This is worse than jail. You get no release date - youve committed no crime. The doctor has ALL the rights - and he needs money. You are the source of income
You are right! Avoid nut houses at all costs! You have a loss of independence. You can count on verbal, physical, and sexual abuse. My ex-friend, who has some mental issues, found out about this the hard way. He told me that it was like a near death experience (NDE) where he spent some time in hell for a few days.
@michaelragusa5138 Making a blanket statement like that is very dangerous. If I didn't go to the psychiatric hospital, the times that I needed to, I would be dead. Literally dead, because I needed medical intervention... Not to mention I've known so many people personally, who psych words have saved their lives. Not all places are like this, and we've made leaps and bounds in terms of medical psychiatric care.
Leaving this on a top comment, in hopes that people will understand the nuance behind these issues, as this was not addressed in the new section. Since they just want to sensationalize this, instead of giving proper information that could actually help people. 2:59 This is the biggest problem, often times people are kept because there isn't a step down. People still need to be monitored, but they don't have a step down. (not speaking about this one.obviously clues something was wrong, since he was having residents fill out paperwork that he was supposed to be filling out), Other doctors I've spoken to are scared of letting somebody out, especially when they have suicidal ideation,if they end up *illing themselves. They can then be sued. Psychiatric care, and being forced into the hospital saved mine and many people I love,lives. Almost every single person in the hospital, doesn't want to be there. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be there. I think if we had more intensive outpatient, and partial hospital patient programs, things would be a lot better. Those step-down programs, saved my life. I was able to continue to get treatment, while working on myself in the real world. I wonder if there are a lack of places in this state, like that. Even when Sarah says that she is not depressed anymore, and is no longer suicidal and would like to go home, that's not enough, in MOST cases.They have to show that you are no longer suicidal, through engaging with treatment But, the difference with her cases she actually had an outside psychiatrist. Which means she should have been released within 24 to 48 hours at the most. I went through something similar, where someone called the police on me to be punitive. I was released the next morning, because I was working with an outside psychiatrist at that point. But in general if you don't have an outside doctor you're working with, and you've said that, they have to hold you. Then if you proceed to continue to freak out while you're in there, they're going to hold you even longer. Typically every time I've tried to k*ll myself in the past, I was always held for a week. The only times it was a little bit over a week, was when they could not find a step-down program for me. Which was necessary, for me to be released. Plus the more that you ask to be released, instead of focusing on treatment, the more they think that you're going to hurt yourself. There have been many times I've been in the hospital, and people are waiting on beds and that's why they're there. But this case seems completely different. I just wanted to note, when there are times that things may not make sense to outside people, but the person actually does have to be held. Even if they don't want to. I don't want the field of psychiatry to be demonized, or for people to not trust psychiatric professionals on a whole, just because of this bad apple. Just heartbreaking to me, that there's so many people I know in this comment section, who will not understand the context of this particular situation and will generalize things(as I've already seen). Which is very sad to me, I would have thought it would have been better if they had shown an example of when somebody truly needs to be held. Then people could understand the difference. It's a shame that the news organization didn't do that, and it seems like they just want to sensationalize things, instead of giving people the proper context....😢
Because they are the government who made you sick. Every other time in world history when the people were unhappy it was called ‘oppression’ Now capitalism calls it ‘depression’ to blame the victims.
Oh yes…after I gave birth cps came to my door due to my prescription medications to do a wellness check…they asked me about ALL my prior hospital admissions for mental health. It didn’t end well for me.
@@hakimbandaru1915 What are you worried about? She's never threatened anyone with physical harm. Or committed acts of harm against others. Does she have problems? Yah. We all do.
I was in a psych ward about 9 years ago and one of the nurses yelled at me, “Sounds like you need to own up to your shit!” I’m still very shaken up by that whole experience. Psych wards and rehabs are so messed up. You definitely don’t get help. You get abused.
My parents lock me in phych wards every year or twice a year from age 12 to now 21 for months every year it really is the worst place ever you get abused by everyone patients and staff and you are there for no reason and they give you medication that you don't need to actually ruin your brain but in my country I can't even report it
The 1st time I went voluntarily due to constant pain 24/7 due to my hernia mesh implant migrating down my groin. The 2nd time I was forced into going and by this point I was experiencing stomach bleeding and vomiting up blood. the pysch dr and staff dismissed my pleas for help. My folks finally demanded that I be removed from this psych hospital and was then hospitalized for 5 days due to a peptic ulcer that almost killed me. Now whenever I have to get emergency medical treatment I freak out
@@dianabrennan8856 I'm pretty sure psych wards are supposed to allow you to call family, sorry to hear you got send to an abusive one (like half/most of em are, I'm just not sure if it's half or most, there are some good ones but those might as well be considered few and far in between)
@@Catchthiswaver Cops and courts too. There is no shortage of cops arresting people on invol psych as retaliation. Of course they deal with actually mentally unwell people as well, but it's like our entire system, healthcare, justice, courts, rehab, are all designed to make people regret seeking help. It's just punishment for profit. P.S that doctor looks like a Middle Eastern Dr. Hugo Strange, which is not helping his case.
Yes, I was in 2 different mental hospitals. They each kept me a week, which is all my insurance would pay for. The difference was the aftercare. The first aftercare help I went to was amazing. The second was a very bad joke. When I told my psychiatrist that I was put in a different psych hospital a second time, he blew up. He knew I didn't need to be in there.
I was discharged yesterday from an inpatient psychiatric facility that I was forced to go to due to “policy and procedures”. I also have PTSD, was facing eviction due to financial struggles, and felt hopeless. I did not want to end my life. I did not want to hurt myself or anybody else. Held in the ER for 24 hours, forced to the facility for 72 hours and they were trying everything they could to keep me in there. It was absolutely traumatic. I feared they would keep me there for longer, I will NEVER seek emergent psychiatric care again-and I’m a Registered Nurse. This system is beyond broken and beyond repair.
@@xdani_thethinkingnekoyou keep leaving comments like this one. Why do you think EVERYONE should be susceptible to involuntary incarceration just so people like you can satisfy your masochistic control kink. I’m confused about why it’s society’s job to force everyone to stay alive. Other people shouldn’t need to suffer needlessly just so you can get medically dominated.
While I agree with you 1,000%, I'll play devil's advocate. Before the 1970s, all it took was a doctor like this to say you were mental off your rocker and you were institutionalized just like this woman was. Terrible, we all agree. The alternative is what we have today, where a large percentage of the homeless population is mentally unstable, taking over streets, committing crime, defecating on the street and causing all types of issues. But again, in this case, it's clear the doctor found a nice little way to enrich himself and if it's proven that he never actually did anything to evaluate these people (with a second, independent person backing his findings), he should be thrown in jail with not release date given!
It broke my heart to hear that she's not permitted to go home to care for her dog while the poor animal was home alone without food and water. The woman said it's "unprofessional." This an understatement. It's not "unprofessional," it's CRIMINAL. The leadership in the psychiatric ward needs to be criminally charged!
I had 3 kitty's home alone & a new "doctor" on pysch ward wanted to keep me, indefinitely!! I finally got to talk to the head honcho, and explained I just wanted antidepressants and I was released!! I will NEVER go back to "Crazy Jail" they are a waste of time and resources!! Plus they want to drug you up with unnecessary meds!!!
@@eightlights4939 Did you watch the whole video? They released her the minute it began being investigated and never even allowed her a lawyer. He had pre-signed paperwork and it’s obvious they only care about the money. She was just a way to generate revenue.
It is beyond torture what goes on in some of these places. First time had me really fcked up what they did to me. Second time wasn't as bad because I made a lot of noise drawed a lot of attention to myself before I was sectioned... First an last time being sectioned!
The patients need to get paid as this is happening globally it's been going on for YEARS when people were thrown into psych ward murdered and raped and experimented on... That's reality. These places need shut down or watched over majorly by people who aren't sick and demented.,
If you’re looking for solutions, see if it’s physical, situational, or spiritual. Yes, we are an eternal spirit, but we do have a physical body that can have chemical, nutritional, or hormonal imbalances that can be discovered with a blood test typically and resolve with nutrition and physical activity. Situational distress can typically be handled with therapy including spiritual counseling, but truly spiritual soul issues, such as hidden trauma or even a demonized soul is very real. The simple solution is Jesus, but the spiritual process can take a lot of guidance, scripture study, and prayer. It’s nothing to be ashamed of even Peter’s mother-in-law had a spirit of infirmity. As a Holy Spirit, sooooo believer I often find people saying they don’t know why they’re telling me things, as they are trauma starts pouring out from deep within their soul or they don’t know what comes over them when they tell me, they don’t act like them selves. That’s because it’s not always just themselves. I’m now in special, if you want to know, the solution read scriptures start in the book of Mark then Luke if your a strong Christian, or Matthew and John if you need to start with the basics and get refounded on what scripture says that might be very different from what you heard from church. God is good, his solutions are accessible pray for the RIGHT help. God love YOU!
so, when your mental health makes you no longer alive. i guess thats a win for society? your family? your friends? this is why i dont care if you off yourself . lying about your mental health to medial professionals has a 100% chance of never effecting you and everybody thats ever cared about you.
Exactly, they know every day they put off that form is another $500-$1000 that goes to their business. Rehabs do the exact same shit and say you can’t leave even if you came voluntarily unless someone picks you up, and a lot of people come from out of state so getting someone to drive hours they know is unrealistic
@@elizabethbrauer1118 That’s not what she said. She said she called the police because she was suicidal. She got a good night sleep and next day she said she was fine. Mental illness doesn’t repair itself over 24 hours especially when you involve the police and say you are suicidal.
Took me 5 minutes to find out this guy has been in trouble before, for violating public health code. Was found guilty but only served six months probation and a 1k fine......What kind of justice is that????
Fr fr. Cause theyre not doing this shit to the people who actually need it like those cracked out mfs living on the streets. Anyone who can afford insurance shouldnt ever be held for more than a week no matter HOW crazy they are, they were sane enough to get health insurance.
100 percent. it is *_OPEN Crime_* openly criminal behavior, & these doctors from countries of *iffy* moral conscience (motivated by dollars) are even WORSE than the western _White Collar_ criminals. bc they have *No Heart AT ALL* (being raised horribly) they're just taking ADVANTAGE of the blatantly criminal WSTERN Biz culture
When you tell the police you're going to off yourself this is what happens... would you prefer they just let everyone who says this take a quick nap and then be sent home?
@@eightlights493972hour hold is the limit and you’re able to say you don’t wanna harm yourself then tough, it’s not their choice anymore. Stop smothering liberties of others for some deranged hyper paranoid delusions about what someone may or may not do. It’s not everyone else’s responsibility to have to suffer for someone else’s rare chicken little doomsday scenario.
Meanwhile, we can't find open beds for the patients who actually need psychiatric admission. Not only did this woman feel trapped, but at least one patient who might have wanted to be admitted wouldn't have the option while she was there.
@@TakenTook yep yep I’ve been around programs like this. This is how lazy greedy people roll the games they play. When I was in job corp I remember they would kick you out quick if they had people waiting to come in. But if nobody was on their wait list you could into all kinds of trouble and not kicked out. They also would use up your vacation time after you were kicked out meaning they billed the US government for 1 week of having a student a that wasent even there. That place wouldn’t let me leave either because of would’ve shown up as a fail on their records and they would’ve received less money for it.
Comparing psychiatric Wards to kidnapping is an understatement it is more like human trafficking because they are making money off of your occupation of their facility and sometimes people are put there against their own will and abused with no one to turn to
Even then, she only really got out because of media intervention. This is beyond frightening, and that "doctor" Nagy should not be allowed to practice any sort of medicine.
Yeap. Saying you are suicidal Def. Will ruin a lot of your chances with jobs. Never want that on paper. But it's also very important to find out why. Though this day and time. It's almost impossible to not mess up your natural flow
@@sampicanonah, thanks but I'm okay with calling cops on noisy, drunk, angry neighbors harassing everyone around them. Especially if they have angry untrained dogs. I don't want them dealing with their marital problems for rest of us to hear all day and night. I don't want them blasting music all night. So, yes, I'm okay with calling cops.
Exactly! And the frightening part about that is when the actual sadness comes out, they ask you flat out in detail if you’re thinking of hurting yourself. They tell you that they are to be trusted and that they are there to help you if you feel that way. It’s so tempting to tell them how it is, but you absolutely cannot do that. I’m so glad someone finally did a piece on the corrupted psychiatric units!
Actually not. Mental health is a serious issue where your rights get flown out the window if they suspect you are a threat to yourself or public. It's definitely a bad situation and the wrong doctor can have way too much power and plenty of opportunities for abuse. But when you sign those forms for consent treatment your rights go out the window
How were they violated? She threatened to end her life and called the police. They don't take that lightly. Or do you prefer they did? Maybe hand you the tools to do the job? You people are delusional
That happens ALL THE TIME. If you feel suicidal, tell a trusted friend, not a psychiatrist or 911. They can imprison you and stuff your body full of all kinds of medicines against your will. Without committing a crime they can take your freedom and they make money doing it. The exact same thing happened to me and is the reason I will never again try to get mental health care.
Friends can also call 911. I've done it twice, when I was genuinely afraid my friend was about to actually go through with it. Had a knife and everything. I figured I'd rather he be alive and hate me for the rest of his life than be dead because I didn't want him to hate me for calling 911.
@@_Iscreamget a therapist but always mention attempts as if they happened ages ago. Therapists have to report if you are an immediate threat to yourself or others and will send you to in patient if they believe you are suicidal. I went once for an attempt because i went to hospital not because of the therapist and even though nothing happened to me it was narrowly. Taught me to keep my mouth shut if i was feeling unwell so i didn’t have to go back. Sucks ass, but is what it is.
if you are in therapy and never say you felt suicidal in the past they will eat that shit up real quick and call 911 learned the hard way during a good therapy session
@@OscarRodriguez-ze6td yeah closest I ever came to saying I felt suicidal was "at the moment I feel indifferent towards life, like I don't mind living, but I wouldn't mind not living either."
This part! People who actually need to stay put away are set free and then ppl like this woman who had a moment and was fine was held ! This is just wrong !
I was being stalked and I called the police out of fear. An ambulance came instead, and they put me on an involuntary hold in a psych ward for 8 days. I'll never forget it. Now I understand when women arent believed about SA. The world is horrible.
I’m so sorry, I hope you are safe💙I also had a stalker, the agent from the police told me that a restraining order was only a piece of power, they couldn’t protect me.
Yep I was mistreated at a psych ward. I received news that my brother died while I was in psychiatric care for depression and they showed zero compassion. I was crying because of my brother and the nurses rolled their eyes at me. They told me I wasn’t allowed to cry or they were going to give me sedative drugs. They threw in a solitary confinement like room for 3 days and forced me to take sedative drugs just because I was crying.They wouldn’t let me call family and didn’t feed me one of the days I was in the secure room.
Providence VA: I get the best care of my Life, and I WAS a healthcare provider. In the civilian community, It happens, but see my comment below. And my comment in the main comment section.
@@jmah5553 God bless you ❣️ you are what makes my psyche stays manageable. And gives me hope Been in about 5-6 wards since I was 14 and I have really appreciated the people who showed me love. Made a hard time much easier. And in turn I made their times much easier. Made sure no one was talking poo about you. I was really particular about what people said about my nurses . Keep it up Don't let anyone of your coworkers bring you down. You are doing the RIGHT thing, even if it's not right to them. Stay classy and happy 😊 coming from a 22 yr old who's been through some crap. You keep us sane throughout the worst times of our lives. Please if no one else pats you on the back,.I hope I will one day and your management will. Nurses like you keep patients alive. You have made my life 75% better than it was before Of course I'm still working on it, but the nurses I've had before really stick on me.. Even the horribly bad ones. But the angels out weight the rest. And I couldn't thank anyone for better nurses. Keep being you and staying true ❣️😁
Medical gaslighting should be deemed illegal. That psychologist needs to have his license stricken, and the hospital staff needs government intervention. This act is 100% wrong!
@@thomgizzizthe point is, she had the right to legally sign herself out since she voluntarily signed herself into the mental hospital. A crazy person doesn’t voluntarily sign them self in anyways. Seems like she was looking for some reassurance and professional help because she knew she was having crazy thoughts about harming herself but she indeed signed herself in voluntarily which gave her legal rights to stop her mental health treatment. Same goes for a regular hospital, if you sign yourself in they can not keep you against your will, they have to allow you to sign yourself out.
@@sarahmeris literally, only crazy people go to the loony bin....not mentally ill people, dont sign them self up for a mental insitutiton. and, you are wrong....mental hospitals dont release you till they deam you are ready to be released... if you go crazy and beg to be released. you will never be released. a sane person understands, they will be let out, when they will be let out, and that will be determined, by the proffesiionals they paid, to determine, when they get let out. this isnt the betty ford clinic. THESE ARE REAL HOSPITALS. not the places celebrities go to.... yoru comment, has proven to everybody reading this, YOU DESERVE the white coats to take you away....should probably go for another visit.
@@thomgizzizPlus, what they say is "crazy" is often exaggerated to make themselves more money. For example, this patient admitted herself for depression, and the doctor marked down that she was psychotic instead so that he would have an excuse to keep her longer and bill her insurance for more money. He would also pre-sign medical forms indicating that the patient was psychotic without even having a patient yet. In my country (Canada), they have to take you to court to keep you in a hospital against your will, and it's quite rare for that to happen.
Anyone who has been hospitalized like this will echo everything this patient says. Treated like shit, held in prison-like conditions, with other patients who are way less functional, for multiple days, billed 20,000 for it
Exactly! I had to have a hearing by a judge who released me. I asked fir help. All the sudden a doc who never met me said I'm talking to voices I'm shy. Nobody in my life has ever called me shy ever lol.
This is an outrageous statement, I have bipolar disorder, I can be a danger to myself or more, without mental health care 🙄. Many other people are in this situation. What happened to her was atrocious but it doesn’t sum up the entirety of psychiatric care across the huge country that is the US. You’re putting all in the same box, it’s ludicrous and dangerous.
@@tristanbkr7332 I get what you're saying, but no, this is a very valid reason to be concerned. You can legally be abducted against your will, held by force, drugged and abused. It is a real thing, it does happen, and I hope to whatever God you believe in, it never happens to you.
They make all the records magically disappear. This is an almost impossible battle to win. Never the less I concur. I'm fighting the FBI, the state police, and the hospital 2 decades and counting later. They ruined my life causing irreparable damage to me for false imprisonment and torture as a child.
This is exactly why I dumped my therapist. She suggested hospitalization when my psych (a real doctor) never has. This stuff follows you and ruins your life
@@spencerh2860 Every time I went to a new doctor, I would watch them read what the computer they were looking at said. Some who were half slouching would sit bolt upright. One doctor almost fell off his chair, a guy I had known previously before my 'bout'. It follows you and colours everything in your life from then on. I stopped going to them, but things happen and I know one day I might need them, like in a car accident or so. I wonder what the cops have on their computer and what it says about me.
yes.. i can not join the army because i went to the doctor after being SA'd and they placed me into the mental health unit, doped me up until i couldn't even function anymore and let me go home. I was so out of it I was being a nuisance to everyone around me from the medication they gave me. I was 22 years old. That was the worst year of my life
Years ago - A friend living in Chicago went to a local "free" clinic to talk over her depression. The helpful counselor who was normally there was out for the week. She was not suicidal. She was not harming herself. Fill-in "counselor" involuntarily committed her to a different facility with which he was connected. Her boyfriend managed to get her out after 3 days. How? He pointed out she had NO health insurance. Neither did he. No one to bill. She was suddenly "free to leave."
@@0NeverEver Is there some way you can get phony papers saying you don't got no insurance? Like maybe a fake ID for a poor person with no insurance? Kinda like a "Get-Out-of-Nuthouse-Free" card. You know, like in Monopoly.
@@0NeverEver not necessarily. They actually help a lot of people get on (temporary) health insurance. But the county can also fund the treatment, in MN it's called a Rule-25.
It happens everywhere, I'm in New Zealand & their Mental Health Services are Backwards af, if you tell someone you're not feeling mentally well the Police get to come to your home & "Arrest" you aka "Kidnap" you & you automatically have no rights in their eyes! - I can't wait for Judgement Day when Doctor's like this POS 💩finally get their just deserts in HELL! 🤯 😵💫👿💀💩
I was held against my will and involuntarily drugged inpatient for 89 consecutive days. This also triggered a 14 year saga of coercive outpatient drugging. In my estimation of evil Psychiatrists are equal to terrorists who have killed. I was eyewitness to a patient death due to overdrugging. I thought she was simply misbehaving when in fact she was drowning in her mashed potatoes. Staff watched and did nothing even after she stopped breathing. That happened the first week I was there when the psych drugs had me almost paralyzed with lethargy, somnolence, and confusion. The financial and opportunities costs have never been resolved.
Did you voice suicidal or homocidal threats? Providence VA: I get the best care of my Life, and I WAS a healthcare provider. In the civilian community, It happens, but see my comment below. And my comment in the main comment section.
I used to work in high risk psych. Luckily, the company I worked for, we were Allowed to make the decisions abt our patients, & part of our decisions were based on Patient Need & Desires. That was great. That's not a common practice tho. I myself was involuntarily committed in an ER, while going in/out of consciousness from an undiagnosed Neuro condition. Scariest 3 days of my life, no Dr ever saw me, but some under-Dr. threatened to keep me there Indefinitely; he didn't Need A Reason!! I wanted to sue, but my family are also horrific ppl, said I deserved being 'locked up'. I got my Neuro diagnosis, but my family still thinks it's fake & I got put in a psych facility bc I'm crazy. Psych is The Most Dangerous place for Any patient....No patient rights
Providence VA: I get the best care of my Life, and I WAS a healthcare provider. In the civilian community, It happens, but see my comment below. And my comment in the main comment section.
There's thousands of doctors in the United States worse than him, is the depressing thing about all this. And they work alongside good and bad nurses. The system reinforces itself while the patients are more vulnerable than they have been in the past fifty years. Try talking to a normal person about this and they'll look at you like you're saying there are evil firefighters out there who start fires. They just won't believe you. Until it happens to them or someone they love.
He was probably following hospital procedure. By only firing one person and closing the case there you are allowing the rest of the corrupt logistics the medical system has manifested to remain as another bypass of accessory to a crime. We already had qualified immunity to excuse police misconduct and now hospitals can literally just conspired to systemically blame their employees for doing their jobs. This is insane.
@@meirin5316 No, insurance only paid like $16K, there was several thousand she was responsible for. She gotta pay or else they'll sue her and wreck her credit rating.
Being baker acted is so bad. They threatened to sue me if I didn't pay (I had no health insurance and was baker acted by my therapist), wouldn't give me a written doctor's note for work, and I ended up getting fired. One of the male nurses kept sneaking in my room to flirt with me and would warn me not to tell anyone. When they discovered I had no insurance, they kicked me out with a BUS PASS!! A BUSS PASS!! I had to walk from the mental hospital to the nearest bus stop. They said they were going to keep me for THREE. FULL. WEEKS! Guess when they found out I had no insurance, they didn't care anymore. It was The Vines mental hospital in Ocala, FL.
God, it really makes you _want_ to go through with ‘it’, even if you voluntarily intake for the exact opposite purpose 😓 I hope you’re doing better in recent days, much love from New Zealand🤍(where our MH system is overwhelmingly better, yet still pretty atrocious. I consider myself incredibly fortunate to have been involuntarily held less than 24 hours & not having to pay a dime)
@@xochil1621 similar to a 5150 when you say you have thoughts of harming yourself or others you are put in an involuntary hold in a mental health facility. I believe Florida is one of the few places in the USA that has something like this.
I’ve suffered from major depressive disorder for most of my life. I will never ever go to a psychiatrist again. I was forced against my will into a psych ward by a psychiatrist that didn’t like me so he ended all of my medication at once. I had been taking the medication for over 35 years. When he ended my medication, I became distressed, but not suicidal and not histrionic. When I went to ask him to restore my meds. He committed me against my will. I was stuck in the psych ward for a year. While I was in the facility, I was physically attacked on a number of occasions by other patients who were also imprisoned against their will. There was nothing wrong with them. They were just pissed as hell, fighting everyone and I was the person in front of them at the time . I almost lost my life. The baker act is a holocaust of imprisonment For the innocent.
Yes it probably will, but it will also stop people from being brutalized in those hellholes for minor problems that don’t require being locked up or heavily sedated.
@@plicketyplunk No, it’s extremely common to be misdiagnosed and over-medicated. Medical error is the third largest cause of death, and that’s also probably under reported in the current for profit disease management industry. You do realize that, don’t you?
You are exactly right, I will never ever ever. I’ll deal or not but never ever ever. The dr see’s each patient for about 5 mins each day sometimes every other day. They do not have enough time to assess and diagnose, they barely even look at you. The. You end up with diagnosis that are ridiculous. It’s all about keeping you on that floor for as long as possible, it’s terrifying to have no say.
There is no greater crime, than a medical professional using a patient’s medical health against them, for personal gain, such as occurred in this story. Good for speaking out and investigating this issue. Thank you!
Their sick (as in batshit crazy and demented), which is why they're able to readily do it. The fact that she only met with that "Dr." for less than the time legally allotted to evaluate her........and he still evaluated her, as if he saw her 3 or 4 times. Confirms that he is part of the scam that most of them are involved in. The fact that he's saying thank you, after she answered *his question. Should tell you his train of thoughts intention.
I have seen it in ER´s as well, a friend of mine had a undiagnosed food allergy. Turned out to be Hazelnuts, but we wouldn´t have found out if I hadn´t explicitly asked for a "Poke" test. The doctor in charge just chose to administer anti-histamines and adrenocortical hormone. Cause each treatment is money right in his pocket.
🤨Hmm this is "insurance" backed so it was voluntary. The anger isn't enough to show a example of true injustice. I think this is such nuanced gaslighting. 🔥✨
it is astounding to me any adult can have another adult committed to a psych hospital. be careful what you say to psychiatrists and family. they are not there to help you. i was incarcerated in a psych ward. my parents called and said i was suicidal. i was sad. but not suicidal. the police woke me up and threw me against the wall and handcuffed me. took me to the hospital. i was strip searched. given a gown that didn't close. my phone was taken. i saw no doctors. i was handcuffed to a bed most of the day. i insisted i was not suicidal. they said i had to spend the night. i was locked in a room with a plastic bench to sleep on and a thin blanket with holes in it. the tv could not be turned off or the channel changed. bc i said little except that i was not suicidal they let me go at 6am the next morning. said they had no reason to keep me. my psychiatrist was supposed to see me but couldn't make the time to come to the hospital. my psychiatrist threatened to put me back in there if i didn't "straighten up" and was treating me like a bad child. she said "i can take your phone and have you locked up anytime" i stopped seeing her. the psychiatrists are not good people. they push pills, they threaten to put you in the psych ward. they are not out to help you. i now see a pro bono therapist. we have made more progress than i ever did with the shrink. i don't trust psychiatrists for anything anymore.
If you are suicidal or homocidal. Providence VA: I get the best care of my Life, and I WAS a healthcare provider. In the civilian community, It happens, but see my comment below. And my comment in the main comment section.
Yah the motto of psych wards is: "If you weren't suicidal before you got here, we'll damn well make sure you leave feeling like you want to kill yourself"
The cops triggerred mental health problems and then perpetuated through their false criminalization reports: I will never get better until they destroy they reports: they are the crazy ones writing bS and lies about strangers they don’t know anything about: Truth
Mine is great talks to me, asks about my life, is willing to try meds I suggest and if I don''t want any she is ok with that too. Sad part is it took 25 years to find this ONE good one.
That’s why they warn against calling those suicide hotlines. People have had their addresses traced and were suddenly dragged to a mental facility, which worsened their anxiety & depression rather than help alleviate it.
certified crisis counselor here. that is exactly why I took myself off the schedule permanently at the crisis hotline. Ive found that most callers want talk therapy. the few who mention active plans to 'leave here' such as a means etc- yes they will likely get an unwanted visit from the local authorities. I just could not be a part of traumatizing ppl who are in emotional pain and often seek to heal not be drugged with pills
@DanaTheInsane thank you. I'm glad you said something. I'm so sorry to hear that. I'm 33 and I was in one for teens and it was absolutely miserable and the people were mean.
Providence VA: I get the best care of my Life, and I WAS a healthcare provider. In the civilian community, It happens, but see my comment below. And my comment in the main comment section.
So sorry , sweet person , that you are goimg through this. I also have PTSD and I know it is so hard to go through . Sending love and hope for you. Never give up.
I was a victim of the system. After my wife passed away in 2021 I needed to talk to someone so I went to the mental health department in Charlotte NC. I knew something was up when the door locked behind me when they took me back to see a social worker. I just wanted to talk to someone but next thing I know s sheriff's deputy shows up and handcuffs and shackles me. I'm driven 2 hours too Raleigh, a hell hole called Holly Hill Hospital. The commitment paperwork said I was phycotic and suicidal. This was blatantly false. They wanted to keep me for 21 days. Like this poor lady I had a cat 😺 at home that needed tending. I got a hold of a lawyer at disability rights NC. The next day I was all better and discharged. It than cost me a 200 dollars Uber ride home.
They’re know around here for it. I was held there for nine days for nothing at all. That’s all my insurance would cover and they let me go. I know a bunch of people with the same story
Jeez, that place is notorious. They have a 1.8 star rating on Google but the top reviews are from patient 'families' praising staff for being discreet and protecting patient confidentiality. Yeah, cuz HIPAA you nitwits. Patient reviews state the place is a scammy lil hell hole that holds ppl hostage until insurance coverage runs out. It should be illegal. The fact the sheriff came and took you there is nuts. They likely got paid to take ppl even if they weren't a danger to themselves or others.
The place is owned by a corporation called universal health services. Evil corporation they own 3 private phych hospitals in NC alone. There are lawsuits pending on them for a teenager dying in there "care". They have billboards on i77 saying come in for a free counseling assessment, I did and ended up handcuffed and shackled and put in the back of a prisoner transport van. I was treated better when I was picked up on an arrest warrant. Sad
Seeking help for your mental issues often leaves you more traumatized than ever. Psychiatrists are sicker than their patients, and I've never known a therapist that didn't have a ton of problems.
Comparing psychiatric Wards to kidnapping is an understatement it is more like human trafficking because they are making money off of your occupation of their facility
Notice how it is only women? Yeah... nothing with come of it. The government doesn't care about women. Neither side of our politicians or government care about women. Now if they had aired this story with a man as the victim. Well, then something would have been done the first time they interviewed that messed up doctor!
I went to the same exact hospital and had the same exact doctor. He was the sole reason why I became a drug addict. He got me hooked on Opioids and Benzos
Providence VA: I get the best care of my Life, and I WAS a healthcare provider. In the civilian community, It happens, but see my comment below. And my comment in the main comment section.
The doctor and all involved should be charged with kidnapping. You are legally considered sane until proven otherwise. Only a court can take away your rights to make your own decisions. A lawyer should have been assigned to her from the very start.
@@williambobson3369 Look up the guardianship statutes in your state. you have to be assigned a lawyer before someone can take away your rights and there has to be a court hearing. I know that they can Baker Act you but there has to be probable cause or it's kidnapping. Be careful what you sign going into a mental health treatment facility because you don't want to be tricked into signing a durable power of attorney making them your guardian if a doctor (their doctor) certifies you incapacitated. If I considered going into a mental health treatment facility I would talk to a lawyer first to make sure I understood my rights.
The psych ward told me NOT to return to grad school and NOT to go back to work. Can you imagine? They are the most unethical places I’ve ever been, and I worked for an attorney that kicked a whole in our workspace. I’m very far from Detroit where this movement is happening. I want to move from Maryland as soon as possible
I worked hard for my money when i was 17 and because of a court order and a ‘noncompliance’ filed after i nearly died from suicide i was forced to go on Social Security. Now i can’t make more than 2,000 a month in all my accounts. I tried to tell them I don’t really think i’m disabled but they didn’t care. They needed me to go on Disability to pay for an AFC home. And I hadn’t earned enough money in my life for 1,050 a month rent, so because it took from October-January I’m in debt to a residential treatment center adult foster care facility
I was held against my will in a psyche ward in Georgia for a whole month where I was abused. The hospital made $60,000 dollars while I was being verbally, physically and medically abused.
Providence VA: I get the best care of my Life, and I WAS a healthcare provider. In the civilian community, It happens, but see my comment below. And my comment in the main comment section.
$60,000. There’s this thing that if you cannot pay it, the hospital could pay the bill for you. Hospitals are pretty much tax exempt/ are a charity. However (hopefully I’m not instilling false hope), I’d say to do more research.
The evidence can be blatantly obvious.....and trust that there are those (even outside of that agency) that will go out their way to leaving you holding whatever they initiated and instigated in your life (as lies don't just up and magically state whatever claim). It takes a person choosing to open their trap, to lie and tell tales. When itnl comes to behaviors as such, it was practiced and purposely perfected before everyone here existed (well a high percentage of us)......and that behavior was not coincidental. For some, it doesn't matter who they throw under the bus. All it requires is someone needing them/coming to them.....and they will run a marathon with their stupidity. A woman once told me as we sat in Starbucks, that a lawyer friend of hers ended up committing suicide, soley based on what their psychiatrist told them. Maybe she was the psychiatrist that she spoke of.......I don't know. As her random need to tell me something as such, came across as odd. Folk be doing all type of shit, that once they've done it, it's obvious that they were clueless that whatever repercussions they encountered, would knock at ***their front door.
I went to an ER once for a case of diverticulitis (which I've been though several times before) which is handled with a large dose of antibiotics. The ER DR. said I could leave after taking 2 IVs of the antibiotics but when the second IV was almost done I called family to pick me up. I asked a (male) nurse if they could remove the IV so I could be released they told me that they were getting a room ready for me I needed to just be patient until it was ready. I told him I wanted to leave because someone was in transit to come get me. He said he didn't care and that I HAD to do what the doctor ordered. I told him that I don't work for the DR. and I want to leave. He then got angry, putting his finger to my chest telling me this WILL HAPPEN, like it or not. This of course was the WAY WRONG ANSWER and after I got loud enough to bring about 5 other nurses into the room they decided to have me sign a release form and discharge me. To leave they insisted I had to be pushed out in a wheelchair which that same nurse tried to THROW me out of it twice buy snatching it violently backwards but when he realized another patient was watching him do this he disappeared when they stood up. I tell this because hospitals don't care about people anymore, they just care about your insurance and their bottom line. Tell me if I'm the only one who feels that a trip to the doctor seems more like a run through the window at Mcdonald's than a trip to a paid professional who is SUPPOSED to treat me like a person?
This happened to me in Boston. It wasn’t until I contacted the number a nurse slide under my pillow for the HR complaint line. Same with me, within 3hours I was well enough to leave. I had also signed myself in after my marriage broke up and insomnia. This makes me sick to my stomach. Thank you for bringing this to life!
Don’t answer that question, false sympathizers try to get private information online all the time. You do not need to reveal your location to anyone online.
Don’t answer that question. You are not obligated to give private information to a stranger. Be sharp, false sympathizers often try to collect information
@@DanaTheInsane We live longer primarily because of better hygiene, water treatment, sterilization, and superior nutrition. Of course, people aren't being stomped to death by horses anymore either. If you study the statistics thoroughly enough, you'll find that what they call 'medicine' (e.g. chemical poisons, atrocious butchery, and radiation) actually kills more people than natural causes, whenever you compare them against untreated people. Worse, their terrible advice is why heart disease and cancer are so prevalent. Still believe that natural fat is bad for you, and that it doesn't protect the heart? The 'medicine' is furthermore the number one cause of bankruptcy, and that is by design. Ever wonder why they don't have a cure for anything (not even a single disease) after all of this time, when there is so much invested in research? Cures are never "approved". That makes curing anything illegal. Cures are terrible for business, after all. The industry is designed to keep people sick. Your doctor isn't your healer. He's your dealer. You might want to reflect a little more on the people that you are worshiping, as most people should. They're not heroes. Not even close. If you want your eyes opened, check out my book, "Defy Your Doctor and Be Healed". I've done the research, and it wasn't pretty.
I am a nurse and this is absolutely terrifying. Until someone inside (staff) blow the whistle and speak up, these vulnerable people will remain at risk with the next provider.
This is disturbing to me as someone who worked for a few years doing EMS ambulance transports in the area. I have personally taken hundreds of people from hospital crisis centers and emergency rooms around metro Detroit to Stonecrest, Harbor Oaks, and many other psych hospitals. The idea that I may have been part of this criminal doctor's kidnapping racket is deeply unsettling. Of course, I know the majority of people I transported truly needed help and I was part of that help - but people being held without medical reason for profit is obscenely unethical. This needs to be investigated across the board as it's almost certain that if one doctor found a way to turn this into something profitable, that others may have too. Add this to the never-ending list of why healthcare shouldn't be a for profit business in the first place.
If it helps you feel better, this situation is outrageously common. It is MOST psych hospitals. Plenty of people truly need help, but unfortunately there is no discerning the source of distress and what kind of help a person needs. Most psych hospitals are not about helping people. Period.
This happenned to my 88 mother with cancer, when she complained about the pain from her pre diagnosed cancer to doctors in her hospital. They thought she was crazy and just making it up. So they threw her in a mental hospital and I had to work very hard to get her out. Then it turned out, they mixed up the MRI scans and found the stage 4 cancer the next week.
got in two weeks after they determined i wasnt a threat. i saw the b ill. 1300 a day from my insurance....seems like enough to keep my an unwarntedly long time. but, guess what, while i was in there, 3 people who said t hey werent a threat, tried to hurt them selves and others....crazy how that works. imagine if they let her out day one, and she walked infront of a bus. that woulda been A REAL LAWsuit, not one of these day time TV ones poepl are talking about
@MikodoHizo What if you don't have access to a method of contacting such lawyers or have the compensation necessary to persuade lawyers to take on your "case". In the end, it's the same thing that motivates lawyers, that motivates doctors. That's what a "consultation" is, how much is their "case" worth based on my evaluation and experience?
Maybe if you had a better medical system, this wouldn't happen. My grandson developed schizophrenia as a teen, and I am grateful for the medical staff, who helped stabilize his symptoms. It cost nothing.
Providence VA: I get the best care of my Life, and I WAS a healthcare provider. In the civilian community, It happens, but see my comment below. And my comment in the main comment section.
Are you kidding me? This is something that has been going on for YEARS that I and thousands of other kids have already long since been a victim of. And only *now* it’s getting talked about when it’s already too late for me.
Oh they're involved alright, the feds work with these psych wards and help deliver them "patients". The feds aren't going to shut this down lol THEY KNOW. I was taken to one against my will, and they gave patients a wireless phone to call a family member to talk to them for a certain amount of time. I used it to call the police to try to get the heck out of there. They forced me to go back to my cell and wouldn't allow me to talk to the police officer I called, but instead a bunch of people came and injected me with something to make me pass out and go to sleep. The cops never spoke to me and I had to just keep a level head and wait for them to let me leave 2 weeks later.
That's "cute" to SAY, but in reality, the bottom line is that those "health professionals" opinions are "subjective".....just like one dentist saying "that tooth needed to come out" They'd NEVER be able to "prove" said person didn't "need" to be treated 2 days vs. 5 days.....cause it's subjective. It's scary AF, but that's just the truth ....one doctor says a pregnant 🤰 woman "must" be induced or c-section performed within 2-3days of the original due date.....another doc says "let's wait and see" Who's "right" and who committed a "crime"? There are no absolutes....you couldn't get a charge to stick w/o something extraordinarily obvious and a difference in opinions isn't enough, unfortunately
@@ericstewart517 Like someone else said. He admitted to perjury. He signed sworn statements he admitted weren't even filled out yet. You can't swear to something you are admitting doesn't even exist at that point in time.
“I felt kidnapped” is exactly how I describe my being held unnecessarily and against my will in a nursing home after surgery. I expected to go home from the hospital after 3 or 4 days, and the surgery went very well. Instead I was sent to what ended up being the nursing home from hell and was told their doctor (who I never once saw) could keep me there for even as much as nine months. 🥺 They also said that if I left, my insurance would not cover anything. I received no care and my recovery was sabotaged. The trauma I experienced while captive there was a nightmare. My expected 3 or 4 days away from home (where everything I needed for my recovery was) turned into 17 days being trapped, alone, without the medication post-surgery that was prescribed (had to fight for that too while in pain), and intimidated. Thank God I insisted on keeping my phone and was finally able to get my doctor and one of my former students to advocate for my release. 🤦🏽♀️
I hope she sues and is able to have a good life for her and her dog, i can only imagine being held against your will would exacerbate PTSD, not help it.
A VERY similar thing happened to ME at ASCENSION HEALTH in WICHITA, KANSAS. I was kept for 6 days after an obviously false allegation that I was suicidal. I was literally on the phone with a local news station when a staff member grabbed the phone out of my hand, physically assaulted me & threatened to transfer me to a state mental hospital if I did not "settle down and act better". All kinds of derogatory, false claims are now in my medical records, some of which have prevented me from obtaining medical care! I'M PUSHING 65yr OLD, I AM AN ORDAINED MINISTER WITH A DOCTORAL DEGREE, AND I NO LONGER TRUST THE MEDICAL PROFESSION. I will no longer open myself up to the false 'medical care' here in Kansas.
Dude it wasn't so bad you needed a vacation anyways plus the lord was hanging out with you. I wanted to stay another week but I don't have insurance. So what happened someone called because you were saying a man rose from the dead and lives in the sky and you wanna go be with him. Dude you probably might want to go back. Im in Wichita I'm just giving you crap. 😂
It's not JUST Kansas. All the facilities are under the same umbrella of regulations and control. It's NEVER been about treatment since the Rockefeller takeover of ALL US med schools....just pharmaceuticals and a lifelong "sick" model of pricey drugs that create more problems and side fx requiring more profitable scrips!! $$$$$$$$$$$
There was a famous Stanford University experiment done in the 70s that highlighted this issue. 12 participants with fake names went to various hospitals, claimed to be hearing voices, then upon being admitted, immediately went back to behaving like their healthy, well adjusted selves. Almost every participant was diagnosed with schizophrenia, held for anywhere from a week to 2 months, and perscribed a total of 2,000 pills total between all 12 of them. Antidepressants, antipsychotics, etc. Again, some of these drugs wouldve been administered as late as 2 months after the individual stopped showing symptoms of mental health problems. Many mentally disabled people avoid mental hospitals at all costs due to this. More patients equals more profit. They aren't trying to keep you healthy, they're trying to keep you on the premises. These places are known for making people LESS healthy because they are barred from taking actual necessary measures to stabilize their mental health. Their movements are restricted even within the building. These places are often more like prisons than medical facilities.
This is another reason why people do not speak to therapist because then they want to diagnose you with something that even remotely close. And it follows you forever
My French friend’s son would have been easily identified as ADHD and put on amphetamines if he was in America or UK. Luckily in the continental Europe, the teachers are not allowed to pressure parents in that way. It’s a normal growth. It’s actually abnormal to have an anal child with high “executive function” at age 10 or 13, or in terribly difficult and vulnerable teen years. That said, my friend’s son is hyperactivity didn’t cease, that’s how he is and he has been studying, skydiving, organizing student unions … no meds! He turned extremely successful, started his own business, got married to a great girl and planning kids. He is normal and very successful young man. Upbeat too. God knows if he was tagged ADHD as in serious 🧐 disorder that “needs” to be corrected by meds, God only knows if he would be normal now?! I know plenty of kids who decided to get off that - pardon my French - crap meds because it made them depressed and they hated the fact that they lost their childhood’s beautiful creativity by feeling strung on drugs and thinking that something was wrong with them. Not to mention that having kids on “meds” was a step closer towards using other drugs. We are not all the same, our mental states shift depending on what’s happening with us and around us. It would be better to have reading circles with variety of literature without ideological thematics and open forum discussions on various topics. This would be a much better and healthier way to help anyone with mental turbulences (we all have them) than meds and faux diagnostic of one or the other “disorder.” Art circles work!
Horrible Imagine being an elderly patient with your own home, retirement, social security and they put you in a nursing home and take everything you own and give you $70 a month And you can take care of your self Every single nursing home I work at as a nurse and justice system and Healthcare need to take it over and redone completely
This is worse than jail. You get no release date - youve committed no crime. The doctor has ALL the rights - and he needs money. You are the source of income
You are right! Avoid nut houses at all costs! You have a loss of independence. You can count on verbal, physical, and sexual abuse. My ex-friend, who has some mental issues, found out about this the hard way. He told me that it was like a near death experience (NDE) where he spent some time in hell for a few days.
I mean ... In a lot of cases that is *exactly the same as being in jail/prison.*
I hear some family`s use this Act to gain access and steal your Inheritance
@michaelragusa5138
Making a blanket statement like that is very dangerous. If I didn't go to the psychiatric hospital, the times that I needed to, I would be dead. Literally dead, because I needed medical intervention... Not to mention I've known so many people personally, who psych words have saved their lives. Not all places are like this, and we've made leaps and bounds in terms of medical psychiatric care.
Leaving this on a top comment, in hopes that people will understand the nuance behind these issues, as this was not addressed in the new section. Since they just want to sensationalize this, instead of giving proper information that could actually help people.
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This is the biggest problem, often times people are kept because there isn't a step down. People still need to be monitored, but they don't have a step down. (not speaking about this one.obviously clues something was wrong, since he was having residents fill out paperwork that he was supposed to be filling out), Other doctors I've spoken to are scared of letting somebody out, especially when they have suicidal ideation,if they end up *illing themselves. They can then be sued.
Psychiatric care, and being forced into the hospital saved mine and many people I love,lives. Almost every single person in the hospital, doesn't want to be there. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be there. I think if we had more intensive outpatient, and partial hospital patient programs, things would be a lot better. Those step-down programs, saved my life. I was able to continue to get treatment, while working on myself in the real world. I wonder if there are a lack of places in this state, like that.
Even when Sarah says that she is not depressed anymore, and is no longer suicidal and would like to go home, that's not enough, in MOST cases.They have to show that you are no longer suicidal, through engaging with treatment But, the difference with her cases she actually had an outside psychiatrist. Which means she should have been released within 24 to 48 hours at the most. I went through something similar, where someone called the police on me to be punitive. I was released the next morning, because I was working with an outside psychiatrist at that point.
But in general if you don't have an outside doctor you're working with, and you've said that, they have to hold you. Then if you proceed to continue to freak out while you're in there, they're going to hold you even longer. Typically every time I've tried to k*ll myself in the past, I was always held for a week. The only times it was a little bit over a week, was when they could not find a step-down program for me. Which was necessary, for me to be released. Plus the more that you ask to be released, instead of focusing on treatment, the more they think that you're going to hurt yourself.
There have been many times I've been in the hospital, and people are waiting on beds and that's why they're there. But this case seems completely different.
I just wanted to note, when there are times that things may not make sense to outside people, but the person actually does have to be held. Even if they don't want to. I don't want the field of psychiatry to be demonized, or for people to not trust psychiatric professionals on a whole, just because of this bad apple.
Just heartbreaking to me, that there's so many people I know in this comment section, who will not understand the context of this particular situation and will generalize things(as I've already seen). Which is very sad to me, I would have thought it would have been better if they had shown an example of when somebody truly needs to be held. Then people could understand the difference. It's a shame that the news organization didn't do that, and it seems like they just want to sensationalize things, instead of giving people the proper context....😢
People get punished for seeking help and you CANNOT change my mind.
absolutely!
Because they are the government who made you sick.
Every other time in world history when the people were unhappy it was called ‘oppression’
Now capitalism calls it ‘depression’ to blame the victims.
Oh yes…after I gave birth cps came to my door due to my prescription medications to do a wellness check…they asked me about ALL my prior hospital admissions for mental health. It didn’t end well for me.
facts... really sad...
@@FrannieMaeB5150 not being sane enough to keep yourself out of a mental hospital....sorta proves you deserve to be there....
truth goes a long way.
“I no longer trust medical professionals to have my best interests at heart.”
She is saner than they.
How many boosts?
I would feel much safer if she stayed in the facility - she looks very unstable.
@@hakimbandaru1915 What are you worried about? She's never threatened anyone with physical harm. Or committed acts of harm against others. Does she have problems? Yah. We all do.
@FaithG-tx2hw Anti-depressants aka Capitalisms Band-Aid.
@@Skeletron1000 You do realize that he is being sarcastic, right?
I was in a psych ward about 9 years ago and one of the nurses yelled at me, “Sounds like you need to own up to your shit!” I’m still very shaken up by that whole experience. Psych wards and rehabs are so messed up. You definitely don’t get help. You get abused.
jesus
My parents lock me in phych wards every year or twice a year from age 12 to now 21 for months every year it really is the worst place ever you get abused by everyone patients and staff and you are there for no reason and they give you medication that you don't need to actually ruin your brain but in my country I can't even report it
they dont help. i was in 1 and they wouldnt let me call family or anyone to let them know where i was
The 1st time I went voluntarily due to constant pain 24/7 due to my hernia mesh implant migrating down my groin. The 2nd time I was forced into going and by this point I was experiencing stomach bleeding and vomiting up blood. the pysch dr and staff dismissed my pleas for help. My folks finally demanded that I be removed from this psych hospital and was then hospitalized for 5 days due to a peptic ulcer that almost killed me. Now whenever I have to get emergency medical treatment I freak out
@@dianabrennan8856 I'm pretty sure psych wards are supposed to allow you to call family, sorry to hear you got send to an abusive one (like half/most of em are, I'm just not sure if it's half or most, there are some good ones but those might as well be considered few and far in between)
This should be a criminal investigation for insurance fraud. The doctor can be prosecuted, do some time in prison & lose his license.
There is. Just call insurance co and tell themyou were held and make dr pay.
This happens with every person. No point.
You are money. They do not care.
99.99% is insurance fraud
Along with falsifying medical records !!! Where is the licensing department???
@@rnupnorthbrrrsm6123 They always falsify the records to cover their tracks after a commitment.
its clear, they are taking advantage of billing insurance by technicalities. They are not healers, they are stealers.
The insurance is in on it as well
@@Catchthiswaver Cops and courts too. There is no shortage of cops arresting people on invol psych as retaliation. Of course they deal with actually mentally unwell people as well, but it's like our entire system, healthcare, justice, courts, rehab, are all designed to make people regret seeking help. It's just punishment for profit.
P.S that doctor looks like a Middle Eastern Dr. Hugo Strange, which is not helping his case.
Exactly! If there’s no insurance to bill and no money to be made, they will boot one out in 24 hours regardless of their condition!
HOSPITALS ARE DEATH CAMPS.
Yes, I was in 2 different mental hospitals. They each kept me a week, which is all my insurance would pay for. The difference was the aftercare. The first aftercare help I went to was amazing. The second was a very bad joke.
When I told my psychiatrist that I was put in a different psych hospital a second time, he blew up. He knew I didn't need to be in there.
I was discharged yesterday from an inpatient psychiatric facility that I was forced to go to due to “policy and procedures”. I also have PTSD, was facing eviction due to financial struggles, and felt hopeless. I did not want to end my life. I did not want to hurt myself or anybody else. Held in the ER for 24 hours, forced to the facility for 72 hours and they were trying everything they could to keep me in there. It was absolutely traumatic. I feared they would keep me there for longer, I will NEVER seek emergent psychiatric care again-and I’m a Registered Nurse. This system is beyond broken and beyond repair.
But how did you end up there in the first place? Did you ask to be hospitalized or did someone call the police on you to collect you?
What a coincidence this happened to you just now.
@@plicketyplunk in other words you don't believe her.
@hellothere98765
This is completely inaccurate. Some holds are necessary. If I wasn't forced into the hospital I would be dead.
@@xdani_thethinkingnekoyou keep leaving comments like this one. Why do you think EVERYONE should be susceptible to involuntary incarceration just so people like you can satisfy your masochistic control kink. I’m confused about why it’s society’s job to force everyone to stay alive. Other people shouldn’t need to suffer needlessly just so you can get medically dominated.
I admire the patients courage in speaking out against psychiatric abuse. She knew her long term admission was bogus.
You felt kidnapped because you were kidnapped, and that "Doctor" needs to be charged as a kidnapper.
Definitely.
JAIL For 20 Yrs for INS FRAUD !! .. Screw That Loser !
False imprisonment.
They will ruin your life forever
While I agree with you 1,000%, I'll play devil's advocate. Before the 1970s, all it took was a doctor like this to say you were mental off your rocker and you were institutionalized just like this woman was. Terrible, we all agree. The alternative is what we have today, where a large percentage of the homeless population is mentally unstable, taking over streets, committing crime, defecating on the street and causing all types of issues.
But again, in this case, it's clear the doctor found a nice little way to enrich himself and if it's proven that he never actually did anything to evaluate these people (with a second, independent person backing his findings), he should be thrown in jail with not release date given!
Imagine what it did to her mental health to have her dog at home potentially dying of thirst.
Poor dog
The toilet is always available 🤷🏼♀️
@@Angiekrainn If the lid is up.
I know thank God he was ok. They could have at least helped her secure someone to go feed the dog.
That's exactly 💯 what I thought!!! Omg
It broke my heart to hear that she's not permitted to go home to care for her dog while the poor animal was home alone without food and water. The woman said it's "unprofessional." This an understatement. It's not "unprofessional," it's CRIMINAL. The leadership in the psychiatric ward needs to be criminally charged!
Well said!
I had 3 kitty's home alone & a new "doctor" on pysch ward wanted to keep me, indefinitely!! I finally got to talk to the head honcho, and explained I just wanted antidepressants and I was released!! I will NEVER go back to "Crazy Jail" they are a waste of time and resources!! Plus they want to drug you up with unnecessary meds!!!
Exes. You suck as well
They cannot be held liable for that legally, it’s her responsibility to call someone on the outside and ensure her pet is taken care of
@@TVY2013you are very stupid if you agree with this person, I have no doubt in my mind
He should be jailed for kidnapping and psychological torture.
She called the police because she thought she would off herself. They aren't going to release someone the day after... use your mind
@@eightlights4939stop. Just stop. This isn’t a devils advocate situation. This is highly illegal.
@@eightlights4939 Did you watch the whole video? They released her the minute it began being investigated and never even allowed her a lawyer. He had pre-signed paperwork and it’s obvious they only care about the money. She was just a way to generate revenue.
@@eightlights4939 did you even watch the video
@@eightlights4939 She said she didn't have suicidal ideation......
They kidnapped and tortured her. Then they sent her a bill for doing so. 💀
It is beyond torture what goes on in some of these places. First time had me really fcked up what they did to me. Second time wasn't as bad because I made a lot of noise drawed a lot of attention to myself before I was sectioned... First an last time being sectioned!
@@Aurian_Luna_Lou They helped you and fixed you. Be grateful.
They've been doing this for a long time.
It should have been talked about way more decades ago.
Make sure to leave a google review
She's a nutcase
What is abusive is $16 000 for a few days , there is no reasons why it would cost that much !
If they held me against my will, NO WAY I’d be paying that
@@Cafeallday222 her insurance paid. That's why they do this. This would never happen to a completely uninsured person. They go for deep pockets.
@@Cafeallday222you don’t have a choice, they will sue you if you don’t pay. Your credit score will also be bad.
@@Cafeallday222they (IRS) will also garnish your wages.
If you don’t want to be involuntary hospitalized, don’t do anything crazy. It’s really simple.
It costs $11,000 per day to stay in the emergency department but no one is ever complaining about that
This doctor needs to lose his license and pay back the insurance company and Medicare
The patients need to get paid as this is happening globally it's been going on for YEARS when people were thrown into psych ward murdered and raped and experimented on... That's reality. These places need shut down or watched over majorly by people who aren't sick and demented.,
what about the people he hurt ?
He needs to be tried for kidnapping. No way around it
They have been doing this shit for years. Take it from me.
Amen, he's the definition of a quack
This is exactly why I do not discuss my mental health with any Healthcare worker. It will always be used against you.
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100%
so, when your mental health makes you no longer alive.
i guess thats a win for society? your family? your friends?
this is why i dont care if you off yourself . lying about your mental health to medial professionals has a 100% chance of never effecting you and everybody thats ever cared about you.
It’s not a lie.
Is it even private at all? …no
They held her for ransom, expecting the insurance company to pay the ransom. It's gross. Get paid.
Exactly, they know every day they put off that form is another $500-$1000 that goes to their business. Rehabs do the exact same shit and say you can’t leave even if you came voluntarily unless someone picks you up, and a lot of people come from out of state so getting someone to drive hours they know is unrealistic
She called 911 and said she’s suicidal….now she’s blaming the hospital for charging her money to keep her alive?
This @@experienceofchris1108
@@AngelaYaun you weren't listening - she was sleep deprived, not mentally ill.
@@elizabethbrauer1118 That’s not what she said. She said she called the police because she was suicidal. She got a good night sleep and next day she said she was fine. Mental illness doesn’t repair itself over 24 hours especially when you involve the police and say you are suicidal.
Took me 5 minutes to find out this guy has been in trouble before, for violating public health code. Was found guilty but only served six months probation and a 1k fine......What kind of justice is that????
Probably a glowie asset.
And why is he still in his position as a Dr?
@@crackthefoundation_ Medical Review Board is likely corrupt in that state.
The same justice given to pharmaceutical companies for lying about drug trials and bribing doctors , a fine and off they go .
The facility was banking on her stay.
"It's not personal, it's business. Profits over all."
Happens in nursing facilities, too
Fr fr. Cause theyre not doing this shit to the people who actually need it like those cracked out mfs living on the streets. Anyone who can afford insurance shouldnt ever be held for more than a week no matter HOW crazy they are, they were sane enough to get health insurance.
Very true.
100 percent. it is *_OPEN Crime_*
openly criminal behavior, & these doctors from countries of *iffy* moral conscience (motivated by dollars) are even WORSE than the western _White Collar_ criminals. bc they have *No Heart AT ALL* (being raised horribly)
they're just taking ADVANTAGE of the blatantly criminal WSTERN Biz culture
see: *_Dr Fauchey_* (or However the hell you spell his name)
A medical provider violating someone’s rights? I’m not surprised
If you’re not allowed to leave and you want to leave you are being held against your will.
They can keep you if a judge signs off on "danger to himself or others".
When you tell the police you're going to off yourself this is what happens... would you prefer they just let everyone who says this take a quick nap and then be sent home?
@@eightlights4939 😂
@@eightlights493972hour hold is the limit and you’re able to say you don’t wanna harm yourself then tough, it’s not their choice anymore. Stop smothering liberties of others for some deranged hyper paranoid delusions about what someone may or may not do. It’s not everyone else’s responsibility to have to suffer for someone else’s rare chicken little doomsday scenario.
@@eightlights4939 Maybe it would be better if suicide wasn't unlawful anymore.
Meanwhile, we can't find open beds for the patients who actually need psychiatric admission. Not only did this woman feel trapped, but at least one patient who might have wanted to be admitted wouldn't have the option while she was there.
Those ones cost to much to help and don’t have insurance
@@dustintacohands1107 -- exactly, I'm wondering if the patients kept there longer against their will are the ones who have the good insurance
@@TakenTook yep yep I’ve been around programs like this. This is how lazy greedy people roll the games they play.
When I was in job corp I remember they would kick you out quick if they had people waiting to come in. But if nobody was on their wait list you could into all kinds of trouble and not kicked out. They also would use up your vacation time after you were kicked out meaning they billed the US government for 1 week of having a student a that wasent even there.
That place wouldn’t let me leave either because of would’ve shown up as a fail on their records and they would’ve received less money for it.
Comparing psychiatric Wards to kidnapping is an understatement it is more like human trafficking because they are making money off of your occupation of their facility and sometimes people are put there against their own will and abused with no one to turn to
@@TakenTookThis is EXACTLY what happens. Don’t ask me how I know this…
Taking advantage of vulnerable people is vile. Thank God this woman was smart enough to defend herself and prevent others.
They charged her 16000 dollars.
Typical.
The police, doctors, media= all for profit
Even then, she only really got out because of media intervention. This is beyond frightening, and that "doctor" Nagy should not be allowed to practice any sort of medicine.
This explains why some people are terrified to ask for help. I would NEVER ask for help after hearing this story.
Yeap. Saying you are suicidal Def. Will ruin a lot of your chances with jobs. Never want that on paper. But it's also very important to find out why. Though this day and time. It's almost impossible to not mess up your natural flow
Lesson learned: Everyone needs at least one journalist as a friend.
What are you on about? Journalists are scum.
Doesn’t need to be a journalist OR friend; call your local news station and they’ll send someone to check out your situation.
I'll be your friend, friend.
Harmonk8012 creep
@@leslieschott754 that doesn't always work mainstream news stations have a narrative they wanna push
Rule # 1 …..Never call the cops on yourself.
or at all...
@@sampicanonah, thanks but I'm okay with calling cops on noisy, drunk, angry neighbors harassing everyone around them. Especially if they have angry untrained dogs. I don't want them dealing with their marital problems for rest of us to hear all day and night. I don't want them blasting music all night. So, yes, I'm okay with calling cops.
Exactly! And the frightening part about that is when the actual sadness comes out, they ask you flat out in detail if you’re thinking of hurting yourself. They tell you that they are to be trusted and that they are there to help you if you feel that way. It’s so tempting to tell them how it is, but you absolutely cannot do that. I’m so glad someone finally did a piece on the corrupted psychiatric units!
Sucks when people REALLY need help but don't get it because places like this.
Only call the cops on your enemies.
Her civil rights were violated. This is criminal.
Actually not. Mental health is a serious issue where your rights get flown out the window if they suspect you are a threat to yourself or public. It's definitely a bad situation and the wrong doctor can have way too much power and plenty of opportunities for abuse. But when you sign those forms for consent treatment your rights go out the window
@@jorgejiminez-rk1uume too. 6 months
That’s the same for millions of people
How were they violated? She threatened to end her life and called the police. They don't take that lightly. Or do you prefer they did? Maybe hand you the tools to do the job? You people are delusional
That happens ALL THE TIME. If you feel suicidal, tell a trusted friend, not a psychiatrist or 911. They can imprison you and stuff your body full of all kinds of medicines against your will. Without committing a crime they can take your freedom and they make money doing it. The exact same thing happened to me and is the reason I will never again try to get mental health care.
Friends can also call 911. I've done it twice, when I was genuinely afraid my friend was about to actually go through with it. Had a knife and everything. I figured I'd rather he be alive and hate me for the rest of his life than be dead because I didn't want him to hate me for calling 911.
@@courtneym75I dunno. That’s a fine line.
A psychiatrist is different from a therapist. You can and should get a therapist.
@@_Iscreamget a therapist but always mention attempts as if they happened ages ago. Therapists have to report if you are an immediate threat to yourself or others and will send you to in patient if they believe you are suicidal.
I went once for an attempt because i went to hospital not because of the therapist and even though nothing happened to me it was narrowly. Taught me to keep my mouth shut if i was feeling unwell so i didn’t have to go back. Sucks ass, but is what it is.
I get mental heath care even had help with suicidal idealization. You had bad doctors. Not been behind the door since 85,
Shit like this is why I will never call 911 when I'm depressed,, I'd rather die than be held in an asylum against my will.
Yep 👍
Me too.
if you are in therapy and never say you felt suicidal in the past they will eat that shit up real quick and call 911 learned the hard way during a good therapy session
@@OscarRodriguez-ze6td yeah closest I ever came to saying I felt suicidal was "at the moment I feel indifferent towards life, like I don't mind living, but I wouldn't mind not living either."
I've visited people in there. It's the most depressing place, unironically
I don’t understand this. People who are violent and have mental problems are walking around free.
they don’t have insurance
@@scroogemcduckrich9705 bingo
$0 = zero care
This part! People who actually need to stay put away are set free and then ppl like this woman who had a moment and was fine was held ! This is just wrong !
@@scroogemcduckrich9705 those people go to jail overnight, then get released into the wild again
She was kidnapped and extorted.
I was being stalked and I called the police out of fear. An ambulance came instead, and they put me on an involuntary hold in a psych ward for 8 days.
I'll never forget it. Now I understand when women arent believed about SA.
The world is horrible.
I’m so sorry, I hope you are safe💙I also had a stalker, the agent from the police told me that a restraining order was only a piece of power, they couldn’t protect me.
Yep I was mistreated at a psych ward. I received news that my brother died while I was in psychiatric care for depression and they showed zero compassion. I was crying because of my brother and the nurses rolled their eyes at me. They told me I wasn’t allowed to cry or they were going to give me sedative drugs. They threw in a solitary confinement like room for 3 days and forced me to take sedative drugs just because I was crying.They wouldn’t let me call family and didn’t feed me one of the days I was in the secure room.
Providence VA: I get the best care of my Life, and I WAS a healthcare provider. In the civilian community, It happens, but see my comment below. And my comment in the main comment section.
@@nacholibreriyoure a healthcare provider, definitely on these guys side
Lies
@sungreenshinebright8553 Why would you say that? You think nobody gets mistreated in psych wards?
@@jmah5553 God bless you ❣️ you are what makes my psyche stays manageable. And gives me hope
Been in about 5-6 wards since I was 14 and I have really appreciated the people who showed me love. Made a hard time much easier. And in turn I made their times much easier. Made sure no one was talking poo about you. I was really particular about what people said about my nurses . Keep it up
Don't let anyone of your coworkers bring you down. You are doing the RIGHT thing, even if it's not right to them. Stay classy and happy 😊 coming from a 22 yr old who's been through some crap. You keep us sane throughout the worst times of our lives. Please if no one else pats you on the back,.I hope I will one day and your management will. Nurses like you keep patients alive. You have made my life 75% better than it was before
Of course I'm still working on it, but the nurses I've had before really stick on me..
Even the horribly bad ones. But the angels out weight the rest. And I couldn't thank anyone for better nurses. Keep being you and staying true ❣️😁
That doctor is a criminal. He needs to be held accountable. Class action lawsuit.
Exactly! The Dr says you are not well mentally until we get 16k from your insurance.😳🙄🙄
Medical gaslighting should be deemed illegal. That psychologist needs to have his license stricken, and the hospital staff needs government intervention. This act is 100% wrong!
Do you think crazy people know they are crazy? Every single last one of them will say that they are fine and don't need help.
@@thomgizzizthe point is, she had the right to legally sign herself out since she voluntarily signed herself into the mental hospital. A crazy person doesn’t voluntarily sign them self in anyways. Seems like she was looking for some reassurance and professional help because she knew she was having crazy thoughts about harming herself but she indeed signed herself in voluntarily which gave her legal rights to stop her mental health treatment. Same goes for a regular hospital, if you sign yourself in they can not keep you against your will, they have to allow you to sign yourself out.
@@thomgizziz when this poor girl takes the easy way out, everbody in her life will still claim they never saw it coming.
@@sarahmeris literally, only crazy people go to the loony bin....not mentally ill people, dont sign them self up for a mental insitutiton.
and, you are wrong....mental hospitals dont release you till they deam you are ready to be released...
if you go crazy and beg to be released. you will never be released.
a sane person understands, they will be let out, when they will be let out, and that will be determined, by the proffesiionals they paid, to determine, when they get let out.
this isnt the betty ford clinic. THESE ARE REAL HOSPITALS. not the places celebrities go to....
yoru comment, has proven to everybody reading this, YOU DESERVE the white coats to take you away....should probably go for another visit.
@@thomgizzizPlus, what they say is "crazy" is often exaggerated to make themselves more money. For example, this patient admitted herself for depression, and the doctor marked down that she was psychotic instead so that he would have an excuse to keep her longer and bill her insurance for more money. He would also pre-sign medical forms indicating that the patient was psychotic without even having a patient yet.
In my country (Canada), they have to take you to court to keep you in a hospital against your will, and it's quite rare for that to happen.
Anyone who has been hospitalized like this will echo everything this patient says. Treated like shit, held in prison-like conditions, with other patients who are way less functional, for multiple days, billed 20,000 for it
Yes, this
It's practically word for word compared to what I went through. It's terrifying
Knowing this, why would ANYONE seek mental health care?
Exactly! I had to have a hearing by a judge who released me. I asked fir help. All the sudden a doc who never met me said I'm talking to voices I'm shy. Nobody in my life has ever called me shy ever lol.
It can be done without voluntary seeing mental health of own accord.
Because not everywhere is the same and some people get actual help when they seek it. 🤷♀️
This is an outrageous statement, I have bipolar disorder, I can be a danger to myself or more, without mental health care 🙄. Many other people are in this situation. What happened to her was atrocious but it doesn’t sum up the entirety of psychiatric care across the huge country that is the US. You’re putting all in the same box, it’s ludicrous and dangerous.
@@tristanbkr7332 I get what you're saying, but no, this is a very valid reason to be concerned. You can legally be abducted against your will, held by force, drugged and abused. It is a real thing, it does happen, and I hope to whatever God you believe in, it never happens to you.
Guy needs to loose his license.
She should sue him and the hospital
They make all the records magically disappear. This is an almost impossible battle to win. Never the less I concur. I'm fighting the FBI, the state police, and the hospital 2 decades and counting later. They ruined my life causing irreparable damage to me for false imprisonment and torture as a child.
Lose* your mama is loose.
This is exactly why I dumped my therapist. She suggested hospitalization when my psych (a real doctor) never has. This stuff follows you and ruins your life
Hey, I've seen your comments on exministries videos in times past, anyway, I hope you're doing well.
Yes, if you thought life was bad, wait until this happens to you. I don't think I will ever get over it. 3 years ago now.
My involuntarily stay still affects me 4 years on. This stuff follows you around for life. Once you’re numbered and profiled, they never let you go
@@spencerh2860 Every time I went to a new doctor, I would watch them read what the computer they were looking at said. Some who were half slouching would sit bolt upright.
One doctor almost fell off his chair, a guy I had known previously before my 'bout'. It follows you and colours everything in your life from then on. I stopped going to them, but things happen and I know one day I might need them, like in a car accident or so. I wonder what the cops have on their computer and what it says about me.
yes.. i can not join the army because i went to the doctor after being SA'd and they placed me into the mental health unit, doped me up until i couldn't even function anymore and let me go home. I was so out of it I was being a nuisance to everyone around me from the medication they gave me. I was 22 years old. That was the worst year of my life
This 'doctor' needs to be criminally prosecuted.
Please keep exposing these predators!!!!
Years ago - A friend living in Chicago went to a local "free" clinic to talk over her depression. The helpful counselor who was normally there was out for the week. She was not suicidal. She was not harming herself. Fill-in "counselor" involuntarily committed her to a different facility with which he was connected. Her boyfriend managed to get her out after 3 days. How? He pointed out she had NO health insurance. Neither did he. No one to bill. She was suddenly "free to leave."
So glad her boyfriend figured this out! This was definitely a smart move.
One of the First Things this Guys do IS to Check If you can pay.
@@0NeverEver Is there some way you can get phony papers saying you don't got no insurance? Like maybe a fake ID for a poor person with no insurance?
Kinda like a "Get-Out-of-Nuthouse-Free" card. You know, like in Monopoly.
@@0NeverEver not necessarily. They actually help a lot of people get on (temporary) health insurance. But the county can also fund the treatment, in MN it's called a Rule-25.
It happens everywhere, I'm in New Zealand & their Mental Health Services are Backwards af, if you tell someone you're not feeling mentally well the Police get to come to your home & "Arrest" you aka "Kidnap" you & you automatically have no rights in their eyes!
- I can't wait for Judgement Day when Doctor's like this POS 💩finally get their just deserts in HELL!
🤯 😵💫👿💀💩
It's amazing how quickly your problems resolve after your insurance runs out.
It’s so disgusting
Look up the miss use of ECT therapy with elderly patients until the funds run out ...Hell..!
😂
Not really. The problems are still there
@@ninachkah13 So, you think they still would've kept her that long if she didn't have medical insurance to cover her stay?
Evil, dude should be investigated, reviewed and have license taken away.
I was held against my will and involuntarily drugged inpatient for 89 consecutive days. This also triggered a 14 year saga of coercive outpatient drugging. In my estimation of evil Psychiatrists are equal to terrorists who have killed. I was eyewitness to a patient death due to overdrugging. I thought she was simply misbehaving when in fact she was drowning in her mashed potatoes. Staff watched and did nothing even after she stopped breathing. That happened the first week I was there when the psych drugs had me almost paralyzed with lethargy, somnolence, and confusion. The financial and opportunities costs have never been resolved.
Did you voice suicidal or homocidal threats?
Providence VA: I get the best care of my Life, and I WAS a healthcare provider. In the civilian community, It happens, but see my comment below. And my comment in the main comment section.
I used to work in high risk psych. Luckily, the company I worked for, we were Allowed to make the decisions abt our patients, & part of our decisions were based on Patient Need & Desires. That was great. That's not a common practice tho. I myself was involuntarily committed in an ER, while going in/out of consciousness from an undiagnosed Neuro condition. Scariest 3 days of my life, no Dr ever saw me, but some under-Dr. threatened to keep me there Indefinitely; he didn't Need A Reason!! I wanted to sue, but my family are also horrific ppl, said I deserved being 'locked up'. I got my Neuro diagnosis, but my family still thinks it's fake & I got put in a psych facility bc I'm crazy. Psych is The Most Dangerous place for Any patient....No patient rights
@@nacholibreri Nobody cares, the world isn't providence VA
@@nacholibreri stop
Im so sorry! You did not deserve that!!!
This is why people don’t speak of what is wrong or bothering them.
Providence VA: I get the best care of my Life, and I WAS a healthcare provider. In the civilian community, It happens, but see my comment below. And my comment in the main comment section.
I know I never will again.
I sure as hell am not going to say anything to anyone.
Dead right.
You Have The RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT For a Reason..
someone is finally speaking up about human trafficking in healthcare
That's exactly what it is! 100%
Exactly! She was kidnapped!!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 delusional
@@thebrunetteinroom7your momma delusional for having a bean like you.
This.
THIS _WAS_ A KIDNAPPING. Call it was it is.
This guy's medical license needs to be removed NOW.
ABSOLUTELY!!
There's thousands of doctors in the United States worse than him, is the depressing thing about all this. And they work alongside good and bad nurses. The system reinforces itself while the patients are more vulnerable than they have been in the past fifty years.
Try talking to a normal person about this and they'll look at you like you're saying there are evil firefighters out there who start fires. They just won't believe you. Until it happens to them or someone they love.
He was probably following hospital procedure. By only firing one person and closing the case there you are allowing the rest of the corrupt logistics the medical system has manifested to remain as another bypass of accessory to a crime. We already had qualified immunity to excuse police misconduct and now hospitals can literally just conspired to systemically blame their employees for doing their jobs. This is insane.
Another hyphenated American.
@@FungusMossGnosis the good firefighters and evil firefighters are both good firefighters. there are no bad firefighters 🔥⚰🪦
This lady needs lawyers. She needs to sue. I’d never pay that $16k. This is so wrong.
insurance was billed. not the woman. but its about principle
@@meirin5316that and there was still an amount due of 7k after that.
@@meirin5316 fuck that . She shouldn’t let them profit and sue for compensation for mental and physical violation of rights .
@@meirin5316 No, insurance only paid like $16K, there was several thousand she was responsible for. She gotta pay or else they'll sue her and wreck her credit rating.
@@Whatdidthefoxsay124 ofc she should
Being baker acted is so bad. They threatened to sue me if I didn't pay (I had no health insurance and was baker acted by my therapist), wouldn't give me a written doctor's note for work, and I ended up getting fired. One of the male nurses kept sneaking in my room to flirt with me and would warn me not to tell anyone. When they discovered I had no insurance, they kicked me out with a BUS PASS!! A BUSS PASS!! I had to walk from the mental hospital to the nearest bus stop. They said they were going to keep me for THREE. FULL. WEEKS! Guess when they found out I had no insurance, they didn't care anymore.
It was The Vines mental hospital in Ocala, FL.
God, it really makes you _want_ to go through with ‘it’, even if you voluntarily intake for the exact opposite purpose 😓 I hope you’re doing better in recent days, much love from New Zealand🤍(where our MH system is overwhelmingly better, yet still pretty atrocious. I consider myself incredibly fortunate to have been involuntarily held less than 24 hours & not having to pay a dime)
Baker acted???
@@xochil1621 similar to a 5150 when you say you have thoughts of harming yourself or others you are put in an involuntary hold in a mental health facility. I believe Florida is one of the few places in the USA that has something like this.
So sorry they did this to you... Are you ok now? Do you have a new job?
@@xochil1621involuntary psych hold.
I’ve suffered from major depressive disorder for most of my life. I will never ever go to a psychiatrist again. I was forced against my will into a psych ward by a psychiatrist that didn’t like me so he ended all of my medication at once. I had been taking the medication for over 35 years. When he ended my medication, I became distressed, but not suicidal and not histrionic. When I went to ask him to restore my meds. He committed me against my will. I was stuck in the psych ward for a year. While I was in the facility, I was physically attacked on a number of occasions by other patients who were also imprisoned against their will. There was nothing wrong with them. They were just pissed as hell, fighting everyone and I was the person in front of them at the time . I almost lost my life. The baker act is a holocaust of imprisonment For the innocent.
I am so sorry.
This will cause people to not ask for help when they need it.
Yes it probably will, but it will also stop people from being brutalized in those hellholes for minor problems that don’t require being locked up or heavily sedated.
@@TubinadoYou do realize the stories here are a small minority, don't you?
@@plicketyplunk No, it’s extremely common to be misdiagnosed and over-medicated. Medical error is the third largest cause of death, and that’s also probably under reported in the current for profit disease management industry. You do realize that, don’t you?
There's nothing new under the sun.
You are exactly right, I will never ever ever. I’ll deal or not but never ever ever. The dr see’s each patient for about 5 mins each day sometimes every other day. They do not have enough time to assess and diagnose, they barely even look at you. The. You end up with diagnosis that are ridiculous. It’s all about keeping you on that floor for as long as possible, it’s terrifying to have no say.
There is no greater crime, than a medical professional using a patient’s medical health against them, for personal gain, such as occurred in this story. Good for speaking out and investigating this issue. Thank you!
Their sick (as in batshit crazy and demented), which is why they're able to readily do it. The fact that she only met with that "Dr." for less than the time legally allotted to evaluate her........and he still evaluated her, as if he saw her 3 or 4 times. Confirms that he is part of the scam that most of them are involved in. The fact that he's saying thank you, after she answered *his question. Should tell you his train of thoughts intention.
lol. they do that every day at the hospital. so when are you going to protest that? didn't think so.
@@beethao9380 lol, who protesting, you? Didn’t think so. Might want to learn how to read first.
I have seen it in ER´s as well, a friend of mine had a undiagnosed food allergy. Turned out to be Hazelnuts, but we wouldn´t have found out if I hadn´t explicitly asked for a "Poke" test. The doctor in charge just chose to administer anti-histamines and adrenocortical hormone. Cause each treatment is money right in his pocket.
well, I can think of a few....but thats besides the point.
The ultimate form of gaslighting.
Couldn't say it better myself.
🤨Hmm this is "insurance" backed so it was voluntary.
The anger isn't enough to show a example of true injustice.
I think this is such nuanced gaslighting. 🔥✨
by a psychiatrist!!!! oh, the irony
It's pavlovian conditioning, for when you bump up against the edge of the matrix.
Doctors like this keep you until your insurance stops paying, then kicks you out. This is standard procedure.
Improving someone’s life by imprisoning them, dismissing them, risking their job and the well-being of their companion…isn’t Psychiatry wonderful?
It's a racket. I'd much sooner put my mental and spiritual health into the hands of a shaman than any psychiatrist.
Crappy psychiatrists (and their minions) are bereft of emotion generally - it's a f business in the end. Do they care? Nope.
You lose your civil and constitutional rights indefinitely afterwards to boot...
it is astounding to me any adult can have another adult committed to a psych hospital.
be careful what you say to psychiatrists and family. they are not there to help you.
i was incarcerated in a psych ward. my parents called and said i was suicidal. i was sad. but not suicidal. the police woke me up and threw me against the wall and handcuffed me. took me to the hospital. i was strip searched. given a gown that didn't close. my phone was taken. i saw no doctors. i was handcuffed to a bed most of the day. i insisted i was not suicidal. they said i had to spend the night. i was locked in a room with a plastic bench to sleep on and a thin blanket with holes in it. the tv could not be turned off or the channel changed. bc i said little except that i was not suicidal they let me go at 6am the next morning. said they had no reason to keep me. my psychiatrist was supposed to see me but couldn't make the time to come to the hospital.
my psychiatrist threatened to put me back in there if i didn't "straighten up" and was treating me like a bad child. she said "i can take your phone and have you locked up anytime" i stopped seeing her. the psychiatrists are not good
people. they push pills, they threaten to put you in the psych ward. they are not out to help you.
i now see a pro bono therapist. we have made more progress than i ever did with the shrink. i don't trust psychiatrists for anything anymore.
If you are suicidal or homocidal.
Providence VA: I get the best care of my Life, and I WAS a healthcare provider. In the civilian community, It happens, but see my comment below. And my comment in the main comment section.
The saddest part is often it is the adults who have caused the trauma to the individual in the first place that continue to abuse the individual.
Yah the motto of psych wards is: "If you weren't suicidal before you got here, we'll damn well make sure you leave feeling like you want to kill yourself"
The cops triggerred mental health problems and then perpetuated through their false criminalization reports: I will never get better until they destroy they reports: they are the crazy ones writing bS and lies about strangers they don’t know anything about: Truth
Mine is great talks to me, asks about my life, is willing to try meds I suggest and if I don''t want any she is ok with that too. Sad part is it took 25 years to find this ONE good one.
That’s why they warn against calling those suicide hotlines. People have had their addresses traced and were suddenly dragged to a mental facility, which worsened their anxiety & depression rather than help alleviate it.
Facts!
certified crisis counselor here.
that is exactly why I took myself off the schedule permanently at the crisis hotline.
Ive found that most callers want talk therapy. the few who mention active plans to 'leave here' such as a means etc- yes they will likely get an unwanted visit from the local authorities.
I just could not be a part of traumatizing ppl who are in emotional pain and often seek to heal not be drugged with pills
People these days are saying "Bring back the institutions! ✊️" but little do they know what those institutions are like as a patient
I was in one in the 70s as a kid. NO thanks,
@DanaTheInsane thank you. I'm glad you said something. I'm so sorry to hear that. I'm 33 and I was in one for teens and it was absolutely miserable and the people were mean.
They never left
@@jamessmith4287 of course they didn't! Dude I knew that lol
This has always happened. Her story is one of thousands at least. Damn shame
Providence VA: I get the best care of my Life, and I WAS a healthcare provider. In the civilian community, It happens, but see my comment below. And my comment in the main comment section.
@@nacholibreriyou probably slept with the doctor🙄
And this is why I never ask for help for my ptsd or suicidal thoughts.
You need to know not all are like this.
@@Jannett-ik5lh but the majority are 😂 and it sucks!
@@Jannett-ik5lh And so explain how anyone can determine the difference ?? Quite a risk to take . Is there a warning system ?..
So sorry , sweet person , that you are goimg through this. I also have PTSD and I know it is so hard to go through . Sending love and hope for you. Never give up.
I don’t blame you. It’s what you need to do to protect yourself from these abuses of power.
I was a victim of the system. After my wife passed away in 2021 I needed to talk to someone so I went to the mental health department in Charlotte NC. I knew something was up when the door locked behind me when they took me back to see a social worker. I just wanted to talk to someone but next thing I know s sheriff's deputy shows up and handcuffs and shackles me. I'm driven 2 hours too Raleigh, a hell hole called Holly Hill Hospital. The commitment paperwork said I was phycotic and suicidal. This was blatantly false. They wanted to keep me for 21 days. Like this poor lady I had a cat 😺 at home that needed tending. I got a hold of a lawyer at disability rights NC. The next day I was all better and discharged. It than cost me a 200 dollars Uber ride home.
They’re know around here for it. I was held there for nine days for nothing at all. That’s all my insurance would cover and they let me go. I know a bunch of people with the same story
Jeez, that place is notorious. They have a 1.8 star rating on Google but the top reviews are from patient 'families' praising staff for being discreet and protecting patient confidentiality. Yeah, cuz HIPAA you nitwits. Patient reviews state the place is a scammy lil hell hole that holds ppl hostage until insurance coverage runs out. It should be illegal. The fact the sheriff came and took you there is nuts. They likely got paid to take ppl even if they weren't a danger to themselves or others.
That's insane. It could have turned out so much worse. Thank God it didn't 🙏
The place is owned by a corporation called universal health services. Evil corporation they own 3 private phych hospitals in NC alone. There are lawsuits pending on them for a teenager dying in there "care". They have billboards on i77 saying come in for a free counseling assessment, I did and ended up handcuffed and shackled and put in the back of a prisoner transport van. I was treated better when I was picked up on an arrest warrant. Sad
He's been scamming since 2017 why is this man still practicing?! He should have lost his license then - now he needs to be in jail too!
Seeking help for your mental issues often leaves you more traumatized than ever. Psychiatrists are sicker than their patients, and I've never known a therapist that didn't have a ton of problems.
Comparing psychiatric Wards to kidnapping is an understatement it is more like human trafficking because they are making money off of your occupation of their facility
I've been way more of a victim of the system than anything else in my life
its almost as bad as calling the cops, these days.
How long have you been a Scientologist?
@@uwcb1 Who?
Criminal. This needs immediate attention from the state and lawmakers. I hope the girl gets a lawyer and sues.
Notice how it is only women? Yeah... nothing with come of it. The government doesn't care about women. Neither side of our politicians or government care about women. Now if they had aired this story with a man as the victim. Well, then something would have been done the first time they interviewed that messed up doctor!
dont you understand the state is the problem
I went to the same exact hospital and had the same exact doctor. He was the sole reason why I became a drug addict. He got me hooked on Opioids and Benzos
@@trowwzers5057 Mental hospitals get paid by pharmaceutical companies to get patients hooked on those drugs. Its criminal.
Providence VA: I get the best care of my Life, and I WAS a healthcare provider. In the civilian community, It happens, but see my comment below. And my comment in the main comment section.
The doctor and all involved should be charged with kidnapping. You are legally considered sane until proven otherwise. Only a court can take away your rights to make your own decisions. A lawyer should have been assigned to her from the very start.
There are ways around it. Especially if you are married to someone who wants to control you.
I asked for a lawyer as I sat in front of a judge and she refused me that right.
They don’t let you have a lawyer for these kinds of cases
@@williambobson3369 Look up the guardianship statutes in your state. you have to be assigned a lawyer before someone can take away your rights and there has to be a court hearing. I know that they can Baker Act you but there has to be probable cause or it's kidnapping. Be careful what you sign going into a mental health treatment facility because you don't want to be tricked into signing a durable power of attorney making them your guardian if a doctor (their doctor) certifies you incapacitated. If I considered going into a mental health treatment facility I would talk to a lawyer first to make sure I understood my rights.
@@xx_Joker_xx Or have toxic abusive parents, you get screwed.
The psych ward told me NOT to return to grad school and NOT to go back to work. Can you imagine? They are the most unethical places I’ve ever been, and I worked for an attorney that kicked a whole in our workspace. I’m very far from Detroit where this movement is happening. I want to move from Maryland as soon as possible
They are doing this all over the USA
I worked hard for my money when i was 17 and because of a court order and a ‘noncompliance’ filed after i nearly died from suicide i was forced to go on Social Security. Now i can’t make more than 2,000 a month in all my accounts. I tried to tell them I don’t really think i’m disabled but they didn’t care. They needed me to go on Disability to pay for an AFC home. And I hadn’t earned enough money in my life for 1,050 a month rent, so because it took from October-January I’m in debt to a residential treatment center adult foster care facility
This is journalism with the public interests in mind. Thank you.
Amen
True. I've been in those places, and the staff barely listen to the patients at all.
I was held against my will in a psyche ward in Georgia for a whole month where I was abused. The hospital made $60,000 dollars while I was being verbally, physically and medically abused.
Providence VA: I get the best care of my Life, and I WAS a healthcare provider. In the civilian community, It happens, but see my comment below. And my comment in the main comment section.
$60,000.
There’s this thing that if you cannot pay it, the hospital could pay the bill for you. Hospitals are pretty much tax exempt/ are a charity.
However (hopefully I’m not instilling false hope), I’d say to do more research.
Lock the Doc up! And sue all parties involved.
The evidence can be blatantly obvious.....and trust that there are those (even outside of that agency) that will go out their way to leaving you holding whatever they initiated and instigated in your life (as lies don't just up and magically state whatever claim). It takes a person choosing to open their trap, to lie and tell tales. When itnl comes to behaviors as such, it was practiced and purposely perfected before everyone here existed (well a high percentage of us)......and that behavior was not coincidental. For some, it doesn't matter who they throw under the bus. All it requires is someone needing them/coming to them.....and they will run a marathon with their stupidity. A woman once told me as we sat in Starbucks, that a lawyer friend of hers ended up committing suicide, soley based on what their psychiatrist told them. Maybe she was the psychiatrist that she spoke of.......I don't know. As her random need to tell me something as such, came across as odd. Folk be doing all type of shit, that once they've done it, it's obvious that they were clueless that whatever repercussions they encountered, would knock at ***their front door.
Deport him
I know his address and phone number
“Lock the doc” 😂😂
I gave up on medical care 10 yrs ago. Our system is there for the shareholders not the patient
I went to an ER once for a case of diverticulitis (which I've been though several times before) which is handled with a large dose of antibiotics. The ER DR. said I could leave after taking 2 IVs of the antibiotics but when the second IV was almost done I called family to pick me up. I asked a (male) nurse if they could remove the IV so I could be released they told me that they were getting a room ready for me I needed to just be patient until it was ready. I told him I wanted to leave because someone was in transit to come get me. He said he didn't care and that I HAD to do what the doctor ordered. I told him that I don't work for the DR. and I want to leave. He then got angry, putting his finger to my chest telling me this WILL HAPPEN, like it or not. This of course was the WAY WRONG ANSWER and after I got loud enough to bring about 5 other nurses into the room they decided to have me sign a release form and discharge me. To leave they insisted I had to be pushed out in a wheelchair which that same nurse tried to THROW me out of it twice buy snatching it violently backwards but when he realized another patient was watching him do this he disappeared when they stood up. I tell this because hospitals don't care about people anymore, they just care about your insurance and their bottom line. Tell me if I'm the only one who feels that a trip to the doctor seems more like a run through the window at Mcdonald's than a trip to a paid professional who is SUPPOSED to treat me like a person?
The danger of people being able to " speak " for you.
This happened to me in Boston. It wasn’t until I contacted the number a nurse slide under my pillow for the HR complaint line. Same with me, within 3hours I was well enough to leave. I had also signed myself in after my marriage broke up and insomnia. This makes me sick to my stomach. Thank you for bringing this to life!
God bless that nurse, and I’m so glad you got out of there
Thank God for that nurse. I live in the Boston area. Where did they put you
Don’t answer that question, false sympathizers try to get private information online all the time. You do not need to reveal your location to anyone online.
Don’t answer that question. You are not obligated to give private information to a stranger. Be sharp, false sympathizers often try to collect information
Good eye 🧐🤐🫡🤫@@kathleencove
"I no longer trust medical professionals" - means she's likely to live a long and healthy life.
No, health care is why we get to live to be 80 instead of dying in our late 40s like you did 150 years ago. But YOU have to be in charge of your care,
@@DanaTheInsane We live longer primarily because of better hygiene, water treatment, sterilization, and superior nutrition. Of course, people aren't being stomped to death by horses anymore either. If you study the statistics thoroughly enough, you'll find that what they call 'medicine' (e.g. chemical poisons, atrocious butchery, and radiation) actually kills more people than natural causes, whenever you compare them against untreated people. Worse, their terrible advice is why heart disease and cancer are so prevalent. Still believe that natural fat is bad for you, and that it doesn't protect the heart? The 'medicine' is furthermore the number one cause of bankruptcy, and that is by design. Ever wonder why they don't have a cure for anything (not even a single disease) after all of this time, when there is so much invested in research? Cures are never "approved". That makes curing anything illegal. Cures are terrible for business, after all. The industry is designed to keep people sick. Your doctor isn't your healer. He's your dealer. You might want to reflect a little more on the people that you are worshiping, as most people should. They're not heroes. Not even close.
If you want your eyes opened, check out my book, "Defy Your Doctor and Be Healed". I've done the research, and it wasn't pretty.
I am a nurse and this is absolutely terrifying. Until someone inside (staff) blow the whistle and speak up, these vulnerable people will remain at risk with the next provider.
But they know they'll never work in nursing again, lose their job, credential, home, kids, it's all right there in the court records.
This is disturbing to me as someone who worked for a few years doing EMS ambulance transports in the area. I have personally taken hundreds of people from hospital crisis centers and emergency rooms around metro Detroit to Stonecrest, Harbor Oaks, and many other psych hospitals. The idea that I may have been part of this criminal doctor's kidnapping racket is deeply unsettling.
Of course, I know the majority of people I transported truly needed help and I was part of that help - but people being held without medical reason for profit is obscenely unethical. This needs to be investigated across the board as it's almost certain that if one doctor found a way to turn this into something profitable, that others may have too. Add this to the never-ending list of why healthcare shouldn't be a for profit business in the first place.
But did you ever tell a patient, "You can stop talking and get on the stretcher, or we'll drug you into a stupor and make you do whatever we want"
If they run, do not chase them. They got away.
If it helps you feel better, this situation is outrageously common. It is MOST psych hospitals. Plenty of people truly need help, but unfortunately there is no discerning the source of distress and what kind of help a person needs. Most psych hospitals are not about helping people. Period.
@@malapropiathey need spiritual help. Demons are real. Meds make it worse.
This happenned to my 88 mother with cancer, when she complained about the pain from her pre diagnosed cancer to doctors in her hospital. They thought she was crazy and just making it up. So they threw her in a mental hospital and I had to work very hard to get her out. Then it turned out, they mixed up the MRI scans and found the stage 4 cancer the next week.
Oh God, I’m so sorry.
that's horrible..good you were there
Never get near a mental hospital if you have good insurance- you won't ever leave.
got in two weeks after they determined i wasnt a threat. i saw the b ill. 1300 a day from my insurance....seems like enough to keep my an unwarntedly long time.
but, guess what, while i was in there, 3 people who said t hey werent a threat, tried to hurt them selves and others....crazy how that works.
imagine if they let her out day one, and she walked infront of a bus. that woulda been A REAL LAWsuit, not one of these day time TV ones poepl are talking about
Yes, that seems to be the case in the US!
What good is knowing your rights if you're stuck in a facility that isn't listening to you?
@MikodoHizo What if you don't have access to a method of contacting such lawyers or have the compensation necessary to persuade lawyers to take on your "case". In the end, it's the same thing that motivates lawyers, that motivates doctors. That's what a "consultation" is, how much is their "case" worth based on my evaluation and experience?
I love the "we can't discuss an individual patient's case due to privacy" when it's the patient herself wanting to discuss it. Scummy.
If you can't talk about it to the news, maybe you shouldn't be doing it in the first place!!!
Maybe if you had a better medical system, this wouldn't happen. My grandson developed schizophrenia as a teen, and I am grateful for the medical staff, who helped stabilize his symptoms. It cost nothing.
I mean technically they cant, its a HIPPA violation. However in this case they are using it as a shield to avoid self incrimination.
@@nikushim6665Exactly. You worded it better than I would have. They don't want to, and even if they did, it's illegal.
They can't. If the patient agrees then it's different.
My worst nightmare. That's exactly why I've never asked for help in any way.
good on you. make sure to never ask for any help in any way, that's exactly the right move
Providence VA: I get the best care of my Life, and I WAS a healthcare provider. In the civilian community, It happens, but see my comment below. And my comment in the main comment section.
Are you kidding me? This is something that has been going on for YEARS that I and thousands of other kids have already long since been a victim of. And only *now* it’s getting talked about when it’s already too late for me.
This appears to be an insurance scam. The feds should be involved.
Oh they're involved alright, the feds work with these psych wards and help deliver them "patients". The feds aren't going to shut this down lol THEY KNOW. I was taken to one against my will, and they gave patients a wireless phone to call a family member to talk to them for a certain amount of time. I used it to call the police to try to get the heck out of there. They forced me to go back to my cell and wouldn't allow me to talk to the police officer I called, but instead a bunch of people came and injected me with something to make me pass out and go to sleep. The cops never spoke to me and I had to just keep a level head and wait for them to let me leave 2 weeks later.
That's "cute" to SAY, but in reality, the bottom line is that those "health professionals" opinions are "subjective".....just like one dentist saying "that tooth needed to come out"
They'd NEVER be able to "prove" said person didn't "need" to be treated 2 days vs. 5 days.....cause it's subjective.
It's scary AF, but that's just the truth ....one doctor says a pregnant 🤰 woman "must" be induced or c-section performed within 2-3days of the original due date.....another doc says "let's wait and see"
Who's "right" and who committed a "crime"? There are no absolutes....you couldn't get a charge to stick w/o something extraordinarily obvious and a difference in opinions isn't enough, unfortunately
@@ericstewart517 the pre signed papers is proof, this is malpractice, and his license needs to be taken away
Rich people never get charged and indicted. Only the poor. Get use to it.
@@ericstewart517
Like someone else said.
He admitted to perjury. He signed sworn statements he admitted weren't even filled out yet. You can't swear to something you are admitting doesn't even exist at that point in time.
“I felt kidnapped” is exactly how I describe my being held unnecessarily and against my will in a nursing home after surgery. I expected to go home from the hospital after 3 or 4 days, and the surgery went very well. Instead I was sent to what ended up being the nursing home from hell and was told their doctor (who I never once saw) could keep me there for even as much as nine months. 🥺 They also said that if I left, my insurance would not cover anything. I received no care and my recovery was sabotaged. The trauma I experienced while captive there was a nightmare. My expected 3 or 4 days away from home (where everything I needed for my recovery was) turned into 17 days being trapped, alone, without the medication post-surgery that was prescribed (had to fight for that too while in pain), and intimidated. Thank God I insisted on keeping my phone and was finally able to get my doctor and one of my former students to advocate for my release. 🤦🏽♀️
I hope she sues and is able to have a good life for her and her dog, i can only imagine being held against your will would exacerbate PTSD, not help it.
I'm so glad the dog is okay.
1 human > 999,999,999,999,999 dogs
@@JohnDoe-bt9qpclearly you haven’t met any humans
@@shiningkimmy Man has a soul. Compared to humans, dogs are inanimate.
@@JohnDoe-bt9qp souls aren’t a thing. Spiritual woo woo does not an argument make.
@@shiningkimmy dnr
A VERY similar thing happened to ME at ASCENSION HEALTH in WICHITA, KANSAS. I was kept for 6 days after an obviously false allegation that I was suicidal. I was literally on the phone with a local news station when a staff member grabbed the phone out of my hand, physically assaulted me & threatened to transfer me to a state mental hospital if I did not "settle down and act better". All kinds of derogatory, false claims are now in my medical records, some of which have prevented me from obtaining medical care! I'M PUSHING 65yr OLD, I AM AN ORDAINED MINISTER WITH A DOCTORAL DEGREE, AND I NO LONGER TRUST THE MEDICAL PROFESSION. I will no longer open myself up to the false 'medical care' here in Kansas.
Dude it wasn't so bad you needed a vacation anyways plus the lord was hanging out with you. I wanted to stay another week but I don't have insurance. So what happened someone called because you were saying a man rose from the dead and lives in the sky and you wanna go be with him. Dude you probably might want to go back. Im in Wichita I'm just giving you crap. 😂
Amen
@@Dr..Spyderscrew off weirdo
It's not JUST Kansas. All the facilities are under the same umbrella of regulations and control. It's NEVER been about treatment since the Rockefeller takeover of ALL US med schools....just pharmaceuticals and a lifelong "sick" model of pricey drugs that create more problems and side fx requiring more profitable scrips!! $$$$$$$$$$$
Same in Meade county SD and similar in Jefferson county Co
I have PTSD from staying in a WV psych ward unit in 2018. 6 years later and still having nightmares.
There was a famous Stanford University experiment done in the 70s that highlighted this issue. 12 participants with fake names went to various hospitals, claimed to be hearing voices, then upon being admitted, immediately went back to behaving like their healthy, well adjusted selves. Almost every participant was diagnosed with schizophrenia, held for anywhere from a week to 2 months, and perscribed a total of 2,000 pills total between all 12 of them. Antidepressants, antipsychotics, etc. Again, some of these drugs wouldve been administered as late as 2 months after the individual stopped showing symptoms of mental health problems.
Many mentally disabled people avoid mental hospitals at all costs due to this. More patients equals more profit. They aren't trying to keep you healthy, they're trying to keep you on the premises. These places are known for making people LESS healthy because they are barred from taking actual necessary measures to stabilize their mental health. Their movements are restricted even within the building. These places are often more like prisons than medical facilities.
First mistake was trusting a psychiatrist to help you.
As a woman who struggles with her mental health, this is my worst nightmare!
just tell them you have chest pains
Someone needs to put that doctor out of business. Permanently.
It's the system that gives out incentives to do these atrocities. Pole-lease, insurance, hospital execs, doctors.
This is another reason why people do not speak to therapist because then they want to diagnose you with something that even remotely close. And it follows you forever
I know I will never get over it.
My French friend’s son would have been easily identified as ADHD and put on amphetamines if he was in America or UK. Luckily in the continental Europe, the teachers are not allowed to pressure parents in that way. It’s a normal growth. It’s actually abnormal to have an anal child with high “executive function” at age 10 or 13, or in terribly difficult and vulnerable teen years. That said, my friend’s son is hyperactivity didn’t cease, that’s how he is and he has been studying, skydiving, organizing student unions … no meds! He turned extremely successful, started his own business, got married to a great girl and planning kids. He is normal and very successful young man. Upbeat too.
God knows if he was tagged ADHD as in serious 🧐 disorder that “needs” to be corrected by meds, God only knows if he would be normal now?! I know plenty of kids who decided to get off that - pardon my French - crap meds because it made them depressed and they hated the fact that they lost their childhood’s beautiful creativity by feeling strung on drugs and thinking that something was wrong with them. Not to mention that having kids on “meds” was a step closer towards using other drugs. We are not all the same, our mental states shift depending on what’s happening with us and around us. It would be better to have reading circles with variety of literature without ideological thematics and open forum discussions on various topics. This would be a much better and healthier way to help anyone with mental turbulences (we all have them) than meds and faux diagnostic of one or the other “disorder.” Art circles work!
This is the scarier scenario ever… nothing you say can get you out of
This is what journalism is supposed to be ! Great coverage.
Horrible
Imagine being an elderly patient with your own home, retirement, social security and they put you in a nursing home and take everything you own and give you $70 a month
And you can take care of your self
Every single nursing home I work at as a nurse and justice system and Healthcare need to take it over and redone completely
This happens WAY more often than you think
Whatever
There should be a position to ban these places and rewrite the rules to protects patients rights and wellbeing