I mean, the original PS4 version does have a physical release. And there are a few places other than Steam where you can still buy the original PC version, though it still has Steam DRM.
If it's the same experience but better then what's wrong with it also seriously if you care about graphics that much in a JRPG, consider yourself an annoying elitist, it will not make that much of a difference when the focus isn't on graphics but on what is actually happening. I can understand wanting stuff to look good but the difference between grass isn't going to make the game a worse or even bad game. Yes I will admit that it does make a difference in how stuff feels but are a pieces of foliage vs extra content really a dealbreaker. I will admit that bad graphics when there obviously was room in the budget doesn't feel right but it's a story focused game. This was a rant and what I'm about to say may contradict what I've just now said. I understand that people want good graphics, and I don't blame them for it, but my main point is that complaining about slightly worse graphics in a game makes no sense imo. you shouldn't be looking at the ground you should be looking at the story.
@@dreamhunter5011 It is a bit of a trade-off, though, as covered in the video. Some people might prefer to trade the improved resolution and framerate, along with the extra content, for the original higher-poly character models and more advanced lighting.
notable about it, switching from 3D to 2D gameplay is as easy as switching from the analog stick to the Dpad and changing which screen you're looking at. It will even display text on whichever screen you played on last
Yup we were robbed, they even announced it was going to be released in the west. Than back out on it, which is sad cause that was the version I wanted most. I think they backed out on the western release a few months before the orignal release of the game.
Same here, I was soooo disappointed when they announced the 3DS version was not getting a release state side, I wanted that verson specifically over all the others. Perhaps one day a fan translation will happen and we can play it on 3ds.
@@rainbowflash5937 I played through the entire thing not knowing this... I also played through the game not knowing there was DQ8 dlc. DQ8 is one of my favorite RPGs, so it both made me happy and crushed to hear this.
Another small addition that version S has is that there is now more combat dialogue between the party, just little snippets of chatter back and forth as different battle situations occur. For example, if another character takes a ton of damage, Erik asks them "Are you alright?!" It's a tiny change but I like how it makes battles feel more eventful and meaningful.
@@FunLobsterFacts Thanks! I did hear that the Switch version had pleeenty of slow downs, so I'm going to play it on Xbox Game Pass. Thanks for the clarification tho!
I played through S on the Switch without having played or seen the game on PC or more powerful consoles and I honestly had no problem with the image quality. It was a bit soft but it looks good enough and the frame rate is rock solid with zero noticeable dips or hiccups in my 80 hours of playing it.
Obviously the added content is more important than the diminished visuals but that's not the real question. The real question is: why do we even have to choose? On the Switch it makes sense because of the hardware limitations, not so much on the PC or consoles. Saying the new version was developed for the Switch is a cop-out since things like higher resolution textures or lighting quality aren't anything the newer version of UE couldn't handle on those other platforms. It's just stuff they didn't bother to put back in. This isn't a free update, it's a stand-alone game sold for 40€. The least they could do is match the visual fidelity of the original release. There is no reason it couldn't be done, it's just a matter of cutting costs. We shouldn't have to choose between visuals and features.
@@poika22 I feel like sometimes its very easy for people like us who just play games and don't necessarily make them for a living to say things like this. There could definitely be some technical limitations or just design decisions that inhibited their ability to reuse the older assets when porting S to the more powerful platforms. For me, JRPGs and especially Dragon Quest games have never really been about exploring the limits of graphical fidelity or technical achievement. These types of games are best enjoyed with the story and the characters and that is where DQXI excels in my opinion.
@@dcarpenter85 I know a thing or two about software development. There definitely can be reasons that make reusing the older assets more complicated than simply copy-pasting them in. There aren't reasons that make it unattainable for a company the size of Square Enix. Like I said, it's a matter of cutting costs. It definitely could be done, in the most extreme case they could've remade those assets from the group up if that's what they wanted to do. I doubt it would have been necessary, but it could've been done if they wanted to. They have the resources to do it. Instead they chose to go the cheapest route, porting it from the Switch with minimal changes. You're free to like the characters and the story and everything else, but none of those things would've been negatively impacted by a better technical execution of the re-release. I'm not saying the game is ruined, just that Square should rightly be criticized for their decision to penny-pinch this release.
@@poika22 Yep, I can't agree more, if you're going to port a game to PC / PS4/ XBOX and it's called the DEFINITIVE edition then there's no reason it should look worse than the original version of the game on each respective platform, if anything it should actually look better. We have improved graphics in games as the generations go on because graphics / aesthetics are a big component to games, else game consoles would of stopped at the PS3 / 360, because realistically both of those consoles are powerful enough to make any game you want. But we don't do that because everyone knows its important. I'll give an example, if Ghost Of Tsushima had a PS3 version, hypothetically and it was heavily downgraded in visuals, it would ruin the overall atmosphere / immersion / experience of the game. It just wouldn't be the same experience on PS3 as it is on PS4. Having said that, I did just buy the definitive edition on PC, I wanna play that extra content, but it IS annoying that I have to play a downgraded game graphically because SE was lazy.
I always imagined that the musicians in the orchestra were big DQ fans (in some cases 2nd generation DQ fans!) who were thrilled to be a part of the DQ experience and were absolutely doing their best to make sure the symphonic track was a great addition to the game.
@@rafaelmontillaalvarez6272 Text? Yes. Voice acting? No, and it wasn't even available. Japan didn't get voice acting in *any* Dragon Quest game until Dragon Quest XI S.
@@jonespianist3189 ah yeah, thought u meant english voices were in the japanese version lol. Yeah there were no voices for feeling old school or somth. Only japanese text
That's why when I look for reviews, I don't look for ones like IGN, Kotaku, or any of the ones where it's obvious that they're being fake. Often times, it's the video with hardly any views.
@@yersolell654 A 35 minute video is a bit over the top regardless of the amount of content. And judging from the first minute, it is biased. I want to hear from gamers, not people who get paid to say great things.
@@octolockg5059 your opinion is definitely fair and the review is basically just a 35 minute video of praising a game like it is a perfect creation which is not what a review should do, it's more like a fan's perspective
@@yersolell654 The guy says in the first minute that DQ is his favorite video game franchise of all time. So of course it's biased. Get someone who's played a few here and there or someone who's knew to the franchise. Fresh perspective.
I always preffer to play the version with the most available content, so i don't really care for graphics (Even though the game still looks great in every version) Good video Austin, and thank you for correcting the little mistakes from your previous video on the game.
I agree though I am not buying it at any more that $15 as a owner of the other one but eveyone's problem isn't the bad graphics its how greedy and lazy they were
i've been waiting for the S version on pc for a while (dunno if there's gonna be one).. the lack of graphic is not a really concern since the content is massive and QoL features really smoothing the gameplay..
You can play it in HD on Switch or even on Steam if you choose a lower resolution; but right now I don't see any reason to go back to HD when current platforms have better resolutions.
@@viquistzius4664 FFVII Remake has a turn based combat option, but the real time combat is awesome, I can’t imagine why someone would choose turn based over real time in that game
@@eddyrodriguez3865 I didn't play it in classic, I wanted to experience it the way they intended. And it really was awesome! So I probably left it out for those two reasons, not the intented way to play and not the way I played it. But yeah, can't wait for part 2!
I mean Dragonquest is basically 80 percent of the Japanese economy if they did not do that Japan would have burned down a long time ago from Japanese fans outrage
While I love having a pc but I've yet to play a game where I don't have to install a mod or tweak settings in my cpu, gpu, and any other software that relates to anything that a game requires even down to audio software.
@@indefatigableargonaut What kind of games are you playing? I have around 100 PC games and only 2 require mods to run properly (Dark Souls 1 and NieR Automata) and I have very old games that shouldn't run or have a lot of conflict with newer hardware
its a wonderful toriyama-esque world of wonder and fantasy but people are loosing their shit about minuscule details like those gaps in graphical quality , I seriously feel negativity its killing gaming slowly
I agree. Difference is so freaking small. Just shut up and enjoy the massive content upgrade 🙄 I bought the original XI a long time ago and had to sell it for some extra scratch. Regretted it immediately, but now I'm stoked because it just means I won't feel like I wasted my money buying it again for all this cool shit
Yeah this 60fps 4k ready crap is annoying really 90% of the games don't have a proper story just shot and that's it 8-12 hours, dragon quest 100-120 great story I take that thank you very much.
The obvious choice is the Definitive Edition. Yes it is stupid that DE is downgraded graphics wise and I'm not defending SE for doing this but the fact there is (or was) an actual debate about which version to play is hella pathetic. The game barely looks any different. And I guarantee you that anyone who chooses OG 11 over 11S is going to regret it (unless they got it on PC where improvement mods are usable). There are far too many improvements in 11S to just write it off because "the lighting is slightly worse" lol
The funny part is it looks like S has better textures. Like, by far. And then worse everything else, heh. I do agree the lighting could be preferential but it looks more natural in vanilla.
Nah there is a looooot more that looks worse on S. Lighting, grass, polycount on models is a third of the OG version for some models, blurry textures, water, fire.. it goes on and on. It doesn't seem too big a deal at first until you really start actually comparing the more mid game area's.
Although it is a shame that the "definitive edition" of the game does not have the definitive graphical quality, all of the quality of life changes and the slew of extra content will make up for worse quality graphics. DQ11S is definitive in just about every other way and is worth playing over the original.
@NazarioCharlie It's a different system though according to modders. The updated unreal engine makes it tougher to do any modding of the graphics because its not the same system.
I played the whole 10 hour demo on switch. Then I went and finally installed my orignal steam copy and added the Orchestral OST mod. Much much more playable IMO. Since it's all still new to me, missing out on extra side content is no problem. 200 hour game already, ya know.
My biggest disappointment was that the enemies weren’t animated in the 2D version. It would’ve been so nice had the enemies been animated like they were in DQ7.
The lighting is terrible in S... absolutely horrendous. And by the way, SE just solve the "choise problem" for you guys: you can't buy the vanilla version anymore lol
IMO, even I wait the release on Xbox One to play it at 4K60 on my One X, the visual is not the main thing that import in a Dragon Quest, it's the OST, and now with the port of XI S we're going to have the orchetral ost on any version, and that is great !
My first DQ was 9 on the DS and I loved it. Never played one since untill I saw 11S was on the switch and figured I could use the nostalgia dopamine. I have loved every bit of the 70+( and going) hours I've dumped into it. (Except for sailing encounters)
Played the normal-, aswell as the s version and im absolutely in love with this game. The s version is a bit better. Orchestrated music, cosmetic gear, got rid of the annoying target quest, more story that covers the background of the crewmates and the crack in the sky endgame mission with the most op item ever as a reward. + the tickling quests have a nice charm
At least the target quest gave you something to use the crossbow for, now it just gets in the way when trying to get a free hit on enemies. If they were going to get rid of the target quest, they could’ve at least also added an option to turn off the crossbow.
@@The2808erik im playing it on ps4 not pro, or 5, or series or PC. I already had seen tiling issues with the OG version so I'm good. A downgrade in texture and lighting that can be bumped back up after a few updates isn't all that bad. And yes they can update it if it gets enough negative feedback
@@hyozanrutheexiledfab Will they, is the question. I'm holding of on buying DQ11S until they actually update the assets and lightning, I highly doubt they will. Square Enix does not have a good track record with ports.
@@hyozanrutheexiledfab Less grass, static grass, worst textures, worst lighting system, low poly characters models etc etc. Honestly the downgrade is massive when you have played the original game first. It needs way more than just a patch to fix that. And the worst is that you can't even buy the original game on Steam and Psn anymore... fuck Square Enix really. The original is a master piece and a brilliant example of good 3D cell shading this poor port is a shame
@@femto8402 well I guess that's where I forgot to mention. I got it on ps4. And I still have the original. I only got the deluxe since I dont have access to the orchestra mod or 2d mode. All in all the game still plays the same but bad port. I've had worse trust me. Yall don't wanna touch XIII remake.
I'll copy-paste this comment about DQ11's lighting:- The original game used Enlighten, which bakes better lighting at higher resolutions, with better Global Illumination and bounce, and has much less expensive realtime lighting support, Enlighten does exist for Nintendo Switch however it's rather costly, so square have opted to use standard unreal baked lightmaps for the Switch version, so the lighting looks very different. Source : www.reddit.com/r/dragonquest/comments/jmssyp/comparison_between_4k_pc_original_and_definitive/gay909w/
The S version is such a big middle finger to everyone it shouldn't be full price to orginal owners. The orginal shouldn't be delisted and the graphics should be the same if not better
13:28 agreed, I went into it on Switch and loved it, I never really felt the graphics were poor or anything. Only after I beat the game did I really notice how good the game could’ve looked when I watched PS4 gameplay, but I still think S is the best version regardless.
It can't be overstated how much of an improvement S is over the original. It also can't be overstated how gorgeous the original looks. It pains me to see a compromise be made. Curious why they decided to call the console version of S "The Definitive Edition," as almost zero improvements were made to take advantage of the beefier hardware.
Nah.....don't have ps5. But it's cool to no need to rush buying it until they fix all the weird ass shit that's happening to it.....like system weird bugs if any....and also controller drift.
This is the first jrpg ( i think is called) i played on mi life and tbh la the Best Game i played on My life y love all the characters and the history Even thougth is a easy Game is the Best i played and i may sound like a weido/strange xd but i cried several times whit the Game and i haven't finish it yet i have 90h of gameplay tbh the Best 90h of My life (sorry for the bad gramar)
Don’t worry dude! Welcome to the jrpg world! If you have a PlayStation console you should check the persona saga (it’s an jrpg really really good which is half jrpg combat and dungeon exploring and half high school simulator (sounds kinda weird but it’s one of the best series of all time) I recommend the new one persona 5 royal for the ps4, but you can play persona 5 (which it’s like the first version the game) in ps3 If you play in pc you could check persona 4 golden in steam it’s my favorite game of all time
God bless Xbox Game Pass!! I was originally planning to buy it on PS4 (since i platinumed the original Dragon Quest XI) but i bought an Xbox Series S and this enhanced version will be on game pass. So i don't have to spend much to replay this game. :)
The fact they did not give a discount to previous ps4 owners means i wont be playing this game at all anymore. It is not big enough of a upgrade for me to be buying the game again, they even removed the old game so it is more a replacement. I already got annoyed with this with persona 5 royal, but in the end it made sense because the games are very different to play.
I play it on the switch because the pick up and play flexibility of the switch is the reason, i can play it on my TV, and then if i want i can take it along with me
Would definitely play the 3DS version if it were available but as an aspiring streamer and a longtime Dragon Quest fan I think i'd like to pick up the PC version of DQXIS and this video was very helpful in pushing me to make a final decision. SO thank you for a concise and to the point video with plenty of information!
played the switch one when it released and its definitely worth it. the game looks amazing and its nice being able to take it wherever if i need to whether im simply grinding while wasting time irl or playing docked in my bed. lovely game and i have no issues w it. if not switch might as well go for pc port
Huh I always wondered why the LOD and draw distance was so awful at max settings on PC but now I know it's because the Switch has absolute garbage hardware.
There should be a PS5 proper version, called Dragon Quest XI S: Unreal Engine 5 and Octopath Style Edition. 3D Mode would be Unreal Engine 5 3D graphics being close to the FMVs. 2D Mode would become Octopath Style, using the assets of the upcoming Dragon Quest III remake.
I was actually scheptical about the Definitive Edition looking worse because it's based on the Switch build, but today I played both the original on PS4 Pro and DE on Series X and man, there is a difference. Sure, DE has 60fps support on SX and all those extras, but man it does look a lot weaker than the original.
I’m mad because I can’t play the 3ds version and I can’t even find any gameplay on it either. I played the Switch and Vanilla version and put so many hours in it. You bet your sweet ass I’m about to buy it rn and play all over again.
my Main Problem is, that SE, as soon as S released (or some months later) just stopped supporting vanilla entirely. I bought the Game on PS4 when it released, not knowing they would report the S Version back then or update it with new stuff... It's kinda like what they did with FFXV and the Royal Edition (which I didn't buy then either). What is so hard giving us a full game, or at least let us upgrade to the "newer" version (with graphical downgrade even...) wish they would have considered updating vanilla, instead of porting the S version... Thanks for the video, will play vanilla to the end, hence I bought it...
Not gonna lie the lighting and models are really noticeable when directly compared but the content is the important part here and S brings a lot of content to the table. Plus, knowing modders, it won't be long until we get to see improvements on the graphic side on the PC. Even if it doesn't happen, content beats graphics any day. Great video, always helpful knowing what to expect.
True, but funnily enough, I actually think that the lighting on character models actually looks much better in the DE edition than the original. Don't like how it looks on everything else though. And obviously foilage is now way worse, unquestionably.
Thanks for the info, I was a bit doubtful if I should continue the Vanilla on PC or get the S on discount but I'm definitely going to keep playing the vanilla. ^^
I wish the new PS4 version combined the graphics of the original PS4 game and the content of the Switch one, then it would truly be the definitive one.
@@Bullminator Yes I did now but I really prefer to have my games on Steam it is way more convenient. And I can't even find a fuc**** cd key for this game wtf
Are the old DQXI saves going to be compatible with the S version? That's the only thing that comes to mind. I will wait for drastic sales and the modding community since Square can't do anything good nowadays.
As he stated, this is on a newer version of the engine and why they couldn't simply patch the game because of so many changes at the foundation of the game. So it wouldn't be viable to transfer saves.
Probably not. The game was made in a modified engine and all the new content will probably not make it possible to do a 1:1 save transfer without something getting lost of corrupted along the way.
It's a shame that they didn't bother to take the extra time to move the higher quality assets from the original 11 to 11S. I think the lack of the more advanced lighting makes the latter look a lot flatter. However, it's a testament to the Switch version that 11S still looks extremely good on Xbox and PS4.
I have played thru both the original PS4 release and the new Switch version, and while the new content on the Switch version is nice, the graphical difference is jarring to say the least. It's far more noticeable in motion while playing them in person. The texture detail and dynamic lighting effects are the biggest changes, and the difference is pretty massive. Enough so that I greatly prefer the original PS4 release over the Switch version, even without the extra content. They also did away with one of my favorite features of the original PS4 version, First Person View mode. The graphics can be absolutely gorgeous in that game, and being able to zoom in on them whenever you want is really nice. The lighting effects in particular as light bounces off reflective surfaces such as floors and walls is particularly beautiful looking.
The only issue i have is there's no upgrade path. Yes, it can't be patched. But at least give us a damn discount if we already bought the full game once before!
Switch would be my vote for DQXI S. I played the original DQXI on PS4. If I play again it'll be on Switch due to portability. It's such a long game, being able to play anywhere helps.
This game was ruined for me by grief, shitty game practices, and a spoiler filled youtube thumbnail. The thing that still bothers me to this day is the feeling of being punished for being an initial adopter of the game. I was playing it steadily enough, but after losing someone due to a story beat, I legit got Aerith syndrome and struggled to continue playing. Since then, I only periodically turned the game on, and whenever I did, I just ran laps in that floating battleground area grinding against liquid metal slimes. I was so devastated that I just couldn't continue. When they announced the S version and I realized it wasn't going to be a DLC patch I felt even less incentive to want to play. Like, why bother? My version of the game is pointless now. This added to the weirdly growing list of games I already owned that got ported to the switch with enhanced content. I'm very frugal when it comes to buying games I already own, just for some minor upgrades, unless it's old game on dead hardware. As is my luck, while searching around listening to DQ OSTs, my recommend tab happened to just show a full ass spoiler for 11's ending. So now, all that heartache I went through seems to have been for nothing and I don't know what to do. There might be a lot more game left than I realized...and I really don't want to buy it again. By now, I've gotten everyone but Serena to 99 (she's only 96) and filled out all but one character's skill tree. I don't mind replaying a long RPG...but not one I was still currently playing. The principle of the whole thing never stopped rubbing me the wrong way. It just reeks of Capcom's nonsense back during the Street Fighter 4 & Marvel 3 days or Pokemon's "DLC" version bullshit. Seeing my version eventually get de-listed with no upgrade option whatsoever was also a mighty slap in the face. Like, how the hell was anyone supposed to know that you were going to basically remaster the game a few years later? They just want you to drop this game and buy the "correct" version of it. I didn't own a switch at the time, which made it all the more irritating that the proper version wasn't even available to me. Hell, we never even got the 3DS version, which I was hoping for. Now that S is out and has been for a while, I still don't know how to feel about it.
You're correct there but at the same time there's no excuse for not updating the graphics and not to mention on Steam there is no choice new players can't buy the og version only the new one these anti-consumer moves by Square are inexcusable hopefully the modders can fix the graphics part.
It looks different, but I'm not sure that it looks worse. In some of the examples I prefer the new version rather than the original. I'm almost sure that most people who call this a "downgrade" wouldn't be able to tell which version is the original and which one is the S version if presented both side to side.
I dont think the graphics should EVER be the dealbreaker for a game. If the game is good, it's good. I dont give a crap what the graphics are. ART STYLE, on the other hand, I can see why that would be an issue for some. My brother doesnt bother with Dragon Quest purely because he hates the Toriyama Style. Which is strange, because he has an undying passion for RPGS.
I bought the original version and I prob wont be buying the new version. There is no upgrade discount on PC, so i'd have to buy a whole new game. And, the content added doesn't really meet the expectation of buying a new game. If I were buying just the S version, I'd but that. But to buy a whole new game just for a couple of new bosses, eh, not worth. The quality of life changes really mean a lot, but since I already 100% the original version QOF means nothing to me.
I can't believe Japanese developers can suck this much at making PC games. How hard is it to understand that people want the best version of the game on PC? Not some parts are better and some are worse. Hopefully they patch this but seeing as DQXIS is not out on PS5 yet, it might be a while.
God.. such a bitter sweet situation.. 4k and 60fps is great. Along with the added content and quality of life improvements.. but the lighting, textures and most of all the grass took a big hit.. Its just such a shame that its so close to being perfect.
Started playing the demo over the weekend on Xbox Series X. Looks great at 60fps and loads really fast. The colours really pop due to HDR being added by Xbox series consoles' Auto HDR mode.
"The decision which version you play should be yours."
Square Enix: "I don't think so." *removes the Original Version from all stores*
My kekistan.
I mean, the original PS4 version does have a physical release. And there are a few places other than Steam where you can still buy the original PC version, though it still has Steam DRM.
@@Cae_the_Kitsune yep cop the physical copy
If it's the same experience but better then what's wrong with it
also seriously if you care about graphics that much in a JRPG, consider yourself an annoying elitist, it will not make that much of a difference when the focus isn't on graphics but on what is actually happening. I can understand wanting stuff to look good but the difference between grass isn't going to make the game a worse or even bad game. Yes I will admit that it does make a difference in how stuff feels but are a pieces of foliage vs extra content really a dealbreaker. I will admit that bad graphics when there obviously was room in the budget doesn't feel right but it's a story focused game.
This was a rant and what I'm about to say may contradict what I've just now said. I understand that people want good graphics, and I don't blame them for it, but my main point is that complaining about slightly worse graphics in a game makes no sense imo. you shouldn't be looking at the ground you should be looking at the story.
@@dreamhunter5011 It is a bit of a trade-off, though, as covered in the video. Some people might prefer to trade the improved resolution and framerate, along with the extra content, for the original higher-poly character models and more advanced lighting.
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@@linuigi5535 Let's stop now
There was a 3DS version only released in Japan?!
We were robbed
notable about it, switching from 3D to 2D gameplay is as easy as switching from the analog stick to the Dpad and changing which screen you're looking at. It will even display text on whichever screen you played on last
Yup we were robbed, they even announced it was going to be released in the west. Than back out on it, which is sad cause that was the version I wanted most. I think they backed out on the western release a few months before the orignal release of the game.
@@ChibiKami nah that's the first 3 hours and then you have to pick between 3D or 2D
It's actually not that good
@@mafusan4499 does the 3ds have english language option?
"And there's the 2D mode that lets you play the *entire game* like a traditional 2D dragon quest."
What. The fuck.
Who would actually want that
@@Walamonga1313
Excuse me?
@@reddodeado301 i mean he aint wrong, the 3ds verison got it all in 3d. 2d hd is Nice , but the 2d in dq11 looks ass
@@hoesmad8626 pretty sure you’re missing the whole point buddy man
@@snaggy1212 no, there is nothing definitive about anything if other versions offer content not in the "definitive" version
Am I the only one that thinks the orchestrated soundtrack alone makes
S better than the original?
Definitely not. As much as I dug the midi OST when I played the original release, it's night and day difference.
There's a mod for PC players tho on the OG version.
The orchestrated soundtrack was a free mod for the PC.
It's a godsend that you can use the overworld song of DQVIII lol.
I waited several months for S to come out only for the orchestrated soundtrack even though I had a PS4 and could've bought it there
I wish I could play the 3ds version in English.
Same here, I was soooo disappointed when they announced the 3DS version was not getting a release state side, I wanted that verson specifically over all the others. Perhaps one day a fan translation will happen and we can play it on 3ds.
@@brucetheman8883 I still hope someday a translation does come out, or at least an english menu patch so we know what are we doing lol
Same here. It's real charming looking.
we will have to wait for a fan translation ... But it will take a long time
Likewise
8:27 Wait... THE HORSE CHARGING THROUGH ENEMIES EARNS YOU EXP!?
Yea makes the game even more easy than it already is...
@@rainbowflash5937 I played through the entire thing not knowing this... I also played through the game not knowing there was DQ8 dlc. DQ8 is one of my favorite RPGs, so it both made me happy and crushed to hear this.
@@papaG6423 Well I played the non S version first and I'm mad that I payed 60 bucks for it just to miss out on many features now but yes DQ8 is love!
@@rainbowflash5937 They had DQ8 DLC available in the deluxe DLC, I even had DQ8 Hero's outfit in the beginning to play in the Vanilla DQ11 on Steam.
Yeah.
Another small addition that version S has is that there is now more combat dialogue between the party, just little snippets of chatter back and forth as different battle situations occur. For example, if another character takes a ton of damage, Erik asks them "Are you alright?!"
It's a tiny change but I like how it makes battles feel more eventful and meaningful.
That wasn't in the original? Interesting
Is this also for the "Definitive Edition", both on Switch and PC?
@@johanhereorahummerhielm9034 yep
@@FunLobsterFacts Thanks! I did hear that the Switch version had pleeenty of slow downs, so I'm going to play it on Xbox Game Pass.
Thanks for the clarification tho!
And now this game is also on Playstation Plus Extra/Premium, such a nice suprise.
I played through S on the Switch without having played or seen the game on PC or more powerful consoles and I honestly had no problem with the image quality. It was a bit soft but it looks good enough and the frame rate is rock solid with zero noticeable dips or hiccups in my 80 hours of playing it.
Obviously the added content is more important than the diminished visuals but that's not the real question. The real question is: why do we even have to choose?
On the Switch it makes sense because of the hardware limitations, not so much on the PC or consoles. Saying the new version was developed for the Switch is a cop-out since things like higher resolution textures or lighting quality aren't anything the newer version of UE couldn't handle on those other platforms. It's just stuff they didn't bother to put back in. This isn't a free update, it's a stand-alone game sold for 40€. The least they could do is match the visual fidelity of the original release. There is no reason it couldn't be done, it's just a matter of cutting costs. We shouldn't have to choose between visuals and features.
@@poika22 I feel like sometimes its very easy for people like us who just play games and don't necessarily make them for a living to say things like this. There could definitely be some technical limitations or just design decisions that inhibited their ability to reuse the older assets when porting S to the more powerful platforms. For me, JRPGs and especially Dragon Quest games have never really been about exploring the limits of graphical fidelity or technical achievement. These types of games are best enjoyed with the story and the characters and that is where DQXI excels in my opinion.
@@dcarpenter85 I know a thing or two about software development. There definitely can be reasons that make reusing the older assets more complicated than simply copy-pasting them in. There aren't reasons that make it unattainable for a company the size of Square Enix. Like I said, it's a matter of cutting costs. It definitely could be done, in the most extreme case they could've remade those assets from the group up if that's what they wanted to do. I doubt it would have been necessary, but it could've been done if they wanted to. They have the resources to do it.
Instead they chose to go the cheapest route, porting it from the Switch with minimal changes. You're free to like the characters and the story and everything else, but none of those things would've been negatively impacted by a better technical execution of the re-release. I'm not saying the game is ruined, just that Square should rightly be criticized for their decision to penny-pinch this release.
@@dcarpenter85 There really isn't. It especially isn't hard for a company as big as square enix
@@poika22 Yep, I can't agree more, if you're going to port a game to PC / PS4/ XBOX and it's called the DEFINITIVE edition then there's no reason it should look worse than the original version of the game on each respective platform, if anything it should actually look better. We have improved graphics in games as the generations go on because graphics / aesthetics are a big component to games, else game consoles would of stopped at the PS3 / 360, because realistically both of those consoles are powerful enough to make any game you want. But we don't do that because everyone knows its important. I'll give an example, if Ghost Of Tsushima had a PS3 version, hypothetically and it was heavily downgraded in visuals, it would ruin the overall atmosphere / immersion / experience of the game. It just wouldn't be the same experience on PS3 as it is on PS4. Having said that, I did just buy the definitive edition on PC, I wanna play that extra content, but it IS annoying that I have to play a downgraded game graphically because SE was lazy.
The orchestral version is just...absolutely incredible, I can't imagine playing this game without it...
I always imagined that the musicians in the orchestra were big DQ fans (in some cases 2nd generation DQ fans!) who were thrilled to be a part of the DQ experience and were absolutely doing their best to make sure the symphonic track was a great addition to the game.
I much prefer the midi myself.
@@tomwalker8944 Same
I don't feel the symphony music was that impactful. It's nice but not game changing
1:17 So you're telling me that, for once, in a big Japanese title like Dragon Quest, the English voice actors are actually the original voice actors?
yeah lmao
nah the opposite lol, there is only japanese in japan
@@rafaelmontillaalvarez6272 Text? Yes. Voice acting? No, and it wasn't even available. Japan didn't get voice acting in *any* Dragon Quest game until Dragon Quest XI S.
@@jonespianist3189 ah yeah, thought u meant english voices were in the japanese version lol. Yeah there were no voices for feeling old school or somth. Only japanese text
@@jonespianist3189 like the original Silent Hill had english voices only in the japanese version
3DS/DS the only unique consoles with unique graphics that gives this console a charm that in whatever year the game was released, it's good.
Far more honest comparison than _"other"_ RUclipsrs tried to pass off when S was released on the Switch.
That's why when I look for reviews, I don't look for ones like IGN, Kotaku, or any of the ones where it's obvious that they're being fake. Often times, it's the video with hardly any views.
@@octolockg5059 Kotaku's 30+ minute review of dragon quest 11 was great although it was biased
@@yersolell654 A 35 minute video is a bit over the top regardless of the amount of content. And judging from the first minute, it is biased. I want to hear from gamers, not people who get paid to say great things.
@@octolockg5059 your opinion is definitely fair and the review is basically just a 35 minute video of praising a game like it is a perfect creation which is not what a review should do, it's more like a fan's perspective
@@yersolell654 The guy says in the first minute that DQ is his favorite video game franchise of all time. So of course it's biased. Get someone who's played a few here and there or someone who's knew to the franchise. Fresh perspective.
I always preffer to play the version with the most available content, so i don't really care for graphics (Even though the game still looks great in every version) Good video Austin, and thank you for correcting the little mistakes from your previous video on the game.
The amount of new content in S was honestly quite staggering, and it's GREAT content too. As the kids say, it hits different.
I agree though I am not buying it at any more that $15 as a owner of the other one but eveyone's problem isn't the bad graphics its how greedy and lazy they were
It's on Xbox game pass if that's of interest to you.
i've been waiting for the S version on pc for a while (dunno if there's gonna be one).. the lack of graphic is not a really concern since the content is massive and QoL features really smoothing the gameplay..
@@glyphgraph8436 Good news! The S version has been out on Game Pass and Steam for about a month now :D
It’s really a shame we never got the 3DS version. It would be easily my pick
I hate how lazy Square is. Instead of adding the new content to the superior PC/PS4 version, they just ported the Switch version.
So what you're saying is, there's no definitive edition? Going to miss seeing those glorious puff puff in HD.
You can play it in HD on Switch or even on Steam if you choose a lower resolution; but right now I don't see any reason to go back to HD when current platforms have better resolutions.
So hard to find turn based RPGs anymore, So glad DQ didn't go the action route so many others have.
Persona, Trails of Cold Steel, and Dragon Quest... I can't think of any other big budget turn based RPGs at the moment
@@viquistzius4664 FFVII Remake has a turn based combat option, but the real time combat is awesome, I can’t imagine why someone would choose turn based over real time in that game
@@eddyrodriguez3865 I didn't play it in classic, I wanted to experience it the way they intended. And it really was awesome! So I probably left it out for those two reasons, not the intented way to play and not the way I played it. But yeah, can't wait for part 2!
Octopath Traveler and soon Bravely Default II.
@@eddyrodriguez3865 It's not turn based, the game just moves and auto attacks for you while you as the player just control the combat menu.
It’s weird how an Japanese 3ds is the only platform where you can play every single main Dragon Quest
Not X but I agree with your point
@@theinfernoburns There is actually a 3ds version of DQX
I mean Dragonquest is basically 80 percent of the Japanese economy if they did not do that Japan would have burned down a long time ago from Japanese fans outrage
Damn such a pitty my vanilla wont get a update. Those improvements are insane.
I feel a bit betrayed.
Same, I'm definitely not buying it a second time. I'm boycotting for that matter, might as well pirate it.
@@Lexyvil exactly.
It's so fucked up that the PS4 version of 11S is just the Switch version. I just wanted the PS4 version with the new stuff!
@@Lexyvil Just wait three years until you buy a new game. Then you get everything you want to.
Maybe a PC lighting mod, or reshade can fix that
The grass is way less dense on DE too, sadly.
While I love having a pc but I've yet to play a game where I don't have to install a mod or tweak settings in my cpu, gpu, and any other software that relates to anything that a game requires even down to audio software.
@@indefatigableargonaut What kind of games are you playing? I have around 100 PC games and only 2 require mods to run properly (Dark Souls 1 and NieR Automata) and I have very old games that shouldn't run or have a lot of conflict with newer hardware
Finn & Jake "tweak settings in my GPU or CPU"
lol
@@gorgnof lmao yea, this dude has no idea what he's talking about
Looking at the graphical differences in this video makes me think even more that the people who complain about them are freaking mental.
its a wonderful toriyama-esque world of wonder and fantasy but people are loosing their shit about minuscule details like those gaps in graphical quality , I seriously feel negativity its killing gaming slowly
At some parts of the video, I couldn’t tell which graphics were supposed to look better...
I agree. Difference is so freaking small. Just shut up and enjoy the massive content upgrade 🙄 I bought the original XI a long time ago and had to sell it for some extra scratch. Regretted it immediately, but now I'm stoked because it just means I won't feel like I wasted my money buying it again for all this cool shit
Yeah this 60fps 4k ready crap is annoying really 90% of the games don't have a proper story just shot and that's it 8-12 hours, dragon quest 100-120 great story I take that thank you very much.
The symphonic version ost.... hell yes!
The obvious choice is the Definitive Edition. Yes it is stupid that DE is downgraded graphics wise and I'm not defending SE for doing this but the fact there is (or was) an actual debate about which version to play is hella pathetic. The game barely looks any different. And I guarantee you that anyone who chooses OG 11 over 11S is going to regret it (unless they got it on PC where improvement mods are usable). There are far too many improvements in 11S to just write it off because "the lighting is slightly worse" lol
Only real downside of S I see is the lighting looks slightly worse. Content wise it’s no competition.
Even then the lighting could be a matter of taste (I personally prefer the way it looks in S)! Still an amazing game no matter what
It's more than just the lighting. Character models and grass took a major hit as well
The funny part is it looks like S has better textures. Like, by far. And then worse everything else, heh. I do agree the lighting could be preferential but it looks more natural in vanilla.
Aliasing on S is jarring!
Nah there is a looooot more that looks worse on S. Lighting, grass, polycount on models is a third of the OG version for some models, blurry textures, water, fire.. it goes on and on. It doesn't seem too big a deal at first until you really start actually comparing the more mid game area's.
I didn't even know there was a 3DS version. I kinda want to give it a go.
Kinda Japanese version only
"Stupid game I've been waiting for 2 minutes already, also what are you doi-"
That version is in the Switch version? You can play it in that style
That futaba though
I wished it got ported on PS Vita :(
Although it is a shame that the "definitive edition" of the game does not have the definitive graphical quality, all of the quality of life changes and the slew of extra content will make up for worse quality graphics. DQ11S is definitive in just about every other way and is worth playing over the original.
I'll put my faith in the modders!
Mods for me!
@NazarioCharlie what kind of mods?
@NazarioCharlieBut read where?
@NazarioCharlie It's a different system though according to modders. The updated unreal engine makes it tougher to do any modding of the graphics because its not the same system.
I played the whole 10 hour demo on switch. Then I went and finally installed my orignal steam copy and added the Orchestral OST mod. Much much more playable IMO. Since it's all still new to me, missing out on extra side content is no problem. 200 hour game already, ya know.
My biggest disappointment was that the enemies weren’t animated in the 2D version. It would’ve been so nice had the enemies been animated like they were in DQ7.
The lighting is terrible in S... absolutely horrendous. And by the way, SE just solve the "choise problem" for you guys: you can't buy the vanilla version anymore lol
IMO, even I wait the release on Xbox One to play it at 4K60 on my One X, the visual is not the main thing that import in a Dragon Quest, it's the OST, and now with the port of XI S we're going to have the orchetral ost on any version, and that is great !
My first DQ was 9 on the DS and I loved it. Never played one since untill I saw 11S was on the switch and figured I could use the nostalgia dopamine. I have loved every bit of the 70+( and going) hours I've dumped into it.
(Except for sailing encounters)
Played the normal-, aswell as the s version and im absolutely in love with this game. The s version is a bit better. Orchestrated music, cosmetic gear, got rid of the annoying target quest, more story that covers the background of the crewmates and the crack in the sky endgame mission with the most op item ever as a reward. + the tickling quests have a nice charm
At least the target quest gave you something to use the crossbow for, now it just gets in the way when trying to get a free hit on enemies. If they were going to get rid of the target quest, they could’ve at least also added an option to turn off the crossbow.
just started playing on pc, game really is beautiful.
Only downside i see is that my save data for Vanillia doesn't transfer to S. Thats it
The new version looks like garbage. The OG version with the orchestrated music mod is the best.
@@The2808erik im playing it on ps4 not pro, or 5, or series or PC. I already had seen tiling issues with the OG version so I'm good. A downgrade in texture and lighting that can be bumped back up after a few updates isn't all that bad. And yes they can update it if it gets enough negative feedback
@@hyozanrutheexiledfab Will they, is the question. I'm holding of on buying DQ11S until they actually update the assets and lightning, I highly doubt they will. Square Enix does not have a good track record with ports.
@@hyozanrutheexiledfab Less grass, static grass, worst textures, worst lighting system, low poly characters models etc etc. Honestly the downgrade is massive when you have played the original game first. It needs way more than just a patch to fix that. And the worst is that you can't even buy the original game on Steam and Psn anymore... fuck Square Enix really. The original is a master piece and a brilliant example of good 3D cell shading this poor port is a shame
@@femto8402 well I guess that's where I forgot to mention. I got it on ps4. And I still have the original. I only got the deluxe since I dont have access to the orchestra mod or 2d mode. All in all the game still plays the same but bad port. I've had worse trust me. Yall don't wanna touch XIII remake.
I'll copy-paste this comment about DQ11's lighting:-
The original game used Enlighten, which bakes better lighting at higher resolutions, with better Global Illumination and bounce, and has much less expensive realtime lighting support, Enlighten does exist for Nintendo Switch however it's rather costly, so square have opted to use standard unreal baked lightmaps for the Switch version, so the lighting looks very different.
Source : www.reddit.com/r/dragonquest/comments/jmssyp/comparison_between_4k_pc_original_and_definitive/gay909w/
*Hey thanks for citing this!!* This is really good to know
The S version is such a big middle finger to everyone it shouldn't be full price to orginal owners. The orginal shouldn't be delisted and the graphics should be the same if not better
13:28 agreed, I went into it on Switch and loved it, I never really felt the graphics were poor or anything. Only after I beat the game did I really notice how good the game could’ve looked when I watched PS4 gameplay, but I still think S is the best version regardless.
Agreed lol
Switch have the best version of any port
It can't be overstated how much of an improvement S is over the original. It also can't be overstated how gorgeous the original looks. It pains me to see a compromise be made. Curious why they decided to call the console version of S "The Definitive Edition," as almost zero improvements were made to take advantage of the beefier hardware.
Playing on switch last year and then on PS5 now is a world of a difference. It looks gorgeous on PlayStation and FPS is better
I spent almost 100+ hours into this game on my switch! This is a true masterpiece! 👌The end game is good which made me maxed out my party too.
I am nearly 60 hours into this game, and it still feels like I'm only halfway done 😭
Thats because you are 😂
Honestly this game is so long I’m playing through it right now on the Xbox one S
Just make sure you guys play the post game. Thats where the adventure really starts!
@@LuinK1 oh no. It really is gonna be 100 hours 🤣. When I first saw how long this game was i didn't believe any of it, yet here I am
Switch convinced me good enough. Lol.
And I also wanted to correct myself from another reply.....I thought this game was ported to ps5/series XS but its not..... my bad.
@@jamesblas6427 You can still play it on those systems via backcompat.
Nah.....don't have ps5. But it's cool to no need to rush buying it until they fix all the weird ass shit that's happening to it.....like system weird bugs if any....and also controller drift.
This is the first jrpg ( i think is called) i played on mi life and tbh la the Best Game i played on My life y love all the characters and the history Even thougth is a easy Game is the Best i played and i may sound like a weido/strange xd but i cried several times whit the Game and i haven't finish it yet i have 90h of gameplay tbh the Best 90h of My life (sorry for the bad gramar)
Don’t worry dude! Welcome to the jrpg world! If you have a PlayStation console you should check the persona saga (it’s an jrpg really really good which is half jrpg combat and dungeon exploring and half high school simulator (sounds kinda weird but it’s one of the best series of all time) I recommend the new one persona 5 royal for the ps4, but you can play persona 5 (which it’s like the first version the game) in ps3
If you play in pc you could check persona 4 golden in steam it’s my favorite game of all time
God bless Xbox Game Pass!! I was originally planning to buy it on PS4 (since i platinumed the original Dragon Quest XI) but i bought an Xbox Series S and this enhanced version will be on game pass. So i don't have to spend much to replay this game. :)
The fact they did not give a discount to previous ps4 owners means i wont be playing this game at all anymore.
It is not big enough of a upgrade for me to be buying the game again, they even removed the old game so it is more a replacement.
I already got annoyed with this with persona 5 royal, but in the end it made sense because the games are very different to play.
Man, I really wanted this game on 3DS. I've played so many DQ games on ds systems, playing it on other things seems weird. Great game though.
Trust me, actually playing the game on Switch looks so much better than what is shown in this video.
meh... I ain't to picky about graphic when it come to games like this
mainly cuz the art style carry it way more then just raw Graphics
I play it on the switch because the pick up and play flexibility of the switch is the reason, i can play it on my TV, and then if i want i can take it along with me
Would definitely play the 3DS version if it were available but as an aspiring streamer and a longtime Dragon Quest fan I think i'd like to pick up the PC version of DQXIS and this video was very helpful in pushing me to make a final decision. SO thank you for a concise and to the point video with plenty of information!
On my Xbox, I was having fun knocking enemies around on the Great Sabercat. The S version is great.
I wish I knew about DQ XI "S" seems to be A LOT better, wish they let you update from Vanilla ~> S
A by the books JRPG from the ones who wrote the books, pretty apt way of putting it!
Nintendo switch port is the best. Change my mind
Agree 100%. All these comparisons makes me wanna play again in 2D this time.
played the switch one when it released and its definitely worth it. the game looks amazing and its nice being able to take it wherever if i need to whether im simply grinding while wasting time irl or playing docked in my bed. lovely game and i have no issues w it. if not switch might as well go for pc port
Ahhh the 3DS version looks so good, wish we got it.
For those interested, you can easily mod in the orchestral music into the PC version.
But the midi music is better....
Huh I always wondered why the LOD and draw distance was so awful at max settings on PC but now I know it's because the Switch has absolute garbage hardware.
The game is perfect on pc everyone that like jrpgs should play it. It's the game I dreamt when I was a kid playing FF.
There should be a PS5 proper version, called Dragon Quest XI S: Unreal Engine 5 and Octopath Style Edition. 3D Mode would be Unreal Engine 5 3D graphics being close to the FMVs. 2D Mode would become Octopath Style, using the assets of the upcoming Dragon Quest III remake.
I was actually scheptical about the Definitive Edition looking worse because it's based on the Switch build, but today I played both the original on PS4 Pro and DE on Series X and man, there is a difference. Sure, DE has 60fps support on SX and all those extras, but man it does look a lot weaker than the original.
can anyone else only play with the japanese dub because of how bad the voice actors accents are ahahhaa
I’m mad because I can’t play the 3ds version and I can’t even find any gameplay on it either.
I played the Switch and Vanilla version and put so many hours in it. You bet your sweet ass I’m about to buy it rn and play all over again.
I'm stil playing Switch on new game plus and getting all the outfits
my Main Problem is, that SE, as soon as S released (or some months later) just stopped supporting vanilla entirely. I bought the Game on PS4 when it released, not knowing they would report the S Version back then or update it with new stuff... It's kinda like what they did with FFXV and the Royal Edition (which I didn't buy then either). What is so hard giving us a full game, or at least let us upgrade to the "newer" version (with graphical downgrade even...) wish they would have considered updating vanilla, instead of porting the S version... Thanks for the video, will play vanilla to the end, hence I bought it...
Not gonna lie the lighting and models are really noticeable when directly compared but the content is the important part here and S brings a lot of content to the table.
Plus, knowing modders, it won't be long until we get to see improvements on the graphic side on the PC. Even if it doesn't happen, content beats graphics any day.
Great video, always helpful knowing what to expect.
True, but funnily enough, I actually think that the lighting on character models actually looks much better in the DE edition than the original. Don't like how it looks on everything else though. And obviously foilage is now way worse, unquestionably.
I'm 45hrs in and only NOW learned that you can set the battle speed to "Fast/Ultra Fast"...
It looks and runs great on Xbox series x
@@iNeed2Pi yes its stable, havent had any framedrops in the 3hrs i played so far.
The loading times are crazy fast on Series X btw.
I'd love the option to play with the 3D graphics of the 3Ds, I love how the characters in that version are drawn
Thanks for the info, I was a bit doubtful if I should continue the Vanilla on PC or get the S on discount but I'm definitely going to keep playing the vanilla. ^^
The textures took a huge hit hopefully mods can give an option
Gotta disagree
They are different, but I think the new textures fit the art style 10x better than the og
It's not that terrible tbh
I might have to give this a shot on Series X.
I'm playing it on the series X right now. Runs great and super fast loading times
I wish the new PS4 version combined the graphics of the original PS4 game and the content of the Switch one, then it would truly be the definitive one.
Excellent work! Always looking forward to your videos.
in steam you can also play in japanese both text and voice now ...
Thank you for this video, i'm a big fan of DQ series but didn't play XI yet, thank to you i'll go for the XI S version on ps4, have a nice day
The fact there is no upgrade path available for pc to S honestly pisses me off lol.....
The fact I can't even buy the original pc version anymore on Steam piss me off too
@@femto8402 Just pirate it. There is a re-pack on internet somewhere (but you also gota patch the protection after).
@@Bullminator Yes I did now but I really prefer to have my games on Steam it is way more convenient. And I can't even find a fuc**** cd key for this game wtf
Are the old DQXI saves going to be compatible with the S version? That's the only thing that comes to mind. I will wait for drastic sales and the modding community since Square can't do anything good nowadays.
As he stated, this is on a newer version of the engine and why they couldn't simply patch the game because of so many changes at the foundation of the game. So it wouldn't be viable to transfer saves.
Probably not. The game was made in a modified engine and all the new content will probably not make it possible to do a 1:1 save transfer without something getting lost of corrupted along the way.
It WOULD be pretty nice if they implemented something like the passwords from the Japanese releases to do that
Meanwhile, I'll just play it on Xbox, since it's the only way I can. I ain't got a pc, switch, 3ds, or PlayStation. Plus it's on Game Pass on Xbox.
It's a shame that they didn't bother to take the extra time to move the higher quality assets from the original 11 to 11S. I think the lack of the more advanced lighting makes the latter look a lot flatter. However, it's a testament to the Switch version that 11S still looks extremely good on Xbox and PS4.
I started this game on Xbox one S. And I'm continuing it on the Series X. And it looks amazing with Auto HDR,
such an incredible feature.
I am a sucker for more content than something that super pretty (I learned my lesson from the 360/PS3 era)
Which examples did you find?
I have played thru both the original PS4 release and the new Switch version, and while the new content on the Switch version is nice, the graphical difference is jarring to say the least. It's far more noticeable in motion while playing them in person. The texture detail and dynamic lighting effects are the biggest changes, and the difference is pretty massive. Enough so that I greatly prefer the original PS4 release over the Switch version, even without the extra content.
They also did away with one of my favorite features of the original PS4 version, First Person View mode. The graphics can be absolutely gorgeous in that game, and being able to zoom in on them whenever you want is really nice. The lighting effects in particular as light bounces off reflective surfaces such as floors and walls is particularly beautiful looking.
It’s never good when “sprinting was added.”
The only issue i have is there's no upgrade path. Yes, it can't be patched. But at least give us a damn discount if we already bought the full game once before!
All of them!
Switch would be my vote for DQXI S. I played the original DQXI on PS4. If I play again it'll be on Switch due to portability. It's such a long game, being able to play anywhere helps.
Switch has the best version, why? Handheld mode. I just don't see myself sitting in front of a TV for a long time to play 100+ hour(s) RPGs
nintendo SIMP
This game was ruined for me by grief, shitty game practices, and a spoiler filled youtube thumbnail.
The thing that still bothers me to this day is the feeling of being punished for being an initial adopter of the game. I was playing it steadily enough, but after losing someone due to a story beat, I legit got Aerith syndrome and struggled to continue playing. Since then, I only periodically turned the game on, and whenever I did, I just ran laps in that floating battleground area grinding against liquid metal slimes. I was so devastated that I just couldn't continue. When they announced the S version and I realized it wasn't going to be a DLC patch I felt even less incentive to want to play. Like, why bother? My version of the game is pointless now. This added to the weirdly growing list of games I already owned that got ported to the switch with enhanced content. I'm very frugal when it comes to buying games I already own, just for some minor upgrades, unless it's old game on dead hardware.
As is my luck, while searching around listening to DQ OSTs, my recommend tab happened to just show a full ass spoiler for 11's ending. So now, all that heartache I went through seems to have been for nothing and I don't know what to do. There might be a lot more game left than I realized...and I really don't want to buy it again. By now, I've gotten everyone but Serena to 99 (she's only 96) and filled out all but one character's skill tree. I don't mind replaying a long RPG...but not one I was still currently playing.
The principle of the whole thing never stopped rubbing me the wrong way. It just reeks of Capcom's nonsense back during the Street Fighter 4 & Marvel 3 days or Pokemon's "DLC" version bullshit. Seeing my version eventually get de-listed with no upgrade option whatsoever was also a mighty slap in the face. Like, how the hell was anyone supposed to know that you were going to basically remaster the game a few years later?
They just want you to drop this game and buy the "correct" version of it. I didn't own a switch at the time, which made it all the more irritating that the proper version wasn't even available to me. Hell, we never even got the 3DS version, which I was hoping for. Now that S is out and has been for a while, I still don't know how to feel about it.
You’d have to be really stupid to choose graphics over the amount of content your getting with S.
Frames are more important anyway and this game delivers on that.
You're correct there but at the same time there's no excuse for not updating the graphics and not to mention on Steam there is no choice new players can't buy the og version only the new one these anti-consumer moves by Square are inexcusable hopefully the modders can fix the graphics part.
It looks different, but I'm not sure that it looks worse. In some of the examples I prefer the new version rather than the original. I'm almost sure that most people who call this a "downgrade" wouldn't be able to tell which version is the original and which one is the S version if presented both side to side.
Honestly, if there was a western 3DS version, I'd play it.
I dont think the graphics should EVER be the dealbreaker for a game. If the game is good, it's good. I dont give a crap what the graphics are.
ART STYLE, on the other hand, I can see why that would be an issue for some. My brother doesnt bother with Dragon Quest purely because he hates the Toriyama Style. Which is strange, because he has an undying passion for RPGS.
You have to play the S version. No matter what console you play it on, you're in for a hell of a ride.
Yeah the extra stuff is cool and that final boss was a b***h, timewyrm
I bought the original version and I prob wont be buying the new version. There is no upgrade discount on PC, so i'd have to buy a whole new game. And, the content added doesn't really meet the expectation of buying a new game. If I were buying just the S version, I'd but that. But to buy a whole new game just for a couple of new bosses, eh, not worth. The quality of life changes really mean a lot, but since I already 100% the original version QOF means nothing to me.
Just started playing the other day and loving it so far.
Enjoy, it’s a very long game. I got it the day it came out on Switch, and I’m still playing it.
I beated it long ago, but I might come back to it to beat the ultra boss and start a draconian file lol
I can't believe Japanese developers can suck this much at making PC games. How hard is it to understand that people want the best version of the game on PC? Not some parts are better and some are worse. Hopefully they patch this but seeing as DQXIS is not out on PS5 yet, it might be a while.
Thanks for the extensive comparison, it was exactly what I was looking for. Big thumbs up for being so succinct yet highly detailed too.
God.. such a bitter sweet situation.. 4k and 60fps is great. Along with the added content and quality of life improvements.. but the lighting, textures and most of all the grass took a big hit..
Its just such a shame that its so close to being perfect.
Started playing the demo over the weekend on Xbox Series X. Looks great at 60fps and loads really fast. The colours really pop due to HDR being added by Xbox series consoles' Auto HDR mode.