Size Matters: Four BIG Lever Guns with the RARE .50 Alaskan!
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- Опубликовано: 29 июл 2024
- Take a look at these four massive lever guns, acquired by Murphy’s.
In this video, we compare the power of the following:
* 45-70
* 450 Marlin
* 500 S&W
* 50 Alaskan
From the Hollywood classic Marlin 1895 45-70 to the raw power of the Turnbull Thumper in 50 Alaskan.
We also highlight the longest produced firearm in history, the Winchester 94 in 450 Marlin, and a lever gun made specifically to handle the 500 Smith and Wesson, Big Horn Armory’s Model 89 Spike Driver!
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I shoot a Marlin 1895 Guide Gun in .450 Marlin. My ammo is the LeverEvolution 325 gr.. I also have the large loop lever, but I use a ghost ring site. I hunt in heavy cover and swamps in northern Maine. The gun is a beast. When you hit something it goes down, love that gun.
Being 1 state over I do the same type of hunting. Though I use different ammo the results are the same.
Love my Marlin in 45-70. 405SP puts everything down with one shot. Wish these newer rifles came with ladder sights like the older rifles had.
I am amazed how relevant the 45-70 still is in modern day.
It does have it's purposes still within its limitations.
45-70G is the only "Government" I trust.😁
@@dr.burtgummerfan439 🤣
It's not relevant there are better choices ballistically speaking for every purpose except for one. Putting a smile on your face.
@@soreloser6018 Up to 100 yards it works well on most big game. And yes big smiles
Marlin 45-70 🤩
I want the Winchester 94 the most and the Turnbull in 50 Alaskan. And a 50 Alaskan revolver I'm waiting on a 500 bushwacker bfr conversion right now.
That 50 Alaska was brutal
I bet those rounds cost over $10 each, lol.
50 Alaskan, learned something new today :D
I’ll stick with my Guide Gun in 45/70……because I can find ammo pretty much anywhere I hunt. 🫡
Love my Guide Gun in 45/70. Ive taken many Deer with it. Always a very short tracking job!
When he fires the 50 and then pulls on the lever to extract the round there should be a cash register sound given the expense involved in shooting those rounds. 😂😂
Sounds just like the old antique cash registers you had to pull the handle forward and down. We had one like that in our family owned and operated country grocery store.
Same with the 450 Marlin, those are about $9 each.
Awesome video and a good bit of history with each one!
Love that .50 Alaskan!
You know that the 45/70 is a great gun the longer the barrel the faster it goes mine has a 26 inch barrel.
I have and H&R single shot, breech loader with 32 inch barrel . . . you are correct
Nice content, nice technique, nice combination of big bore ctgs/rifles.
Keep upthe good work.
DOUG out
Like the video I have used the 45/70 for yrs for hunting and also the 458 socom as well. Love big bore rounds .
As an Alaskan I have to show some love. Subbed too!
Beautiful rifle the 45 - 70 Marlin, I had 3 of them 15 years ago. Great video, and God bless brother!
I appreciate the descriptive information you give about each cartridge great way to produce your content I haven’t watched many other content creators or any I can name off top who create content like you. LOVE IT!!!
I always liked the .45-70 in a strong single shot like a ruger no1 or H&R handi rifle. They can take some seriously hopped up loads that will get a 300gr barnes bullet out of the muzzle at around 2500fps
.450 marlin for starters. .50 Alaskan for the end game! 😂😂😂😂❤ !
Great video. Nice work Patrick and JD 😎
That Winchester 94 is awesome. I have one in 444
Me too. Love lovers. Got one in .375 Winchester too..along with others
I'll add in the 356 Winchester . . .
@@leebaker2588 nice !
I had one it was a model marlin444 in 444marlin wish I still had to it
@@warrengreen3217 been down that road . . .
Glad I found you channel Murphy, the Big Horn for me
You could use a little more eye relief with that first scoped rifle - ouch.
There is something like a 450 Alaska lever action..A rifle that is never seen on a used gun rack at any time of the year in Alaska..It is one of the best Alaska rifles.
348 case with .458 bullet is 450 Alaskan.
The .450 Alaskan was developed on the Winchester Model 1886 and later the model 71 rifles by Harold Johnson of Cooper Landing, AK. Johnson later sold his gunsmithing business to William Fuller. Fuller developed the .50 Alaskan. The .450 Alaskan rifles built by Johnson were called Johnson Kenai Rifles. They used Buhmiller barrels.
I see you left out the Winchester 1886 which is capable of shooting the biggest lever gun cartridge ever made, the 50/110. I have two 1886s, one in 45/100 and another in 50/110. Loaded with the right powder and bullet they can reach speeds upwards of 2500fps and 3000ft/lb of muzzle energy, a bit more if you take it to the limit, which I have never done.
That 50-110 is fixing to have some stout competition. It's out in the BFR Revolver it's called the 500 Bushwhacker and the beast of all handguns and BFR Magnum Research is talking to Big Horn Armory seeing if they will make a lever action rifle for the round. BHR makes the 500 S&W Spike Driver now hopefully they will make one so I can purchase one. I'd love to have one like yours that 50-110 that's everyone's Holy Grail rifle. You are fortunate enough to own two holy grail guns the 50-110 and 45-100. You ever need anyone to take them off of your hands ✋️ I'm down.
The .450 Marlin casing is derived from the .458 Winchester magnum, no sourcing from the .45-70 Gov't casing.
The Winchester 1886 platform was once chambered for .50-110 Win. You can still get brass from Starline for .50-110 and barrels made to adapt to the current production 1886 in .45-90. With a well developed load from .50-110 in smokeless powder, you can achieve .458 Lott power. Even up to 6400 ft-lb.
The 450 Marlin has nothing in common with the 458-win mag and you can't even take a 458-win mag case then changes it into a 450 Marlin.
You are sure doing your best to be another PUNK ASS RUclips groupie liar.
I am an advanced reloader of wildcat cartridges.
The belt dimensions of the .450 Marlin are different from the H&H and its derivatives. Cases cannot be formed from the belted magnums.
@@Rivercane22 While that is true, it was derived from the .458 Win Mag, not the .45-70 Gov't. Further modifications may be required if you wish to repurpose cases.
@@Rivercane22 You are a RUclips fraud like to many that post all these liars garage videos spoofing everyone to believe you are some kind of world-renowned expert.
Great video
Keep the videos coming. Off to a great start
That browning is beautifully made!!!!i want one....that design anyway!!!
Awesome video and a good bit of history with each one!. Nice video! Winchester still in production?.
You should have got a 50-1 10 WCAF from Turnbull if you wanted the biggest and baddest lever action
I love every lever gun you have here, but I spent the majority of my life in Alaska and proudly what lever my father bought around 1968 is my Winchester model 71 converted to the .450 alaskan, i can find a video here on you tube of anyone shooting or talking about this amazing rifle and round, my 71 was converted in coopers bay Alaska by Harold Johnson, all the lever guns you are shooting are beautiful and plenty of rifle for alaska, but there is something magical about my Winchester 71, i do own a Winchester 71 deluxe in .348 as well, if ya ever get the opportunity to do a video on the .450 please do, and yes the .450 alaskan and .50 alaskan are absolutely thumpers, i buy amm from reeds ammo and research and have had absolutely no issues with thier loads and i do reload as well thank you for your video
You chambered it like you scared of it 😅
YA BABY got to get one
An excellente video and very beautiful rifles. The .44Mag is for mice .
Try my 4590 500 grain hard cast at 1920 fps
I have a Marlin 1895 in 45-70 with a 26 inch barrel and 9 round tube. It's my favorite gun when it comes to shooting feral pigs. Especially with 430 grain hardcast Buffalo bore ammo. Not a single hog has managed to run after being hit by one of those. They all dropped where they stood.
Thought I read before there are 50-90 and up cartridges along with the 45-70 I'd like to see.
Love my Cimarron 1876 Centennial 50-95 Winchester. I push .510” Barnes 450gr SP at right at 1600 fps out of it 28” barrel. Not bad for the old round plus it holds 13 rounds 👍🏻
The 2016 Remington made Marlin 1895 CB 45-70 Is one of the finest Marlin lever guns you can own!! 18.5 inch octagonal barrel, dark American Walnut forearm and butt stocks, semi buckhorn rear and gold bead front sights, this Marlin lever gun cannot be matched by any other in all the categories that matter. This model made by Remington is extremely accurate, the same accuracy as my Remington 1968 BDL 30-06 700. Remington as far as I am concerned is the best of the best when it comes to any rifle build!! Shooting is believing, I believe!!
LOL! PL. That's my tree I park under!
Love my levers
How come i cannot find "Turnbull Manufactuing" when i look it up on the internet? Would like to see that .50 Alaskan?
yep,, thats what she said,,,
Bought a Henry in 45-70. Only problem I have now is the gun is so pretty. I find myself babying it. I guess I’ll stick to abusing my tacticool rifles and save the Henry for special occasions.
Beautiful lever guns. But why are they so short in length?
Thumper kick harder than a 10 gauge 3.5 ?
you left out the BEST browning lever action.
I have a stainless 450 marlin JM long barrel, but I have never shot it, lol.
I bet your shoulder was telling you all about it THE next day
I believe the 45-70 is superior to the .450 Marlin chambering. Shoot one of the HSM RNFP 430 grain 45-70 rounds and you will know what I mean. Or try one of the Grizzly 460 grain rounds of 45-70.
Lever king
Speaking of dinosaurs....thank you Patrick for bringing the shop into the 21st century and out of the Dinosaur age! Well done. Looking forward to more content.. don't forget your roots though brother
Nice video! Winchester still in production?
Bought by FN 10 years ago
Some say FN has done good w Winchester some say it’s a better rifle to me it doesn’t matter any more if I buy European I’ll get a tikka or sako cz in 22 s
My Winchesters are the 9422m and m70 re barrel in 300 wsm only parts original is the action and bottom metal
Ruger and savage is it I like to see savage bring back the 99 I don’t think cost is a big deal people will pay for the 99 2 k plus just to have one again if done right
Even my little .357 marlin does the job on deer and coyotes here in Indiana.
Nice video. I like the enthusiasm but … the post WWII Marlin ‘1895’ is actually a Marlin 336 with a bigger barrel.
You forgot the most powerful level action rifles, which has 6,000 foot pounds of energy (8,100 J ), the winchester 1886 chambered in the 50-110 WCF (50-110-450 WCF)
We didn't have one on hand at that time.
@MurphysGuns you can get a replica or have one recalibrate for the 50-110 at
Turnbull Mfg. Model 1886
bonjour magnifique vidéo de présentation de ces différents modèles de winchester. les ingénieurs civiles des différentes fabriquant d'armes. conçoivent des winchester magnifique leur travail magnifique bravo a ses ingénieurs us ou autres selon ou est installer l'usine d'ingénierie et de conception et réalisation cordialement
You really need to handload the 500 S&W to make a fair comparison. Nobody factory loads the 500 S&W to anywhere near it's full potential because it would be to difficult to extract several spent cases at once fro a double action revolver. Loaded to it's potential it matches the 50-120 from the model 89.
50 Alaskan is a 50-90 best I remember. Turnbull 50-110 even more power like mentioned earlier. Or get a Shiloh Sharps 50-140!! Dwarfs a 45/70.
You forgot about the 458 WWG over 3000 fps😁
All of these lever guns on the table are weak and short-range cartridges that lose energy very quietly.
As an Alaskan Hunting guide since 1989 rarely have I seen a 45-70 being used in Alaska because for large and dangerous bears there is far superior rifle cartridges to be used when your life is on the line against large bears that mean to kill you.
I have been using a Winchester Mod - 70 in 338 win mag loaded with 225 grain Barns TSX bullets and a CZ 550 in 9.3x62 Mauser loaded with the 286 grain Barns TSX bullets to match the commercial loads of the 375 H&H magnum.
My next hunts I will be using my AR 10 I have chambered a Pac Nor super match barrel in 375 - 300 WSM so I am able to get semi auto rifle in the magnum 375 - 300 WSM cartridge for fast cycling of all cartridges when speed is a must have.
I build to sell AR 10 uppers in all of the commercial WSM cartridges and in WSM wildcat cartridges.
The largest is a 458 WSM AR 10 upper.
@@lurebenson7722 I don't doubt what you say. However, the .45-70 is no pushover and with correct loads (the key), it's about as good as anything and as handy as anything up close for bear defense (not as a main hunting choice). There are .458 diameter bullets for the .45-70 that penetrate beyond belief and you don't need to spit a piece of lead at the speed of light to get the job done. No bear can run faster than even a .22 short rimfire. Crushing tissue, deep penetration, and a decent sized hole is all that is necessary to get the job done on any animal, regardless of how fearful and imposing that animal is. There's bigger and badder cartridges yes, but get something loaded stoutly and .45-70 will penetrate through large sized maple trees. Besides, large high pressure magnums aren't something a lot of people can handle, shoot well, and achieve the sort of followup-shots like a lever action can deliver. Semi-autos take some tuning to function correctly and they are prone to difficulties.
.338 magnums, the .375 H&H, even some speedy .30 cal stuff is fine. But a .458 sized hole and a 500gr hunk of crushing hardcast lead isn't going to stop at a couple of bones.
@@exothermal.sprocket You believe you know far more than I do, and you believe these cheap crap lead bullets are some kinds of never fail Mirical bullets far superior to the Barns TSX bullets of Hornaday GMX and CX and now all the other brains of copper expanding bullets?
When you write RUclips teenager groupie BS like that you rat yourself out that you haven't a clue about anything and have zero experiences in Hunting - ammo - bullets.
More of how you show your own ignorance and personal experiences of life experiences with guns - ammo- bullets when you talk this BS auto loaders are inferiors to lever guns and the refer to auto loaders jam.
I build to sell to shops in Anchorage Alaska the specialized AR 10 uppers in dangerous game wildcat cartridge 358 WSM and a 375 -300 WSM then a large bore 458 WSM with these uppers never fail.
The 375 - 300 WSM pushes a 300 grain bullets at 3600 feet per second and both the 375 - 300 WSM and 458 WSM I am sure can do 5000 Foot pound of energy which am sure like all the rest of the teenager RUclips groupies you believe the 45-70 has more power than a 50 BMG or more power than a 30 mm auto cannon in the noise of the A-10.
You believe you know far more than I do at 63 years old and a professional hunting guide with offered hunts in Alaska - Pacific NW - Romania plus a custom rifle builder and advanced reloader and let me remind you these wildcat cartridges I develop have NO load data I have to work up the loadings for the cartridges which I am sure you have NO idea about.
I have had dumb asses tell me it can't be done to have the AR 10 chambered for WSM cartridges then want to argue with me even when a company Arsenal decent building and selling AR 10 finished rifles have RUclips videos on these WSM chambered AR 10 rifles or KAK Industries sells AR 10 rifles in 300 WSM.
If I asked you to show how a 358 WSM - 375 - 300 WSM - 458 WSM cartridges are made you couldn't begin to say how even the cartridges are made.
But you want to talk crap how powerful the 45-70 is and lead bullets are superior to today's copper expanding bullets Because of your own RUclips brain washed BS.
Let's have a photo's sharing to show you knows more?
Let's see you in photos with dead Alaska brown bears or European red stag or Roe Buck and let's see the guns you have built then I can open my Instagram of my photos to compare who knows more so man you PUNK ! let's see what you know in photos!
If you can't man up to what you been saying, then you are talking crap out your ass common to all RUclipsr groupies and today's millennials woke gay losers.
I have my photos to prove what I say so anyone else want to talk crap me better have photos to back up what they are talking crap to me about.
@lurebenson7722 I wouldn't call them weak. I've been carrying a 45-70 for years in Montana and Alaska up until 2 years ago when I finally got a 50 Alaskan. They have done the job as designed. I'm sure you have a ton of experience, but I think you missed the mark with the weak claim.
Hand load the 45/70 to +P pressure .
Character way a 94 should look ,pepsights no scopes
No 454 casul? Want a lever rifle in 454 to go with ruger super redhawk alaskan
i think Rossi made one sometime ago and Bighorn armory has one that will do 454 and 460sw
@@Perry2186 you are correct. Rossi R92, very cool
Surprised you didn’t throw 444 in the line up
At 1:48 you say the 325 grain bullet is coming out of the muzzle at three thousand feet per second...I think you need to dub over this or post a correction here. This bullet might achieve 2,000 fps at most. Otherwise a neat video and I also vote for less or quieter music
we caught that when we first edited the video. Look for the correct velocity in the green box. 1950FPS
@@MurphysGuns thank you. I’m getting 1950-2100 fps in my 25 gr 45-70 handloads, and I was wondering what I am doing wrong.
12 ga slug is the same thing...just a lot cheaper.
Yup
You ain’t Jeremiah Johnson…..but watch your top notch anyhow pilgrim….
@@woodrowcall3269 Ever read Jerimiah Johnson? The guy was an idiot. Always singing. Running from an Indian war party but stops to sing in an ice cave because he liked the accoustics
Not really 4570 better for longer range and higher sectional density and a 12 gauge slug 1 oz is down to 900 or a little lower foot pounds once it gets to 100 yards
I've had 2 444s, Marlin & Winchester. The Marlin would cock & lock, a but quicker.
What? No Henry??
Video would be much better without the background music.
Disagreed.
50/110¿
50 Alaskan is undervalued too much.
It is an ammo that should be a priority for the major players to produce.
Also, the 450 Marlin is superior to the 45-70 in that the rim is belted, so it can be used in bolt action, etc. Therefore, it is superior to the 45-70 in terms of warhead convenience. Therefore, the convenience of the warhead is superior to that of the 45-70, so in a sense, it is a superior warhead, but if it had been introduced half a century earlier, it would have been dominant...
Take another look at the spelling, it says, Lever "evolution", not lever "revolution".
Hard to listen to anyone who calls it a Leee-o-pold scope.
I shoot a 120mm. I have yet to see anything standing after the shot. Step up to a man’s round.
nice rifles but 460 weatherby has over 6000 ft lbs of muzzle energy.
There is no shame in laying a folded towel over your shoulder or wearing a padded shooting vest.😪
The lever revolution is a horrible bullet . Stick with big heavy hard casts
Sorry I do not watch videos with Ads, as ads contain Malware that is killing Peoples computers. Get a real job and a life!!!
I like a wide field view 4-5 power with big bore.
What about .375 Winchester? marlin 336 C. My first deer rifle dad bought my brother and I for Christmas. The only one he ever bought us. It is amazing. Nothing I ever shot human or otherwise took a step. 😳🤣🇺🇸🍺