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Personally I would like to see more missions or seneral type videos. There is only so many dogfight videos that can be done. Not trying to criticize too much just a thought.
I think you once did a video of it but would like to see if you can turn a BVR fight into a dogfight by just blasting full burner straight at the other plane, dodging missiles by a quick bank and roll or however YOU would doit lol
Misread the title and thought I was going to see a dogfight. Got a third of the way in and decided I didn't care about the dogfight anymore. Nice mini-doc. Cool aircraft.
Y'know, when you put Victor Belyev's picture up my immediate thought was "well that's clearly Duchovny if they make a documentary about him"@@GrowlingSidewinder
eeeew no...! Thats like saying the PT Cruiser or the Prowler is one of the most beautiful cars ever. Yuck! SU-35, possibly. But I'm partial to the Rafale.
YF 23 with smoked it before it even gotten range. After that if they did get up close, the yf-23 would maintain its energy advantage and yeah, another smoking hole in the ground
Thank you GS for uploading this high quality content so frequently. Every single one of them is just so incredibly immersing, making me forget the troubles of life for a short time. It really means a lot to me❤.
The XP-55 was kind of designed around this principle (matter of fact, it's not easy to distinguish the back from the front) however its swings were swept backwards and not forwards, which did give it off a bit
One additional problem with forward swept wings is one of control, as the wing deflects under load the AOA increases, applying more load to the wing and forcing the aircraft to turn tighter. A rear swept wing deflects but the AOA decreases, so the pilot has to give more input. An analogy would be FWD vs RWD cars - the forward swept wing is like a RWD car that tends to oversteer, it's manageable, but requires far more experience and control than the FWD car and it's tendency to understeer.
The difficulty with FSWs is that tip stall always occurs before the root, due to the way spanwise twist is distributed under load for a conventional span/rib/skin structure, unless such severe static washout is employed that most of the wing is not loaded at lower lift levels. The technology which makes such a design feasible is composite wing structures, where ply layout can be used to create dynamic washout under vertical tip deflection. NASA began to investigate both the aerodynamics and the structures of these designs in the very early 80s, when both technologies were nascent. The Soviets did not have access to this structural technology at the time, so could not make the design close then.
It's the other way round. On FSWs the root stalls first, before the wingtip does. That's in fact one of the reasons the design retains roll control at high angles of attack.
I learned about stress and structure at flying college. We learned a lot about bending and bending relief. The pylon mount on airliners is great at damping gusty wing bending. Swept wings naturally bend to reduce tip loads. A reverse sweep like this does the reverse, it will increase wing angle at the tips and increase tip loading. A bit crazy really- you have to make it so strong to cope it will weight far too much. Just a dumb idea.
Your low tone but loud voice combined with the eerily fascinating music and the 90s era film of a failed soviet project gives a weirdly interesting vibe. Great documentary.
The Su-47 and X-29 are some of the few planes that you can make correct “pretend” hand plane gestures as you move your thumb and pinky out to make the forward swept wing appearance ;)
There is very beautiful and informative series of russian docs Dubbed in english. Its called "Russia wings". Its so beautiful that it tracks things from the roots n explain even why the need for the machines themselves and takes about the competition with other countries.
@@vasilijevukadinovic6843 It's a shame that RUclips eliminated the original Russian channel two years ago, where the chapters came out and were later subbed and subtitled into English. but they have continued uploading on their new channel. you can find them. They publish weekly on Mondays. Luckily, over the years I saved the episodes that interested me the most, so before that happened I already had a good amount
Bro I thought this was like a Dark Skies or Dark Docs video until your Fox 2 intro! Awesome formatting and delivery and hella vibes from your BGM. Cheers bro
This is the coolest looking jet ever or at least one of them. love this thing. thanks for another video with it. i literally exclaimed "nooooo!!!" when i saw one just sitting delapidated af in a junk yard somewhere in siberia. really belongs in a museum.
Great video & quite accurate. I would like to point out that while the SU-47 does not have traditional horizontal stabilizers, it does have some rather large horizontal trim tabs that seem to serve the ssme purpose. You can see them moving in the video.
the side profile of Su-47 looks similar to the J-20. I always thought besides the wings, just the centre fuselage and the proportion of it and the rudder, J-20 looks really similar to Su-47
maybe because they have no use for an aircraft that has to be limited to 6g's and is a logistical nightmare to keep in the air? I too once thought this thing was likely the future of aircraft design...then i read up on it. By the time material science catches up and allows this designs wings to stay on the aircraft above speeds it currently cant....the other aircraft designs will incorporate those same new materials and go even faster and be more stable. And extremely high off bore sight weapons will be employed in 6th gen fighters so a high AOA aircraft that has to be limited to 1.6m is just utterly pointless in future air combat.
@@Simbirsk2130Not sure where this comparison comes from, they don't even have remotely similar designs besides having canards. Its an amalgamation of Su-27's, 35's, and likely a few prototypes such as the 47, and a few obvious details stolen from the Raptor precursors. Its quite literally a bastard jet.
People wrongly name that maneuver a Kvochur's Bell. The Bell is a tailslide. I don't know what russians call that maneuver but it's certainly not a bell. Personally, I think cobra spin or cobra snap fits it the best. ;)
I love these mini-docs. Very informative. I would like to see the forward swept SU-47 against the swept wing F-14B. I think that would be. extremely interesting. Great video. Thanks.
Amazing video! I always loved how this jet looked in Ace Combat 5 when I first saw it. Especially when you get to the part of the story where the planes become black.
I know it's a cliche to point out limitations in Russian military tech, but the Grumman X-29 was not "similar" to the Su-47. It took flight 13 years earlier. So if anything the Su-47 is based on the X-29 concept.
If we evaluate only the appearance, then I have always liked our Russian aircraft. Su-47 and SU-27. Very elegant. F-22 and SU-57 are similar in appearance, but not as beautiful.
Only imagine the terror of seeing it against you in dogfight. Almost everything is unknown about it... You can't chase him for guns, only can shoot it with a rocket, then suddenly some stelth stuff out of nowhere, making the rocket go crazy... this is a mistery plane by design.
@@namelessmidnight Well I believe they will let some crazy good pilot to fly it. Testing missions are no joke. I really doubt they will expose it too much at risk.
I saw that special bird. At the MAKS-2019 airshow. In static display. Not far away from the MiG-1.44 prototype. Both was in good condition. And I saw the flight of the Su-57 and Su-35S. Both of them was really impressive. But for me is the most interesting flight was the TVC dogfight demo which was presented with 2 Su-30SMs. The pilots were Vyacheslav and Evgeny Averyanov (fater and son).
The Berkut is one of my favorite ASF's that never made just like the YF-23 Blackwidow II. I bet most people dont even know what the Blackwidow 1 is. ..I'll wait...
The benefits of flight performance begs for a return to variable geometry examining forward swept at subsonic for maneuverability and backwards swept to increase velocity at supersonic.
Now imagine this aircraft or something like it that had variable geometry wings that swung both directions. Swing rearward for speed, and swing forward for slower speed dog fighting situations and throw in thrust vectoring. Imagine trying to dog fight against that.
G'day. Awesome info mate. What a boss of an aircraft. On my top 5 of aircraft ever built and tested. Thankyou for taking the time for the research. You've done a great job and would love to see more
It's still in Zhukovsky. You can find it with apple/google maps with satellite view. It is parked next to another secret project vehicle, the Sukhoi S-70 UAV demonstrator.
Nice new video style, I enjoyed this. I would have liked some performance comparisons as well, your the guy who knows all the different air frames so well!
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Personally I would like to see more missions or seneral type videos. There is only so many dogfight videos that can be done. Not trying to criticize too much just a thought.
I think you once did a video of it but would like to see if you can turn a BVR fight into a dogfight by just blasting full burner straight at the other plane, dodging missiles by a quick bank and roll or however YOU would doit lol
NGAD vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns and missles plzkthx
SU-57 vs F-15 ACTIVE, dogfight, guns only plzkthx
Day 23 asking for F-22 vs 10 MiG 21
The design and capability of the Su-47 Berkut has always captivated me.
Me too!
Misread the title and thought I was going to see a dogfight. Got a third of the way in and decided I didn't care about the dogfight anymore. Nice mini-doc. Cool aircraft.
Same here. Still not sure which I'd have preferred more. I didn't know much about the Su-47, but now I know substantially more than I did.
That music score tho👌🏽expected concerned glances from Scully n' Mulder there
Big fan of the x-files here
Y'know, when you put Victor Belyev's picture up my immediate thought was "well that's clearly Duchovny if they make a documentary about him"@@GrowlingSidewinder
Trust no one Mr.@GrowlingSidewinder
@@GrowlingSidewinder do you have any plans on using the Cessna o2 sky master in a video in the future. I think it would be a great idea!
Imagine a world with the Golden Eagle and the Black Widow ? Hopefully we will see more of them dogfighting in DCS, G/S ?
And the super tomcat
in the 90's i had a su-47 micro machine. that thing didn't leave my pocket for years until I finally lost it.
lol I had the X-29, those little things sure were fun.
Didn't know they made one..I'll have to go look now Iol
@@FuelAirSparkTime i was mistaken it was the x-29 model .
I've always thought that the Su-47 was one of the most beautiful aircraft ever made
It looks incredible
For sure. Mysterious lookin
Actual fact. It's one of my all time favorites.
eeeew no...! Thats like saying the PT Cruiser or the Prowler is one of the most beautiful cars ever. Yuck! SU-35, possibly. But I'm partial to the Rafale.
SU-37 Terminator
SU-47 vs YF-23 dogfight?
Su 47 gets clowned on lmao, energy trapped after the first turn.
In absolute fairness, I don't think there's many aircraft with a chance against the YF-23, and usually it's like 40% at best@@franciscohughes1757
Yes!
YF 23 with smoked it before it even gotten range. After that if they did get up close, the yf-23 would maintain its energy advantage and yeah, another smoking hole in the ground
I don’t get why people reply so aggressively to theoretical questions..
“We’ve got Mobius 1 on radar!”
It's one of the original three canon aircraft after
>F22
>F4
Here for the mini-docs. Love the regular content, but your channel hooked me with the combo of entertainment and education.
Thank you GS for uploading this high quality content so frequently. Every single one of them is just so incredibly immersing, making me forget the troubles of life for a short time. It really means a lot to me❤.
Thank u, I appreciate you all for watching
If they do choose to manufacture the UAVs using the Berkut, it could lead to some AC7 stuff
X-29 looks so symmetrical front and back like a straight up optical illusion
The XP-55 was kind of designed around this principle (matter of fact, it's not easy to distinguish the back from the front)
however its swings were swept backwards and not forwards, which did give it off a bit
I freaking love videos like this, reminds me of the history channel.
One additional problem with forward swept wings is one of control, as the wing deflects under load the AOA increases, applying more load to the wing and forcing the aircraft to turn tighter. A rear swept wing deflects but the AOA decreases, so the pilot has to give more input. An analogy would be FWD vs RWD cars - the forward swept wing is like a RWD car that tends to oversteer, it's manageable, but requires far more experience and control than the FWD car and it's tendency to understeer.
The difficulty with FSWs is that tip stall always occurs before the root, due to the way spanwise twist is distributed under load for a conventional span/rib/skin structure, unless such severe static washout is employed that most of the wing is not loaded at lower lift levels. The technology which makes such a design feasible is composite wing structures, where ply layout can be used to create dynamic washout under vertical tip deflection. NASA began to investigate both the aerodynamics and the structures of these designs in the very early 80s, when both technologies were nascent. The Soviets did not have access to this structural technology at the time, so could not make the design close then.
It's the other way round. On FSWs the root stalls first, before the wingtip does. That's in fact one of the reasons the design retains roll control at high angles of attack.
I learned about stress and structure at flying college. We learned a lot about bending and bending relief. The pylon mount on airliners is great at damping gusty wing bending. Swept wings naturally bend to reduce tip loads. A reverse sweep like this does the reverse, it will increase wing angle at the tips and increase tip loading. A bit crazy really- you have to make it so strong to cope it will weight far too much.
Just a dumb idea.
Your low tone but loud voice combined with the eerily fascinating music and the 90s era film of a failed soviet project gives a weirdly interesting vibe. Great documentary.
you dont call testbed a failed project.
I really like this documentary. Thanks for your hard work.
Thank you for watching.
The Su-47 and X-29 are some of the few planes that you can make correct “pretend” hand plane gestures as you move your thumb and pinky out to make the forward swept wing appearance ;)
It wasn't easy to find Soviet or Russia weapon systems documentary in English. Thanks to GS for making this video 🎉
There is very beautiful and informative series of russian docs Dubbed in english. Its called "Russia wings". Its so beautiful that it tracks things from the roots n explain even why the need for the machines themselves and takes about the competition with other countries.
Go to combat approved on RUclips. They have 40min documentaries on all there weapon systems.really well done
@@qa15q8 "Wings of Russia". but is good to watch some of the old "Wings of the Red Star" from Discovry, when the channel it was something
@@vasilijevukadinovic6843 It's a shame that RUclips eliminated the original Russian channel two years ago, where the chapters came out and were later subbed and subtitled into English. but they have continued uploading on their new channel. you can find them. They publish weekly on Mondays. Luckily, over the years I saved the episodes that interested me the most, so before that happened I already had a good amount
@@mikes989 Thanks a lot. I didnt even know of it
Bro I thought this was like a Dark Skies or Dark Docs video until your Fox 2 intro! Awesome formatting and delivery and hella vibes from your BGM. Cheers bro
Haha i knew it was GS when i clicked, but half way through I forgot and thought it was Dark Skies
@@konstantinilic3033 Without the annoyingly fast voice and actual facts
This is the coolest looking jet ever or at least one of them. love this thing. thanks for another video with it. i literally exclaimed "nooooo!!!" when i saw one just sitting delapidated af in a junk yard somewhere in siberia. really belongs in a museum.
Great video & quite accurate. I would like to point out that while the SU-47 does not have traditional horizontal stabilizers, it does have some rather large horizontal trim tabs that seem to serve the ssme purpose. You can see them moving in the video.
Jane's Advanced Tactical Fighters had a combat capable X-29 as one of the fighters you could fly.
the side profile of Su-47 looks similar to the J-20. I always thought besides the wings, just the centre fuselage and the proportion of it and the rudder, J-20 looks really similar to Su-47
The bumper sticker on my car says " My other vehicle is a Sukhoi 47 Berkut"
I'm about 75% surprised that China didn't manufacture a visual equivalent to the Su-47.
... Yet
maybe because they have no use for an aircraft that has to be limited to 6g's and is a logistical nightmare to keep in the air? I too once thought this thing was likely the future of aircraft design...then i read up on it. By the time material science catches up and allows this designs wings to stay on the aircraft above speeds it currently cant....the other aircraft designs will incorporate those same new materials and go even faster and be more stable. And extremely high off bore sight weapons will be employed in 6th gen fighters so a high AOA aircraft that has to be limited to 1.6m is just utterly pointless in future air combat.
they manufactured an approximate to the MiG 1.44 though - J20
@@Simbirsk2130 Chengdu pretty much took the Mig 1.44, compounded the wing a bit, and put the intakes on the side a lá Lockheed Martin.
@@Simbirsk2130Not sure where this comparison comes from, they don't even have remotely similar designs besides having canards. Its an amalgamation of Su-27's, 35's, and likely a few prototypes such as the 47, and a few obvious details stolen from the Raptor precursors.
Its quite literally a bastard jet.
Man, that Kvochur Bell the SU-35 was performing at 6:59 will never get old.
People wrongly name that maneuver a Kvochur's Bell. The Bell is a tailslide. I don't know what russians call that maneuver but it's certainly not a bell. Personally, I think cobra spin or cobra snap fits it the best. ;)
@@RC4ever I won't argue semantics, you have a jet in your pfp, I have my ugly face, I assume you know better. :)
Love these semi-short informational videos! Keep em coming!
3:03. Are the stabilators a joke to you? They're moving as you say they don't exist. 8:00 you see them moving. 8:07 both stabs are fully deflected.
Always loved the plane and the genius of its engineering!
Great video showcasing the golden eagle
Hey try the Mig 1.44
Pretty jet. Not terribly psyched about what they might want to use it for, but I'm at least thrilled to hear that it's not completely abandoned.
Definitely wouldn’t mind more mini- documentaries like this, great video!
... one of my first and favourite model kit planes. and still one of the best looking flying mashines!
Love the documentary style vids! Well done.
I wouldn't mind more videos like this. I enjoy aviation history past and present.
I love these mini-docs. Very informative. I would like to see the forward swept SU-47 against the swept wing F-14B. I think that would be. extremely interesting. Great video. Thanks.
Let the victor be justice.
Belka made extensive use of this aircraft.
Amazing video! I always loved how this jet looked in Ace Combat 5 when I first saw it. Especially when you get to the part of the story where the planes become black.
You bet,I still have it😊!
I love this topic so much. Thank you for uploading this on the big channel.
I know it's a cliche to point out limitations in Russian military tech, but the Grumman X-29 was not "similar" to the Su-47. It took flight 13 years earlier. So if anything the Su-47 is based on the X-29 concept.
I appreciate documentaries like this. It's a nice change from your awesome gameplay videos and they complement each other very well.
Love the informational video man. Welcome change up and well done.
I thought that F-22 was most beautiful plane ever. Now I see this. It is absolutely gorgeous!
If we evaluate only the appearance, then I have always liked our Russian aircraft. Su-47 and SU-27. Very elegant.
F-22 and SU-57 are similar in appearance, but not as beautiful.
Great mini-doc! the Berkut and the X-29 always did turn heads with the forward swept wings and canards.
during youtube's first or second year, there was a video of this plane and we all watched it in awe. who else knows it?
Lovely bit of Documentary content. Thanks for this!
Backwards boomerang go brrr
I hear if you induce a flat spin it will automatically RTB
I always loved how this one looked. Like a version of the future we didn't get or something.
Thanks for this historical piece.
Another really awe inspiring jet.
Good flow and comprehensive enough for a taste so to speak GS. Thank you for this style content- it’s different but fun
Only imagine the terror of seeing it against you in dogfight. Almost everything is unknown about it... You can't chase him for guns, only can shoot it with a rocket, then suddenly some stelth stuff out of nowhere, making the rocket go crazy... this is a mistery plane by design.
At the same time the probability of this thing to be smoked out of the sky with an AMRAAM in BVR and be written out as "some Flanker" is quite funny.
@@namelessmidnight Well I believe they will let some crazy good pilot to fly it. Testing missions are no joke. I really doubt they will expose it too much at risk.
Code named Ferken, cause its Ferken weird lookin lol
Thought this was going to be a dogfight video but i got completely mesmerized by the document
Awesome lil doc GS, really enjoyed that! Great work!
This has been by favorite airframe for like 2 and a half decades. Its just so unique. Shame they only built the one.
The golden eagle is a very nice aircraft one of my favorite sukhoi for sure. thanks for the great info GS.
Your documentaries are amazing, and this is maybe one of the best looking planes. Thank you very much!
It’s always interesting to see some of the more esoteric designs in the aviation industry.
Aweome vid mate, love the info part of your channel.
Saw the x29 in popular mechanics way back. Blew my mind.
I really enjoy this format of informative videos !
You really do cover a large spectrum of fighter jets videos !
I saw that special bird. At the MAKS-2019 airshow. In static display. Not far away from the MiG-1.44 prototype. Both was in good condition. And I saw the flight of the Su-57 and Su-35S. Both of them was really impressive. But for me is the most interesting flight was the TVC dogfight demo which was presented with 2 Su-30SMs. The pilots were Vyacheslav and Evgeny Averyanov (fater and son).
top sekrit dokumants
You forgot to mention the Conquest X30. 😮
That aside, I enjoyed this video. It was a nice change of pace.
Excellent video my man! Love to see more of this stuff.
Loving this new format of video excellent production as always :)
The Berkut is one of my favorite ASF's that never made just like the YF-23 Blackwidow II. I bet most people dont even know what the Blackwidow 1 is.
..I'll wait...
The benefits of flight performance begs for a return to variable geometry examining forward swept at subsonic for maneuverability and backwards swept to increase velocity at supersonic.
Now imagine this aircraft or something like it that had variable geometry wings that swung both directions. Swing rearward for speed, and swing forward for slower speed dog fighting situations and throw in thrust vectoring. Imagine trying to dog fight against that.
Imagine it breaking at the most inopportune moment!
You can see that in Yukikaze..her later 'Maeve' form (FFR-41 MR) is everything you describe and more..
Enjoy.
Love these documentaries you put out. Keep up the great content!
I wish forward swept wings were more practical for use in the real world because they look so damn cool
G'day. Awesome info mate. What a boss of an aircraft. On my top 5 of aircraft ever built and tested. Thankyou for taking the time for the research. You've done a great job and would love to see more
Damn, that was good!!! You're a serious and growing guy!
Thanks!
Thank you very much.
Very educational and entertaining
Love this type of videos from your channel
Excellent video, thanks for this!
DAMN, that aerial maneuver starting at 6:54 was amazing! G/S, when can we see you perform this maneuver in one of your videos? 😁
Sexiest aircraft ever made in my opinion. Just purely based on looks alone and no other factors I find it the most beautiful plane ever made.
Absolutely loved the video, I'd like to see more of this type of content... Amazing quality, man!
Love the channel, thoroughly enjoyed the short documentary.
It's still in Zhukovsky. You can find it with apple/google maps with satellite view. It is parked next to another secret project vehicle, the Sukhoi S-70 UAV demonstrator.
Nice new video style, I enjoyed this. I would have liked some performance comparisons as well, your the guy who knows all the different air frames so well!
Wild looking design 😮
Awesome stuff my dude, I love when you get all docu on us, keep up the good work.
I always loved this plane and its design
You have a knack for doing these short docs, I'd even encourage you to lengthen them. Good video!
Such a cool looking aircraft. Had a die-cast one as a kid.
Kinda liking the "documentary" format. Well done.
Now get your butt back in the cockpit! 😂
Great insight of this fighter. Thank you
I remember when this came.out, its fundamental, downside was that due to its wing design,.it lacked top speed but had a very stable flight dynamics.
Love this style of video!! Now we need a Su-47 dogfight bandit unknown video to follow this up!
That last bit about the drones... Russia is about to truly become Belka
Su47 will always remind me of the fictional F/A-37
It looks very cool, and like other modern Sukhoi aircraft it's absolutely massive