The Return of the Rossi RP 63
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- Опубликовано: 17 май 2024
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Yeah... Thanks for the honest review... I'll pass on that one.
Exactly the story that needed to be told. Was seriously considering picking one up. Now I’m not so serious anymore. Reactive customer service is important. When one feels they are being put on the back burner it’s telling of how a company operates. Not a good look. 🙁
Yes I agree. I have been wanting a 605 but gun sam had a nightmare time with his not working.
My brother's LCR had an internal part break and Ruger shipped him a label and he got it back within a week. Ruger revolvers might cost more but the customer support is worth it.
@@Moss500. I'm pretty sure his 605 has been solid, he has routinely complained of his 856 having issues and returned from Taurus warranty still failing the same way.
Boa noite aqui do Brasil meu amigo americano. A Taurus aqui no Brasil tem um atendimento parecido com o que lhe deram, é triste isso. Infelizmente a Rossi depois de comprada pela Taurus,teve uma diferença enorme entre suas armas,revólveres e carabinas , feitas nos anos 90, essas eram dignas , primorosas no acabamento e eram excelentes armas. Tenho um que comprei em 1993, até hoje com poucos sinais de uso, e eu utilizava diariamente. Obrigado pela atualização da compra. Deus abençoe o Sr e sua família. Deus abençoe as Américas 🇧🇷🤝🇺🇲
taurus compro os revolveres do rossi pero nao suas carbinas, nao?
@@fbweaver63 as carabinas também. No Brasil a Rossi ficou com uma fábrica de Airsoft.
@@marciocumpiancumpian2075 obrigado
Ì have never owned a Rossi. Stories of their ups and downs over the years scared me away. Glad you finally got it worked out.
I had a similar issue back in 2021 with a Taurus 22lr version of the 856. The gun had an issue (can't really say what happened or why because the pistol wasn't in my possession when it broke down). I sent it in for warranty repair and literally waited 6 months without any word from them before I finally got in touch and asked what was going on. The person on the phone was nice but they finally got back with me and said the part to replace in the gun wasn't available and they'd wait another week to see if one would be and then they'd send me a replacement gun, which they did.
When I finally got it I took it to the range to make sure it worked then sold it off. In that same time frame I had a broken Ruger I bought off a friend that I sent off for warranty repair I even told them I wasn't the original owner. I had a shipping label that same day after the phone call, had it sent off on a Friday, and got it back to my home on the following Friday. I paid nothing. To be fair I didn't pay anything outside of a background check fee for the Taurus but I also had to wait 6 months. I'll stick with my Rugers. Glad you followed up on this, because I remember you mentioning it, just didn't realize it was back in last year. How the time flies, take care man and enjoy the warm weather!
Thanks for the input and thanks for the well wishes.
Thank you for the honest review.
Charter arms has built a 3 inch Polished stainless steel 357 revolver, and it has a very smooth trigger. You might want to check that 1 out, but it is a lite gun for its size. Thanks for the update
Charter Arms is the best revolver I've ever used.
I have an old Taurus 65 made in the late 70's that's been a great gun, I also had a 32 h&r magnum snubnose made by Taurus that broke on me, I sent it back and they couldn't fix it so they gave me a credit and told me to pick what I wanted off their website so I picked another 65 all black and Taurus paid the shipping and so far the newer production 65 shoots great, it's not like one of my Smiths or Rugers but it runs just fine, makes a good truck gun for me.
HAD SEVERAL NEWER TAURUS REVOLVERS -- NO ISSUES OTHER THAN CRAP TRIGGERS -- GUNSMITH DOWN THE ROAD DID TRIGGER JOBS ON 2 OF THEM & THEY RUN FINE NOW -- NO REAL COMPLAINTS - WORTH IT TO ME AS I REFUSE TO PAY THE RIDICULOUS PRICES FOR SOME OF THE OTHERS -- THEY GO BANG EVERY TIME - ALL I CARE ABOUT
Thanks for the update Greg. I have three Rossi R92's in three lengths and three calibers and all blued. I like them all and other than replacing the flip safety and mag followers on all three, they have been great. I think I'll stick with Taurus revolvers from Braztech. I've got a couple and both are good.
I've had good luck for the most part with the Taurus all steel snubs and revolvers and truth be known I shoot better with them than other revolver designs.
Thanks for this! I already had a slow, tedious experience with Taurus for a Heritage revolver, I guess my experience was the norm and not the exception.
Which is a shame, I really liked the looks of these, but I guess you get what you pay for.
I'm going to give Charter Arms a chance instead. From what I've heard, you might get a lemon, but their customer service is exemplary.
Thanks for sharing the rest of the story about the Rossi, makes me want to do more research on Rossi before a purchase
As a redheaded stepchild, I approve this message 😂 new sub, thanks for the info. Good content.
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I’m sorry about the lack of service hassle. Truly appreciate the honest review!
Thanks Tom. It could have been worse. Surprisingly, S&W customer service can be pretty sorry sometimes, but I have to say RIA customer support has always been great to me.
@@LionquestFitness Good to know! I sent my M206 back to RIA and they were fantastic!
Thanks for the honest review. I’ve been thinking about getting one. Probably not now. I have an older early 90’s Rossi that has been good. I too have the R92 carbine. Yes, I’ve done some work on that gun but finally got it where it needs to be. I actually really enjoy it now.
Thanks for the honest review, own several older Rossi's made in the mid to late 1990's and have been wanting to purchase an RP63. Will pass on it now. Thanks for the review.
I was excited about the re-introduction of the Rossi revolvers, but I wouldn't recommend them at this point.
👍 Good morning Greg. All good stuff to know. I’m sure this review has or will help many shooters going forward.
"When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” Thomas Sowell
I tried to be balanced. It was an interesting experience.
Thanks for the review. Was on the fence about getting one, not after this review.
I don't blame you.
Thanks for the honest review Sir! I enjoy hearing about any new production revolvers. But I'll definitely stick with Smith and Wesson and the occasional Ruger. Btw, Smitty's BBQ should be next on your list. Trust me friend!
We'll check Smitty's out David!
Great review.
I won't mention any names but there's a few you tubers out there that either get hand selected guns for their reviews or they are editing out the flaws. Thank you for your honest video.
Dan the Wolfman, Dan the Firearms Guy, and Buffalo Outdoors liked the gun. However Dan Theodore had his Smithed, and Buffalo had the six inch version. I correspond with those gents and trust their judgement. On this gun they must have hit cherries whereas I got the Lemon. 🥺
Thanks for another comprehensive gun review Greg & I wouldn’t blame you for getting rid of the Rossi. My department restricted us to S&W or Colt revolvers for off-duty so I’ve never owned anything else. Stay safe . . . K
I believe Taurus is a redheaded stepchild of Taurus. I've sent plenty of guns back to them over the past 20 years. I used to think they operated inefficiently in Florida, but ever since relocating to Bainbridge, GA, they've developed a serious case of the slows. My family has its root in that town and I grew up less than 25 miles away, so imagine my puzzlement when I first learned of their brilliant decision. We're not talking about people with a New York minute approach to life or a Silicon Valley brain trust, but you've probably figured this out by now.
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Thanks for sharing Greg. As the previous commenter said. I'll pass - I have a 3" King Cobra anyway. Taurus CS was good to me sending out a Model 942 to develop 8-shot 22LR speedloaders. So from my personal experience, I have no negatives to report. But I've never sent in a gun under warranty. I own three 856 revolvers with Gallaway spring kits that work flawlessly and shot the tar out of Taurus's Beretta 92 clone back in the day.
Good choice on the Cobra!
Enjoy your videos. I have 2 Taurus 856 revolvers with smooth triggers and a Rossi rp63. Trigger is stiffer but God. No problems with it. I filed edges of its trigger for better fit w/o sharp edges.
The jury is still out on keeping it or not. Thanks for your input.
Great review Greg. This is what the gun community needs to hear. The QC issues with these South American revolvers have been circulating for many years now. One would think that inspectors would make certain that a more thorough job would be done to uphold the company name. But, alas pride of workmanship appears to not matter to the company president or board of directors....and until they themselves feel the backlash, most likely nothing will change. Heads should roll. As my late dad would say: when you reward poor outcomes, you get even more poor outcomes. This is a real shame, because, like in the old West, a good revolver and rifle combo can still carry a man a long ways in this world. Sad that those offering said combo, don't respect themselves enough to do it right.
Unfortunately QC is at a low in the firearms world with many brands.
I would agree. Sad that Taurus' board of directors would not fire a company president that would look the other way whilst the product's image is being openly tarnished. Very short-sighted lack of oversight.
Thanks for the video Keep them coming
Yeah. I've had customer service with Heritage, too, since they came under the Taurus umbrella, enough to avoid buying any new firearms from ANY of the manufacturers under their corporate umbrella.
New Colt Viper, Diamondback SDR, Kimber K6S DASA alternatives look promising, even though these are as much as double + the price but at least are not so problematic. Thanks for sharing the ordeal.
I'm hopeful I will get an SDR, happy w my TWO Rp63s
Your “ word on the street “ matches everything I have heard about Rossi. The rifles are actually a rifle kit for you to finish detailing.
The revolvers don’t have a lifetime warranty. So you better learn how to gun smith them. Sadly you get what you pay for with Rossi.
They may have committed all their production to a contract. Then when they looked at the ones for service they realized they were all like yours. So they had to wait.
I have three Taurus, 2 856, one 85. All good guns. Any new purchases I will probably stay with SW or Ruger. Have a safe week buddy.
You do the same Dano!
Thank you
Finally got it after all that time. Appreciate the detailed review!
Thanks for watching Santee!
When I have trouble with a company such as that, I contact my states District Attorney, They probably have a web site set up for situations like that. Just keep meticulous records of times of contact, dates, how long I was on hold, who I spoke to, what was promised, etc. They tend to take correspondence from the DA a little more serious. I've had to do it twice and both times had great success. One time the company I had trouble with went out of their way to keep in contact with me. That's what the DA is there for.
just bought a rossi model 720 44 special the day the Brady came in affect I'm thinking around 30 years ago. it came slick action ,extremely accurate, chssp to reload. my 40 year old daughter liked it so much I gave it to her for a present this past Christmas. my cronygraphed loads is 180 grain xtp 1050 fps . buffalo bore sells the same load 1050_ 1100 fps . I have reloaded it all the way to 300gr in testing. it's the cream of the crop .of course her ammunition don't cost her anything or her husband's 9mm either. as far as Taurus firearms in my collection the pistols and revolvers work flawlessly. the rossi brawler 45colt/ 410single shot I recently bought is flawless plus with the help of o rings from harbor freight I also shoot 45acp flawlessly. that's a sweet deal being able to shoot 3 calibers in the same gun. the factory didn't say in the owners manual to do or not to do and I don't recommend anyone shoot 45acp in the rossi brawler without calling the factory and speak to a technician about the higher chamber pressure from the 45acp. standard 45colt is 15000 psi and 45acp 15000 to up around 20,000 psi. papa wishing you well. 😊
Good advice.
Thanks for giving us the low down on your experience.
Thanks for the video.
Very good update. I do not own a Rossi of any kind and, now have no desire to. You 'da man Greg!
Thanks for the update. That sucks you had to have so much follow up.
It was an interesting experience. I've had similar interactions with both S&W and RIA and I have to say RIA has been the best so far.
I can feel your frustration about quality control and customer service lately. It's horrible. The last company I thought I would get a lemon from was Glock. I recently bought a Glock model 28, what a disappointment it was. At the range I fired 32 rounds and had 29 stovepipes. The gun was so bad that Glick refuses to repair the model 28. They replaced it with a model 48. I refuse to buy new S&Ws, their quality control has gone down the drain. I had a Ruger SP101 that the cylinder locked up on and 10/22 that jamnwd with everything I put through it. When I read the work order on the 10/22 I had to ask how did the gun ever leave the factory the way it did. I'm at a point I refuse to buy anymore guns and definitely keep every one that I have, because I know I can depend on them.
It is kind of a double edged sword. I collect older S&W revolvers because they work, but then shy away from carrying them because they are collectors items. But as far as quality control across the board, I totally agree.
People knock s&w but they have been top notch in my experience. I think we do get what we pay for buying an american made, brand with longer service history
Thank you very much for this video. I am sorry to learn that Rossi revolvers have quality problems and that their customers service have problems too.
By the way, I noticed that my own R92 shoots too high and to the right at 25 meters, while shots are well centered at 10. The loading gate could also be larger, which would make reloading faster. But is is a nice carbine and it is fun for unformal shooting.
And that's how I look at. Most guns you can work with.
@@LionquestFitness I understand. Thank you for your answer
Wow, a lot of drama from them. This is a good heads up. I've always had good experience with Taurus warranty stuff. I had a 605 that just wasn't right, I sent it in and very quickly they called me and said that the frame is "out of spec" ; they offered me a full refund or replacement. I took the replacement. "out of spec" must be a go to.
LOL - default setting to "we don't know."
@@LionquestFitness lol
I kept my Taurus 627 tracker loaded ready to go in the top shelf of my gun safe for a year. I shot it a lot and cleaned it throughout the 6-7 years I owned it. Then one day I said "let me see what would happen if a rabid dog or something wandered up" so I took it out to the back yard and fired two shots and the gun locked up on me. First time I had any trouble with it. Sadly that little experiment made me lose faith in Taurus products. Pretending I needed it and having it crap out like that was a massive blow to the confidence I had with it. Slowly I'm becoming more and more of an auto-loader guy.
That's definitely an oucher.
Last year I picked up a Rossi RM66 4" and a 6" to see if the new guns had better triggers than their predecessors. No, they were and remain just as you describe them, heavy before the break. It's like shooting a typical 22 revolver, except there is no need for such a heavy DA pull in a centerfire handgun. I don't know of anyone who tunes these guns or their Taurus cousins. Stoning the action and swapping out springs is about all you can do, or maybe try pulling the trigger a few thousand times with a fine paste to see if that helps. Be warned, the design of the frame has changed just enough to prevent aftermarket grips from fitting. I found this out the hard way.
Thanks for the tips.
Greg, I'm sorry to hear about your bad experience with Rossi/Taurus. Like you said, i think I'd sell the gun. Speaking of selling guns... I let a few go in December. It's a long story. Thankfully, the local store owner held one back for me (without asking him to do so).. I now have my 42-43 year old Savage 20/22 back. Also, whoever bought my 627 8-shot .357, has sold it back for something else. I just teturned it to the fold. An older gentleman (friend/fellow customer) offered me a generous trade for that revolver in 2021. I even named the revolver after him...Jerry II. It's been a long 6 months, and I feel much better now.
I'm glad things are looking better for you mate 😊
Good things come to those who wait....🎉
Glad the hard times are over!
Thanks for the report. Very well articulated. I once bought an R92 in .45 Colt to complement my Colt Six Gun. I sold the Rossi without ever firing it after reading how problematic they are. Several months ago I picked up a Rossi Taurus 351. I read there were problems with older models that supposedly have been fixed. At this point I'm not sure if I want to shoot it or sell it too. So obviously my confidence in Rossi is low. I'm a S&W man when it comes to double action revolvers, J and K frames specifically. Godspeed Greg and fellows.
Thanks for sharing your experiences.
I had a similar experience with my first Taurus 856. The front sight was off, and because I wasn't shooting often, it took me a while to notice. That said, I had a much better customer service experience. I only had to call them once, they reached out to me sometime later and said it couldn't be fixed, needed to be destroyed, etc., they sent me a replacement and that was that. I never ended up actually shooting the replacement, and in fact got rid of it several weeks ago. I have a Taurus 327 now, and that one works fine. I don't plan on buying any other Taurus revolvers.
As for Rossi rifles, my Rossi 92 was fine OOTB. My Rio Bravo .22 though, the front sight was very loose and not centered. I had a gunsmith correct it. I also briefly had an R95 in .30-30; that was fine. Got rid of it because I no longer needed it.
Good input. In the multitude of counselors, wisdom is not lacking.
I think this is why we should buy S&W. Best to stick with American made revolvers
Gotta love wheel guns
Ouch, for me it has been fifty/fifty on dealing with S&W customer service. One extremely bad contact and one positive.
Luckily I haven't had to deal with their customer service/warranty... but from what I've heard, it's like pulling teeth.
And quality control is just as hit or miss with Smith as it is with anyone else lately.
@@TheOfficialCaseMade That is true with Smith.
I had the same cylinder binding problem in 2012. Sent it out, they sent it back “fixed”it. The same problem occurred . Sold it to a pawn shop and never bought another Rossi.
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Hi Greg, I'm looking forward to your review of the Heritage Roscoe, I hope you get to get your hands on one.
Hi Carlo - got to find one first!
The RP63 It's hard to find Right Now. As the local gun store says, none of his suppliers has it I've been trying to get my hands-on one of those. I just hope I don't have the issues you had with it.
I based my purchase on two of my internet gun reviewer friend's recommendations; Dan the Firearms thr Guy and Dan the Wolfman Theodore. They had good results with their firearms, so you may like the gun and get a good one.
I had a Taurus Defender 605 with the 3in barrel. It has a very heavy trigger and just wasn't fun to shoot. I sold it and bought a Rossi RM64 and it's a night and day difference. The Rossi trigger is very smooth all the way through and not as heavy as the 605. I enjoy shooting the Rossi and so far I haven't had any issues. 🤞🏽
That is excellent. I hope you get years of service out of that Rossi.
@@LionquestFitness
Did you end up keeping yours or selling it?
@@slkric1724 After dryfiring with Safety Snaps a few times I decided I didn't like the wide trigger or the sudden break Rossi triggers have. I never shot the replacement gun and sold it on consignment so the next owner would have warranty.
The wide trigger was one of the things is liked. Along with the grip. I know my RM64 is a medium frame, but I wonder if the trigger pull is the same across all three models...? I really wanted a Taurus 608... But I haven't been able to find one for a decent price.
I liked the wide trigger at first, but over time found it to be uncomfortable. Too, this was the second Rossi I've owned. The first was on the recall list from around 2018 for drop safe issues. The Rossi trigger action on both guns was stiff, then a break as opposed to Taurus triggers with a longer pull. They are progressively smooth then hit a wall and break. I prefer the progressive build up, which smooths out over time. I'm sorry I can't get on board for the new Rossi's, but if you like yours and it works for you, it doesn't matter what anyone else's preference is.
The Rossi 92 is very simple to slick up, there are plenty of videos on how to do it. Just cycling the action will help wear off the rough spots. The one thing I do each time is take a dremel tool and remove the sharp edges around the loading gate.
That's very true.
My Rossi R95 is an absolute tack driver and has the smoothest action I have ever felt. The only issue I have had is literally every screw on the rifle backed out after a few range trips.
Something to be aware of.
Thanks for keeping us posted, Greg. I haven't had any problems with mine yet, but I've only put maybe 90 rounds through it. A six round 357 with a 3 inch barrel for a budget price is a great idea. It's a shame QC and customer service aren't well executed. Hope the replacement works for you!
That's good to hear. As far as customer service I've had worse from S&W and much better from RIA, so you take your chances these days.
@@LionquestFitness I've had the same experience with S&W customer service for warranty work on a 40 cal. Made me question the value of the lifetime warranty on my air weight...
Hey, good video. if you still have this and decide letting it go, I may be your guy. Thank you for your video.
Unfortunately I already let it go.
The initial internet reviews of this pistol were so glowing that I was seriously wanting one. But then the negative comments started to slowly come in and I decided to see if Rossi was going to be able to work the bugs out. This video has made my decision. I won’t be picking up a Rossi anytime soon. I am tempted by the new Heritage Roscoe though. I’m going to have see how how these are received by reviewers.
Yep, I was already planning to buy the four inch model, and I may have still done so if the turnaround had been faster. But, I put the RP 63 they sent me up for consignment today.
i'm sorry that the rossi was a disappointment and surprised at the customer service performed by taurus. it would seem that a company trying to shed itself of a not-so-stellar reputation would try harder at pr. i bet the issue was handled stateside, where excuses are getting more common than proficiency. if i remember correctly, rossi kept control of its long gun production when the sold their revolver line to taurus but that may have changed since then. i about bought an older rossi 38 a few years ago. it was beautiful and felt great in the hand. i've also always wanted one of their leer guns. thank you for letting me know that they have issues. i had never researched that or heard about it. i guess i'll save for a henry if i ever decide to get a pistol caliber lever action(i have a marlin 30-30). maybe ruger will make one. thanks again for the videos.
Nothing against the two Rossi's I own, but Henry has the better product, and an older Marlin definitely tops the list for quality.
Unfortunately, with customer service in almost every industry, the squeaky wheel gets the oil. Quantity over quality is how things are these days. The Japanese have a concept called kaizen which they use on their cars: it means continuously analyzing your process and trying to improve it. No one can argue that they don't make great cars and happy customers keep buying them because they also treat them with respect. The firearms industry needs to adapt this.
That is absolutely correct.
Unfortunately for us, the Japanese have made the mistake of putting their factories on US soil where half-assing something is "good enough... is it break time yet?".
Honda especially has been getting steadily worse since the early 2000s with lots of transmission problems, cylinder deactivation malfunctions, and oil consumption issues. Their newer turbo 1.5 liters were blowing themselves up, they blamed it on a software/tuning issue 🤷♂️
@@TheOfficialCaseMade Not good.
Gregg, your mockingbird had a lot to say about Rossi also. Lol
🤣😂😅 The vicissitudes of filming in the early A.M.
When I worked at a guns shop we had to routinely send brand new still in the box Taurus revolvers back to the factory because they had serious flaws. Back then Taurus offered a lifetime warranty & the jole was that was because anyone who bought a Taurus NEEDED one.
My one experience owning a Taurus was like yours, frustrating...gave a buddy $100 for a Taurus Modle 85 stainless 2 inch & after light use, it broke so badly the factory had to replace it after lots of waiting & lots of phone calls.
I sold the replacement as soon as I received it.
Taurus quality control is simply too low for me to take a chance on, especially when there are sooooo many used S&W's out there....and Rossi is a step BELOW Taurus so I definitely wouldn't waste my time or money on them.
Good advice.
@@LionquestFitness & yet you're doing lots of shooters a great service by sharing your experience with these lower prices gun...as always, your videos are fun & informative...
Keep up the great work, Amigo 👍👍
@@jeffanon1772 Thanks Jeff. Everyone can't afford the best; especially in this economy. Many lower tiered guns work and work well. You just have to know their strengths and weaknesses.
THAT IS AN OLD KNOWN ISSUE -- SAME THING HAPPENED TO A REVIEWER 3-4 YEARS AGO - FINALLY GOT IT FIXED -- SOUNDS LIKE AN OLDER GUN IN REALITY - GOT A ROSSI 92 357 YEARS AGO FOR CHRISTMAS -- DID TAKE SOME POLISHING & SMOOTHING BUT NOW FEEDS ALL MY 38 SPECIAL & 357 RELOADS JUST FINE - SHOULD I HAVE HAD TO DO THAT ? I DONT THINK SO
Salut Greg, I am very fortunate as a gun collecter and shooter to have a very knowledgable gun dealer from whom I purchase all my new guns and all my second hand guns. He is also a good friend who I trust totally. When purchasing a second hand weapon the very last query that I have for him is the price. I also never buy cheaper brands of guns, my mind set is you almost always get what you pay for …… cheap for me is (fortunately) never an option in my decision process. Cordialement RB. P.S. En France the cheaper gun brands are seldom stocked.
Good afternoon Robert! Thanks for stopping in.
@@LionquestFitness Salut Greg, you don't seem to be looking any older, tu as beaucoup de chance et tu vis visiblement une belle vie! Cordialement Robert
@@romeobravo2023 Merci mon ami.
Hey Greg, would love to see you do a review on the 2024 Heritage Roscoe, double action detective gun. By the way I too am a Rossi fan and do my own gunsmithing (if possible) due to a shortage of gunsmiths. Great video!
Thanks, if I can get hold of one I will.
glad i checked your rossi review,was going to get one but nope,thanks
Don't blame you.
I can see working on a gun to upgrade it like new sights or something. But to have to tinker with it for just basic function no way. If you buy a product it should work. The money you gave them didn’t need any tinkering to spend.
Have you seen anything on the Heritage Roscoe? Would like to see you review on one! Olde English Outfitters did one, you should check it out.
I saw that review. I've yet to see one in person.
Rossi has been building revolvers for... what, 50 or 60 years? If they haven't figured it out by now, they never will.
I have 6 Taurus revolvers. 3 are great and 3 went back, stayed there , like 4 months. came back to me with the same issues. firing pin does not retract back into the frame. rounds won't always go off. too bad, they would have been nice guns. and I will not sell them so someone else gets stuck with them. maybe I can find a gunsmith.
That's probably your best bet.
Mine was so good after 1 year I bought a 2nd Cerakoted 2-tone full retail my Vid with Both went live yesterday Please check it out & leave comments. 2nd one seems fine used it in my "Modern Meat Target" testing a few days ago with the new Stout HST & Hydrashok Deep to retest them in different protocol & I filmed a Competition between my Top 5 CCW Carries with both Mid 125 Magnums & 158+p in it timed vs the other autos/calibers! Beauty got light polishing & they both got Galloway Precision Hammer Springs for the 856...that makes them really great no light hammer strikes since firing pin on the hammer with any ammo. $9 upgrade is easy. Taurus CS you have to call, be firm, & wait it can suck...I've had a couple of very good phone calls and a couple of bad ones in the last two years & I always suggest making sure they have updated information in their system if you are sending anything back & forth. I've got vids on GX4 Carry it's been awesome, and my most Pimpulishish Auto is coming up! Hopefully an 856 Executive or a two tone 856 Ultralight, or 16" Lever will be in my future at some point.
I was thinking about getting one, not anymore. Thanks.
Some have liked and had good results with them, but I wouldn't recommend them.
@@LionquestFitness Yeah.
A very stiff pull with a sudden break?... Yeah, that might be kinda odd; it just might not be to your liking. Every trigger is different.
That is true.
Ya know Lefty, I hadn't heard Anyone giving Taurus Customer Service good reviews ever. At least not I'm my recollection. However there are many people praising their offerings, myself including with my PT22....Look at the G series 9mm plasticfantastics🤷the Gallery Rifles, 856's, ect. Even Smith and Wesson have been poorly reported QC & CS. My Interarms era Rossi firearms are definitely superior quality to today's standards, but so is most manufactured firearms. That being said, I question my unfired R63 Tungsten Cerakote.....lol
Not a big fan of S&W customer service. They tend to have a "don't call us, we'll call you attitude." I have had one good experience with them turning a clocked barrel and tuning the revolver up, and one negative where they absolutely refused to make good on a striker fired pistol that should have never left the factory.
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Yes Sir, We're taking a bit of a gamble when we're purchasing our tools from today's manufacturers
That's too bad, Rossi makes some really good looking revolvers, especially the blued ones.
I was really hoping Rossi had gotten their act together.
Is it just me or has the quality of everything manufactured since "Covid" gone right down the crapper?
I see the same thing John.
I think gun smithing is one of those dying arts. It's sort of like auto mechanics where things have evolved to a point where you have to take them to the dealer rather than a general auto mechanic. And that is where customer service comes in. You have fewer choices now. So why should they be any good?
Very valid point.
They will definitely lose money, because of your review and its their own fault.
👍👍thanks Greg. I was wondering how your R92s have been and what and if anything you had to do to them. I just ordered one in 357 and hoping I don’t regret it. I’ve always been kind of Leary of Rossi and Taurus because you hear a lot of good things but also a lot of bad things about them. Kind of a mixed bag.
That's for sure. I am going to have to do a sight adjustment on the 16 inch, and going to have to change the spring in the loading chamber. I also need to file down the loading gate a bit more. Nothing so far on the twenty inch model.
@@LionquestFitness appreciate the reply
Hey Greg great video i ordered the Rossi RP 63 from Buds Guns and i am gonna pick it up Monday or Tuesday i will let you know if i have any problems i am getting the blued steel
Let me know Terry and what you think about it.
@@LionquestFitness yes sir sure will
Had one and traded it in 3 months ago if I buy a new firearm then I should be able to use it right out of the box without doing any gunsmithing, it has no sight picture, the way too heavy double action trigger seems like 20 pounds and I doubt if this revolver will hold up to some 357 magnum use. Why buy a new revolver that you have to work on or send it to a gunsmith just spend a little extra money for something better or you will end up spending it on this Rossi.
Good point.
Greg can i ask you your opinion on the Taurus model 905 they have one used at my local gun shop have you ever owned one or heard anything about them? Thanks Greg!
had a 905, too much crimp jump and light strikes. not worth the headache. better to stick to 856 or 605. never had a problem with those.
Other than they are hard to find, I haven't heard much.
@@DeezyweezyYOOO Thanks for that input.
I'll take it if you don't want it
I sold it this afternoon.
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That is not the way customer service is supposed to be . Very disappointing. I have an RP 63 that I haven't shot yet .
No, it is not. Proper service is a confirmation that the product is received, followed by notification of the problem and how it is to be resolved.
Overpriced Saturday night special
Grambo... this video is an example why people watch you. (even without the bandana😊)
That's true, Les.. However, I think Greg should sell autographed 8X10 photos of him wearing a banana, holding one of his prized S&W revolvers. Soon to be available in the Lionquest Fitness merch store!
@@tylermorrison7051 I agree 💯 Tyler.
It could be the Pre-poster foundation for the advertisements for the Grambo Academy of Refined Gentlemen.
Time will tell 😀
@@tylermorrison7051 Hmmm...
@@lesgillard985 Bandannas, moccasins and blue jean shirts; what the refined gents wear.
@LionquestFitness Les, Grambo has spoken!
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This is why I would never buy a Rossi orTaurus - their customer service is lousy compared to S&W and Ruger. And the odds of getting a clunker from Rossi or Taurus is much higher than S&W or Ruger.
I'm 50/50 on Smith & Wesson, but I've always heard good things about Ruger customer service.
@@LionquestFitness I have never had to send an S&W revolver back but the guys at the range say the warranty service is good. Ruger is even better.
@@PassivePortfolios One revolver back for a canted barrel and a polymer semi auto back for a poorly broached barrel and a warped frame. They did a good job on the revolver but the less said about my interaction with the SD-9 Value Enhanced pistol the better.
No thanks…….nothing I’d buy
Tell the birds to shut up
Can you tell the wind to quit blowing?
I know from experience taurus,/rossi service is crap 💩
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