much for watching and commenting! Much appreciated 😊❤️
This experiment was so exciting to watch because you shared each step allowing us to anticipate the results. They are all so lovely! Thank you for sharing this process!
You're most welcome! Thank you so much Deborah! I'm very happy that you liked the video. I enjoyed making it, too.😊❤️
Love your experiments with colouring your papers x
Thank you so much for watching! I'm glad you liked it ❤️😊
Fascinating!! Thanks for sharing!!❤
You're welcome! Thank you so much for watching 😊❤️
love this experiment, think when you did the second experiment I would have put a sheet of paper in when it 1st started rubbing with 1/2 tsp.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thanks for watching 😊❤️
Just awesome, awesome, awesome! I need to go buy some grapes for a wine journal I'm making. Thank you!
You’re so welcome! Thank you for watching and for your nice comment! 😊❤️
Thank you so much for sharing this information.
You're very welcome! Glad it was helpful!
🌼 Wonderful experiment! I would love all green as well but they are all nice
Thank you so much! Yes, more green papers would've been great! I continued the experiment and I'm hoping to figure it out soon. Thanks so much for watching and commenting. Much appreciated ❤️❤️❤️
Beautiful paper colors! What a great and simple idea with stunning results! Thanks.
I'm happy that you liked it! Thank you so much for watching and for your kind comment. ❤️😊
Too much iron in second bath?
rinse well so it won’t destroy the paper.
Very nice colors. Maybe leave out a sample in bright light to see if it retains colors or if fugitive color.
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It’s been a year and a half since I made this video and I still have a few of the papers left. Purple, blue and yellow stayed the same. Green changed to yellow ochre within a week. Unfortunately, it wasn’t really stable. I got a nice stable green when I mixed yellow dye from pomegranate peel with blueberry dye. That one faded only a little bit and retained green hues. 😊❤️
Amazing 😮
Thank you so much ❤️😊
These are really gorgeous, I love your dyeing experiments. I love to dye papers too but have not tried the mordants yet. It's on my list. Thanks
You're very welcome! Glad you enjoyed the video! Thanks so much for watching 😊❤️
AmazIng!
Thank you so much 😊❤️
Wow, Dragana !! I'm filming a results video for turmeric dying and will link to this video as inspiration 😀 your videos are so well organized, informative and enjoyable 👍
Oh, thank you so much! You're very kind for linking me. I appreciate that. I can't wait to watch your video. I've never tried turmeric so I'm very curious ❤️😊
Thank you
You're welcome! Thank you for watching ❤️😊
OMG! You linked me!! This is so nice of you! I appreciate it so much! Loved your video and your experiments ! I never tried grapes, but I can't not try baking soda in every batch of coloring I make, this is so fun and unpredictable :D
Thank you😊, it was your suggestion that inspired me and it deserves a mention❤️. I'll try with blueberries as soon as I get some. At the moment, only frozen ones are available to buy and a bit expensive here. We have so much grape this year and I just had to try 😊❤️
@@Saacibo Yes, and it was a great idea! Oh, and I wanted to say that I don't soak my paper all night, I only dip it in the color bath and take it out. The color settles while drying and the dried color always different from the wet fresh one. It doesn't affect the vibrancy of the colors. Yet another experiment for you! lol
Fabulous!
Thank you!
Beautiful.Great experiment.
Thank you! I'm glad you liked it ❤️😊
Thank you Dragana so much for this tutorial❣ I was searcing for dyeing papers with plants (nettles actually because I need green papers) and found your wonderfull channel. Subscribed. I’ll be watching your videos. Cheers from Finland!
Hello and welcome to the channel! Great to have more people from Finland! I'm really happy that you found the information useful. I was experimenting last year with many different plants because I needed green papers, too. So far, my conclusion is that blue and yellow dyes make the most stable green. I tried with blue grapes and soda bicarbonate. Papers turned green but didn't stay green for long. 😊❤️
Thank you❣ I really want to experiment dyeing with plants instead of using inks. I am waiting for a great success 😂😂 It is much more fun and somehow rewarding to dye with plants from the garden (or in front on our cow barn) instead of buying inks. @@Saacibo
After just watching your recent video from the March 2023, I just had to watch this one too. I could hardly wait to see the results! Lol The papers all turned out beautiful! I especially like the green one, but the yellow/gold ones are so pretty too. We have a massive grapevine of green grape over our garden shed roof - I wonder what colour they would make. When you dry your papers in the oven, what temp do you use, and do you put them on a cookie sheet? Yours dried so even, and smooth. Thanks again for all the info...you make it so easy to follow.😸
Thank you so much Anne! Oh, I enjoyed this experiment so much. I also liked the green papers but unfortunately they didn't stay green for too long. I'm afraid they all turned gold yellow after a month or so. Purple ones stayed purple. All I can say is that it's not easy to get green papers, unless you mix stable blue and yellow dyes, like I did in that other video with blueberries and pomegranates. I haven't tried with green grapes, so I can't say for sure. When I dry papers in the oven I use low heat heat, not too hot. I put the fan on, and I dry two at a time, that's how many I can fit on a tray. You can use cooking sheet to prevent them sticking to your tray. 😊❤️
Thanks for the info on drying the paper. Very weird about the green dyed papers turning yellow/gold. I wonder...have you ever tried fresh green tree leaves - like maple, birch, etc., or clover? Yes, the ones in the blueberry & pomegranate turned out nice. @@Saacibo
Absolutely fascinating Dragana! It's a pity grapes are so expensive here but I might just have to try this anyway lol. FABULOUS video hon! 💖💖💖
Thanks so much Rose! I'm very happy that you liked it. I didn't have to buy grapes, I used ones from my backyard, but I actually wanted to use blueberries and they're expensive here. I guess we can experiment with what we have easily available to us. ❤️❤️❤️
Bonjour, j'aime tant ces experiences avec les bains de couleurs pour les papiers 👍😍 j'ai aussi remarqué que le papier à dessin ou pour aquarelle prend mieux la couleur que le simple papier copie. Maintenant je me pose la question suivante : " avez-vous essayé ces bains avec le papier fait maison et reconstitué ? Je suis presque certaine qu'ils se teinteraient très bien à coup sûr 😅 mais je ne sais pas je n'ai pas encore réalisé mon propre papier 🕵️♂️😁. Merci pour ce partage très intéressant 👍🙏
Tres belle journée et bisous de France 😘
Hello! I’m glad you enjoyed the video. I haven’t tried dyeing handmade papers with these baths because I was afraid they would fall apart. I would try adding the dye to the paper mixture instead of water before the papers are pressed. 😊
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Your ideas of different ways of dying papers is fascinating me a lot 💜💙💚 and the outcome is more than amazing 😊 think I wanna dye papers tomorrow 😁 but probably I will use normal watercolor 😆
Hahaha, yes Steffi, watercolors are definitely easier and more consistent way of coloring paper. But, I was so curious, just had to try and I love the element of surprise 😊❤️😀
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It would be useful to know something about the PH of your water. I have very alkaline water in my area, 9 or 10. Later if you get more specific in your experiments factor that in. Thanks for a fascinating and really different video!
You’re very welcome! Glad you enjoyed it. Thanks for watching and for the advice😊❤️
This was a fascinating video. What do you think the colors wood be if you added a varying amount of vinegar to the solution? What color do you think they would have turned out?
Thank you so much! To answer your question, I prefer to experiment rather than guess or anticipate. Natural dyes are a bit unpredictable. 😊❤️
How do you get your paper not to rip? What weight do you use? Love this
My papers sometimes rip, too. Especially if the dye is warm or hot. It should be cold. I use various paper weights, 80gsm mostly, but also watercolor and sketching papers that are heavier, 120-250gsm
If the green paper was at the bottom, it may be due to a by-product of the bicarb reaction which has sunk to the bottom of the container. Stirring the solution and turning papers frequently might give you greener papers.
You're might be right about that. I'm in the process of trying again but this time I'm spraying the papers individually with the solution, and I keep shaking it before each application. Hopefully I'll get more consistent results 😊❤️
Thank you! I have wondered about using migrants with paper. Have you tried alum, which is used when dyeing fabric? Also, I do not have a grapevine and the supermarket only has the light reddish grapes, so do you think commercially produced grape juice would work? Thank you, again!😊
You’re very welcome! Alum is good to use as a mordant. I’m not sure about commercial grape juice because I haven’t tested but it might work. 😊❤️
@@Saacibo Thank you!😊
How did you dry these papers in the oven? That green one looks a lot like when I dye my avacado papers, I dry them singly in the oven, meaning, I do not pile them up. The side that is on top will get very dark while the underside will stay light. So I don't know if this helps you or not, but I love the results anyway.
Thank you so much Lisa! I dried them all singly, like you do, but the last one turned greener. I tried spraying all the papers individually first, leaving them stacked for couple of hours then spreading them flat to dry. And it worked, they all turned green. I think the residue from soda-bicarbonate sank to the bottom of the tray when I tried the first time. 😊❤️
The reason of such a difference in colour for the last batch might be because of the foam, I think. Dunno for sure, just guessing.
I wonder how it all became after some time... I mean, did the paper discolour?
Green ones changed from the bluish green to more yellow or mustard green. Purple and blue stayed the same to this day 😊
@@Saacibo Thank you
What was the gram weight of the paper you used?
I used copy paper. 80-90gsm
It may have been covered, but how "colour fast" are these papers with the kind of natural dye?
Purple remained the same and it’s been year and a half since I’ve dyed them. Green papers changed back to a yellow brown within a week. Yellow papers stayed the same.
@@Saacibo Interesting! and thank you for your answer.
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Thank you so much for watching ❤️😊