#94 Double Towing with 5th Wheel vs Toy Hauler - How to Double Tow - 2021 Road Glide Special

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  • Опубликовано: 14 дек 2024

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  • @mrpickle219
    @mrpickle219 6 месяцев назад +1

    Great video. I've been double towing for over 15 years. Winter time I tow with a 2024 crewcab Duramax 3500, 30 ft 5th wheel and then I have a 12 ft side by side trailer that is 68 ft long. In the summertime I tow a 21-ft ski boat behind the fifth wheel for a total length of 73 ft. When I tow with the boat behind the fifth wheel, it actually performs better due to the double axles compared to the side by side which has a single axle. Each second trailer has brakes on it. I've never been hassled by the CHP or had any troubles getting fuel. The only requirement I had to get was a CDL with a double triples endorsement and medical. Do like the looks I get when people see us.

  • @uuuch5713
    @uuuch5713 Год назад +1

    Video very well planned & executed! hits on all the topics w/o wandering off in the weeds, thank you

  • @paulroesner
    @paulroesner 2 года назад +7

    Great video. Thanks! We are thinking about doing the same thing. You can move through most states that support double towing with a 65ft or smaller total length. Small to medium toy-haulers have all sacrificed living areas. Very small counter space, lack of couch or cabinet space, awkwardly placed small appliances, etc. Nothing useful for full-time living. We would miss a nice drop door patio though. ;) The rear camera is a must! I would like a separate "space" for poop tank, generators, bicycles, gas cans, etc. Moving through gas stations would kind of suck. I'd have to get use to backing up. Our ideal setup is a 35ft~ fifth-wheel and a 6x10 enclosed trailer.

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  2 года назад +3

      Yes, you do have to plan a bit at campsites and getting fuel. I just use truck stops if I can. Double towing looks hard but its really not a big deal. Just make sure you have the right equipment and don't overload. You will be good to go.

    • @paulroesner
      @paulroesner 6 месяцев назад

      @@timbertimeoutdoors9836 Well, we finally did it. Double towed 400 miles across Arkansas and Tennessee! And it was actually very doable! The second trailer tracks and turns very well. Since we've upgraded to a diesel since I originally wrote, going through the tractor pumps is ideal! I tried to back up for the fun of it, and it will take some practice. For now, I'll just drop the trailer off and plan ahead. Thanks again for the motivational video.

  • @fiveowaf454
    @fiveowaf454 Год назад +3

    The biggest problem with double towing is the overall length. In most states it's 65 feet, I think Wyoming is 85 feet, but this includes the tow vehicle, so the rig shown here is illegal in every state I'm aware of at about 90 feet overall. I double tow with my current small travel trailer, but am looking to upgrade to a bigger travel trailer and am not sure which route to take. It seems the length laws are rarely, if ever, enforced given the rigs I see on the roads, but if you get unlucky it could prove very expensive, and then there's the insurance aspect as to how they may respond to a big accident, if you are over length.

  • @JanetColeman-v1i
    @JanetColeman-v1i Год назад

    Thank you for posting this I too am going to be double towing across the country high total length is 64 1/2 ft long your video helped build my confidence.

  • @daveprice5238
    @daveprice5238 Год назад

    Thanks for a very informative video. You have convinced us to give it a try. We will see you on the open trail.

  • @MrJuventino451
    @MrJuventino451 Год назад +1

    Going to give it a shot this weekend. Taking my 35ft Heartland Bighorn and a jet ski. Luckily not much tongue weight on that jet ski trailer

  • @awsomedude9111
    @awsomedude9111 Год назад

    Randomly came to this video from RUclips, kinda never thought of any good toy hauler campers but this seems like the best setup. Didn’t know this is possible.
    My Grand Dad has a truck camper, my Dad has a Toy hauler and Van. Pros on Cons of Class A and different types, but this seems like the best of everything.

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  Год назад +2

      This is a common way to haul toys out west. Less so as you get east. Not sure why but that is what I have seen. Momma would go for the Toy Hauler. She likes the homie feel of the 5er. Pros and cons to both but this works good for us.

  • @Carter-X
    @Carter-X Год назад +1

    This is awesome I personally don't like trucks just seem pointless for getting around. But when I see a truck towing a setup like that I'm like "Hell yeah trucks are bad ass Merica" 😅
    Very nice man I hope to have a set up like that one day

  • @CruizinWithTheCarsons
    @CruizinWithTheCarsons 2 года назад

    G'day fellow Minnesotan, Pine City Mn here. Great video and new subscriber. Double towing is definitely not for the faint of heart. We have a Solitude 380FL, Duramax dually and we double tow our RZR 2 seater. Had a toy hauler but just didn't care for the loss of living space when docked. What I started doing was utilizing a 55 gallon auxiliary fuel tank in my truck. That gives me 91 gallons of fuel which allows me to run out to about 650 miles before needing fuel. We started planning our stops at 400-500 miles when we go to Az and back for the winter, unhook and set up for the night, go fuel up after unhooking. That way we never have to worry about getting in or out of truck stops or gas stations. Great video brother and SKOL Vikes, lol.

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  2 года назад

      SKOL! Thanks for the sub and comments. Great advice. Stay safe out there.

    • @dieselmutt8865
      @dieselmutt8865 2 года назад

      How do you get by with the length restrictions with that combination? That 65' limit a lot of states have makes double towing kind of a deal breaker.

  • @toddsoutsideagain
    @toddsoutsideagain 2 года назад +3

    Wow! That’s a load! I’m actually sitting in front of our 5th wheel at Rend Lake in Southern Illinois drinking coffee as we speak! I just released a short vid on this campground this morning. You made some good points on the plus side of double towing. I’m not a fan of toy haulers. You should do some short campground vids when you are out in the 5th wheel. It’s helpful to fellow campers looking for new places to explore. Thanks for shariring👍🏻👍🏻.. T.O.A.

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  2 года назад +1

      I agree. I am always looking to campground info too. I will see what I can come up with. Thanks or the idea. Always need more content

  • @nal13nal13
    @nal13nal13 Год назад +1

    Thank you for calling it double towing and not triple towing. I just bought a 5th wheel with a tow hitch on the back and am planning on double towing in Wisconsin and other midwest states.

  • @AllanCunningham-u1h
    @AllanCunningham-u1h Год назад

    Thank you for this video, we love riding sxs and have been debating on this.
    Toy haulers are longer and will not fit in a lot of Michigan state campgrounds for just camping.
    And would like to take my 14ft boat sometimes. Going this route.

  • @andrewhanson241
    @andrewhanson241 2 месяца назад

    I have been double towing for years. I want to upgrade to an enclosed trailer. I am worried about the second trailer being heavier than the lead trailer. Thoughts?

  • @ronhiggins6629
    @ronhiggins6629 Год назад

    Totally agree only suggestion tandem trailer

  • @MateoJohn-e6p
    @MateoJohn-e6p 8 месяцев назад

    @Timber Time Outdoors Not sure of the year of your 5th wheel but i have a similar wildcat which i tow doubles with. I was experiencing the same tire wear. It wasnt until i was servicing my slide out that I found cracks in my frame in front and back of axle hangers on both sides. Ive ran into other wildcat owners that have the same issue without pulling doubles. You may want to take a look at yours.

  • @agentbullwinkle991
    @agentbullwinkle991 2 года назад +4

    Here's another advantage to double towing:
    If you have a 37ft fifth wheel and a 13ft pup trailer (37+13=50) then you can make tighter turns than you could with a single 50ft trailer.

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  2 года назад +1

      Really good point. I see so many huge toy haulers and think that would actually be harder to tow that a double tow set up.

    • @spyder2383
      @spyder2383 Год назад +1

      You are assuming all toy haulers are 50', really?

  • @Means2anEnd6611
    @Means2anEnd6611 Год назад

    Great video! Thank you for all that information. My wife and I have a 5th wheel camper, along with a Harley Davidson Tri Glide. We would love to start taking it along with us while we are camping. I'm thinking about pulling a trailer behind the 5th wheel. Does your Harley trailer have brakes on it? Some videos I've seen have them, and some don't. Just wondering what your setup is. Thanks again!

  • @greghobaugh1458
    @greghobaugh1458 Год назад

    I'm thinking about doing this, my question that hasn't been answered in any video is. Do I want or need to run brakes on the second trailer? I will be pulling a open utility, with a motorcycle. Thanks for any help. I'm a commercial driver, so I'll go add double/triple endorsement to my license

  • @Frontpagefab
    @Frontpagefab 5 месяцев назад

    does the rv bounce affect the 2nd trailer going down the road?

  • @kevonzehner8808
    @kevonzehner8808 7 месяцев назад

    Check out the Freedom Hauler. Takes care of the backing problem.

  • @louisianaweekends7908
    @louisianaweekends7908 9 месяцев назад

    Did you fifth wheel have an existing pig tail for the second trailer?

  • @Gopher7
    @Gopher7 10 месяцев назад

    Wife and I just bought a UTV that is 13' long and our 5'er is "officially 33' but is nearly 36' long. I built a great hitch that will far exceed anything hooked on it than the 5'er suspension will take, and I have driven big trucks pulling doubles for over 3 million miles so maneuvering does not concern me,.
    What does is I will likely be about 70' long like you. Going to the SW in the winter like I plan to from somewhere in ND I will likely go through some 65' length states. Does law enforcement pay attention to the extra 5'? Have you every had any issues?
    Just trying now to decide if I want to go the enclosed route, or a lightweight aluminum (open) trailer.
    Great content! Thanks!

  • @adammiller8415
    @adammiller8415 Год назад

    I mix the toy hauler and double towing together lol. I haul a sxs in my toy hauler and haul my boat behind my toy hauler. Total of 72 feet long. I feel it should be a law that the fifth wheel should have to have a camera to observe the tail trailer. They are a must

  • @GorisGreen
    @GorisGreen 2 года назад +1

    Excellent explanations. I have double towed with my 22 foot boat and it get's pretty squirely on the highway. Could you explain in more detail the tongue weight situation. Also, how did you wire your fifth wheel for your caboose? Thanks

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  2 года назад

      Tongue weight is critical. Rule of thumb is 10% to 15% of the total load. I shoot for 12%. Most hitches are maxed out at 300lbs of tongue weight so max load would be 3000. If you boat is more that 3000lbs, I would not recommend the double tow. I had a pro install my hitch and wiring. I believe they tapped the wires into the tail lights.

    • @GorisGreen
      @GorisGreen 2 года назад +1

      @@timbertimeoutdoors9836 thanks for the update. I too had a local welding pro replace the factory bike hitch with something beefed up. Did the wiring myself, no fire or melted wires and they all work LOL.

  • @willcornelius2217
    @willcornelius2217 7 месяцев назад

    I need to move my camper which i plan to live out of at first from nc to fl to live but I need my enclosed to come with that has my tools..could I not just fill up gas jugs am full my truck and keep in the enclosed so I don’t have to find a gas station.its like 10 hr drive and I’ll be using a Escalade with a 6.0 awd so my camper is 30ft enclosed is 6x11

  • @tambs575
    @tambs575 2 года назад +1

    Not sure where you tow out of, but what do you do when your route crosses a state line into a state that prohibits doubles? For instance, it is legal to tow doubles in Idaho, but not Washington. So do you simply not travel to ‘WA’, for example, with a set of doubles in tow?

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  2 года назад

      That is a tough one. So far, I have not been to a state where it is illegal. That would be a big plus for the Toy Hauler I guess.

  • @slimttn
    @slimttn Год назад

    Thank you so much for your advice. I think I’m leaning towards this method, cheers!

  • @09X19
    @09X19 2 года назад +1

    Nope. You are much braver than I. I get nervous towing a utility trailer. That setup in narrow construction zones would wreck me…and maybe the trailers too. Haha

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  2 года назад

      Yes, its a leap of faith but I am surprised at how easy this actually is.

  • @gregwalker731
    @gregwalker731 2 года назад +1

    Thank You! Been thinking about doing this for awhile.

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  2 года назад

      Like I said in the video, its a lot easier than it looks. Just takes a bit more planning

  • @dougconley8993
    @dougconley8993 Год назад

    I did it ,it was fine. Went back to a good toyhauler, garage is very versatile. The cargo trailer has no brakes in most cases,which is very dangerous in the wrong hands.

  • @Darren-lr3jq
    @Darren-lr3jq 10 месяцев назад +1

    My plan is to do this with a toy hauler so I can pull my small boat to the coast

  • @daveczarnecki8656
    @daveczarnecki8656 Год назад

    For the first time I will be triple towing using a Ford F350, 34' 5Th wheel, and a 12' trailer with a sxs on it. Just pulling my 5Th wheel I get between 9-11mpg. What do you think I'll get triple towing? What was your experience with this same comparison?
    Thanks!

    • @mrpickle219
      @mrpickle219 6 месяцев назад +1

      It's not triple towing. It doubles.

  • @ericstanley7973
    @ericstanley7973 2 года назад

    Good video..im about to double tow a bumper to bumper pull, well see how it goes

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  2 года назад

      Yikes. Good luck and safe travels

    • @Nonplused
      @Nonplused Год назад

      As in both trailers are bumper pulls? I don't think that's legal. I think the first trailer has to be a fifth.

  • @MiloNelson-vo3vh
    @MiloNelson-vo3vh 6 месяцев назад

    Have toy hauler 40 foot . But if you have th there frame is built to handle loads on rear, so I pull my bass boat with 150 black max. MY bumper can handle hitch bolted on 20,000 lb. But the one thing I can do is take clothes, hunting and fishing equipment, side by side refrigerator, air compressor, floor jack. More storage then you have trailer and truck but I pull 23 foot boat and trailer with cameras on both sides in rear of TH. Have generator and 3 heavy axles, 1 ton dodge easy trucking.

  • @goodtalker
    @goodtalker Год назад

    Hello sir. Is possible to double tow a bumper pull and a small trailer in the back? Thanks. Have a nice day.

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  Год назад

      In most states this is illegal. I would not recommend it. Can be very dangerous.

    • @goodtalker
      @goodtalker Год назад

      @@timbertimeoutdoors9836 Thank you. Have a nice day.

    • @big8x102
      @big8x102 Год назад +1

      I've done double ball hitch. Legal in CA. I was not licensed for doubles, but very experienced trailer driver. For years before, every time I saw a a CHP officer (fast food joint, etc.) I would would ask them "Can I talk to you about towing doubles with my RV". Every time I got the same response..."you need to talk to the commercial division CHP guys, we don't know that stuff". I got the message....Hook up and tow the double, you'll never get stopped. As for the safety of ball to ball, it depends on your specific trailer setup. My trailer number 1 was a 32 ft Prowler ball hitch (34 ft ball to bumper), and trailer number 2 was a jet ski trailer (about 15 ft). Driving JUST my trailer number one, I would sometimes get some trailer sway, as is typical with a ball hitch. I was concerned that if trailer number 1 started to sway, then the jet ski trailer might REALLY start to sway, and maybe even whip. With my particular setup, the opposite happened. The jet ski trailer actually acted like a secondary dampener, and prevented any sway in trailer number 1. Very easy pull and comfortable. First time out, about 20 minutes into the drive I see a CHP vehicle up ahead parked sideways doing traffic enforcement. I said "OK kids, here is the first test". Drove right by. I was about 72 feet, with a max length of 65, but the jet ski trailer looked so small compared to trailer number 1, it didn't look overly long in total. I now have an AZ drivers license, so I am legal to tow doubles on my regular drivers license, and now have a fifth wheel RV. If you are experienced enough, just to it.

    • @goodtalker
      @goodtalker Год назад

      @@big8x102 Thanks a lot. Much appreciated. Roy, So Cal.

  • @MiloNelson-vo3vh
    @MiloNelson-vo3vh 7 месяцев назад

    If you want to have some things like clothes, freezer or refrigerator, few vegetable plants, compressor 2 ton jack. I also pull 18.5 foot skeeter with 150 mercury. I have storage bunk inside rv and 14x8 storage area and onan generator fuel tank and all my tools. Fall,winter,spring,and summer clothes.. we Live In Ares full time and have plenty of room and storage. I don't know about you but I have to have my stuff. Yes I also have alot of guns and golf clubs and alot of fishing equipment. Sorry for me toy haulers are built stronger and can handle no power or off road.

  • @rolandroche4065
    @rolandroche4065 Год назад

    Do you have brakes on your utility trailer?

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  Год назад

      No. I take it slow. I don't load it down too much so has been a problem so far

  • @plem7210
    @plem7210 2 года назад +2

    The only thing that scares me. Is when I see people double towing with single rear wheel trucks. Or a big Camper with single rear wheel truck. The Dually trucks are way more stabile pulling stuff like that. Not to mention I doubt anybody using a single wheel truck with a decent size camper with a trailer behind it is legal. I think they could easily get over the gross truck rating. Unless they are using a dually.

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  2 года назад

      You are right about that for sure. I think all the newer trucks, 2020 or newer have much higher payload ratings but with anything older, many towers will be over the limit. I have to be careful with my set up as I am pushing it with this camper and truck.

    • @witkr904
      @witkr904 2 года назад

      Modern single wheel 3500 trucks will have a 4500 load capacity and a 21k towing limit. With doubles, the camper has to be so short to obey length limits I don’t see a way you could go over 10k on camper and maybe 3000 on second trailer anyway.

    • @kenj.8897
      @kenj.8897 Год назад

      @@witkr904 a diesel single rear 3500 won't have a 4500lb payload capacity . More like 3,400

    • @fuzion430journey3
      @fuzion430journey3 Год назад

      First off towing tandem is not gonna have any effect on your payload of your truck, and if you would look and do a little bit of research you would see that some single rear wheel trucks actually have a higher payload capacity than a Dooley does depending on how the truck is equipped, I’m not gonna argue that a Dooley’s probably more stable but they’re probably of 3500 single rear wheels that have the same towing capacity in the same payload capacityI know this because I own one

    • @KD-kf4zm
      @KD-kf4zm Год назад

      ​​@@kenj.8897 Depends on trim and options. My 3500 SRW has 3,983 lbs. Of payload. My brother in law's 3500 SRW has over 4,000 lbs of payload, and would have more if his wasn't a Laramie.

  • @leejennings3397
    @leejennings3397 Год назад

    28 states allow
    double towing to some degree.

  • @fuzion430journey3
    @fuzion430journey3 Год назад +1

    It’s not common on the east because most of the states east don’t allow it and for good reason

  • @lockiemckay7596
    @lockiemckay7596 Год назад

    What length is your fifth wheel

  • @bridgeboy513
    @bridgeboy513 Год назад

    thanks. question have you been pulled over by law enforcement.

  • @hrdcoreme
    @hrdcoreme 2 года назад

    Do you still tow like this

  • @Rickystakpants
    @Rickystakpants 2 года назад

    I have a 40' 5th wheel. I want to tow my small car behind it when I move to a new location but afraid of getting pulled over.

  • @michaelwenmanK7USN
    @michaelwenmanK7USN Год назад

    The sad thing is that it is illegal in most eastern seaboard states and also along the West coast :(

  • @wevdog
    @wevdog Год назад +1

    Toy-hauler interior layouts are terrible. Double tow is worth it.

  • @fuzion430journey3
    @fuzion430journey3 Год назад

    I don’t know why you called double towing and everybody else I know around Calls it tandem, One of the biggest problems with this is only about half the states in the country allow you to do it and add a certain length, not to mention I would say 70% of the people towing a fifth wheel shouldn’t be doing that let alone towing tandems, I would love to know what the accident rate is of people towing tandems like this I think the only thing that keeps it low is that most people that do it don’t do it very far and do it within their own state,But you have to be a seriously good driver to do this and do it safely

  • @moretoliving2236
    @moretoliving2236 Год назад

    Unfortunately on east coast not allowed to double tow and "cheating" the system is far too costly. West bound from Florida you have to clock like 600 miles to be able to get to where its "legal" so you can't even tow there, come back, tow 2nd, then hook it all up and go west because by that point you would have driven a solid extra 1200 miles. I have looked into what the penalties are and most I could gather so far is a ticket and being told to unhook. I wish I could just I don't know mosey over and under cover of night make a bee line but 600 miles is 600 miles and there is no way you can do that in span of it being dark. All I want to tow is my jeep behind my motorhome and my kayak trailer behind the jeep. Doing so would literally solve all of my problems. I-10 is long and straight all the way out west, so is I-40 and there are barely any turns. Sigh.

  • @claytonkeyes7041
    @claytonkeyes7041 Год назад

    Holy cow

    • @timbertimeoutdoors9836
      @timbertimeoutdoors9836  Год назад

      Yes, its a bit crazy to tow all this stuff. We like to have our toys on trips.

  • @ksplinter007
    @ksplinter007 Год назад

    Double towing. Seems like you cannot backup

  • @mr.dozer.7471
    @mr.dozer.7471 2 года назад

    How big is your truck what's the length of your trailer and your utility trailer? I have an F-350 crew cab dually a 40 ft fifth wheel and a Jeep TJ.