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  • Опубликовано: 17 июл 2019
  • #DragonBallSuper was a fairly decent series...but #SuperDragonBallHeroes was not. However, after Episode 12, it turned a corner and has made us think. Should we care about this franchise? Might this be the sign of a revival of Cooler in the main timeline? There are lots of questions to be had here! #DragonBallHeroes
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Комментарии • 419

  • @lunamaria8788
    @lunamaria8788 5 лет назад +45

    And yet they didn't show Chi-Chi going Kaioken x20

  • @hunterkeps9058
    @hunterkeps9058 5 лет назад +22

    Seeing as Toyable, someone who made Dragon Ball AF is making Dragon Ball Super, therefore becoming an official staff member to the Dragon Ball team, there's one thing that I want to see from DBH, and one thing alone.
    Super Saiyan 5

    • @xjosephwilliamx9076
      @xjosephwilliamx9076 5 лет назад +3

      YES!

    • @75JUNAKI
      @75JUNAKI 3 года назад

      hunter keps
      I know this comment is from a year ago: there won't be SSj5

    • @MrJay-sk1jo
      @MrJay-sk1jo 3 года назад

      Instead of limit breaker I wished they brought out super saiyan 5

  • @willchalloner6643
    @willchalloner6643 5 лет назад +88

    Can we just talk about the animation on the Goku and Hearts fight
    Thank you Shida

  • @Matt_Underwood
    @Matt_Underwood 5 лет назад +97

    People be like: DBH is solely there for Dragon Ball Fanservice. "Uhm, yeah dumb-dumb, that's the point, it is based on the cardgame and are only meant as promotional material for the game. Of course it is fanservice

    • @viciousbattousai4109
      @viciousbattousai4109 5 лет назад +9

      Lol people act like they dont want fanservice yet they fan boy over most of the fanservice in dragonball super.

    • @mastertucker
      @mastertucker 5 лет назад +1

      @@viciousbattousai4109
      Because a lot of the fanservice in Super "especially the designs of the forms" make sense. Super went out of it's way to expand the universe and make up new concepts with it's fanservice. Super isn't throwing SSJ3 and 4 on literally every Saiyan ever like the worst fanfics out there. That's the difference.

    • @mastertucker
      @mastertucker 5 лет назад +2

      And yeah, it's fanservice, that's why it shouldn't be so popularized as something that's positive for the series as a whole. Toyble is already enough of a threat to the series.

    • @viciousbattousai4109
      @viciousbattousai4109 5 лет назад +3

      @@mastertucker golden Frieza, rage Trunks, Rose Black berserker Kale, fury Broly.
      What about these forms/transformations make sense none of them even have multipliers and with the bad writing they are just covenant power ups to sell toys and merch.

    • @mastertucker
      @mastertucker 5 лет назад +3

      @@viciousbattousai4109
      I got answers for literally all of those that come from the series
      Lets establish a thing or two
      Toriyama doesn't care AS much about merchandising as the company. GT was done with merchandising in mind that's why everything was so overdesigned. He actually cares about the story, this ain't here in the states where every individual making something ever only cares about the almighty dollar. Big time mangaka with long running stories usually have at least an ounce of passion for their story.
      Also they don't need multipliers to make sense they just need to be built out of concepts or rules from the series.
      Golden Frieza is perfect for the same reason SSJG is - it's design is exactly how transformations work in Z, no matter what it always goes for the simple. Cooler's 5th form was always dumb and made no sense, if Frieza was to ever have a form further than his final it would have to be simpler as all transformation eventually leans. Toriyama even stated the express reason he chose to design Golden that way was because he couldn't think of any ways to make it even simpler. It's the same reason when an artist passed him the first draft of SSJG and it was bulky with big hair and a cape he said no a made extra work for himself designing SSJG back and forth because that's how transformations work. On top of that this was the first time Frieza ever transformed forward from his natural state (final form) instead of releasing forms he used to take him back. Besides, Frieza is literally the forms guy, if anyone is going to get a new form that isn't a Saiyan form it's gonna be him. Plus as stupid unnaturally powerful as he is, having him train at all is literally bound to give him a new form.
      SSJ Rage is the easiest one, we literally saw step by step what things build up to Rage. He starts the arc showing off he can go SSJ2, and when he fights Vegeta we see he has learned to also go max power/ultra/grade 3 while in SSJ2 (also a big deal we never saw before). Then when he goes Rage he literally does those things to push for God Ki. We see him go bulky on SSJ2 and then put God Ki with it. If you're gonna ask how he learned it, I mean he literally started exclusively meditation and energy control training after telling Vegeta he'd get stronger right after he showed him Blue for the first time, and considering literally Rage and the use of God Ki was the only thing in and out of battle that DIDN'T surprise him - he knew what he was trying to do in that moment, he just had to use his highest form and full power and a motivating push to actually achieve it unlike Goku and Vegeta can just pop it on full regardless of form. It's literally just God Ki on SSJ2 whereas Blue is God Ki on SSJ1. Technically it's multiplier has to be 2x Blue
      Rose - They literally said that it was the exact same thing as Blue just a Kai's God Ki. It doesn't contradict anything and establishes Kai as having a special or more pure form of God Ki which makes sense given that Kai are the only natural born beings in all the universes literally born with God Ki.
      Berserker Kale and Broly? I mean we had so much shown and said about it. We saw her able to master it and condense it like full power SSJ meaning it's not a stacked limit break form like 2 or 3 and that it is a state of 1 (like the ascended forms) and Vegeta called it the truest power of a Saiyan enforcing that fact. We also saw Broly go into grade 3 soon as he hit SSJ (SSJ1 doesn't bulk you up that hard or give you white eyes) and we watched him go right from there up into Berserk showing a clear upgrade from that form. Berserk is the max limit of bulking up from SSJ1. Ascended was simply 100% while in SSJ and Ultra was the whole anime trope of "you surpass your body's limiters for a true 100%" Berserk clearly is the next upgrade to that yet having to break your mind to get it - not to mention every user so far has been explicitly weak minded. There's nothing about the form that didn't make sense.
      Fury Broly? It's literally SSJ4 done right without bad overdone design. People have accepted the idea of using the great ape's power in base form, Toriyama just did that in a sensible way finally.
      Literally all of these things have basis in prior series' they aren't just out of nowhere they all come from somewhere and advance real concepts set up from the series. Heroes just goes 'lawl lets do everything ever' purely for fanservice over any sort of continuity. That's the difference.

  • @braveegg1705
    @braveegg1705 5 лет назад +143

    I care.
    I enjoy it, it's like a fun sidestory.

    • @theonewhowatches869
      @theonewhowatches869 5 лет назад +14

      Same.
      It provides us interesting takes on characters you won't see anywhere else, like Cooler as sort of an anti-hero.

    • @daveweatherillable
      @daveweatherillable 5 лет назад +5

      Agreed 👍

    • @nightmare-vr1ty
      @nightmare-vr1ty 5 лет назад +1

      Amen

    • @shiroshinobi3178
      @shiroshinobi3178 5 лет назад +2

      Yes good show

    • @75JUNAKI
      @75JUNAKI 3 года назад +2

      Brave Egg
      I know this comment is from a year ago: It's not even a side story it's just a promotional anime that's just filled with fanservice and nothing more

  • @God-Level-Threat
    @God-Level-Threat 5 лет назад +27

    Technically Bardock vs Frieza was bad vs worse.

    • @spartanhawk7637
      @spartanhawk7637 5 лет назад +9

      Well... really morally dark grey vs pure evil.

    • @God-Level-Threat
      @God-Level-Threat 5 лет назад +3

      @@spartanhawk7637 yeah but still a refreshing thing to watch after good vs evil so many times.

    • @a.liguria2698
      @a.liguria2698 5 лет назад +1

      @@God-Level-Threat
      shame that the - threw bleach into it... with Bardock new characterization that pushes aside everything that made him black in the first place.

  • @metalc.s3170
    @metalc.s3170 5 лет назад +36

    If only they could do what the transformers G1 cartoon did. Advertise toys while making the show good and keep continuity

    • @zzskyninjazz1821
      @zzskyninjazz1821 5 лет назад +4

      Wait original? That was terrible

    • @metalc.s3170
      @metalc.s3170 5 лет назад +8

      zZSkyNinjaZz @ Transformers G1 wasn’t terrible. Yes it got ridiculous at times. But that just added to the entertainment

    • @mastertucker
      @mastertucker 5 лет назад +1

      Heroes could never keep continuity. It's garbage

    • @chishnfips6017
      @chishnfips6017 4 года назад

      Like Ninjago

  • @goldenyak629
    @goldenyak629 5 лет назад +4

    "Two evil factions that not only fight against our heroes, but also fight between themselves."
    Moro vs. the Freeza Force, please!

  • @thebeatable2252
    @thebeatable2252 5 лет назад +18

    ok Super dragon ball heroes episode 13's animation is AWESOME,that much is pretty undeniable.

  • @timephire
    @timephire 5 лет назад +8

    No no no MasakoX, We need a Tag Team Match. The Cold Brothers vs. The Super Saiyans! All out battle; Super fighters never rest!

  • @mcurran6505
    @mcurran6505 5 лет назад +14

    Dragon Ball Heroes is in a way something that was created for the lifelong fans of the series, but when this anime came out with the first episode featuring SSJ Blue Goku vs SSJ4 Goku it was good at first but then a few episodes later I think it just went over the top and became unnoticeable. But when I heard about the reaction of Episode 12 it peeks my interest.

    • @graviton6436
      @graviton6436 5 лет назад

      Xeno ssj4

    • @mastertucker
      @mastertucker 5 лет назад +3

      I dont get how fans can like it when all they pump out is bad fanfic concepts. Its fun to look and laugh at for like two seconds, "haha they have SSJ forms cool" before going "nah yeah that's awful plot how funny". Yet some people take it seriously and say things like they want Cooler in canon, when the idea of Frieza's extended family has always been one of the dumbest things out there. Let alone the stupid use of hypothetical forms on everyone. Even their what ifs aren't written well.

  • @Darthvegeta8000
    @Darthvegeta8000 5 лет назад +3

    I'd love to get Cooler to be reintroduced. Both Battlemode and Android. My favourite DB villain. It would be cool if he were integrated in the canon in some form or another. Even if he's say no longer brother but just another Frieza race character from a universe or timeline out there.

  • @ghostkaiser1716
    @ghostkaiser1716 5 лет назад +8

    I'm not really into Dragonball Heroes, but I can appreciate the attempts that the Dragon Room put into their work.

  • @pixiebubbles2628
    @pixiebubbles2628 5 лет назад +2

    What if Radiz went with Goku to Earth as young children? What if Krillin was a girl? Or if Bulma was a boy? What if Gohan had a twin brother or sister? Or if Gohan was a girl? What if Goku landed in another country?

  • @dragonbird1283
    @dragonbird1283 5 лет назад +86

    MasakoX: I know not many care about DBH
    Me: Wait, really?
    Edit: I originally wanted to say "I care" but i'm not evryone.

    • @pawelmatal9563
      @pawelmatal9563 5 лет назад +3

      I care about SDBH

    • @dragonbird1283
      @dragonbird1283 5 лет назад +1

      @@pawelmatal9563 Same lmao

    • @dragonbird1283
      @dragonbird1283 5 лет назад +1

      @rai araujo I still watch it since i can give a look due to the fact that it is just a under 10 minutes.

    • @slinux8420
      @slinux8420 5 лет назад +2

      @@dragonbird1283 i enjoyed it

    • @dragonbird1283
      @dragonbird1283 5 лет назад

      @rai araujo It's ok.

  • @cavaleirot
    @cavaleirot 5 лет назад +1

    One thing I find very funny in Heroes Dragon Balls and that the producers and writers have creative freedom to put what they want, this can be something very good if well taken advantage of. DBH can be an input to adapt Alternative Universes and get excellent ideas from other writers, and even fans and adapt these good things to TV and if it is really good to add to the canonical material.

  • @lordseelenfresserdemonking1168
    @lordseelenfresserdemonking1168 5 лет назад +9

    Im still waiting for cell to appear

  • @OurKindofEntertainment
    @OurKindofEntertainment 5 лет назад +7

    I'd love for Bojack to get a "reboot" I think he's an underrated movie villain.

  • @XIIMark
    @XIIMark 5 лет назад +2

    I always liked Cooler, he's so underrated, I always used to use him in Budokai Tenkaichi, I felt so cool surprising people and winning with him xD

  • @cameronb7161
    @cameronb7161 5 лет назад +3

    The last episode actually had a REALLY good animated fight between Goku and Hearts.

  • @DurtyDan
    @DurtyDan 5 лет назад +3

    I'd love to support the series in the future but as long as it's with FUNimation here in the west I can't.

  • @13samikaze
    @13samikaze 5 лет назад +2

    I really want a Cooler reboot. make him the disowned and banished son of King Cold, make him a guy who is brother is terribly afraid of. imagine that scenario, Frieza, swallowing his pride and going to Goku and Vegeta for help. Imagine if he got a "Silver" form to both rival Frieza's golden form and also a be a nod to his Metal Cooler form from the second movie. if done right he can become the most deadly villain of the franchise and give Frieza a reason to become not a complete good guy but perhaps an anti hero. the possibilities are endless.

    • @tweso1499
      @tweso1499 5 лет назад

      Sam heness That could actually work.

  • @joribremer5260
    @joribremer5260 5 лет назад +15

    Look its the Legendary Ultra MegaSupersaiyan god Supersaiyan supersaiyan god 2.5 !

  • @anotherrandommegaman2345
    @anotherrandommegaman2345 5 лет назад +1

    This reminds me of what Star Wars is doing with their Legends characters/events. Basically taking old non canon stuff and bringing over to canon, but with new elements.
    If I ever wanted to see Cooler again, I feel like having him as another universe counterpart to Frieza/Frost or maybe King Cold. It'd give us an excuse to see more of the other universes. Perhaps he conquered stuff like Frieza until the God of Destruction of that universe reigned him in. Cooler could be a calculating villain pretending to be reformed. Think Frieza combined with Frost and a bit of Zamasu. He could even oddly relate to Goku in that he wants to be free to fight however he pleases.

  • @poulgammel3454
    @poulgammel3454 5 лет назад +12

    Masako: You should care about super dragonball heroes
    Me: no i dont think i will

    • @MasakoX
      @MasakoX  5 лет назад +8

      OK, that's fair. :)

    • @sinfularcher141
      @sinfularcher141 5 лет назад

      I was interested till found out Beat and Note wasn't in it. Which automatically shut it down for me.

    • @shadowwolf1762
      @shadowwolf1762 5 лет назад

      For me it was too disjointed. I agree with I like memes.

  • @kylenightshade7484
    @kylenightshade7484 5 лет назад +1

    I love heroes. It would be amazing if they could incorporate alot of the characters and ideas into the anime. The way dragonball is set up right now we can have New stuff for the next twenty years.

  • @viciousbattousai4109
    @viciousbattousai4109 5 лет назад +1

    I been saying the same thing. If they had full length episodes i think sdbh would be better received. I loved seeing Cooler, ss4 Goku, and the new characters and i would love to see more old and new characters. Sdbh is wacky but still alot better than no db at all.

  • @jetstreamjackie3437
    @jetstreamjackie3437 4 года назад +1

    Hearts having Dio’s voice gives me big Billy Zane energy.
    KINGDOM HEARTS! FILLL ME WITH THE POWER OF DARKNESSSS

  • @indominusolympus8802
    @indominusolympus8802 5 лет назад +1

    I want to see how Toriyama and Toyotaro would adapt hearts into canon. It'd be interesting to see Frieza, Hearts, and a couple others go after Zeno and end up fighting among themselves.

  • @cooler1679
    @cooler1679 5 лет назад +2

    8:24
    I too want to see Cooler make it into the cannon. But I don't think making another villain like Frieza is the way to go. Now what Akira Toriama sued do, is put Cooler in the anti hero role (Red Hood) to Frieza's villain role (Joker). And this has a lot of opritunatie's to show off. Plus they don't need to change a lot of thing's about him. Just change his morality to semi good.
    1: Making Cooler NOT a copy of Frieza.
    2: Cooler gets to be his own person.
    3: This would show that not all of Frieza's race are evil. But at the same time, not souley good.
    4: MARKETING!
    5: Cooler is a popular character.
    6: Cooler mite get used in future Dragon Ball media.
    7: Golden Cooler.

  • @master10999
    @master10999 5 лет назад +5

    only started watching heroes because of Cooler my favorite movie character after Broly they need to bring Cooler into the main series

  • @LeagueRocker
    @LeagueRocker 5 лет назад +4

    Well if they ever make an English dub of Super Dragon Ball Heroes for some reason, there is a great translation of the theme song out there.

    • @nightwalker174
      @nightwalker174 5 лет назад +2

      Bass.EXE no more translations
      They're horrible.
      Especially ultimate battle

    • @tweso1499
      @tweso1499 5 лет назад +1

      Lord Omega Yeah, the Ultimate Battle English Dub honestly not only disappointed me, but made me cringe during (autonomous🙄) Ultra Instinct Goku fights, instead of being somewhat amped up.
      Other than that though, Eng Dub has some positives ( *TIMES TEEEEEEEEEEEEENNNN* ).

    • @mikelelele7112
      @mikelelele7112 5 лет назад +1

      @@tweso1499 Yeah, that and "I WILL NOT LET YOU DESTROY MY WORLD" is also like a 1000 times better than the japanese original

    • @LeagueRocker
      @LeagueRocker 5 лет назад

      @@nightwalker174 So about this, I get the Ultimate Battle dub sucked. But I was just trying to make a callback to the Super Dragon Ball Heroes cover Masako did with Mark and Megami33 a few months back. People seemed to genuinely like their translation.

    • @nightwalker174
      @nightwalker174 5 лет назад

      Bass.EXE yeah, but neither fit the amped up tone

  • @TVthePunisher
    @TVthePunisher 5 лет назад +2

    Heroes is probably best to watch after it has finished releasing episodes. Someone can then edit them all together to get anime episode length (so I guess 3 at a time) and you’ll have a season of an anime by the end.

  • @goldenhawk18550
    @goldenhawk18550 5 лет назад +5

    Wait.. what about a King Cold & Frieza movie??? Would that work with a DBS: Cooler or would it be a seprate movie

    • @lefrance6414
      @lefrance6414 5 лет назад

      the cooler movie can maybe expand on them and give us a taste of the relationship that they have with each other

    • @goldenhawk18550
      @goldenhawk18550 5 лет назад

      @@lefrance6414 Thats what im hoping for

  • @alcatrazvongola
    @alcatrazvongola 5 лет назад

    It was really cool to see 17 and Piccolo team up in the most recent episodes. That was something that I wanted to see in the ToP.

  • @Tascor1155
    @Tascor1155 5 лет назад +3

    Well i mean we thought Fu was going to be the main villian
    BUT IT WAS I DIO!!

  • @shiroshinobi3178
    @shiroshinobi3178 5 лет назад +2

    Cooler must fuse with Freiza with the golden form against another fusion it would please me greatly a real fusion battle

  • @TheSaul70
    @TheSaul70 5 лет назад +11

    Why should I watch an 8 minute commercial to sell cards?

    • @cristianalvarado2753
      @cristianalvarado2753 5 лет назад +1

      a japanese commercial too ....

    • @Michael-bn1oi
      @Michael-bn1oi 5 лет назад +3

      I mean, Transformers was a 22 minute commercial to sell toys and is much beloved.

    • @MillerMakes
      @MillerMakes 5 лет назад

      I mean if you like dragonball it's a silly thing to take up 10 minutes but you shouldn't do anything you don't like

    • @raiguy9424
      @raiguy9424 5 лет назад +3

      Michael Law But that at least has a good story and lore though

    • @bandabanana4939
      @bandabanana4939 4 года назад

      Atleast it actually sells something and entertaining?

  • @beosor4234
    @beosor4234 5 лет назад +4

    I think Toei should make an full on Anime out of your Dragonball R&R series ^^

  • @markmorales7958
    @markmorales7958 5 лет назад

    It TRULY is a rare occasion to find a series where you get to watch two or more heartless villains trying to one up each other with near similar goals in mind Masako...
    But I’m interested to see how it plays out..!

  • @sadies1913
    @sadies1913 5 лет назад +3

    you should watch episode 13 right away! It is so good and i'm someone who isn't the biggest fan of heroes

  • @kuramakitsune16
    @kuramakitsune16 5 лет назад

    When factions were mentioned it made me think of how chaotic the namekian saga would have been if cooler and his armored squadron had been there as well.

  • @Pastry656
    @Pastry656 5 лет назад +1

    Hopefully it reveals why Frieza hates Saiyans!
    I doubt it, but that would be a nice plot or something somehow.
    I liked the boring Tuffles. c:

  • @Sonickeyblade00
    @Sonickeyblade00 4 года назад +1

    Ancient Saiyan? Hearing that reminds me of Shallot and the Saiyan in Red, both from Dragonball Legends.

  • @nexusshark
    @nexusshark 5 лет назад

    I loved the Cooler vs Camba fight and I was sooo rooting for Cooler. He was cooler than ever.

  • @GoldStorm07
    @GoldStorm07 5 лет назад

    I do think that Yamoshi will eventually be used, but it'll be a very tricky implementation. Yamoshi represents some of the last unexplored lore from the original manga story, and as such could injure the impact of some of that story if his use in a future story falls flat. On the other hand, he could potentially make a perfect counterpart to Goku and Vegeta if his character is well-written and he makes a good first impression.

  • @JubeiKibagamiFez
    @JubeiKibagamiFez 5 лет назад

    Having Yamoshi coming back would be the one, decisive thing that pulls me back to DBS. I really got burnt out with the Battle Royale.

  • @jacksonbarrington2234
    @jacksonbarrington2234 5 лет назад +5

    ss4 Vegito's design was so sad to me considering how different and interesting ss4 Gogeta's was, and he's STUCK with the same outfit! So they had less to work with!

    • @justsomesmoldemoninabox5146
      @justsomesmoldemoninabox5146 5 лет назад +2

      That always bugged me. You'd think he would have the same Gogeta colors at least.....

    • @Jaquan018
      @Jaquan018 5 лет назад

      @@justsomesmoldemoninabox5146 Yeah Gogeta basically broke everything we knew about regular fusion without any consistency. So far we knew that it basically mixes traits from both fighters and suddenly SSJ4 Gogeta went... Red Hair (where both fusees were black haired) and brown fur. Like How?

  • @andrewcingle833
    @andrewcingle833 5 лет назад +1

    I want a semi good cooler, kinda like an anti hero. He is on the good guys side but not by choice. Kinda opposite of your idea of freiza joining good guys to fight cooler. Frieza is too good as a bad guy.

  • @chibimitzi2404
    @chibimitzi2404 5 лет назад +1

    Potentially interesting future plot kinda inspired by SDBH, but more grounded in the actual series:There are now a lot more more mortals are aware of the Omni Kings because of the Tournament of Power. I'm guessing that Freiza wasn't the only one who found them "vexing" (lets face it, kids with absolute power are actually terrifying). As such, it would be great to have a "long-con" kind of overarching plot where mortals and gods across the different universes start working together to get rid of the Zenos one way or another and then deal with the fallout whether the plan succeeds or fails. This gives us ample opportunity to revisit some of the more interesting characters from the Tournament of Power and see how people decide which side they're on (and quite possibly switching sides depending on the actions of others down the road).

  • @altreon3608
    @altreon3608 5 лет назад +2

    high def super saiyan 4. that is all
    edit: i would love to see cooler vs broly in the next movie if the next movie will involve cooler

  • @coldsnap222
    @coldsnap222 5 лет назад

    I'm finding myself watching and enjoying the later episodes cause the animation's improved a bit

  • @-Genki
    @-Genki 5 лет назад +1

    12:18 their name is Pepsi Man

  • @andrewgarrett1356
    @andrewgarrett1356 5 лет назад

    I'm all for a Dragon Ball Super: Cooler movie, and if they could find some way to introduce Bojack and the Galaxy Soldiers, and maybe even Turles, that would be even better. As for the idea of evil Saiyan factions at war with each other as well as the main cast of characters, I'm completely sold on this, and I want, nay, NEED to see this happen! Although I think it goes without saying that seeing pure evil Super Saiyans or brand new transformations unique only to these evil Saiyans would be awesome, I kind of want to see a return to the Saiyans of old. Cruel, brutal Saiyans who only rely on the powers of their base forms just seems really cool to me. I know transformations are pretty much a staple of the series, but I think that having strong, ordinary Saiyans who possess enough power to solo Goku and Vegeta, at least in the beginning, would be interesting to see, and it could breathe new life into the old school concepts of Dragonball. Villains who use their wits and their own unique techniques in combination with their combat experience would serve to mirror what Goku and the original cast of characters were all about back in the days before transformations and massive ki blasts. However, as I stated before, transformations and Dragonball go hand and hand nowadays, so if this evil Saiyan factions thing becomes a reality, I could see each faction having its own unique transformation. Having said that, I think there should only be two factions, because introducing more than two new transformations at a time might be overly ambitious.

  • @superexclusive452
    @superexclusive452 5 лет назад +12

    You should only care about SDBH from episode 11 onwards...cause that’s when it started becoming almost decent

  • @joemama0619
    @joemama0619 5 лет назад +28

    I only care Hearts in Super Dragon Ball Heroes because he is DIO

  • @MANOFGOD9000
    @MANOFGOD9000 5 лет назад

    It would be neat to see Cooler like Magneto. He has his own agenda apart from Frieza. He'll do anything to accomplish it. He switches sides as it benefits him.

  • @guylabayen1677
    @guylabayen1677 5 лет назад

    Some other evil vs. evil moments include Vegeta vs. any of Frieza's minions, as well as Androids 16/17/18 vs. Cell.

  • @samko0802
    @samko0802 5 лет назад +1

    anyone else remember the whole dragonball hoshi thing?

  • @DasMuse
    @DasMuse 5 лет назад

    the SDBH anime has been amazing, i'm just waiting for it to be picked up for a full show like you stated. I know the time patrol works in ways that make the out of timeline people involved forget about the experience, but I'd still like some of this glorious chaos to spill over into regular anime canon.

  • @Sealhunt
    @Sealhunt 5 лет назад

    If the franchise is making all their old movie villians canon by giving them updated movies, then please, absolutely do Cooler and the rest! That would be so awesome!

  • @aquelgamermexicano
    @aquelgamermexicano 5 лет назад +1

    Uuum, unless you mean in this animated series, THERE is a manga for Héroes, it even has a more extended battle between SSJ4 Vs. Blue Gokus

  • @Ristwach
    @Ristwach 5 лет назад

    SDBH's quality is all over the place, but that Naotoshi Shida cut from Episode 13 was jaw-dropping amazing!!

  • @daveweatherillable
    @daveweatherillable 5 лет назад

    I enjoy watching it as its simply different to the norm episode 13 was really really good and the story of taking down the omni kings is quite interesting quite looking forward to see how it goes hopefully the time patrol joins in would be cool to see them all join together for a big chaotic fight

  • @tjzero0008
    @tjzero0008 5 лет назад

    Is so funny how i just watched heroes 1 thru 13 today and then see this video, I've watched heroes before but every time i finally realize a new episode is out i just watch the whole sha-bang all over again sooo i can remember, kinda like when u come out with a new what if episode i try to watch the whole what if over to keep it fresh in my brain

  • @MasterOfBasara
    @MasterOfBasara 5 лет назад

    Honestly, I assumed this video would be more about episode 13 than anything else. Surprised that it was episode 12 that really sparked this discussion.

  • @odin-gamingandwrestling7141
    @odin-gamingandwrestling7141 5 лет назад

    It's like a new non-canon parallel universe with way too many cool potential fights.

  • @LemonsCure
    @LemonsCure 5 лет назад

    11:01 Shikamaru says hi

  • @SomeRandomJackAss
    @SomeRandomJackAss 5 лет назад

    I try not to miss an episode of SDBH because it's mindless fun, sometimes the fights even look really good, and it's not much of a time-sink.
    I really hope they bring Cooler into whatever they do next with the mainline series. Cooler is one of the best villains in DB, imo. Imagine if Frieza wasn't so far up his own ass that you could outsmart him. It's terrifying!

  • @Stellerman7
    @Stellerman7 5 лет назад +1

    I'm almost certain that Cooler is getting canonized like Broly in the near future.

    • @CrystalGreymon
      @CrystalGreymon 5 лет назад

      I'm hoping his awesome form does too. It's way too cool looking to be redesigned.

    • @lytnx5455
      @lytnx5455 5 лет назад

      Yes.

  • @robertbartley2409
    @robertbartley2409 5 лет назад +19

    I don't care about goku and vegeta voice actors anymore

    • @Tabletop-Newtype
      @Tabletop-Newtype 5 лет назад +2

      Are you referring to the funimation dub?

    • @robertbartley2409
      @robertbartley2409 5 лет назад +1

      @@Tabletop-Newtype Sean and Chris

    • @Tabletop-Newtype
      @Tabletop-Newtype 5 лет назад +4

      @@robertbartley2409 i agree with you. The whole situation is totally Effed Up

    • @zzskyninjazz1821
      @zzskyninjazz1821 5 лет назад

      Why

    • @nightwalker174
      @nightwalker174 5 лет назад +2

      Robert Bartley
      They are cowards. Vile human beings. Same with Monica.

  • @whomadethisandwhy301
    @whomadethisandwhy301 5 лет назад

    Masako coughing GT is gold in my book

  • @SinHurr
    @SinHurr 5 лет назад

    I say it every single time the topic of bringing back old villains come up, but: Give me Mr. Perfect Platinum Cell or give me death. I guess I'd also accept Cooler learning to harness god ki in his 5th form or w/e too.

  • @Bt3615
    @Bt3615 5 лет назад +1

    They simply saw how well Fate GO is doing even in the USA and they want to see if they can do the same. The main difference is that Heroes totally lack any form of cohesion or long term appeal.

  • @Outcrow
    @Outcrow 5 лет назад

    I’m not sure what to make of new characters, but it’s good to see Cooler again. I hope Metal Cooler can turn into fifth form so he would look like Shredder.

  • @haibbb6143
    @haibbb6143 5 лет назад

    i watched the series because i cant wait for the new series any longer and i desperately need more db episode...

  • @afromania2985
    @afromania2985 5 лет назад +1

    I'd prefer if Cooler was more efficient than Freeza when it comes to ruling their respective forces, in a way that challenges Freeza. Maybe Cooler could undermine Freeza by offering security to any of Freeza's men who wish to switch sides.

    • @raylenn4444
      @raylenn4444 3 года назад

      or maybe cooler could be an outcast of the family, like a bitter underdog who trained in secret to get his revenge on frieza, so the 2 brothers are permanently stuck fighting one another like ragna & jin in blazblue...

  • @malakai_adam
    @malakai_adam 3 года назад

    Totally agree; this isn't a good example but it's a great idea. I hope we see more of this kind of show, but I hope they evolve the formula properly so it can serve as a testing grounds for the main timeline the way elseworlds and what ifs do for superhero comics.

  • @Toddy-Terence
    @Toddy-Terence 5 лет назад +3

    Although I don't care about SDBH, It's only good for concept designs

    • @cavaleirot
      @cavaleirot 5 лет назад +1

      One thing I find very funny in Heroes Dragon Balls and that the producers and writers have creative freedom to put what they want, this can be something very good if well taken advantage of. DBH can be an input to adapt Alternative Universes and get excellent ideas from other writers, and even fans and adapt these good things to TV and if it is really good to add to the canonical material.

  • @SirAsdf
    @SirAsdf 5 лет назад

    I remember when the trailers were coming out and it was basically if DBZ was an Isekai anime

  • @deadpool3982
    @deadpool3982 5 лет назад

    Ooh a civil war between brothers that threatens earth....I’m in

  • @andresmarrero8666
    @andresmarrero8666 5 лет назад

    So could they bring back all the elements from the original dragon ball that mysteriously disappeared at the start of Z? Okay that picture with the ice girl seems cool, can we have her in the main show and as an ally?

  • @theCidisIn
    @theCidisIn 5 лет назад

    Dude I love super Dragon ball heroes. It may be all over the place, but it is only like seven or so minutes so it's not like it's saying any real time. I think it's fun to look in on these crazy stories. Also, the ads Masako!

  • @ianr.navahuber2195
    @ianr.navahuber2195 5 лет назад

    i wish Hearts and and his "gang of alternates" could become canon characters. hearts is kinda charismathic

  • @anotherplayer1546
    @anotherplayer1546 5 лет назад

    Making movie villains part of the main story means retcons, and I think we've gotten enough of those already.

  • @mattt5105
    @mattt5105 5 лет назад

    I watched the first two episodes of Super DBH when it first came out about a year ago, but then I stopped watching it. But now, I may start watching it again

  • @CrystalGreymon
    @CrystalGreymon 5 лет назад

    Yeah... I keep forgetting about Heroes honestly.
    I'm never really alerted when it comes out and honestly, that's a little annoying when you wanna know but you forget because you're doing other things and only remember on the off-chance or because someone's talking about it, case in point. I'm like... 5-6 episodes behind!

  • @Jrockk999
    @Jrockk999 5 лет назад

    There are things in heroes and xenoverse that I think could be good ideas moving forward for Dragon Ball, but at the same time it feels like heroes doesn't even know where it's going. Honestly I think that Dragon Ball could benefit from a villain team up. We have had villains teams before but never Villain A teaming up with Villain B. Sort of like a Mortal Kombat Deadly Alliance theme.
    Cooler and Cumber are villains I would like have be introduced into the main series. Cooler being worse than Frieza is an interesting idea that would explain on why he isn't even mentioned in Super: Broly. Cumber with the whole ancient evil Saiyan idea is a good one and could have him be disappointed when learning the fate of his people. Could have him try and brainwash Broly to his side seeing the same primal and beastial nature in Broly compared to Vegeta and Goku.

  • @beastgamer5712
    @beastgamer5712 5 лет назад +2

    Plz do part 3 for if ranch went to the past.

  • @MaouNemesis
    @MaouNemesis 5 лет назад

    Dragon Ball Yamoshi movie? Yes, please! Let's make that someone wished for him to be revived, but the wish took very long time and now he's revived, but along with something else.

  • @BensyBens
    @BensyBens 5 лет назад +1

    Funny
    I think the Dark Demon Realm, Dark Empire & Dark King Mechikabura Sagas are way better than the Prison Planet Saga
    The manga of heroes actually really good they give us all the fan service we got:
    Cell X outside of dragon ball online
    Adult Xeno Gotenks
    Super Saiyan 4 Vegetto
    Xeno Pan
    Kid Buu Absorbs Janemba & Dark Demon God Dabura
    Xeno King Vegetta

  • @brandonjames6615
    @brandonjames6615 5 лет назад

    I like that idea too, that should have been raditz from another timeline.

  • @ardeththewanderer5334
    @ardeththewanderer5334 5 лет назад +3

    Would not mind a REAL Heroes spinoff anime.
    Would be cool to see someone other than Goku in the spotlight *Cough* CellSaga *Cough* and have a whole new set of characters that could not happen in the main story, and bring in the Time Patrol

    • @cavaleirot
      @cavaleirot 5 лет назад +2

      One thing I find very funny in Heroes Dragon Balls and that the producers and writers have creative freedom to put what they want, this can be something very good if well taken advantage of. DBH can be an input to adapt Alternative Universes and get excellent ideas from other writers, and even fans and adapt these good things to TV and if it is really good to add to the canonical material.

    • @Bornheck
      @Bornheck 5 лет назад

      tulio pereira You just gonna copy and paste that on every comment?

  • @MaliceTheCommentator
    @MaliceTheCommentator 5 лет назад +3

    I feel like the reason Cumba failed is because they basically tried to remake Broly and just renamed him.

  • @matti2b431
    @matti2b431 5 лет назад

    I love dragon ball heroes I have been waiting 9 years for this game to come to Uk so I am satisfied. Good job Masako keep up the good work 👍👍👍

  • @gabrielchastain6091
    @gabrielchastain6091 5 лет назад

    9:38 WOAH!!! HEY WHAT DID GT DO NOW

  • @gamemaniack
    @gamemaniack 5 лет назад +1

    cooler being in a new movie...you know mainly because of teh meta cooler movie i feel like the beg geti star needs to be part of his story some how.
    like idk maybe e onlt trusts him self and he makes a army of him self?
    or do what SDBH did and he gets destroyed comes back at meta cooler and gose golden. being like a cyborg.

    • @Zelodiac7
      @Zelodiac7 5 лет назад

      gamemaniack I feel like having a metal cooler army as his henchmen would be nice as long as we get golden 5th form at some point

  • @bigben182
    @bigben182 5 лет назад

    Imagine if isekai Yamcha became a Time patroller.

  • @samnnz8360
    @samnnz8360 5 лет назад

    In one of those episodes. The vegeta from the main timeline recognizes cooler. Would that some sort of confirmation that he does exist in the main timeline?

  • @MikePSU
    @MikePSU 5 лет назад

    It feels less like "Fanservice" and more like "fanfiction"