VS | Anakin Skywalker vs Luke Skywalker
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- Опубликовано: 11 июл 2024
- Father vs. Son. Prodigies of the Force and the saber.
0:00 - The Introduction
3:16 - Round 1: Physical Abilities
7:45 - Round 2: Force Abilities
13:50 - Round 3: Dueling Abilities
21:40 - The Verdict
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Of course, Luke could always use the ultimate secret attack. "Pocket sand"
Bluemilk92 LMAO 😂😂
I had sand, that's how i killed some of the siths i encountered.
Sha-sha-shaaa
@@cherrydonut4219 sigh.. if only qui gon had some sand when he was fighting darth maul.
What?
To those who (for some odd reason) think Luke is the chosen one, please read or watch the following:
“The prophecy is that Anakin will bring balance to the Force and destroy the Sith. He becomes Darth Vader. Darth Vader does become the hero. Darth Vader does destroy the Sith, meaning himself and the Emperor. He does it because he is redeemed by his son. So the prophecy is true. And by doing that he redeems himself. And goes from being Darth Vader back to being Anakin again.”
Guess who said that: ruclips.net/video/UqLsQClut5c/видео.htmlm41s
+Antoine Bandele Anakin is indeed the chosen one, it's just as yoda said in the third episode, they maybe misunderstood the prophecy, it never said that the propheted child would kill the sith but that he would restore the balance, and as in the Yin/Yang, if you want balance you need a equilibrium of both sides. Anakin killed the jedis and thanks to his son, killed the rest of the siths
+Stephen Todaro Well he said that he won't compare them in their prime.
+Antoine Bandele The way I kind of saw it, Anakin eliminated all but two Jedi, Obi-Wan and Yoda. I know, I know, all these shows, comics, books, etc say other jedi survived. Yeah, but they also say other sith survive so whatever. What I'm getting at is...two jedi, and two sith. Balanced. By the end of Return of the Jedi, the last Jedi is Luke, but Luke has struggled with Light/Dark a lot. You could maybe consider him a grey jedi. The force is balanced within him. What Lucas is saying makes sense too.
+Antoine Bandele He could have indirectly brought balance by giving birth to Luke as well; Luke could still have a critical role in bringing balance
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I definitely agree with this, Luke was not experienced enough, and Anikan was just so damn strong in episode 3
Anikan?!
Anikan? Who the hell is that? Anakin's cousin?
Just look at Clone Wars Anakin was stronger than everyone
Sora The Firekeeper he was strong in overall because he’s the main character of the whole saga
Anikan
But surely Luke would win because Obi Wan would have told him the importance of the high ground?
Yes Luke would win
Adam Ball true true
Adam Ball I doubt that
this isn’t even funny anymore
@@beneadie7147 yes I agree I don't think it's funny anymore
“But I warn you not to underestimate my powers” Luke Skywalker
How did that end up for your father
Me MeS “don’t try it”
Don't try it!
*Jump noises*
*Legs get cut off*
Anakin was cocky and jesus had the high ground
@@whole_wheat_soup9321 Jesus wouldn't have needed the high ground anyways he trained him
@@Mr._Parrot oh but he did. In the actual fight if obi wan didnt get the
high ground he would have lost badly
Lol how about the fact that Vader was missing literally most of his body when he fought Luke 😂😂😂
Limiting his potential to an aproximate 80%
Nah it was 40%
Diego Rodriguez 80% of the emperor’s power that is
Louis Porter 80% of the emperors power, he was supposed to be twice as powerful as sidious but when he lost everything it set him back
Marcus Aschettino it is said that after mustafar vader power was 40% less than palpatines full power not 80%
*when Luke makes himself a Jedi Master*
Anakin: Oh what a idea! Why didn’t I think of that?
I did not make myself a Jedi master master yoda and obi wan said I could be one un like my father
@Ruosong Gao killed younglings you have
Anakin: "Oh what a great idea! why didn't I think of that?"
Luke Skywalker: "Much to learn, you still have." ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Anakin: "WHAT!? how can you do this....this is outrageous!"
Bruh it’s like a fully grown adult beating up a new born
Anakin would win
Its not that much of a stomp. Anakin would win but people need to also give luke credit.
@@damianc669 Yeah. Anakin's fanboys are delusional.
@@damianc669 yeah
Depends which versions of themselves are fighting, Luke at his peak beats Anakin at his peak (not his potential power).
The Olipedo yes
The problem is Luke and Vader never matched in strength. Vader was going easy on Luke in episode 6. As you can clearly see in the fight just life in Cloud City where Vader was merely testing Luke Skywalker the good in him will not allow him to kill Luke Skywalker and only cut off his arm because Luke cut Vader's shoulder.
I agree with this. But also, Luke wasn’t trying to kill his father in ROTJ. He wanted to redeem Vader. So they both were not trying.
robert morales vader was not holding back in M6 only M5
That doesn't matter. Vader stated that Luke is stronger than Anakin.
@@bigenson18 when did he do that
@@jdjdbdbfbfbfn2628 Read the novels.
Well anakin wins bc his hair in revenge of the sixth beats that 70s/80s bowlcut Luke has anyday
Mr Bojangles LMAO
Mr Bojangles Really how they look? Judging by your profile picture I don’t like you because you haven’t changed your profile picture since Tuesday but I don’t care about power AT ALL
+Luke Skywalker
Oh, so you're jealous of your dad's hair? HAH. Also, it's a joke. Their pfp is a pepe, so of course they're a troll.
Agree with you
seth and his suit and scar also contributes
I feel like anakins force feats were nerfed, he was strong enough in the force to bring two embodiments of the force to their knees, if that’s not a good example of raw power I don’t know what is.
A better example is Luke beating Abeloth in the EU while getting attacked by Darth Krait
i feel its important to know that if you watch the full 3 episode version of that instead of just picking and choosing what you want, it becomes very clear that Anakin cant actually even bring one to their knees, it was because they werent resisting during the "test" it was more to see if Anakin had control over the affects of both sides of the force not the power to dominate both entities
He was really only able to do that because the planet Morris gave anakin a huge buff in his power. Basically a glimpse of his true potential if you want to say that or something along those lines. After all the planet Mortis unnaturally strong with the force.
@@caboose5698 The ones were resisiting. But the force on mortis amped Anakin to his fp. They did this to show Anakins the chosen ones full potenital. You can't just asume they didn't resist, you need statements. Anakin got one with the force at that short moment that's why you can even hear Vaders voice, he used both the light and dark in perfect harmony. The screenwriter even said Anakin did it with his own power. And the father also said only the chosen one could tame both of my children which proves the ones did resist. Because if he knew his children weren't resisting he wouldn't have said something like that.
@@divinium3105 he had help tho
Vadar beats anakin, anakin beats luke, luke beats vadar. Rock, paper, scissors.
Finally, a comment that makes sense to me. Most of the others are complaining that "Luke beat Vader so Luke beats Anakin," or, "Vader was Anakin in his prime, not Episode III Anakin." But the thing is, in terms of combat, it makes no sense to consider Anakin and Vader to be the same person. Anakin was incredibly fast and agile, but despite his force sensitivity, he didn't really utilize it too much. With Vader, it's the opposite. His suit greatly limits his speed and mobility, but the pain and suffering it causes him greatly increases his force power through the Dark Side; remember that time he force-choked someone through a television screen!?
remember the time Anakin beat two force beings?
bruh, Vader didn't want to kill Luke, you get it now?
Brayden Quinn vader would never beat anakin
@@user-mu8dm4rk7g luke didn't want to kill his father neither, if you actually watched ROTJ luke didn't even want to fight vader, he was just trying to redeem him and bring him back to the light side
Almost everyone in the comment section is saying that "Luke would win because he is the strongest with the force and most force sensitive. When it comes to a lightsaber battle that isn't the case. Anakin had years of experience and training as a Jedi. Luke had like some months or a year with Yoda. Just because Yoda was the best teacher doesn't mean that he would make Luke win over Anakin in a lightsaber duel. Anakin's speed and technique with Form V would make Anakin the winner. Come with the arguments... I'm waiting.
TL;DR Luke would win.
+Anakin Skywalker All the prequels had stupid, over the top lightsaber duels, like a light show or something lol. Super fast, stupid looking... especially ep. III. Luke would own Anakin, just like he does in return of the jedi.. Anakin is most definitely in his prime as Vader.. to say he isn't is just foolish. Why isn't he? Because they have super fast lightsaber duels in the prequels that didn't even look like they were fighting? They literally looked like it's been rehearsed, and they're going with the motions... doesn't even look like fights lol. Unrealistic, without any sense of fear or danger, it's like ok is this duel going to be 10 hours long? You're basing your opinion on bad choreography lol.
Also Yoda... the best teacher ever... is teaching the LAST Jedi, on his deathbed... think about that for a second genius... he's putting his life into training Luke... he needs to make him the best Jedi ever.. and Luke is the best student... not being trained until older, and he still goes to the cloud city and holds up against Vader?? Before being a Jedi? Think about what you're saying...
Luke is the best skilled Jedi, lightsaber, and force.... picking it up so fast, and holding up against Vader... and then straight up Owning him the Return of the Jedi proves he's way stronger.
+Anakin Skywalker Comparing Anakin from ROTS which was his prime time to Luke in ROTJ, where Luke was still only learning, is stupid. It's like comparing a teacher with a pupil. He was nowhere near the same experience as his father was that time.
So this whole thing is pointless. Luke wasn't in his prime time in ROTJ. And we will never know how good he would be in his prime time. (at least in the movies)
Now if we compare Anakin from The Clone Wars with Luke in ROTJ then I would say it's fair.
Anakin Skywalker But then why are you comparing Anakin in his prime time (ep 3) with Luke from episode 5-6 where, Luke isn't even in his prime time? Totally unfair.
You think it's unfair to compare Vader with Luke, because Vader was weaker than he was in his prime time.
Then I say it's unfair to compare Anakin with Luke, who was nowhere near his prime time in episode 6... You are incredibly biased.
Anakin Skywalker more advanced? lol, give me a break... so then why is Vader not still advanced in the originals???? Yoda, Sideous, Windu, Dooku, all older characters with over the top fighting in the prequels.... Vader should still have advanced fighting if that's the case... what's your excuse for that, robot limbs? It was Lucas's bad desicsion to make the lightsaber fighting over the top... the duel in phantom menace at the end was phenomenal, and they tried too hard to top it in episode 2, and 3..
His robotic limbs made him slower? Give me a break... where's your proof? He had robotic limbs in episode 3, didn't seem to bother him then.. Also Luke had a robotic hand in Return of the jedi... so it evens out... If anything robotic limbs should make them stronger, and faster.
I am not a prequel hater what so ever... I love them... I'm 26 years old... I did grow up loving the originals... but I loved episode 1... apart from Jar Jar... which Reddit has an awesome theory of Jar Jar being Snoke you should check out if you haven't...
It's just episode 2, and 3 over did the lightsaber fighting because it's all about the jedis... episode 3 when Obi and anakin fight at the end, and they are literally swinging their lightsabers in front of each other not hitting.... I mean come on. It's a light show... they tried to make them too much into super humans. Empire strikes back duel is hands down the best... tone, feeling, darkness, epicness.. they tried way too hard in episode 2, and 3 and forgot to make it more personal, and realistic.
To say Anakin in Episode 3, is in his prime more so than when he is Vader in Return of the Jedi is insane.. in my opinion. He's supposed to be the Ultimate villain.. why would he be at his toughest when he loses to Obi wan in episode 3? His force has to be tripled, and clearly his lightsaber skills are the same... he does the same swirl, and sever move to luke that he does to Dooku... Your argument is based solely on His young appearance, and over the top choreography.
Also, Luke is going to be the strongest jedi ever in episode 7... showing he surpassed Vaders skill, and probably even Yoda... to say he isn't the best is crazy.
Dooku beat Anakin, very easily, with Obis help, because of cockiness
Then Anakin beats Dooku, with the help of Obi again, and Sideous.
Then Obi beats Anakin, with Anakins foolish jump to get severed
Every fight Anakin lets the darkside consume him, and it beats him... Luke NEVER lets the dark side consume him... which is why he would own Anakin, much like he does in Episode 7. Not to mention Anakin was trained by Qui gon, and Obi since young... Luke not until older.. I think that proves luke is tougher alone.
Luke fights Vader ALONE before he's a Jedi, and still almost wins, then RETURNS and owns him, and Sideous.... with his heroic, and selfless acts... Luke would win just because of who he is, and who he's always destined to be.
Im not trying to hate or anything... I say love what you love and don't let anyone tell you different... even though i don't like how over the top those duels are... I do enjoy them in a way.. Cheers to being fellow star wars fans, thanks for the great debate.
anakin for sure would win, he has trained his whole life since he was a child and has had a ton of battle experience during the clone wars. He is a master tactician when it comes to war tactics but can also adapt really easily. he is also the chosen one, his connection with the force is much great I mean he has 20,000 midiclorian cells. you could say his ego might be used against him as he acts before he thinks at times, and is very impulsive often letting his emotions get the best of him but that is also what makes him so strong. either way Anakin for sure would win
@Ben Toal ... except fans cant pick canon.
@Oishii Mart but this isn't at their primes, it's at the end of their respective trilogies, so legends Luke doesn't come into this. Also, Anakin never reached his prime due to the fight on mustafar, and if not for that, he would have been at a similar level to Luke.
Joseph Rosas the comic version of luke is opppppp
@Vazed x anakin was the chosen one luke was his son if enything he shouldnt stand a chance
@Vazed x I think at their respective primes Anakin would win because he is the chosen one. They are similar in power level but that is one of the only differences. Also Anakin was noted as a fierce warrior while luke was noted more forr his knowledge and patience. When it comes to feats in battle and experience I give the edge to Anakin.
I feel like if Obi Wan was alive long enough to teach Luke the importance of the high ground we would have a different outcome
Notice how in return of the jedi vader says obi wan taught you well AFTER luke jumps to the highground
@@orionxx9998 No he says Obi wan has taught you well and Luke gets the high ground
well anakin, has more experience in fighting another force users, while the only force user that luke encountered by the time, i believe, was vader; anakin's feats during the clone wars earned him a name, and we're talking about a time where jedis where still a thing, so he wasn't a joke, also, during the vader vs luke fight, i think vader was holding back, since he was fighting his own son and what kind of anger he could have use against him?
Luke was holding back too. He did not want to kill Vader. He wanted to redeem him so he hold himself back too.
@@Oscar-pg3tk Luke didnt hold back, he let anger take over him for a second but then before killing his father realised what he was doing. Definitely not holding back if you watch the scene.
@@jackwilliams2940 no
VortexedGlobal definitely was holding back because if he would’ve killed vader he would’ve have fallen into the dark side which is what palpatine wanted him to do because he knew he would be far more stronger then his father as a Sith Lord
@@brobeans6967 Dude just rewatch the fight, you see luke use the dark side for a minute as he goes all out on his father with repenting attacks which vader did not expect as he was holding back.
Jar Jar Binks was the most powerful Sith for the dark side. Not even Emperor Palpatine knew he was being manipulated. The Jedi thought he was merey an idiot tagging along, yet he set things in motion that led to Darth Vader and the empire.
Fuck that darth jar jar theory. It's stupid.
Kire667 jar jar must of been the thickest Sith Lord of all time
Goblinwrecks It's undeniable. The actor and the movie cinematography confirmed it.
It was retconned unfortunately, but at least we got General Grievous (only good in the cartoon tho)
Kire667 he was not...he is the most stupidest sith
ma -18264 it's a fuckin joke
Short answer, Anakin is way too powerful and win almost flawlessly. Luke might be equally as powerful but he lacks training, especially in the combat.
69 likes, perfectly balanced as all things should be.
Not even a fight
what do you mean he lacks training?
Luke becomes the jedi grand master?
or do you mean luke couldnt beat anikin when he was a moister farmer
But being trained by Grand Master Yoda, he is a stronger Force user.
true
Sorry, but Anakin would win the physical category hands down. He's shown to be much stronger and quicker than his son, as seen during his brawl with Rush Clovis in The Clone Wars, where he nearly beat the guy (who is a capable fighter himself) to death with his fists. Not to mention Ani has the height and weight advantage as well.
ReonMagnum
you know what they say, “the quick and skilled bigger person will always beat the quick and skilled smaller person”
The bigger they are, the harder they fall.
But luke was able to overpower vader in anger who was enhanced.
Anakin is around 6’2 where Luke is around 5’7 or less
but luke beat vader to the ground. vader is physically stronger than anikin
Imagine if anikin would have been able to reach his full potential
Jason Lee
Full potential Anakin vs. Full potential Luke
Luke would win
Imagine if Luke hooked up with Leia without knowing, that kid would have mad skills!!!
@@f9658 nop
@@LouisPoitevin Shut the fck up and come up with a better reply
@@f9658 what? That make no sense
Darth Vader is a hollow shell of what Anakin was . For one he doesn't have any natural limbs anymore which no matter how skilled one is with them it's just not the same feel. Number two was that brig crippled like that is a huge shock, and can change how he would fight. Number three, I mean he was burnt to a crisp and had to wear that full body suit just to survive and wouldn't have his full vision out of those two lenses in his helmet.
He has His whole body left minus his legs and half an arm.
+ChunkyMonkeyMan N Even if he did no have his natural limbs. He made up for it up training for his years has the sith. He mastered forms that could potentially get rid of his weaknesses.
+ChunkyMonkeyMan N Robotic limbs in the star wars universe are way different than what we have. When Luke gets his, he can still feel pain and touch through it... so please tell my why they make a difference. If anything, they'd make him stronger.
wwp,1 a
+ChunkyMonkeyMan N Luke never wants to beat Vader, if you pay atention to movie you can understand that, Luke in EP VI underrated because we don't have all beauty moves of the prequels.
I agree I feel that in terms of battle Anakin is the stronger fighter but Luke is the smarter fighter
LebrunJemes187 I agree as well. Luke seems like a smarter fighter but not as strong as anakin
LebrunJemes187 no hed not
I feel like tactics play at least a little in a duel, and should be considered.
LebrunJemes187 this means that Luke could overcome him
LebrunJemes187 So tru.
Anakin is my Favorite Star wars Charcter so I'll stick with him
I'd thumbs up but 66 you see the match
should I... no, I shouldn't
same
@@nightviper7354 DEWIT
Thanks.
Cmon now it isn’t rocket science: the Anakin in revenge of the sith dueled amazingly, way better than Luke in return of the Jedi waaay better
That's not really a valid point, he appears to fight "better" because the technology of film making at the time was far better than the original trilogy
@@azazel5993 that has nothing or at least very little to do with it. Anakin was far more skilled in Revenge of the Sith compared to Luke in Return of the Jedi.
He was struggling against Darth Vader which is a lesser version of Anakin considering that he lost 80% of his power and was much slower due to his cybernetic limbs.
now if Luke was struggling against Vader then how would he match up against a clone wars hero?
@@LucidVision138 Im not arguing with Anakin being a superior fighter to Luke is just wat his says doesn't really add up, now about the other thing I think Anakin would totally lose in a fight against Vader, his potential might have been crippled but Vader had a far deeper understanding of the force, his force powers were unmatched
CHER 100 first Luke was not trying to kill Vader second Luke was way more powerful than anikan in the force
Lucid Vision Vader is better than Anakin tho
think if anakin came to his full potential
GOD
He'd be better than yoda
yeah George Lucas even said that if Anakin was able to fulfill his full potential he could have been 2x as strong as The Emperor
+Aidan Lynch and the emperor beat yoda
Imagine if Luke received proper training during the republic and not the empire
Wasn't this fight already settled in ROJ? You could argue that Anakin/Vader wasn't at his full power, but really neither was Luke. Anakin at least had the advantage of practically growing up in the Jedi Temple and receiving years of training under Obi-Wan and Yoda. And spending another 20 years under the tutelage of one of the most powerful Sith Lords ever. Except for some training on Dagobah, Luke practically trained himself. Even built his own lightsaber from Obi-Wan's notes. It's clear to me that Luke is the stronger of the 2 if he's able to beat Vader despite his disadvantages. And he had the discipline to flirt with the Dark Side without succumbing to it, unlike Anakin.
My problem is it wasn't at their primes. Than Luke would win without a doubt.
+Christopher Thomas Grand Master Luke would probably win over Anakin. But not Luke in ROTJ.
+MrBopeel Technically Vader hit his head causing him to have a concussion. But this wasn't shown in the movie
***** Return Of The Jedi
I agree with a lot of that. I'll just play devil's advocate a bit and say that vader's mechanical body was not as agile as his fully human one, which might have hindered him a bit against luke, but vader would have adapted his style to that over time, so that might be a moot point. Lol
For a second, I thought you were gonna say that the chosen one, literally made from midichlorians, was gonna be outclassed by Luke.
LucasDB39 he is
@@Dr.Pete05 not*
I am the chosen one, I am more powerful than most of the Jedi, with mace windu and yoda being my contenders
you clearly never heard jolee bindo tell the tale of andor vex :p
force potential is not the same as ability
well it is canon that luke inherited all of his fathers raw power and in legends luke was one of if not the most power jedi of all time
This video explains why TLJ doesn't get Luke
anakin is more powerful according to Lucas if he had not been turned to the darkside he would have become the most powerful Jedi in history but because of his body being badly burnt and crippled his growth in strength halted but in skill terms he had formal training with Jedi for many years he would defeat Luke in fact Lucas states the only reason kenobi won was due to his mind being clouded by hate
+Caleb Hickman Actually, Lucas stated during the commentary of Empire Strikes back that Luke has the same potential as Anakin had, hence his incredibly fast growth as a Jedi. He has the experience of the Grand Master and Anakin's teacher on his side, making his own growth even faster than Anakin's had been at that age.
+David Fuller Yes you are right and it also helps Obi-wan that he was not a Master of form III but THE master of form III this was stated by Mace windu
The reason he last that battle in the first place is why Luke would've beaten him. If Obi-Wan was able to, then so would have Yoda, Mace, anybody really who wasn't just blatantly back stabbed by him.
+David Fuller
Technically, Soresu is a direct counter to all 6 other forms as it's purely defensive (Obi-Wan using Soresu could block 14 attacks per second), but it's primary flaw is the fact that it's so defensive that it has absolutely no offensive maneuvers, with Soresu consisting solely of blocks, parries, and dodges. As such a Soresu user would have had to utilize at least one other lightsaber form in order to actually be able to defeat an opponent or counterattack (usually with a Form like Makashi or Ataru).
+gamester512 Yep, and as I recall Qui-Gon taught Obi-Wan Form IV.
I think pound for pound Anakin was unstoppable...however, not the most focused. It could go either way. Anakin DID lose to Obi Wan and he was a Sith Lord then.
+Thinkquestionlearn because he was too proud, you can see him almost killing obi-wan a few times
+Thinkquestionlearn Everyone always say that Anakin lost Obi Wan and there for he could not be so strong a figther.... But Anakin only lost to Obi Wan becouse he did not sleep for 3 days when they made in ligthsaber match, and before they meet Anakin did clear out the jedi temple, and kill the leders on Mustafa... Obi Wan was fresh and ready to go.. That is why he could take Anakin out...
Morten Iversen Good point. I'm not sure though he was ready. I mean you can be stronger than someone but they have better technique. But your point is valid.
May the force be with you!!!
+Thinkquestionlearn Amen
Just because one is a Sith Lord doesn't mean that a Jedi master cannot beat him.
It's simple. Put Luke instead of Obi Wan in the final battle of epi III. There's just no way he would win against that Anakin(not even prime tho)
So your saying Jedi luke, the one who defeated vader and had the power to defeat palpatine would've lost to Vader?
Goat 5305 yes. Absolutely. See how powerful Luke is? He’s half mixed with non force sensitive. He’s a Anakin’s kid. Anakin is ground zero. Luke is outmatched period. If Anakin never went in the suit Luke never would have stood a chance to begin with. And the Emperor would have been gone by ep. 6 anyway.
Guillermo Romero vader was holding back bc it was his son. he didn’t want to kill luke but instead wanted luke to join him and take out palpatine
@@sproutbeans4410 luke was also holding back, because vader was his father. It was only when vader taunted luke by mentioning his sister that he gave in to the dark side and gained temporary strength to defeat vader. He tired vader out to the point that he was on his knees u til his right hand got chopped off.
@@angelomendoza6666 sure but that Wasn’t prime Vader. Granted neither was luke but the difference in their respective primes is exponential
heres how it goes down, my version:
Anakin strikes with a quick form V attack, throwing luke off balance with an above swing.
Luke responds with a quick strike under his guard, but anakin jumps, avoiding it.
The 2 exchange quick strikes from left to right, keeping each other in check.
Anakin does a spin in the middle of the exchange, making luke respond with throwing a piece of debree at anakin.
Luke kicks upwards, throwing anakin back, as they quickly re engage, with powerful near the speed of sound strikes.
Anakin decides to use a different approach, engaging luke in a clash, attempting to get the lightsaber out of his hand.
Luke uses his best strength, but to no avail, anakin pours most of his force energy into the clash, spinning luke's lightsaber out of his hand, as he slices it in half.
Luke is left defenseless, so he grabs anakin's lightsaber and kicks him.
They exchange blows, as they both lost their lightsabers.
Anakin does a sweeping blow into luke's face, as he throws luke off guard and off balance, he manages to get him in a force choke.
Luke is brought to his knees, as the duel ends.
Who else thinks if anakin didn't loose his limbs in revenge of the sith he could crush Luke in return of the Jedi and in every way
Full Potential Anakin is twice as powerful as anyone else. Even George Lucas stated that had Anakin reached full potential he would be twice as powerful as Yoda and Sidious. Luke would have only reached half Anakin's potential because his mother wasn't a force user and therefore full potential Luke's in Yoda and Palpatine's league.
Completely agree, Luke was basically diluted down force wise due to this.
Um, yeah, George Lucas himself has said Luke and Anakin had the same amount of force potential.
A non-crippled Anakin would be more fairly matched versus Grand Master Luke of the EU. Even then, I think EU Luke might still have the upper hand. He was ridiculously op.
A full potential Anakin was stated to be the equal to The Father of Mortis. He'd probably even beat Grand Master Luke
Anakin will always be my favourite Jedi.
+No kicking penguins i know i hated, hated that Disney had cancelled that show. Maybe I should watch the new show Star wars rebels hopefully Disney didn't mess up the show.
+GALAXE I really liked him in the clone wars show, not so much in the movies.
Mine is mace Windu
strahinjagov exactly
+GALAXE
I liked him, I thought that his actor did a great job of portraying Anakin
The logic in all your VS battles is awesome man. Been looking for someone who understands the lore and characters this well for awhile. Confirms my thoughts on a lot of these fights! Keep it up
Anakin!! I like Luke but I like Ani better
From my point of view he is the most powerful
Some Guy 99 no he isn’t
@Some Guy 99 nope
agreed I like ani more than Luke,
@Some Guy 99 Exactly!
Anakin in his prime would make mince meat of Luke in his prime years as well. The only reason Luke beat Darth Vader is because Vader lost much of his Force capabilities after losing much of his body to fire and to two decades of age.
Thank you finally someone who actually realizes this
Vader also fights differently to Anankin using more strength based strikes because of his lack of mobility in the suit
+Ed Towel Or maybe because Vader taunted Luke, causing him to rage and use his anger out on his father and just pounded him into submission.......................
No he didn't. Where is the evidence that Vader lost much of his force abilities? Look at the movies dude. Vader had a strangle ability beyond belief. Anakin could never do that. Anakin lost to Obi Wan Kenobi. Vader defeated Kenobi. Vader was way stronger than Anakin.
Lolarnia Where is the evidence? Read the "Darth Plagueis" novel. Apparently, you didn't read my post. I said Anakin in his PRIME! Strangle ability is channeled by the Dark side. Why would Anakin develop that ability as a Jedi. Plus, it's common sense. If he had a midichlorian count in his cells and now a third of his body is gone, then ... Dude, go back to your studies.
Honestly I've always Loved Anikan way more than Luke I feel like he could have made a better Hero and or Villan He plays a good role in both. I think I like him because he's rugged and Tough.But hey that's just my opinion
Justin SliverSoap I think he is an annoying bitchy teenager that wanted more and paid the price for it.
Anakin. NOT Anikan. Just ANAKIN.
Anakin was technically never the villain, he did bring balance to the force twice
Definition of villain: "(in a film, novel, or play) a character whose evil actions or motives are important to the plot.". So yes, he was "technically" a villain as Vader, at least until he changed his ways in the end.
Justin SliverSoap luke is the best
Are we not gonna talk about the fact that he’s Jesus Christ
Jesus is obi wan not anikan
Anakin is space jesus
No he is not.
@@nieru6494
Jesus is space Anakin then
@@davisdf3064 Jesus is Jesus, Anakin is Just a Guy who hates sand and fight on low ground
This is like asking “Who’d win, Jesus or the Popes?”
Boredish holy Jesus!
More like Jesus or Jesus son
@@slappy9937 we are his son's you "PLEB"
@@slappy9937 More like God vs Jesus.
The battle between Anakin and Luke at the same age would be legendary
Anakin FTW
+Darryl Roberts what does Ftw mean
"for the win"
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh ya I'm a noob in English slang
Antoine Bandele What's the name of the song that you played at the beginning of this video?
I dont get it. If you destroy the sith wont there be just jedi? Thats not really balance right?
***** Filthy casual. Gray Jedi FTW!
Completely agree with you, life and evolution is simply too dynamic for there ever to be a perfect hypothetical 'balance'.
JeWeetZelf First he killed a whole lot of Jedi, (originally it was all the Jedi), then he killed all the existing Sith. Darth Vader did bring balance to the Force! Dante.
JeWeetZelf +ILS says it well. My personal view on that prophecy is that it is very much a Jedi prophecy, in which balance means "light-side" only. Whether that is a good thing or not is up for debate. It's one of the themes I hope is examined in "The Force Awakens" (which it seems it might).
Antoine Bandele I think eepisode 7 the force awakens will be a new area of the force we haven't seen yet,like all this time it was a sleep.......or maybe its just a hyperboly. maybe episode 8 will be "THE FORCEHITS THE SNOOZE BUTTON" :3
Luke would have no chance against Anakin in his prime.
Don't underestimate the power of the darkside... Luke showed he was quite capable of unleashing his hatred and opening an can of darkside whoopass if needed before calmly returning to normal like nothing happened.
Simon James Odell okay yeah but Anakin literally was a darkside user lmao
Luke in his prime was already stronger than anakin ever was
Goat 5305 bro what? Anakin was the most force sensitive mortal being of all time, and he was formally trained by the Jedi masters, and started training much younger. It’s not even a competition
Honestly, I think if it was each of them in their prime, Luke would win because anakin never reached his full potential.
The fact that the when i started watching star wars i watched this 5 months later after the video cameout and now it has been 5 years just wow this channel honestly helped me get more knowledge about star wars and now its different.
Anakin was the most skilled with the lightsaber of his time , his speed and agressivity made him a legend , becoming the great hero of the Clone Wars..... and he still had too more potential to develop during his life , if he didn't suffered the consequences of turning to the dark side... His only problem was his anger , which he was unable to control , that was the responsible for his defeat on Mustafar , where Obi-Wan , who knew him as a brother , turned his anger and arrogance against his own self...... Luke is great Jedi too , he probably became stronger than Anakin some years after Return of the Jedi , but in his youth he was still weaker than his father at the same age , because Anakin had more experience as a general in the clone wars , and more training as a Padawan...
Juliano Buhrer Martins Anakin in the top five, but he wasn't the best, Yoda and Sidious would spank him.
I agree , but Anakin still had too much potential to develop , i think he could become more powerful than Sidious and Yoda if he never turned to the Dark Side
Anakin should be the most powerfull if he didn't became cyborg the suits did slow him, he didn't even have all his limbs. he would be the fastest duelist and the best user of force if palpatine did train him more. He also would never kill palpatine if luke wasn't his son (sorry if i have bad grammar, im from Belgium 14y but i can speak English a little bit)
Juliano Buhrer Martins An EU writer was once quoted as saying that EU Luke Skywalker is what Anakin Skywalker SHOULD have been had he not Fallen.
So, when you read the post-ROTJ books, and you see all the crazy things Luke could do, know that Anakin could do them too.
*Ahem* Actually guys.... Windu, the Jedi Battlemaster was the greatest saberist of his era. Not completely nerd out, but. He was defeated purely because he let emotion cloud his judgement instead of execution Sidious outright, or engaging Anakin when it became clear he was a traitor. It goes back to that 'ABC' logic that the video guy was talking about
anakin would take this easy. vader was a crippled old man, and yoda wasnt givin enough time to train him properly.
+Jason Sapp Vader wasn't an old man. He was in his 40's in the originals.
Still crippled
Jason Sapp If you read Lords of the Sith. it States that his injuries were a fuel source to his rage which made his connection to the force grow greater. In canon, it's never said that it weakened him.
+Kanzentai-KA-ME-HA-ME-HA he cant produce sith lightning. he cant move like when he fought obi won. i truly believe amakin would wipe the floor with any form of luke. luke hasnt been tested to his limits. disney says whats cannon now. and they say the movies was cannon. not the books. watch revenge of the sith and compare anakins moves with that of lukes in return of the jedi.
Jason Sapp That's called 80's tech for you. But Lords of the Sith is canon, and it states that Vader is stronger in the force thanks to his injuries fueling his rage.
Sure he has drawbacks like no force lightning, but that doesn't take away his potential in the force.
Also it's spelled canon, not cannon.
Thank you for your assessment of their respective abilities. I totally agree with them, as well as your ultimate conclusion. May the Force be with you!!
This is REALLY good!
vader held back and luke gave into the dark because of Palpatine towards the end of the duel thats why lucke beat vader in my opinion anyway
Yeah there's a lot going on in that fight.
Also you can't compare anikan to vader because vader is a much more slow serene in the way he fights compared to the fast paced aggressive way of anikans
That's exactly why you would compare two different people: their differences.
Also just wanna say that I really enjoy your channel
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when a Jedi gives into the dark I make them strong but unbalanced which leaves them extremely vulnerable and Vader was conflicted between his son and his master which left him vulnerable but if Vader wasn't holding back and Luke was unbalanced Luke would of been cut down quickly by Vader
I find this battle very unfair, since no one argues the fact EP3 Anakin was the most powerful Vader, yet Luke's power at EP6 was just starting to develope.
The outcome I totally agree with, but you might as well have just titled "Anakin wins" given the respective time frames.
Of course, Prime Time Luke could have beaten almost anyone, possibly even Darth Bane or perhaps even Yoda, so I guess it's the only time frame that you could use that most people would be familiar with without Luke being an OP Master.
Prime Luke would've defeated everyone in Star Wars lore.
+TheUndertaker2478 Except for a few like the Father of Mortis and the Son whose force powers were stronger than Luke's.
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Didn't Anakin defeat the Son though?
Martian Fusion Technically, Anakin didn't defeat the Son, but only stabbed him with his lightsaber when he was distracted. When the Father killed himself with the dagger of Mortis, the Son lost his powers, including his immortality so he died when Anakin stabbed him.
Martian Fusion Or if you were actually mentioning about this particular scene : ruclips.net/video/zl3BXk-xrTQ/видео.html
Anakin subduing the Son is only due to the fact that he is the Chosen one.
I remember watching these videos so long ago when I was younger, good memories
Luke needs sand and high ground to win this
I'm happy you took Luke's strength into consideration. A lot of people forget that Luke in his rage was strong enough to beat, batter, and finally break Vaders defense. Vader who's robotic limbs made him so strong he could casually lift grown men off the ground and accidentally crush their necks all with one hand, and catch blaster bolts with no issue whatsoever.
Vulcan Jedi he did not catch those.
KA0SDestroyer he did in a new hope on cloud city
DarkEclipse that is not catching it is a skill that absorbs ot or some kind. It is the some ability yoda uses to absorb force lightning
KA0SDestroyer certainly his armor and something to do with it. Remember he's more machine than man.
DarkEclipse He is but he does have some force abilities. And i think vader practised it in hope of defending himself against palpatines lightning
Do Trump vs Palpatine
Or trump vs Luke
Trump would built a wall
Trump will build a wall out of bricks so palpatine can't shock it with his fingers
They'll both build walls. The only difference is that Palpatine's will be quite operational.
trump is the strongest sith. it's not even a match
jar jar vs trump would be better
I would rather see each in their prime... because at that age Anakin has years of experience on Luke...
Agreed but what would you consider Luke's prime ? He's supposed to be insanely strong in Legends but in canon I'd say he's reached his prime in Return of the Jedi and I don't see him beat Anakin in his prime then.
I mean I’d say Luke’s prime was obviously somewhere between episodes 6 and 7. Even though we haven’t seen it on screen, we have to count for that. Less in touch with the force than in 8 but a more capable duelist than in epsiode 6. Maybe we’ll get to see some form of his prime on screen at some point in a spin off
I can't say Luke was even close to his prime in Return of the Jedi... he grew a lot more in power with the books that followed.
@@douglaspurcell231 episode 7 to 8 is luke pussywalker and is very pale and weak. Force projected his soul outside his ass and died
I don't see episode 8 a star wars movie. Its not a George Lucas creation.... but if you were so inclined to except it as Star Wars. He was a very old man there. No where close to his physical prime.... but force ability would have kept growing.
Great job with this video. I think you did such a great job. It’s such an awesome thing to fathom, too... Luke Vs Anakin.
Anakin, without a doubt.
Also, since Anakin was skilled in many types of lightsaber dueling and especially offensive kinds, that gives him a far greater upper hand. Luke was taught mainly through experience and Yoda, and Yoda was a known wielder of Shi-cho or form I, which can only do so much. Combined with his immense force power, Anakin has the upper hand and would definitely win against Luke. I think even Vader would have been able to overpower Luke if it weren't that he could sense Luke was his son and that he didn't want to kill him, since he was still trying to possibly take him as his apprentice. I definitely think Vader was holding back and in any other context would have smashed him.
False Yoda was know for his use of Ataru.
Luke's saber style was just Luke his dad Anakins and even adapted more quickly. Yoda also kicked but in duels. So Luke learned from the best and inherited from the best.
there is actually evidence in the novelization that Vader was not holding back, surprised by his son's strength...
Anyone ever notice that Anakin actually did bring balance to the force at the end of EP3, then destroyed it again at the end of EP6?
Also, ROTS Anakin shits on ROTJ Luke.
You misunderstand the balance of the Force.
+Antoine Bandele how? At the end of ROTS there was 2 Jedi, and 2 Sith... There was balance. At the end of ROTJ Vader killed Sidious and he himself died. Leaving just Luke. How is that balanced?
The Force in balance _is_ the light side of the Force.
+Antoine Bandele But the Jedi just assumed that the prophecy meant they were the balance. True balance is both sides being equal.
Anakin Skywalker had superior battle training and Force education. You've seen the fight between him and Obi-Wan in Episode III. When Vader fights Luke in VI, he's holding back because he doesn't want to kill his boy.
No version of Luke has any chance against any version of Anakin.
The legends version of Luke would slaughter canon Anakin
Legends luke at full power stomps any character in their prime. He is pretty much what Anakin was meant to become. If we're talking about Jedi Knight Return of the Jedi luke then yea you got a point. Luke has feats that surpasses all characters as he grew older its insane
@@beegyoshi2068 Legends Luke is pretty much fanfiction Luke at this point, so that doesn't really mean anything.
@@appetizingly true, but when this video was made, Legends Luke had only recently lost his title of being canon. So Antoine based the facts of this video on ROTJ and Legends Luke.
Ppl saying “if Anakin didn’t lose his limbs then he would’ve killed Luke” is an obvious statement. The better question is what if Anakin was rehabilitated in the correct way and took an upgraded suit when offered. Then it’s a question, who would win
Step back for a minute and think about how unfair of a matchup this is. You're comparing the fighting capabilities of 1) Luke Skywalker fighting in a live-action 1983 movie (RotJ) to 2) Anakin in a heavily cgi-enhanced 2005 movie (RotS), and a CARTOON SHOW (Clone Wars).
You're not comparing the skill of Luke to the skill of Anakin, you're comparing the MOVIE MAKING STYLE of the 1970's and early 80's to 00's-2014. We all know that Georce Lucas went way over the top on cgi and the lightsaber choreography is much more complex in the prequels. Everything Luke did in the movie was done with stuntmen and other practical effects. Anakin had the benefit of cgi (especially in the Clone Wars cartoon) which allowed him to do LITERALLY ANYTHING.
We are talking about powers not cgi, Luke wouldn't win bro
BlueFingerz but those powers are influenced by the special effects of film makers.
+Isaac Mahoney u cant just count that as a lost tho
So you think that if Return of the Jedi was made in 2005, they wouldn't have given Luke more powers and skills? They would've have done more cgi work with him flipping around and stuff like they did with Anakin?
+Isaac Mahoney I don't understand why you're trying to pull the argument of choreography into this. Anakin had 14 years of experience, so it would make complete sense for him to be able to do a bunch of flips and all that mumbo jumbo, whereas luke had little to no lightsaber training, and that the majority of his training was only augmented with the force. Just because it was made in 2005 doesn't automatically mean they have to make him flip around just like Anakin, it would destroy the continuity of the storyline.
Anakin would win
Black Suited Spider-man Lol no
Dualme lol yes
kyler hernandez Legends Luke would destroy Anakin.
Lol yes
Lol no. Where are you guys getting your stats for this?! You all remember that one episode in the clone wars where Anakin stops and bends the son and daughter (the embodiments of the force) to his will. I'll just reinstate that for you. Anakin literally stopped the dark and light sides of the force in their tracks and brought them to their knees. What has Luke done that was even close to that (at this time, in canon)...
The edge comes from Anakin use of the dark side, in almost all the fight scenes where Anakin is matched by a strong opponent, Anakin always wins by giving into his rage.
But then again Luke also did that when he fought vader, both were equally matched but when luke gave into his anger he cut vader's hand... that's why the senate was pleased with luke.
As they both can use both sides of the force.
your intro’s are the best and i’m just like ohhhhhhhhhhh anikin i’ve seen him before but ohhhhhhhh
Anakin from revenge of the sith is my favorite of all time and looks way more badass than Luke easy decision to me I think the only reason Luke beat Vader is because he was the good guy and that suit also looks like it could effect Anakins skills and age also is a factor so both in their prime Anakin by a mile
Annie you won of corse
Anakin didn't stop the punch with his bare hand...that was his prosthetic hand.
Yep
@@delmarfrazier2727 The build of the hand doesn't matter. He didn't stop the blow with his hand, he caught it. His arm, his flesh and blood arm, was the mechanism which resisted the force of. A. Magnaguard.
Y’know, I was just wondering who would win out of the two and not expecting something this in depth...
No doubt anakin would win
Aarav Jilka personally I think he would lose because he gets to cocky
Luke lost to Darth Vader when Vader was going easy on him. Luke had very little training and his experience compared to Anakin is very little. Anakin steamrolls through Luke quite easily.
That doesn't change the fact that Luke still has little training and minimal experience. Anakin without the Vader armor at his peak is way stronger than Luke.
@The EmeralKing but Anakin is stronger and more proficient with a lightsaber
@@RiceeHD not when Luke was in his prime. Luke should have killed him easily
I disagree with your outcome. I see it as more of a coin flip. Physically they are dead even. In terms of Force powers, Anakin had more raw power and Luke had more finesse. Anakin does have more experience with fighting other force users.In Shadows of the Empire, Vader was surprised at how well Luke did when Vader was seriously trying to kill him. Luke escaped with an amputated hand. This was before he was considered a Jedi Knight. This is why I say it is a coin flip. Anakin relied on his talent to get him through any problems he faced. Luke had been trained by Obi Wan and Yoda after spending years reflecting on their failure with Anakin. Both were trained by Obi Wan and Yoda but the training philosophy had changed.
SCScholar1 I agree with Luke being intuitive and it is quite obvious that the Jedi's philosophy had changed quite a bit. They kind of got back to their roots as far as training Luke to be at peace above all. But I still see them making some of the same mistakes as well. Both Obi and Yoda were grooming Luke to destroy Vader, and they admitted as much. Not because it was his final training (as has been suggested) or because he was necessarily ready, but because they were desperate. The very fact that Luke wanted to try and save Vader disappointed them them and made them lose hope. I see this rigidness and compromise as the same philosophy that caused the order to become so embroiled in the Clone Wars.
That aside, at the end of the day just as is true in real life, there is no substitute for experience. Vader had it in spades. And for Luke being a calm fighter, he could be provoked easily if you threatened those he loved. Sounds familiar. In fact Vader endured much more temptation that Luke in his lifetime. Luke's career as a Jedi was like a much shortened version of Anakin's.
I never said Yoda and obi wan completely changed. I still say Vader was impressed at how his half trained son managed to hold his own against him. Bear in mind Vader has been fighting Jedi knights and masters and coming out on top. By rotj, he's a full Jedi knight with the potential to surpass Vader. Luke didn't make the same mistake anakin did. He never pushed through on just talent alone. The philosophy in the EPs 1-3 was garbage. Relationships are bad, strong emotions are bad. Sounds to me like they were setting up their padawans to fail. If they aren't taught how to handle strong emotions they will fall.
SCScholar1 I totally agree with you!
SCScholar1 To be fair, the padawans who survive will eventually learn to handle strong emotions. It's just just like teens (and they are) the padawans are still too green to be taught in advanced Jedi arts version of sex ed. :D
The problem is they cloister the kids and when their emotions come out they call it attachment and that they have to let it go. This sounds more like repression which is bad in the long run. Better they teach them to deal with their feelings.
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Anakin would win unless Luke got the high ground
and some sand
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Well... Anakin did begun his training as a kid, while Luke begun his training much older.
Anakin fought in the war and became battle hardened, but look did extensive training under Yoda (literally)
I'd say Anakin was much more experienced in battle while Luke is more knowledgeable and efficient in the use of the force...
(well, he does use force-chokes effortlessly)
EDIT: Experience is very relevant, that was the reason why Obi-Wan won against Anakin, Obi-Wan wasn't gifted in the force like Anakin was, but he was far more experienced.
When Anakin turned to the dark side, he was a little more powerful than Obi-Wan, but Obi-Wan was smarter.
Imo I would’ve given an edge to anakin for physical abilities just due to the fact that anakin had been training to be a Jedi since he was 9 and Luke only trained for a couple years at most.
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ya this totally makes the video much more acceptable... the dude just talks too slow for like drama... but with the increase in speed it sounds like he is more confident and able to just convey the info with much more ease.
Wish I saw this 10 min ago..
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However - it's well noted that luke became the strongest Jedi to ever live.
+Tom Herbert whatever...
+Tom Herbert
Based off of the first 6 movies alone and ignoring everything that followed that Lucas approved, yes.
But going off Lucas approved Star Wars Universe, prime Luke stomps prime Anakin with ease.
+Tom Ellis no.
+SteakOnSpear Actually yes, after Lucas sold SW to Disney that was a part of the last movie notes he sent. That Luke was to become the most powerful force sensitive ever. More than anyone before or after, Sith or Jedi. Look it up.
Target Demographic Most force sensitive, doesn't mean your the best. It takes more than being sensitive to the force, it takes training. I was gonna say this earlier, but it's very likely that Luke will become the strongest Jedi in the next movie, as he's way older now and likely more powerful. But right now atm, we haven't seen him at his peak, only as a young guy in the original trilogy and that last scene in 7 ofc.
At that age comparison Anakin has so much more experience and raw force ability. Once he became Vader his potential was significantly limited. Luke, on the other hand, was free to progress to become the most powerful Jedi of all time
Yeah then give it all up because he had a bad dream, and not q vision, just him sensing the power of Ben, then he tried to assassinate him out of nowhere
@@emanuelgonzalez7213 Yeah, he saw his mistake but it was too late and Ben understandably was bitter. Frailties exist even among the greatest.
If they were both matched in their prime Luke would’ve won. He mastered all 7 forms. I mean come on.
i mean anakin never got to his prime because he turned into darth vader. If anakin didnt turn into vader, he would then go on to master all 7 forms and also would incorperarte both sides of the force like mace windu. Anakin would probably be on par with Luke.
Nathan UTB everyone has a prime, what you mean is that he never met his full potential if he had not lost his limbs which I agree with completely.
@@allengrandison8628 yeah that's basically what I meant
@@nathanutb9899 anakin was to weak minded to master all 7 forms, which was the main reason he wasn't granted the rank of master, he had the skills, the strength and everything but he was really weak minded and that's why he became Vader
Aniakin as Vader created a new lightsaber fighting style.
The defining point though is that Luke had absolute self discipline and restraint by Return of the Jedi, just as Obi-Wan did in Revenge of the Sith, unlike Anakin's rage fuel abilities in Revenge of the Sith...
Almost fairly matched in all other aspects, Luke would underwhelm Anakin by temperament and inadvertently be the victor - even without "the high ground."
You do realize that Obi-Wan was able to predict Anakin's jump to the High Ground because Obi literally did the same move against Maul, right?
There is no way they are fairly matched in light saber dueling. Anakin is far superior in that area. He was the best warrior in the Clone Wars... Anakin has literally slayed thousands with his saber.. No comparison really
I don't thin Anakin stopping the punch of a manga guard with his "bare hand" is accurate since that was his robotic hand.
Devin Gendron Anakin does not have a robotic hand. Luke does
I agree, Anakin would be victorious. I go back to the experiences he accrued during the Clone Wars. Also, Count Duku had no trouble with Asajj Ventress or Maul's brother Savage Opress using his force lightning and Anakin killed him. Savage Opress had his way against both Anakin and Kenobi at the same time. Just goes to show A>B>C
"I warn you not to underestimate my powers" -Luke
"YOU UNDERESTIMATED MY POWER!!!" -Darth Vader
Like Father, Like Son, but Luke didn't get his legs chopped off.
I think this fight was already settled in Return of the Jedi about 30+ years ago...lol
I have no idea what this guy is going on about. If anything Anakin only got even stronger as Darth Vader, and Luke came out on top of that fight...So yeah.
Some pretty skewed logic here.
Many debate that Vader was holding back on fighting Luke, due to the fact that it's his own son and that he was on the tipping point of turning sides. Vader was still able to defeat Sidious after his battle with Luke. Also, Luke had already fought Vader once and adapted his fighting style specifically towards it for the next time they fought.
+Maverick Hunter Zero
*'If anything Anakin only got even stronger as Darth Vader..."*
He did not get stronger as Darth Vader. He got dramatically weaker.....and slower......and bulkier.
Morpheus His prosthetics were made to augment his physical ability though, not slow him down. The only thing he loses out on for the mechanical parts is the ability to use force lightning, which doesn't amount to a whole lot really.
Maverick Hunter Zero If by "stronger" you mean being able to put his fist through a wall, then yes I agree with you. If by "stronger" you mean an all around better warrior and fighter, then I disagree with you. I would take non-cybernetic Darth Vader over cybernetic Darth Vader any day of the week and four times on Sundays.
Not so sure myself...I mean, if you look at how he handled Kanan and Ezra in Rebels, that looked pretty damn powerful to me.
Add to that his ability in the Force Unleashed games (which may or may not still be canon, I grant you...) and Vader pretty much handles combat no differently than Anakin Vader would have. I'd call that a pretty impressive display of power if you ask me.
I want to see an approximation of Anakin at his full potential take on Abaloth. Anakin had the potential to be the strongest force user of all time, better even than Grandmaster Luke who has been seen performing feats far greater than anyone else in Star Wars lore. Abaloth is an opponent that Grandmaster Luke couldn't defeat on his own, an opponent who is at the very least a challenge for Anakin at his full potential.
Nathan Mitchell Luke didn’t meet his full potential either
But he was much closer than anakin
Luke had the same potential as his father,. George Lucas explained that in ESB commentary luke had The same potential as his father
Anakin is my Favorite Charcter so I'll go with Anakin
Tymaine Hamilton i love Anakin Too
Me too
Just because he’s your fav character doesn’t mean Luke isn’t stronger
@@chasethechosenone8478 you're right like isn't
Very good video though, love the depth and detail and very glad you was honest
Glad you enjoyed!
although anakin is definitely "stronger", Luke is by far the better Jedi. he knew how to balance the force, had a very strong mind, and was also a highly skilled physical warrior. he was just about as close as it gets to a perfect Jedi. anakin was a douchebag who relied purely on physical abilities.
meditation wont help in a fight, strength, agility and actual ability with the force would win the battle giving it to Anakin.
Agreed that Luke is the better Jedi. Unfortunately that doesn't mean a lot in combat. Luke has comparatively little experience in lightsaber dueling though he did have a good showing against Vader. Anakin is simply honed by the Clone Wars and is more powerful than Luke in the force. If this was Grandmaster Luke in legends, no question Anakin's outclassed.
+Nathan Fite if Anakin was to stay clear from the dark side however a full potential Anakin would defeat Luke at his full potential. I honestly do believe had Anakin not stopped Windu from killing Sidious he'd have been respected and trusted by other Jedi and would've gotten training by Windu in the Vaapad form and whilst some may say this would've turned him to the dark side I believe that feeling he was trusted by other Jedi was all that Anakin needed to stay clear from the dark side. I believe that Anakins ego would've been lessened and he could've became a brilliant Jedi although this is hypothetical and from what we saw of the two in canon yes Luke is the better Jedi
agreed, A fully realized Anakin had the potential to be the most powerful jedi ever.
WatermeIown ok but Anakin was a far superior with a light saber not to mention he was a good tacitatian during the clone wars you cant say he's not smart he was just overwhelmed by his emotions and fear
He did bring balance to the force, by wiping up both sides, he effectively killed off all Jedi and Seth
Bloody seth thank god hes dead
Who is seth
You meant wiping off and sith I am right?
@@abrahamalardin2158 wiping out but i would imagine so, unless ge really just hates seth
@@JayF2912 what's a seth anyway or he meant sith.
I really felt like when you set the stage of them being the same age it was already over. The sheer amount of experience had over Luke is just not comparable.
I’m pretty sure these videos years ago got me into Star Wars
You did a great job in this one I must admit
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You know after this I have a good match up, Dooku vs Vader. As you've said here they were of the most skilled in their respective time lines, and both trained by Sidious.
+33jedi Anakin already killed Dooku in a fair fight. Wasn't Darth Vader then but Darth Vader was focused more on his skill than his physical ability being that he was mostly machine. Dooku, I think, would have an edge though with his force lightning.
Erick Santos I would agree to some extent but the Emperor did trained Vader and his main skill was lightning. So I'm sure Vader had a defense against it even if it's just his lightsaber or a more powerful barrier. Also, on side of Dooku, it was mentioned ion the video that Anakins fight was only after Dooku had been worn down by both Djem So and Soresu masters at the same time. Had it only been Anakin from the begining we don't know if the results would have been the same.
33jedi Vader definitely had a defensive strategy for blocking lightning if he could use the the force to negate fire from a blaster. Anakin from the beginning or not, there is never a guaranteed outcome. I don't believe Dooku was worn down and it was him that kicked Anakin across the platform to the wall. Who knows? but he did kill Dooku.
Erick Santos I don't deny that he did in fact kill him, I'm just saying that with Anakin's temper fueling him he does seem to get stronger, or at least more unleashed. Vader however seems to have far more control and skill with the force. I think in the end Dooku would still take it but I'd like to see what Verses Series would come up with because they know a lot more than I do because I know a bit more about Vader than I do Dooku so it's a bit unbalanced how I'm seeing it, and maybe you're right and a Anakin would have won anyway even alone, Vader was a bit slower than Anakin, more skilled, but slower, mostly due to age and injury. Maybe that is what seals it for Dooku's win is his speed mixed with his finess cause he kept up with Yoda on both speed and Force so I don't deny his prowess either.
33jedi Yea it was clear Anakin was using his rage to give him strength, but that's irrelevant. I don't think Darth Vader was more skilled, well more skilled with the force sense he was forced to hone his skills. Without the use of his limbs and being much slower, less agile, less versatile, he had to compensate. He was also far more experience because had his pre suit experience in addition to his experience in the suit. Dooku was a master duelist and powerful with the force so it would be a good fight.
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I fully concur to this.
Anakin should have stayed alive. He was the best. He is always my favorite jedi
yea but yk ORIGINAL TRILOGY
Luke wasn’t bothered by sand, so...
Wouldn't Luke also be holding back for most of his fight against Vader now that he knows that he's his father?
Yup because he didn't want to kill his father. Though Vader was prepared to kill Luke. But Luke got into his mind through the force. Seen the good and used that to his advantage.
Vader wasn’t holding back because he cut off Luke’s arm
Emilio Noriega that was in 5
Stephen Smith yeah before he held nothing back but until Vader found out about Leia we know what he does in that room
Emilio Noriega when he cut off his hand he didn't intend to kill him, plus he toyed with him most of that duel
Luke: *throws sand at anakin*
Anakin: *puts luke up for adoption*
childhood vid, miss em vs battles.