Been shooting split vision for 50 years. My mentor was a student o Howard Hill. We both grew up in the same home town as Mr Hill. Been to his home twice.
Thank you immensely being there as a great teacher and sharing without any hidden selfishness for a confused shooters out here. Your teaching is going to help me improve my shootings and defined my principles of shooting.
This is the most clear and concise explanation video of split vision, instictive, gap. I find that split vision works best for me but i also use instictive and gap, love em all and they all have great benefits.
Thank you for making me understand what I couldn't put into words. I loved how you explained spit vision so clearly. It's feels like I just upgraded my brain. 🌟
Great vid, nicely explained. You and Jeff have entertained me for hours. 3D courses here in Michigan don't have the terrain like you do in the east. I enjoy both of you guys' s videos. You two are the best on the Tube for recreational archery. Keep em coming.
You are a great teacher. I've always shot instinctively and split vision is a great tool to know it's like shooting skeet both eyes opened getti g the whole picture. Thanks for this video ! Subbed
Rich M Thanks for the tips on the 3 methods of shooting , very informative , I'm just getting into trad archery and starting to get better groups just to shoot my long bow.
Great video. I’m instinctive up close, split as the range moves over 15ish yards and closer to gap by 40. Great discussion on the transition. Thank you
Excellent video. This is exactly the way I was taught to shoot by the very talented, and down to earth, Rick Welch. I could take lessons from that man and comprehend so easily. You and he are great instructors. Thank you for sharing!
As usual, another great video. You have great skill in both instruction and archery. I really enjoy your style of instruction. You have proven that you can teach an old dog new tricks. Semper Fidelis. Keep em coming Army.
Great video. I had a huge problem getting my kid to understand split vision, he couldnt see the point when focused on the target or kinda appreciate its presence. I think the fact that there is a lot of double vision going on, bow, knuckles, arm guard, arrow shaft, it gets confusing. So, I used the old trick of the sausage finger, bringing both index fingers together and looking through them to something behind, a two ended finger appears. Once he got that I explained how just holding up one finger vertically gives two fingers when looking through, both eyes open of course. We transitioned to arrow points and eventually just called them "the ghost arrows". Took a while but he uses it now to help get on target and after that uses instinctive to shoot, been really good for him on Field shoots. Depending on which is your strong eye though, you use one of the ghost arrows (left or right) to aim for that imaginary "X". ..... I think I'm talking about the same thing ??
Thanks for putting these different aiming methods side by side and into perspective for me my friend. I appreciate your humble approach. I’ve watched plenty of your videos and you’ve contributed significantly to my progress with my recurve. Apologies if you’ve covered this before, but does eye dominance have much of an effect on these methods?
Very good explanation. Most archers promote their own style and you don't get the other perspectives. Deer here in "Mayberry" NC use camo duct tape on their legs, lol.
Hey man. A lot of guys talk a lot about different theories, so do you and thats ok. What matters to me is putting arrows on target. I have to say, when you actually start shooting.........your a very skilled archer! Would love to see more of your shooting!
This is how I aim..I look at the target and in my perifial vision i point at the target with the arrow. Not the tip but the whole arrow... just like pointing at something with your finger..
Brilliant stuff.. I've started making my arrows 4 Fletch any plans on making a video on why you prefer 4 Fletch arrows.. and maybe something on how you set up your arrow shelf on your bows ?? ..
Now it's settled.. I must use Instinct-a-split gapta vision! LoL. But for real, this sheds some light on the way I shoot. At close range out to 15 yards it's instinctive, I guess I use split vision out to 25-30. Beyond that I do gap shoot. I seem to be point on at 55 yards with my Jeff Krug, finger in the corner of my mouth, anchor point!
Have seen or tested for convergence or suppression with the Brock string test. Might cure double vision when looking at arrow tip,with both eyes open.? Frank
Another great video!! Would it be fair to say that split vision is like a back stop or double check for trad shooting?. As a long term traditional shooter lm going to give this a try. Cheers again for another top effort.
I've been shooting instinctive for 16 years and have been trying to do gap to learn something new, but it's been nearly impossible for my brain to click with it. But I think I am transitioning to split vision. It might be for me since when doing straight instinctive shooting I have always had no problem with elevation, it just kind of comes naturally. But as you say, maybe it will be a bridge for a while and then gap will suddenly click.
This is also known as the Howard Hill style. I have done this from the beginning without knowing this is what I was doing and just do this from day one. If you think this method is hard to do or takes too much time then look at Video of Howard Hill put on RUclips doing this same method and he can hit some of the smallest targets I have seen using a modern style American longbow or the Flatbow style of longbow.
Well wow, I was shooting with a fixed crawl and using the tip of the arrow. It wasn't for me, I kept seeing 2 images. So I decided to use gap, kindof. I didn't want a huge gap that I had to compensate for. Soo.. I used a fix crawl, put my middle finger at the corner of my mouth instead of the index finger. Turns out I was using split vision WITH a fixed crawl. Neat.
I learned trad alone, as i came from olympic archery, i use olympic face anchor, raise both hands at the level of my nose, draw updown to my anchor and "feel" the target, and i feel the target, i stop my bow hand at the high i felt. As my anchor is low, i dont see my target with my left eye (left handed). Im not the best but still not bad at All. Instictive is the way i value the most because, it All about feeling and symbiosis with the bow. And it annoys me very much when gap shooter with deflex reflex bows claim that they are better...
Anyone can shoot and adjust things like this on a range that they shoot at all of the time. How do you do this in the field, on a target that is new to you? That’s the question.
Target really has nothing to do with it. It is about distance. You know that at such and such a distance you need to aim spot on, high or low. You learn that on the range, you apply it in the woods.
Great video, good explanation of including this method. Looks like a fun time was had as well. I like your opening in your 'studio', is that one of Jeff's hats hung on the wall?
It is a hat of his, but not the ones he wears. We wore that in a skit we did in one of our videos. The Clacker was from a shoot, as was the duck. I want to slowly add things from the videos to the wall.
This is how I shoot. Split vision. Some say the arrow cannot be seen while shooting instinctive. But I see what you do, and I don’t think I can stop seeing the arrow in my peripheral vision! Do you also know where the string is? Thanks. Great video.
Thx, great vid and solid shooting. I have trouble getting consistency from shooting instinctive. Especially at 20+ yard range. It seems to be some mental/trust snap. If first arrow goes too bad, confidence goes low and 2nd, 3rd arrows is pretty random. This split thing could help as you say to correct things, will try. I understand about checking were point was to adjust vertical. But, do you also check point horisontal position (alignment)? In my instinctive style I look down the shaft towards the target to align during draw but when reaching anchor I shift focus 100% to the target spot until release. Sometimes I clearly hit wrong sideways but I think its mainly due to poor form (bow arm not pushing forward enough) or bad release in those instances, but who knows, it could be partly bad alignment so maybe checking horisontal tip pos in the split vision phase as well. Unless it gets too much to check.
I found that if i shift my focus too quickly, i shoot off. I believe it is from something I was taught years ago in racing. "The hands follow the eyes". You look at the target and then lift your eyes upward and you hands just naturally follow. When I draw, I hit all my marks and then check my aim, the point is both vertical and Horizontal. I will say that I mainly go by how the sight picture "feels" . I just "know" where it belong.
@@TradArchery101 thx. Ok, to be clear, so its not like you note that point is exactly on a spot on the ground or somwhere on the target (below were you wanna hit). Its more a total picture of the sight vision with focus on arrow tip before moving focus on hitzone? Correct?
It can be done that way. I know people who keep the "Total Sight Picture" the whole time. I do this from time to time, when I feel really confident that I can hit it (usually close shots). But when I need to make a quality shot. I look down the arrow, put it where I want it and then slowly shift my focus up to where I want it to hit. I can't say there is just one way. We all think and work different. What works for you may not work for me and vise versa.
@@TradArchery101 ok thanks, I understand now. I will experiment some to see what could work for me. All the best from sweden and keep the great vids coming. /Fredrik
Hi Greg. Great video. Really informative. I'm an instinctive archer. How can I train for split vision? I need practice methods I can use for myself and the guys I teach. I'll be greatful if you can show/write some
Great question. They key is being able to "open" up your vision to see the arrow. One way, which can help but also can lead to decreased accuracy is to when drawing, look at the arrow and when at full draw, slowly change your focus to the target. Once you can "see" the arrow, your mind becomes "aware" of it and just naturally see it.
Thanks for reply. When I shoot with both eyes open using tip of arrow,I see two arrows,I have to pick correct arrow for my dominant eye {left.} very irritating. Shooting instinctive ok no problem. I close one eye when gapping. I'm try Brock string eye exercise ,see if that helps. FP
Let me ask you this, when you draw, what are you looking at? I have found that if I look at the target, my right eye wants to take over. But if I look at the target and right before I draw, shift my vision to the arrow shaft closest to my eye, That eye stays dominant. Sounds weird, but it is how it works for me.
I don't have a dominant eye. Test after test, if I use my right thumb, my right eye is dominant, same with the left. The test where you put one hand over the other to make a diamond? The hand that is closer to my face determines my dominant eye. Split vision is the best of both worlds for me. I struggled a bit in the beginning with pure gap, got a little better with instinctive, then I realized I was actually shooting split vision. Then I focused on shooting split vision. I shoot as fast as an instinctive shooter. I am primarily focused on the target but I can still be aware of the arrow at the same time. When I focus on the target with both eyes open, I see two arrows, I just use the left arrow.
What grip were you using in the Instinctive/Split Vision portion. Hard to see but it looked like 3 under. Is this your normal instinctive grip or do you use it just for split vision?
I used split and three under in the video. I use split for Instinctive and Three under for GAP in the video. I normally shoot three under. But shoot split from time to time, depending on the bow.
@@TradArchery101 Thx. I'm new to archery. Been shooting for about a month. Instinctive seems to give me the best results but I'll try split. I normally shoot split-finger.
Great question, I keep both eyes open. But I have to be careful, if I look a certain way, my mind will use the wrong eye! Yes, studies and science has shown that the dominate eye can switch sides.
It is within your field of vision. How the mind works, is that it prioritizes that which is important and makes that for a lack of a better word, "High definition". Like 1080p, as move away from that point, the definition decreases and your mind pay no attention to it. At least that is what they said in the show Brain Games about vision.
I, personally can answer that with a simple yes. Or, I could, until I changed to split and gap aiming. Some shots I still shoot instinctive, and then all dissapears, it remains just the spot I want to hit. As a long time just instinctive shooter, I want to point out, that I even had considerable difficulties when I began to change to reference aiming, because at full draw I simply didn't see anything else but the target. I had to first recondition myself without the bow, and learn to get my sight picture right. It is as is sead here, "it depends what the brain prioritizes". Your question seems a bit weird to me. It's like You are trying to defend a theory, which goes around, that nobody shoots without references (or instinctive, if You want to call it like that). But it is just a theory, mind You. It's the same, when You are reading a very interesting book, and You cannot hear someone talking to you, despite "that its right in front of your nose." You can become so conditioned to concentrate on just the certain things that you don't see the arrow at all. If You have a bow over 55 pound, and a relatively low anchor point, because nobody learned You better, like I did, than I can assure You: arrow doesn't seem "right under your nose" in relation to the target. So, don't judge from Your perspective only.
What do you out at 30 yds I shoot split finger Instictive I have got good at 20 and under when I do my part. But out at 30 40 it really changes quickly. And I wanna shoot with These compund Guys I got Smoked at a 3d shoot recently. I quickly got humbled these guys are shooting 40 50 yrds. Well I need to at least not lose my arrows at that distance. It really made me realize Im not as good as I thought. So Im only shoot 40# 700 carrbon Warriors 125 gr 4" parabolic 3 fletch various bows. I was using 600s I loved but Im down to 3 left.
I set my bows to shoot "Point On' at 30 yards. The reason I do this is the IBO has the max distance for Traditional set at 30 yards. I made the hardest shot, the easiest to do. You will not be able to compete with compounds, they have sights, stabilizers and releases. Don't shoot from their stakes, shoot from ours.
Im definitely not Competing I am just fun shooting. But I would like to at least hit the target. Now I just tried to look and see where my point was and It was off 6" to the Right at 10 yards to hit the center these shafts are bare shafting pretty dang straight out to 20 yds. They fly like darts so whats going on?
The Bear looks like its not cut to center the Browning is almost center thats the arrow is slightly left of the string Right handed shooter I have been shooting them both.
@@kennethsmith1744 Bows not cut past center will not have the arrow on the target. Another factor is your anchor point. If you anchor off to the side, like on the corner of your mouth, the arrow will not be center, but off to the side.
Ok im not really sure what I'm doing. Kinda new @ this and really enjoy it, but I can tell I've hit 3 birds in flight not really knowing what I'm doing. Would that be instinctive ? Thanks for your reply 👍
Yes 3 different days, I just figured they were lucky shots. Back then I never knew anything about different styles of shooting or arrow differences. What I learned was there method of evasion in flight when they seen the arrow coming. So I anticipated there move before I shot Im not a hunter, i just enjoyed the challenge and those ravens were causing problems. They eventually wouldn't come around anymore and I got bored just shooting hay bales after that.
Love Howard Hill, but look at it this way. How many people have won using his method? Not many. Just because it worked for him, does not mean it will work for you and I.
Dude, you take WAAAAAAAAY to long to explain simple ideas in most of your videos. You seem to totally know what your talking about, but it's so frustrating to have to filter though 20 plus minutes of talking to get to 4 minutes of content that I am looking for. Not trying to hurt or disrespect you. Make your videos concise and viewership will go up! Much respect.
Been shooting split vision for 50 years. My mentor was a student o Howard Hill. We both grew up in the same home town as Mr Hill. Been to his home twice.
I live about 40 miles south of Wilsonville in Centreville haha
I used Instinctive for years and switched to split-vision. I am much better now on the longer shots. Howard Hill was the master with split-vision!
Thank you immensely being there as a great teacher and sharing without any hidden selfishness for a confused shooters out here. Your teaching is going to help me improve my shootings and defined my principles of shooting.
This is the most clear and concise explanation video of split vision, instictive, gap. I find that split vision works best for me but i also use instictive and gap, love em all and they all have great benefits.
Thank you for making me understand what I couldn't put into words. I loved how you explained spit vision so clearly. It's feels like I just upgraded my brain. 🌟
Great vid, nicely explained. You and Jeff have entertained me for hours. 3D courses here in Michigan don't have the terrain like you do in the east. I enjoy both of you guys' s videos. You two are the best on the Tube for recreational archery. Keep em coming.
You are a great teacher. I've always shot instinctively and split vision is a great tool to know it's like shooting skeet both eyes opened getti g the whole picture. Thanks for this video ! Subbed
Great video... Clear, precise...just love it like all your other vids....yeah...burn that yellow...love that phrase. Enjoyed it so much.
Rich M Thanks for the tips on the 3 methods of shooting , very informative , I'm just getting into trad archery and starting to get better groups just to shoot my long bow.
Great video Gregg! Your channel is like archery science class.
Great video. I’m instinctive up close, split as the range moves over 15ish yards and closer to gap by 40. Great discussion on the transition. Thank you
But what if You? Haha.
Great show, unreal edit an crystal clear footage, beauty mate.
This guy does such great videos. Props!
Great explanation. I never really knew how I was shooting, I called it instinctive. Guess I’ve been shooting this way the whole time.
Excellent video.
This is exactly the way I was taught to shoot by the very talented, and down to earth, Rick Welch.
I could take lessons from that man and comprehend so easily.
You and he are great instructors.
Thank you for sharing!
Like all your videos- simply great
Maybe one of your best videoes😁
Thanks!
Great Video Greg!
Very good explained!
Saw the torch and silver wings on the riser, automatically subscribed... Airborne!
I shoot split vision with fair results. Thanks for the video
Very nice video. Thanks for posting.
As usual, another great video.
You have great skill in both instruction and archery.
I really enjoy your style of instruction.
You have proven that you can teach an old dog new tricks.
Semper Fidelis.
Keep em coming Army.
Great video!
Great video. I had a huge problem getting my kid to understand split vision, he couldnt see the point when focused on the target or kinda appreciate its presence. I think the fact that there is a lot of double vision going on, bow, knuckles, arm guard, arrow shaft, it gets confusing. So, I used the old trick of the sausage finger, bringing both index fingers together and looking through them to something behind, a two ended finger appears. Once he got that I explained how just holding up one finger vertically gives two fingers when looking through, both eyes open of course. We transitioned to arrow points and eventually just called them "the ghost arrows". Took a while but he uses it now to help get on target and after that uses instinctive to shoot, been really good for him on Field shoots. Depending on which is your strong eye though, you use one of the ghost arrows (left or right) to aim for that imaginary "X". ..... I think I'm talking about the same thing ??
Thanks for putting these different aiming methods side by side and into perspective for me my friend.
I appreciate your humble approach.
I’ve watched plenty of your videos and you’ve contributed significantly to my progress with my recurve.
Apologies if you’ve covered this before, but does eye dominance have much of an effect on these methods?
You are right on.
excellent video
Very good explanation. Most archers promote their own style and you don't get the other perspectives. Deer here in "Mayberry" NC use camo duct tape on their legs, lol.
Hey man. A lot of guys talk a lot about different theories, so do you and thats ok. What matters to me is putting arrows on target.
I have to say, when you actually start shooting.........your a very skilled archer!
Would love to see more of your shooting!
Check out 3D Archery on RUclips, mainly videos of me shooting
This is how I aim..I look at the target and in my perifial vision i point at the target with the arrow. Not the tip but the whole arrow... just like pointing at something with your finger..
Good Shooting man holy cow
Brilliant stuff.. I've started making my arrows 4 Fletch any plans on making a video on why you prefer 4 Fletch arrows.. and maybe something on how you set up your arrow shelf on your bows ?? ..
Now it's settled.. I must use Instinct-a-split gapta vision! LoL. But for real, this sheds some light on the way I shoot. At close range out to 15 yards it's instinctive, I guess I use split vision out to 25-30. Beyond that I do gap shoot. I seem to be point on at 55 yards with my Jeff Krug, finger in the corner of my mouth, anchor point!
Next would you explain how to hear color. That would be awesome
5-10 hits of clean acid and Hendrix electric ladyland out in the deserr.
Have seen or tested for convergence or suppression with the Brock string test. Might cure double vision when looking at arrow tip,with both eyes open.? Frank
Another great video!! Would it be fair to say that split vision is like a back stop or double check for trad shooting?. As a long term traditional shooter lm going to give this a try. Cheers again for another top effort.
Me like! Thanks!
I've been shooting instinctive for 16 years and have been trying to do gap to learn something new, but it's been nearly impossible for my brain to click with it. But I think I am transitioning to split vision. It might be for me since when doing straight instinctive shooting I have always had no problem with elevation, it just kind of comes naturally. But as you say, maybe it will be a bridge for a while and then gap will suddenly click.
This is also known as the Howard Hill style. I have done this from the beginning without knowing this is what I was doing and just do this from day one. If you think this method is hard to do or takes too much time then look at Video of Howard Hill put on RUclips doing this same method and he can hit some of the smallest targets I have seen using a modern style American longbow or the Flatbow style of longbow.
I must have just progressed to split, be cause now I’m more aware of my arrow than I remember in the past.
It tends to work that way
Well wow, I was shooting with a fixed crawl and using the tip of the arrow.
It wasn't for me, I kept seeing 2 images. So I decided to use gap, kindof. I didn't want a huge gap that I had to compensate for. Soo.. I used a fix crawl, put my middle finger at the corner of my mouth instead of the index finger.
Turns out I was using split vision WITH a fixed crawl. Neat.
From my understanding, Howard Hill was a split vision shooter and he was probably the best ever to live.
I learned trad alone, as i came from olympic archery, i use olympic face anchor, raise both hands at the level of my nose, draw updown to my anchor and "feel" the target, and i feel the target, i stop my bow hand at the high i felt. As my anchor is low, i dont see my target with my left eye (left handed).
Im not the best but still not bad at All.
Instictive is the way i value the most because, it All about feeling and symbiosis with the bow.
And it annoys me very much when gap shooter with deflex reflex bows claim that they are better...
Anyone can shoot and adjust things like this on a range that they shoot at all of the time. How do you do this in the field, on a target that is new to you? That’s the question.
Target really has nothing to do with it. It is about distance. You know that at such and such a distance you need to aim spot on, high or low. You learn that on the range, you apply it in the woods.
I use split vision, anchor my index into the side of my nose. And shoot 1 over 2 under. But that's just what works for me personally.
Great video, good explanation of including this method. Looks like a fun time was had as well. I like your opening in your 'studio', is that one of Jeff's hats hung on the wall?
It is a hat of his, but not the ones he wears. We wore that in a skit we did in one of our videos. The Clacker was from a shoot, as was the duck. I want to slowly add things from the videos to the wall.
This is how I shoot. Split vision. Some say the arrow cannot be seen while shooting instinctive. But I see what you do, and I don’t think I can stop seeing the arrow in my peripheral vision! Do you also know where the string is? Thanks. Great video.
I "Know" where the string it, but I cannot see it. I shoot with the string just to the outside of my eye, it touches my eyebrow.
Thx, great vid and solid shooting. I have trouble getting consistency from shooting instinctive. Especially at 20+ yard range. It seems to be some mental/trust snap. If first arrow goes too bad, confidence goes low and 2nd, 3rd arrows is pretty random. This split thing could help as you say to correct things, will try. I understand about checking were point was to adjust vertical. But, do you also check point horisontal position (alignment)? In my instinctive style I look down the shaft towards the target to align during draw but when reaching anchor I shift focus 100% to the target spot until release.
Sometimes I clearly hit wrong sideways but I think its mainly due to poor form (bow arm not pushing forward enough) or bad release in those instances, but who knows, it could be partly bad alignment so maybe checking horisontal tip pos in the split vision phase as well. Unless it gets too much to check.
I found that if i shift my focus too quickly, i shoot off. I believe it is from something I was taught years ago in racing. "The hands follow the eyes". You look at the target and then lift your eyes upward and you hands just naturally follow.
When I draw, I hit all my marks and then check my aim, the point is both vertical and Horizontal. I will say that I mainly go by how the sight picture "feels" . I just "know" where it belong.
@@TradArchery101 thx. Ok, to be clear, so its not like you note that point is exactly on a spot on the ground or somwhere on the target (below were you wanna hit). Its more a total picture of the sight vision with focus on arrow tip before moving focus on hitzone?
Correct?
It can be done that way. I know people who keep the "Total Sight Picture" the whole time. I do this from time to time, when I feel really confident that I can hit it (usually close shots). But when I need to make a quality shot. I look down the arrow, put it where I want it and then slowly shift my focus up to where I want it to hit.
I can't say there is just one way. We all think and work different. What works for you may not work for me and vise versa.
@@TradArchery101 ok thanks, I understand now. I will experiment some to see what could work for me. All the best from sweden and keep the great vids coming. /Fredrik
Hi Greg.
Great video. Really informative.
I'm an instinctive archer. How can I train for split vision? I need practice methods I can use for myself and the guys I teach.
I'll be greatful if you can show/write some
Great question. They key is being able to "open" up your vision to see the arrow. One way, which can help but also can lead to decreased accuracy is to when drawing, look at the arrow and when at full draw, slowly change your focus to the target.
Once you can "see" the arrow, your mind becomes "aware" of it and just naturally see it.
Thanks for reply. When I shoot with both eyes open using tip of arrow,I see two arrows,I have to pick correct arrow for my dominant eye {left.} very irritating. Shooting instinctive ok no problem. I close one eye when gapping. I'm try Brock string eye exercise ,see if that helps. FP
Let me ask you this, when you draw, what are you looking at?
I have found that if I look at the target, my right eye wants to take over. But if I look at the target and right before I draw, shift my vision to the arrow shaft closest to my eye, That eye stays dominant. Sounds weird, but it is how it works for me.
I don't have a dominant eye. Test after test, if I use my right thumb, my right eye is dominant, same with the left. The test where you put one hand over the other to make a diamond? The hand that is closer to my face determines my dominant eye. Split vision is the best of both worlds for me. I struggled a bit in the beginning with pure gap, got a little better with instinctive, then I realized I was actually shooting split vision. Then I focused on shooting split vision. I shoot as fast as an instinctive shooter. I am primarily focused on the target but I can still be aware of the arrow at the same time. When I focus on the target with both eyes open, I see two arrows, I just use the left arrow.
Google "alternating ocular dominance."
What grip were you using in the Instinctive/Split Vision portion. Hard to see but it looked like 3 under. Is this your normal instinctive grip or do you use it just for split vision?
I used split and three under in the video. I use split for Instinctive and Three under for GAP in the video. I normally shoot three under. But shoot split from time to time, depending on the bow.
@@TradArchery101 Thx. I'm new to archery. Been shooting for about a month. Instinctive seems to give me the best results but I'll try split. I normally shoot split-finger.
One thing is down here we dont have access to Indoor ranges its a very sad state of affairs.
I know this is an older video but what is your backstop made of for indoor shooting? I hope you are well and I've learned a lot from your videos
It is layered foam. Not sure where the club gets it from.
They are thin layers that are stacked on each other.
do you always shoot with both eyes open or one eye closed when gapping or ???
Great question, I keep both eyes open. But I have to be careful, if I look a certain way, my mind will use the wrong eye! Yes, studies and science has shown that the dominate eye can switch sides.
How many meters dud you shoot in the hall and how many in nature? I'm from Czech, soI don't understand every words...Thanks
Indoor 18 Meters, First Outdoor 35 Meters, second out door, Second outdoor, 16 M
Wow this is my instincts tells me to do. I tried to change it but my shots got worse then go back again.
So are saying that, when you shoot instinctively you don't see the arrow at all and it's right there in front of your nose?
It is within your field of vision. How the mind works, is that it prioritizes that which is important and makes that for a lack of a better word, "High definition". Like 1080p, as move away from that point, the definition decreases and your mind pay no attention to it. At least that is what they said in the show Brain Games about vision.
I, personally can answer that with a simple yes. Or, I could, until I changed to split and gap aiming. Some shots I still shoot instinctive, and then all dissapears, it remains just the spot I want to hit.
As a long time just instinctive shooter, I want to point out, that I even had considerable difficulties when I began to change to reference aiming, because at full draw I simply didn't see anything else but the target. I had to first recondition myself without the bow, and learn to get my sight picture right.
It is as is sead here, "it depends what the brain prioritizes".
Your question seems a bit weird to me. It's like You are trying to defend a theory, which goes around, that nobody shoots without references (or instinctive, if You want to call it like that).
But it is just a theory, mind You.
It's the same, when You are reading a very interesting book, and You cannot hear someone talking to you, despite "that its right in front of your nose."
You can become so conditioned to concentrate on just the certain things that you don't see the arrow at all.
If You have a bow over 55 pound, and a relatively low anchor point, because nobody learned You better, like I did, than I can assure You: arrow doesn't seem "right under your nose" in relation to the target.
So, don't judge from Your perspective only.
Can you gap shoot with split fingers
Sorry for the delay, yes you can.
What do you out at 30 yds I shoot split finger Instictive I have got good at 20 and under when I do my part. But out at 30 40 it really changes quickly. And I wanna shoot with These compund Guys I got Smoked at a 3d shoot recently. I quickly got humbled these guys are shooting 40 50 yrds. Well I need to at least not lose my arrows at that distance. It really made me realize Im not as good as I thought. So Im only shoot 40# 700 carrbon Warriors 125 gr 4" parabolic 3 fletch various bows. I was using 600s I loved but Im down to 3 left.
I set my bows to shoot "Point On' at 30 yards. The reason I do this is the IBO has the max distance for Traditional set at 30 yards. I made the hardest shot, the easiest to do.
You will not be able to compete with compounds, they have sights, stabilizers and releases. Don't shoot from their stakes, shoot from ours.
Im definitely not Competing I am just fun shooting. But I would like to at least hit the target. Now I just tried to look and see where my point was and It was off 6" to the Right at 10 yards to hit the center these shafts are bare shafting pretty dang straight out to 20 yds. They fly like darts so whats going on?
@@kennethsmith1744
How is the bow cut?
The Bear looks like its not cut to center the Browning is almost center thats the arrow is slightly left of the string Right handed shooter I have been shooting them both.
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Bows not cut past center will not have the arrow on the target. Another factor is your anchor point. If you anchor off to the side, like on the corner of your mouth, the arrow will not be center, but off to the side.
Hmmmm. Listened and to me it's sounds like Zen.
In many ways it is, good point
Are you closing your non dominant eye?
No I am not. Both eyes open
Who is the maker of that bow?
That is an old Hoyt Scout
turns out I've been doing this without knowing it
So what method for a moving target?
You can use any of them on a moving target. I use split vision on moving targets all the time with no problems.
Ok im not really sure what I'm doing. Kinda new @ this and really enjoy it, but I can tell I've hit 3 birds in flight not really knowing what I'm doing. Would that be instinctive ?
Thanks for your reply 👍
@@frankfitz3421
Three birds in flight? Out of how many tries?
Only you know what method you are using.
Yes 3 different days, I just figured they were lucky shots. Back then I never knew anything about different styles of shooting or arrow differences. What I learned was there method of evasion in flight when they seen the arrow coming. So I anticipated there move before I shot Im not a hunter, i just enjoyed the challenge and those ravens were causing problems. They eventually wouldn't come around anymore and I got bored just shooting hay bales after that.
@@frankfitz3421
Then you did not shoot instinctive. You shot what I was taught as “Kentucky Windage”. Which I use to this day.
All the way Airborne
I know this is cheating but what about using something on your riser for split finger dang Im getting excited.
If you want to compete, the rules will not allow that.
Paratrooper
Howard hill taught u cant your bow he used split vision
Love Howard Hill, but look at it this way. How many people have won using his method? Not many. Just because it worked for him, does not mean it will work for you and I.
IMHO I think any good instinctive Archer subconsciously uses split vision. If they didn't follow up shots would be all over the place.
Dude, you take WAAAAAAAAY to long to explain simple ideas in most of your videos. You seem to totally know what your talking about, but it's so frustrating to have to filter though 20 plus minutes of talking to get to 4 minutes of content that I am looking for. Not trying to hurt or disrespect you. Make your videos concise and viewership will go up! Much respect.
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That is because not everyone learns in the same way.