I think Kickstarter isn't a bad idea (See Undertale, Hollow Knight, etc.) but sometimes things happen behind the scenes that ruin things, like mismanagement, technical difficulties or personal stuff. Summary: no one sets out to make a bad game, but sometimes, life rips you a new one, and we shouldn't say Kickstarter is a bad site all around.
Kickstarter is a pretty bad website all around though. Just because some good ideas are present doesn't mean the site is good. All of these crowdfunding sites are way too unreliable. There are so many blatant scams that aren't taken down. It's a lawless platform.
@@mentalpopcorn2304 here is the fucked up part, many sites like kickstarter take a cut of the money raised. So it leads to me thinking they might not act fast at all if they need to get paid.
I think the problem is that the consumer is taking the place of the investor, but instead of profits you get the game. It's better to see it from that angle than as you buying the product: Think about all the games that get financed, developed and fall apart. For every AAA game that maked tons of money, you get things like Anthem that are a complete moneyhole. That's basically what things like Mighty No.9 are, a promising investment that went sour. Just on a way smaller scale than AAA.
You know, with all these Kickstarter failures with a lot of them involve the devs running out of money, I am surprised Hollow Knight turned out as well as it did considering the Team Cherry apparently ran out of funds.
Shovel Knight also ran out of funds, and the devs took out second mortgages on their houses to keep the project going. The real difference is a passion for what you're doing. Hollow Knight and Shovel Knight succeeded because the people making the games genuinely wanted to be making them and do a good job.
@@Waffletigercat So, basically, Kickstarter never gave enough money to the devs, so games like Shovelknight and Hollow Knight have a much bigger budget than what the Kickstarter campaign says? To say all of that was "passion" misses the point that game development shouldn't be so risky to begin with.
I don’t think they’ll be able to fully deliver. Right now, it’s 35 weeks total (Kickstarter), and it’ll probably reach a 10 week epilogue. That’s 45 weeks or 145 songs total. But then you have to factor in the playable characters (having to add 10 more playable characters) and that means that you’ll have to have a separate voice track for playing a song with every character. Counting BF as one, that’s 1,595 separate audio files. Jesus. Oh and it doesn’t stop there. With the erect difficulty, they’re going to remix every song. It’s given that they’ll probably re use the voices for these, but that’s still an extra 145 tracks. 145 + 1595 = 1740. I highly doubt they’ll be able to really do this. A small team like this. I hope it’s handled well but I predict it won’t be. And that’s not counting the mobile port, the custom character creator, the sharing network, and online multiplayer.
@@gaspastrike Obviously, we can't assume they will reach all of their goals. But, at the moment, I'm not going to panic all that much on the matter unless they somehow fail to do the most basic of tasks.
Pfft, the 20XX footage during the Mighty No. 9 bit. Nice. Also, fun fact: During an AMA, the Dev of 20XX said that the protagonist's name was originally Nine. This was hastily changed to Nina when the Mighty No. 9 Kickstarter was launched.
Kickstarter can do a lot of good for an indie developer if they're extremely passionate and dedicated to making a good game, but it's not just about blowing your funding goal away. It's about the time invested, I feel.
btw Rabbidluigi, the protagonist of Mighty no. 9 made an appearance in another game. Mighty Gunvolt Burst, which takes him and Gunvolt (or GV as he's sometimes called) into a game about going through a VR world for some purpose. GV and that other guy (not sure if I remember his name right, as I thankfully did nothing with Mighty No. 9 beforehand) are not the only playable characters. If you transferred your save data from the demo, you have unlocked at the start Ekoro (I think her name was) from Japan's infamous weird shooter: Galgun. Not to mention there's so many DLC characters to purchase for a cheap price each. Every character has their own reasons and goals for why they are a part of that game. My theory is that Mighty Gunvolt Burst was created as an apology for people suffering and getting disappointed due to the failure of Mighty No. 9.
I agree. It failed so badly, I've never heard of it. But Mighty No.9 deserves just a little bit more attention for it spectualry failing way before godus did. But seeing how this wasn't the first time Peter Molyneux failed this hard, I get why he was at the top of the list. Although the douchey trailer Mighty No.9 had does deserve some kind of attention, and then to quickly be ignored.
Hey, it's Sunday, so I figured I'd be watching a new RabbidLuigi video. I invested $60 for your premium video release. Then I found out it was free. ...Still better than Mighty No. 9.
Geez that would actually break my heart. I backed it with the hopes it would be a good enough Suikoden since Konami doesn’t feel like working with it anymore.
I’d like to give a shout-out to Clang. Not backed by me personally, but my dad. Famous author backing historically accurate combat fighting game sim, only to barely release a demo despite promising a game with combat styles from around the world represented.
Hiveswap is not a bad game. Granted, it did go through development hell, but all that has (hopefully) settled down now, and unlike most of the games on this list, Hiveswap actually came out, and is fun to play
I’m surprised that Project Pheonix wasn’t on this list. It’s Kickstarter was around the same time as Mighty No.9 and Shantae 1/2 Genie Hero and we haven’t really heard anything about the games development since.
@@amirgarcia547 i mean he has at least been still working on it unlike any other kickstarter projects i know about, and its not even a kickstarter game yet
What an interesting and informative video. I forgot the number 1 spot existed, but you made some very informative points in this video. Thanks for the amazing video.
Star Citizen is literally a game that can only loose money from beeing completed. Its like all those weird scams with movies, where the insurance outpay from it doing badly, would be more profitable than it doing well...
I just wanted to say, I watched your videos years ago and just randomly thought about your channel recently, which led me to start watching this. Your videos have improved so much! They look and sound so professional now! I'm impressed! I look forward to watching more of your content!
The moral of some of these stories is that lofty ambitions need focus. You see it all the time in industries such as animated films and games: If you look at every great artistic and technical achievement in those industries you might notice that they usually seem to come one at a time. This is also why some smaller projects(i.e. Pixar short films) are made using new tech or techniques. That way, creators can see if something works well enough to be implemented into something bigger.
I just want to take a moment to remind everyone that there are good Kickstarter games. Shovel Knight, A Hat in Time, Shantae: Half-Genie Hero, Undertale, and Hollow Knight, just to name a few.
Agreed. As a Banjo-Kazooie fan, I enjoyed Yooka-Laylee, even with its flaws. It’s not perfect but it’s nowhere as bad as any of the games in this video. It even has an amazing follow-up (The Impossible Lair) and lots of cameos in other games, so you know it’s not a failure at all. 😊
Because Yooka-Laylee isn't a bad game. It's really good, I'll even say. It has some flaws that I'm not too fond of, but I can never say I hated my time playing it. I actually had fun and even 100%ed it, which is something I rarely do personally unless I enjoy the game that much. It's sudo-sequel, Impossible Lair, is simply just phenomenal. There's a lot to appreciate, and it's sad there are some blind Banjo fanboys who refuse to admit the positives and say Yooka-Laylee doesn't get "x" or "y" right, when Banjo-Kazooie itself is outdated in retrospect
Yeah. Him and Caddicarus always make the best videos... especially this one, which is one of Caddy's best, but don't forget about gillythekid, or AntDude, or even RabbidLuigi, or PBG, or even SomecallmeJohnny. They're all good dudes too, dude.
I was a fan of Keiji Inafune but after the Mighty Number 9 fiasco and learning he wasn't the real creator of Megaman, I have lost all respect I had towards Inafune.
Whenever someone brings up Star Citizen I remember that I once did a recording for a band where the drummer was a designer for that game. Guy formerly worked at Crytek and was rly passionate about it, sucks to see the game turned into this tbh
@@nnooooooooooooo Oh come on, we watched the same video. You‘re probably aware of its reputation. I‘m not saying anything about the quality, it‘s just become a money sink that‘s usually only talked about negatively
@@zhav3d It‘s not particularily well researched yeah 😅 Again, I‘m rly just talking abt the reputation and the delays / struggles. I can‘t say much about the actual quality
I can only wonder if there were any underfunded and cancelled projects with great potential that we'll never get to play because of how these flops are some of the first things that are associated with the idea of crowdfunded games...
Goddus is absolutely no1. But I'd put Star citizen as no2. I backed the kickstarter, but even if it would come out tomorrow with all of the promised features, I don't even want to play it anymore. All my excitement is completely gone.
I legitimately feel like that game is a money pit at this point. I'm not a backer, but I followed it from the beginning and seeing how little has actually came from it after all these, but all the money pumped into it every year from ship sales make me convinced it will never release and I it does will be far from an actual finished game.
I'd argue that Yogventures should be #1. I've heard the full story of that game from DJ Slopes, who specializes in Kickstarters that wound up failing or even outright being a scam (Kickscammers as he calls it), and it was a mess to say the least. There are some real horror stories out there that frankly, even Mighty No. 9 looks good by comparison because it at least delivered even if it wasn't good. I've backed a number of Kickstarters and they've mostly been successful. A few have been late, which is understandable, but only one has really done a runner on me (I hope). Yes, there are horror stories out there, but that doesn't reflect badly on the site itself.
And then the chads at Team Cherry deliver Hollow Knight in a glorious state, include some of the stretch goals that didn't meet the required funds, and then turn the Hornet paid DLC into a whole fucking game AND give it for free for the original backers.
So far I’ve only backed 3 crowdfunding campaigns: Justice Beaver on SNES - I backed the cart only perk Phantom Gear on Mega Drive - I backed the cart only perk Stone Protectors DVD box set - I backed the digital comic & Mega Drive ROM perk
Damn ... those games made me look like less of a disappointment in my mother's eyes. Also, since in every video you keep requesting for ideas for your next video I shall try to help you with: Top 5 games with grappling hooks /top 5 games with fishing minigames. It ain't getting higher quality than this
So, this is an edit, and I stated that out of the 4 million dollars that Comcept only had 1.6 million to work with due to Kickstarter fees, but it looks like I fucked up. kirby1781 in the replies checked the video and confirmed I made a mistake. The pinned comment on Matt's video says there was an error on his end about the cut taken from Kickstarter, and, according to someone that told kirby1781, the actual cut may be either 5-10% or 30-35%. Doing the math, that means the cut potentially taken by Kickstarter could result in the amount remaining being anywhere from 2.47 million dollars to 3.61 million dollars, going by the rough amount being 3.8 million without rounding it to the nearest million. Matt also doesn't say what the actual amount remaining was, so we've only got the alleged cuts mentioned to go by, for now. So, for now, let's just say that we don't properly know how much Kickstarter took, and I am terribly sorry for my fuck up.
Kickstarter takes THAT much? Seriously, it is screwed that, if what you are saying is true, the makers of the kickstarter don't even get HALF of the profit. They deserve at least that.
So I checked the video. The pinned comment is from the uploaded saying the put 40% was an error on his end. He doesn't say what the actual amount is, but someone said they take about 5 - 10%, or a 30 - 35% difference.
Hello, yes, am Mighty Number 9 backer here, chose the Vita version and I've run out of hope and liquor. This is why I'm opening a kickstarter to recoup the $200+ that I've wasted on this project and the booze I've purchased to drown out the pain! With your help, I'm going to create a bigger and better Mighty Number 09: I bring to you Superb Unit 10!
It's kinda like how people think Yuji Naka was the one behind Sonic when he was only really the lead programmer. Which's still an important role, but stilll.
Top Five Infiltration Missions (e.g. The Underdark from Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn; Korriban from Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic; Lady Boyle's Last Party from Dishonored; Diplomatic Immunity from The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim)
Star Citizen started production the year I started college. I graduated over 5 years ago and the game is still being presented as disjointed, disconnected modules.
Star citizen yes will probably never fully be released, but my husband plays that with a few friends a new patch just came out. They also do have events and new ships are about to drop to. So yes it is still being worked on
10:30 part of the reason the kickstarter was supported so well was b/c capcom had massive heat from the gaming community and a lot of people supported it to spite capcom. It started off when capcom canned the two games he announced during his departure, one of which was hyped up to be a game that the community had an active role in it's development and one of the capcom employees passed the blame on the fans themselves for it's cancellation. things began to steamroll once they gained a bad reputation in the community for rehashing games multiple times to make a quick buck, butchering fan favorites, on disc dlc, dlc wall locking a true ending in a game and their ever so infamous dropping darkstalkers because it did not sell a million copies.
If you want a real taste of disappointment check out the Kickstarter for Vertebreaker, it’s a game project from the guys that made Sonic Mania that got cancelled because it wasn’t getting much attention at the time
During this video I got an ad for a KickStarter project of a VR game where you sit round a table and play D and D. Literally VR for a game where you imagine the action instead of seeing anything.
@@Crystalitar I would also be baffled by the existence of a VR board game. I could maybe see it as a minigame in VR chat or something, the telepresence idea... but not really.
Potential countdown: top games that don’t match their titles anymore. Is the Evil residential anymore? How many Emblems of Fire even matter in their games these days?
Well, the Fire Emblem in Fates is the Omega Yato, the strongest version of Corrin's sword, while in Three Houses it's the Crest of Flames, AKA the crest Byleth, Sothis and Edelgard have. So it is at least somewhat important in recent games.
@@amirgarcia547 I am quite aware of how they figured how to name drop it into the recent games. Though really, even those item’s real relevance is still tenuous.
I would definitely not call Mighty Number 9 the most notorious kickstarter campaign there is. I mean look, at least they got a game. Pity the poor bastards who funded the Coolest Cooler...
I'm surprised you didn't mention that the Yogventures dev ran off with the money. The way the Yogscast was treated by the devs was dreadful as we later found out. I never backed it, but I feel awful for everyone involved
I was curious about whatever happened with curiosity. I remember playing the bubble wrap simulator back in high school and never knowing what happened to it. Had no idea that it was helmed by one of the most infamous people in the gaming industry.
One of my friends has constantly been playing Star Citizen for the past three months, and when he told me that the game was still in development, I was like “okay.” But now I’m watching this video, and I’m like “ohhhhhh nooooooooooo.” 😬
So this is basically Top Five Worst Kickstarter Campaigns, not Games. Eh, nitpick. Great video, regardless. Also, would love to see Top Five Most Quotable Video Games. Star Fox 64, Portal 2, Bioshock, Team Fortress 2, etc.
Just remember, for every disaster to come from Kickstarter, there are still many more success stories. Such examples include Undertale, Shovel Knight, Hollow Knight, Shantae Half-Genie Hero, Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night, A Hat in Time and Lisa the Painful. And those're only the ones I can think of from the top of my head! As for upcoming games, Friday Night Funkin' looks promising and currently has a Kickstarter for the "full-ass game."
Mighty No. 9 bombed so hard that it "Butterfly Effected" Mega Man back into life. It makes me wonder though... If Yookah-Laylee and Bloodstained failed just as hard, to the point they'd have managed to bring back Banjo & Kazooie from Microsoft and Castlevania from Konami, would you be disappointed? Or would you be relieved to see these series back? In other words, do we actually like these spiritual successors or are we just filling in the gaping hole that these series left in out gaming hearts?
Honestly. everyone who cared about B/K left Rare to form Playtonic after they were required by Microsoft, and Konami barely does anything with their IPs nowadays. So I doubt those series would've been revived even if those games failed.
The weird thing is that Comcept worked with Sony to release the legitimately brilliant, grotesquely gorgeous, and extremely well designed Soul Sacrifice at the beginning of the Vita's life cycle, and it's basically an arcadey Monster Hunter clone with Dark Soul's (or rather, Berserk's) aesthetics, and magic system which seems at least somewhat inspired by Mega Man.
This list made me laugh because I backed #1, #4, and #5. I'm not upset about any of it, since that was part of the risk of Kickstarter. I got a few hits, and a lot of misses.
What sucks for me about Mighty No. 9 is that I love the concepts, and call me someone with low standards, but I enjoyed the story (or at least its lore) and a few of the characters stuck to me (mostly the Mighty robots idk why). But as we all know, the execution was just awful. All that potential, wasted! But I wouldn't mind if someone tried to do a fan remake of it with improvements to the gameplay.
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I think Kickstarter isn't a bad idea (See Undertale, Hollow Knight, etc.) but sometimes things happen behind the scenes that ruin things, like mismanagement, technical difficulties or personal stuff. Summary: no one sets out to make a bad game, but sometimes, life rips you a new one, and we shouldn't say Kickstarter is a bad site all around.
You do get a few who just plan to scam and run.
Don't forget Bloodstained, every single thing Keiji Inafune did wrong Koji Igarashi did right.
Kickstarter is a pretty bad website all around though. Just because some good ideas are present doesn't mean the site is good.
All of these crowdfunding sites are way too unreliable. There are so many blatant scams that aren't taken down. It's a lawless platform.
@@mentalpopcorn2304 here is the fucked up part, many sites like kickstarter take a cut of the money raised. So it leads to me thinking they might not act fast at all if they need to get paid.
I think the problem is that the consumer is taking the place of the investor, but instead of profits you get the game. It's better to see it from that angle than as you buying the product:
Think about all the games that get financed, developed and fall apart. For every AAA game that maked tons of money, you get things like Anthem that are a complete moneyhole. That's basically what things like Mighty No.9 are, a promising investment that went sour. Just on a way smaller scale than AAA.
Kickstarter, where a generation of adolescents learned about the risks of being an investor.
And still learn
Investment means the investor has a chance of making a profit.
@@HalseyHFW And in the case of Kickstarter, that profit typically comes in the form of goods. Profit doesn't mean money.
@@Llortnerof so you just buy a product, again no equity or creditor, buying a pre sale is not investing
@@banemen27 No, you don't. It's not a purchase. Kickstarter is investing, not buying. There is a creditor. You.
You know, with all these Kickstarter failures with a lot of them involve the devs running out of money, I am surprised Hollow Knight turned out as well as it did considering the Team Cherry apparently ran out of funds.
Shovel Knight also ran out of funds, and the devs took out second mortgages on their houses to keep the project going. The real difference is a passion for what you're doing. Hollow Knight and Shovel Knight succeeded because the people making the games genuinely wanted to be making them and do a good job.
@@Waffletigercat Passion can go a long way, but putting that kind of weight on it can be a bit disingenuous.
@@Waffletigercat cuphead was handled the same way, took mortgages out.
@@Waffletigercat So, basically, Kickstarter never gave enough money to the devs, so games like Shovelknight and Hollow Knight have a much bigger budget than what the Kickstarter campaign says? To say all of that was "passion" misses the point that game development shouldn't be so risky to begin with.
There is also the fact that Kickstarter takes 5% and Stripe takes 3%. So 8% is immediately taken from the top.
With the recent announcement of Friday Night Funkin's Kickstarter campaign, I hope it doesn't end up being handled as terribly as these 5 games.
to be fair its relatively simple design and concept mean its unlikely to be fucked up THAT bad, at worst they will probably deal with some delays
The free weeks we gotten so far, I'm sure they'll deliver on what they promised.
I mean they already have a lot to work with. So now they're just adding shit to it
I don’t think they’ll be able to fully deliver. Right now, it’s 35 weeks total (Kickstarter), and it’ll probably reach a 10 week epilogue. That’s 45 weeks or 145 songs total. But then you have to factor in the playable characters (having to add 10 more playable characters) and that means that you’ll have to have a separate voice track for playing a song with every character. Counting BF as one, that’s 1,595 separate audio files. Jesus.
Oh and it doesn’t stop there.
With the erect difficulty, they’re going to remix every song. It’s given that they’ll probably re use the voices for these, but that’s still an extra 145 tracks. 145 + 1595 = 1740.
I highly doubt they’ll be able to really do this. A small team like this. I hope it’s handled well but I predict it won’t be. And that’s not counting the mobile port, the custom character creator, the sharing network, and online multiplayer.
@@gaspastrike Obviously, we can't assume they will reach all of their goals. But, at the moment, I'm not going to panic all that much on the matter unless they somehow fail to do the most basic of tasks.
Pfft, the 20XX footage during the Mighty No. 9 bit. Nice.
Also, fun fact: During an AMA, the Dev of 20XX said that the protagonist's name was originally Nine. This was hastily changed to Nina when the Mighty No. 9 Kickstarter was launched.
...Smart choice.
Kickstarter can do a lot of good for an indie developer if they're extremely passionate and dedicated to making a good game, but it's not just about blowing your funding goal away. It's about the time invested, I feel.
btw Rabbidluigi, the protagonist of Mighty no. 9 made an appearance in another game. Mighty Gunvolt Burst, which takes him and Gunvolt (or GV as he's sometimes called) into a game about going through a VR world for some purpose. GV and that other guy (not sure if I remember his name right, as I thankfully did nothing with Mighty No. 9 beforehand) are not the only playable characters. If you transferred your save data from the demo, you have unlocked at the start Ekoro (I think her name was) from Japan's infamous weird shooter: Galgun. Not to mention there's so many DLC characters to purchase for a cheap price each. Every character has their own reasons and goals for why they are a part of that game. My theory is that Mighty Gunvolt Burst was created as an apology for people suffering and getting disappointed due to the failure of Mighty No. 9.
I got both games and the DLC
(Some of it being FREE for a short time, as with Blaster Master Zero!) and buying them was WORTH IT
Mighty No. 9 was inevitable, but Godus deserves more attention for just how absurdly it failed.
I agree. It failed so badly, I've never heard of it. But Mighty No.9 deserves just a little bit more attention for it spectualry failing way before godus did. But seeing how this wasn't the first time Peter Molyneux failed this hard, I get why he was at the top of the list. Although the douchey trailer Mighty No.9 had does deserve some kind of attention, and then to quickly be ignored.
Thanks to Kim Justice’s (objective) retrospective on Molyneux I know more about it than I ever wanted to.
I'm surprised Godus doesn't have as many videos out about it. Everything that could go wrong did.
4:50 - Jaysus, I'm awake.
EDIT - Yo, I knew that would be #1! Someone alert Guru Larry!
Poor Brian was promised godhood, but only got disappointment.
Sounds like godhood to me
Hey, it's Sunday, so I figured I'd be watching a new RabbidLuigi video. I invested $60 for your premium video release. Then I found out it was free.
...Still better than Mighty No. 9.
Wait how was I supposed to know to subscribe with RabbidLuigi?
Fingers crossed that Friday Night Funkin's Kickstarter campaign doesn't go south.
Unfortunately the fnf creator is massively racist and everyone just conveniently forgets that
@@randomclustermissile8701 Any proof?
@@randomclustermissile8701 uhh no he isn't??????
@@randomclustermissile8701 Do you have a source for where you got that or did you pull that out the bunghole?
Well, it technically already has since there is a song in the game called South. ;}
If Mighty No. 9 is not #1, I will cry like an anime fan on prom night.
How many tears have you shed after seeing the list?
@@justinnzamora5366 I mean runner up ain't bad
@@blitz4779 True. It'd be hard to ignore it's existence.
Please tell me no one beat it...
Now to watch anxiously...
XD
mighty no 9 wasn't that bad for a megaman/x successor tbh.
the ray dlc was pretty fun too
I REALLY hope that Eiyuuden Chronicles won't land on a list like this. Luckily it doesn't look like it right now but you never know...
That sounds too similar to Chronicles of Elyria to not end up on a list like this.
Geez that would actually break my heart. I backed it with the hopes it would be a good enough Suikoden since Konami doesn’t feel like working with it anymore.
I’d like to give a shout-out to Clang. Not backed by me personally, but my dad. Famous author backing historically accurate combat fighting game sim, only to barely release a demo despite promising a game with combat styles from around the world represented.
I’m geniunely surprised Hiveswap isn’t on the list considering how messed up the development was
You can't put it on when it's only half released. Give it time.
Oh, what's that you say? The kickstarter was in 2012? *Ohhhhh nooooo...*
Hiveswap is not a bad game. Granted, it did go through development hell, but all that has (hopefully) settled down now, and unlike most of the games on this list, Hiveswap actually came out, and is fun to play
i cannot believe you didnt mention Hiveswap at all. the development for that game was ridiculous and its STILL not done
I’m surprised that Project Pheonix wasn’t on this list. It’s Kickstarter was around the same time as Mighty No.9 and Shantae 1/2 Genie Hero and we haven’t really heard anything about the games development since.
Part of me was expecting Yandere Simulator to be on this list but then I realized that I don't know if it was funded through Kickstarter or not...
It's not been funded yet, it's still in a free demo testing state. And will be until he deems it ready for Kickstarter
That game's never gonna be finished at this point tbh.
@@amirgarcia547 i mean he has at least been still working on it unlike any other kickstarter projects i know about, and its not even a kickstarter game yet
@@likky1 That's the thing. He's being funded through donations on patreon yet he his wants his gullible fans to fund his Kickstarter too.
@@Superluigi881 thats the weird part, he also said that money on patreon goes towards his life not towards the game
Oh cool, I got a kickstarter ad before the video started. Hope that isn't foreshadowing for that kickstarter.
What an interesting and informative video. I forgot the number 1 spot existed, but you made some very informative points in this video. Thanks for the amazing video.
Star Citizen is literally a game that can only loose money from beeing completed. Its like all those weird scams with movies, where the insurance outpay from it doing badly, would be more profitable than it doing well...
The best part about Mighty Number 9 is Mighty Gunvolt Burst is super good, and it’s basically Mighty Number 9 but not made by Inafune
Inafune was involved with Gunvolt just less so than Mighty number 9.
Fully agree, starter
I just wanted to say, I watched your videos years ago and just randomly thought about your channel recently, which led me to start watching this. Your videos have improved so much! They look and sound so professional now! I'm impressed! I look forward to watching more of your content!
The moral of some of these stories is that lofty ambitions need focus. You see it all the time in industries such as animated films and games: If you look at every great artistic and technical achievement in those industries you might notice that they usually seem to come one at a time. This is also why some smaller projects(i.e. Pixar short films) are made using new tech or techniques. That way, creators can see if something works well enough to be implemented into something bigger.
I just want to take a moment to remind everyone that there are good Kickstarter games. Shovel Knight, A Hat in Time, Shantae: Half-Genie Hero, Undertale, and Hollow Knight, just to name a few.
At least Mighty No. 9 made Capcom realize they needed to stop bullshitting on Mega Man and actually USE him?
Facts. Mighty no 9 got us megaman 11
Thanks for not putting yooka laylee on this list, I really dont think it's a bad game
Your opinion on the sequel?
@@Ramsey276one sequel is great if you like donkey kong
Agreed. As a Banjo-Kazooie fan, I enjoyed Yooka-Laylee, even with its flaws. It’s not perfect but it’s nowhere as bad as any of the games in this video. It even has an amazing follow-up (The Impossible Lair) and lots of cameos in other games, so you know it’s not a failure at all. 😊
@@danielmales123 okay
Because Yooka-Laylee isn't a bad game. It's really good, I'll even say. It has some flaws that I'm not too fond of, but I can never say I hated my time playing it. I actually had fun and even 100%ed it, which is something I rarely do personally unless I enjoy the game that much. It's sudo-sequel, Impossible Lair, is simply just phenomenal. There's a lot to appreciate, and it's sad there are some blind Banjo fanboys who refuse to admit the positives and say Yooka-Laylee doesn't get "x" or "y" right, when Banjo-Kazooie itself is outdated in retrospect
4:56 Man, I love Nitro Rad.
Yeah. Him and Caddicarus always make the best videos... especially this one, which is one of Caddy's best, but don't forget about gillythekid, or AntDude, or even RabbidLuigi, or PBG, or even SomecallmeJohnny. They're all good dudes too, dude.
I remember Inafune was starting to be a little trigger happy with Kickstarter when Mighty was in development haha
As in making a Kickstarter for a completely different game, that being Red Ash. Which definitely turned out very well (not.)
@@amirgarcia547 And campaigns for cartoons of both series :/
I was a fan of Keiji Inafune but after the Mighty Number 9 fiasco and learning he wasn't the real creator of Megaman, I have lost all respect I had towards Inafune.
And now he's going to ruin Azure Striker Gunvolt 3.
Posting this before it gets buried in the comment ocean:
Top ten creepy children/toddlers/infants in video games
The Moon Children from Majora's Mask?
The new fuckin' baby thing in Resident Evil..
Alma Wade, holy shit
Two words; DEAD SPACE
Does Orphan of Kos count? He is freshly born when you fight him.
Whenever someone brings up Star Citizen I remember that I once did a recording for a band where the drummer was a designer for that game. Guy formerly worked at Crytek and was rly passionate about it, sucks to see the game turned into this tbh
Turned into what? I played the game not too long ago and it was fine. Maybe not content complete, but it was fine.
@@nnooooooooooooo Oh come on, we watched the same video. You‘re probably aware of its reputation. I‘m not saying anything about the quality, it‘s just become a money sink that‘s usually only talked about negatively
@@SubsonicNoise Yeah, the guy in the video also said "I don't even know if its still in development".. talk about research.
@@zhav3d It‘s not particularily well researched yeah 😅 Again, I‘m rly just talking abt the reputation and the delays / struggles. I can‘t say much about the actual quality
I can only wonder if there were any underfunded and cancelled projects with great potential that we'll never get to play because of how these flops are some of the first things that are associated with the idea of crowdfunded games...
There definitely are, this even happens with big companies too.
Well, at least you can make "movies" for free so long as you already have a camera and a willing crew.
The day star citizen comes out, we as a species will have discovered actual clean, renewable energy and a way to solve world hunger
I'm obsessed with the character design at 1:07, what game is that?
Goddus is absolutely no1. But I'd put Star citizen as no2. I backed the kickstarter, but even if it would come out tomorrow with all of the promised features, I don't even want to play it anymore. All my excitement is completely gone.
I legitimately feel like that game is a money pit at this point. I'm not a backer, but I followed it from the beginning and seeing how little has actually came from it after all these, but all the money pumped into it every year from ship sales make me convinced it will never release and I it does will be far from an actual finished game.
I'd argue that Yogventures should be #1. I've heard the full story of that game from DJ Slopes, who specializes in Kickstarters that wound up failing or even outright being a scam (Kickscammers as he calls it), and it was a mess to say the least. There are some real horror stories out there that frankly, even Mighty No. 9 looks good by comparison because it at least delivered even if it wasn't good.
I've backed a number of Kickstarters and they've mostly been successful. A few have been late, which is understandable, but only one has really done a runner on me (I hope). Yes, there are horror stories out there, but that doesn't reflect badly on the site itself.
And then the chads at Team Cherry deliver Hollow Knight in a glorious state, include some of the stretch goals that didn't meet the required funds, and then turn the Hornet paid DLC into a whole fucking game AND give it for free for the original backers.
So far I’ve only backed 3 crowdfunding campaigns:
Justice Beaver on SNES - I backed the cart only perk
Phantom Gear on Mega Drive - I backed the cart only perk
Stone Protectors DVD box set - I backed the digital comic & Mega Drive ROM perk
Loved seeing some footage of 20XX in this video! It was the first game to come to my mind when you mentioned successors to Megaman. Fun for sure!
Top 5 Best Kickstarter Games next?
Yeah!
I want to be surprised...
“THAT was a Kickstarter game?? WOW!”
XD
Hollow knight
Damn ... those games made me look like less of a disappointment in my mother's eyes.
Also, since in every video you keep requesting for ideas for your next video I shall try to help you with:
Top 5 games with grappling hooks /top 5 games with fishing minigames.
It ain't getting higher quality than this
So, this is an edit, and I stated that out of the 4 million dollars that Comcept only had 1.6 million to work with due to Kickstarter fees, but it looks like I fucked up. kirby1781 in the replies checked the video and confirmed I made a mistake. The pinned comment on Matt's video says there was an error on his end about the cut taken from Kickstarter, and, according to someone that told kirby1781, the actual cut may be either 5-10% or 30-35%.
Doing the math, that means the cut potentially taken by Kickstarter could result in the amount remaining being anywhere from 2.47 million dollars to 3.61 million dollars, going by the rough amount being 3.8 million without rounding it to the nearest million. Matt also doesn't say what the actual amount remaining was, so we've only got the alleged cuts mentioned to go by, for now.
So, for now, let's just say that we don't properly know how much Kickstarter took, and I am terribly sorry for my fuck up.
Kickstarter takes THAT much?
Seriously, it is screwed that, if what you are saying is true, the makers of the kickstarter don't even get HALF of the profit. They deserve at least that.
Excuse meWUT
THAT IS *NOT* ACCEPTABLE!
So I checked the video. The pinned comment is from the uploaded saying the put 40% was an error on his end. He doesn't say what the actual amount is, but someone said they take about 5 - 10%, or a 30 - 35% difference.
@@kirby1781 I'll edit to clarify your correction, and I'm sorry for inadvertently spreading misinformation.
@@Ramsey276one Check kirby1781's second reply and read my now edited comment.
Hello, yes, am Mighty Number 9 backer here, chose the Vita version and I've run out of hope and liquor. This is why I'm opening a kickstarter to recoup the $200+ that I've wasted on this project and the booze I've purchased to drown out the pain! With your help, I'm going to create a bigger and better Mighty Number 09: I bring to you Superb Unit 10!
From what I've played of it , I don't entirely mind Mighty Number 9.
Dream World. That is the most recent infamous scam kickstarter game that I recommend everyone look up
Will do
I've been saying for years that Keiji Inafune wasn't the driving force behind Mega Man... One time, it got me banned from a Discord server.
It's kinda like how people think Yuji Naka was the one behind Sonic when he was only really the lead programmer. Which's still an important role, but stilll.
The fact that fallout the Frontier had decent space combat before start citizen launched came out.
A shame it has...other issues
@@aaronr.265 to be fair they released a finished product. While star citizens is still in development
@@danieldragotti2608 You're comparing a pile of shit to a diamond that's only available as an NFT
@@pinewolfpresents yes a free complete product with somting that will never exist
Top 5 Video Game Franchises With Long Sequel Gaps.
(Or Top 5 Longest Sequel Gaps)
Wow, I saw that #2 and I said "What could possibly be #1?"
And then I saw #1 and said "That was a KickStarter game?!"
Top Five Infiltration Missions (e.g. The Underdark from Baldur's Gate II: Shadows of Amn; Korriban from Star Wars: Knights of the Old Republic; Lady Boyle's Last Party from Dishonored; Diplomatic Immunity from The Elder Scrolls V: Skyrim)
Its a sad day when bad Kickstarters exist
Star Citizen is still actively being developed. I get emails monthly about the stuff added. I just don't care about it anymore.
Glad you’re not holding your breath...
Hopefully you didn’t buy a ship of your own!
Q_q
Star Citizen started production the year I started college. I graduated over 5 years ago and the game is still being presented as disjointed, disconnected modules.
Star citizen yes will probably never fully be released, but my husband plays that with a few friends a new patch just came out. They also do have events and new ships are about to drop to. So yes it is still being worked on
A British man riffing on Peter Molyneux?
Rabbidluigi is Larry Bundy confirmed.
10:30 part of the reason the kickstarter was supported so well was b/c capcom had massive heat from the gaming community and a lot of people supported it to spite capcom. It started off when capcom canned the two games he announced during his departure, one of which was hyped up to be a game that the community had an active role in it's development and one of the capcom employees passed the blame on the fans themselves for it's cancellation. things began to steamroll once they gained a bad reputation in the community for rehashing games multiple times to make a quick buck, butchering fan favorites, on disc dlc, dlc wall locking a true ending in a game and their ever so infamous dropping darkstalkers because it did not sell a million copies.
For all its faults, at least Mighty No. 9 had a full release. The others on this list didn't even get that.
Top 5 Playable Instruments in Videogames
Playing AS AN INSTRUMENT
Or making music in a game that isn’t just music?
I mean
PHRASING
XD
Oh No, Peter Molyneux. When his name uttered, a Guru sure follows suit.
Never trust him with Banjo-Kazooie. That much I know.
Mighty No. 9 was the first, and last, time I ever donated to a kickstarter.
It wasn't that bad right?
If you want a real taste of disappointment check out the Kickstarter for Vertebreaker, it’s a game project from the guys that made Sonic Mania that got cancelled because it wasn’t getting much attention at the time
OUCH
Have you considered a top mentor characters on videogames
As one of the original backers my literal money is on Half life 3 coming out before Star citizen.
People take note rabbidluigi needs his own game
6:24
what word are you saying here? Closed Beater?
The English way of saying “beta”
@@rabbidluigi
oh, gotcha
(for the record I wasn't trying to be rude or anything, I just genuinely couldn't tell what you said)
RUclips hasn't recommended a video of yours in AGES.
During this video I got an ad for a KickStarter project of a VR game where you sit round a table and play D and D.
Literally VR for a game where you imagine the action instead of seeing anything.
Tbh there are VR games of boardgames so a tabletop game could be fun.
There is a charm in moving your figure by hand and not roll 20
@@Crystalitar I would also be baffled by the existence of a VR board game. I could maybe see it as a minigame in VR chat or something, the telepresence idea... but not really.
5:00 oi the AntDude mate is pretty cool
Yeah i love that guy
Kickstarter itself is not the problem. It's the people who use and abuse Kickstarter to make a quick buck.
Ah Yogventures, still stings today and a common meme joke in yogs communites
4:55 Loved seeing AndDude's page.
Potential countdown: top games that don’t match their titles anymore. Is the Evil residential anymore? How many Emblems of Fire even matter in their games these days?
Good point
Makes me wonder what Bayonetta 3 will be like Considering that first trailer...
For what it’s worth, Three Houses has you fight under the banner of the Crest of Flames, which is a literal fire emblem
Well, the Fire Emblem in Fates is the Omega Yato, the strongest version of Corrin's sword, while in Three Houses it's the Crest of Flames, AKA the crest Byleth, Sothis and Edelgard have. So it is at least somewhat important in recent games.
@@amirgarcia547 I am quite aware of how they figured how to name drop it into the recent games. Though really, even those item’s real relevance is still tenuous.
Was expecting Hiveswap, was expecting Yooka-Laylee even more, still wasn't disappointed.
Yooka Laylee was okay but redeemed themselves with a much better DKC successor
I would definitely not call Mighty Number 9 the most notorious kickstarter campaign there is.
I mean look, at least they got a game. Pity the poor bastards who funded the Coolest Cooler...
I'm surprised you didn't mention that the Yogventures dev ran off with the money. The way the Yogscast was treated by the devs was dreadful as we later found out. I never backed it, but I feel awful for everyone involved
Bad Kickstarter campaigns and Peter Molyneux jokes? What is this a Guru Larry video?
I was curious about whatever happened with curiosity. I remember playing the bubble wrap simulator back in high school and never knowing what happened to it. Had no idea that it was helmed by one of the most infamous people in the gaming industry.
How about the top 5 best kickstarter games?
Hollow knight number 1
Edit: maybe undertale as well
Fully agree, starter
@@silverreaps6803 Shovelknight?
@@saphiriathebluedragonknight375 for sure
Oh.. That one game that made everyone cry like a anime fan on prom night?
One of my friends has constantly been playing Star Citizen for the past three months, and when he told me that the game was still in development, I was like “okay.” But now I’m watching this video, and I’m like “ohhhhhh nooooooooooo.” 😬
So this is basically Top Five Worst Kickstarter Campaigns, not Games. Eh, nitpick. Great video, regardless.
Also, would love to see Top Five Most Quotable Video Games. Star Fox 64, Portal 2, Bioshock, Team Fortress 2, etc.
"Do a barrel roll!"
Deep Rock Galactic would definitely be on that list.
IF YOU DON'T ROCK AND STONE, YOU AIN'T COMING HOME
Just remember, for every disaster to come from Kickstarter, there are still many more success stories. Such examples include Undertale, Shovel Knight, Hollow Knight, Shantae Half-Genie Hero, Bloodstained: Ritual of the Night, A Hat in Time and Lisa the Painful. And those're only the ones I can think of from the top of my head! As for upcoming games, Friday Night Funkin' looks promising and currently has a Kickstarter for the "full-ass game."
I’ve played Godus before, and it was pretty fun, but I had no idea about the backstory behind it
Im predicting shenmue 3 on this list.
Edit: damn i was wrong but it is definitely an honourable mention
Maybe because it is more mediocre than outright bad, but then again so was star citizen
I liked it quite a bit. It's a very divisive game, but there are quite a few people who do like it. Unlike most games on this list.
@@Real1Gaming 👊
You know Mighty No. 9 was bad when the one game to beat it in being bad was Peter doing his over-exaggerating to the nth degree.
Mighty No. 9 bombed so hard that it "Butterfly Effected" Mega Man back into life.
It makes me wonder though...
If Yookah-Laylee and Bloodstained failed just as hard, to the point they'd have managed to bring back Banjo & Kazooie from Microsoft and Castlevania from Konami, would you be disappointed? Or would you be relieved to see these series back?
In other words, do we actually like these spiritual successors or are we just filling in the gaping hole that these series left in out gaming hearts?
Honestly. everyone who cared about B/K left Rare to form Playtonic after they were required by Microsoft, and Konami barely does anything with their IPs nowadays. So I doubt those series would've been revived even if those games failed.
@@amirgarcia547 I know. That's why I said "If". It's all in the realm of a hypothesis.
Noone likes disapointment.
Gosh, I forgot about curiosity. I had it downloaded for 30 minutes, said “This is dumb”, and haven’t thought about it since, until now of course.
The weird thing is that Comcept worked with Sony to release the legitimately brilliant, grotesquely gorgeous, and extremely well designed Soul Sacrifice at the beginning of the Vita's life cycle, and it's basically an arcadey Monster Hunter clone with Dark Soul's (or rather, Berserk's) aesthetics, and magic system which seems at least somewhat inspired by Mega Man.
‘Gets to number 1, looks at channel name.’
Sorry just making sure I’m not on Larry Bundy Jr. channel.
Just now watched this... You OPENED with Star Citizen? Whew boy.... Thats a landmine and a half.
This list made me laugh because I backed #1, #4, and #5. I'm not upset about any of it, since that was part of the risk of Kickstarter. I got a few hits, and a lot of misses.
What sucks for me about Mighty No. 9 is that I love the concepts, and call me someone with low standards, but I enjoyed the story (or at least its lore) and a few of the characters stuck to me (mostly the Mighty robots idk why). But as we all know, the execution was just awful. All that potential, wasted! But I wouldn't mind if someone tried to do a fan remake of it with improvements to the gameplay.
Ever heard of Mighty Gunvolt Burst? It's basically Mighty No. 9 but good, and you can even play as Gunvolt (Beck has more interesting stuff though)
What is the music used during the #4 segment?
Me: Gets to #4, patiently listens
rabbidluigi: mentions the Yogscast
Me: ...Oh...I remember this.
EYYY, my suggestion got the #4 spot
Voice from the future: Found it a bit funny that, while watching this, I got an ad from kickstarter, for a Game being developed on their platform.
@matt allan Sorry that you think having adblocker is improving your youtube experience. Each to their own I guess. Peace
Star citizen.. or the future of NFT'S. in gaming.