Eluktronics MAX 15 / Aftershock Vapor 15X (2022) Review
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- Опубликовано: 12 июл 2024
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Aftershock Vapor 15X / Eluktronics MAX 15 (2022) Review Timestamps:
0:00 Intro
0:19 Build Quality & Design
0:59 Size & Weight
1:24 MUX Switch
1:33 Specs
1:46 Camera & Microphones
2:02 Keyboard, Touchpad & RGB Lighting
2:32 Ports
3:51 Getting Inside & Internals
4:13 SSD & MicroSD Speed
4:36 Wi-Fi & Upgrade Options
4:52 Speakers & Latencymon
5:05 Battery Life
5:40 Thermals & Software Modes
7:20 Temperatures / Clock Speed / TDP
8:51 Game Performance in Different Modes
9:01 Cinebench CPU Performance (On & Off Battery)
10:03 Keyboard Temperatures
10:31 Fan Noise
11:02 Screen
12:18 Gaming Comparison - 1080p & 1440p
14:04 3DMark & Content Creation
14:55 BIOS
15:08 Linux Support
15:25 Pricing & Availability
16:11 Conclusion - Thin Laptop Worth It?
17:27 Intel or AMD CPU in 2022?
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1:33 Specs should be DDR5-4800, not 3200.
Moving to Australia rn just for this thin beauty
Waiting for legion 7i 2022 gaming review
i got the 2021 max 15 w ryzen 9 and 3080 but battery life is abig problem
and how do i upgrade the ssd
It's a cool machine but the fact that you can find other 3060 laptops that were released this year with the same power limit for $1400 makes this price a big no no for me
For everyone interested in this in the EU: Skikk (Dutch company) and PCSpecialist (UK) are selling this chassis under the name Loki 2 and Ionico, respectively.
Didn't know about Skikk. Cheers.
Also LaptopParts4Less based in Netherlands.
@@demistr7435 I found them, too, but didn't trust them. Their site looks sketchy... Are they legit?
@@antalpoti yes
Always came back Jarrod's, while researching what laptop would be right for me. Bloody Oath! Awesome work 👍
I love your work Jarrod. One stop shop for reviews.
Fan from Africa...good video
Thanks!
Thanks for the great review Jarrod! I've always loved the tongfeng chasis and how much peformance is crammed within them too bad i've had really bad experiences with boutique brands (especially Aftershock) so i'm most likely never going a laptop like the vapor 15
What was your experience? I've been considering the Vapour
I’ve got this beast but with an i9 12900H and RTX 3070 Ti absolutely monster of a laptop absolutely love it 😁
Jarrod, you have to do a full review of the water cooled variants!
Please do more aftershock laptops as im very interested in seeing how well they performed. Thanks Jarrod
Thank you for reviewing "another" brand of good gaming laptop.
Feel refreshing.
nice shirt bro!
Appreciate your editing skill, it's difficult to add that much content 🔥🔥
Even if i dont have money to buy mid range or high end lap top i still watch all of your videos. The best reviewer of all others i know. Keep up jarrod hats down for your work :D
Nice Review Jarrod!
Do you have a list on which gaming laptops have great battery life?
I do! jarrods.tech/list-of-laptop-battery-life/
Nice. I'll look for a 17 inch version of this machine. Definitely a good portable-ish powerhouse. I hope the 17 inch has bigger battery too
Been waiting for this review. Hope for AMD Ryzen soon
Hey Jarrod, bit of a longshot maybe, but I have the exact same laptop chasis (eluktronics MAX 15, 2021) albeit with a Ryzen 9 5900HX and RTX 3080. After using it a lot and playing around with the power settings, I found that the laptop can sustain 30/35W on the cpu and 135W on the GPU without throttling.
You mentioned that the laptop in this video has liquid metal applied to the CPU. Do you by any chance know if liquid metal is used in the 2021 AMD MAX-15 version of the laptop? For the life of me, I can't find that information online, and I don't want to remove the cooler just to find out.
Jarrod can you please make a laptop brands tier list 😊
I have been using Vapor 17X 2021 version for over half a year, and I do not know you can set Whispermode from the Control Centre, now I don't have to switch on Whispermode everytime! Good to know, thanks!
Hi jared😍 , you have helped me in selecting the laptop Asus A15 just clear one more doubt please🙏
, Can you connect to tv or External monitor and show gameplay. ??
That would be really helpful.
(We have new tv , i want to buy a laptop which i can connect and play )
g sync , v sync ??
I would want a 16:10 AMD version of this with type C charging to consider buying. I do think potentially the next gen should bring better CPU and GPU power efficiency (assuming both are on 4nm). The type C is a huge miss given one would expect thinner and lighter machines to be geared towards travel.
It's been 2 full hours. Answer him now J-Rod! Lol
Standard Type-C only goes to 100W with some manufacturer's doing 130W. The new Type C standard that goes to 240W is still very new and will probably take another year or 2 to hit devices. Limiting devices to Type-C is how the Alienware X14 ended up being so much worse than the Blade 14. Even then, laptops pretty regularly have to bump up to 330W and will have to keep using the old connectors.
@@michaelspraggins5246 Having usb c charging and regular charging is ideal. No one wants usb-c charging to replace the regular charger right now.
@@ACE112ACE112 I absolutely want USB-C charging to replace standard chargers, so there's at least one person. I would much rather carry 1 240w~ brick with 2-3 outputs than multiple bricks. Secondary PD charging is a stop-gap at best.
@@michaelspraggins5246 USB-C charging doesn't have enough power right now for gaming laptops. Maybe one day USB-C charging will be viable.
When do you think you will get hold of the new Lenovo legion 5 from 2022? I'm only seeing youtube reviews for the 5i pro. Thank you!
No ETA, Lenovo didn't reply to me when I asked a few weeks ago.
@@JarrodsTech gotcha I just saw it on the MicroCenter website a week ago so it may still be really new? Idk but thank you for the lightning fast response.
The fact that we havent seen the new legion 5 is so frustrating
Their battery life claims are pretty crazy on the 6800h machines, would like to see it validated by an external reviewer before I blindly trust it, surprised they haven't sent it out tbh, in my country at least seems their stock of the legion 5 is higher than 5i
Same with me guys im waiting for the legion 5 review too count me in
Eluktronics, brand of my dreams! Definitely looking at this or the legion 5 in my next machine
You are so right about the lack of Type-C charging being a missed opportunity. I’ve used this capability so much with my laptops that I won’t buy another without it.
It's excellent for content creators and students but not for gamers. USB-c doesn't have enough current to let you game with full performance.
@@v5k456jh3 are you gaming in class? At the coffee shop? During meetings? You can leave the big brick at home and bring a compact GaN charger for the go - it’s the best of both worlds to support USB-C charging and then a dedicated power connector if necessary.
@@dr_brewer My point still stands - it's great for everything except gaming.
@@v5k456jh3 Your point is pointless because USB-C charging has absolutely nothing to do with gaming.
@@lars2894 Gaming is a major application for laptops today whether you like it or not
Really nice laptop
I have a previous Eluktronics laptop with an AMD CPU and it has been pretty decent. But this year I went with Intel and got an Asus Scar 17 this time.
Hey Jarrod, I have a question about legion laptops, are you going to compare the Lenovo Legion 5 Pro Gen 7 (AMD R7 6800H + RTX 3070 Ti) and the Legion 5i Pro Gen 7 (Intel i7 12700H + RTX 3070 Ti)? Also today I found out that Illegear is the XMG / Eluktronics of Malaysia (Illegear Onyx G is literally the XMG Neo 15), but I can't really confirm if it has all the XMG laptops, and I just want to let you and everyone else (in Malaysia) know incase they want to buy XMG Neo 15, etc.
He compared the AMD vs Intel with the same GPU and everything else in a video three days ago using the XMG Neo 15. I would assume the differences would be similar if comparing AMD vs Intel using the L5P.
Jarrod is it possible for you to review the Eluktronics Prometheus XVII? I am thinking of getting one but I'm going to have to fork out about $2000+ for it. Would like your opinion on whether its worth it right now compared to other laptops with similar specs but cost less like the MSI GP66.
Are you going to make a review on the asus duo 16?
Hey Jarrod, would you please review and compare Alienware M17 R5 AMD Advantage with Last year's Rog Strix G15 AMD Advantage???
Pleasseeeeeeeeee
Need review of new Fusion 15 to!
Are you planning to review the msi ge67hx?
Yes!
Hey, Jarrod
What about Tuf Dash F15 2022 review? And the Legion Slim 7i 2022 review?
You had been teasing about 'em.
I haven't received either, so nothing to release yet.
Amazing laptop. I am considering the 17 inch version. it would be great if you review 17 inch version too 😀
The only real difference between this version and the 17 inch version will be lower temps with the bigger chassis.
Does the fan control on this laptop actually work? Or is it like the nitro sense app which only allows you to increase fan speed?
hi can you plz review this year's MSI creator z16p and find out how much this creator laptop is good for gaming?
This is also sold by PCSpecialist in the UK as the 15.6 Ionico.
Do you have any idea when the new legion 7 will be coming out I am getting tired of waiting for it would it be better to just buy a new laptop
I’m torn between the ROG strix scar SE and the Ge76 raider, in terms of cooling and longevity, which one should I get?
when do you think you'll be able to do a nitro 5 2022 review?
14:30 how's the Lenovo legion always at the top of the list compared to similar specs and sometimes slightly better specs??
I am seeing a lot of techtubers saying just "Wi-Fi 6" on lots of things. I know it is a fault on the standard side but Wi-Fi 6 and 6e are two different things and should be pointed out when describing. I think i saw a 6e mark on the notebook chassis.
Eluktronics and XMG are the best non mainstream gaming laptops manifacturers, I really hope they exapand more in countries like Italy etc, would really appreciate it
Agreed, the Tongfang chassis is pretty good
Wrong. they are not manufacturers...they are resellers. The company that actually design and make the machine is Tongfang.
hey, you can order XMG in all of the EU, incl Italy
Companies like Clevo and Tongfang make good designs that lots of smaller companies customize and rebadge. The trick is to figure out which ODM design you like, then find out which companies are selling it in your market.
Provided both XMG and PCSpecialsit (both Tongfang resellers) do sell to Italy (despite Brexit it's actually the same even for UK PCspecialist), there are some more third party resellers in Italy too, like Raiontech. They basically order from PCSpecialist and sell to you, offering warranty and services directly from Italy, if you really desire that type of things.
I really would like to see you test ram configuration on ddr5. Like the video you did on ddr4. It would really help my deside on which laptop i buy
There aren't enough DDR5 options yet to make it worthwhile.
Hello Jarrod, i`d like buy a memory 2Rx8, do you recommends anything?
Which laptop is best for programming windows desktop apps and using high cpu/ram visual studio etc.
would be a good laptop for me but ever since Legion lineup got type c charging I lost interest in Eluctronics products, which, for some reason, still don't have it.
Give it a bigger battery, type c charging and an AMD CPU and it would be a fantastic machine!
Will you review the HP Omen 17 2022? I’ve seen its 3070 ti model for 1899 at Micro center and I’m not sure whether its a good deal or not compared to the tradeoffs
Unfortunately, HP changed their review system recently and there are issues getting them. I'm working with them to see what we can do so that I can get HP devices again.
@@JarrodsTech thank you so much for informing me of that. your reviews are the best in youtube and i didnt feel safe buying something without one.
edit: a common complain with this laptop is the hinge. something to test is hinge movement when typing.
I think that really good game for testing cpus is "squad"...maybe it's not that popular as other games but it really shows the performance difference between cpus...especially single core performance
What's the Tongfang chassis model number for this?
Jarrod will you be doing an omen16 (2022) review any time soon 🥺?
Not sure when. having some issues with HPs new system for getting review units. Hopefully though
Is that the same XMG Fusion 15 in Germany? Is it worth buying?
Please also review the acer predator Helios 300 (2022) (i7 12700H + RTX 3070)
Hi Jarrod I'm trying to buy a gaming laptop in Australia but really confused. Plz suggest me a good laptop around 2500 for college and gaming
Excellent review. I have an Eluktronics RP-15 and for some reason some keys just stopped working. Laptop is fast but not happy with durability but I don't trust eluktronics longevity keyboard-wise and their support response times leave little to be desired. I was told purchase a new keypad on my bill because warranty has apparently expired. The keypads letters also fading.
1:35 dont understand ddr5 is Available at 3200mhz probably a typo is it 4800mhz plz answer
Good pick up! Yup, that's a mistake. Should be 4800.
In Malaysia you can get this in the form of Illegear's Onyx Pro, just ordered one with RTX3070 and will be getting within a couple weeks
Please take a look at the new mech 17
crazy all custome stores have the same Case modell xD
Jarrod, I gotta say man, almost every question I have regarding laptops, google leads me to you lol
15:08 - 15:25 My guess is the reason for the erratic keyboard RGB lighting and the inability to change its brightness is that the Linux kernel in use in Ubuntu 22.04 didn't have support for that part. Which is a shame because that could be a distraction for users. While I'm betting that's fixed by now with a more recent kernel, the fact that every thing else worked in a live USB environment is kind of disappointing...
Not having ucb c charging in new laptops is so dumb considering almost everything is ucb c now, just having the option to charge it with a phones charger is super convenient
I heard the power level was over 9000!!!!
Should we expect a mag version?
please review the 17 version of this, vapor 17x
Ryzen 7 5800H + 3070 (100 watt) vs i7 12700H + 3060 (115 watt) , which is better choice to run unreal engine 5 for the new lighting features and nanites ???
Hey jarrod, whats the most expensive piece of tech you have dropped?
I think almost all tech reviewers have some funny tecch drop story
For a thin and light laptop, I am impressed with cooling
Also, software is not bad too.
But they need to improve sound.
this, and the IO too, these kind of thin and Light needs atleast 1 full spec Thunderbolt 4, especially for such a capable machine in terms of specs.
@@protato911 but it does have Thunderbolt port at the rear?
@@protato911 It had a thindebolt 4 port
@@ACE112ACE112 yeah but the thunderbolt 4 is not full spec, you can't charge from it or with it and I don't think it carry USB data.
How are u so good at this, I just considered buying lol
To anyone watching this, unrelated question to this video. My Legion 5 5800H/RTX3070 comes in tomorrow and I want to get a cooling pad, however since i'm bringing it to work as well I don't want a massive pad, it has to be somewhat compact but something that does a good job. I had my eyes on Klim, Cooler Master and Thermaltake (i'd like a respectable company their product) but i'm not sure on which one to go for... anyone has some good recommendations?
Specs of this machine , is it running on DDR5 or DDR4 ? I'm pretty confused as it is written 16GB DDR5-3200 in 1:34 . So it is running DDR4 since there is no DDR5 at 3200 ?
It's ddr5.
Does it matter if it's running at 3200 it's gonna have the same timing anyway?
@@wellidk6071 There is a noticeable difference of course. DDR5 has twice the bank groups of DDR4 . That alone effectively doubles the memory access availability regardless of clocks and timing.
@@fleurdewin7958 I educated myself and ur right.
3200 is a mistake, added it to the pinned comment. It's DDR5
Great review, Jarrod. I have a small question. Is there any difference between these brands and PCspecialist laptops in the UK? I know they all have tongfeng chassis.
My Dell G5 is five years old now. I'm waiting for USB-C charging gaming laptop before I change. I hope Asus or Razer will bring USB-C charging to their 14" gaming laptops.
Any plans to review any XMG laptops e.g. XMG Apex 15/17?
XMG Neo 17 soon.
Thanks man. Love your content and keep up the good work!
i just bout dell g15 5511 and fps is locked in all games at 120. i have tried everything. is there any fix for this?
When can we see more of the legion 7 2022?
Not sure yet, still waiting on review model to test with.
would asus tuf dash 15 be better or asus tuf A17?
Any Idea if HP omen 17 ( 2022 ) w RTX 3070 ti is worth it cause specs look amazing TGP 150 watt 3 ms response time 2k monitor 165hz ...... And it's the cheapest 3070Ti laptop available
Hey Looking for a laptop for my college kido. min 15" screen-17" is great. budget is 1500$ let me know what you would recommend. not a hardcore gamer.
Please review Dell G15 5525, 3070ti, ryzen 7 6800h, 165Hz. I think you'll be blown away for price and performance.
Can get one in South Africa for 26,999 ZAR = 1603 USD
laptop probably biggest challenge is with thermals
especially during heatwaves where lets say EU and eastern europe dont have infrastructure that designed to battle the heatwave instead its designed to handle winter
so my discontinued gaming laptop during winter time gonna have great time during winter season but can reach up to 84C while indoors being 29C even during night time
so before you say that we complain about extreme heat we have several reasons to we dont have AC since its a luxury only few can afford and passive cooling depends if your apartment has air circulation and some apartments all windows faces the sun all day
is QHD worth it on 15,6" / 16"?
I've got the max 15 with an rtx 2070 and 32gb of ddr4 for 700 brand new
What's good....rtx 3050ti 95W(legion 5) or rtx 3060 85W(nitro 5)
what are your thoughts on dell g15 (2022)? it has finally launched in India so i just wanted to know your thoughts on it.
Should have a review coming up soon. You can see some of my thoughts on the recent Q&A video
@@JarrodsTech thanks man!! I'll check it out. whenever there's some kind of confusion regarding laptops i just end up coming to your channel and you really do help a lot. Thanks a lot!!
Can anyone tell me what is laptop model is called in UK?
I dunno if this is the best laptop to buy in aus or it is better to buy off a big company's brand.
This is Avell A72 HYB in Brazil
gpu should not be a ti version?
FInally a worthy oponent for MSI delta 15 in screen wobbling.
Do you think the 17 inch version with the 3070 ti would be better for gaming performance and battery?
Does it have a larger battery? If so maybe, might have more cooling capacity, hard to say without trying it.
@@JarrodsTech amazon and eluktronics says it has a 91Whr battery
Differences quote big. In thermal throttle, cost, less battery and more heat. U get marginal performance boost. 👏
How is noone talking about the fact that thafs the same chasis/body as the Lenovo Legion 5??
Please Test Gigabyte G5 KD, with rtx 3060 and Intel 11400h !!!
It's a bit of shame that whenever you go for TongFang Magnesium Alloy chassis the battery capacity gets reduced drastically. So you'll always have to choose between a sturdier chassis or a better battery capacity...
No? The 17" Option of this Tongfang Series has a 92Wh battery?
Only the very lightweight 15-16" models do have smaller ones.
Where could this be found in Europe? XMG? What model?
Skikk (Dutch) and PcSpecialist (UK), Loki 2 and Ionico is the model name, respectively.
This laptop could use some water cooling goodness
I read a lot of reviews on last year's mech 15 and people have a lot of complaints with the keyboard layout ( arrow keys squeezed into the keyboard rectangle, awkwardly shaped shift key etc)
Many people said a couple months down the line they face the double key press issue (pressing a key once makes it register twice).
What are your comments on this issue in 2022 models?
I've had this problem with another Tongfang model that has caused me to steer clear of the company. I'm not sure how widespread the problem is, but without a pricing advantage, I don't see a need to consider them over the big players.
razer blade killer?
Wht ur recommend for 1000$ gaming laptop
USD? Something with RTX 3060 graphics, the Acer Helios 300 12th gen is on sale for $999 at bestbuy right now which is a steal.