Today we're going over considerations when choosing an AK for your SHTF rifle. #ak47 #762x39 #gunculture #2ndamendment #tacticaladvantage #gunsgunsguns #
I really prefer an AK and my safe’s tendencies prove this. It’s true that 556 AKs have even less common magazines but at least share the same ammunition so this maybe a way to go. Inversely, if you find an AK mag in SHTF it’s almost guaranteed to be in 762. If I’m not mistaken I’ve read that some of the recent Russian forces are looking to go back to 762 as well?
Great video I'm on both sides of your AK vs AR issues I have a bunch of both cause I'm a big fan of both platforms. Im a 7.62 fan all my AK's are 7.62x39 and .300 Blackout for AR's keeps my collection stream line and my scopes have calibration for those 2 rounds. Honestly those 2 cartridges are very similar so recoil, accuracy, bullet drop, ammo weight is so close it just makes sense for me.
100% and they do very similar things in terms of wound cavity and brush deflection. The one reason I don’t personally own a 300blk is working at a couple gun shops for the past 10 yrs I’ve seen over a dozen 5.56 guns blow up from 300blk finding its way into a mag. 7.62 doesn’t share this issue. But regardless there are many steps you can take to mitigate this risk.
When I first got into aks, ar15s were like unicorns and ammo per 1k was still 3-350 except steel case, I like them both now but bring back surplus ammo
We are in the same boat .My main battle rifle is an ak ar is now my back up rifle . So now I just bought an ar10.5 and ammo so either now I have the option to run either depending on scenario.
I never really thought of this, but I live on the southern border , cartels do operate on this side, they all run aks', having to engage them is waaaay more likely to me than the Chinese or N Ks
@@jamirbingham4101 I've seen the aftermath of their handiwork. It's a daily occurrence around here, and I'm sure I've seen "them" unknowingly, they employ a lot of people on both sides of the border
Whatever fantasy situation that you make up you will run out of ammunition sooner rather than later. You blokes would be better off learning how to build and make arrows for a crossbow or buy black powder muskets
I think something people often overlook about 7.62x39 is that during the 80's and 90's and even early 2000's it was incredibly cheap and ARs were uncommon. Anyone who was into guns before youtube often had a stockpile of it and I don't think people realize just how much is floating around still. Another potentially hot take is that you having a different rifle than the rest of the team isnt a deal breaker, especially if there are genuine benefits. if you are prioritizing conflict avoidance and strategic strikes on your terms then you may not be burning through as much ammo or mags as you may assume. Break contact drills are sexy and have their place, but logistics over any time duration may force you to be selective in ammo expenditure. This reality makes me believe that in any long term scenario everyone all having the same platform may not be nearly as important as you being able to help your team with a rifle you trust and use effectively. Conversly if the event is short term then ammo quantity is even more of a moot point. Also spare extractors and firing pins and springs are light and take no space or weight Overall great video and good points
@@ozarkman291 absolutely true, all good point brought up. I personally have a pretty decent stockpile myself and all these considerations aren’t deal breakers. But still think it’s something to keep in mind and plan for if you’re using an AK for SHTF. All that being said I think training and familiarity is way more important than what rifle you’re using. Thanks for the continuous support!
I still remember seeing pallets of 7N6 ammo for around $150 ish per 1k rounds around 2011 ish at my local GS and not buying any because I didn’t have a AK74 at the time 😩 still kick myself for not buying any.
@@makevelicustoms oh man, I used to live down the road from j&g sales in 2009-2010. 7n6 was $120 a spam can and I’d burn through 1 every other week. Admittedly mostly mag dumping into trash piles on blm land. Wish I would have saved it instead of wasting all of it in my early 20’s being dumb.
Good luck finding Cz Bren parts. CZ completely abandoned the US on this platform. I’ve personally prevented 3 people from buying CZ. Boycott companies that don’t support customers.
Everyone has their own fantasy scenario about how a shtf scenario would go, but most of them sound really bad. At that point, you may as well train both because you aren't guaranteed to have your specific rifle in a given event. Best to just use what you enjoy and train on multiple platforms, for familiarity.
Very true, and if you’re scavenging ammo there’s gonna be a rifle that uses that ammo next to it. I’m not really convinced there’s a right answer. Because there’s a million different scenarios that could play out if things ever came to SHTF.
Whatever you go for it has to be lightweight. Long barrels wont do for SHTF. You cant be long range accurate in a run and gun. Calories are important. You are more likely to starve carrying a heavy gun.
As a newbie I honestly am trying to balance both. But I find a HUGE frustration is finding good and not crap 7.62x39 that doesn’t cost an organ And an AK that doesn’t have its hidden problems. Personally I finished advanced courses at SDI and have an Aero precision AR15 and a PSA 103 premium which I will need to gut those rivets and learn how to do that (If you know any ammo that would be great please let me know!)
So I’ve heard a lot of crap about tela-ammo, I’m on my second case and it’s performed amazing. Some people say it’s corrosive but I haven’t cleaned my alpha AK in the last 5k RDS and over 1k of tela. No issues with corrosion so I’m not sure where they’re getting that. Last week I saw it on sale for $400 a case (which I know isn’t 2018 prices. But it’s the best it’s been since the sanctions.) I don’t have a full review but I did put it up against the AAC ammo in my review of that. You can see how it performed there. Honestly incredibly well. ruclips.net/video/dHorF-_0faU/видео.htmlsi=iwq8Q6qX5pCt5Frd
I grew up on both platforms...apart from deer rifles and shotguns and pistols of all calibers i got my first ar when i was like 18 or 19 and my first ak when i was like 23 or 24...i built a piston ar in 762x39(wich is a bad mofo) when ammo was 200 dollars a case and seemed to be in endless supply...my fav round by far is 762x39 and they need to be making it in bulk here in America...that round is way too widely used across the globe for us to have to deal w bs prices and have virtually no options for ammo
Oh man those were the days. A lot of the 7.62 is finally starting to come down. Not to what it once was but I saw a case of tela-ammo on sale for $400 the other week. And I’ve been really impressed with the tela, on my second case now and it performs pretty dang well.
@@conceptualconcepts6.9 glad to hear that I bought 2k rounds of tela earlier this year but haven't shot it yet...im still widdling away at a spam can I bought in 2016...found out some of it was corrosive so trying to get it shot up before I pop open anything else
@@CharlesMartelsHammer absolutely, even though AK’s are a distant second in the US, they’re leagues above any other option. Making AR’s and AK’s the top 2 by a long shot.
I would say its ak in 556. Best choice would be Palmetto ak 102, compact but not too compact. If you get builders kit , its only 650 add plastic furniture and you looking at 750. Cant be beaten l.
I actually picked up a 102 builders kit of exactly that myself for testing, have an initial thoughts video posted on it and will have a 1k review in another couple months. ruclips.net/video/Nz9OoyOH8Kk/видео.htmlsi=813xd9bDGOEuI-NF Rob ski from @akoperatorsunion swears by his but lemon grenade definitely has some valid concerns in his latest video on the 101 he bought. We’ll see how it holds up.
@conceptualconcepts6.9 hopefully you've got better luck. The 102 I bought did not cycle out of the box, and I was using brass case m855, so not cheap steel case. When I got it back from PSA, it did cycle but it was popping primers. I sent it back and got my money back. Eventually bought a wbp parts kit and built a 14.5 p&w with an occam defense adjustable gas block
@@conceptualconcepts6.9 I wouldn't listen to a dude that looks like lemon grenade. He also says that AR 15 is bad platform. He also disables comments, sorry I can't listed to a coward like that
I really prefer an AK and my safe’s tendencies prove this. It’s true that 556 AKs have even less common magazines but at least share the same ammunition so this maybe a way to go. Inversely, if you find an AK mag in SHTF it’s almost guaranteed to be in 762. If I’m not mistaken I’ve read that some of the recent Russian forces are looking to go back to 762 as well?
@@AlphaOmega333 all good points man. Yeah ive heard they’re at least looking to make it a front runner again. But who knows what’ll actually happen
My understanding is outside of the European theater. Russian special forces utilize the 762 more as it is
More common with partner forces.
Great video I'm on both sides of your AK vs AR issues I have a bunch of both cause I'm a big fan of both platforms. Im a 7.62 fan all my AK's are 7.62x39 and .300 Blackout for AR's keeps my collection stream line and my scopes have calibration for those 2 rounds. Honestly those 2 cartridges are very similar so recoil, accuracy, bullet drop, ammo weight is so close it just makes sense for me.
100% and they do very similar things in terms of wound cavity and brush deflection. The one reason I don’t personally own a 300blk is working at a couple gun shops for the past 10 yrs I’ve seen over a dozen 5.56 guns blow up from 300blk finding its way into a mag. 7.62 doesn’t share this issue. But regardless there are many steps you can take to mitigate this risk.
When I first got into aks, ar15s were like unicorns and ammo per 1k was still 3-350 except steel case, I like them both now but bring back surplus ammo
Preach!
WHOA…WHOA…YOU CANT HAVE A Rifle PREFERENCE!😂. Nice video Bro❤
Lmao shame
We are in the same boat .My main battle rifle is an ak ar is now my back up rifle . So now I just bought an ar10.5 and ammo so either now I have the option to run either depending on scenario.
Good call, definitely smart to have both
I never really thought of this, but I live on the southern border , cartels do operate on this side, they all run aks', having to engage them is waaaay more likely to me than the Chinese or N Ks
Damned good reason I hadn’t thought of before.
You’ve actually seen cartels?
@@jamirbingham4101 I've seen the aftermath of their handiwork. It's a daily occurrence around here, and I'm sure I've seen "them" unknowingly, they employ a lot of people on both sides of the border
Whatever fantasy situation that you make up you will run out of ammunition sooner rather than later. You blokes would be better off learning how to build and make arrows for a crossbow or buy black powder muskets
@@honeybadger6313 lol
Forgot to mention the one's that wear blue helmets invading
@@twister6909 hahaha shhhhh they might hear you 😂
I think something people often overlook about 7.62x39 is that during the 80's and 90's and even early 2000's it was incredibly cheap and ARs were uncommon. Anyone who was into guns before youtube often had a stockpile of it and I don't think people realize just how much is floating around still.
Another potentially hot take is that you having a different rifle than the rest of the team isnt a deal breaker, especially if there are genuine benefits. if you are prioritizing conflict avoidance and strategic strikes on your terms then you may not be burning through as much ammo or mags as you may assume. Break contact drills are sexy and have their place, but logistics over any time duration may force you to be selective in ammo expenditure. This reality makes me believe that in any long term scenario everyone all having the same platform may not be nearly as important as you being able to help your team with a rifle you trust and use effectively. Conversly if the event is short term then ammo quantity is even more of a moot point.
Also spare extractors and firing pins and springs are light and take no space or weight
Overall great video and good points
@@ozarkman291 absolutely true, all good point brought up. I personally have a pretty decent stockpile myself and all these considerations aren’t deal breakers. But still think it’s something to keep in mind and plan for if you’re using an AK for SHTF. All that being said I think training and familiarity is way more important than what rifle you’re using.
Thanks for the continuous support!
I still remember seeing pallets of 7N6 ammo for around $150 ish per 1k rounds around 2011 ish at my local GS and not buying any because I didn’t have a AK74 at the time 😩 still kick myself for not buying any.
@@makevelicustoms oh man, I used to live down the road from j&g sales in 2009-2010. 7n6 was $120 a spam can and I’d burn through 1 every other week. Admittedly mostly mag dumping into trash piles on blm land. Wish I would have saved it instead of wasting all of it in my early 20’s being dumb.
THANK YOU..... GREAT CHAT.... I LOVE MY RIFLE. . 😊😊😊😊😊
Treat it well lol
What about an AK IN 5.56 that accepts AR mags?
Def my SHTF rifle, got them in 4 different calibers.
I’ve got it in 3 myself, love it
I'm picking the SKS :) but I love AK too
Good luck finding Cz Bren parts. CZ completely abandoned the US on this platform. I’ve personally prevented 3 people from buying CZ. Boycott companies that don’t support customers.
CZ does have a bad habit of doing that.
Everyone has their own fantasy scenario about how a shtf scenario would go, but most of them sound really bad. At that point, you may as well train both because you aren't guaranteed to have your specific rifle in a given event. Best to just use what you enjoy and train on multiple platforms, for familiarity.
Very true, and if you’re scavenging ammo there’s gonna be a rifle that uses that ammo next to it. I’m not really convinced there’s a right answer. Because there’s a million different scenarios that could play out if things ever came to SHTF.
Ak controls are ass/outdated, literally inferior, but that being said I could see liking all the other differences
Ar15 is the logical choice. Ak is the cool choice
@@CiviTac In the US I would definitely tend to agree
Just your opinion..
Have mags. Need more War Drums 🥁!!!
😂
Whatever you go for it has to be lightweight. Long barrels wont do for SHTF. You cant be long range accurate in a run and gun. Calories are important. You are more likely to starve carrying a heavy gun.
All good points
As a newbie I honestly am trying to balance both. But I find a HUGE frustration is finding good and not crap 7.62x39 that doesn’t cost an organ
And an AK that doesn’t have its hidden problems. Personally I finished advanced courses at SDI and have an Aero precision AR15 and a PSA 103 premium which I will need to gut those rivets and learn how to do that
(If you know any ammo that would be great please let me know!)
So I’ve heard a lot of crap about tela-ammo, I’m on my second case and it’s performed amazing. Some people say it’s corrosive but I haven’t cleaned my alpha AK in the last 5k RDS and over 1k of tela. No issues with corrosion so I’m not sure where they’re getting that. Last week I saw it on sale for $400 a case (which I know isn’t 2018 prices. But it’s the best it’s been since the sanctions.) I don’t have a full review but I did put it up against the AAC ammo in my review of that. You can see how it performed there. Honestly incredibly well.
ruclips.net/video/dHorF-_0faU/видео.htmlsi=iwq8Q6qX5pCt5Frd
@@conceptualconcepts6.9 i appreciate the advice and will look into it!
I grew up on both platforms...apart from deer rifles and shotguns and pistols of all calibers i got my first ar when i was like 18 or 19 and my first ak when i was like 23 or 24...i built a piston ar in 762x39(wich is a bad mofo) when ammo was 200 dollars a case and seemed to be in endless supply...my fav round by far is 762x39 and they need to be making it in bulk here in America...that round is way too widely used across the globe for us to have to deal w bs prices and have virtually no options for ammo
Oh man those were the days. A lot of the 7.62 is finally starting to come down. Not to what it once was but I saw a case of tela-ammo on sale for $400 the other week. And I’ve been really impressed with the tela, on my second case now and it performs pretty dang well.
@@conceptualconcepts6.9 glad to hear that I bought 2k rounds of tela earlier this year but haven't shot it yet...im still widdling away at a spam can I bought in 2016...found out some of it was corrosive so trying to get it shot up before I pop open anything else
I think both are great options with some caveats. I chose ar15 and left the ak platform ages ago and i dont regret it, but i miss my aks some days.
The AR is an awesome platform. But there’s just something soulful about an AK. They have a personality
Thats really what it is. Aks just have that vibe.
@@CharlesMartelsHammer 100%
Id even go further and say they are the best 2 options for serious use when logistics are a main factor.
@@CharlesMartelsHammer absolutely, even though AK’s are a distant second in the US, they’re leagues above any other option. Making AR’s and AK’s the top 2 by a long shot.
I have 2. A full size Draco and Yogo M70 AB2 underfolders. But still plan on an AR10.
I plan to have both.
All about the hard hitters
Facts
well put
I prefer A R
@@ricktoole9991 definitely the more practical choice in the US. AR’s are awesome
What do you think of the QBZ191 ?
@@Nom_AnorVSJedi I wish I could say I had hands on. Seems like an interesting rifle though
Agreed 👍 sub!
@@mobilegamersunite thank you!
@@conceptualconcepts6.9 stocking up on Zastava parts myself.
I would say its ak in 556. Best choice would be Palmetto ak 102, compact but not too compact. If you get builders kit , its only 650 add plastic furniture and you looking at 750. Cant be beaten l.
Palmetto AK’s are not built properly. Go watch m26 lemon grenade’s videos on them.
I actually picked up a 102 builders kit of exactly that myself for testing, have an initial thoughts video posted on it and will have a 1k review in another couple months.
ruclips.net/video/Nz9OoyOH8Kk/видео.htmlsi=813xd9bDGOEuI-NF
Rob ski from @akoperatorsunion swears by his but lemon grenade definitely has some valid concerns in his latest video on the 101 he bought. We’ll see how it holds up.
@conceptualconcepts6.9 hopefully you've got better luck. The 102 I bought did not cycle out of the box, and I was using brass case m855, so not cheap steel case. When I got it back from PSA, it did cycle but it was popping primers. I sent it back and got my money back. Eventually bought a wbp parts kit and built a 14.5 p&w with an occam defense adjustable gas block
@@user-he1vv4ce9c the soyo looking dude who disables comments? He didn't even cut that receiver live lol. Big liar, that's why he disables comments
@@conceptualconcepts6.9 I wouldn't listen to a dude that looks like lemon grenade. He also says that AR 15 is bad platform. He also disables comments, sorry I can't listed to a coward like that
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