The only thing i would recommend is a diagram or definition popping up on screen when you use terms like “Hyzer” or “Anhyzer”. Those are not normal terms people know before coming into disc golf. You could also show the flight paths of discs and highlight which part is the finish (fade) and the turn in flight.
Just started picking up disc golf last weekend, I'm glad I found your videos, my wife bought me an Innova set of 3 for my birthday came with a Valkyrie, leopard 3, and a putter thought I could just get out and bomb the "distance driver" was humbled quickly lol
I’d also heavily recommend a judge as a putter. It’s relatively cheap, at 10$, and an a staple of the sport. You can pick them up almost anywhere stock up them use them as practice putters, and just a very true flyer.
My dad has been getting into disc golf with me this year. He played a bit in college, but that was about 3 decades and 7 knee surgeries ago. Started him out last month with a Z Zombee, ESP Buzzz, and a Jawbreaker Magnet. Later added in a Heat for him. Glad to see I chose well.
Beginner guide: stick to putters and stable mids, stay away from those drivers! Especially the ones with over 10 speed! Me when I started: *picks a 14 speed distance driver as a first disc*
New guy to the game here, played for the first time this weekend and looking to get into it more, but I’m definitely feeling like a lot of vocabulary here isn’t explained. Some of the terms I’m sort of able to piece together what you’re talking about, but by halfway through I noticed myself scrolling on my phone because I couldn’t keep up with the mile-a-minute terminology. Will definitely end up rewatching this as I learn more about the things you’re mentioning.
I have noticed a ton of new players in my area and appreciate the content you are creating for people new to the sport. I would recommend some videos of you throwing the disc after you describe the flight path so people can visually see what you are talking about. Great video and keep up the good work!
I have been playing too long to get anything out of these videos, but a good video. I like when it is highlighted that stick with understable/straight putters and mids. Since this is a Discraft video, I highly recommend to catch with a friend e.g. with an Ultimate Ultra star) frisbee or J-Star frisbee. Once you learn to throw that cleanly so that it doesn't turn into a roller (on its edge like a car tire) then you can throw almost anything. This does not apply only beginners.
ive only been playing disc golf for a bout a month, and had no idea about this stuff until now. ive been trying to learn disc golf with a speed 12 driver...
Great video. I've thrown Discs at Baskets for a while but only know am I truly learning how to play. Luckily I have a couple Buzzz, Heat, & Zombee. Now I know what to keep and what to remove from my bag.
The plastics made a big difference for me when I first starting out less than a year ago. I used the baseline plastic in my starter kit. For midranges and the slower drivers, it is good to start with but not for the putter. Putter is definitely all about feel. Discraft's Z-Lone plastic had never felt good in my hands, but the ESP plastic sure does.
In my personal opinion and I’ve heard a lot of other really good players say this too. Is to start off by learning mid ranges and putters. Don’t even focus on fairway drivers or distance drivers. Because as a beginner you shouldn’t be trying for distance. And also decide your courses carefully. Don’t go and play a championship course as a beginner cause it’s not gonna get you used to those simple lines that are essential for disc golf. It’s gonna be about difficult lines that most beginners can’t learn. Also make sure to learn how to throw BACKHAND first, one of the biggest mistakes I think I made in my game is learning forehand first just because it felt more natural and comfortable. Both are a necessity in your game but when your first starting learn backhand. Also if your a point to where you feel comfortable using drivers, I suggest using fairway on more wooded courses and technical lines and distance drivers obviously for more straight forward lines. A fairway is just gonna be able to hold that angle more than a distance driver. Also when it’s windy out I also suggest fairway drivers or even a mid range if possible. Just because distance drivers are gonna have more of a chance of catching the wind and messing with your line. But for the beginners have good rounds and be patient. Form and consistency come from practice and to practice it takes time so just be patient and don’t get frustrated and have fun.
Really helpful! I’ve been practicing and playing a lot more lately and I’ve been watching form videos, and this was still really helpful. And it’s a great video to share with people that I’m getting into disc golf!
Great advice. Thanks. I appreciated you sharing about the shape of the disc so I can have an idea of the flight characteristics without knowing the disc.
I liked this! I felt like it would of helped to explain what these terms meant. most beginners don't know what Hyzer means etc. It would also help to see the actual flight of the discs. Keep up the great work!
Headed to a disc golf store soon thanks to this video I will look for a buzz I have a been playing for a few years but I’m 11 years old so I actually understand what the difference between over stable and under stable thanks for the info!
I'm new to the game and trying to get a few discs. Looks like the Fierce and Sol might be a good place to start. Notice these come in different weights, how do you determine the weight you'd need?
Great video. Couple of thoughts Define terms like turn, fade, flip, finish. Beginners may be lost on the terms we take for granted. Also, you may want to cover the rating numbers on the disc as part of defining terms. What does each number mean, for RH and LH players.
@@Jason-ce1vt For right handed players: Turn is the drift of the disc from left to right Hyzer is the angle of the disc when leaving the hand, tilted downward away from your body. Flip is the tendency of the disc to fly (flip up to) flat after being thrown on a hyzer angle. Fade is the movement of the disc from right to left. The more stable a disc, more fade at the end. Usually due to a Hyzer angle throw. Finish is essentially how the disc lands at the end of its flight.
the roadrunner, mamba, fury, aviar, wombat3, mako3, archangel, stingray, cobra, evidence, witness, judge/warden, tursas, fuse, pure/mercy, underworld, crown, and FD would be my main reccomendations in addition to the discraft selection shown. the rest of these for those who may not already know are from the manufacturers: Innova, Discmania, Westside, Dynamic Discs, and Latitude 64. im not too familiar with Prodigy, and MVP/Axiom/Streamline are both harder to find and the most expensive (usually).
Innova discs are probably easier to find than any other brand, but no brand is inherently better than the others. For Innova, i would specifically recommend Aviar for putter, Skeeter and Shark for midranges, and Leopard for low speed fairway driver. These discs are great for beginners and line up well with the Discraft discs Hunter recommended in the video.
Great video. I would suggest you share what you are going to talk about with someone in your life who knows nothing about disc golf. You use a lot of jargon. It would be great if you developed a video about the terms commonly used in disc golf. Keep up the great work.
Good video but should probably give a brief explanation on what the difference is in plastic types and what you mean by the other names for the same mold of discs.
In addition to the hyzer and anhyzer comment below, a description of the different plastics would be good too. I know what hyzer and anhyzer are but have no idea abou Z or Glo plastics.
Great video, not boring at all for a beginner like me. It would be helpful if you defined some of the jargon, like bead, finish, etc. I can assume what you mean by the way you use those terms, but you never really said what they meant.
It was a great video, especially explaining the different flights. Now I know what a Hyzer Flip is. That term is so confusing that even the JoMez guys were wondering whether to say it or not. Also, Paul doesn't like the term Death Putt because it has a negative meaning. There needs to be another word for it. A Challenge Putt, or Risky Putt.
I agree, it took me quite a while before I figured out what a Hyzer Flip is. It doesn't actually flip over, so another term would be better. Even terms in this video like "it's going to finish" meaning turn to the left, or "it's going to turn over" meaning turn to the right (RHBH) are confusing. It *tilts* to the right, but it doesn't really turn over. 😏
One thing that few address is the weight of the disc. Starting out with heavy discs was not good for me. The distance record throw was done with a 156g disc.
Challenger (CryZtal ) is my all time favorite disc. Starting out, however, I think an Omega SS is a good bet-- Aviar with a much nicer feel. (165-169g) Midrange, I'm conflicted. I'm old school enough to recall the answer was always Innova Shark, however, the Discraft Stratus works extremely well for beginners (I've given all mine away to said beginners). I'm also going rogue and nominating Lightning #2 Flyer. For one, it's cheap ($5, most places) . Secondly, for beginners it will be rediculously easy to control and as improves, super easy to turn over. Graduating to a Buzz SS will feel natural. Forehand people will benefit from Innova Spider (if can find one). (150-165g) Driver / High speed disk? Avenger SS. All day. No question. In Pro D to start. Move up to ESP FLX as get better. Alternatively, Innova Sidewinder could work well. (also 150-165g... I had an 137g Avenger SS gave to my12 yr old nephew)
Shark what a great beginner disc, I still have mine from 2003, I would now recommend a Star Mako3 for a first disc, it is one that will always be in the bag and really help with form.
Super helpful. Thanks. Disc selection has always been a somewhat confusing topic. I'm a beginner to intermediate player. Haven't been able to throw over 300, yet. any tips?
I throw both an X and Z Buzzz however, I think a DX Roc3 beats in and is just as if not more “true” flying to give that feedback to a beginner in a mid. Plus you can actually buy them currently. ;)
This is a great video and very educational. Latitude 64 and Danny lindahl have videos similar to this as well. If anyone wants more videos like this I suggest checking their channels out too.
Definitely get a driver as a beginner, especially if you're just playing to have fun. Something lower speed for sure. But playing without drivers would not be fun. This is a game. It's fun.
How is it fun for a beginner to throw 100ft extreme spike hyzers for every shot? Understand how to throw slower discs (3-6 speed) in various stabilities first, they will go farther than drivers right away anyway. Then get a lightweight fairway driver on the understable side. Once you can flip that, buy the same disc but heavier. Once you can flip that, buy something faster (9-11) in a lightweight plastic. Then bump up in weight until you reach a comfortable throwing weight. Stop throwing faster discs when you plateau, meaning a neutral disc acts the way it should when thrown at full power. This top "speed" is different for everyone, and depending on how much you practice, this process could take months, years, or never really happen at all. Sorry but handing a newbie a 175g speed 12+ is fun for no one, especially them. Because they will be seeing you flex out 400ft+ drives, when all they do is go 100ft and dump left straight into the ground over...and over...and over again. I've seen it a hundred times. They get discouraged, and I get tired of encouraging. Hand them a 155g speed 7 (if they kinda know how to throw already) and you know what happens...smiles! Because even though they are only going half as far as me, the shot "looks" the same. They then can understand how discs do what they do and why. The next shot they throw well, I'll hand them the 175g version of the same disc they just bombed (to them) and say do the exact same thing. They do, and get a completely different result. Then things click, and we have a new disc golfer. So yeah, if "fun" is what you are looking do not follow the advise above. Unless your friends are masochists, or you yourself are a sadist...then by all means continue.
smtx I pretty clearly said lower speed drivers. Giving a newbie a 7 speed fairway like a Maverick or a River will give them a little early added distance over a mid-range while still teaching them proper technique. I didn’t say everyone should get a Destroyer with their starter pack. That would be ridiculous.
@@everettcorder5977 I took those as two separate statements. There was a period in between them, and nothing linking the second one to the previous sentence. So I thought you meant something slower in addition. My bad, but I'm glad we agree though.
As you progress your throw gets stronger, the more spin and speed you add, that disc that once was flying straight or even finishing to the left (right handed backhand) is now turning over to the right. Now it’s time to move up to the next level of speed that will allow you to take advantage of your new performance.
I was also wondering if a max weight buzzz is a good disc, I have been wanting a buzzz for awhile and I can only find one and thats on you guys' website but the only weight is 177+ and I want to make sure that is a good weight
Depends. As a rule, heavier disks are easier to control / more predictable, but then more stable / over stable and give up some glide. You notice most putters are 170g or more for that reason. In my opinion, a Pro D, ESP, or X Line Buzz 166g is a good neutral weight. Z Buzz, take off 2 grams or so.
That's completely normal when you're first starting out. Putters are much easier to control than faster discs, so a good rule of thumb is to use the slowest disc that you can throw the distance you need to. Once your form and arm speed gets better, you'll get more benefit from faster discs
hey great videos keep up the great work. I had a question about factory 2nd discs. I wanted to know if factory 2nd discs are as good as normal discs? I have been trying to get more discs but I don't have a lot of money to buy all the ones i want
They sure are! They have some type of mistake that makes them not pass inspection to go into circulation, but it doesn’t affect the flight. Normally it is with the stamp or like a speckle in the rim or something small like that
@@FoundationDG ok thank you that really helps, I was also wondering what weight I would want for the d line buzzz, I was looking to get a esp buzzz but the only weight your website has is 177+. Do you have any suggestions on what weight buzzz I should get?
Love this video.... I wish I would have had this advice when I started. My question for you is, how do you know you've moved from "beginner" to "Intermediate"? What are the signs to start moving up in disc speeds, stability, ect.... When I moved up to a PD, it changed my game and I was able to throw farther accurately....But when I tried a Ricky Destroyer, I cant do a thing with it.
When your arm speed progresses to the point that your PD starts turning over real hard when you throw at 100% power, that’s when you know you have the power to control higher speed discs. If you can throw the PD long and straight but still can’t handle the destroyer, try a Wraith. It’s a speed 11 and about where my arm speed tops out and I love it.
@@andrewduring7142 Thanks for that..... I actually bought a Wraith and a Tern and bombed both of them at Blue Lake today. The Tern, being speed 13, actually went much farther than any disc Ive ever thrown. Im recognizing that at this point, I have more power/armspeed when Im throwing flat/hyzer. That Destroyer is so overstable, I can't seem to get it glide very far before it starts hooking to the ground. Getting disks that have some flip is helping tremendously. (Mamba, Katana, Tern)
Jans Ingber good to hear! I had the same problem and thought it would be a good idea to buy an understable speed 13 Daedalus. At first the understability didn’t even come close to making up for the high speed rating and it would crash out fast. But I kept throwing it in more overstable situations and eventually it beat in enough to where it will fly how I want, with a heavy turn and a slight fade at the end. Moral of the story: don’t give up on that destroyer. Once it gets a little wear to it and your arm speed picks up, it’ll become your go to bomber disc.
No love for the comet... sad indeed :) Its a great idea to help the beginners since a lot of them see the discs top pros throw and they think that is something they should get. I see way too many brand new players throwing destroyers, pd2 or zeus that have no business throwing them.
Download the squalla disc golf app and search by turn -3. You'll find equivalents of the midrange and drivers he recommended, as long as speed is 9 or less
At the release of this video, only the meteor, Heat, and Sol were sold out. I guess people acted fast. If you are a part of our discord, we have a thing called disc bot where you can learn the flight numbers of these discs and use them to attempt to find something similar in the Discraft lineup or from other retailers! Link is in the description if you wanted to join!
Thanks man this really helped I'm having such a hard time finding a putter I like. I have a jawbreaker roach and I do like the feel and flight but it's a lil to light in some sutuations. I mainly throw innova and like the flight characteristics of my aviar3 but I got the wrong plastic I have grip issues and miss puts I shouldn't be missing and I dont like the depth of the disc either so I'm excited to get another roach and maybe a fierce in a more comfortable weight. Any suggestions on a plastic that will have decent grip but wont get beat up too fast as I like to play and practice daily if weather allows.
For putting, I think Discrafts Jawbreaker plastic is best for putting putters followed by Pro D. Z Flex, or big Z for upshots, and approaches. Weight should be close to max for putting, for longer outside the circle putts , take off 6- 10 grams, see if it helps. I also had a problem with release, and found out if I put 3 fingers under the rim and my pointer finger on the lead edge, it really helps to make sure the fingers under the rim are really secure, and your thumb is not pressing too hard on the plate.
Geez.. I thought it was just Frisbee did not know I need to get all kinds for different ranges and everything else.. so complicated..then I realize they arnt cheap either.. can I just get one disc to play in? Thanks!
Of course you guys only want to promote discraft, but if you're looking for a good straight disc for a beginner to bridge the gap between the buzzz and heat, something like a leopard3 or lat64 river is a great option.
The Undertaker or Mantis are both great next steps up! The Undertaker will have a harder finish than the mantis, but both will be more stable than a Heat.
Hey, what happened to the video about drilling holes in your discs? I was genuinely curious how they would fly. If I need to delete this comment, too, let me know. Thanks for the content.
They are basically sponsored by discraft. I’d just suggest sticking with discs you know work and if that is multibrand then that is fine. But if you are trying to find discs and know one brand better than other brands then stick with that brand. Everyone has their preferences with brands.
@@micah_lee I agree that stick with discs that works. It's nice to try new discs, but if something works, don't force to learn something that doesn't work naturally. I never recommend staying within one brand unless you are sponsored player. Why making compromises by using one brand when you can get what you want and need without compromises by using multiple brands. For a non-sponsored player I don't get the idea of using only one brand, if you want the best discs. I understand it from support or "philosophical" perspective, but not from a practical perspective unless local shops sells only couple of brands.
@@kimmomatikainen1843 You have to realize that most brands have a full lineup. I throw mostly prodigy and I can attest even though it isn’t a popular brand it def has a full lineup. Obviously there are some shortcomings so I just throw other discs I know work but the thing is is that I know all of my prodigy discs work really and so I don’t want to have to try another disc to see if it is slightly better. I use a thunderbird i’ve had for two years and a rocx3 for the overstable further flying midrange (compared to a2.) And like a champ firebird because I don’t have a h1. You don’t have to have a mixed bag. Just do whatever works and if you only have a certain brands discs then you don’t have to branch out. I keep buying the same discs I know work.
The only thing i would recommend is a diagram or definition popping up on screen when you use terms like “Hyzer” or “Anhyzer”. Those are not normal terms people know before coming into disc golf. You could also show the flight paths of discs and highlight which part is the finish (fade) and the turn in flight.
I tried to use my hand angles to demonstrate, but as we get into form and other parts of the game, that will be more clearly explained!
Just started picking up disc golf last weekend, I'm glad I found your videos, my wife bought me an Innova set of 3 for my birthday came with a Valkyrie, leopard 3, and a putter thought I could just get out and bomb the "distance driver" was humbled quickly lol
I’d also heavily recommend a judge as a putter. It’s relatively cheap, at 10$, and an a staple of the sport. You can pick them up almost anywhere stock up them use them as practice putters, and just a very true flyer.
My dad has been getting into disc golf with me this year. He played a bit in college, but that was about 3 decades and 7 knee surgeries ago. Started him out last month with a Z Zombee, ESP Buzzz, and a Jawbreaker Magnet. Later added in a Heat for him. Glad to see I chose well.
Beginner guide: stick to putters and stable mids, stay away from those drivers! Especially the ones with over 10 speed!
Me when I started:
*picks a 14 speed distance driver as a first disc*
_Laughs in Innova Viper_
Same, I just had a distance driver, for every shot and putt. One disc. Star Wraith
@@dpwellman i mean, that's hardly a stable mid.. that thing is a boomerang
@@2headstalking See, my first disc was a Viper...
@@dpwellman I started with a viper and a shark.
New guy to the game here, played for the first time this weekend and looking to get into it more, but I’m definitely feeling like a lot of vocabulary here isn’t explained. Some of the terms I’m sort of able to piece together what you’re talking about, but by halfway through I noticed myself scrolling on my phone because I couldn’t keep up with the mile-a-minute terminology. Will definitely end up rewatching this as I learn more about the things you’re mentioning.
I'm relatively new to disc golf, but have my bag figured out (I think), but this was still found very helpful!
This is a brilliant idea you guys. All for this. Build off the type of series Danny Lindhal did.
Build off of or just straight steal? Hunter has to steal others ideas in order to keep any kind of following. He is just so fucking unlikable
I have noticed a ton of new players in my area and appreciate the content you are creating for people new to the sport. I would recommend some videos of you throwing the disc after you describe the flight path so people can visually see what you are talking about. Great video and keep up the good work!
I have been playing too long to get anything out of these videos, but a good video. I like when it is highlighted that stick with understable/straight putters and mids.
Since this is a Discraft video, I highly recommend to catch with a friend e.g. with an Ultimate Ultra star) frisbee or J-Star frisbee. Once you learn to throw that cleanly so that it doesn't turn into a roller (on its edge like a car tire) then you can throw almost anything. This does not apply only beginners.
Been playing about a year. Wish I knew this back then. Just started going back to the basics like this. Hopefully it will help. Thank you!
ive only been playing disc golf for a bout a month, and had no idea about this stuff until now. ive been trying to learn disc golf with a speed 12 driver...
Needed this video 6 months ago. Glad you guys are making resources for beginners. Love expanding the game
This would've been clutch when I got started. I really hope this gets to a lot of beginners
These are great videos, need more of them.
The more I watch videos the more confused I am on disk selection. Finally scoring near par on course and feel I need a better grasp of it.
Great video. I've thrown Discs at Baskets for a while but only know am I truly learning how to play. Luckily I have a couple Buzzz, Heat, & Zombee. Now I know what to keep and what to remove from my bag.
The plastics made a big difference for me when I first starting out less than a year ago. I used the baseline plastic in my starter kit. For midranges and the slower drivers, it is good to start with but not for the putter. Putter is definitely all about feel. Discraft's Z-Lone plastic had never felt good in my hands, but the ESP plastic sure does.
In my personal opinion and I’ve heard a lot of other really good players say this too. Is to start off by learning mid ranges and putters. Don’t even focus on fairway drivers or distance drivers. Because as a beginner you shouldn’t be trying for distance. And also decide your courses carefully. Don’t go and play a championship course as a beginner cause it’s not gonna get you used to those simple lines that are essential for disc golf. It’s gonna be about difficult lines that most beginners can’t learn. Also make sure to learn how to throw BACKHAND first, one of the biggest mistakes I think I made in my game is learning forehand first just because it felt more natural and comfortable. Both are a necessity in your game but when your first starting learn backhand. Also if your a point to where you feel comfortable using drivers, I suggest using fairway on more wooded courses and technical lines and distance drivers obviously for more straight forward lines. A fairway is just gonna be able to hold that angle more than a distance driver. Also when it’s windy out I also suggest fairway drivers or even a mid range if possible. Just because distance drivers are gonna have more of a chance of catching the wind and messing with your line. But for the beginners have good rounds and be patient. Form and consistency come from practice and to practice it takes time so just be patient and don’t get frustrated and have fun.
Really helpful! I’ve been practicing and playing a lot more lately and I’ve been watching form videos, and this was still really helpful. And it’s a great video to share with people that I’m getting into disc golf!
One of the best build a beginner bag! Thanks👍
Great advice. Thanks. I appreciated you sharing about the shape of the disc so I can have an idea of the flight characteristics without knowing the disc.
I found his very helpful. I am new to disc golf and have been trying to figure out what discs to get and in what plastics. So I appreciate this video.
I liked this! I felt like it would of helped to explain what these terms meant. most beginners don't know what Hyzer means etc. It would also help to see the actual flight of the discs. Keep up the great work!
brand new started may 10th this year, blasted a clean 25 minus 2 today on our 9 holes
Headed to a disc golf store soon thanks to this video I will look for a buzz I have a been playing for a few years but I’m 11 years old so I actually understand what the difference between over stable and under stable thanks for the info!
I'm new to the game and trying to get a few discs. Looks like the Fierce and Sol might be a good place to start. Notice these come in different weights, how do you determine the weight you'd need?
Great video...I had to dig so much more for basic info like this when I first started in March.
I have been using the fierce for a little over a year now. Got my first ever ace with one. By far one of my favorite discs.
Coming from a casual frisbee background, when I found Rattlers, there was no going back. Discraft is slowly nabbing more slots in my bag.
I think the sting is the best “driver” for beginners. It flies more like a beginner expects and was my favorite for a but
Great tips. I have been playing for almost 15 years. Would have loved if someone stopped me from having a champion boss be one of my first discs lol.
Great video. Couple of thoughts
Define terms like turn, fade, flip, finish. Beginners may be lost on the terms we take for granted.
Also, you may want to cover the rating numbers on the disc as part of defining terms. What does each number mean, for RH and LH players.
Can you explain that to me? I watched this video to figure that stuff out.
@@Jason-ce1vt For right handed players:
Turn is the drift of the disc from left to right
Hyzer is the angle of the disc when leaving the hand, tilted downward away from your body.
Flip is the tendency of the disc to fly (flip up to) flat after being thrown on a hyzer angle.
Fade is the movement of the disc from right to left. The more stable a disc, more fade at the end. Usually due to a Hyzer angle throw.
Finish is essentially how the disc lands at the end of its flight.
All of this is opposite for left handed players
Just watch this video liked it so much just bought 5 new disc
Thanks it was really interesting and helpful.
This video is great. Definitely want to see you keep puting out more like this.
Really enjoyed it. Can’t wait for the next videos in the series.
I heard you say the fierce flys great on Anhyzer, and it took me a little while to remember. Oh yeah, my first ace was with my fierce on Anhyzer
OUTSTANDING!
KEEP IT COMING!
Looking forward to watching this series
Thanks for the tips!
If only I saw this a couple years ago when I first started. I went out with a couple Destoryers and even used those to putt lol rip
the roadrunner, mamba, fury, aviar, wombat3, mako3, archangel, stingray, cobra, evidence, witness, judge/warden, tursas, fuse, pure/mercy, underworld, crown, and FD would be my main reccomendations in addition to the discraft selection shown. the rest of these for those who may not already know are from the manufacturers: Innova, Discmania, Westside, Dynamic Discs, and Latitude 64. im not too familiar with Prodigy, and MVP/Axiom/Streamline are both harder to find and the most expensive (usually).
I’m not new, but as a lower skill player I can confirm the Aviar,Roadrunner and Stingray are great discs for newer players.
Innova discs are probably easier to find than any other brand, but no brand is inherently better than the others. For Innova, i would specifically recommend Aviar for putter, Skeeter and Shark for midranges, and Leopard for low speed fairway driver. These discs are great for beginners and line up well with the Discraft discs Hunter recommended in the video.
one of my favorite starter discs is the discraft stratus its super easy to throw
Could not have come out at a better time as I just played my first two rounds last weekend. Very nice job!
I love this type of content please keep it coming! It helps for sure! Not a lot out there to really break it down for beginners! 2 thumbs up!👍🏼
Great Idea for basics for new players!
Great video. I would suggest you share what you are going to talk about with someone in your life who knows nothing about disc golf. You use a lot of jargon. It would be great if you developed a video about the terms commonly used in disc golf. Keep up the great work.
Appreciate all the great info!! Love informative videos like this one!!
Love the roach, meteor, and buzz ss
Excellent information!!!!!
Good video guys. Do you recommend starter sets? I believe Discraft sells a three disc starter pack that comes with a Magnet, Buzz, and Heat.
Great 3 discs to start out with.
Great idea. Some other ideas include grips, plastics. Thanks!
Thank you for doing this!
A good way I found to tell if the bottom of a disc is flat, put it on a flat surface, press in the middle, if it acts like a suction cup, pretty flat
I appreciate this I just started two months ago
Good video but should probably give a brief explanation on what the difference is in plastic types and what you mean by the other names for the same mold of discs.
In addition to the hyzer and anhyzer comment below, a description of the different plastics would be good too. I know what hyzer and anhyzer are but have no idea abou Z or Glo plastics.
Great video, not boring at all for a beginner like me. It would be helpful if you defined some of the jargon, like bead, finish, etc. I can assume what you mean by the way you use those terms, but you never really said what they meant.
The two most straight mids i've used are the Meteor and the Fuse
Helpful video Hunter
Im starting out with a real straight flying putter and an over stable 14 speed i thrifted
Maybe you should start with what a bead is. Or speed. Or what the numbers mean on the discs
It was a great video, especially explaining the different flights. Now I know what a Hyzer Flip is. That term is so confusing that even the JoMez guys were wondering whether to say it or not.
Also, Paul doesn't like the term Death Putt because it has a negative meaning. There needs to be another word for it. A Challenge Putt, or Risky Putt.
I agree, it took me quite a while before I figured out what a Hyzer Flip is. It doesn't actually flip over, so another term would be better.
Even terms in this video like "it's going to finish" meaning turn to the left, or "it's going to turn over" meaning turn to the right (RHBH) are confusing. It *tilts* to the right, but it doesn't really turn over. 😏
One thing that few address is the weight of the disc. Starting out with heavy discs was not good for me. The distance record throw was done with a 156g disc.
Nice vide - what can be recommend for a real beginner. The video assume there is already some knowledge of the game.
Challenger (CryZtal ) is my all time favorite disc. Starting out, however, I think an Omega SS is a good bet-- Aviar with a much nicer feel. (165-169g)
Midrange, I'm conflicted. I'm old school enough to recall the answer was always Innova Shark, however, the Discraft Stratus works extremely well for beginners (I've given all mine away to said beginners). I'm also going rogue and nominating Lightning #2 Flyer. For one, it's cheap ($5, most places) . Secondly, for beginners it will be rediculously easy to control and as improves, super easy to turn over. Graduating to a Buzz SS will feel natural. Forehand people will benefit from Innova Spider (if can find one). (150-165g)
Driver / High speed disk? Avenger SS. All day. No question. In Pro D to start. Move up to ESP FLX as get better. Alternatively, Innova Sidewinder could work well. (also 150-165g... I had an 137g Avenger SS gave to my12 yr old nephew)
Shark what a great beginner disc, I still have mine from 2003, I would now recommend a Star Mako3 for a first disc, it is one that will always be in the bag and really help with form.
Very informative but would have included flight numbers and why.
Maybe a link to a chart about the different manufacturers’ plastic charts
Super helpful. Thanks. Disc selection has always been a somewhat confusing topic. I'm a beginner to intermediate player. Haven't been able to throw over 300, yet. any tips?
We will have a video on form coming out soon that will probably help you push past that mark!
I throw both an X and Z Buzzz however, I think a DX Roc3 beats in and is just as if not more “true” flying to give that feedback to a beginner in a mid. Plus you can actually buy them currently. ;)
Roc, you say? We're you alive when Carter was president and Erin Grey was a reason to watch NBC on Thursday? 😎
It helps and keep making them! 😁
best video
This is a great video and very educational. Latitude 64 and Danny lindahl have videos similar to this as well. If anyone wants more videos like this I suggest checking their channels out too.
For us in mid virginia I wish there was a place we could go into and get hands on disk selection help.
Definitely get a driver as a beginner, especially if you're just playing to have fun. Something lower speed for sure. But playing without drivers would not be fun. This is a game. It's fun.
How is it fun for a beginner to throw 100ft extreme spike hyzers for every shot? Understand how to throw slower discs (3-6 speed) in various stabilities first, they will go farther than drivers right away anyway. Then get a lightweight fairway driver on the understable side. Once you can flip that, buy the same disc but heavier. Once you can flip that, buy something faster (9-11) in a lightweight plastic. Then bump up in weight until you reach a comfortable throwing weight. Stop throwing faster discs when you plateau, meaning a neutral disc acts the way it should when thrown at full power. This top "speed" is different for everyone, and depending on how much you practice, this process could take months, years, or never really happen at all.
Sorry but handing a newbie a 175g speed 12+ is fun for no one, especially them. Because they will be seeing you flex out 400ft+ drives, when all they do is go 100ft and dump left straight into the ground over...and over...and over again. I've seen it a hundred times. They get discouraged, and I get tired of encouraging. Hand them a 155g speed 7 (if they kinda know how to throw already) and you know what happens...smiles! Because even though they are only going half as far as me, the shot "looks" the same. They then can understand how discs do what they do and why. The next shot they throw well, I'll hand them the 175g version of the same disc they just bombed (to them) and say do the exact same thing. They do, and get a completely different result. Then things click, and we have a new disc golfer.
So yeah, if "fun" is what you are looking do not follow the advise above. Unless your friends are masochists, or you yourself are a sadist...then by all means continue.
smtx I pretty clearly said lower speed drivers. Giving a newbie a 7 speed fairway like a Maverick or a River will give them a little early added distance over a mid-range while still teaching them proper technique. I didn’t say everyone should get a Destroyer with their starter pack. That would be ridiculous.
@@everettcorder5977 I took those as two separate statements. There was a period in between them, and nothing linking the second one to the previous sentence. So I thought you meant something slower in addition. My bad, but I'm glad we agree though.
How can you tell when you are ready to move on from a more beginner friendly disc?
As you progress your throw gets stronger, the more spin and speed you add, that disc that once was flying straight or even finishing to the left (right handed backhand) is now turning over to the right. Now it’s time to move up to the next level of speed that will allow you to take advantage of your new performance.
I was also wondering if a max weight buzzz is a good disc, I have been wanting a buzzz for awhile and I can only find one and thats on you guys' website but the only weight is 177+ and I want to make sure that is a good weight
Depends. As a rule, heavier disks are easier to control / more predictable, but then more stable / over stable and give up some glide. You notice most putters are 170g or more for that reason.
In my opinion, a Pro D, ESP, or X Line Buzz 166g is a good neutral weight. Z Buzz, take off 2 grams or so.
I really liked it - thank you. I am new and one issue I have is that my putters fly nearly as far as my mid-ranges -- 150 to 200ft. Should they?
That's completely normal when you're first starting out. Putters are much easier to control than faster discs, so a good rule of thumb is to use the slowest disc that you can throw the distance you need to. Once your form and arm speed gets better, you'll get more benefit from faster discs
hey great videos keep up the great work. I had a question about factory 2nd discs. I wanted to know if factory 2nd discs are as good as normal discs? I have been trying to get more discs but I don't have a lot of money to buy all the ones i want
They sure are! They have some type of mistake that makes them not pass inspection to go into circulation, but it doesn’t affect the flight. Normally it is with the stamp or like a speckle in the rim or something small like that
@@FoundationDG ok thank you that really helps, I was also wondering what weight I would want for the d line buzzz, I was looking to get a esp buzzz but the only weight your website has is 177+. Do you have any suggestions on what weight buzzz I should get?
Love this video.... I wish I would have had this advice when I started. My question for you is, how do you know you've moved from "beginner" to "Intermediate"? What are the signs to start moving up in disc speeds, stability, ect.... When I moved up to a PD, it changed my game and I was able to throw farther accurately....But when I tried a Ricky Destroyer, I cant do a thing with it.
When your arm speed progresses to the point that your PD starts turning over real hard when you throw at 100% power, that’s when you know you have the power to control higher speed discs. If you can throw the PD long and straight but still can’t handle the destroyer, try a Wraith. It’s a speed 11 and about where my arm speed tops out and I love it.
@@andrewduring7142 Thanks for that..... I actually bought a Wraith and a Tern and bombed both of them at Blue Lake today. The Tern, being speed 13, actually went much farther than any disc Ive ever thrown. Im recognizing that at this point, I have more power/armspeed when Im throwing flat/hyzer. That Destroyer is so overstable, I can't seem to get it glide very far before it starts hooking to the ground. Getting disks that have some flip is helping tremendously. (Mamba, Katana, Tern)
Jans Ingber good to hear! I had the same problem and thought it would be a good idea to buy an understable speed 13 Daedalus. At first the understability didn’t even come close to making up for the high speed rating and it would crash out fast. But I kept throwing it in more overstable situations and eventually it beat in enough to where it will fly how I want, with a heavy turn and a slight fade at the end. Moral of the story: don’t give up on that destroyer. Once it gets a little wear to it and your arm speed picks up, it’ll become your go to bomber disc.
Andrew During thank you.... really helpful. I’ll keep seeing what I can do with that meat hook.
This was helpy
No love for the comet... sad indeed :) Its a great idea to help the beginners since a lot of them see the discs top pros throw and they think that is something they should get. I see way too many brand new players throwing destroyers, pd2 or zeus that have no business throwing them.
I think the putting is most important. Tell any beginner put, put and put some more. Then throw straight mids and go from there.
Would be good to mention weight too as that can be confusing at first
The Magnet is a good putter
Does the fierce have a beed?
Every disc you recommended with the exception of the Buzz was sold out on the Foundation site as of this date and time stamp.
Download the squalla disc golf app and search by turn -3. You'll find equivalents of the midrange and drivers he recommended, as long as speed is 9 or less
At the release of this video, only the meteor, Heat, and Sol were sold out. I guess people acted fast. If you are a part of our discord, we have a thing called disc bot where you can learn the flight numbers of these discs and use them to attempt to find something similar in the Discraft lineup or from other retailers! Link is in the description if you wanted to join!
Just checked our site, we still have plenty of Buzzz, Roach, Fierces, and Challengers in stock!
Thanks man this really helped I'm having such a hard time finding a putter I like. I have a jawbreaker roach and I do like the feel and flight but it's a lil to light in some sutuations. I mainly throw innova and like the flight characteristics of my aviar3 but I got the wrong plastic I have grip issues and miss puts I shouldn't be missing and I dont like the depth of the disc either so I'm excited to get another roach and maybe a fierce in a more comfortable weight. Any suggestions on a plastic that will have decent grip but wont get beat up too fast as I like to play and practice daily if weather allows.
For putting, I think Discrafts Jawbreaker plastic is best for putting putters followed by Pro D. Z Flex, or big Z for upshots, and approaches. Weight should be close to max for putting, for longer outside the circle putts , take off 6- 10 grams, see if it helps. I also had a problem with release, and found out if I put 3 fingers under the rim and my pointer finger on the lead edge, it really helps to make sure the fingers under the rim are really secure, and your thumb is not pressing too hard on the plate.
Burst judge is a nice putter. Feels similar to a buzz or similar mid range in the hand.
What discs would recommend in each category with the Innova or Discmania brand.
Bro I would love to move out to where you guys our and work for you guys
Geez.. I thought it was just
Frisbee did not know I need to get all kinds for different ranges and everything else.. so complicated..then I realize they arnt cheap either.. can I just get one disc to play in? Thanks!
Of course you guys only want to promote discraft, but if you're looking for a good straight disc for a beginner to bridge the gap between the buzzz and heat, something like a leopard3 or lat64 river is a great option.
i honestly miss when FDG did more videos like this.
Is there a list of comparable discs from other manufacturers? I am getting misprints as they are cheaper at Innova or dynamic
As a noob, a product list somewhere would be great rather than having to guess with a bunch of key search terms like "heat"
On our site, you can go to the discs tab and then sort by speed and stability to find everything that fits what you’re looking for!
What do you guys recommend trying after outgrowing the Heat? I like the heat, but starting to turn over too much as I learn better form.
The Undertaker or Mantis are both great next steps up! The Undertaker will have a harder finish than the mantis, but both will be more stable than a Heat.
Foundation Disc Golf Awesome I just got a Z-flex Undertaker in a mystery box that I haven’t thrown yet. Gonna have to give that a try.
Hey, what happened to the video about drilling holes in your discs? I was genuinely curious how they would fly. If I need to delete this comment, too, let me know. Thanks for the content.
Is there a reason they are all Discraft discs??? just wondering
They are basically sponsored by discraft. I’d just suggest sticking with discs you know work and if that is multibrand then that is fine. But if you are trying to find discs and know one brand better than other brands then stick with that brand. Everyone has their preferences with brands.
@@micah_lee I agree that stick with discs that works. It's nice to try new discs, but if something works, don't force to learn something that doesn't work naturally.
I never recommend staying within one brand unless you are sponsored player. Why making compromises by using one brand when you can get what you want and need without compromises by using multiple brands.
For a non-sponsored player I don't get the idea of using only one brand, if you want the best discs. I understand it from support or "philosophical" perspective, but not from a practical perspective unless local shops sells only couple of brands.
@@kimmomatikainen1843 You have to realize that most brands have a full lineup. I throw mostly prodigy and I can attest even though it isn’t a popular brand it def has a full lineup. Obviously there are some shortcomings so I just throw other discs I know work but the thing is is that I know all of my prodigy discs work really and so I don’t want to have to try another disc to see if it is slightly better. I use a thunderbird i’ve had for two years and a rocx3 for the overstable further flying midrange (compared to a2.) And like a champ firebird because I don’t have a h1. You don’t have to have a mixed bag. Just do whatever works and if you only have a certain brands discs then you don’t have to branch out. I keep buying the same discs I know work.
Every time I have checked the store recently you guys have been out of almost everything, when will you get more heats in stock?
We have a bunch on the way! Still recovering from Covid slowing production