Mappers are worth it. With the ship I now reliably make at least one devine every 2 hours. I now have a few level 10 farmers in the fields. It's also very worthwhile as passive income. Today I made 8 devines in 4 hours with the ship. Always the 30 minute route with millions worth of food.
do you even care about the smelted bars? they feel useless at this point. I want to switch to shipping food only ignoring city "requested" resources and wonder if that will work
to note its a level 1 area in the town so leveling filter will take priority. only affects things like transmutes and such really(I have 5k in stash so they are hidden)
Don't forget that the market price is what people are buying for,. Not always what they are selling g for. Most things are a few c above the buying price if you want to wait, or you can set a buy price lower than the rate if you want to wait. There are several 2c scarabs I buy for 1c over the day from people selling at that price. Similarly I got div orbs for 151 overnight. Put items you want to sell in your inventory to check them before selling so you don't get tricked by the one dude trying to buy a scarab for 1:20 :)
Yeah good mention. As a tip when you put in the stuff you want to sell the other way in you can estimate a bit for how much to sell. For example: You want to sell a divine for chaos then you first check how much it is to buy a divine for chaos. Does not always work since not always there is shown a market value but most of the time it is a better way to see how much something is actual worth than to just sell it as fast as possible.
One thing I really wish the mappers did would be to supplement gold. Every map they do, they could have like 2 or 3k gold that you can shift click into your inv, that would make the system perfect imo
@@PathofEvening i tried ding shipping and all that as I leveled up but i found I could never upgrade my stuff because I was spending money on jobs all the time. Sort of has me thinking about people complaining about fast food prices, though i really still don't believe it's worker wages are too high lol
Speaking of the mappers, the loot should include gold like it drops for players. They would alleviate gold issues. I mean c'mon, what are they doing? Leaving it on the ground?
I have a really good performance with both boats and the mappers, funny enough each one gave me divines but also a mirror shard each. My only problem with mappers is they eat... they devour all your gold they cost a fk ton to maintain IX mappers cost 3k avg per so running 3 groups of mappers consume 54k gold alone, not to mention the map sustain. So if you are having problems with gold they are going to make things a lot worst. They are really good but man they are expensive.
hi larold, ive found that if you equip 2 ventors, a bisco leash and a gold flask with some flask effect, you start shitting out more gold than anyone could ever dream of
Thats because rarity affects gold. Seems like gold is generated as a conversion from items. So the more items and items with higher rarity dropping the more gold can be converted.
Just got first two voidstones so, not as far along as you, but I've had a divine from the mappers in white maps on two seperate occasions. Just to let y'all know, they don't have to be red or even yellow maps to get an odd divine here and there.
awesome video thanks! I wish someone would do a video on the best way to utilize the dust from disenchanting. I mean I hear that it's a waste to use it with crops as it the dust never affects currency, but I'd like to know what the best uses are for dust and how much to put in, not recombs as they suck lol. I may just skip disenchanting altogether from now on unless someone can provide a good use for it.
The dust is actually a little underwhelming. The only purposes for it are recombinators and shipping, and you only need to put a couple thousand dust onto a boat for it to completely hit its ceiling on diminishing returns, so it's a bit of a weird design.
the wage cost not always determine by another job but its always better to avoid second job as mapper or disenchanter cuz they are the most expensive ones. I got alot X tier single job and the wage differs by 10-30 so... And about rolling i getting more 9-10tiers with single 1800 rolls than 22k but maybe it was my own luck.
I hate the balance between mapper wages and the cost to find/replace high tier mappers. I lost 1 T10 and 3 T9 mappers in a single day running 1% fail chance maps. I wish you could at least reach 0% fail chance with a high tier team running T16s, so you'd always have a team able to run, then you can experiment with higher fail chance mappers without the risk of losing your ability to run mappers for a few hours while you grind to get a replacement.
But how the hell your mappers can finish your maps? I meant, I just tryed it, mappers lvl 5 with white maps tier 5, less than 30% chance to die, and in only 2 seconds on the map they die .... I just can't get it, futhermore, they have a really high lvl for only T5 maps, what I'm missing?
You want to make sure your chance to die is very low, like 1-5%. If it's higher than that, lower the tier of the map, or level up the map device/recruit higher-level mappers.
A friend of mine got hinekoras lock other day... I got my self few items that sold for divs and some raw divs. Only annoyance whit mappers is that you need them to be at least rank 8 to be worth time and money...
ive lost well over 20 t9 mappers just doing t1 maps. I see no difference between a t1 or a t9. 1% is always 1%. I just dont fail the map, a runner dies too.
Good players knew this stuff was worth it 5 days ago. Why make up your mind or listen to delusional reddit stream-watchers before you even have a workable setup? I'm not trying to be hostile here but it's just really annoying that every league players and content creators alike rush to solidify their opinion on mechanics in the first 24-48 hours.
Their first 24-36 hours is equivalent to a week or more of the average gamers playtime. They have a good grasp on how people will feel when they finally get to it. TLDR, its not rewarding enough and takes way too much play time to keep running.
@@totallynottrademarked5279 Even if playing casually and efficiently it's still plenty usable and very profitable through intuitive use and requires no specific strategy. It's massively rewarding and takes very, very little play time to keep running if you're mostly doing Farms + Boats. My casual or new player friends are pulling divines every day. The point is: if you haven't actually engaged with the content you don't have an informed opinion and should reserve judgement. It's like doing unjuiced T1 maps and complaining that mapping is 1/35th the currency/hr of Sanctum.
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Love that you’re willing to throw away 90c per map “For Science!” 😁❤️
Inquiring minds just gotta know.
Mappers are worth it. With the ship I now reliably make at least one devine every 2 hours. I now have a few level 10 farmers in the fields. It's also very worthwhile as passive income. Today I made 8 devines in 4 hours with the ship. Always the 30 minute route with millions worth of food.
do you even care about the smelted bars? they feel useless at this point. I want to switch to shipping food only ignoring city "requested" resources and wonder if that will work
What is your approach with dust?
try 1k each crops + 10k dust :)
@@andrewkorin Not really, I even fired almost all the employees in the mines and smelters..
@@El_Cattivo1988 makes sense. Thanks. I came to the same conclusion. Mines were stopped yesterday, and smelters are today.
Btw you can apply your loot filter in the bottom right, to pick things that you are interested in.
Good tip!
Cmon seriously? That's dope
to note its a level 1 area in the town so leveling filter will take priority. only affects things like transmutes and such really(I have 5k in stash so they are hidden)
Oh nice I didn’t know about the backspace technique I was just switching the " I want " to a divine and back, this is way easier so appreciate it
Welcome!
Great video! Lots of nuanced points here that were very helpful for me! I hope yours and everyone here's league is going great! Cheers!
Excellent, glad to help!
Yoo, this league has a hold of me, ive missed PoE in this way.
Nice :)
Now I just need 100k Gold per hour so I can pay all these mappers. While playing casually ofc.
Exactly.
That backspace tip is huge, thank you! Been bugging me a lot haha
Glad to help!
My heart was in pain when i see that you launch a kirac mission without buying his chisel. (that's 7c free)
Good shout
Don't forget that the market price is what people are buying for,. Not always what they are selling g for. Most things are a few c above the buying price if you want to wait, or you can set a buy price lower than the rate if you want to wait. There are several 2c scarabs I buy for 1c over the day from people selling at that price. Similarly I got div orbs for 151 overnight.
Put items you want to sell in your inventory to check them before selling so you don't get tricked by the one dude trying to buy a scarab for 1:20 :)
Yes.
Yeah good mention. As a tip when you put in the stuff you want to sell the other way in you can estimate a bit for how much to sell.
For example:
You want to sell a divine for chaos then you first check how much it is to buy a divine for chaos.
Does not always work since not always there is shown a market value but most of the time it is a better way to see how much something is actual worth than to just sell it as fast as possible.
One thing I really wish the mappers did would be to supplement gold. Every map they do, they could have like 2 or 3k gold that you can shift click into your inv, that would make the system perfect imo
That would be good!
Kings seems like you dump your gold into upgrades each section to max before it’s of any use
Pretty much
@@PathofEvening i tried ding shipping and all that as I leveled up but i found I could never upgrade my stuff because I was spending money on jobs all the time. Sort of has me thinking about people complaining about fast food prices, though i really still don't believe it's worker wages are too high lol
Speaking of the mappers, the loot should include gold like it drops for players. They would alleviate gold issues. I mean c'mon, what are they doing? Leaving it on the ground?
They're keeping it for themselves... probably!
@@PathofEvening I'm takin that out of their wages 😤
Thanks man. I'm not touching this until I see what the patch looks like.
Ok
Don't be a puss and touch it... smh
missing out on divines bro kekw
but how to you farm the millions of gold u need to sustain this ?
Maps.
if you buy from kirac dont forget to pickup the chisels
good video! gonna try my first auto mapping later today
True! Good luck!
How do you get all the required gold? I seem to get only 10k per map,..
Gotta farm juicier maps!
I have a really good performance with both boats and the mappers, funny enough each one gave me divines but also a mirror shard each. My only problem with mappers is they eat... they devour all your gold they cost a fk ton to maintain IX mappers cost 3k avg per so running 3 groups of mappers consume 54k gold alone, not to mention the map sustain. So if you are having problems with gold they are going to make things a lot worst. They are really good but man they are expensive.
Save some currency for the rest of us! The mappers are definitely too expensive at their current pricing, but the returns are good.
the boats brought me a mirror shard, so im stuck with them
Can you tell me what value of shipment there was?
Congrats
Disenchanting also bumps up price of workers
Can you explain this further?
@@ervinjedd8026 i think he meant while disechanters work they cost more per hour ....
Disenchanters and farmers are more expensive than miners, smelters, or sailors. Not so much as mappers, but still more.
I wish we could use scarabs with the mappers would be cool
Yes it would, but it would also make them more expensive
hi larold, ive found that if you equip 2 ventors, a bisco leash and a gold flask with some flask effect, you start shitting out more gold than anyone could ever dream of
That's a lot of gear pressure, but yeah, sounds pretty good.
Thats because rarity affects gold. Seems like gold is generated as a conversion from items. So the more items and items with higher rarity dropping the more gold can be converted.
Just got first two voidstones so, not as far along as you, but I've had a divine from the mappers in white maps on two seperate occasions. Just to let y'all know, they don't have to be red or even yellow maps to get an odd divine here and there.
That is true!
Pro tip - get those cheap chisels while rolling kirac for maps :)
Yup.
Thank you for this video, exile.
You're welcome, exile.
how do you feel when they keep dying? it's honestly extremely annoying, they die every like 5-20 maps with only 1% chance to fail
Not great! Not having the same level of bad luck, but they definitely die more than they should. Just lost a Level 10 to a 1% map. Sucks!
Do these maps respec scryed maps? I have defiled scryed to jungle valley & wonder if I could get apocathery from jungle would be possible
They do not
awesome video thanks! I wish someone would do a video on the best way to utilize the dust from disenchanting. I mean I hear that it's a waste to use it with crops as it the dust never affects currency, but I'd like to know what the best uses are for dust and how much to put in, not recombs as they suck lol. I may just skip disenchanting altogether from now on unless someone can provide a good use for it.
The dust is actually a little underwhelming. The only purposes for it are recombinators and shipping, and you only need to put a couple thousand dust onto a boat for it to completely hit its ceiling on diminishing returns, so it's a bit of a weird design.
These guys are all playing on hardcore made me chuckle. I wonder if we are there mappers in their world 😅
Maybe
got 2 mirror shards from the boat.. and the map device.. 1 of the maps came back with 2 divines..
Save some currency for the rest of us!
I have to ask what your boat values are to get 2 mirror shards?
And stop scraping the currency away from us :D
Nice! I have to give mappers another go.
Also you can just CTRL left click to select market items in inventory.
Have fun!
I would love to be able to actually see them run the maps lol
It would be a nice touch if they all actually walked into the portals when you click the "Open Map" button.
How do you sustain your gold for the mappers?
You also run maps.
How do we reduce the chance of mappers dying? I keep having my t5-6 mappers die in 1-2 mod white maps. They only get like 5-10% in and just die.
Run lower level maps, hire better mappers, upgrade map device
the wage cost not always determine by another job but its always better to avoid second job as mapper or disenchanter cuz they are the most expensive ones. I got alot X tier single job and the wage differs by 10-30 so... And about rolling i getting more 9-10tiers with single 1800 rolls than 22k but maybe it was my own luck.
That's true.
I hate the balance between mapper wages and the cost to find/replace high tier mappers. I lost 1 T10 and 3 T9 mappers in a single day running 1% fail chance maps. I wish you could at least reach 0% fail chance with a high tier team running T16s, so you'd always have a team able to run, then you can experiment with higher fail chance mappers without the risk of losing your ability to run mappers for a few hours while you grind to get a replacement.
They're definitely too expensive.
Is your build purely mapping no bossing, or is 2mil dps plenty for you?
Earthshatter PoB damage is misleading. This build shreds ubers and t17's.
The mappers got me a divine in less than 24 hours after building it. There's definitely a lot of potential.
Yup!
But how the hell your mappers can finish your maps? I meant, I just tryed it, mappers lvl 5 with white maps tier 5, less than 30% chance to die, and in only 2 seconds on the map they die .... I just can't get it, futhermore, they have a really high lvl for only T5 maps, what I'm missing?
You want to make sure your chance to die is very low, like 1-5%. If it's higher than that, lower the tier of the map, or level up the map device/recruit higher-level mappers.
@@PathofEvening I hope that works, is really frustrating xD
video description says mappers, then goes on about something other than mappers
Ok
Unfortunately, mapping mechanics are the worst and don't cost the time, spent on it. Thank you for video )
They're pretty expensive and unrewarding until you're able to get them operating at a higher level, then they really pay out big time.
AINTNOWAY that u can drag the currency's to the tab fuck me I've doing manually with the filter ...
@@CoBrhilot you can drag or ctrl click the item you want to sell from your inventory
This is also true.
You can feel the pain when he realizes that it was a bad idea to run a t17 with mappers😂
Gotta take a little risk here and there!
Where do I get the Gold to sustain mappers?
Maps! We have talked about a couple of gold strategies in recent videos.
A friend of mine got hinekoras lock other day... I got my self few items that sold for divs and some raw divs. Only annoyance whit mappers is that you need them to be at least rank 8 to be worth time and money...
Pretty nice, but yes, they definitely don't provide much value until you've got your town and map device upgraded to a pretty high level.
ive lost well over 20 t9 mappers just doing t1 maps. I see no difference between a t1 or a t9. 1% is always 1%. I just dont fail the map, a runner dies too.
1% feels like more
My automappers looted brother's gift from a burial chambers
Very nice.
It overall feels pretty bad if you get unlucky and you feel like your just wasting your time
They can be a bit feast-or-famine, but when they feast, oh they feast!
I wouldn't call the kingsmarch as passive income :D it requires a lot of maps and gold to feed them. But maybe I'm just too slow in farming gold.
Fair enough!
you have some cool flasks i never really seen
Flask skins, MTX
First map with this " strat " cluster jewel for 60c and einhar memory harvest beasts xD
Pretty good!
What is the max lvl of buildings in Kingsmarch?
11.
And its always the t10 mapper that dies 😢
oof
My mappers yesterday gave me jewel for 12divs, just from yellow map😂😂♥️
Wowza!
are you using yolo mouse?
Not familiar with it.
@@PathofEvening how did you get that mouse cursor? looks sick
MTX
hey i also tested t17 mine was 100% completion got the frag but stil lost money on it:( wrong frag i dont think its wroth runing t17
Probably not
Bro I just wanna be able to run a level 1 map lol
so where is the div here?
The next map.
@@PathofEvening lol
Can they do blighted maps ?
Nope. =(
My mappers got me a hinekoras lock in yellow maps
Hell yeah!
Why not buy his 20 chisels for 8c?
Should, wasn't thinking!
How the hell do you have enough non t16 red maps to fuel 3 mapping stations?
Just a lot of game playing
I ran out of red maps in 3 days with map runners....
Hmm, they've been sort of self-sustaining
Too bad that im in sanctum printing service prison corporation and i dont earn any gold to pay them mappers
Sounds like it's time for a jailbreak.
I played so mich past 10 days my eyes started to hurt.. i need to take 24 hpurs brake.. 😂
Everyone needs a little rest from time to time!
I have a level 1 pickaxe dude..did I win ?
basically expect ten divines from the next time he’s mining bismuth ore
Good job
High level re roll is a joke
It should be better than it is, that's for sure. Spending 22k and getting level 7's is lame.
@@PathofEvening very
Brexit League.... It's not working lol
Brexit sucks, but we don't think this does
@@PathofEvening It does. On pure copium at this point. Gonna be interesting to see the drop off after they announce zero buffs on Tuesday.
Ok
Good players knew this stuff was worth it 5 days ago. Why make up your mind or listen to delusional reddit stream-watchers before you even have a workable setup? I'm not trying to be hostile here but it's just really annoying that every league players and content creators alike rush to solidify their opinion on mechanics in the first 24-48 hours.
Not sure why you got the impression everything is set in stone. Like everyone else, we can change our minds as time goes on
Their first 24-36 hours is equivalent to a week or more of the average gamers playtime. They have a good grasp on how people will feel when they finally get to it. TLDR, its not rewarding enough and takes way too much play time to keep running.
@@totallynottrademarked5279 Even if playing casually and efficiently it's still plenty usable and very profitable through intuitive use and requires no specific strategy. It's massively rewarding and takes very, very little play time to keep running if you're mostly doing Farms + Boats. My casual or new player friends are pulling divines every day.
The point is: if you haven't actually engaged with the content you don't have an informed opinion and should reserve judgement. It's like doing unjuiced T1 maps and complaining that mapping is 1/35th the currency/hr of Sanctum.
I can't afford the gold to pay mappers 🫤 I'm too casual apparently.
Let them take a break!