Well, I know this - a direct POSITIVE since Tom's recent fire at Gainsville, the entire car building community ARE CONSIDERING HOW THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF FIRE SYSTEMS. Virtually all the Rocky Mountain / Drag Week participants who have cars under construction that intend being FAST are talking about where they'll install their fire system. This is the benefit of Tom's fire and his sharing what's happening with his work in that direction on RUclips. CUDO's to you Tom for sharing.
Safety gear is there for a reason, not to stop people from having fun, it only needs to save you once, ok some of the rules are old and have been updated but it still holds true.
One thing to add about the fire system maintenance is to check the cable moves feely every so often. We were testing a baja truck a week before a race and had a little rollover and it caught fire. Pulled the fire bottle lever and the cable wouldn't budge. We ended up breaking the handle and the bottles never went off. Now we loosen the cable at the bottles and makes sure it moves freely every couple months.
@@sickthemag yes best collab I have seen so far! Love how laid back you and Finnegan are! Also can't wait to see what you and Alex's dad have going! He builds some amazing cars!
Tom first few times I saw you you were sooo intense!! 2.0 was testing you, and at the end you got it!!!! Now we see you as you are!! I will fallow you and your volg/ u tube what ever you share with us for ever!! You rock Sir! And I truly enjoy an appropriate all you share with Us!! Plus the lesson plans are the best!!!!!!!
Easily one of the best builds I've ever seen. Way to not compromise the functionality, and be intent from the beginning to include your friends. 8.50 is fast enough for a classic caddy
This is why your engine builders charge you big bucks to stand around and discuss it but when they are real pro's at it, its worth the money and the knowledge they drop
I just wanted to pop in and say, thanks for taking safety so seriously! It's been lax for so long on some *very* popular cars I feel like it's only a matter of time before tragedy strikes again. The more safety is pushed the better. What I really want is for the tracks to finally start cracking down too.
Tom and Finnegan together is like magic. Really loved this interaction and all of the ideas thrown around and presented. Really cool stuff and hope to see more!
Great episode Tom. Finnegan may thank you one day for your input in Firesafety but let’s hope that never happens. I’m drooling over what’s coming up. 😛😛😛
Really love hearing your input on the build of this car, this will help Finn a ton even if they decide to deviate afterwards. But something unrelated that you probably did not intend or notice, but looked odd on camera, so my advice: If Newbern brings up a point or a question, then please answer to him (instead of Finn). Cheers and keep up the good content.
Having the auto fire system just makes good sense. If you go ablaze at 200 plus and cannot see you're busy trying to keep it straight and get it stopped and hoping your chutes don't burn. Not worrying that the fire system will self start is a huge benefit IMHO.
Michael you have the best bloke in the business asking about heavy cars . Tom Bailey's builds are absolutely fantastic. I always watch him. Can't wait to see the Caddie up and goin'.👍😤😚🤬
just a bunch of car guys doing car guy stuff😂😂 i love how the guys just talk about the memories and joy of drag racing and they just keep er going😂😂👏 thats the stuff you love to hear
Why not use hydraulic jacks built into the caddy like British touring cars of the 80s, aka ford 3 door cosworths . To help with servicing the car or take the rear wheels off
The car is a ton too heavy to start with. Those air jacks are quite heavy and eat space as well. And have very little travel. A couple of external air jacks have more travel and cost less. Though then you need a compressor or as they do for built in air jacks a large air bottle. Not the thing to carry on Drag Week!
The grey matter that was burning and the laughs had during this video was awesome. The way builds should be. Mates having a laugh and sticking it to each other. If your not there you can't defend yourself (Michael Wayne Cotten). You fellas would fit into the Aussie car culture like a hand in a glove. Love the content.
That Caddy is OFF THE HOOK!! We can hardly wait to watch it bust a 1000 ft pass in the low 8's and tear up 200mph PLUS in the 1/2 mile! The car is built right to get that done.
And that's why Cold Fire is an amazing thing, it doesn't leave a residue and it's just a concentrate mixed with water and put in any container and then pressurized with an air compressor.. So if it starts getting low on pressure you just add more. Tom you can always put in a little electric motor to turn an AC compressor and have it all as a contained unit in the truck that's quick disconnect from the battery and then you can pull it out when running to save weight and have it in on the street. You can also add toluene into the methanol to make it visible when it burns. Let me guess, you are going to make a nitro car.
When @26:03 Tom mentioned the master cylinder can be just in front of the seat, remember a few of the mid '50's GMC pickups had theirs in that location. Access was flip the floor mat back, remove a couple screws from the cover and service.
That thing is so gangster. Maybe place both of the turbos forward of the core support with a nice grill mounted intake set up to feed them fresh air and move the radiator into the trunk or under the trunk floor with a remote mounted meziere pump. Fuel cell in the trunk. Might make your build a touch easier and still allow for it to be done very nicely and convenient to work on. Could also hinge mount the radiator under the trunk floor for ease of working on the rear suspension. Just a thought. Love the build brother, following along as you go 🙌🏼
I have 14" willwoods with 6 piston calipers front, 4 piston rear on a 1969 Camaro. Bought all the stuff from willwood. No booster required if you get the right master cylinder. best stopping car ive ever owned
Thanks Tom, this was an awesome video, AND the 'sneek peek',, haell yeah!! Funny thing, when I made my comment about other RMRW / DW builders considering their fire systems Dennis Taylor was one of them on my mind. Now we see you and he are talking, most likely about the 2021 events, too cool :)
I have certification and install fire systems in restaurants. A couple things: 1) those nozzles make nice, round divots in whatever appendage hits them, and 2) safety pin is great, but if you fail to notice that the fusible like (glass bowl) is broken when you pull the pin - the system will activate. I haven't seen your systems, but is there an electrical cut off when the system deploys? In restaurant systems, gas and electric are mechanically shut off when the system goes off (which leads to fun phone calls from people who are mad because nothing turns on in the morning - because the system went off at night to put out a fire - I install liquid systems, so you don't readily see they went off like powder would show).
I guess we know where the turbos are going now.... Totally digging the brain storming session throwing ideas at problems to see what sticks ....it's obvious you Sir are a pro at tossing darts instead of rocks. Great video!
Good call on having a fire system in the Caddie !! You only get one shot at it 👍 While you're setting the system up in the car, try running some NO2 thru it, it'll show you exactly what you're hitting and or missing !!
I just started following you recently after watching you go out and Finnegan's boat I've seen you knew about you. I've been walking your older videos and catching up and by far very great enjoy listening to you talk about the car mechanics of it all.
Tom I hope you really put some time into this RUclips thing!!! Your videos are freaking awesome! Not sure if your friends with lutz and fireball or Larson but maybe do interview or video you hanging out with these types of guys. Oh do a video of you servicing your hot rods
this is going to be an unforgettable week for aiden! i cant wait to go on a drag and drive next year once my car is together! probably Midwest drags since its in my neck of the woods!
I know that conversation well :o) *All we have to fit in there is the power steering pump, alternator, water pump, dry sump pump, main group2 hydraulic pump, spool valve, dry sump tank, and luckily the rad is in the back, but the 5 ton winch goes where that was, and it needs a bull bar you can snatch tow off :D Many an hour spent just staring at it and hanging bits in the hole with bungee cords .
I love the look of the coupe but if his intention was to fit people in the back seat for drag week then I would have started off with a sedan. I've been eyeballing affordable small Aussie style drag sedans like Mavericks to turn into cool Drag Week car's. I had a brown/ white 74 Grabber as my high school car in 97 when they were the furthest thing from cool so a clean four door Maverick with a boosted gen 2 coyote and 6r80 with a 4r200 hub running 8.50's sounds perfect.
With turbo's mounted up front near headlights the heat won't be going into the cab and firewall...shorter inlet, weight up front, headlight air inlet for cold induction, maintaining and servicing, it looks better..that's my vote...👍👍🔥🔥
What you need is are custom turbos made for this car. Where the exhaust side is in the back area and a long shaft to the intake compressor side in the front of the car. Then you have less plumbing to take up space.
Been following this build, on his channel. nice to see it in the garage and ready to work on He could also run dual radiators and the middle low mounted turbo as well
Right on that must be nice Finnegan having neighbors like that and I'm the same way hate to borrow anything and never do, and do that fact don't like loaning things out I used to but when you stuff gets broken every time comes back gets old
Just my experience of 20 plus years servicing heavy duty trucks, if you have the option to make the tranny tunnel removable go for it, you will not regret it.
I would put a valve in the exhaust so I could run just headers during the race and switch it back over to full exhaust for the road miles. You put a filter on the turbo, it might collapse or restrict the air flow so you will be unable to run the boost levels as high as you want/need too as well~!~ Talk to Cleetus about it had that problem once too.
Place the air box down from the hood with the air filter. What about a fuel cell with the hood latch from one side to the other and it would direct the air into the rad.
Well, I know this - a direct POSITIVE since Tom's recent fire at Gainsville, the entire car building community ARE CONSIDERING HOW THEY'RE TAKING CARE OF FIRE SYSTEMS. Virtually all the Rocky Mountain / Drag Week participants who have cars under construction that intend being FAST are talking about where they'll install their fire system. This is the benefit of Tom's fire and his sharing what's happening with his work in that direction on RUclips. CUDO's to you Tom for sharing.
Safety gear is there for a reason, not to stop people from having fun, it only needs to save you once, ok some of the rules are old and have been updated but it still holds true.
Bailey is just a cool guy! Its funny how Finnegan has built all these awesome cars and still covets his neighbors build!
Yo this is getting Bugatti fast. Large blower sedan on a luxury setup, air pressure being thrown at high output, high cylinder powertrain is so cool.
One thing to add about the fire system maintenance is to check the cable moves feely every so often. We were testing a baja truck a week before a race and had a little rollover and it caught fire. Pulled the fire bottle lever and the cable wouldn't budge. We ended up breaking the handle and the bottles never went off. Now we loosen the cable at the bottles and makes sure it moves freely every couple months.
Best colab I've seen for a long time!
Absolutely love your content and I also love Finnegan.
Wow, thank you!
@@sickthemag yes best collab I have seen so far! Love how laid back you and Finnegan are! Also can't wait to see what you and Alex's dad have going! He builds some amazing cars!
I love hearing the process of working through issues. Awesome content!
Glad you enjoyed it! We want to have viewers feel like they're just hanging out and talking through everything with us.
@@sickthemag Mission accomplished !
@@sickthemag absolutely nailed it this content is 11/10 man thanks for all the awesome vids best of luck this week at rocky mtn
Sweet .... Alex Taylor's dad is awesome. This is going to be EPIC!!!
Her dad is Amazing the kind of guy you want to be your father in law for sure
Her mom is awesome too, she does so much underrated stuff to help the shop work!
@@zepedrofd yes I did not mean to leave her out either you are correct they seems like a wonderful family
Dennis Taylor. Just saying, he has a name.
Tom first few times I saw you you were sooo intense!! 2.0 was testing you, and at the end you got it!!!! Now we see you as you are!! I will fallow you and your volg/ u tube what ever you share with us for ever!! You rock Sir! And I truly enjoy an appropriate all you share with Us!! Plus the lesson plans are the best!!!!!!!
Easily one of the best builds I've ever seen. Way to not compromise the functionality, and be intent from the beginning to include your friends. 8.50 is fast enough for a classic caddy
8.50 is enough to scare Grandma. What if he wants to scare Tom?
@@Rebar77_real 8.50 in that barge should be enough to make anyone pucker up, if not outright scare them... (I sooo want a ride!)
@@Rebar77_real I feel like Tom could be in a space shuttle and laugh at launch...
I actually got chills at the end 🤘🏻
This is why your engine builders charge you big bucks to stand around and discuss it but when they are real pro's at it, its worth the money and the knowledge they drop
26:29 'You'll might need 3 chutes' [...] 35:13 'especially with Cotten in the back'.
I just wanted to pop in and say, thanks for taking safety so seriously! It's been lax for so long on some *very* popular cars I feel like it's only a matter of time before tragedy strikes again. The more safety is pushed the better. What I really want is for the tracks to finally start cracking down too.
Tom and Finnegan together is like magic. Really loved this interaction and all of the ideas thrown around and presented. Really cool stuff and hope to see more!
Great episode Tom. Finnegan may thank you one day for your input in Firesafety but let’s hope that never happens.
I’m drooling over what’s coming up. 😛😛😛
Great ending! Mike needs to talk to Dennis about a fiberglass hood for the Caddy!
100% that was my first thought he should just make a full fiberglass front end since he wants it to tilt anyway
Cleetus sent me. Wheels up brother.
Really love hearing your input on the build of this car, this will help Finn a ton even if they decide to deviate afterwards. But something unrelated that you probably did not intend or notice, but looked odd on camera, so my advice: If Newbern brings up a point or a question, then please answer to him (instead of Finn). Cheers and keep up the good content.
Any project that involves you and Dennis Taylor is going to be awesome! 👍
BTW I've loved seeing you shoot the breeze with Finnegan and Newburn.
These vids keep getting better and better, and I learned about proper placement of the fire nozzles. Thanks Tom!!!
Ya gotta love Tom... "Just Wear More Layers!" LMAO
So that’s why they haven’t been showing that wagon on Alex’s channel!!!! This is gonna be awesome
I totally hope so,!
@@erichuff3572 my exact thought about the nomad wagon
Having the auto fire system just makes good sense. If you go ablaze at 200 plus and cannot see you're busy trying to keep it straight and get it stopped and hoping your chutes don't burn. Not worrying that the fire system will self start is a huge benefit IMHO.
Thank you for posting this video the story behind the scenes is so good !!!
Michael you have the best bloke in the business asking about heavy cars . Tom Bailey's builds are absolutely fantastic. I always watch him. Can't wait to see the Caddie up and goin'.👍😤😚🤬
just a bunch of car guys doing car guy stuff😂😂 i love how the guys just talk about the memories and joy of drag racing and they just keep er going😂😂👏 thats the stuff you love to hear
Why not use hydraulic jacks built into the caddy like British touring cars of the 80s, aka ford 3 door cosworths . To help with servicing the car or take the rear wheels off
Kevin at KSR is putting “air jacks” on Cleetus’s ElCo Mullet
The car is a ton too heavy to start with. Those air jacks are quite heavy and eat space as well. And have very little travel.
A couple of external air jacks have more travel and cost less. Though then you need a compressor or as they do for built in air jacks a large air bottle. Not the thing to carry on Drag Week!
@@gullreefclub where ? Never seen them watched it all!
The grey matter that was burning and the laughs had during this video was awesome. The way builds should be. Mates having a laugh and sticking it to each other. If your not there you can't defend yourself (Michael Wayne Cotten). You fellas would fit into the Aussie car culture like a hand in a glove. Love the content.
That Caddy is OFF THE HOOK!! We can hardly wait to watch it bust a 1000 ft pass in the low 8's and tear up 200mph PLUS in the 1/2 mile! The car is built right to get that done.
You mean 1320ft. Lol
Thank you Tom for pushing out this great content with Finnegan. Big Hello from Finland and keep up the good work.
And that's why Cold Fire is an amazing thing, it doesn't leave a residue and it's just a concentrate mixed with water and put in any container and then pressurized with an air compressor.. So if it starts getting low on pressure you just add more. Tom you can always put in a little electric motor to turn an AC compressor and have it all as a contained unit in the truck that's quick disconnect from the battery and then you can pull it out when running to save weight and have it in on the street. You can also add toluene into the methanol to make it visible when it burns.
Let me guess, you are going to make a nitro car.
I love all these new raceweek builds I've been seeing!
When @26:03 Tom mentioned the master cylinder can be just in front of the seat, remember a few of the mid '50's GMC pickups had theirs in that location. Access was flip the floor mat back, remove a couple screws from the cover and service.
That thing is so gangster. Maybe place both of the turbos forward of the core support with a nice grill mounted intake set up to feed them fresh air and move the radiator into the trunk or under the trunk floor with a remote mounted meziere pump. Fuel cell in the trunk. Might make your build a touch easier and still allow for it to be done very nicely and convenient to work on. Could also hinge mount the radiator under the trunk floor for ease of working on the rear suspension. Just a thought. Love the build brother, following along as you go 🙌🏼
Restomod Air. Super small efficient A/C units! Look’em up!
Watching y’all discuss options is amazing
That Car is nothing short of Bad ASS! Those fire suit's are like wearing a Heavy Sleeping bag suit in the summer .
I have 14" willwoods with 6 piston calipers front, 4 piston rear on a 1969 Camaro. Bought all the stuff from willwood. No booster required if you get the right master cylinder. best stopping car ive ever owned
The sneak peek scene was epic.
You need to talk to Mike Patey [on y/t]. He is building a carbon fiber Piper Cub,all except the frame. Look him up.
All these car builders need to watch Mike Patey's scrappy build
Right on. Its great to see the creative process.
Nice that looks so sweet the shot from the drivers back quarter panel The stance and the look those big old meats
Dang, I've been eyeballing that 55 in the background of Alex's videos for a while now. That thing is Sick!!!!
Old caddy’s before A/C came with those type of fresh air vents you’re talking about, I saw them on one cruisin the coast
It was interesting to watch and listen to you guys discuss the placement of fire suppression components, turbos and plumbing.
Thanks Tom, this was an awesome video, AND the 'sneek peek',, haell yeah!! Funny thing, when I made my comment about other RMRW / DW builders considering their fire systems Dennis Taylor was one of them on my mind. Now we see you and he are talking, most likely about the 2021 events, too cool :)
I have certification and install fire systems in restaurants. A couple things: 1) those nozzles make nice, round divots in whatever appendage hits them, and 2) safety pin is great, but if you fail to notice that the fusible like (glass bowl) is broken when you pull the pin - the system will activate. I haven't seen your systems, but is there an electrical cut off when the system deploys? In restaurant systems, gas and electric are mechanically shut off when the system goes off (which leads to fun phone calls from people who are mad because nothing turns on in the morning - because the system went off at night to put out a fire - I install liquid systems, so you don't readily see they went off like powder would show).
Great video! Can't stand the suspense till next week!
It will be worth it!
I guess we know where the turbos are going now.... Totally digging the brain storming session throwing ideas at problems to see what sticks ....it's obvious you Sir are a pro at tossing darts instead of rocks. Great video!
Love the relaxed, shoot the shit feel here
Good call on having a fire system in the Caddie !!
You only get one shot at it 👍
While you're setting the system up in the car, try running some NO2 thru it, it'll show you exactly what you're hitting and or missing !!
I just started following you recently after watching you go out and Finnegan's boat I've seen you knew about you. I've been walking your older videos and catching up and by far very great enjoy listening to you talk about the car mechanics of it all.
Well, now we are excited. Guess it's time to reveal the "Secret Project". Great episode. Guys standing around talking cars. How could you go wrong?
Wow only the best for the ice cream man. Dennis Taylor is a race car genius.
Yes !!! nelson racing engines talked to tom's brother a while back really cool guys and they do amazing engine work
Class Acts making racing history right here.. Bravo!!
Tom I hope you really put some time into this RUclips thing!!! Your videos are freaking awesome! Not sure if your friends with lutz and fireball or Larson but maybe do interview or video you hanging out with these types of guys. Oh do a video of you servicing your hot rods
Another great video 👍👍👍
Is that a 55 Nomad?? Love your videos, awesome content. Looking forward to the new project..Keep it up please Tom.
Imagine being Finn and Tom’s neighbor?!?! ❤️❤️❤️
this is going to be an unforgettable week for aiden! i cant wait to go on a drag and drive next year once my car is together! probably Midwest drags since its in my neck of the woods!
I know that conversation well :o) *All we have to fit in there is the power steering pump, alternator, water pump, dry sump pump, main group2 hydraulic pump, spool valve, dry sump tank, and luckily the rad is in the back, but the 5 ton winch goes where that was, and it needs a bull bar you can snatch tow off :D Many an hour spent just staring at it and hanging bits in the hole with bungee cords .
Glad to see you helping ol Finnegan out. He's good people. How are you and the car doing Tom?
Amazing content on your own. But I love the videos with Finnegan. And now it looks like the Taylor’s too. Awesome !
I love the look of the coupe but if his intention was to fit people in the back seat for drag week then I would have started off with a sedan. I've been eyeballing affordable small Aussie style drag sedans like Mavericks to turn into cool Drag Week car's. I had a brown/ white 74 Grabber as my high school car in 97 when they were the furthest thing from cool so a clean four door Maverick with a boosted gen 2 coyote and 6r80 with a 4r200 hub running 8.50's sounds perfect.
With turbo's mounted up front near headlights the heat won't be going into the cab and firewall...shorter inlet, weight up front, headlight air inlet for cold induction, maintaining and servicing, it looks better..that's my vote...👍👍🔥🔥
What a wealth of information. Great video
Fabricate quick release pins for the rear coilovers would go a long way Finn... LOVE the Caddy 🔥🔥🔥
What you need is are custom turbos made for this car. Where the exhaust side is in the back area and a long shaft to the intake compressor side in the front of the car. Then you have less plumbing to take up space.
another awesome video looking forward to next weeks announcement
Been following this build, on his channel. nice to see it in the garage and ready to work on
He could also run dual radiators and the middle low mounted turbo as well
It's going to be epic when it's finished, it's epic now!
Right on that must be nice Finnegan having neighbors like that and I'm the same way hate to borrow anything and never do, and do that fact don't like loaning things out I used to but when you stuff gets broken every time comes back gets old
Hell yeah, collaboration with Dennis Taylor!
Just my experience of 20 plus years servicing heavy duty trucks, if you have the option to make the tranny tunnel removable go for it, you will not regret it.
Tom the ending was sick, looking forward to the revel
It will be worth it!
That is a sweet car! Good video! Keep up the good work :) Greetings from Sweden!
Thank you very much!
Love that caddy.. that's gunna be a badass drag week car.. still wont beat the camaro
Bailey and Finnegan in the same garage, what I would give to be a fly on that wall for a while!
yeah baby!
THIS IS GONNA BE EPIC!
Can't wait for the Nomad!🏁😁🦅😢🇺🇲🦅👍👍
I would put a valve in the exhaust so I could run just headers during the race and switch it back over to full exhaust for the road miles. You put a filter on the turbo, it might collapse or restrict the air flow so you will be unable to run the boost levels as high as you want/need too as well~!~ Talk to Cleetus about it had that problem once too.
filter is just for the road, most take it off at track or run a turbo guard screen
This is the content I needed.. just people.. not their personalities..
Look into Chill Out systems. All electric coolshirt style AC for race cars. Super light, and made to be switchable between cars.
I could listen to race car talk all day
Place the air box down from the hood with the air filter. What about a fuel cell with the hood latch from one side to the other and it would direct the air into the rad.
Thanks for your videos I have upgraded the fire system on our boat thanks to your videos on your car fire keep up the awesome content
Glad to help, stay safe!
First-time viewer and a new subscriber. This man is a damn scientist.
Man this is a cool video thanks, I just like the talk of the whole thing ideas 💡are circulating in the gord now
This car is going to be freaking sweet when it’s done even if it runs high 9s the looks alone make this think fucking awesome
Love the poster in the background "sh*tter was full"- cousin Eddie.
Gotta say, I'm liking this channel Tom.Just subscribed..
Have you tried 1211 Halon system with the release head attached to tank, similar system as boats use in their included systems, no mess clean agent.
Love the videos. Keep em coming
another great video really hope i get to see you at world cup this year
Where oh where to put the giant turbos in my badass caddie dragster. Poor Mike he's got some real 3rd world problems to deal with. 🤣😂🤣😂 Lucky bastard!
All that room and struggles with where to put them...
@@Crusty9r I know right! Lmao!
Talking about access to bolts holes thru the floors,, remember those can be avenues for FIRE.
Great stuff GODSPEED
So that's why Alex Taylor has been hiding that car on her channel
accidently shown a few times when she wasn't paying attention lol
I agree with mike,low mileage,less ware and tare . Plus less rust on it to start out on a huge project . I hate rust
When I do brake jobs, I always say... If the brakes don't stop it, something will.
@Jeff Lee what?
Great content Tom!!! Loving it
Finn has the BEST neighbors