I love how when you load a loose round into the chamber, it makes just a really subtle 'bloop' noise, similar to what you'd get when loading a 40mm grenade into a launcher.
Leverguns 50" wins the internet today for that awesome display.. that is a incredible piece of armament.. kudos for hanging on to that monster.. my shoulder was hurting just watching you...
Thanks Jeremy, makes my teeth fall out just watching. You have completed a dream 50+ years old and furnished information hopefully others can use to convert their own fire breathing bullsnort.
Great Video - I vividly remember reading about this cartridge and being fascinated - I was a teenager from my early Frank C Barnes book of cartridges of the world - very cool.
That's an amazing and frightening amount of recoil! I didn't think that ballistic gel block was ever going to come back down. This video should a get a million views!
This is by far one of your best videos! Very interesting and entertaining to me personally because of my addiction to the world of Lever Action Firearms.
@@cameronholt4431its not ideal but you can source tungsten from tig welding electrodes rather inexpensive. It may not be the purest but it must be true tungsten in order to weld with. Being slim sticks i imagine you could pack a drilled hole very easily and fill with epoxy. Just a thought.
I'm 5'6" and about 130 lbs . Your lever action rifle would knock me off my feet and on my behind but I really enjoyed your video. Thanks from Hammond Louisiana.
Are the shells made from necked down brass 12 gauge shells? The only other referance I have seen on this rifle and caliber, the guy said that's what he used to make bullets with.
Will be looking for some kind of accuracy on that big bad boy. Thinking at 50 yards it would stop a tank. Well ok, a large car. I'm thinking "my" shoulder would be in the next county. As always great video! We folks all look forward to what your cooking up next.
@Leverguns50 nahh...I am cheap old curmudgeon with a lathe and a mill and a history of being a gun plumber. Just never wanted to pony up the cash for an 1887 to hack away at. Just glad someone actually has a working copy and has tried it out ! I am probably set for the remaining few years of my life just dragging my old take down octagon barreled '86 in 45-70 through the woods up here in Alaska, but if I suddenly become wealthy ...........
There was a brief mention of this cartridge in one of the old "Shooting and Fishing" magazines. I'd be very interested in who did the conversion, the bore / groove dimensions, who supplied the reloading dies ( C&H-4D? ), etc. Very Fun! Bravo!
You didn't want a longer barrel? Did the physics of the heavy bullet and coefficient of static friction make that less of a factor? I should look up the cartridge dimensions I guess. It almost sounds like a short chambered 12 gauge, where the neck area replaces the forcing cone. Ed Hubel would have loved this!
That barrel isn't that short. I had one of those chiappa 1887 shotguns like he is holding there, but mine had the longer barrel. I often wished I had the shorter barrel that he is holding. I might be remembering wrong, but I believe it is in the 20 to 24 inch range.
@@fedup3582 He noted that it did not take anything at all for the barrel to heat up noticeably. I think he might be wanting a heavier barrel at least like he said lol.
Bend the Lever swoop forward, replace the stock with a recoil compensating stock, add a rail, convert to smokeless powder, replace the old barrel with a 28 to 32 inch barrel with a 1 in 10 rate of twist. Now that would be a monster.
Really want one after learning of their existence. Sadly virtually none of the originals exist (only a few were ever made) and you’ve got to modify an 1887 as stated. Guess I’ll be buying 2 1887s when I finally get one and keep one original then modify the other one
Thank U for the link to this video. I was interested in this rifle. Wow, no recoil pad? Even though it is a black powder cartridge. Man, awsome! But, it cannot be my cup of the tea.
I had one of those chiappa 1887 shotguns. I liked it a lot. I loaded it with foster slugs and took a whitetail buck, but then it developed feeding issues and I ended up selling it. I found another one I considered buying but I tried it out with snap caps and it wouldn't feed either. What did you do to that one to get it to feed reliably? I would like to have another one with the shorter barrel like yours, but one that would feed decently.
I’m sure you could take it apart and get it to feed perfectly fine, I think most of the feeding issue is these are meant to drop two rounds in for cowboy action shooting, because when you buy them they pacifically want to know if you want to load multiple or just two
Just curious I wonder what it would do to 500 yards black powder load 700 g r a i m all the way to 900 of course if you install a muzzle brake like you did on that 54 lever action and maybe the company could offer a custom stock fit it to you with a good pad I always heard Elmer Keith made his own style of stock
I always wanted that model in 12 gage,even before Ol Arny showed one off in the Terminator franchise. But I love that rifle. It's a beaut for sure.That round should be named the .70 Locomotive. Hits like a freight train coming down hill with no brakes. Or .70 OMG. Because of what you say after it's fired and you feel the recoil. As a Black Powder fan. .44 Colt 1860 Army and .50 Hawken rifle. The thought of what damage and pain experienceing a poorly handled hang fire on the largest paper cartridge and muzzleloading rifles must of Of course I can imagine even metallic black powder cartridges can have them as well. That rifle would brake at the very least dislocate a shoulder. If someone loaded a casing with old powder or defective primer. But dang love that rifle. Thanks for the great video. I'm sorry for the pain you had to have dealt with later that day and the next morning.
@@Leverguns50thanks so much I'm wanting to get into reloading old ammunitions and I'm sorry but I have one more question would loading it with smokeless powder at the same pressures make any difference in ballistic performance or fps and if not is there any real advantage to it or are you just better off all the way around using black powder
@@johngibson7307you’d be using roughly 1/3rd as much smokeless powder. There would be tons of air space in a huge case like that, so I’ll bet black powder would be more consistent than smokeless.
This strongly reminds me of Van Pelt's gun in Jumanji. It was a mag-fed Model 1887--for creative reason, I guess. Upon closer look during the gun store scene, the brass case is just too similar.
First, thank you for making this video. I had never seen a 70 caliber rifle before, and to see one being fired repeatedly was very entertaining. How was your shoulder after all of that rapid firing? Second, I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I think the order of what you showed could be changed to have more continuity of what you were trying to get across, which was how powerful this rifle is. These are my suggestions, I'm certainly not trying to tell you how to film your videos: 1. At about 3:14, you showed the close-up of the rifle, showing the wood grain and how nice this rifle looks. This is how I would have started the video. Then go into the ammunition, showing the size of the slugs and talk about the specs. 2. After talking about the rifle and the ammunition, then you can show the targets you will be shooting, explaining how many water bottles you will be shooting through, and how you have the wet pants folded up as a back stop. 3. Up to the 5:30 point of the video, there was a lot of shooting shown already, but the only target we really saw was a watermelon exploding. It would be better to show the individual targets you will be shooting, then show you shooting them, and show the slow-motion video of what happens when they are hit with the 70 cal round. Something for the shooting part of the video I thought you should look at. At about 10:51, you were shooting the metal plates, showing how much smoke there was, which actually made you cough. Then at about 11:15, you showed the slugs and talked about how they mushroomed out. A about 11:51, the same footage was shown again of you shooting the metal plates and you coughing from the smoke. You can edit out the second part at 11:51. The last thing (I'm really not trying to be difficult), at about 13:39, the descriptions and website information are all in reverse on screen, making it difficult to read. Thank you, again, and I hope you make more of these types of videos. Very interesting to watch.
I went and checked, and it is backwards like you said, you’re the only one that mentioned that and it shouldn’t of been backwards because it didn’t start out that way, I appreciate your input and will try to do better
Just when I was thinking you were going to have to start asking museums to lend you antique one off, limited production, or even experimental (in their day) BP rifles and/or shotguns for use in your videos you come up with the .70-150 in a modern production rifle. It did get me to thinking that if I lived in a part of the country where large, furry critters with lots of teeth, claws, and poor attitudes lurked about, I would not be averse to having just such a rifle close to hand.
What year did Winchester make the original ones. They were probably went to Africa. For the big critters.awsome video. God bless. You are one tough dude.i have a 405. Thats about i can stand to fire at targets.😊
I love lever action guns but I don't think I would shoot that very much. Lol both shoulders are tore up and I don't like my 12 gauge sluggun no more lol. Very beautiful and powerful lever gun sir!
Absolutely love your videos! Been a subscriber for quite some time. Planning on purchasing an 1886 in 45-70, color case hardened and with an octagon barrel. Opinions on Uberti vs. Winchester for new production?
They’re pretty similarly priced, but if you’re going to hot load it, I would get the Winchester after 23 years of hot loading this 50-110 is still holding up good, whatever type of metal, the Japanese are using, it makes a really strong gun, not saying the Italian versions aren’t good I just don’t know about them how good they are for lack of experience with one, Wayne Chapman has one and he loads pretty hot
@Leverguns50 Thanks for your input! I have been looking at the Winchester for a while, and accidentally ran across the Uberti. I will take your coveted advice and go with the Winchester.😊
That action is more or less a rolling block very stout action . After watching your video if you make one , build yours on a 10 gauge action . with a weight of 13-16 pounds
Oh my goodness! If you order one for yourself, what about getting the heavy barrel a bit longer, too? That way you can burn a little more powder, create a little more velocity, and end up punishing your shoulder as much as you do with the light version. Seriously, I hope you are putting plenty of padding inside your clothes. I love this channel, and don't want you to get hurt.
Excuse me sir, range rules prohibit firing a field artillery piece from the shoulder. That needs to be mounted on a wheeled carriage or you'll have to leave. Just kidding, I love that thing! Beautiful color case hardening, too. Never heard of it before but I really want one now. If I get one, I'd prefer a 26 inch barrel with full length magazine tube.
How much weight do you put in the TKO, Jeremy? In doing a little research, seems there's a couple other values that attempt to factor load power. Guns & Shooting Online KPS and Hornady HITS. Heard of them? That cartridge almost feels like a converted 12 gauge casing. Hahaha If you were going to have one of these made with a heavy barrel, probably also a candidate for a 4-port muzzle brake.
I personally use a modified ballistic limit equation to solve for penetration instead of velocity, and I divide the kinetic energy in ft-lbs by 1/25th of an inch of that armor, or energy in Joules by a mm of that armor. I feel that’s got some validity to it, since I have a steel target that was penetrated more deeply by .223, but when I shot it with a .500 S&W Magnum pistol, while it still dented the target, it dented that less and it more just shoved the assembly backward into the snow. TKO only shows half of what a cartridge is capable of doing to a target, and even then sounds more like an arbitrary number than anything grounded by example, which is what I hope my ft-lbs/1/25th inch RHA or Joules/mmRHA figures would solve.
@@camarokidbb4347 Garrett Cartridges has an interesting article on their website about ultra-hardcast .45-70 compared to .458 magnums (.458 Win Mag, .458 Lott, etc). Their claim is that due to reduced velocity upon impact, their .45-70 load out penetrates the magnums, all other factors equal. Due to a lesser understood or studied phenomenon of how velocity relates to reduced penetration using non-expanding projectiles.
I love how when you load a loose round into the chamber, it makes just a really subtle 'bloop' noise, similar to what you'd get when loading a 40mm grenade into a launcher.
Cool, isn’t it. Thank you
Holy crap! That thing walked you right out of the frame when you rapid fire it. You sir are a brave man. Excellent video!!
Thank you
This gun lets you fire, pop smoke and displace to a new position, all with a single button press
Leverguns50 moves to the head of the class tonight.that gun is(and i say this with admiration), absolutely ridiculous.i love it!
Thank you
Leverguns 50" wins the internet today for that awesome display.. that is a incredible piece of armament.. kudos for hanging on to that monster.. my shoulder was hurting just watching you...
Impressive!! ouch!
Thank you
Thanks Jeremy, makes my teeth fall out just watching. You have completed a dream 50+ years old and furnished information hopefully others can use to convert their own fire breathing bullsnort.
You’re welcome. I’m glad to do it.
I've never seen a gel block launched into low earth orbit before. That was impressive. Better your shoulder than mine.
Thank you
Great Video - I vividly remember reading about this cartridge and being fascinated - I was a teenager from my early Frank C Barnes book of cartridges of the world - very cool.
I remember seeing something like that in “cartridges of the world” when I was a kid.
I had totally forgotten about it until you made this video.
Thank you
That's an amazing and frightening amount of recoil! I didn't think that ballistic gel block was ever going to come back down. This video should a get a million views!
Thank you
It did look like the gel block was going to orbit earth 🌎 for a few rotations lol
This is by far one of your best videos! Very interesting and entertaining to me personally because of my addiction to the world of Lever Action Firearms.
Thank you
I’ve never heard of the 70-150. Thanks for sharing
No problem 👍
JOEl from clear ballistics thank you brother. I enjoy Lever gun videos.
I have a 1901 and i make my own buckshot. I appreciate what you have done here. 3 thumbs up!
Thank you so much
Just a suggestion. To help the recoil , you can also add some lead weight to the rear of the stock of it is thick enough.
I’ve seen something similar but it wasn’t lead that they used it was tungsten couldn’t believe they could afford that lol
@@cameronholt4431its not ideal but you can source tungsten from tig welding electrodes rather inexpensive. It may not be the purest but it must be true tungsten in order to weld with. Being slim sticks i imagine you could pack a drilled hole very easily and fill with epoxy. Just a thought.
I'm 5'6" and about 130 lbs . Your lever action rifle would knock me off my feet and on my behind but I really enjoyed your video. Thanks from Hammond Louisiana.
Well, thank you for watching from us here at LeverGuns 50 here in Alabama
I can already see Scott from Kentucky Ballistics drooling over this big boy😂
😂😂😂
That’s a total monster
Thank you
I have a reproduction 1887 12 gauge I was going to sell. But now. I think I have found my dream gun build. That is awesome !!!
Let me know how it goes
Dang. That is a really cool old gun. Hadn't heard about it before. Great video. Each shot you were further off the screen. What a beast.
Thank you
Are the shells made from necked down brass 12 gauge shells? The only other referance I have seen on this rifle and caliber, the guy said that's what he used to make bullets with.
Yes they are
That is nice. The recoil on that thing has to be intense. Anything that would be on the receiving end would definitely be toast. Amazing rifle.
Thank you
Will be looking for some kind of accuracy on that big bad boy. Thinking at 50 yards it would stop a tank. Well ok, a large car. I'm thinking "my" shoulder would be in the next county. As always great video! We folks all look forward to what your cooking up next.
You Sir, are a recoil control beast. Holy cow!
Wow, thanks!
Exquisite! Absolute 4 bore power in a classic Spencer action!
Thank you
Finally, i have been wanting to do this forever. Ever since i discover the the old winchester cartridge board with that load i have wanted to do this.
Can you contact LROMANO RIFLE CO
THE ALAMO GUN SHOP i’m sure he can fix you up
@Leverguns50 nahh...I am cheap old curmudgeon with a lathe and a mill and a history of being a gun plumber. Just never wanted to pony up the cash for an 1887 to hack away at. Just glad someone actually has a working copy and has tried it out ! I am probably set for the remaining few years of my life just dragging my old take down octagon barreled '86 in 45-70 through the woods up here in Alaska, but if I suddenly become wealthy ...........
I'm pretty sure that's the caliber that made the dinosaurs go extinct, not an asteroid 🤣🤣🤣
That’s a good one 👍😂
@@Leverguns50>>> They could have used at least one of these in *JURASSIC PARK.* 😉
There was a brief mention of this cartridge in one of the old "Shooting and Fishing" magazines. I'd be very interested in who did the conversion, the bore / groove dimensions, who supplied the reloading dies ( C&H-4D? ), etc. Very Fun! Bravo!
It uses a .705 bullet And all the other information is in the video this is who we got to make this reproduction L.ROMANO RIFLE CO
THE ALAMO GUN SHOP
Larry Romano; of course! He's a talent.@@Leverguns50
You didn't want a longer barrel? Did the physics of the heavy bullet and coefficient of static friction make that less of a factor? I should look up the cartridge dimensions I guess. It almost sounds like a short chambered 12 gauge, where the neck area replaces the forcing cone. Ed Hubel would have loved this!
That barrel isn't that short. I had one of those chiappa 1887 shotguns like he is holding there, but mine had the longer barrel. I often wished I had the shorter barrel that he is holding. I might be remembering wrong, but I believe it is in the 20 to 24 inch range.
Personally, I like carbines. Much more practical and easy to maneuver.
@@fedup3582 He noted that it did not take anything at all for the barrel to heat up noticeably. I think he might be wanting a heavier barrel at least like he said lol.
If I get one made, it’s gonna have a 26 inch barrel on it, I think that’ll get me a lot better velocity with the powder
Bend the Lever swoop forward, replace the stock with a recoil compensating stock, add a rail, convert to smokeless powder, replace the old barrel with a 28 to 32 inch barrel with a 1 in 10 rate of twist. Now that would be a monster.
Yeah
That's pretty awesome, Mr. Leverguns. Thanks for showing it to us.
Thanks for watching!
That is a mighty powerful round 💥💥💥💥....Thanks my friend 👍
Old F-4 Shoe
Thank you
I flinch like a little girl just watching you shoot that thing. Very cool content
It’s okay. Thank you
Sir, that recoil looks fierce. What a beast.
It was! But that’s okay
Very cool video! Thanks for weathering that recoil for us.
Any time!
Reason why it was not developed further was Smokeless Powders, Nitro Express and small bores.,Samuel Baker called .577 small bores btw.
Thank you
I wonder if Scott from Kentucky ballistics has seen this yet?
If he did, he’s probably drooling
I can not believe it got get one of those and load data,,Thanks
Glad I could help
One of the classiest Cannons I have seen online 👍
Thank you
That is a Behemoth of a round !!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you
Perfect home defense round!
Yes thank you
Scott from Kentucky Ballistics needs one of these!
He’ll probably get one too
Really want one after learning of their existence. Sadly virtually none of the originals exist (only a few were ever made) and you’ve got to modify an 1887 as stated. Guess I’ll be buying 2 1887s when I finally get one and keep one original then modify the other one
Let me know if you have any problems
That is insane and absolutely crazy I'm surprised that barrel did not burst apart along with the whole gun holy crap that is a big round
Thank you
Hope you try a Paradox or Explora one time , not many pictures or episodes of their expanded bullets.
Thank U for the link to this video. I was interested in this rifle. Wow, no recoil pad? Even though it is a black powder cartridge. Man, awsome! But, it cannot be my cup of the tea.
I had one of those chiappa 1887 shotguns. I liked it a lot. I loaded it with foster slugs and took a whitetail buck, but then it developed feeding issues and I ended up selling it. I found another one I considered buying but I tried it out with snap caps and it wouldn't feed either. What did you do to that one to get it to feed reliably? I would like to have another one with the shorter barrel like yours, but one that would feed decently.
I’m sure you could take it apart and get it to feed perfectly fine, I think most of the feeding issue is these are meant to drop two rounds in for cowboy action shooting, because when you buy them they pacifically want to know if you want to load multiple or just two
Just curious I wonder what it would do to 500 yards black powder load 700 g r a i m all the way to 900 of course if you install a muzzle brake like you did on that 54 lever action and maybe the company could offer a custom stock fit it to you with a good pad I always heard Elmer Keith made his own style of stock
Kentucky ballistics needs to do a feature here.
Yeah
Wow. That thing is totally awesome. I’m especially a fan of the 87 and 1901 shotguns.
They are super cool, i’m glad you enjoyed the video
I would love that 70-150 bud. I wouldn’t even feel underpowered if dinosaurs were still around. 👍👍👍
You need to get one just like it
@@Leverguns50 sure do. Glad you made this video partner.
I always wanted that model in 12 gage,even before Ol Arny showed one off in the Terminator franchise. But I love that rifle. It's a beaut for sure.That round should be named the .70 Locomotive. Hits like a freight train coming down hill with no brakes. Or .70 OMG. Because of what you say after it's fired and you feel the recoil. As a Black Powder fan. .44 Colt 1860 Army and .50 Hawken rifle. The thought of what damage and pain experienceing a poorly handled hang fire on the largest paper cartridge and muzzleloading rifles must of Of course I can imagine even metallic black powder cartridges can have them as well. That rifle would brake at the very least dislocate a shoulder. If someone loaded a casing with old powder or defective primer. But dang love that rifle. Thanks for the great video. I'm sorry for the pain you had to have dealt with later that day and the next morning.
my shoulder hurts watching this))
After 20 shots, my shoulder was sore, it’s good now though
Great video. I think you single handedly renewed interest in lever action rifles. How much does the conversion cost.
I’m not exactly sure of the price, but you can contact ‡ROMANO RIFLE CO
THE A AMO GUN SHOP and find out
Hey question here is it possible to load one of those cartridges with smokeless powder in that levergun or would the pressures be to much
Yes, they can be loaded with smokeless powder as long as you keep the pressures at the same level
@@Leverguns50thanks so much I'm wanting to get into reloading old ammunitions and I'm sorry but I have one more question would loading it with smokeless powder at the same pressures make any difference in ballistic performance or fps and if not is there any real advantage to it or are you just better off all the way around using black powder
@@johngibson7307you’d be using roughly 1/3rd as much smokeless powder. There would be tons of air space in a huge case like that, so I’ll bet black powder would be more consistent than smokeless.
@@66smithra that's what I was figuring cause that's what I see everyone who is doing this kinda thing using black powder
Ill repeat my comment from the short.
How does kentucky ballistics not already have one of these!?
First time I have seen you retreat with every shot. Ended up out of frame.
This strongly reminds me of Van Pelt's gun in Jumanji. It was a mag-fed Model 1887--for creative reason, I guess. Upon closer look during the gun store scene, the brass case is just too similar.
my man handles that shoulder cannon like an absolute cowboy
Thank you
First, thank you for making this video. I had never seen a 70 caliber rifle before, and to see one being fired repeatedly was very entertaining. How was your shoulder after all of that rapid firing?
Second, I hope you don't take this the wrong way, but I think the order of what you showed could be changed to have more continuity of what you were trying to get across, which was how powerful this rifle is. These are my suggestions, I'm certainly not trying to tell you how to film your videos:
1. At about 3:14, you showed the close-up of the rifle, showing the wood grain and how nice this rifle looks. This is how I would have started the video. Then go into the ammunition, showing the size of the slugs and talk about the specs.
2. After talking about the rifle and the ammunition, then you can show the targets you will be shooting, explaining how many water bottles you will be shooting through, and how you have the wet pants folded up as a back stop.
3. Up to the 5:30 point of the video, there was a lot of shooting shown already, but the only target we really saw was a watermelon exploding. It would be better to show the individual targets you will be shooting, then show you shooting them, and show the slow-motion video of what happens when they are hit with the 70 cal round.
Something for the shooting part of the video I thought you should look at. At about 10:51, you were shooting the metal plates, showing how much smoke there was, which actually made you cough. Then at about 11:15, you showed the slugs and talked about how they mushroomed out. A about 11:51, the same footage was shown again of you shooting the metal plates and you coughing from the smoke. You can edit out the second part at 11:51.
The last thing (I'm really not trying to be difficult), at about 13:39, the descriptions and website information are all in reverse on screen, making it difficult to read.
Thank you, again, and I hope you make more of these types of videos. Very interesting to watch.
I went and checked, and it is backwards like you said, you’re the only one that mentioned that and it shouldn’t of been backwards because it didn’t start out that way, I appreciate your input and will try to do better
@@Leverguns50You're welcome. Like I said, these were suggestions I thought of as I watched. And great job on firing that beast!
Ooohhhh my,I pray for the privilege to shoot this treasure,thank you for sharing this beauty,loved the wet pants,great idea😊
I pray one day you’ll have that privilege. Thank you
Not only is the bullet the shape of a tire, it has the chamber pressure of a flat one too
Thank you
Have you ever thought about replacing the barrel with something longer with a closer rifling
The rifling seems good but if I get one made, it’s gonna have at least a 26” and a heavy barrel at that
Unbelievable..
I'm headed down to the Kroger to purchase one right now!
Probably need to contact this guy to get one
L.ROMANO RIFLE CO
THE ALAMO GUN SHOP
I would imagine that the hydraulic shock on this round is absolutely devastating!
I have the winchester book and enjoyed reading About this load. I have an original 1887 and it shoots slugs nicely, this would be better :)
Thank you
Just when I was thinking you were going to have to start asking museums to lend you antique one off, limited production, or even experimental (in their day) BP rifles and/or shotguns for use in your videos you come up with the .70-150 in a modern production rifle. It did get me to thinking that if I lived in a part of the country where large, furry critters with lots of teeth, claws, and poor attitudes lurked about, I would not be averse to having just such a rifle close to hand.
Interesting & informative! As always also fun to watch the gelatin dance!
Thank you
My friend,love this channel, beautiful guns, thank you
You are welcome 👍👍👍👍👍👍
Hallelujah, at last someone who pronounces Chiappa properly.👌🖖👍
What year did Winchester make the original ones. They were probably went to Africa. For the big critters.awsome video. God bless. You are one tough dude.i have a 405. Thats about i can stand to fire at targets.😊
According to the records I see about 1887, 1888
Awesome levergun! Are those 12ga. brass necked down? And what alloy are those solids? They expanded perfectly!
They’re really soft lead not pure lead, but soft, yes, it’s 12 gauge brass nicked down
*Incredible!...* 💪
I would love to see you and Kentucky Ballistics do a collab.
Me too
I love lever action guns but I don't think I would shoot that very much. Lol both shoulders are tore up and I don't like my 12 gauge sluggun no more lol. Very beautiful and powerful lever gun sir!
Thanks for watching
Absolutely love your videos! Been a subscriber for quite some time. Planning on purchasing an 1886 in 45-70, color case hardened and with an octagon barrel. Opinions on Uberti vs. Winchester for new production?
They’re pretty similarly priced, but if you’re going to hot load it, I would get the Winchester after 23 years of hot loading this 50-110 is still holding up good, whatever type of metal, the Japanese are using, it makes a really strong gun, not saying the Italian versions aren’t good I just don’t know about them how good they are for lack of experience with one, Wayne Chapman has one and he loads pretty hot
@Leverguns50 Thanks for your input! I have been looking at the Winchester for a while, and accidentally ran across the Uberti. I will take your coveted advice and go with the Winchester.😊
Good Gawd! @ 2:52 That slowmow shot looked like your back shoulder blade popped out for a sec. And no shock absorb pad on the but?
Who makes the cases for this caliber?
Awsome sir this was great
Thank you
That action is more or less a rolling block very stout action . After watching your video if you make one , build yours on a 10 gauge action . with a weight of 13-16 pounds
Sounds like a good idea
How do you have a shoulder left after this video?
How many rounds fit in the magazine tube?
5 one in the receiver, and one in the chamber equals a total of seven rounds
@Leverguns50 thanks for the reply, I love these lever action elephant rifles
wow, a "repeating portable cannon", this is a gun for a cthulhu mythos detective
Thank you
Any idea how many PSI these rounds are pushing?
According to coyote cap, which made some summer to this, the gun was rated for 44,000 psi although I don’t plan to push anywhere near that
@@Leverguns50 Very impressive! I don't think you even could reach 44k PSI with black powder
I've got to get one of these! Thank you for this video! 🇺🇸
L.ROMANO RIFLE CO
THE AL AMO GUN SHOP
Excellent teaching aid to cure flinch.
Oh my goodness! If you order one for yourself, what about getting the heavy barrel a bit longer, too? That way you can burn a little more powder, create a little more velocity, and end up punishing your shoulder as much as you do with the light version. Seriously, I hope you are putting plenty of padding inside your clothes. I love this channel, and don't want you to get hurt.
Holy Smokes!... I definetly WOULD NOT want to be on the "Business End" of that thing!... Sheeeeew!... Haha!... EXCELLENT!!....
Thank you
Excuse me sir, range rules prohibit firing a field artillery piece from the shoulder. That needs to be mounted on a wheeled carriage or you'll have to leave.
Just kidding, I love that thing! Beautiful color case hardening, too. Never heard of it before but I really want one now. If I get one, I'd prefer a 26 inch barrel with full length magazine tube.
What have you done?? I like it!
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Is Larry Ramano still in business? I thought he closed down his shop.
Yeah, cause that’s where we got it
That is good to know, Larry built me a rolling block sporting rifle in 45-70 back in 1993.
Awesome. What type of lead were you using? Was it hardened any?
Pure lead
Hey can you still shoot 12 gauge shorts?👍🏽😀❤️🇺🇸
No, there’s no way that 12 gauge would fit in there with that neck down down chamber +12 gauge is 72 caliber
Nice weapon. What is the lifespan of that Of that gun and it's adorability. Need this on my bucket list.
Probably a couple hundred years
What's the parent cartridge, 12 gauge brass? Thanks.
Repair cartridge is 12 gauge neck down to 70 caliber
My shoulder couldn’t take that, thats some recoil!!!
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How much weight do you put in the TKO, Jeremy?
In doing a little research, seems there's a couple other values that attempt to factor load power. Guns & Shooting Online KPS and Hornady HITS. Heard of them?
That cartridge almost feels like a converted 12 gauge casing. Hahaha
If you were going to have one of these made with a heavy barrel, probably also a candidate for a 4-port muzzle brake.
I personally use a modified ballistic limit equation to solve for penetration instead of velocity, and I divide the kinetic energy in ft-lbs by 1/25th of an inch of that armor, or energy in Joules by a mm of that armor.
I feel that’s got some validity to it, since I have a steel target that was penetrated more deeply by .223, but when I shot it with a .500 S&W Magnum pistol, while it still dented the target, it dented that less and it more just shoved the assembly backward into the snow.
TKO only shows half of what a cartridge is capable of doing to a target, and even then sounds more like an arbitrary number than anything grounded by example, which is what I hope my ft-lbs/1/25th inch RHA or Joules/mmRHA figures would solve.
@@camarokidbb4347 Garrett Cartridges has an interesting article on their website about ultra-hardcast .45-70 compared to .458 magnums (.458 Win Mag, .458 Lott, etc). Their claim is that due to reduced velocity upon impact, their .45-70 load out penetrates the magnums, all other factors equal. Due to a lesser understood or studied phenomenon of how velocity relates to reduced penetration using non-expanding projectiles.
A true work of art
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I thought Larry had retired? Or did he only stop manufacturing while continuing to do gunsmithing?
That thing is insane..you missed that watermelon by 2 feet but it still exploded to kingdom come just out of respect..lol.
That’s a good one
Did it have feeding problems when you were rapid firing?
I think I just slightly short stroked it, need to practice a little more