Scream 4 (2011) KILL COUNT: RECOUNT
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It's really crazy that Sidney's half brother and cousin tried to kill her.
I mean as boring as Sid is character wise, yeah I’d wanna kill her if she was my relative too
Brings a whole new meaning to dysfunctional family
@@InsomniacWriter Very!
Thanksgiving at the Prescott's sucks.
Yeah, Maureen Prescott created ghostface for the first 3 movies.
Amazing to think about. It was almost like Sidneys moms past sins manifested into what would be her ghost.
Damn man, I love Dewey’s development throughout the series, he went from being the dorky but lovable cop in the first Scream to a person who has deep emotional bonds with the other survivors, and David Arquette just really sells it all, man. Big props to him.
You forgot the part where he fuckimf DIES
Agreed, as great as Neve Campbell and Courtney Cox are in these films, David Arquette was always up there as the series MVP for me.
Still can’t believe they killed him off the way they did though. It should’ve taken 2 ghostfaces to bring him down.
I think out of the main trio Sidney and Gale have more significant character arcs like you can see them have major changes in personalities. However seeing Dewey's 'downfall' in Scream 5 is actually heartbreaking, although I guess it is realistic for some people going through mid life crisis.
@@Tyway I edited the post because I did spoil his death and I didn’t, y’know, wanna spoil anything
Kirby actually answered the question about Michael Myers’ weapon wrong. She answers with a “butcher’s knife”, when Michael actually uses a chef’s knife.
Not the first wrong movie fact 😂
This is honestly my favorite sequel. It used to be 2, but this one is so dang rewatch-able. I adore it. Thanks for getting this out James and team!
Agreed over time Ive found it to be my favorite sequel
I am in the same boat! As a 00’s kid, this one coming out in high school was huge for me.
@@quinnaddison420 You were in high school in 2011 as a 2000's kid?
@@vcrazy_diamond i mean, you're basically a baby until 4, maybe he was born in 97 or something, so that would still make him a 00's kid
@@Lucas11061 you're technically a 90s kid no matter what year in the 90s you're born in
Kirby Reed should have been the final girl for this film. Her personality being geeky, witty and feisty but also deeply brave, resourceful and likeable is really unique as she fits into 3 character archetypes in the Scream series, Tatum - the feisty best friend, Randy - the quirky geek and Sidney - the final girl, making her truly unique. Her fate being left unknown for 11 whole years until confirmed alive in Scream 5 is quite legendary for a horror character or even for film characters in general. Can't wait to see her back in Scream 6!
Yess! Hopefully they don't make one of the biggest mistakes in the franchise by killing her in 6
I adored Kirby. I’m so excited to see her back.
She is just a walking toyboy cliché
@@JohannesVanDerStuyvebode not really.
@@rafaelsteffen9368 or by making her a killer.
I love how Jill’s motivation also works into the commentary on reboots; Jill’s trying to capitalize on Sidney’s life and legacy by fashioning herself as the new Sidney. But she didn’t earn that title, she just took the hard won survival and famous name of her cousin to literally make a shitty remake. And yes she got what she wanted but like the remakes of slashers, she ultimately left almost no impact and can’t hold a candle to the original.
Jill also was tired of hearing about her cousin every single day. And plus it seemed that she was annoyed when her mother/Kate always talked about Maureen and her scars, etc.
That’s deep
Gotta show mad respect to James for bringing attention to Red Eye. Among the most underrated movies ever
"That it would never happen again!" is one of the most badass movie lines of all time, too.
@@WynneL that part always gives me goosebumps
Absolutely. I personally think it goes off the rails in the third act but I still enjoy the Hell out of it.
I don't know why, but the scream that Sidney makes when Jill knees her in her stitches is one of the best screams I have ever heard. It really sounds like she was in immense pain and I cannot gush about that small detail enough.
I also cannot talk enough about how much better Scream 4 is, with all the deleted scenes spliced back in. They really do add to the film and make it more OG Scream feeling, especially since it means a little more time with characters before they die xD
"Clear!" Still gets me. Jill messing herself up is my favorite scene of the franchise. Brutal and ridiculous at the same time.
FOR REAL!
Yall workin so hard to get this one up! Thank you James & Dead Meat ❤️
Thats what she said
@@dawsonages9204he spent a lot of time getting this on RUclips without getting copyrighted 👍
@@dawsonages9204he made a short about it yesterday, watch it 👍
@@romanfrancis4133 haaaaaaa
@Dawson Ages wtf does " a full grown business" even mean
12:47 "Olivia's insides are on the outside" I remember that line from your scream 4 killcount and I really appreciate that you said that again
I’ve always loved how the franchise brought in so many people that worked together in other movies! Neve Campbell worked with Skeet Ulrich on The Craft, Tori Spelling who did fake Stab 2 worked with Marley Shelton on several Lifetime Movies together, and Courtney Cox being married to David Arquette! So cool!
Courtney and David shouldn’t count. They met on these movies and married because of it.
Don't forget that Sarah Michelle Galler (CiCi in scream 2) and Mathew Lillard were both in Scooby Doo
yes ! rory culkin and emma roberts had previously worked on a movie called lymelife together prior to scream 4 ^^
All Hollywood trash
Jill is by far my favorite Ghostface ever. She wanted to be an influencer before it was a thing and I was genuinely shocked that the “new Sydney” was a killer
Agreed, she was arguably the best Ghostface in the franchise. Her motive to become the New Sydney was completely original and just brilliant. She’s also the killer who comes closest to getting away with her scheme
Her motive is way ahead of its time and completely took the whole theater where i was by surprise when she revealed herself as the killer, the scene when she stabs and hurts himself to take the suspicion off her is pure Gold
I’m gonna be honest, the motive felt a little cheesy to me, but the execution was immaculate. Probably because Jill Roberts is an amazing actress. Also the sequence of her setting up the crime scene and getting swarmed by reporters was brilliant
@@data_expunged97 I thought her name was Emma... Am I tripping?
@@Hussemo honestly I have no idea, I’m bad with names and was too lazy to check google to make sure I’m right
Edit: thought about it and yeah you’re right, I got confused because the actress and the character have the same last name
Hearing how friendly everyone in this series is with each other is just so great.
yeah i just hope the fans don't kickstart the 5th film or anything...
25:32 this man James is afraid of thankskilling all the time like is turkey your worst enemy?
I would've enjoyed the cliffhanger ending and a revisit to that world with Sydney having no memory. SO glad you were finally able to get this one up.
Same, it would've been a better ending than the one we got imo
Kirby is genuinely one of the best additions to The Scream universe.
She's such a cool character
Kirby is like Randy and Sidney all matched together and i love this, can't wait for her return in Scream 6
YESSS HE FINALLY GOT IT UPLOADED! That must've been a pain! Thank you for all your work James! We really appreciate it!
Hola
Amazing video!
Fun fact: My old academic advisor at my university previously worked on _Scream 4_ as an art department coordinator. She told me about her time working on the sets in Michigan and she even gets to keep a _STAB_ DVD prop, which signed by the late Wes Craven and is now sitting in her office.
She also worked as a set dresser on _Misery_ and in visual effects on _Species_.
It’s beyond awesome to see this film have one less kill thanks to Kirby. So excited to see her back in 6 and to see Hayden coming out of retirement after the hard last decade she’s had
That didn’t age well
26:10 i swear kill count humor is top notch
26:17 RIP Ghostface
The outtakes are honestly wholesome as hell. I love sets that can be both professional and just friends messing with each other.
18:54 the caption of the kill is everything 😂
Some fun facts
1. Jill's room reveals her true nature her book shelf reveals the following books she is in possession of, despite acting innocuous about Stab and its popularity. The bibliography seen on her shelf include:
Zodiac by Robert Graysmith (1986)
College Terror by Gale Weathers (1998)
Ghostface Returns by Gale Weathers (2008)
Serial Killers with Deadly Intent, published by Igloo Books (2009)
In the final act, she wears a white and blue plaid shirt which reveals her true role in the film as the Remake Billy Loomis, as well as symbolizing her role as a chess master. This is similar to Richie Kirsch, who later wore a blue plaid shirt like Billy.
The literature seen in her English classroom conducted by Mr. Baker also hint towards her role.
2. Jill's jealousy was rooted in desiring to be her, whereas Roman's issue was about their shared mother's rejection, with Maureen rejecting her birth son and "choosing" Sidney, who would develop a celebrity victim reputation with adoring fans and a film franchise inspired by her life. This would have aggrieved Roman, as he technically sparked the chain of events to convince her mother's killer to do the job. Ultimately, both relatives have very similar motives, but subtle and important differences. As Roman's maternal first cousin, they act similar due to their neglect/abandonment issues related back to Maureen Prescott (for Roman, how Maureen rejected her birth son, and for Jill, how Maureen's sister failed to be a proper caretaker due to her grief and possible attention seeking issues from the fame related to her sister's infamous murder.
3.Kate is the second person to be killed by a relative her own daughter Jill Roberts later Jill would later be killed by Sidney. In an old script side she was a Prescott Neil's sister.
4. Jill is the first killer in the franchise who successfully killed another killer this is followed by Third Killer, Jamal Elliot and Beth
5. It has been speculated that Charlie did not want to kill Kirby, so he didn't stab her deeply enough to kill her. Charlie wanted Jill to think Kirby was dead so she wouldn't go back and finish the job. Charlie said "already taken care of", but left her to bleed out still moving. Until was revealed in the fifth film that Kirby survived from her stab wounds while giving an interview about her experience during the murders online.
6. No blood stains on Charlie/Ghostface moments after Olivia's brutal murder. Not even on his white mask, even though Olivia's entire bedroom is splattered with her blood. This is probably one of Scream 4's movie mistakes. However, although unlikely, Ghostface might have washed the blood off his face mask.
7. Kirby is Sidney true remake counterpart toward the end of the film, she seems to be based on Sidney herself. Examples of this are:
When she was about to go outside to investigate a noise, much like Sidney did earlier when she heard the sound of windchimes.
When she and Sidney locked themselves in her basement to hide from Ghostface. This is what Sidney did in the first movie when she locked herself in her bedroom when Ghostface attacked her at her house.
Kirby is the first character within the "new generation" of teens we are introduced to following the opening kill; a tradition utilized in the original when audiences were introduced to a then-adolescent Sidney Prescott after the sadistic murder of Casey Becker. This could be an indication of her status as the true "Sidney" character of the movie, as they both become sole teen survivors of their respective origin movies.
8. Charlie is based on Stu Macher, because he bares many similarities to him. Jill apparently seduced him into doing her bidding and, thinking that she liked him, he agreed to help her with her killing spree. Stu claimed in the first movie that he was peer-pressured into helping Billy.
9. Marnie last name is the same as Scream 2 victim Cici Cooper however it is unknown if they are related in some way.
10. Trevor initially appears similar to Billy Loomis, including sneaking into Jill's room to see her. Sidney herself notices this, and tells Jill that she reminds Sidney of herself at her age however, he ultimately serves as the remake of Neil Prescott. Trevor even wore clothes that resembled the clothes Neil was wearing in Scream while Jill ended up being the new version of Billy Loomis.
11. Jenny Randall and Marine are the remake counterparts to Casey and Steve
12. Robbie's character is generally a reference to both Randy Meeks and Kenny. Due to his cameraman operatic ways, he meets a similar, but more gruesome fate to Kenny.
13. RUclips star Shane Dawson auditioned for an unspecified role in Scream 4, but ultimately failed to get the part, it is rumored that the role of Robbie was the part he auditioned for. Had he gotten it he would have been first youtuber in Scream franchise but of course that honor goes to Dead Meats own James and Chelsea in the fifth film.
14. Judy is the first Scream sequel character in a starring role to return for another sequel. (Nancy O'Dell also cameos as herself in three sequels.) She is also the first in general, followed by minor character, Martha Meeks.
15. Judy backstory of being an old classmate of Sidney's is an homage to a previously unused script. The character of Angelina Tyler, who was originally planned to be the Second Killer of Scream 3, had the same backstory. These elements were re-used in the form of a Red Herring.
I ain’t reading allat💀🙏
Dude the amount of hidden details you found is amazing!!!
@@ameliacox1410 thank you lots of research and meeting actors at monsterpalooza/comic con over the years asking them for anymore info on the film and something about the characters we never knew. But mostly I go back and marathon the film's notice details nobody caught.
could you repeat that
@@Drift_-wk6kb repeat what?
I hold Scream 4 very close to my heart, it was my introduction to horror. I was 8 when I first watched it and scared beyond belief, but over time I began to enjoy horror. That's it
18:19 - Amazing face acting! I hope we see Kirby doing something similar in Scream 6.
The relationship between the cast throughout the entire trilogy is heartwarming and lovely!! Seeing them have fun thru production and just overall love one another is absolutely awesome. You’re the best Wes 🫶!!
I love the idea of James being so well versed in horror movies that they defeat ghostface with just a sheer show of knowledge.
We need to start appreciating James and his team. He worked so hard to get this upload after numerous edits and uploads.
Edit: As much as I am excited for the Scream 5 kill count, I still hoping for a Scream TV Series Kill Count One Day. The show is so underrated.
Yes pls🙏🙏🙏
@@bencearva8068 pp0
24:31 one of the greatest moments in horror history.
I hate how scream 4 has butter on the lens
“If you don’t play my game I’ll make sure they make another Thankskilling” by far the biggest & scariest threat James will ever receive
He nearly went as white as a ghost
Hayden Panettiere was insanely awesome in this film. I really hope she has a big role for the new one.
Honestly shes an amazing character
Such a joy to really see how much James and his team work hard to make a beautiful, fun, informative, and respectful kill count and podcasts and other things (LIKE THE INSANE HORROR AWARDS LIKE HOLY SHIT MAN) Great work! Thank you
Thank you so much!
One fatal flaw in this kill count. Jill was shot in the harr, not the heart.
Thanks James and the team for working hard to get this up! We appreciate you all!
26:05 bro just started naming all the most recent kill counts from werewolf by night to this one 💀
I grew up in Olivia’s house, the whole interior was redone, a huge wall removed from the middle to give it a straight shot to the back door
I gotta hive it to Jill, her commitment to make a convincing field of evidence is amazing.
According to Craven on the commentary, Jill being shot in the chest *was* meant to be ambiguous. They originally were going to have her be shot in the head, but Craven changed his mind because, in his own words: "You never know."
Omg what if Jill is the killer for Scream 6 lol with the return of Kirby
@@alonzokelly6539 Highly unlikely. Why do you all want old killers to come back so much?
@@DavidKen878 Did I say I wanted an old killer to come back? All I said was what if. Especially since the killer said we have never seen one like them, which would be a cool concept considering we have never had a return killer, who knows there prey
@@alonzokelly6539 So you think when Ghostface said "You've never seen one like me," that means one that's been in multiple movies? 😳
@David Ken I mean with Scream you never know. I think it's an interesting theory, especially if it was said that Jill may still be alive. The only reason I don't think it's true is because Sid won't be in this one. So I would wonder why they wouldn't be going after her, but who knows
24:49 I’m so disappointed you didn’t say “the haaaaa” 😂😂😂
Apparently Richie's father and siblings were smart enough to follow Sidney's advice on not messing with the original because in recreating Stab II they didn't include someone pretending to be a love interest in their scheme just as it was in Scream II, even though love interest are often the killers
25:35 - Bro, just hearing this list helps me to remember *how many episodes of pure massacre horror glory this channel has really done.* I know its the ending skit and all, but man, I am just in awe. And all so he doesn't have to cover another Thankskilling movie..
I and others speak for all subscribers when we say we appreciate how much time and effort you put into these videos! And we appreciate all you do to make sure these videos are even able to be uploaded! We love ya, James and Chelsea!🫶🏻☠️🥩
I COULDN'T AGREE MORE
Agreed
They are legends we love you guys ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
I've been watching James for years and he's made a largely positive impact on my life. It's so good having someone to sit down and watch on RUclips.
For Anthony Anderson, He was also a detective in Law and Order for quite a few years hence James sentence, "Hoping to bring some Law and Order to woods-" at 11:50.
It was also filmed in Livonia Michigan as well. The police station scenes were filmed in the old courthouse next door to where I worked at the senior center. Courtney Cox arquette even talked to a few of us. Set was literally within ten feet of our parking lot. Memory banked for sure
"Oh, Gale 😅 you're gonna get arrested one of these days." 🤣 I'M SCREAMING LOLOLOL
MY PERSONAL FAVORITE SCREAM!!!🩸🔪
Yep, favourite Scream sequel
I can't forget that I cleverly and correctly worked out who the Ghostface killers were when I first watched this movie 👍🏼
Yooooooooo Chris!
samee
I love how many subtle and non subtle references James makes in this kill Count.
I loved this one. Olivia was my best kill yet.
I love when James does the "Title Card" bit! Morbidminded and I squeeze the phrase into conversations often. I bought her the Dead Meat's Title Card Tshirt.
so glad james spent so much time and effort into making sure we could get this video out without any restrictions. its so nice to see that james and dead meat as a whole genuinely, well, cares! so nice to see such a big youtuber that appreciates their fans as much as they do!
Love you all! I know this took a lot of work to finally get uploaded. Keep hanging in there Dead Meat crew. We get it.
I'm one of the admins on the Scream Wiki and the Designer of that Stab 3: Hollywood Horror poster. Thanks for including it in the video!!
Jill is Billy
Charlie is Stu
Kirby is Randy
Trevor is Neil Prescott
Olivia is Tatum
Robbie is Kenny
Will always appreciate the effort the dead meat team puts in to make such great vids, whether it be the kill counts, recounts, podcasts, etc.
Dead Meat never disappoints. The Scream franchise has gotten much more familiarity among audiences, whether old or new. It's iconic in more ways than one.
I have a fairly stressful life right now but just need to let you know the joy i get from these videos when i get a little time to relax! Thanks for working so hard for us James, Chelsea and everyone involved
I got satisfaction to see that Kirby is not on the kill count😊
James puts way too much effort into this show. He tried so hard to get this episode up and him and his team work so hard on every project. Thank you for the hard work james we all appreciate it!
Crazy how long it took to get Scream 4 up when we’re all just waiting for Scream 5 😂 but very much appreciated. Thank you, all of Dead Meat!
15:17 when you're running from a uwu cat.
RIP wes Craven, a wonderful Director who gave the horror genre so much
I never comment on videos but you guys do so much positivity for all of us fans. You’re the sole reason Scream is my favorite all-time horror franchise. Don’t give up James and crew, we love y’all!
My little Tally Hall obsessed brain is hearing James talk about Ann Arbor and The Blind Pig and idk it’s just making my brain smile.
Thank you James and Chelsea for working so hard to get this one up ^^
17:58 James just casually calling him vanilla ice was the funniest thing ever
Wow. James timed this franchise to end exactly one week before the friday Scream VI premiers. Love it!
The writing team have been killing it with the to-the-numbers bits the last handful of months. I chuckled a bunch at this one. Thanks for the persistence in getting out this video 👍
My wife and I just finished Scream V. I saw it last week and told her we had to watch it.
She was so into it that we are currently watching the OG Scream.
Between viewings, I saw this drop and had to step outside watch it.
Can't wait for the Scream V Kill Count
This movie will always have a special place in my heart from being the first scream I saw in the cinema and during Annie's car jump scare someone got so scared they threw their popcorn in the air causing the whole cinema crowd to laugh during her death 🤣
Going back to re-watch the old Scream Kill Counts before watching the Recounts has been such a blast! This channel has grown so much since back then, the amount of work that's gone into these really shows and I can't wait for the Scream 5 Kill Count!
Not even copyright can stop James! Thanks for all your hard work.
Zoren’s skeleton head falling off was GOLD!!!!!
Took far longer than it should have to get that to work.
"you're Black , I'm gay we're so dead!" got me choking in my laughter
18:44 Even Robbie trying to plead with Ghostface 😂
@@marklynn5899and failed
Finally James made a Lords of Chaos reference
These recounts have been amazing, thank you James and everyone else at Dead Meat for all the hard work and effort!! It doesn’t go unappreciated :)
One of the first horror movies I saw in theatres, it will always have a special place in my heart.
I can’t with “And this door not in the mood to door”😂😂😭😭
Love your videos
I got my mom into horror movies cause of this channel, she used to never watch them with me when I was growing up and now she can't get enough thanks to James and team for these videos
I loved the Xbox achievement sound effect when James picked up the phone at the end. It was genuinely funny.
Bro you guys are killing it with the "To the numbers!" moments. They're too funny. 😂
10:04 damn dood that cameraman didnt even flinch or anything kinda badass
I swear that check the pulse joke had me in stitches that was a good one I give you respect for that one james 😂
We know this took a lot of work to put on RUclips James and we all appreciate the dedication very much. Thank you
That “good place” reference for Kristen Bell’s kill at 4:05 is one of the reasons I love James commentary. Man’s never misses an opportunity for a reference!
“Get out. Of my house”
Idk why that’s so funny
Looking forward to your amazing cameo on Scream (2022) for the next Dead Meat video, James!
Amazing work on ReCounts videos dude!
Thank you for working so hard to get this up!!! We love you all ❤️
Ik everyone is very grateful for how much the entire dead meat cast works to put out amazing content. Love you all
"a glass buh gawd! that woman has a family!"
my favourite 😂
These ''To the numbers'' skits have been fire lately
25:11 did he really use the Xbox notification sound effect 💀
He used a brief part of a Mario 3D World song at 4:20
@@drpepperdrowner they had fun editing this video 😅
The fact that both Patricia and David made such a splash in their own respective horror series is pretty damn cool.
Edited to add: Both with Wes Craven too!
i know her character wasn’t as big of a character, but alexis arquette was also in the chunky franchise, so i think it’s really cool the three of them were all in different horror series :)
@@paigemarto5248 Oh dang! I had no idea that was was their brother!! Even though his role in Bride was small he was a surprisingly complex horror character. He obviously wanted to be hardcore but he had too much of that pesky compassion for human life for Tiffany to ever actually commit to him.
R.I.P dude. You left a bigger mark on this world than most of us can dream of.
I like how Sid had to deal with both her half brother and neice.
Jill's her cousin, not niece
She also had to deal with her crazy ex Billy in the 1st movie and his crazy mother in the 2nd movie as well.
That bed scene was hilarious!! lol
Thanks for all the attempts for the fans around the world! We love you James!
I was a Scream fanatic as a kid, like 10-12 years old at the time. The trilogy DVD set lived in my original Xbox for awhile when that was released. I was fascinated by all of the BTS in the bonus features, I was full of random trivia and facts about the franchise. All of this being pre-RUclips, I'm just glad Dead Meat is a thing and still crushing all these years later. I remember watching the original Scream Kill Counts and have enjoyed these updated Recounts (and your thoughts) so much.
That cliffhanger and sequel to this movie sounded awesome, sucks we didn't get to see it. Would've loved to see more of Jill and Sidney taking her down