The logic for the DMC one baffles me. Like "let's make him all cool and badass by Western tastes/standards!" and I'm just thinking... seems he was doing exactly that just fine already....
@@redseagaming7832 We might have to talk to them about it again if that one leak of Capcom wanting to take "inspiration" from The Last Of Us 2 is anything to go by XP
Bomberman: Act Zero is one of those games that came out in that weird period in the mid-00s that felt like it was trying to appeal too hard to the, "See!? Video games AREN'T just for kids!" demographic and failed spectacularly.
@@silverreaps6803 But it continues the story of previews games. I know it was meant to be "back to the series' roots" or stuff like that, but I'm pretty sure it was never their intention to make a total reboot, story-wise nor ganeplay-wise
@@Nov-5062 if I remember, it was supposed to be a soft reboot. Keep all the characters, but change up some of the backstories. That's why Shadow is willing to work with GUN, the organization that ruined his life.
Honestly, I'm wondering how the OG fans' perception of DMC would have changed is NuDante had instead just preened in front of the mirror for a bit and then said something like, "Not bad..." or "I guess that I look pretty damn good in white." Hell, instead of it being a wig, just have a mop land on his head, have him give one of the above reactions, then put in an optional finisher for the next boss fight where NuDante ends the battle by shoving the mop handle first through its head so that the mop head gives the boss an OG Dante style "hairdo" while NuDante looks at it between fingers framing it like a camera and saying "Nah, it just doesn't work as well on you," and activating that finisher unlocks a joke cosmetic of NuDante wearing the mop head as hair, a full mop as a sword or staff, and two spray bottles instead of handguns and a non-joke cosmetic where he's wearing an OG Dante wig and OG Dante's traditional weapons.
You know the funny thing about that scene? Spoilers for those who haven't bothered to play it fully through. He actually gets white hair at the end of the game, when he, as the skin puts it, "awakens." It's an example of his character growth in the game, going from being selfish and not caring about helping people to growing an attachment to his brother and Kat, to when Vergil turns on the both of them, he declares himself the protector of the people. You'd be surprised at the effort put into DmC if you actually opted to take off the rose glasses and look past the edgy shit. I mean, you looked past when OG Dante got stabbed by a sword and then slowly slinked up with the sword going through him and blood splattering all over like some 12 year old's fanfiction attempt in DMC1, right?
For Virgil, they obviously went back and played Devil May Cry 3 Special Edition and somehow this Virgil who did zero to no fighting throughout the entire game all of a sudden can keep up with Dante.
I really want to know what was going through the development team's heads when Bomberman Act Zero was made. As Josh said in his Konami Fails Countdown, this is a nosedive compared to the original.
I could forgive the gritty design choice if the gameplay was good, but it was awful. All levels looked the same, no bosses, less power ups than previous games, no local multiplayer. It's one of my least favorite games out there.
You can check out the series "What Happened" which he did go over Bomberman Act Zero. It goes over some questionable decisions related to the game. Yet despite it, I'm still questioning more and more on it-
I still stand by that it could've done a whole lot better if it just became a new IP (much like DMC did in the first place) since it became so far-removed from its source material. Change the names, tweak some designs, and called the game "Damn Nation" or something, and we could've had an interesting new stylish action game series. It ain't a bad game, but using the Devil May Cry IP while having almost nothing to do with Devil May Cry really hurt it. Then again, that somehow worked out fantastic for Doom Eternal, so what do I know?
@@Lugbzurg Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal still keep true to the classics in spirit. (Though I have issues with the nu-Cacodemons.) You want a bad DOOM reboot? Check out Doom 3 if you dare.
@@CarbonRollerCaco The new Doom games feel more like Quake titles or Darksiders shooters than actual Doom games. Aside from some familiar words and designs, they seem to have nothing substantial in common with the classic titles. Maze-traversal is gone, the campy tone is gone, the religious elements are gone, most of the classic lore is retconned. It feels like a completely different IP now.
@@Lugbzurg Capcom said that DMC 4 didn't sell well enough, and they were jealous of the sales of GOD of WAR. So Capcom said, you know what maybe the reason why DMC isn't selling well compared to the other Western games, is because DMC is too Japanese???? Lets Change everything.
It was a scrapped idea, I think. But there are vestiges of it with some of the gameplay and story sequences being tweaks of older ones. They even reused a scene from Sonic X nearly verbatim. Sounds like Takashi Iizuka doesn't get what a reboot is supposed to be (Yuji Naka himself was supposedly rather far from the project just like with Sonic Adventure 2, explaining that game's inconsistencies with the past and itself).
@@Catkeeper I'd like a remaster of it. Being able to play it on Switch would've been great. It is not awesome, per se, I just remember it being really great in quenching whatever anger or frustration I had. Although the amount of blood and body parts on screen made for pretty messy fps count.
I'm not even a DMC fan but the existence of 5 delights me because until then I'd considered a reboot basically a death sentence for that old continuity you loved. Now along with Crash 4, I have some semblance of hope for Ape Escape.
I almost always seem to forget Bomberman Act Zero existed whenever one of these lists comes up, like some sort of defence mechanism in my brain. I've got to wonder how long a list of good reboots would actually be, though I'd want Tomb Raider Legend on that list of the 2013 reboot, is an underrated gem.
I wouldn't have put Sonic 06 on here because while some of the initial statements talked about it being a reboot, the game made literally no attempt to do that in any way at all besides MAYBE the ending if you feel like calling it that, but that's like calling the Sonic and MegaMan crossover comic a reboot of Archie Sonic because that's how IT ended, but that's just not what a reboot is.
@@galfinsp7216 That's a theory at least, but that has to ignore the rest of the game too, among other things. To me it's more to do with the whole game's story being a mess in itself. Like "we need Shadow here, but how do we do it? eh make him an agent, the kids won't care."
Sometimes I wonder what the Sonic series would be like had '06 actually been finished, and not rushed out in a broken mess. The story's actually pretty good, especially Shadow's and Silver's stories. The problem is Sonic's campaign. It feels more like a side story, which isn't great considering he's the main character. But the worse part is the awkward romance between Sonic and a human princess. Even ignoring the obvious, it feels forced and unnecessary
God I remember beating dmc 4 and being hyped when I heard they were making another one. The confusion and despair I felt playing the reboot was intense. I am so glad they got their shit together and made dmc 5
It’s humorous to think that Dmc was the kind of Reboot that due it not going as well as capcom hoped they decided to go back to og continuity with Devil may cry 5 , I mean what other gaming reboot was capable of doing something like that ?(please tell me )
@@diegobendinelli2680 You see the thing with that was Insomniac only really made it to not only be a re imagining of the first game but also a tie in for the upcoming film adaptation , it was never meant to be anything more than just that .
The funny thing about the Alone in the Dark reboot is that there was actually 2 different versions. The ps3/360 version you showed and the PS2/Wii port also which is even worse. I actually think the main reboot did have lots of potential as I remember actually being really looking forward to the game even though at the time of release I could only get my hands on the ps2 version.
Actually I have a lot of fun with the PS2 version of alone in the dark but I really wish they'd kept to the same play style as alone in the dark the new nightmare
@@lnsflare1 To bad people always only see the Amazon and the Sorceress from that game and immediatelly mark it off as trash just based off those two character designs even though the Dwarf and the Warrior are just as over stylized. But since those are male characters they don't count apparently. They don't even look at the Gameplay or at how amazing some of the enemies you fight are.
@@riemaennchen I mean, the Sorceress and Amazon (and the fairy, ghosts, vampire, mermaid, harpy, crafting wizard, and cleric, at least) are definitely exaggerated in a vastly more sexualized way than the male power fantasy way than the Knight and the Dwarf (or the Conan the Barbarian analogue), except for the people who really like short and hairy bodybuilders. It's just that it was a deliberate stylistic choice since the art style is supposed to be based on legendary fantasy artist Frank Frazetta's work, and he definitely was a fan of the extremely buxom and scantily clad ladies. Also, the Wizard and Elf classes were around for people that wanted to use characters that had more realistic proportions for either gender..
Even though Sonic 06 was ultimately just another game in the franchise instead of the reboot it was originally meant to be, it's still one of my favorite games in the series despite its flaws.
*pulls up a tour bus* And on the right you will see the rare fan of Sonic 06, believed to have gone extinct the second the game came out. *tourists snap photos*
Ah, this video was pretty highly desired I think, right? I kept seeing this in the comments. I appreciate how you distinguished bad game from bad reboot though. Even if they *are* usually the same thing.
One of my honorable mentions is the Defender reboot for the original Xbox. In 1981 Defender basically was made with one question in mind; what if Space Invaders was more open spaced? It's one of the more popular arcade games, which makes sense with Williams Electronics behind it. They'd later go on to make Sinistar! Then when the Xbox came along, let's just say it was a huge era for classic IPs to get updated, a lot of which I played; Panzer Dragoon Orta, Jet Set Radio Future, and a definite personal favorite, the MechAssault series, based off Mech Warrior. Alright, that's where Defender comes in. Unlike most of the reboots on this list, it's not that bad. It at least had an interesting concept to its gameplay. It's a cross between an alien spaceship blasting simulator and a pseudo Real Time Strategy. Like the arcade game, your goal is to save humans from the aliens. But in the reboot, you can also bring them to a facility to get tanks, which you'll need desperately when the Manti, as they're called in 2001, start trying to destroy your crucial colonies. Especially considering your ship is a bit hectic to control and aiming by yourself isn't exactly recommended. Most critics didn't seem to hate the game, but they found it rather mediocre. So it sadly comes to no surprise that nothing really came of this; no more Defender games have been made since. And that's a shame too since the idea of dogfighting and strategizing in the same game could make for an interesting game, despite Defender pretty much being one of the more traditional instances of a failed reboot. If you haven't played it, there is a longplay you can check out for context. They did make a GBA version that of course tried to pay more homage to the 80s game, but it honestly looks worse than the arcade.
If I remember correctly, that Alone in the Dark game had so many bizarre gameplay elements in the game that you were still getting tutorials almost all the way up to the end of the game because the gameplay and button commands literally changed depending on which level you were on and what they wanted you to do for this scenario. I think it also let you skip through entire chunks of the game without having to do them, almost like they knew how bad it was and that no one would ever want to play through it.
Yeah, as long as it stays an alternate timeline, non-canon to the current DMC timeline; and as fun as it was as a standalone game, yeah; I don't think we'll be seeing another one set in that timeline. Because; it sold LESS than DMC2 did, which was the previous lowest selling Devil May Cry game, so don't expect another one anytime soon. That being said, to me personally, I don't really see a bad DMC game. I've played them all, and they're all great. From DMC1 to 5, to me, there's no such thing as a bad DMC game. Although DMC2 and the 2013 reboot nearly fall into that category, I did enjoy certain aspects of both games, for the 2013 game, the gameplay, visual style, ranking system, soundtrack, voice acting, stunt work, all good as usual. With DMC2, I enjoyed, the gameplay, combos, soundtrack, and Lucia as a character. The voice acting was pretty bad, and the graphics don't look all that impressive, as a sequel to one of the single greatest action/horror series. But to be fair, DMC2 was only the 2nd Devil May Cry game at the time, and the devs had no clue how what to do with Dante next. Same with the the reboot. But it was good as it's own game. Just didn't need to be called "Devil May Cry", is all. But I do hope we get a sequel to DMC5. But if there's another reboot, then just take what worked here, and take out what didn't work, and focus on improving what does work. That's a good first step to making a good sequel.
@@shawnfields2369 I'd love to see DMC6 follow Dante and Vergil in hell after the events in 5, but I'd also love to see Nero be the only protagonist in a game, and Trish and Lady should have their own spinoff
@@daxernsthenobody Hey, dude, I 1,000,000% agree! Nero needs his own game, like DMC4, but he doesn't switch off to Dante, Lady, Trish, or anyone else, just Nero, all the way through. Same with Lady and Trish, just a DMC game starring them, and nobody else you can play as(unless you beat the game and unlock them, like Vergil, or maybe Dante?), Lady and Trish need their own game after being background characters for so long, and always helping Dante/Nero, whoever, out whenever they can. I've played literally every DMC game, from the very first one on the PS2, to the current one. They're all GREAT. Hell, I even enjoyed DMC2 in some guilty pleasure type aspect. But I really did like what they did with Lucia's character, how they tried to make her have this serious backstory about being a demon, created by Arius, but ultimately, called a "failure", by him, so she tries to protect the people of Vie De Marli instead. Sure, it was only the 2nd Devil May Cry game at that time, but I think it's ok. Not as good as DMC1, but at least it tried something, and didn't play it safe. DMC3 was way better, and was the first time we saw former Power Rangers take on the role of DMC characters. In this case, it was the former Quantum Ranger(Eric Myers), who would become the standard voice of Vergil throughout the series, but got his start in the DMC games, here. But not the reboot, obviously. But ironically enough, another former Ranger took on the role of Vergil in the DMC reboot. It was the Purple Wolf Ranger, RJ, from Power Rangers: Jungle Fury(if you haven't seen Power Rangers, or don't care, don't worry about it), it's just something I grew up with, and to hear one of my favorite actors playing Vergil, one of my favorite characters in one of my favorite series, is just something I can't help but bring up almost every time I talk about the Power Rangers and DMC. But yeah, I can't wait until DMC6, and I hope that maybe that'll be Nero's first lone starring role, and I do hope they show what Dante and Vergil did after they escaped hell. There's no way you can keep those 2 down. But I'd also love a DMC game where you play as Dante; Vergil, Nero, Lady, and Trish, but you have to unlock them, in-game, and at the start, only Nero's selectable, but he's still the main star. Plus, after Vergil finds out Nero's his son, they HAVE to keep going. They have to. So that Nero learns who his dad and uncle are, and so they Dante and Vergil can meet their future family(remember Kyrie?), how her and Nero are still together, even in DMC5? Well, maybe in 6, they get married, have a family, and Dante and Vergil meet their grandkids, and nephews and nieces(I don't know how family like that works), also, Nero is also played by a former Power Ranger, and well renowned anime actor, Johnny Bosch, who's also been, Mr. Kaneda from Akira, Vash the Stampede from Trigun, Kung Jin from Mortal Kombat X, Ichigo Kurosaki from Bleach, Yu Narukami from Persona 4, and tons of other roles. But Nero is one of his best roles. Although I'd definitely love to see just a Dante/Nero game, or Lady/Trish game, filled with all the greatness the DMC series has been known for having. I mean, this year's the DMC franchise's 20th anniversary, right? So maybe someday we'll see DMC6, we just gotta wait... and be hopeful about it. I'm sure if we wait, we'll see news in the works for Devil May Cry 6! I mean; it has only been 2 years since DMC5, let's give it some time to breathe first, and give us(the fans), some time to miss the series first, so we don't get a rushed out cash grab on the good name of Devil May Cry series. And find a way to put it on the Switch too. The Switch needs a DMC game... and so do I. Ever since my dumb PS4 broke, I can't even go back to DMC5. Which was a great game. They have to port the series to the Switch somehow. Including a new one in the future. Here's to the future DMC6, and here's hoping it'll be just as great as 3, 4, and 5,(my 3 personal favorite DMC games),if not better than those. So, as Dante always says, "Let's Rock!!!!!!"
@@shawnfields2369 I grew up with Power Rangers as well, I love all of Johnny's work (I hope for an FF2 remake so he can voice Firion outside of the Disidia spinoffs) and the HD remasters of 1-3 are on switch
the one thing I disagree with about catalyst is that I thought the combat was really fun. It felt cool knocking all the stupid little guys around and seeing their helmets go crack into eachother before they could shoot you
The Sonic '06 inclusion makes no sense. It's not a reboot. It's a direct follow-up to Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog. It's not even a "reboot" in the "reinventing" sense, as it plays like a 6th console generation Sonic game in HD. Why was it even here? And the story conceptually being unfitting for Sonic? Have you PLAYED Sonic? Or read Sonic comics? This kind of pseudo-philosophical everything with the kitchen sink urban fantasy style was always the norm for Sonic until AFTER this game. What is this even doing here?
Bomberman Act Zero is less of a reboot and more like parody. (And I don't mean the good kind of parody. I mean the "Oh god! What on earth were you THINKING???!!!!" kind of parody.)
Do you want to know something. I am sick of people talking about Sonic 06. Do you want to know why, the game came out in 2006, that was 15 years ago, it is time to move on from talking about it. But even so the game had a lot of ideas that I found really creative. I want people to appreciate Sonic 06 for what is was trying to be, not what it is.
I mean…all the potential and time in the world still won’t change the fact that Sonic ‘06 is a buggy, poorly optimized game with tons of misguided decisions that irreparably harmed the blue blur’s reputation. No matter its potential, all we got is this half-baked reboot that was eventually scrubbed from the series’s canon instead of an actually good game, so of-hyucking course I’m gonna judge it for what it is.
Well did you know there is actually a fan made remake of it made by Chaos X called Sonic P06. Go check it out it fixed a lot of issues with the gameplay.
You know what I am sick of? Half-baked garbage that I am supposed to shell out money for. There are plenty of games you could excuse with that kind of logic. Would you buy a car that is falling apart at the very second you try to drive it? And would you accept an "apology" from the manufacturers going along the lines of "We are sorry, we meant well when we built this car"? Don't fool yourself, you would have every right to be angry at them, so just accept that people can criticise Sonic '06 in an equal manner.
I'm surprised that Rabbid Luigi didn't talk about more Failed Reboots, he could've made a Top 10 if he tried, there's enough to do it, like Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness, Crash of the Titans, Legend of Spyro, etc.
For what it's worth I appreciated the innovation in the crash and spyro games and enjoyed them for what they were, but they were not true spyro and crash games imo.
the irony of the "gritty" aesthetic of Bomberman Act 0 is that the story from the original Bomberman game... is actually dark as hell. The text crawl in Act 0 is not much different to the story in the instruction manual for the NES Bomberman, but rather than make the game more cartoon-ish, Act 0's developers were like "let's lean into that fucked-up story, full force!!" Stop Skeletons From Fighting did a video on Act 0 for their "Is It Really That Bad?" series, and they talk about a lot of the things that fuelled this reboot
If I recall the bomberman reboot was a result of wanting to try targeting a different demographic and was supposed to be a prequel based on the box art for the original game. It was essentially an experiment that went poorly. Thank goodness Konami actually learned a lesson for once and realized that bomberman should stay in its lane.
“Got any ideas for a new Elder Scrolls?” “How about we just re-release Skyrim for the 9th time? People will buy it and we don’t have to do anything.” “Genius.”
For me, Drawn to Life Two Realms would be on the list. I’m not sure if it’s necessarily a bad game, in a vacuum, but it’s such a departure from the past games, and some returning elements were somewhat regressed from the past entries
All of these entries are present in the Wikipedia page for “video game reboots,” so that’s more a general issue on the definition than anything on Will.
@@SWad250 when I think of reboot I generally think of more than just one game. Like Resident Evil, Tomb Raider or Blaster Master Zero. But you're right the definition is very blurry.
Sonic 06 was never meant to be a reboot. Sega just said they wanted it to 'refresh' the series and bring in new fans while still maintaining the continuity of the previous games, and it's technically still canon since it was referenced in Sonic Generations, and well as Silver's backstory remaining the same.
@@supermariof0521 Sega wanted to celebrate Sonic's anniversary, the problem is that Sonic team was only given ONE year to make the whole game. Sega also spite Sonic team to make Sonic and the Secret Rings, so 06 was made by a small team. To make matters even worse Yuji Naka quit the company, so Sonic Team had no guidance at all.
Inspired by Josh's recent Top 10 video, I'd like to suggest a Top list of games with ludonarrative dissonance. Games where the gameplay and/or the player's actions really clashes with the narrative that the game was conveying. Or, you know, games with good use of ludonarrative dissonance... which would totally give you another chance to talk about Spec Ops again, haha...
I thought Mirror's Edge Catalyst's entire deal was that it was a prequel. Like, the word "catalyst" in the title should indicate that. And no Doom 3? That's an INFAMOUS one.
Funny. As someone who got introduced to DMC by the reboot, I thought it was damn amazing and to this day it remains one of the most satisfying hack and slash games I've ever played. But when I tried other DMC games (3 and 5 to be exact) I just thought "they're alright.. I guess. Prefer the reboot way more though". My reaction was the pretty much the other way around (except I liked OG Dante waayy more as a character. On that we agree).
People seriously need to stop calling DmC a "reboot". Because it literally wasn't one. Capcom themselves outright stated DURING ITS DEVELOPMENT that it wouldn't be one and they'd leave the door open to the possibility of a proper DMC5 someday, which ended up happening. Sonic Boom also wasn't a reboot attempt, nor did Sega ever pretend it was--in fact, Sonic Team didn't even make that one. None of the games you seem to think count as "reboots" in the series have been except Sonic 06, literally the only time they've tried a hard reboot of the series as opposed to a change of direction. They learned their lesson with that one's reception. RE7 also isn't a reboot, it's BLATANTLY not one. This video seems to demonstrate a poor grasp of a what a reboot even is.
I love it that Angry Joe used Blood On The Dance Floor for the image of DmC: Devil May Cry. It's honestly hilarious! Even that gag returned in his DMC5 review, and Dante as well as Nero understood how terrible it was! Mirror's Edge Catalyst is kinda fine imo. But I consider Bomberman Zero and Bionic Commando 2009 worse than DmC.
Oddly enough you can play catalyst like the original and the movement is MUCH better (besides the skillset bit , you are a runner allready, why dont you know the most basic moves?)
@@expendableindigo9639 Because the way you "normally" get the story at first is like episodes. Pay a mission, unlock spare skills and open world , next story mission. Playing them back to back when you unlocked all, is much more like the first one.
I will always say this to the DMC reboot: The gamplay is really fun, and the level design is something I'd wish they'd actually do in a future DMC game! But the characters and story are just bad. From what I understand, the decision to change Dante and such wasn't by Ninja Theory. It was actually Capcom. Ninja Theory were on board to make just a DMC game, when Campom kept pushing things further around. The Sphere Hunter put out a video about this reboot just a couple days ago. It has more context there and you should check it out if you are interested.
the problem with reboots is they only reboot the popular franchises, which by definition are usually doing good and no need to fix what aint broke, when instead they should be taking games with cool concepts that dident quite meet the mark like spore and reworking them
Thank goodness Ratchet and Clank 2016 wasn't here. Not only because it's actually a good game, but it's more of a reimagining of the first game than anything else. And I won't say my suggestion this week, I don't wanna bore ya'll lovely people. 😁
I actually really want to play Sonic 06. It’s bad aspects, especially the glitches, are an experience that needs to be had to be understood, but I also see enough glimmers of light to think that I’d have fun with Sonic and Silver’s campaigns despite those glitches. Sorry Shadow, your combat focus in 06 seems like it would be boring as hell, and it makes the gunplay in your own game look like a masterpiece. Then again, I am an apologist of the guns.
Also how about a Top 5 Bad Localization that ruined Video Games, I recall that Sonic Adventure 2 had this detail in the Japanese Version where GUN arrests Sonic as to blame for events caused by Shadow to cover up their own mistake, which was Shadow causing Mayhem, in the West it was them mistaking Sonic with Shadow which to this day is possibly one of the worst lost in translation in gaming that actually ruined the game for some.
I actually played both Mirror's Edge and Catalyst recently, and I hate to admit it, but Catalyst is waaaay better. Mirror's Edge has aged like milk. It was never a perfect game to begin with, what with its anemic plot and characters, but the art direction, atmosphere, and gameplay were so memorable. But the game play by today's standards is teeeeeerrible. The game doesn't default to 90 FOV, and you have to go into game files to change this. On top of that, the animations do not transition well between one another, even when doing a "compounded" activity that requires two animations, like jumping from pipe to pipe. Because of these qualities, Mirrors Edge is the last FPS I've played since Fallout 4 VR that made me genuinely sick. The detection mechanics are also really buggy, the gameplay is waaaaay slower than I remember, the level design is a small scattering of things that don't work, and then usually like one good option and one really well hidden equally good option, and then one "watch a youtube tutorial" best option. It's really unintuitive. Also it crashes like, alllllll the time. Maybe my bad experience has something to do with playing the Steam version though, but by review standards, nobody seems as bothered as I am.
There was also Mega Man Maverick Hunter X, a remake of Mega Man X. However, because it was on the PlayStation Portable instead of home consoles, it sold poorly and any potential sequels were canned.
@@lewdwig I'm pretty sure that Other M was the sequel to Super Metroid and the Prequel to Fusion since it's about her relationship with the dead baby Metroid from Super and Adam was dead by the time of Fusion. In the Other M timeline, though, Other M was the first time she worked with the Federation, which means that Metroid Prime 3 (which took place before Ridley's official death in Super) wouldn't be canon to Other M. Dread will be the one that determines whether or not Other M or the Prime Trilogy is canon to the that timeline, probably.
Really, Adventure 3? On this list? Even ignoring its existence in Generations, the game has never been more than a followup to entries like Adventure 2 and Shadow. The only contradictory aspect is Blaze's changed background, and that's simply because the developers had a different idea who the character was compared to the people who made Rush. Why wasn't Ratchet & Clank 2016 in its place? Sure, the game itself is good, but if you look at an objective standpoint, it didn't earn enough profit and failed to spawn a sequel. Yes, I know it was a tie in to the movie but think about this: Had the movie been financially and commercially successful, we wouldn't have Rift Apart. We would have a second movie game.
I've seen this happen before. It was because the Japanese didn't think we could handle the Japanese artwork. After all, they were afraid Americans would not take the artwork very seriously. All our retro video game box art had to resemble movie posters.
Hitman Absolution I think was a reboot and the fans didn't like it. There were some important difference between it and the last game (Blood Money) that made it worse.
Ah DmC... A game that I thought was fun... For about 5 missions. Fights get tedious, really easy exploits, and there's such a standard way of fighting every enemy that it becomes painfully formulaic, especially in harder difficulties. Combat can be fun, too bad the enemy design is pretty bad.
I kinda wonder how much of the scorn for some reboots comes from the fear from fans that the series they knew might be dead now, so long as the devs are trying to push this new iteration instead. I can imagine DmC was pretty scary while classic Dante's hijinks were still not complete.
So... question... has a game fanchise evr tried rebooting, failed miserably, and decided to keep working with what existed before the reboot, pretending that said reboot never happened? And how could that be called? A deboot?
DMC4 didn't sell as well as Will implies here. The first 3 games were exclusive to PS2 while the 4th was on PS3 and 360. When you go multiplatform you expect to sell twice as much, which is not what happened.
Far as I know Capcom had way to high expectations even thought Devil Cry 4 did pretty well but it wasn’t enough so in their eyes it was a flop and suddenly thought people weren’t really into the IP anymore. Which it think was part of the reason why the reboot came to be they just made assumptions without really looking into it.
As someone who agrees with you on Catalyst, it actually seems to have gotten more fans than the original on the subreddit and such, they’re just not that widespread overall, and it didn’t end up mattering since EA has gone dark on both versions anyway.
A lot of people do see the first as a “rough cult classic” improved upon by the sequel like you said. Also Faye Kingsley’s performance as Faith was one of the few things I liked about Catalyst, ironically I see a lot of people shitting on the original, Jules de Jongh, by saying she sounds like a veteran with no personality. In the Catalyst scene you showed she was speaking tense on purpose to sell the moment, but Kinglsey has much more emotional moments later on in the game, and there’s an early trailer of that same scene with much worse line readings.
i like to think after Resident Evil Capcom learned how to slam the brakes and reevaluate what shouldnt be done. im happy they learned... some others need this now
I love DMC - Devil May Cry, but not as they advertised it. As a reboot, it's not great. It falls into all of the traps that reboots often fall into - the biggest one being taking swipes at the series that fans love in an edgy attempt to show how much better the remake is over the original. But if you look at it as a prequel rather than a remake? Sure, there are still some issues with the continuity, but it explains a lot about Dante and Virgil's history with Mundus, why Mundus would have such a personal vendetta against the two, and it ends with Dante being at the point his character arc starts with in 3. It's still not perfect, but I feel it does work better as a prequel than a reboot.
My first thought wasn't DmC, it was Bomberman Zero for Xbox 350 on launch, because at least Sonoc 06 had good muaic and DmC had some good ideas (mainly Limbo's level design, don't castigate me fellow DMC fans).
That DMC "reboot" was such a slap to the face that it wasn't even funny. As for Sonic... well, bringing up Sonic '06 AGAIN is kind of beating a dead horse, I'd say. Also, there are WAY worse Sonic games (and games in general) than Sonic '06. Out of all the bad Sonic games, Sonic '06 is the least bad and the most salvageable. I would argue that games like Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic Lost World are way worse.
For the 100th time: Sonic 06 is not a reboot. It continues the story of Shadow The Hedgehog, which itself continues the story of Sonic Adventure 2. Leave this poor game alone.
Didn't he even say as much in the video? It's just that while it was a good game, it wasn't a great reboot because it missed what lots of people loved about the franchise it rebooted from.
Mirror’s Edge Catalyst wasn’t a bad game. But it wasn’t a necessary game. A sequel to the first one would have been *so* cool, and they chose to make a whole new game. I really hope that they decide to go back to the first game’s universe for at least one game.
Remember, people, just because a game is deemed a failure doesn't mean it's bad. It just means it wasn't a financial or commercial hit and didn't make an impact. That's why Sticker Star, despite being a mediocre reboot to Paper Mario, isn't a failure because it led to Color Splash and The Origami King.
The logic for the DMC one baffles me. Like "let's make him all cool and badass by Western tastes/standards!" and I'm just thinking... seems he was doing exactly that just fine already....
Cool by western standards just means angry in the minds of Japanese developers lol
This is where we take Capcom aside and explained to them that it's important to be yourself not try to mimic western-style games
@@redseagaming7832 We might have to talk to them about it again if that one leak of Capcom wanting to take "inspiration" from The Last Of Us 2 is anything to go by XP
@@BlazeHeartPanther yep
It's like they didn't think there was a serious market for the funny in the West.
It’s always really funny when a series unreboots
The fabled *Unboot*
The backpedal of the backpedal.
Like devil may cry and ratchet and clank
@@silverreaps6803 ratchet and clank?
@@atoaster9940 The ratchet and clank movie was so messed up it basically became a reboot
Bomberman: Act Zero is one of those games that came out in that weird period in the mid-00s that felt like it was trying to appeal too hard to the, "See!? Video games AREN'T just for kids!" demographic and failed spectacularly.
That’s quite a DUD
XD
Honestly when I saw “Failed Reboots” my immediate thought was DMC and I completely forgot Sonic 06 was supposed to be a reboot
Sonic 06 was not a reboot
@@Nov-5062 i just checked and it looks like it was intended to be a reboot
@@silverreaps6803 But it continues the story of previews games. I know it was meant to be "back to the series' roots" or stuff like that, but I'm pretty sure it was never their intention to make a total reboot, story-wise nor ganeplay-wise
@@Nov-5062 if I remember, it was supposed to be a soft reboot. Keep all the characters, but change up some of the backstories. That's why Shadow is willing to work with GUN, the organization that ruined his life.
@@absollum that's what happened to Wolfenstein. It is very confusing
“…not in a million years.”
-the entire DMC fanbase at the reboot
Which forced them to un-reboot the series.
DMC (Original): you think you can replace me. Not in a Million Years
Honestly, I'm wondering how the OG fans' perception of DMC would have changed is NuDante had instead just preened in front of the mirror for a bit and then said something like, "Not bad..." or "I guess that I look pretty damn good in white."
Hell, instead of it being a wig, just have a mop land on his head, have him give one of the above reactions, then put in an optional finisher for the next boss fight where NuDante ends the battle by shoving the mop handle first through its head so that the mop head gives the boss an OG Dante style "hairdo" while NuDante looks at it between fingers framing it like a camera and saying "Nah, it just doesn't work as well on you," and activating that finisher unlocks a joke cosmetic of NuDante wearing the mop head as hair, a full mop as a sword or staff, and two spray bottles instead of handguns and a non-joke cosmetic where he's wearing an OG Dante wig and OG Dante's traditional weapons.
You know the funny thing about that scene?
Spoilers for those who haven't bothered to play it fully through.
He actually gets white hair at the end of the game, when he, as the skin puts it, "awakens." It's an example of his character growth in the game, going from being selfish and not caring about helping people to growing an attachment to his brother and Kat, to when Vergil turns on the both of them, he declares himself the protector of the people.
You'd be surprised at the effort put into DmC if you actually opted to take off the rose glasses and look past the edgy shit. I mean, you looked past when OG Dante got stabbed by a sword and then slowly slinked up with the sword going through him and blood splattering all over like some 12 year old's fanfiction attempt in DMC1, right?
For Virgil, they obviously went back and played Devil May Cry 3 Special Edition and somehow this Virgil who did zero to no fighting throughout the entire game all of a sudden can keep up with Dante.
Ah DMC. Good standalone game from a gameplay standpoint but there's a reason we got the old Dante back in 5
tbh gameplay wise its my favorite in the franchise. BUT and this is a big BUT. YOU DONT FUCK WITH TRADITION
@@AlbinoPolarPanda They made that mistake and we got the characters we loved later on.
Changing dante, to be an edgelord
Is like changing sonic to be more like shadow.
It alienates fans who got into the series because of their character.
@@goldylover1000 It's like changing Bionic Commandos arm to be his wife... Oh wait!
Classic dante is best Dante
14:20 You just transported me back about 7 years with that classic sound bite.
And in that moment, I swear we were the fucking universe.
"Anyone want a gritty Mario reboot while we're here?"
Oh, don't worry - someone out there IS stupid enough to want that.
I really want to know what was going through the development team's heads when Bomberman Act Zero was made.
As Josh said in his Konami Fails Countdown, this is a nosedive compared to the original.
I could forgive the gritty design choice if the gameplay was good, but it was awful. All levels looked the same, no bosses, less power ups than previous games, no local multiplayer. It's one of my least favorite games out there.
Shrugs
You can check out the series "What Happened" which he did go over Bomberman Act Zero. It goes over some questionable decisions related to the game.
Yet despite it, I'm still questioning more and more on it-
Brainworms, probably.
Is RabbidLuigi's name Josh, or are you talking about someone else?
DMC may be the most famous example, but I strongly agree that Bomberman Act Zero is a screw-up on another level.
I still stand by that it could've done a whole lot better if it just became a new IP (much like DMC did in the first place) since it became so far-removed from its source material. Change the names, tweak some designs, and called the game "Damn Nation" or something, and we could've had an interesting new stylish action game series. It ain't a bad game, but using the Devil May Cry IP while having almost nothing to do with Devil May Cry really hurt it. Then again, that somehow worked out fantastic for Doom Eternal, so what do I know?
@@Lugbzurg Doom 2016 and Doom Eternal still keep true to the classics in spirit. (Though I have issues with the nu-Cacodemons.) You want a bad DOOM reboot? Check out Doom 3 if you dare.
@@CarbonRollerCaco The new Doom games feel more like Quake titles or Darksiders shooters than actual Doom games. Aside from some familiar words and designs, they seem to have nothing substantial in common with the classic titles.
Maze-traversal is gone, the campy tone is gone, the religious elements are gone, most of the classic lore is retconned. It feels like a completely different IP now.
@@Lugbzurg Capcom said that DMC 4 didn't sell well enough, and they were jealous of the sales of GOD of WAR. So Capcom said, you know what maybe the reason why DMC isn't selling well compared to the other Western games, is because DMC is too Japanese???? Lets Change everything.
"No franchise is ever truly safe"
Well yeah. Except for Kirby.
SO FAR
Though Star Allies did legitimately leave us worried for a bit.
@@CarbonRollerCaco Forgotten Land seems like a step in a right (new) direction.
Sonic '06's status as a reboot confuses me because the game makes references to previous Sonic games.
It was a scrapped idea, I think. But there are vestiges of it with some of the gameplay and story sequences being tweaks of older ones. They even reused a scene from Sonic X nearly verbatim. Sounds like Takashi Iizuka doesn't get what a reboot is supposed to be (Yuji Naka himself was supposedly rather far from the project just like with Sonic Adventure 2, explaining that game's inconsistencies with the past and itself).
Alone in the Dark 2008 should be kept “alone in the dark”.
NOW GIVE ME MY STONE!
I'm just thankful that 2010 "Splatterhouse" reboot is righfully *not* considered a failure.
I had fun playing that trashy game, it was quite cool.
Glad i wasn't the only one who remembered that game.
It embraced the identity of the series with some modern gameplay mixed in, it might be a bit janky but it suits the horror style.
@@Catkeeper I'd like a remaster of it. Being able to play it on Switch would've been great. It is not awesome, per se, I just remember it being really great in quenching whatever anger or frustration I had. Although the amount of blood and body parts on screen made for pretty messy fps count.
Funnily enough about DMC: Devil May Cry. Ninja Theory actually was going to make the game more similar to the original, but Capcom said no.
I'm not even a DMC fan but the existence of 5 delights me because until then I'd considered a reboot basically a death sentence for that old continuity you loved. Now along with Crash 4, I have some semblance of hope for Ape Escape.
I almost always seem to forget Bomberman Act Zero existed whenever one of these lists comes up, like some sort of defence mechanism in my brain.
I've got to wonder how long a list of good reboots would actually be, though I'd want Tomb Raider Legend on that list of the 2013 reboot, is an underrated gem.
Killer Instinct 2013 is GODLIKE (Combo).
I wouldn't have put Sonic 06 on here because while some of the initial statements talked about it being a reboot, the game made literally no attempt to do that in any way at all besides MAYBE the ending if you feel like calling it that, but that's like calling the Sonic and MegaMan crossover comic a reboot of Archie Sonic because that's how IT ended, but that's just not what a reboot is.
I mean, even the ending was just it rebooting itself out of existence target than rebooting the series as a whole.
Tbf, shadow’s role only made sense if 06 was a reboot.
@@galfinsp7216 That's a theory at least, but that has to ignore the rest of the game too, among other things. To me it's more to do with the whole game's story being a mess in itself. Like "we need Shadow here, but how do we do it? eh make him an agent, the kids won't care."
Rabbidluigi is honestly one of the most consistent youtubers still after 10 years. He never changed he just got better.
I guess you could say he never made the mistake of.... Rebooting his channel?
Sometimes I wonder what the Sonic series would be like had '06 actually been finished, and not rushed out in a broken mess. The story's actually pretty good, especially Shadow's and Silver's stories.
The problem is Sonic's campaign. It feels more like a side story, which isn't great considering he's the main character. But the worse part is the awkward romance between Sonic and a human princess. Even ignoring the obvious, it feels forced and unnecessary
God I remember beating dmc 4 and being hyped when I heard they were making another one. The confusion and despair I felt playing the reboot was intense. I am so glad they got their shit together and made dmc 5
It’s humorous to think that Dmc was the kind of Reboot that due it not going as well as capcom hoped they decided to go back to og continuity with Devil may cry 5 , I mean what other gaming reboot was capable of doing something like that ?(please tell me )
Ratchet 2016?
@@diegobendinelli2680 You see the thing with that was Insomniac only really made it to not only be a re imagining of the first game but also a tie in for the upcoming film adaptation , it was never meant to be anything more than just that .
Prince of Persia.
@@ratchetxtreme6591 thank god
@Ratchetxtreme 65
Megaman.
The funny thing about the Alone in the Dark reboot is that there was actually 2 different versions. The ps3/360 version you showed and the PS2/Wii port also which is even worse. I actually think the main reboot did have lots of potential as I remember actually being really looking forward to the game even though at the time of release I could only get my hands on the ps2 version.
Actually I have a lot of fun with the PS2 version of alone in the dark but I really wish they'd kept to the same play style as alone in the dark the new nightmare
I got too hyped for and was utterly let down by Golden Axe: Beast Rider.
Dragon's Crown is the true successor to Golden Axe
@@lnsflare1 Dragon's Crown is AMAZING.
@@WarlockX4 It is, and deserves to be mentioned alongside the likes of Streets of Rage 2/4 for the short list of best 2D Beat 'Em Ups of all time.
@@lnsflare1 To bad people always only see the Amazon and the Sorceress from that game and immediatelly mark it off as trash just based off those two character designs even though the Dwarf and the Warrior are just as over stylized. But since those are male characters they don't count apparently.
They don't even look at the Gameplay or at how amazing some of the enemies you fight are.
@@riemaennchen I mean, the Sorceress and Amazon (and the fairy, ghosts, vampire, mermaid, harpy, crafting wizard, and cleric, at least) are definitely exaggerated in a vastly more sexualized way than the male power fantasy way than the Knight and the Dwarf (or the Conan the Barbarian analogue), except for the people who really like short and hairy bodybuilders.
It's just that it was a deliberate stylistic choice since the art style is supposed to be based on legendary fantasy artist Frank Frazetta's work, and he definitely was a fan of the extremely buxom and scantily clad ladies. Also, the Wizard and Elf classes were around for people that wanted to use characters that had more realistic proportions for either gender..
Even though Sonic 06 was ultimately just another game in the franchise instead of the reboot it was originally meant to be, it's still one of my favorite games in the series despite its flaws.
*pulls up a tour bus* And on the right you will see the rare fan of Sonic 06, believed to have gone extinct the second the game came out. *tourists snap photos*
Ah, this video was pretty highly desired I think, right? I kept seeing this in the comments.
I appreciate how you distinguished bad game from bad reboot though. Even if they *are* usually the same thing.
One of my honorable mentions is the Defender reboot for the original Xbox. In 1981 Defender basically was made with one question in mind; what if Space Invaders was more open spaced? It's one of the more popular arcade games, which makes sense with Williams Electronics behind it. They'd later go on to make Sinistar! Then when the Xbox came along, let's just say it was a huge era for classic IPs to get updated, a lot of which I played; Panzer Dragoon Orta, Jet Set Radio Future, and a definite personal favorite, the MechAssault series, based off Mech Warrior. Alright, that's where Defender comes in. Unlike most of the reboots on this list, it's not that bad. It at least had an interesting concept to its gameplay. It's a cross between an alien spaceship blasting simulator and a pseudo Real Time Strategy. Like the arcade game, your goal is to save humans from the aliens. But in the reboot, you can also bring them to a facility to get tanks, which you'll need desperately when the Manti, as they're called in 2001, start trying to destroy your crucial colonies. Especially considering your ship is a bit hectic to control and aiming by yourself isn't exactly recommended. Most critics didn't seem to hate the game, but they found it rather mediocre. So it sadly comes to no surprise that nothing really came of this; no more Defender games have been made since. And that's a shame too since the idea of dogfighting and strategizing in the same game could make for an interesting game, despite Defender pretty much being one of the more traditional instances of a failed reboot. If you haven't played it, there is a longplay you can check out for context.
They did make a GBA version that of course tried to pay more homage to the 80s game, but it honestly looks worse than the arcade.
If I remember correctly, that Alone in the Dark game had so many bizarre gameplay elements in the game that you were still getting tutorials almost all the way up to the end of the game because the gameplay and button commands literally changed depending on which level you were on and what they wanted you to do for this scenario. I think it also let you skip through entire chunks of the game without having to do them, almost like they knew how bad it was and that no one would ever want to play through it.
I love seeing all the weird but clever ways you segue into the advertisement
I liked the DmC reboot when looking at the lens of it being an alternate timeline, and with that idea I'd like to see more games in this timeline
Yeah, as long as it stays an alternate timeline, non-canon to the current DMC timeline; and as fun as it was as a standalone game, yeah; I don't think we'll be seeing another one set in that timeline. Because; it sold LESS than DMC2 did, which was the previous lowest selling Devil May Cry game, so don't expect another one anytime soon. That being said, to me personally, I don't really see a bad DMC game. I've played them all, and they're all great. From DMC1 to 5, to me, there's no such thing as a bad DMC game. Although DMC2 and the 2013 reboot nearly fall into that category, I did enjoy certain aspects of both games, for the 2013 game, the gameplay, visual style, ranking system, soundtrack, voice acting, stunt work, all good as usual. With DMC2, I enjoyed, the gameplay, combos, soundtrack, and Lucia as a character. The voice acting was pretty bad, and the graphics don't look all that impressive, as a sequel to one of the single greatest action/horror series. But to be fair, DMC2 was only the 2nd Devil May Cry game at the time, and the devs had no clue how what to do with Dante next. Same with the the reboot. But it was good as it's own game. Just didn't need to be called "Devil May Cry", is all. But I do hope we get a sequel to DMC5. But if there's another reboot, then just take what worked here, and take out what didn't work, and focus on improving what does work. That's a good first step to making a good sequel.
@@shawnfields2369 I'd love to see DMC6 follow Dante and Vergil in hell after the events in 5, but I'd also love to see Nero be the only protagonist in a game, and Trish and Lady should have their own spinoff
@@daxernsthenobody Hey, dude, I 1,000,000% agree! Nero needs his own game, like DMC4, but he doesn't switch off to Dante, Lady, Trish, or anyone else, just Nero, all the way through. Same with Lady and Trish, just a DMC game starring them, and nobody else you can play as(unless you beat the game and unlock them, like Vergil, or maybe Dante?), Lady and Trish need their own game after being background characters for so long, and always helping Dante/Nero, whoever, out whenever they can. I've played literally every DMC game, from the very first one on the PS2, to the current one. They're all GREAT. Hell, I even enjoyed DMC2 in some guilty pleasure type aspect. But I really did like what they did with Lucia's character, how they tried to make her have this serious backstory about being a demon, created by Arius, but ultimately, called a "failure", by him, so she tries to protect the people of Vie De Marli instead. Sure, it was only the 2nd Devil May Cry game at that time, but I think it's ok. Not as good as DMC1, but at least it tried something, and didn't play it safe. DMC3 was way better, and was the first time we saw former Power Rangers take on the role of DMC characters. In this case, it was the former Quantum Ranger(Eric Myers), who would become the standard voice of Vergil throughout the series, but got his start in the DMC games, here. But not the reboot, obviously. But ironically enough, another former Ranger took on the role of Vergil in the DMC reboot. It was the Purple Wolf Ranger, RJ, from Power Rangers: Jungle Fury(if you haven't seen Power Rangers, or don't care, don't worry about it), it's just something I grew up with, and to hear one of my favorite actors playing Vergil, one of my favorite characters in one of my favorite series, is just something I can't help but bring up almost every time I talk about the Power Rangers and DMC. But yeah, I can't wait until DMC6, and I hope that maybe that'll be Nero's first lone starring role, and I do hope they show what Dante and Vergil did after they escaped hell. There's no way you can keep those 2 down. But I'd also love a DMC game where you play as Dante; Vergil, Nero, Lady, and Trish, but you have to unlock them, in-game, and at the start, only Nero's selectable, but he's still the main star. Plus, after Vergil finds out Nero's his son, they HAVE to keep going. They have to. So that Nero learns who his dad and uncle are, and so they Dante and Vergil can meet their future family(remember Kyrie?), how her and Nero are still together, even in DMC5? Well, maybe in 6, they get married, have a family, and Dante and Vergil meet their grandkids, and nephews and nieces(I don't know how family like that works), also, Nero is also played by a former Power Ranger, and well renowned anime actor, Johnny Bosch, who's also been, Mr. Kaneda from Akira, Vash the Stampede from Trigun, Kung Jin from Mortal Kombat X, Ichigo Kurosaki from Bleach, Yu Narukami from Persona 4, and tons of other roles. But Nero is one of his best roles. Although I'd definitely love to see just a Dante/Nero game, or Lady/Trish game, filled with all the greatness the DMC series has been known for having. I mean, this year's the DMC franchise's 20th anniversary, right? So maybe someday we'll see DMC6, we just gotta wait... and be hopeful about it. I'm sure if we wait, we'll see news in the works for Devil May Cry 6! I mean; it has only been 2 years since DMC5, let's give it some time to breathe first, and give us(the fans), some time to miss the series first, so we don't get a rushed out cash grab on the good name of Devil May Cry series. And find a way to put it on the Switch too. The Switch needs a DMC game... and so do I. Ever since my dumb PS4 broke, I can't even go back to DMC5. Which was a great game. They have to port the series to the Switch somehow. Including a new one in the future. Here's to the future DMC6, and here's hoping it'll be just as great as 3, 4, and 5,(my 3 personal favorite DMC games),if not better than those. So, as Dante always says, "Let's Rock!!!!!!"
@@shawnfields2369 I grew up with Power Rangers as well, I love all of Johnny's work (I hope for an FF2 remake so he can voice Firion outside of the Disidia spinoffs) and the HD remasters of 1-3 are on switch
the one thing I disagree with about catalyst is that I thought the combat was really fun. It felt cool knocking all the stupid little guys around and seeing their helmets go crack into eachother before they could shoot you
The Sonic '06 inclusion makes no sense. It's not a reboot. It's a direct follow-up to Sonic Heroes and Shadow the Hedgehog. It's not even a "reboot" in the "reinventing" sense, as it plays like a 6th console generation Sonic game in HD. Why was it even here?
And the story conceptually being unfitting for Sonic? Have you PLAYED Sonic? Or read Sonic comics? This kind of pseudo-philosophical everything with the kitchen sink urban fantasy style was always the norm for Sonic until AFTER this game.
What is this even doing here?
Bomberman Act Zero is less of a reboot and more like parody. (And I don't mean the good kind of parody.
I mean the "Oh god! What on earth were you THINKING???!!!!" kind of parody.)
DmC was such a trainwreck that Capcom basically made DMC5 as apology for it. And it was a damn good apology.
An FPS where most of the skill was in movement, not reticle placement, would be awesome.
You mean Golden Eye 64?
Model size variety
I wanna play a Magnum Midget!
“Recoil? Gimme a mug and ah’llchug it!”
XD
Top ten games with good voice acting
Ace Combat Assault Horizon still upsets me to this day
Do you want to know something. I am sick of people talking about Sonic 06. Do you want to know why, the game came out in 2006, that was 15 years ago, it is time to move on from talking about it.
But even so the game had a lot of ideas that I found really creative. I want people to appreciate Sonic 06 for what is was trying to be, not what it is.
I mean…all the potential and time in the world still won’t change the fact that Sonic ‘06 is a buggy, poorly optimized game with tons of misguided decisions that irreparably harmed the blue blur’s reputation. No matter its potential, all we got is this half-baked reboot that was eventually scrubbed from the series’s canon instead of an actually good game, so of-hyucking course I’m gonna judge it for what it is.
Well did you know there is actually a fan made remake of it made by Chaos X called Sonic P06. Go check it out it fixed a lot of issues with the gameplay.
You know what I am sick of? Half-baked garbage that I am supposed to shell out money for. There are plenty of games you could excuse with that kind of logic. Would you buy a car that is falling apart at the very second you try to drive it? And would you accept an "apology" from the manufacturers going along the lines of "We are sorry, we meant well when we built this car"? Don't fool yourself, you would have every right to be angry at them, so just accept that people can criticise Sonic '06 in an equal manner.
I'm surprised that Rabbid Luigi didn't talk about more Failed Reboots, he could've made a Top 10 if he tried, there's enough to do it, like Tomb Raider Angel of Darkness, Crash of the Titans, Legend of Spyro, etc.
For what it's worth I appreciated the innovation in the crash and spyro games and enjoyed them for what they were, but they were not true spyro and crash games imo.
@@petermaguire8139 yep.
the irony of the "gritty" aesthetic of Bomberman Act 0 is that the story from the original Bomberman game... is actually dark as hell. The text crawl in Act 0 is not much different to the story in the instruction manual for the NES Bomberman, but rather than make the game more cartoon-ish, Act 0's developers were like "let's lean into that fucked-up story, full force!!"
Stop Skeletons From Fighting did a video on Act 0 for their "Is It Really That Bad?" series, and they talk about a lot of the things that fuelled this reboot
If I recall the bomberman reboot was a result of wanting to try targeting a different demographic and was supposed to be a prequel based on the box art for the original game. It was essentially an experiment that went poorly. Thank goodness Konami actually learned a lesson for once and realized that bomberman should stay in its lane.
speaking of reboots, skyrim's getting a ten year anniversary re-release.
Seriously? They just won't fucking stop.
“Got any ideas for a new Elder Scrolls?”
“How about we just re-release Skyrim for the 9th time? People will buy it and we don’t have to do anything.”
“Genius.”
Ok real talk, not joking, how many fucking times has Skyrim been released at this point counting the original?
Too many.
Us: when will you release elder scrolls 6?
Bethesda: not in a million years.
For me, Drawn to Life Two Realms would be on the list. I’m not sure if it’s necessarily a bad game, in a vacuum, but it’s such a departure from the past games, and some returning elements were somewhat regressed from the past entries
DMC should have been a stand alone game.
I think you may be misusing reboot in some of these but the point still stands.
All of these entries are present in the Wikipedia page for “video game reboots,” so that’s more a general issue on the definition than anything on Will.
@@SWad250 when I think of reboot I generally think of more than just one game. Like Resident Evil, Tomb Raider or Blaster Master Zero. But you're right the definition is very blurry.
Sonic 06 was never meant to be a reboot. Sega just said they wanted it to 'refresh' the series and bring in new fans while still maintaining the continuity of the previous games, and it's technically still canon since it was referenced in Sonic Generations, and well as Silver's backstory remaining the same.
If they didn't want it to be a reboot, why did they completely ret con Shadow and Blaze's origins?
@@supermariof0521 Because Sonic Team can’t write for shit
@@andrewbaxter64 More like they can't maintain continuity for shit.
@@supermariof0521 Sega wanted to celebrate Sonic's anniversary, the problem is that Sonic team was only given ONE year to make the whole game. Sega also spite Sonic team to make Sonic and the Secret Rings, so 06 was made by a small team. To make matters even worse Yuji Naka quit the company, so Sonic Team had no guidance at all.
@@orangeslash1667 I already knew that.
I was afraid duke nukem forever was gonna be on here but hearing about act zero was a nice change of pace. Thank you mr. Luigi
DNF is not a reboot
Inspired by Josh's recent Top 10 video, I'd like to suggest a Top list of games with ludonarrative dissonance. Games where the gameplay and/or the player's actions really clashes with the narrative that the game was conveying. Or, you know, games with good use of ludonarrative dissonance... which would totally give you another chance to talk about Spec Ops again, haha...
I thought Mirror's Edge Catalyst's entire deal was that it was a prequel. Like, the word "catalyst" in the title should indicate that.
And no Doom 3? That's an INFAMOUS one.
if bomberman act 0 had been a free arcade game, it wouldve been an ok game
Let's not forget that number 5 was released when e3 was going on so no one knew that it came out until reviewers were talking about it
That was SMART
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Funny. As someone who got introduced to DMC by the reboot, I thought it was damn amazing and to this day it remains one of the most satisfying hack and slash games I've ever played. But when I tried other DMC games (3 and 5 to be exact) I just thought "they're alright.. I guess. Prefer the reboot way more though". My reaction was the pretty much the other way around (except I liked OG Dante waayy more as a character. On that we agree).
DMC is one of my guilty pleasures. Do i remember the story or the characters? HELL NO but man its combat is smooth AF for its time
People seriously need to stop calling DmC a "reboot". Because it literally wasn't one. Capcom themselves outright stated DURING ITS DEVELOPMENT that it wouldn't be one and they'd leave the door open to the possibility of a proper DMC5 someday, which ended up happening. Sonic Boom also wasn't a reboot attempt, nor did Sega ever pretend it was--in fact, Sonic Team didn't even make that one. None of the games you seem to think count as "reboots" in the series have been except Sonic 06, literally the only time they've tried a hard reboot of the series as opposed to a change of direction. They learned their lesson with that one's reception. RE7 also isn't a reboot, it's BLATANTLY not one. This video seems to demonstrate a poor grasp of a what a reboot even is.
I love it that Angry Joe used Blood On The Dance Floor for the image of DmC: Devil May Cry. It's honestly hilarious! Even that gag returned in his DMC5 review, and Dante as well as Nero understood how terrible it was!
Mirror's Edge Catalyst is kinda fine imo. But I consider Bomberman Zero and Bionic Commando 2009 worse than DmC.
Oddly enough you can play catalyst like the original and the movement is MUCH better (besides the skillset bit , you are a runner allready, why dont you know the most basic moves?)
Why’s that odd? It’s one of the most praised parts of the game.
@@expendableindigo9639 Because the way you "normally" get the story at first is like episodes. Pay a mission, unlock spare skills and open world , next story mission.
Playing them back to back when you unlocked all, is much more like the first one.
I will always say this to the DMC reboot: The gamplay is really fun, and the level design is something I'd wish they'd actually do in a future DMC game! But the characters and story are just bad. From what I understand, the decision to change Dante and such wasn't by Ninja Theory. It was actually Capcom. Ninja Theory were on board to make just a DMC game, when Campom kept pushing things further around. The Sphere Hunter put out a video about this reboot just a couple days ago. It has more context there and you should check it out if you are interested.
the problem with reboots is they only reboot the popular franchises, which by definition are usually doing good and no need to fix what aint broke, when instead they should be taking games with cool concepts that dident quite meet the mark like spore and reworking them
I want a gritty Mario reboot!
Thank goodness Ratchet and Clank 2016 wasn't here. Not only because it's actually a good game, but it's more of a reimagining of the first game than anything else.
And I won't say my suggestion this week, I don't wanna bore ya'll lovely people. 😁
Yeah like, Ratchet is actually likable I'm 2016
(Because while ratchet is a great character in any game except the first, he was awful in the first)
@@megatennepster3833 I can't disagree. I'm glad they got James Arnold Taylor to play him from Going Commando onward.
Im pretty sure everyone agrees that r and c 2016 had the best combat before rift apart came out
I actually really want to play Sonic 06. It’s bad aspects, especially the glitches, are an experience that needs to be had to be understood, but I also see enough glimmers of light to think that I’d have fun with Sonic and Silver’s campaigns despite those glitches.
Sorry Shadow, your combat focus in 06 seems like it would be boring as hell, and it makes the gunplay in your own game look like a masterpiece. Then again, I am an apologist of the guns.
Also how about a Top 5 Bad Localization that ruined Video Games, I recall that Sonic Adventure 2 had this detail in the Japanese Version where GUN arrests Sonic as to blame for events caused by Shadow to cover up their own mistake, which was Shadow causing Mayhem, in the West it was them mistaking Sonic with Shadow which to this day is possibly one of the worst lost in translation in gaming that actually ruined the game for some.
I actually played both Mirror's Edge and Catalyst recently, and I hate to admit it, but Catalyst is waaaay better. Mirror's Edge has aged like milk. It was never a perfect game to begin with, what with its anemic plot and characters, but the art direction, atmosphere, and gameplay were so memorable. But the game play by today's standards is teeeeeerrible.
The game doesn't default to 90 FOV, and you have to go into game files to change this. On top of that, the animations do not transition well between one another, even when doing a "compounded" activity that requires two animations, like jumping from pipe to pipe. Because of these qualities, Mirrors Edge is the last FPS I've played since Fallout 4 VR that made me genuinely sick.
The detection mechanics are also really buggy, the gameplay is waaaaay slower than I remember, the level design is a small scattering of things that don't work, and then usually like one good option and one really well hidden equally good option, and then one "watch a youtube tutorial" best option. It's really unintuitive. Also it crashes like, alllllll the time. Maybe my bad experience has something to do with playing the Steam version though, but by review standards, nobody seems as bothered as I am.
There was also Mega Man Maverick Hunter X, a remake of Mega Man X. However, because it was on the PlayStation Portable instead of home consoles, it sold poorly and any potential sequels were canned.
Does Metroid: Other M count, since it seems to start a non-Prime timeline of it's own?
I think Other M was intended to be a sequel to Metroid Fusion. Now that Dread exists, Other M has been expunged from the canon.
@@lewdwig I'm pretty sure that Other M was the sequel to Super Metroid and the Prequel to Fusion since it's about her relationship with the dead baby Metroid from Super and Adam was dead by the time of Fusion.
In the Other M timeline, though, Other M was the first time she worked with the Federation, which means that Metroid Prime 3 (which took place before Ridley's official death in Super) wouldn't be canon to Other M. Dread will be the one that determines whether or not Other M or the Prime Trilogy is canon to the that timeline, probably.
Really, Adventure 3? On this list? Even ignoring its existence in Generations, the game has never been more than a followup to entries like Adventure 2 and Shadow. The only contradictory aspect is Blaze's changed background, and that's simply because the developers had a different idea who the character was compared to the people who made Rush. Why wasn't Ratchet & Clank 2016 in its place? Sure, the game itself is good, but if you look at an objective standpoint, it didn't earn enough profit and failed to spawn a sequel. Yes, I know it was a tie in to the movie but think about this: Had the movie been financially and commercially successful, we wouldn't have Rift Apart. We would have a second movie game.
I've seen this happen before. It was because the Japanese didn't think we could handle the Japanese artwork. After all, they were afraid Americans would not take the artwork very seriously. All our retro video game box art had to resemble movie posters.
Hitman Absolution I think was a reboot and the fans didn't like it. There were some important difference between it and the last game (Blood Money) that made it worse.
I wouldn't consider Absolution a reboot. Hitman (2016) maybe, but Absolution seems to follow pretty straight after Blood Money plotwise.
Ah DmC... A game that I thought was fun... For about 5 missions. Fights get tedious, really easy exploits, and there's such a standard way of fighting every enemy that it becomes painfully formulaic, especially in harder difficulties. Combat can be fun, too bad the enemy design is pretty bad.
Now we need a Top 5 why Shrek on the Xbox is the greatest game ever created
I kinda wonder how much of the scorn for some reboots comes from the fear from fans that the series they knew might be dead now, so long as the devs are trying to push this new iteration instead.
I can imagine DmC was pretty scary while classic Dante's hijinks were still not complete.
So... question... has a game fanchise evr tried rebooting, failed miserably, and decided to keep working with what existed before the reboot, pretending that said reboot never happened? And how could that be called? A deboot?
Several series have had to take a step back. I like deboot. I can think of several that I'd like to give de boot to.
Yep, that would be Devil May Cry. Turns out a refined new entry in an established franchise was received better than an unnecessary reboot, go figure.
I really liked catalyst actually, the story is kind of bad but the gameplay more than makes up for it in my opinion
DMC4 didn't sell as well as Will implies here. The first 3 games were exclusive to PS2 while the 4th was on PS3 and 360. When you go multiplatform you expect to sell twice as much, which is not what happened.
Far as I know Capcom had way to high expectations even thought Devil Cry 4 did pretty well but it wasn’t enough so in their eyes it was a flop and suddenly thought people weren’t really into the IP anymore. Which it think was part of the reason why the reboot came to be they just made assumptions without really looking into it.
loved the dmc reboot, gameplay was stellar, may even have preferred it to devil may cry main lines
As someone who agrees with you on Catalyst, it actually seems to have gotten more fans than the original on the subreddit and such, they’re just not that widespread overall, and it didn’t end up mattering since EA has gone dark on both versions anyway.
A lot of people do see the first as a “rough cult classic” improved upon by the sequel like you said.
Also Faye Kingsley’s performance as Faith was one of the few things I liked about Catalyst, ironically I see a lot of people shitting on the original, Jules de Jongh, by saying she sounds like a veteran with no personality.
In the Catalyst scene you showed she was speaking tense on purpose to sell the moment, but Kinglsey has much more emotional moments later on in the game, and there’s an early trailer of that same scene with much worse line readings.
I still find it funny that the DMC reboot is the only DMC game I've enjoyed playing
Have you played dmc3 4 or 5
@@silverreaps6803 I tried 4. It felt like Bayonetta and I wasn't interested
@@cs82271 u should at least try 5, its the best in the series in term of combat
I had blocked that bomberman from my memory. And im not glad to be reminded except that bomberman R exists so i know the wrong was righted
6:40 Yes. Pokémon Sword and Shield.
Not really
i like to think after Resident Evil Capcom learned how to slam the brakes and reevaluate what shouldnt be done. im happy they learned... some others need this now
I love DMC - Devil May Cry, but not as they advertised it. As a reboot, it's not great. It falls into all of the traps that reboots often fall into - the biggest one being taking swipes at the series that fans love in an edgy attempt to show how much better the remake is over the original. But if you look at it as a prequel rather than a remake? Sure, there are still some issues with the continuity, but it explains a lot about Dante and Virgil's history with Mundus, why Mundus would have such a personal vendetta against the two, and it ends with Dante being at the point his character arc starts with in 3. It's still not perfect, but I feel it does work better as a prequel than a reboot.
My first thought wasn't DmC, it was Bomberman Zero for Xbox 350 on launch, because at least Sonoc 06 had good muaic and DmC had some good ideas (mainly Limbo's level design, don't castigate me fellow DMC fans).
Bomberman was destined to be #1. It is one of those things that is hard to believe even exists.
That DMC "reboot" was such a slap to the face that it wasn't even funny. As for Sonic... well, bringing up Sonic '06 AGAIN is kind of beating a dead horse, I'd say. Also, there are WAY worse Sonic games (and games in general) than Sonic '06. Out of all the bad Sonic games, Sonic '06 is the least bad and the most salvageable. I would argue that games like Shadow the Hedgehog and Sonic Lost World are way worse.
It's almost never a good idea to reboot a franchise that only had one entry in it prior
For the 100th time: Sonic 06 is not a reboot. It continues the story of Shadow The Hedgehog, which itself continues the story of Sonic Adventure 2. Leave this poor game alone.
DMC reboot Dante acts like the ignored/outcast kid grown up. Which is fine, because we have decided to ignore and outcast him as a fandom
It’s always a pleasure to look forward to your videos on a Sunday night
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how about games that were remembered as failures? not nessisarly terrible games or ones that under prefomed, but ones we remember as failed.
Im sorry but DMC was an excellent game. Fluid Gameplay and Great Graphics. And yes I played DMC 1-4 when i was younger.
Didn't he even say as much in the video?
It's just that while it was a good game, it wasn't a great reboot because it missed what lots of people loved about the franchise it rebooted from.
tbh i prefer dmc's gameplay to mainline devil may cry though yeah making dante edgy and brooding was not a great idea.
Mirror’s Edge Catalyst wasn’t a bad game.
But it wasn’t a necessary game. A sequel to the first one would have been *so* cool, and they chose to make a whole new game. I really hope that they decide to go back to the first game’s universe for at least one game.
"the one with manual blinking"
excuse me, WHAT??
Remember, people, just because a game is deemed a failure doesn't mean it's bad. It just means it wasn't a financial or commercial hit and didn't make an impact. That's why Sticker Star, despite being a mediocre reboot to Paper Mario, isn't a failure because it led to Color Splash and The Origami King.
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Mother 3 will top that list.
I'm not sure fully changing an MMORPG counts as reboot, but maaaan, Star Wars Galaxies was double rebooted, right into the ground.
What if I told you that you can love DmC and DMC 5? At the same time? I do. Sorry not sorry. 🙇♀️🤷♂️