Awesome video mate. I got ptsd and anxiety so for me archery is meditation and relaxation. Ive in a bow club and loaning gear now. But am out of work so cant afford my own gear i dream of having a good recurve bow and target so i can shoot everyday would help me a lot both with the ptsd/anxiety and getting in better shape.
I have copped a lot of flack over the years for how I was taught to shoot by my grandfather over 50 years ago. I've only recently seen it described as fixed crawl, basically consisting of a fixed point on the string, about 30 yards in my case, shooting 3 under much like string walking but sort of gap shooting from that fixed point. I've found it to be as fast as instinctive and as accurate as string walking out to about 50 yards. There's a video by a young bloke named Matt Zirnsak I think, called The Push that explains it better than I've ever been able to. I've tried so many styles over the years, as you do when you're experimenting, but always come back to it as my preference.
Greg your previous video on how to find your gaps and this one explaining split vision should be a must study for any aspiring trad archer !!! Many years ago when I got started and was struggling an "Old Timer" that everyone else ignored befriended me and passed on literally the same info and advice that you have in your videos !! It was a total game changer in a matter of a few days for me and something I refer back to with any bow and arrow change I make to this day !!! Great work Greg !!!
Hello. Recently I switched from FITA- on traditional archery and was despair: I hit absolutely nothing, constantly flashed me with the tendon on the arm, the fun had lost at archery - which would not be good in my case, but to you'd have to know my story, but that is not now. We had now where I live one week of rain and i enough time to view your video series to GAP shoot accurately. My English is very bad and I let your videos to Part 5 times back and forth running, to understand everything. I was after the continuous rain finally back on the sports field and was the "learned" implement of you - and I'm just thrilled! No on the arm shoot more arrows go right into the goal! I could have screamed with joy! Many, many thanks that you shared this incredibly great video and I learned how to do it right !! Best wishes and 1 Million Thank Gustl.
It's good to see a left handed - experienced archer sharing background information on different shooting styles. Many lefties have gone through similar experiences as you did. Many will benefit from what you have to share here on RUclips and I'm looking forward to more of your videos.
From Canada Ontario, been shooting for 40 years. Owner of Kawartha Traditional Archery Center been going at it for 10 years and Walker's Traditional Archery much longer. Very nice informative videos thankyou. Trad needs so much support up here. My place at KTAC has lessons, rental 3D and field ranges and shop. Checking out all your videos thank you.
Hi Greg! Looking on your older videos time to time, they are really excellent learning. Im on my 10th year with Archery, so Im very hungry to learn, whatever that's comes up. Im a right hand shooter, but my left eye is my dominant eye, bought a left hand bow, but I realize that I will be back on zero to start shooting with that, and Im to old to switch over.(68 year old) So when I shoot like a Right hand shooter, I close my left eye, and let the right eye do the job, and that works well. Ive been an instinctive shooter for 9 years, the last year of my 9 years, I did the split vision, and the last 6 months, I practice the Gap shooting , and I must say I had been more safe in my shootings, the target panic is gone, I feel a lot more confident, while entering a new target, during a completion, So like you say all three metods works very good together, at times is melting in together more and more. Seen your newer videos as well, hope you continue that, I and many more needs to learn more. Im a Longbow shooter, and love it, Im learning more and more every day. I was no eleven in the last big competition, together with the Swedish Elite shooters,( in Longbows) that compete in the European competitions etc, and my last competition I was no 3, but I know I can do much better if I keep the focus, and do what I have learn to do, but a competition is always a competition, with pressure, nervs etc, even if you think you are relaxed, and calm, there is always a different feeling, than shooting alone in your backyard. My bow is a bit too strong 45lbs, can't hold the draw as long as I want to do, so now Im awaiting a new bow from the US, that's 40lbs, I guess that will improve my shooting a lot. Thanks again Greg for your videos.
Great description of those methods. Having an open mind to change is rare in some people. Expand on the experience, it's fun and educational. Great job again.
Triditional Archery : from scientific shooting to bow wielding wizard. Truth be told, that split vision and stringwalking are just mind blowing. Great content.
Great job on the video! I would dare to say that most "Instinctive" archers are split vision shooters. I myself feel I fall into that category. It's when I try to focus on just the target or try to aim with point/ gap is when my shooting sufferers. I shoot my best when I focus on the target, have the arrow blurred in my peripheral vision, come to anchor and release when "it feels right".
Another very helpful video. After going through your Shot Cycle series, these more focused videos on the topics are adding more specificity to my notes. I have a literal web chart of my shit cycle now, which I am slowly learning to unconsciously micro-manage. Takes a little effort but once a part is in the muscle memory, it makes it all worthwhile.
Good discussion. Nice enthusiasm. I suspect we all teach our nervous systems by using the gaps we see until we develop accuracy providing our form dose not deviate shot to shot. (Which is why we should develop consistent form before we can develop consistent accuracy). After we start hitting spot on at a given distance we probably fall by nature and self trust into what you called split vision and that perverts into what we like to call instinctive because we can't explain to anybody how it happens , our nervous systems are so well conditioned with repetition that it just knows. Indeed if we are in a live fire situation with a game animal and we lose confidence and try to think it out our brain will override our well trained nervous system and we'll surely goof it up. Thanks again for you input . Nice video.
what I found interesting and refreshing was, you don't make many cuts, you can really talk through 1 (sub-)subject altogether in one go, no in between cuts ;-). That's a good job, few people can do that. Apart from that, I came here with zero knwoledge of bows and still understood what you are saying, so, really well done ^^.
I loved what you said about the methods of aiming it when about to shoot at the target. I just received my new bow and have ordered some items I will need to use it. The next thing I have to do today is get some arrows locally along with the gloves I need to shoot it as soon as possible.
I completely agree with you on gapping and instinctive shooting being the same thing. It's just shooting an arrow! The way people explain their shooting has a certain emphasis on concentrating on either the Target or the arrow. However, both the Target and the arrow are in the visual plane on each shot and it's the archers mind interpreting what they want to focus on. I think it's important to experiment with focus and I've found out that in certain days I shoot better gapping than I would instinctive and vice versa. I typically Gap shoot but if I'm struggling with that an instinctive focus can pull me out of that funk. The shot cycle topically speeds up when I shoot instinctively and makes me feel like I get on Target quicker. When I Gap feels like I hover over the Target longer because it is a little harder to find looking at the arrow.
Good video, thanks. Shot a little when I was young and then again in the 40's. Now 60 and about to retire and getting to the local range when I can. I hope to have lost more time starting Jan 1, 2022 and would love to do a league next year. I started doing string walking a few months ago after a few tips from a nice gent shooting next to me but I am just not consistent enough at the moment. Will for sure give this video some thought my next time shooting.
Very informative video. I make my own arrows and shoot 3 under and split finger and instinctive shooting. But am definitely going to try string walking. Thanks again
Spot on Gary, Myself have added "Split Vision" to my shooting, and that works fine with Longbow, and split fingers.( I always been an instinktive archer. Gap is more about knowing the distance, and stringwalking is not allowed on Competition with Longbow.
I shoot split vision but when I struggle I have to go back to instinctive or gap to recalibrate. Some days are great while others I struggle. Uncle Ted's advice of becoming one with the arrow is a good thought.
Great segment. You really educated me on this, of the years playing with mostly only two types, gap and instinctive never thought about them being similar. Thanks
Good info as always. I finally got everything to start shooting thanks to your recommendation on arrow shafts for my Colt. Thanks to you for all your great videos. Honestly your the only person I commented on there video that responded, thanks. Looking forward to shooting soon my new hobbies.
another great video man. I learned a few new things. one thing I love about archery is its whatever feels good for you no matter what anybody says. I think its funny when people get mad at you for what you want to share. archery is an individual thing but it's something that we can all learn from everybody if that makes sense does to me. great video keep them coming
I’ve been watching for awhile and you are very easy to listen too also your a great teacher of mind vision!!! People like me learn faster and understand better that way. Thank you Dan Oh I’m a vision shooter too. I didn’t know I was until today!! Lol
Great video! Awesome and to the point. I've built my take down bow & arrows by viewing RUclips and everything I know about archery I learned on RUclips. I Struggle trying to be consistant with my shot placement and found making marks as reference points on my bow helps to line up the shot when determining appropriate elevation for my arrow to reach it's mark. I am still trying to decide which aiming method works best for me. Thanks for the info.
Loving your channel (and presentation style)! So I am a Field archer(in the UK) and have always shot split finger gap; I'm no spring chicken, so to ease my ageing bones I use a fairly light bow ( around 35#). With split finger, my point-on distance is around 35 yards. The problem is that at closer targets (up to around 20yards or so) I have to use a big gap, around 24 inches. I can reduce this drastically by shooting 3 under, but then I can't reach the 40 + yard targets without aiming at the birds in flight! Also, a bit weirdly, my point on with 3 under and index finger touching the arrow seems to be about 15 yards, so string walking would only be useful if I was trying to shoot at something at 10 yards or less. What I can't figure out is why moving from split finger to three under makes such a huge difference to my point-on: after all, the difference in terms of string position is only the width of the forefinger plus the arrow and nocking point. Who would have thought that a bendy stick and string could initiate such mysteries! Can you offer any elucidation ?
It is not the distance change that is important it is the change in angle that you see that is. That little bit closer to the eye makes a huge difference.
Good video, Greg. I like your style! I am a "pure" lefty, left eye dominant and all, and I am always fascinated by the different combinations of "handedness" that are possible in people and our learning potential. So often influenced by picking up a big brother's bow or guitar or golf clubs, right? Very impressed by the ability to switch due to injury!
I'm a string walker. I crawl up and down the string from the nock/arrow. I place the point of my arrow smack dab on top of the bullseye. The closer to the target I am, the farther down from the nock I am. I ancher on my cheek bone and use a Yost tab.
Not how I shoot, but a lot of guys have a lot of success shooting that way. IMHO, If your putting arrows on target consistently, its hard for me to say that your method is wrong.
hello. the hater are the jealous Archers who think they know it all. no one knows it all. were all learning as we go. we never stop learning that's what makes us humans..i love your channel
Great job on the explanation of how to aim in traditional archery ive never herd of these methods till i watched your video ..ive never realy tryed shootin with both my eyes open and also i guess you could say ive been aimin more towards spot on style shootin so next time i go out iam deffanatly gunna give these aiming styles a try..right now iam shootin and aquired an ol Ben pearson colt 7070.recurve bow with about a 37lb pull at a 28inch draw so this aught to be fun..thanks for the tips ..Mark B from IL .
Thank you for your clear explanation and taking the time to make all these video's ! I just started archery and I really appreciate your explanations about all issues involved. They are a big help and I enjoy watching them. Subscribed ! :)
This might be helpful for some folks. I'm right handed but shoot left handed because my vision is not great in my right eye. I don't use any of these methods because my depth perception isn't perfect.. I started gauging distance by a mark on my riser that is set at 30 yards. It allows me to be very accurate at all times. By raising the mark a little above or below the target I'm spot on. Can't tell you the number of knocks I've sheared off.
Ive never learned how to use sights on a bow and honestly I'm kind of proud of it because no one else I personally know can hit the broadside of a barn let a lone a target without their trusty sights. I use split vision and just kind of developed the ability to do so over time completely by accident because when I started I would keep going back and forth between gap and instinctive between shots then I just pretty much gave up on actually trying to hit the target and eventually I just got proficient at hitting the target. I don't really focus on any one thing and is almost like a 6th sense knowing when to release your arrow but not quite another 6th Sense kind of thing. Something you have to figure out on your own really
I really enjoy your content I'm struggling being right handed but blind in my right eye so I'm shooting lefty ok but I'm struggling finding a set method of shooting style but anyway I like your videos thanks
SeedfulMusic because their reputation isn’t on the line on the internet. Nobody knows who’s commenting the first and last name of the person. So their true self can come out on the internet. Especially Americans I would say the majority of Americans are secretly crazy from the stuff I see go on.
SeedfulMusic You comment sucks, I've been using archery equipment starting in 1960. That comment about shooting cats will get you an arrow in your ass on my property.🎯
Other than instinctive aiming the most important skill by far is range determination/estimation because with Gap and String Waling it's based on knowing how far the target is. Because in order to determine how far up and down the string you need to draw at you need to know the distance. Unless your at a competition where the distances are know to you.
Hello! I found this very interesting. I literally know zero about archery, but find the sport fascinating. I live in rural West Cork, Ireland and have no idea of the legality of owning archery equipment (there are certainly no clubs within at least 3 hours drive from me), but with all the vast space and forestry around me, need to investigate if I would be breaking any laws if I bought equipment.
There is a way to practice split vision touch your nose with two fingers one left one right hand focus on any object above or below your fingers then move your fingers away from your nose about 3 in. see the hot dog? Separate your fingers slightly shut one eye then open and try the other that's split vision
There are 3 basic methods of archery aiming - instinctive, soft sights, and hard sights. Instinctive - only looking at and concentrating on the target, that's it, nothing else is focused on or utilized, distances and arrow trajectory are learned via repetition and related to setting the bow arm angle. Soft sights - using any manner of point of reference between the arrow and the target, typically using some part of the arrow or bow or bowstring for gap or point of aim, and typically where target distances are known, but if distances are unknown then that will add in a guesstimate measure of instinctive aiming; most archers who claim to be instinctive shooters are actually soft sight shooters; string walkers are absolutely soft sight shooters. Hard sights - literally an actual bow sight that's calibrated for known distances, this is very exacting aiming; if the distances are unknown then that will add in a guesstimate measure of instinctive aiming. That's it, take yer pick.
Philosophically aiming is ether conscious or subconscious so the best choice should be the one that is the most accurate. If you shoot better using conscious aiming but want to be the one who shoots subconsciously you had to make a conscious decision to shoot that way.
Just a quick thought. I see the difference between gap/ string walking and instinctive, but you must realize that to use instinctive (which I do) you still must focus on the target before you go through your shot cycle.
@@TradArchery101 I must admit that I jumped the gun a bit and didn't fully watch the video. I did continue to watch and realized that your continued statements did fall into line and make sense so I do apologize. I am an avid fan of yours. I have been shooting a Jerry Hill wildcat 60lb longbow for quite some time now. My father in law got me into shooting and showed me how, but your series on the shot cycle was not only correct but the finer points of each has taught me a lot. The most important point I have learned is how to keep the shoulder not only down but in. I have had many discussions with my father in law about what you teach and have even watched your videos with him. I appreciate all that you do for every level of archer out there. Keep up the great work. Thank you
just found your site. Its great. I learned by myself and use siting down the arrow to check left/right . Then i have a mark on my riser for distance that i guess works sort of like gap shooting, but it works well for me. However to be precise after 20 yards out i need to know the distance. Hunting this way i would never shopt at anything over 20 yards away. No idea what kind of aiming this would be called. It is fast though.
Another less common method I've heard of is "face-walking" that has a few different anchor points depending on 10, 20, 30, 40 yards for example, and the arrow point is positioned on the intended target spot in each case. I can be combined with the gap method for in-between distances for a fine adjustment.
I am currently experimenting with the "eastern way": I load the arrow to the side where my drawing hand is, and a little after release, I flick my bow stave holding hand's wrist to remove the bow stave from the way of the arrow, thus reducing archer's paradox. This is how Japanese and Mongolian traditional archers shoot.
Sorry, but you cannot reduce the Archer's Paradox. It is either there or it is not. The flexing of the arrow is not the paradox. The paradox is that it seems that when at brace height, that in order to hit the target it "Appears" to the archer , that the arrow much pass through the riser.
Hey Greg! Good video, you covered it well I think. On 'Point of Aim': I used this with my kids when they were first learning. I did it with a label attached onto the belly of the bow above the arrow rest. It was a series of horizontal colored stripes to aid then in learning how high to hold the bow arm for the distance they were shooting. It worked very well in teaching them. They could reference the stripes while concentrating on the target. I did not use it for gap training as I had never heard of gapping at that time. On split vision, what about painting the tip or point in an optic color to make it easier to see?
thanks buddy , im starting archery this saturday .. no idea what method they are going to be teaching me i have one bad eye thats slightly blurred vision but can still see very very well split vision would help me out thank you for the tips you have earned a subscriber! , could i ask a favour ? could you make a video on how to put a recurve bow together for when i first buy one , it would make a lot of difference instead of looking at it like a puzzle!! lol thanks again buddy !
Hate mail? Over WHAT?!? This is insane. However, I still think spot on is not a bad way to aim when it comes to barebow archery. It's just mathematics and geometry, so it depends on distance, weight of the arrow, grains of the tip and poundage of the bow. Here's an example grain of tip staying the same at 100. : When I shoot my 48 pound bow at 20 yards, my aim is 90 degrees and tip of the arrow is spot on the center of the target . It works great with 500 spine arrows which weigh between 24 and 28 grams. Arrows between 20 and 24 grams, I find need to be aimed slightly lower than centre of the target as they do tend to have a bit of lift. Of course, same set up with 30 yards, - suddenly I need to aim 95-100 degrees, or slightly above the centre. But again, - use a lighter arrow of about 18 grams, - and you're aiming spot on again. There is a tiny bit of a difference whether you're using a fall away arrow rest, or just a standard pin type, but they're not that significant as the rest of variables. Still the point it, as long as my aim is steady - it works perfectly
What you should do is what i did. I have I.F.A.A target for 20-35 feet that have 4 targets. I copy one of them at 50% and now i can shoot in realy close and the target is not too big. It is just right amount dificulty.
I too, am a lefty that shoots right handed. I got a bow for Christmas, in 1976, and learned how to shoot it, but it was right handed. I bought a left handed bow decades later, and the concept of shooting an arrow with my left hand seemed no do-able for me. I gave it to someone.
Thank you for your reply, I'm still trying to figure this out, not sure if I should try this CRAWL or just GAP.. I've been just looking and trying to shoot instinctive, but my consistency is really lacking beyond 15 yards.. really bad... Thanks again for your advice.. I'll keep you posted on my progress, it will be slow do to work n other responsibilities, but I'll get it done!! Thank you!!!
Rodney, When deciding on which method to use, you need to know a few things. 1) What is it that you want to do? (Hunt, competition, etc) 2) one you got that, then you have to ask, which method will best fit that 3) The final question would be "How accurate do I want to be" Another option is Split Vision, it is a combination of GAP and instinctive. I use that the majority of the time, but when I need to make a good shot, I use GAP.
Im primarily interested in hunting, but I do enjoy target. I shoot target 300 and 3D for practice..there are no ranges in my area..I just finished shooting in between doctor appointments, arrows definitely need tuned, and learning the sight Picture is a new experience.. plus would help when I can actually CONCENTRATE and not be rushed between appointments..I really appreciate your time and advise!!!
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Just taken up Archery in my 60s, hitting the target would be good! but loving the journey.
Me too age 62
62 and shooting a traditional recurve after not shooting at all for at least 5years
I'm 41 I've just started too
Ditto. Age 67.
Starting now at 27, hope you guys still keep shooting!
Awesome video mate.
I got ptsd and anxiety so for me archery is meditation and relaxation. Ive in a bow club and loaning gear now. But am out of work so cant afford my own gear i dream of having a good recurve bow and target so i can shoot everyday would help me a lot both with the ptsd/anxiety and getting in better shape.
I really enjoyed your video. I've watched MANY videos and yours was really easy to understand. Thank you!
First of a dozen videos that actually shows the archers point of view. Thank you.
I have copped a lot of flack over the years for how I was taught to shoot by my grandfather over 50 years ago. I've only recently seen it described as fixed crawl, basically consisting of a fixed point on the string, about 30 yards in my case, shooting 3 under much like string walking but sort of gap shooting from that fixed point. I've found it to be as fast as instinctive and as accurate as string walking out to about 50 yards. There's a video by a young bloke named Matt Zirnsak I think, called The Push that explains it better than I've ever been able to.
I've tried so many styles over the years, as you do when you're experimenting, but always come back to it as my preference.
I’m thinking of getting into archery, so your videos are helping in making my decision. 👍
Greg your previous video on how to find your gaps and this one explaining split vision should be a must study for any aspiring trad archer !!! Many years ago when I got started and was struggling an "Old Timer" that everyone else ignored befriended me and passed on literally the same info and advice that you have in your videos !! It was a total game changer in a matter of a few days for me and something I refer back to with any bow and arrow change I make to this day !!! Great work Greg !!!
Hello.
Recently I switched from FITA- on traditional archery and was despair: I hit absolutely nothing, constantly flashed me with the tendon on the arm, the fun had lost at archery - which would not be good in my case, but to you'd have to know my story, but that is not now.
We had now where I live one week of rain and i enough time to view your video series to GAP shoot accurately. My English is very bad and I let your videos to Part 5 times back and forth running, to understand everything. I was after the continuous rain finally back on the sports field and was the "learned" implement of you - and I'm just thrilled! No on the arm shoot more arrows go right into the goal! I could have screamed with joy!
Many, many thanks that you shared this incredibly great video and I learned how to do it right !!
Best wishes and 1 Million Thank Gustl.
You are SUCH a delight to watch! Thanks so much for all your useful knowledge!!!
Thank you for this. I've just started out in archery and this was brilliant, really broke it down to the A B Cs. Actually makes sense now.
For a guy that's new this is fantastic information , thanks from another Lefty .
It's good to see a left handed - experienced archer sharing background information on different shooting styles. Many lefties have gone through similar experiences as you did. Many will benefit from what you have to share here on RUclips and I'm looking forward to more of your videos.
From Canada Ontario, been shooting for 40 years. Owner of Kawartha Traditional Archery Center been going at it for 10 years and Walker's Traditional Archery much longer. Very nice informative videos thankyou. Trad needs so much support up here. My place at KTAC has lessons, rental 3D and field ranges and shop. Checking out all your videos thank you.
Hi Greg!
Looking on your older videos time to time, they are really excellent learning.
Im on my 10th year with Archery, so Im very hungry to learn, whatever that's comes up.
Im a right hand shooter, but my left eye is my dominant eye, bought a left hand bow, but I realize that I will be back on zero to start shooting with that, and Im to old to switch over.(68 year old)
So when I shoot like a Right hand shooter, I close my left eye, and let the right eye do the job, and that works well.
Ive been an instinctive shooter for 9 years, the last year of my 9 years, I did the split vision, and the last 6 months, I practice the Gap shooting , and I must say I had been more safe in my shootings, the target panic is gone, I feel a lot more confident, while entering a new target, during a completion,
So like you say all three metods works very good together, at times is melting in together more and more.
Seen your newer videos as well, hope you continue that, I and many more needs to learn more.
Im a Longbow shooter, and love it, Im learning more and more every day.
I was no eleven in the last big competition, together with the Swedish Elite shooters,( in Longbows) that compete in the European competitions etc, and my last competition I was no 3, but I know I can do much better if I keep the focus, and do what I have learn to do, but a competition is always a competition, with pressure, nervs etc, even if you think you are relaxed, and calm, there is always a different feeling, than shooting alone in your backyard.
My bow is a bit too strong 45lbs, can't hold the draw as long as I want to do, so now Im awaiting a new bow from the US, that's 40lbs, I guess that will improve my shooting a lot.
Thanks again Greg for your videos.
Great description of those methods. Having an open mind to change is rare in some people. Expand on the experience, it's fun and educational. Great job again.
I love your way of explaining using visuals and describing the differences 💙🤟🏻 thank you
Triditional Archery : from scientific shooting to bow wielding wizard.
Truth be told, that split vision and stringwalking are just mind blowing. Great content.
Great job on the video! I would dare to say that most "Instinctive" archers are split vision shooters. I myself feel I fall into that category. It's when I try to focus on just the target or try to aim with point/ gap is when my shooting sufferers. I shoot my best when I focus on the target, have the arrow blurred in my peripheral vision, come to anchor and release when "it feels right".
Best explanation on RUclips thank you
i've been into archery for 45 years and i still love to rewatch videos on this channel
Another very helpful video. After going through your Shot Cycle series, these more focused videos on the topics are adding more specificity to my notes. I have a literal web chart of my shit cycle now, which I am slowly learning to unconsciously micro-manage. Takes a little effort but once a part is in the muscle memory, it makes it all worthwhile.
Good discussion. Nice enthusiasm. I suspect we all teach our nervous systems by using the gaps we see until we develop accuracy providing our form dose not deviate shot to shot. (Which is why we should develop consistent form before we can develop consistent accuracy). After we start hitting spot on at a given distance we probably fall by nature and self trust into what you called split vision and that perverts into what we like to call instinctive because we can't explain to anybody how it happens , our nervous systems are so well conditioned with repetition that it just knows. Indeed if we are in a live fire situation with a game animal and we lose confidence and try to think it out our brain will override our well trained nervous system and we'll surely goof it up. Thanks again for you input . Nice video.
Very informative and educational. Thank you very much
what I found interesting and refreshing was, you don't make many cuts, you can really talk through 1 (sub-)subject altogether in one go, no in between cuts ;-). That's a good job, few people can do that.
Apart from that, I came here with zero knwoledge of bows and still understood what you are saying, so, really well done ^^.
I loved what you said about the methods of aiming it when about to shoot at the target. I just received my new bow and have ordered some items I will need to use it. The next thing I have to do today is get some arrows locally along with the gloves I need to shoot it as soon as possible.
Sidney, these videos are a great help for me also
I completely agree with you on gapping and instinctive shooting being the same thing. It's just shooting an arrow! The way people explain their shooting has a certain emphasis on concentrating on either the Target or the arrow. However, both the Target and the arrow are in the visual plane on each shot and it's the archers mind interpreting what they want to focus on. I think it's important to experiment with focus and I've found out that in certain days I shoot better gapping than I would instinctive and vice versa. I typically Gap shoot but if I'm struggling with that an instinctive focus can pull me out of that funk. The shot cycle topically speeds up when I shoot instinctively and makes me feel like I get on Target quicker. When I Gap feels like I hover over the Target longer because it is a little harder to find looking at the arrow.
Good video, thanks. Shot a little when I was young and then again in the 40's. Now 60 and about to retire and getting to the local range when I can. I hope to have lost more time starting Jan 1, 2022 and would love to do a league next year. I started doing string walking a few months ago after a few tips from a nice gent shooting next to me but I am just not consistent enough at the moment. Will for sure give this video some thought my next time shooting.
I found split vision and point of aim to be the most consistent and comfortable for me. work in progress. Thanx for the video, love and laughter *o*
Very informative video. I make my own arrows and shoot 3 under and split finger and instinctive shooting. But am definitely going to try string walking. Thanks again
Spot on Gary, Myself have added "Split Vision" to my shooting, and that works fine with Longbow, and split fingers.( I always been an instinktive archer.
Gap is more about knowing the distance, and stringwalking is not allowed on Competition with Longbow.
My man, thank you so much, Monday night is going to be a different story
I shoot split vision but when I struggle I have to go back to instinctive or gap to recalibrate. Some days are great while others I struggle. Uncle Ted's advice of becoming one with the arrow is a good thought.
Great segment. You really educated me on this, of the years playing with mostly only two types, gap and instinctive never thought about them being similar. Thanks
You are far from stupid. I really appreciate your content, and I'm learning a lot. Glad I found your channel!
Good stuff Greg. Thanks for sharing.
great tutorial thank you Archery 101
I think you nailed! Outstanding job! String Popping and Heart Stopping.. From Texas
Good info as always. I finally got everything to start shooting thanks to your recommendation on arrow shafts for my Colt. Thanks to you for all your great videos. Honestly your the only person I commented on there video that responded, thanks. Looking forward to shooting soon my new hobbies.
Great video. I'm getting back into archery with my Black Hunter longbow at 30lbs.
another great video man. I learned a few new things. one thing I love about archery is its whatever feels good for you no matter what anybody says. I think its funny when people get mad at you for what you want to share. archery is an individual thing but it's something that we can all learn from everybody if that makes sense does to me. great video keep them coming
I’ve been watching for awhile and you are very easy to listen too also your a great teacher of mind vision!!!
People like me learn faster and understand better that way.
Thank you
Dan
Oh I’m a vision shooter too.
I didn’t know I was until today!! Lol
Great video! Awesome and to the point. I've built my take down bow & arrows by viewing RUclips and everything I know about archery I learned on RUclips. I Struggle trying to be consistant with my shot placement and found making marks as reference points on my bow helps to line up the shot when determining appropriate elevation for my arrow to reach it's mark. I am still trying to decide which aiming method works best for me. Thanks for the info.
Loving your channel (and presentation style)! So I am a Field archer(in the UK) and have always shot split finger gap; I'm no spring chicken, so to ease my ageing bones I use a fairly light bow ( around 35#). With split finger, my point-on distance is around 35 yards. The problem is that at closer targets (up to around 20yards or so) I have to use a big gap, around 24 inches. I can reduce this drastically by shooting 3 under, but then I can't reach the 40 + yard targets without aiming at the birds in flight! Also, a bit weirdly, my point on with 3 under and index finger touching the arrow seems to be about 15 yards, so string walking would only be useful if I was trying to shoot at something at 10 yards or less. What I can't figure out is why moving from split finger to three under makes such a huge difference to my point-on: after all, the difference in terms of string position is only the width of the forefinger plus the arrow and nocking point. Who would have thought that a bendy stick and string could initiate such mysteries! Can you offer any elucidation ?
It is not the distance change that is important it is the change in angle that you see that is. That little bit closer to the eye makes a huge difference.
Fantastic information thank you brother ❤
Good video, Greg. I like your style! I am a "pure" lefty, left eye dominant and all, and I am always fascinated by the different combinations of "handedness" that are possible in people and our learning potential. So often influenced by picking up a big brother's bow or guitar or golf clubs, right? Very impressed by the ability to switch due to injury!
Thanks for all your videos. Ur the best 👍
I'm a string walker. I crawl up and down the string from the nock/arrow. I place the point of my arrow smack dab on top of the bullseye. The closer to the target I am, the farther down from the nock I am. I ancher on my cheek bone and use a Yost tab.
Not how I shoot, but a lot of guys have a lot of success shooting that way.
IMHO, If your putting arrows on target consistently, its hard for me to say that your method is wrong.
Great vid, I would like to add that if you plan to shoot in traditional 3d classes they do not allow string or face walking.
I’m finding the gap shooting method is working very well!
hello. the hater are the jealous Archers who think they know it all. no one knows it all. were all learning as we go. we never stop learning that's what makes us humans..i love your channel
Really appreciate the way you share and convey your wealth of knowledge. Thank you. Great channel.
Great job on the explanation of how to aim in traditional archery ive never herd of these methods till i watched your video ..ive never realy tryed shootin with both my eyes open and also i guess you could say ive been aimin more towards spot on style shootin so next time i go out iam deffanatly gunna give these aiming styles a try..right now iam shootin and aquired an ol Ben pearson colt 7070.recurve bow with about a 37lb pull at a 28inch draw so this aught to be fun..thanks for the tips ..Mark B from IL
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Good explanation,thanks.I`ve just started trying barebow from Olympic recurve.LIKED AND SUBBED.
Thanks
Thank you for your clear explanation and taking the time to make all these video's ! I just started archery and I really appreciate your explanations about all issues involved. They are a big help and I enjoy watching them. Subscribed ! :)
This might be helpful for some folks. I'm right handed but shoot left handed because my vision is not great in my right eye. I don't use any of these methods because my depth perception isn't perfect.. I started gauging distance by a mark on my riser that is set at 30 yards. It allows me to be very accurate at all times. By raising the mark a little above or below the target I'm spot on. Can't tell you the number of knocks I've sheared off.
Ive never learned how to use sights on a bow and honestly I'm kind of proud of it because no one else I personally know can hit the broadside of a barn let a lone a target without their trusty sights. I use split vision and just kind of developed the ability to do so over time completely by accident because when I started I would keep going back and forth between gap and instinctive between shots then I just pretty much gave up on actually trying to hit the target and eventually I just got proficient at hitting the target. I don't really focus on any one thing and is almost like a 6th sense knowing when to release your arrow but not quite another 6th Sense kind of thing. Something you have to figure out on your own really
I really enjoy your content I'm struggling being right handed but blind in my right eye so I'm shooting lefty ok but I'm struggling finding a set method of shooting style but anyway I like your videos thanks
I'm just getting into archery and your channel is so charming.
Thank You
Great video thanks
Probably your best video, I’ve watched. 👍
OK, very informative and very clear explanations.
LOL... Loved the intro about coming and killing your cats... so true. RUclipsrs are crazy
SeedfulMusic because their reputation isn’t on the line on the internet. Nobody knows who’s commenting the first and last name of the person. So their true self can come out on the internet. Especially Americans I would say the majority of Americans are secretly crazy from the stuff I see go on.
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You comment sucks, I've been using archery equipment starting in 1960.
That comment about shooting cats will get you an arrow in your ass on my property.🎯
Thanks for all your videos I wish l knew about all this stuff years ago!
Other than instinctive aiming the most important skill by far is range determination/estimation because with Gap and String Waling it's based on knowing how far the target is. Because in order to determine how far up and down the string you need to draw at you need to know the distance. Unless your at a competition where the distances are know to you.
Excellent video!! Thank you again!
Great video. I personally consider instinctive shooting to be any style that doesn't use a fixed sight on the bow.
Very useful info n guide. Thank you very much, sir.
Hello! I found this very interesting. I literally know zero about archery, but find the sport fascinating. I live in rural West Cork, Ireland and have no idea of the legality of owning archery equipment (there are certainly no clubs within at least 3 hours drive from me), but with all the vast space and forestry around me, need to investigate if I would be breaking any laws if I bought equipment.
Sometimes its easier to ask for forgiveness than permission ;)
There is a way to practice split vision touch your nose with two fingers one left one right hand focus on any object above or below your fingers then move your fingers away from your nose about 3 in. see the hot dog? Separate your fingers slightly shut one eye then open and try the other that's split vision
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Thanks for sharing this video. Great information.
There are 3 basic methods of archery aiming - instinctive, soft sights, and hard sights. Instinctive - only looking at and concentrating on the target, that's it, nothing else is focused on or utilized, distances and arrow trajectory are learned via repetition and related to setting the bow arm angle. Soft sights - using any manner of point of reference between the arrow and the target, typically using some part of the arrow or bow or bowstring for gap or point of aim, and typically where target distances are known, but if distances are unknown then that will add in a guesstimate measure of instinctive aiming; most archers who claim to be instinctive shooters are actually soft sight shooters; string walkers are absolutely soft sight shooters. Hard sights - literally an actual bow sight that's calibrated for known distances, this is very exacting aiming; if the distances are unknown then that will add in a guesstimate measure of instinctive aiming. That's it, take yer pick.
Great video. Helped me a lot. Thank you.
Philosophically aiming is ether conscious or subconscious so the best choice should be the one that is the most accurate. If you shoot better using conscious aiming but want to be the one who shoots subconsciously you had to make a conscious decision to shoot that way.
Just a quick thought. I see the difference between gap/ string walking and instinctive, but you must realize that to use instinctive (which I do) you still must focus on the target before you go through your shot cycle.
Shot Instinctive for many years and there are many ways to shoot that way.
@@TradArchery101 I must admit that I jumped the gun a bit and didn't fully watch the video. I did continue to watch and realized that your continued statements did fall into line and make sense so I do apologize. I am an avid fan of yours. I have been shooting a Jerry Hill wildcat 60lb longbow for quite some time now. My father in law got me into shooting and showed me how, but your series on the shot cycle was not only correct but the finer points of each has taught me a lot. The most important point I have learned is how to keep the shoulder not only down but in. I have had many discussions with my father in law about what you teach and have even watched your videos with him. I appreciate all that you do for every level of archer out there. Keep up the great work. Thank you
just found your site. Its great. I learned by myself and use siting down the arrow to check left/right . Then i have a mark on my riser for distance that i guess works sort of like gap shooting, but it works well for me. However to be precise after 20 yards out i need to know the distance. Hunting this way i would never shopt at anything over 20 yards away. No idea what kind of aiming this would be called. It is fast though.
Another less common method I've heard of is "face-walking" that has a few different anchor points depending on 10, 20, 30, 40 yards for example, and the arrow point is positioned on the intended target spot in each case. I can be combined with the gap method for in-between distances for a fine adjustment.
I am currently experimenting with the "eastern way": I load the arrow to the side where my drawing hand is, and a little after release, I flick my bow stave holding hand's wrist to remove the bow stave from the way of the arrow, thus reducing archer's paradox. This is how Japanese and Mongolian traditional archers shoot.
Sorry, but you cannot reduce the Archer's Paradox. It is either there or it is not. The flexing of the arrow is not the paradox. The paradox is that it seems that when at brace height, that in order to hit the target it "Appears" to the archer , that the arrow much pass through the riser.
Moving the bow because of the arrow is just a myth. The arrow is already 1-2 yards away by the time your hand moves.😘
you know your video is very usefull for beginner like me..
Fantastic video. Thanks
you are awesome !!
You are!
I use fifth one, the point of the aim. It is like the string walking. Instead of counting the mark on the bow string, I count the mark on the bow.
thanks for the info
Love the head target lol
nice lesson!
Hey Greg! Good video, you covered it well I think. On 'Point of Aim': I used this with my kids when they were first learning. I did it with a label attached onto the belly of the bow above the arrow rest. It was a series of horizontal colored stripes to aid then in learning how high to hold the bow arm for the distance they were shooting. It worked very well in teaching them. They could reference the stripes while concentrating on the target. I did not use it for gap training as I had never heard of gapping at that time. On split vision, what about painting the tip or point in an optic color to make it easier to see?
Already know how to shoot I just thought I'd watch the video you really make things complicated when it's not
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Hey great stuff! also tune in to Clay Hayes great traditional shooting stuff and much more adventure and building. top notch
Great video
thanks buddy , im starting archery this saturday .. no idea what method they are going to be teaching me i have one bad eye thats slightly blurred vision but can still see very very well split vision would help me out thank you for the tips you have earned a subscriber! , could i ask a favour ? could you make a video on how to put a recurve bow together for when i first buy one , it would make a lot of difference instead of looking at it like a puzzle!! lol thanks again buddy !
great video ,,thanks
Hate mail? Over WHAT?!? This is insane. However, I still think spot on is not a bad way to aim when it comes to barebow archery. It's just mathematics and geometry, so it depends on distance, weight of the arrow, grains of the tip and poundage of the bow. Here's an example grain of tip staying the same at 100. : When I shoot my 48 pound bow at 20 yards, my aim is 90 degrees and tip of the arrow is spot on the center of the target . It works great with 500 spine arrows which weigh between 24 and 28 grams. Arrows between 20 and 24 grams, I find need to be aimed slightly lower than centre of the target as they do tend to have a bit of lift. Of course, same set up with 30 yards, - suddenly I need to aim 95-100 degrees, or slightly above the centre. But again, - use a lighter arrow of about 18 grams, - and you're aiming spot on again. There is a tiny bit of a difference whether you're using a fall away arrow rest, or just a standard pin type, but they're not that significant as the rest of variables. Still the point it, as long as my aim is steady - it works perfectly
Thank you very much. The video is very useful
Great video - very informative.
now I understand,.....instinctive is not instinctive,..... is unconscious,.......wow very deep,.......
What you should do is what i did. I have I.F.A.A target for 20-35 feet that have 4 targets. I copy one of them at 50% and now i can shoot in realy close and the target is not too big. It is just right amount dificulty.
It doesn't matter just don't arm just fire and it helps you the most
I too, am a lefty that shoots right handed. I got a bow for Christmas, in 1976, and learned how to shoot it, but it was right handed.
I bought a left handed bow decades later, and the concept of shooting an arrow with my left hand seemed no do-able for me. I gave it to someone.
Thank you for your reply, I'm still trying to figure this out, not sure if I should try this CRAWL or just GAP.. I've been just looking and trying to shoot instinctive, but my consistency is really lacking beyond 15 yards.. really bad... Thanks again for your advice.. I'll keep you posted on my progress, it will be slow do to work n other responsibilities, but I'll get it done!! Thank you!!!
Rodney,
When deciding on which method to use, you need to know a few things.
1) What is it that you want to do? (Hunt, competition, etc)
2) one you got that, then you have to ask, which method will best fit that
3) The final question would be "How accurate do I want to be"
Another option is Split Vision, it is a combination of GAP and instinctive. I use that the majority of the time, but when I need to make a good shot, I use GAP.
Archery 101 Thank you very much!
Im primarily interested in hunting, but I do enjoy target. I shoot target 300 and 3D for practice..there are no ranges in my area..I just finished shooting in between doctor appointments, arrows definitely need tuned, and learning the sight Picture is a new experience.. plus would help when I can actually CONCENTRATE and not be rushed between appointments..I really appreciate your time and advise!!!