Tell them if they want 440 I have a step up/down transformer thats just in my way. Jeff I don't have 3 phase ether, my shop (like many) runs off a phase converter. Mine is a 15 horse from American Rotary, it has been awesome. I have a 5 horse sitting here gathering dust, it'll run a Bridgeport and late of the size you'd want. Don't let your lack of 3 phase off your pole spook you away from buying good iron when you see it, its very overcomeable.
Now that your old boring rerun intro's are gone, I have re-subscribed to your channel. It is so nice to come here and just see your machinery content because you have great content, and your personality is so cool and laid back and relaxing with no drama. And you're an inspiration to many of us, to get off the couch and go do something productive. Your determination to stick to a project and see it through to completion, is an inspiration and great example for many of us to follow. The more you practice and refine, the better your videos are becoming. Good job J. Thank you, Chris
Boy, it might nice to get the back story on this unit from the mechanic....If he isn't to embarrassed to talk to you, after seeing some of his handy work!! Lol
I spent 20 years programing large lathes. Made many a cylinder rod, pistons, glandnuts, cylinders and sprokets. Along with most anything else you can think of. Now im disabled and just bide my time playing in my home machine shop. And i watch a few videos.
@jamesmurney1374 yes. As a machinist, that is about the only machine shop channel I watch. I find it interesting. And I always think of how I would approach the jobs he does. 95% of the time, I agree with his approach. He is a very smart and talented machinist. I watch every Friday morning.
Jeff, a rotator truck would be ideal…. Would be great if you could find a RUclipsr with a rotator. I watch you tuber Ron Platt run his rotator in Cape Girardeau MO…obviously too far for a collaboration. And if that doesn’t workout for you… aren’t you in the market for a new service truck……a quick test drive to your shop to test hydraulic crane operation! Haha. Love the D9 series
We had a piece of Chanel iron that went across the top of the valve covers and had holes for all the studs and a shackle in the middle to lift and balance it out we picked them with a old Hyster Cary crane. I’ve fixed many of the motor mount holes they were either broken off of the threads where gone. I blew the broken ones out with the torch and put in the Cat thread inserts to fix them back to new I cut my teeth working on these in the early 80’s
For spreaders I always used standard I - Beam and plate gussets and lugs. You can get some good ideas from looking as Caldwell, Crosby or Yoke on-line catalogs.
I believe a digital phase converter is the way to go. Efficient and provide better power for CNC equipment. So, may not be worth running 3ph to a shop for just a few machines.
I know you don't want to rebuild the engine, but you've come this far. If you do it, there's no guessing what you have when its all finished and back working...
Your not kidding about prices! Steel has gotten ridiculous. With all the crap in that cooling system, and the way everything else on that tractor looks, you know you might as well open up that engine. If you don’t do it when it’s out, when? New bearings, liners pistons and valves and it’s good to go for decades.
Yeah, you’re going to get into it. You’ll convince yourself there’s no better time, and you’re into it this deep. You’ll probably have plenty of cold days to work on it since your car is done.
Thanks for sharing. Looked like a Awesome machine shop. From what I have seen either you or your son definitely, have the operating Finess to use the excavator to extract the D353 engine, after you drop off the bucket. Rods look Great. TGP
Thick wall 4x4 square tubing with a 1/2-3/4” full length 3-4” rib running the length of it should carry 8-9000 pounds as a lifting jig. Then you could always have it to adapt to other engines. You can drill a series of pin holes down the rib in order for you to balance it out.
1/2”. And I agree that I’m not sure if I’d trust that auto crane 8005 to pick it. You’d have to be right up on it an then it’d still be at its limit. Not to mention it testing the strength of your crane mount on your box. I have found it hard to maneuver loads that maxed out my crane since I had to keep the boom almost straight up, which kept the loads to close to my truck when I was already crowding the piece of equipment I was working on. My crane definitely wouldn’t be able to handle it, mine is a older 5005h auto crane .
Two chains with a 4x4 square spreader tube. Put a appropriately rated chain hoist or come along between the spreader and the hit hook. Basically allow you to shorten or lengthen one end of the lift to move your hook forward or backward.
next video I'll post a picture of the CAT tool, I like the tube idea, someone said to place a flat bar with holes on top and on the bottom a plate on each end with a hole for a clevis
Mr Paydirt a small machine shop by me sold out . He had a Haas machine twice that size and it brought chump change. I worked for the guy for a while. His big CNC mill brought 975 bucks.😮
If you rig it right, your spreader bar only needs to be strong in compression. You can take some 3X3 tubing cut to around 4’ and weld some 3/8” plate on each end, edgewise to the longitudinal axis. Those plates will have two holes in them big enough to take, probably, 3/4” shackles, one over the other vertically. You’re probably going to rig it with some 3/8” chains or bigger. The two upper chains should be as long as possible for strength. They’ll go from the upper shackles to your lifting point. Then rig your lower shackles to two points on your giant-ass motor. When rigged like this, the weight of the motor isn’t borne by the spreader but just passes through the end plates. All the bar does is keep the lifting chains in place. I’m confident that you’ve got the shackles and scrap steel lying about the place already. Between you and the welding boys you should be able to knock a spreader bar out lickety split. 👍. Good luck!
reading some of the comments I think I'll use square tube, weld a half/three qtrs flat bar on top with some holes every couple inches, then weld a lifting eye at the bottom at each end, the cat tool shows a beam from the rear lifting eye to the front mounts with chain and large hooks, holes at the top to lift more to the rear, if I build something decent I can use it for other stuff, it's 80" from the front to the rear, I think they want you to lift vertically from the front motor mount straight up, they even show a spreader bar between the front chains to keep from pulling on the mount
@@Jpaydirt That will probably work. I did something similar with a length of 8” I-beam years ago to lift a D7 motor. Of course, they “Only” weigh about 4K pounds.
well it seems like you fell on yr feet findin that mob good on you still followin yr posts and lovin them very down to earth no spin or B/S if you like and a lot of humour thank you
Good of reason as any to fix your crane in the rear storage area to lift that engine ,, WE will enjoy the content of that as well very much ,, or hey borrow one from Deisel Creek
Don't know about spreader but like @localcrew. I've not liked using hydraulics to do a precision pluck or set. I like the crane or a hoist. So 988 with a chain hoist. Chain lift the 1st 6 inches, then the 988 can take over. This assumes the 988 doesn't leak down when unattended.
So is the motor toast or just up for a refresh … ? The track gear look pretty sharp .. I heard you say steering clutch’s ..!! Going for the doctor ! Hope the final drives are cheery ..! 😮 As for a lifting ass I’d steer clear of a railway track member to brittle to play with .. get some I beam and some flat or rod to triangle it to a central lifting eye 👍
engine ran good, but it blew a hose as i was dozing in the yard and blew oil all over the exhaust, go through my D9 Restoration playlist to listen to it run
I was thinking if you welded or bolt some metal blocks on the bottom of that massive engine. To use as lift points. Use one of your forklifts. Spread the forks out wide enough to slide under those blocks. Just a thought.
Take a sharpie to the duty chart on ur crane, carefully add a 1 before the 8000. Will lift it fine. Carefully, mind. Would 2 binders/chains close up the ripper frame?
Not to pick on any buddy but do you have a exit plan I have been watching and listening to you since you put the cab on the scraper how much time be for retirement or will your boys take over thanks love your videos
Honestly, Jeff, how some people have hammered these machines. Rough-arsed operators and rogue mechanics. Talk about disrespect. There should be a penitentiary for them: ten years max for hammering a CAT.
it's got a new undercarriage and just needs some overdue care, for what I paid I'm not complaining, I don't want a highdrive and it's tough to find a decent D9H anymore that doesn't need work
I want one with a cab, heater and A/C Plus killdozer needs some attention and I can't be down, as soon as I start working on it someone would call and need killdozer, plus a man can't have just one D9 LOL
So that engine block seems to weight 2890 lbs or 1311 kg and a quick look at your crane chart says your good for 4740 lbs @ 45 degrees and 5930 @ 60 degrees both at a 14 ft radius wish I was there to measure it out but with the service Trk parallel to the tracks pick over the side and set it behind the Trk. The crane will be a bit stronger over the rear so pick it over the side and it gets better once you leave it’s perch, I think it can do it, check cable condition if you need to 2 part the line ? And think about added weight on the engine? Just my thoughts, I googled that engine weight not sure how accurate that is, anyway good luck, curious what you guys think.
Working on those big bolts will help you sleep !! You are swinging around like a monkey on your jungle gym... Dont get hurt . Hope your young blokes come and give it a go ..
Tell them if they want 440 I have a step up/down transformer thats just in my way.
Jeff I don't have 3 phase ether, my shop (like many) runs off a phase converter. Mine is a 15 horse from American Rotary, it has been awesome. I have a 5 horse sitting here gathering dust, it'll run a Bridgeport and late of the size you'd want. Don't let your lack of 3 phase off your pole spook you away from buying good iron when you see it, its very overcomeable.
Now that your old boring rerun intro's are gone, I have re-subscribed to your channel. It is so nice to come here and just see your machinery content because you have great content, and your personality is so cool and laid back and relaxing with no drama. And you're an inspiration to many of us, to get off the couch and go do something productive. Your determination to stick to a project and see it through to completion, is an inspiration and great example for many of us to follow.
The more you practice and refine, the better your videos are becoming. Good job J. Thank you, Chris
I'm loving the d9 videos! One heck of a undertaking you are taking!
Boy, it might nice to get the back story on this unit from the mechanic....If he isn't to embarrassed to talk to you, after seeing some of his handy work!! Lol
Somehow I doubt he will call back.
@@billmoran3812 That's what I'm thinking too.
Maybe it came off a vertical on its side to bend it
Thanks jeff that feller that did your rods seems to be top notch ,good things are comeing
Maybe a switchblade turbski in the works?…….. love series can’t wait to this beast back in the dirt
Two thumbs up for the song you're using with the recent time lapses.
Great video Jeff looking forward to the engine coming out and the rest of D9H in the shop. Thanks for sharing stay safe Jeff.
You bet
That old 9 be a beast when it's done .keep going .👍
I took some parts for a grain cart up there years ago when I was working in Mud Lake. They do good work.
Great video thanks for sharing
Thanks for sharing your experience and time with us. I love the thought of doing restorations like that
I spent 20 years programing large lathes. Made many a cylinder rod, pistons, glandnuts, cylinders and sprokets. Along with most anything else you can think of. Now im disabled and just bide my time playing in my home machine shop. And i watch a few videos.
Do you watch Cutting Edge Engineering out of Australia? Amazing channel
@jamesmurney1374 yes. As a machinist, that is about the only machine shop channel I watch. I find it interesting. And I always think of how I would approach the jobs he does. 95% of the time, I agree with his approach. He is a very smart and talented machinist. I watch every Friday morning.
Love your D9 videos
Jeff, a rotator truck would be ideal…. Would be great if you could find a RUclipsr with a rotator. I watch you tuber Ron Platt run his rotator in Cape Girardeau MO…obviously too far for a collaboration. And if that doesn’t workout for you… aren’t you in the market for a new service truck……a quick test drive to your shop to test hydraulic crane operation! Haha. Love the D9 series
Thanks for the show Jeff
We had a piece of Chanel iron that went across the top of the valve covers and had holes for all the studs and a shackle in the middle to lift and balance it out we picked them with a old Hyster Cary crane. I’ve fixed many of the motor mount holes they were either broken off of the threads where gone. I blew the broken ones out with the torch and put in the Cat thread inserts to fix them back to new
I cut my teeth working on these in the early 80’s
It's a great life if You don't weaken.
Thanks for sharing Jeff. Best Wishes.
For spreaders I always used standard I - Beam and plate gussets and lugs. You can get some good ideas from looking as Caldwell, Crosby or Yoke on-line catalogs.
8:22 wow ! New tracks ! Very nice
that's why I bought it, I paid 34k for it and that undercarriage is worth that
This will be a cake walk compared to your Chrysler. You got this Jeff!
Its amazing how big the parts and everything is.
I believe a digital phase converter is the way to go. Efficient and provide better power for CNC equipment. So, may not be worth running 3ph to a shop for just a few machines.
I know you don't want to rebuild the engine, but you've come this far. If you do it, there's no guessing what you have when its all finished and back working...
It has been tortured be kind
Your not kidding about prices! Steel has gotten ridiculous.
With all the crap in that cooling system, and the way everything else on that tractor looks, you know you might as well open up that engine. If you don’t do it when it’s out, when? New bearings, liners pistons and valves and it’s good to go for decades.
Jeff, even stripped down she's a beast. Great series! Take care and thanks for sharing.
Those tractors had steering clutch ❤andbrakingsyystemthanthegmodel
RED GREEN!! C’Mon Jeff!
Loved it- thanks for sharing! R
That's actually my voice
Yeah, you’re going to get into it. You’ll convince yourself there’s no better time, and you’re into it this deep.
You’ll probably have plenty of cold days to work on it since your car is done.
you know me better than me knows me LOL
Thanks for sharing. Looked like a Awesome machine shop.
From what I have seen either you or your son definitely, have the operating
Finess to use the excavator to extract the D353 engine, after you drop off the bucket.
Rods look Great.
TGP
unless the 336 tips over LOL
Whatever you use to lift the engine make sure it's bolted to the earth 😄
Service manual may have field tool (FT for D379) drawing? D7G had FT for turbo overhaul. Work safely (safety factor of 5) for spreader bar.
I love the machine shop. Wish I was there to give you a hand.
Ought oh! I better find where I put those shafts!! To be honest I had forgot about em since they are in the old shop.
Thick wall 4x4 square tubing with a 1/2-3/4” full length 3-4” rib running the length of it should carry 8-9000 pounds as a lifting jig. Then you could always have it to adapt to other engines. You can drill a series of pin holes down the rib in order for you to balance it out.
what do you consider thick wall?
1/2”. And I agree that I’m not sure if I’d trust that auto crane 8005 to pick it. You’d have to be right up on it an then it’d still be at its limit. Not to mention it testing the strength of your crane mount on your box. I have found it hard to maneuver loads that maxed out my crane since I had to keep the boom almost straight up, which kept the loads to close to my truck when I was already crowding the piece of equipment I was working on. My crane definitely wouldn’t be able to handle it, mine is a older 5005h auto crane .
Two chains with a 4x4 square spreader tube. Put a appropriately rated chain hoist or come along between the spreader and the hit hook. Basically allow you to shorten or lengthen one end of the lift to move your hook forward or backward.
next video I'll post a picture of the CAT tool, I like the tube idea, someone said to place a flat bar with holes on top and on the bottom a plate on each end with a hole for a clevis
Go Jeff!
I bet you will get into that motor lol
Mr Paydirt a small machine shop by me sold out . He had a Haas machine twice that size and it brought chump change. I worked for the guy for a while. His big CNC mill brought 975 bucks.😮
If you rig it right, your spreader bar only needs to be strong in compression. You can take some 3X3 tubing cut to around 4’ and weld some 3/8” plate on each end, edgewise to the longitudinal axis. Those plates will have two holes in them big enough to take, probably, 3/4” shackles, one over the other vertically. You’re probably going to rig it with some 3/8” chains or bigger. The two upper chains should be as long as possible for strength. They’ll go from the upper shackles to your lifting point. Then rig your lower shackles to two points on your giant-ass motor. When rigged like this, the weight of the motor isn’t borne by the spreader but just passes through the end plates. All the bar does is keep the lifting chains in place. I’m confident that you’ve got the shackles and scrap steel lying about the place already. Between you and the welding boys you should be able to knock a spreader bar out lickety split. 👍. Good luck!
reading some of the comments I think I'll use square tube, weld a half/three qtrs flat bar on top with some holes every couple inches, then weld a lifting eye at the bottom at each end, the cat tool shows a beam from the rear lifting eye to the front mounts with chain and large hooks, holes at the top to lift more to the rear, if I build something decent I can use it for other stuff, it's 80" from the front to the rear, I think they want you to lift vertically from the front motor mount straight up, they even show a spreader bar between the front chains to keep from pulling on the mount
@@Jpaydirt That will probably work. I did something similar with a length of 8” I-beam years ago to lift a D7 motor. Of course, they “Only” weigh about 4K pounds.
Awesome!
Thanks!
Thanks Jeff !
well it seems like you fell on yr feet findin that mob good on you still followin yr posts and lovin them very down to earth no spin or B/S if you like and a lot of humour thank you
Thanks!
Good of reason as any to fix your crane in the rear storage area to lift that engine ,, WE will enjoy the content of that as well very much ,, or hey borrow one from Deisel Creek
You might be able to safely use your crane if you tore off a bunch of externals from the engine (including head?)
Don't know about spreader but like @localcrew. I've not liked using hydraulics to do a precision pluck or set. I like the crane or a hoist. So 988 with a chain hoist. Chain lift the 1st 6 inches, then the 988 can take over. This assumes the 988 doesn't leak down when unattended.
So is the motor toast or just up for a refresh … ? The track gear look pretty sharp ..
I heard you say steering clutch’s ..!! Going for the doctor ! Hope the final drives are cheery ..! 😮
As for a lifting ass I’d steer clear of a railway track member to brittle to play with .. get some I beam and some flat or rod to triangle it to a central lifting eye 👍
engine ran good, but it blew a hose as i was dozing in the yard and blew oil all over the exhaust, go through my D9 Restoration playlist to listen to it run
I was thinking if you welded or bolt some metal blocks on the bottom of that massive engine. To use as lift points. Use one of your forklifts. Spread the forks out wide enough to slide under those blocks.
Just a thought.
Take a sharpie to the duty chart on ur crane, carefully add a 1 before the 8000. Will lift it fine. Carefully, mind. Would 2 binders/chains close up the ripper frame?
Yeah, that industrial metal place is jacking up there prices on metal.
Not to pick on any buddy but do you have a exit plan I have been watching and listening to you since you put the cab on the scraper how much time be for retirement or will your boys take over thanks love your videos
👌🏻🤘🏻🤘🏻
Not an easy undertaking but if it’s not done now it’s hard to park a working machine to do work on them until they just don’t move anymore
afram on loader theeth cables on top of buket
👊🏻
1 good chain and 1 good chain cumalong. Or 2 good chain cumalong at 1 end.
Looks like a lot of work and a couple big migraines.
sore feet so far LOL
@@Jpaydirt I bet being on that concrete, and from climbing up and down on that thing repeatedly.
Honestly, Jeff, how some people have hammered these machines. Rough-arsed operators and rogue mechanics. Talk about disrespect. There should be a penitentiary for them: ten years max for hammering a CAT.
D9 goblins 0, Jeff 1!
It' ll pay out, till then let me know how i can get that song played at 16.50. Sad and lovely, like it!
Jeff with the amount of work needed on this dozer are you still happy you brought it or do you wish you had looked for a different one
it's got a new undercarriage and just needs some overdue care, for what I paid I'm not complaining, I don't want a highdrive and it's tough to find a decent D9H anymore that doesn't need work
Awesome!….why are we doing all this?…I missed the part where you told me the reason?… do you need two D9’s or just one good one?
I want one with a cab, heater and A/C Plus killdozer needs some attention and I can't be down, as soon as I start working on it someone would call and need killdozer, plus a man can't have just one D9 LOL
What kind of time frame are you shooting for Jeff to get it up and running?
next week........................er spring
Rebuild the engine Jeff. Do you know what the cylinder compression is, Main bearings, Hour's on and on etc.....
It ran really good up until the dozer hose blew and tried to burn it up, started really good also
can you run a tap in those holes and try a new bolt and see what happens?
I'll go that way first for sure
Do you have a target date you are working towards to get the D9H completed, Jeff? Or just as and when you can?
Spring with the heat, but it depends on what he finds in the motor and pending work.
realistically next spring
Brian is busy playing with John Deere heads. I just watched his video before yours.👍
well were just going to have to put a stop to that LOL
So that engine block seems to weight 2890 lbs or 1311 kg and a quick look at your crane chart says your good for 4740 lbs @ 45 degrees and 5930 @ 60 degrees both at a 14 ft radius wish I was there to measure it out but with the service Trk parallel to the tracks pick over the side and set it behind the Trk. The crane will be a bit stronger over the rear so pick it over the side and it gets better once you leave it’s perch, I think it can do it, check cable condition if you need to 2 part the line ? And think about added weight on the engine? Just my thoughts, I googled that engine weight not sure how accurate that is, anyway good luck, curious what you guys think.
Book says the way it sits 8,500 lbs
@@Jpaydirt yes that sounds more like it, that 2890 is a bare short block probably, time for something big!
@@Jpaydirthi Jeff, are you going to put a switch blade turbo on her?
yup
@@Jpaydirt oh good, I assume then that the other switch blade installations have been performing well?
:)
Can Scoopy pick it up?
I had a mom joke but erased it LOL scoopy can pick up 21K in gravel.......so yup
Could you rent the rigging from a local crane company?
yes, that's what I did when I rebuilt killdozer
Who is doing the music in the video thanks
will harrison Hundred Watts
Thanks Jeff, I’ve got it in my list now.
Talking about getting the motor out it might be easier to tip it upside down and lift the rest off.
Working on those big bolts will help you sleep !! You are swinging around like a monkey on your jungle gym... Dont get hurt . Hope your young blokes come and give it a go ..
Well, if I have it my way I am hoping no woman finds me at all ! I like being single, free and fixing stuff and getting dirty as I like !
How about a roto phase?
You might as well open it up you might be very unhappy after you dont penny wise and dollar foolish jeff
Thanks!
Gracias 😊