Skyrim Battles - Werebears vs. Frost Trolls, Giant, Karstaag, and more

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  • Werebears and some other creatures tend to run away from certain other creatures, usually making proper battles between them impossible. After an awful lot of testing, I have finally figured out a (somewhat complicated) workaround. It's not great, but it gets the job done for now.
    The strongest Werebears have more health and do more damage than the strongest Werewolves. I have made an episode about a Werewolf Vargr before, but never a Werebear; he only appeared in random episodes.
    Werebears have a 75% resistance to frost, making them well suited against Karstaag's frost cloak and blizzard, although they have no physical resistance, so Karstaag's melee attacks are usually lethal in 2 hits.
    Contrary to what many people would think, Karstaag can be ragdolled by several sources other than Unrelenting Force. Werewolf/Werebear power attacks affect him normally and can toss him around over large distances.
    Too many werecreatures at once are not practical because they keep Karstaag ragdolled almost permanently, but like all other NPCs, they also get very passive towards a ragdolled target and will often just stand around, doing nothing than waiting until their opponent is back up. The result is a very slow and boring fight. 5-7 Werebears are at the edge of what I consider somewhat functional for entertaining battles.
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Комментарии • 81

  • @user-fq4qf3qz1c
    @user-fq4qf3qz1c 26 дней назад +18

    Karstaag says “ you can stagger me but in the end I will always win”

  • @guaxinimaurora
    @guaxinimaurora 26 дней назад +19

    Oh my God!!! The werebears can stagger and throw out karstag... 😱

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  26 дней назад +3

      Yes! That content is very rare, so I'm happy to show it! 😁

    • @artisticbang9111
      @artisticbang9111 26 дней назад +4

      I'm taking notes now on how to bring down Karstaag 😅
      -Enchanted Dwarven Crossbow with the best fire enchantments.
      -Mage Follower equipped with Azidal's Ring that grants Ignite spell
      -and a Conjure Werebear power from the beast stone.
      Flawless plan.🎉

    • @LICENFIREFEAR
      @LICENFIREFEAR 25 дней назад

      Fire is pathetic​@@artisticbang9111

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  25 дней назад

      ​@@artisticbang9111 Ignite is broken, that's probably the strongest part of your plan! 😎 The Dwarven Crossbow is good too, especially if you can manage to get sneak attacks in. I'm not sure if the werebear will survive long, but yes, give it a try!

  • @thatskeletordude5271
    @thatskeletordude5271 26 дней назад +7

    Cool battles, goes to show how powerful Beast Form/Werebears actually are, you can actually kill Karstaag at lvl 1 with Beast Form on Legendary.
    If i remember correctly, the immersive creatures mod have Draman that use the Werewolf, Vampire Lord and Gargoyle skeleton but have more interestung abilities and "shouts"

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  25 дней назад

      Thanks! I used to think werewolves were bad, until I found out that you can do a sprinting power attack. That one is broken. 😆
      Are there any that are particularly well made? I deactivated that mod by now because it also overrides quite a few NPCs, which is very annoying for most of my videos 😅

    • @thatskeletordude5271
      @thatskeletordude5271 25 дней назад +1

      Specifically the Werewolf variants, they have dragon shouts (Fire Breath, Frost Breath and Unrelenting Force) yes, every template has a Fire, Frost and non elemental variant.
      The Gargoyle ones deal major dmg and are somewhat resistant to physical harm.
      The Vampire Lord variants have high health, are aggressive and deal high melee dmg.

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  25 дней назад

      @@thatskeletordude5271 Okay, thanks! I'll see if I get back to that mod sometime 😄

    • @jonathansnyder5307
      @jonathansnyder5307 23 дня назад +1

      Every time I read your comments I always hear it in skeletor’s voice

  • @jeremygott7709
    @jeremygott7709 26 дней назад +8

    Those werebears actually had a chance in that last fight, if they would have kept on him. Also werebears and werewolves should have a natural resistance to cold, due to their fur, not so much that they should win, but they should have at least the same buff that Nords have if not a better one.

    • @thatskeletordude5271
      @thatskeletordude5271 26 дней назад +4

      Werebears actually have Nord frost resistance, also it seems that the Werebears ran out of stamina because of Karstaags cloak.

    • @jeremygott7709
      @jeremygott7709 25 дней назад +1

      @@thatskeletordude5271 Ah, I see. I never tried to use frost attacks against them, so I didn't know they had a resistance, and Karstaag took a lot of health off of some of them with little effort, but then, Karstaag is very powerful. I didn't consider that they'd run out of stamina, I just figured when they turned their attention away from Karstaag they'd screwed themselves.

    • @LICENFIREFEAR
      @LICENFIREFEAR 25 дней назад

      the cold is still powerfull

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  25 дней назад +1

      Enough werebears can definitely win! They even have a 75% resistance to frost, making them very resilient against Karstaag's cloak and blizzard, but they have no resistance to his melee attacks.
      I really don't like wins that are primarily from stunlock (or in this case, almost permanent ragdoll). What makes it worse is that NPCs get very weird with ragdolled NPCs, often refusing to attack at all. So this setup was hard 😅

  • @InsanityLuc
    @InsanityLuc 25 дней назад +3

    4:30 Suddenly the rechargable shout bar appeared from nowhere in the upper corner. This is the first time I saw an episode dedicated to Werebears, never fought them in the game just like werewolfs. I do not even know if their stunlock attacks affect the player. Strange how you can spend hundreds of hours in the game and not encounter all the enemies which you can fight. The only werewolf I saw, was in one of the dungeons where the Silver-Blood family was present.

    • @thatskeletordude5271
      @thatskeletordude5271 25 дней назад +2

      There's a mod that enables them to ragdoll the player and, let's say that they are not fun to fight (Basically Draugr Deathlord but he always shouts at you)
      Also you will only encounters Werewolves at night (more frequently with Dawnguard installed)

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  25 дней назад

      The shout bar was from me accidentally hitting the shout button while moving my mouse. I had Clear Skies equipped, which is why the weather changed after that. I wasn't going to keep that, but it was the best recording I had. 😂
      I rarely ever met Werebears either. Then again, I don't think I did the quest that involves finding Torkild. As for Werewolves, I only really remember Sinding and the ones during the Companions questline 😅

  • @jakoblarsson1926
    @jakoblarsson1926 26 дней назад +7

    😂5:30= Ancano being sent to the moon. How about Ebony Warrior vs Alduin and 2 Legendary Dragons and Miraak vs Lord Harkon?

    • @jeremygott7709
      @jeremygott7709 26 дней назад +1

      Ebony Warrior vs Alduin would at least be a battle, Miraak should be able to handle Harkon and his entire crew by himself.

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  25 дней назад +3

      Where he belongs! 😆
      I have done the Ebony Warrior vs. 2 Legendary Dragons here:
      ruclips.net/video/Q10SC6Gq8OI/видео.html
      Adding Alduin to this would be overkill, the dragons would win easily. 😅
      As for Miraak and Harkon, that's more complicated. Miraak is much stronger. I have done him vs. Harkon and a Nightmaster Vampire here:
      ruclips.net/video/8FbVw74XNcs/видео.html
      I'm currently working on making some content with Harkon's boss mechanics. I can put Miraak against him sometime, but then Miraak would lack his own mechanics. So it's hard to compare 😅

    • @jakoblarsson1926
      @jakoblarsson1926 25 дней назад +2

      @@lSlendermaster 😂
      Yeah that's what i was hoping for (I Hate The Ebony Warrior). That would be cool to be honest to see if Miraak could beat Harkon during his boss battle. Would you also have Savos going up against Harkon in the boss battle?

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  25 дней назад

      @@jakoblarsson1926 I see. 😂 Miraak shouldn't struggle much with Harkon even during his boss battle. Savos would probably be too weak, but it could be a cool fight still!

  • @Argist1
    @Argist1 26 дней назад +5

    Karstaag says you cannot pass 😂😂😂😂

  • @danielstormcloak8203
    @danielstormcloak8203 21 день назад +1

    Man I remember my first Werebear encounter. It was durinng that quest for the guy in the Skaal Village, to find his brother. Wish I could forget this whole game so I could play it again blindly...

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  20 дней назад

      I have the same feeling with Skyrim and Minecraft. Good times 😄

  • @ashtraystories
    @ashtraystories 25 дней назад +3

    I love watching these videos. The entrances you give the NPCs and creatures at the beginning of each fight is so awesome. Never knew Karstaag could be rag dolled haha

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  25 дней назад +1

      Thanks, great that you like them! 😁 Yes, I assume most people didn't know that 😂

  • @judinatheargonianthief1385
    @judinatheargonianthief1385 25 дней назад +2

    Dragon Priest: No one can send us into the air, out of my sight, you beast!
    Karstaag would have won either way, thanks to his ice aura.
    Also, given how he lost his health in the bloopers, there's nothing to worry about XD

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  25 дней назад

      Well spoken! 😎
      Karstaag has died sometimes if he has fallen too far, but otherwise, he usually wins 😂

  • @LICENFIREFEAR
    @LICENFIREFEAR 25 дней назад +1

    OH MY GREATNESS YOU DID THE GREATEST !🤩🤩🤩 werebears are my favorite creations of hircine ! i wish the devolopers made them taller than werewolves and gave them their own style of combat

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  25 дней назад

      Awesome that you enjoyed it! 😎 Own style of combat? How exactly? 🤔

  • @hizumi8983
    @hizumi8983 25 дней назад +1

    *Fight the Giant*
    "Im not going flying, you are!"

  • @thatoneguy6109
    @thatoneguy6109 26 дней назад +1

    Nice to see Karstaag finally getting ragdolled😹😹😹

  • @CallumDT
    @CallumDT 25 дней назад +1

    I love the batlle location! I know where it is but had to think twice! First location i wasn't sure where it was at first!

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  25 дней назад

      Cool! 😎 I was trying to find a remote location on Solstheim that doesn't cause too many pathfinding issues and has enough space for the final battle. Finding a fitting area is hard sometimes 😅

  • @brandonmorris7211
    @brandonmorris7211 12 дней назад

    Oooo. What a treat it would be to see them or werewolves team up with other NPCs. 🤔

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  12 дней назад +1

      Several of them would be too hard to handle for almost anyone, I'm afraid 😅

  • @HJHWolf
    @HJHWolf 25 дней назад +2

    Didn't know werebear could stagger Karstaag, which means maybe we can defeat Karstaag with werewolf beast form if we can control good and maybe some mods

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  25 дней назад

      I've tried that, and the only real problems were his cloak and his ice wraiths. 😅 I eventually died from that even though I kept him ragdolled permanently, but with some more HP, it should be easy!

  • @Rivale95
    @Rivale95 25 дней назад +2

    I loved the part where they beat each other

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  25 дней назад +1

      Familiar name, did we fight the Ender Dragon in a parallel life? 🤔

  • @sandhikaaryadaryanto305
    @sandhikaaryadaryanto305 24 дня назад +1

    did you use any mods or command to make them fight? or they just naturally attack each other once they spawned?

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  24 дня назад

      Most of them attack by themselves. That goes for almost all hostile NPCs in the game as long as they're not part of the same or allied factions. Otherwise, I use commands to make them aggressive 😄

    • @sandhikaaryadaryanto305
      @sandhikaaryadaryanto305 24 дня назад +1

      @@lSlendermaster i see, may i know the exact command u use to make them hostile?

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  23 дня назад +1

      ​@@sandhikaaryadaryanto305 The easiest way is to click on an NPC and use the command "setav aggression 3". This makes them attack everyone in sight, including their own allies. Unfortunately, it also makes them hostile towards the player, so you should stay away from them 😅

  • @redwind5150
    @redwind5150 26 дней назад +1

    Trolls death
    FATALITY
    Ancano got his YES! Elenwen got hers against Alduin too.

  • @MiraakPrimeiroDragonborn109
    @MiraakPrimeiroDragonborn109 26 дней назад +2

    Sugestão Neloth,Savos Aren e Ildari vs dragão lendário

    • @user-fq4qf3qz1c
      @user-fq4qf3qz1c 26 дней назад +3

      He doesnt do battles he does character battles as in with a specific npc type

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  25 дней назад

      They would completely destroy that dragon. Maybe sometime with only 2 of those 😅

  • @CallumDT
    @CallumDT 25 дней назад +1

    Why do you say the workaround is "not great" in the description?

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  25 дней назад

      It mostly works, but it's rather complicated to set up, and doesn't go with all creatures. For example, frost trolls still flee from Karstaag, although werewolves and werebears can now fight Giants, Karstaag, Lurkers, etc. consistently.
      For this video, it was enough, but the problems aren't fully solved 😅

  • @gigihprahardiantoro549
    @gigihprahardiantoro549 26 дней назад

    All Imperial NPC (Solitude, Markarth, And Another town Who goes in imperial) Vs Karstaag
    *Imperial all fight together
    *Fight in Solitude / Markarth

    • @thatskeletordude5271
      @thatskeletordude5271 26 дней назад +2

      They still stand no chance, also Skyrim AI gets wacky with so many NPCs.

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  25 дней назад

      That's too much effort and too chaotic for my taste. Sorry 😅

  • @seriouspisces
    @seriouspisces 26 дней назад +1

    the problem with the trolls is that they do that silly little animation to much

  • @sebastianospinaospina8485
    @sebastianospinaospina8485 24 дня назад

    Oye qué pena te puedo hacer una pregunta de pronto me puedes quitar la duda o no se si eres espero también en Oblivion pero sabes si hay un comando para el altar d encantamiento no crear hechizos showspellmaking sino el altar sabes si hay un comando o toca Aser las recomendaciones obligado o con el mod ??

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  23 дня назад +1

      I'm not sure if I get what you mean. 😅 I have never played Oblivion, so if it's about that game, I wouldn't know how to do anything

    • @sebastianospinaospina8485
      @sebastianospinaospina8485 23 дня назад +1

      ​@@lSlendermasterOk gracias igual xd

  • @patpaul6251
    @patpaul6251 26 дней назад +1

    You fixed that wierd AI glitch that causes them to run away from Giants?

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  25 дней назад +1

      Not exactly; I figured out an indirect way, but it's pretty tedious to set up and doesn't always work. I was hoping to improve it further. 😅 Are there any werewolf or werebear episodes you wanted to make but couldn't because of them running away?

    • @patpaul6251
      @patpaul6251 25 дней назад +1

      @@lSlendermaster I'm not sure if I ever released it, but there was a video with a bunch of Giants fighting Karstaag, and all the Giants refused to fight him. They just kept to the exit of the arena like they were waiting for the door to open lol

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  25 дней назад

      @@patpaul6251 Oh, hmm. That sounds like a different issue. 😅 Have you tried it in a different location? Maybe pathfinding was a problem?

    • @patpaul6251
      @patpaul6251 25 дней назад

      @@lSlendermaster not likely, whenever Karstaag run up to them, they just fled to his throne. Then he run up to them again, and they run away back to the door again

    • @patpaul6251
      @patpaul6251 25 дней назад +1

      @@lSlendermaster I understand your solution works only on Werebeasts and Trolls? If Trolls, then the Armored Trolls in the tournament caused their opponents run away from them and they run the opposite direction

  • @sebastianospinaospina8485
    @sebastianospinaospina8485 25 дней назад +1

    Lol apenas me vengo a dar cuenta d eso y q estupidez xd como va a ser más fuerte un empujón q un ful Ro dau xdxx

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  25 дней назад +1

      You probably mean Karstaag? He specifically resists Unrelenting Force, most likely so players can't ragdoll him too easily 😄

    • @sebastianospinaospina8485
      @sebastianospinaospina8485 24 дня назад +1

      Exacto lol pero bueno y lo peor es q el dobakin no puede ni siendo hombre lobo creo xdd​@@lSlendermaster

    • @lSlendermaster
      @lSlendermaster  24 дня назад +1

      @@sebastianospinaospina8485 You can't become a werebear, but you can become a werewolf and ragdoll Karstaag as well! 😎