for me razer is wack, I got the first deathadder before then after 1 year left click issue is evident then I bought roccat and Logitech mice and used them for more than 2 years yet it is still going strong
i used to own a logitech g602, thinking that i would use all 6 side buttons and ended using only half of them. Recently bought the rival 650 wireless for 83$ in black friday and turned out to be perfect for me i love every aspect of it. would recommend everytime
@@Blyyyyyy im sorry i don’t have that mouse, however, many people say that this one is one of the best mouse ever built In like 2019-2020, and they have pretty much the same sensor except steel series modified it and it also has an additional sensor, I do have the g203 and I prefer the rival 600
Wtf how do u not have more suscribers. This is one of the best reviews. I was looking for which one of these mice to get and I think I'm gonna go with the Logitech 502 hero. I searched it up and many people have said about the grips on the steelseries r bad. Thx for the vid
I had the steel series in my cart and I think I'm going with the g502 hero instead. Zowie is supposed to be great for FPS, which is mostly what I play, but the g502 seems much more versatile
Just purchased the Rival 600 after 2 years of missed clicks from the Corsair M65. I absolutely love the feel and response. I love Steelseries products!
This was interesting, I'm a g502 owner and the mouse feels perfect for claw grip & my hands look a fair bit bigger than yours :/ the middle of my palm doesnt touch the mouse at all when gripping claw. I believe the g502 would be worse for smaller hands /w palm grip, rather than large hands using claw. They are both fairly large mice though so I guess its just subjective.. Hmm.. Great vid quality btw! Keep it up
c'mon man?!its so infuriating when at the end you said ''you pick'' .i knew that before i even watched this. but seriously now.great wideo.i was going to choose the rival 600,but after i chose G502 :)
The steelseries button is meant to be a macro button. There is no default setting for it. You can set it to a macro or a keyboard key, but it has no function. It is disabled by default. I have a little problem with the middle side button rattling, but it is still crisp when you press it down. Not as crisp as my old deathadder's, but crisper than the G502's. Also the grips are awesome at their job, dispite what he says. But they do use a weak adhesive. Just super glue it. Why am I writing a review on RUclips and not Amazon lmfao
I just ordered the SS Rival 600 from Amazon, am I fucked because of the far button and the adhesive issue. I bought it because I dislike the G502 Hero, only after 3-4 months it started double clicking. I also have the old G502 first one and it didn't double click till now more than 1-2 years... Also I went for a mice with normal feet which I can use the Lexit Ceramic Mouse Feet and not like the stupid G502 mouse feet. Would you say Razer viper is better compare to Rival 600? because that's the choice I am afraid a bit. I think the Sensor on the 600 is way better than the Razer, and you also say the clicking is so good. so what do we say?
I got a G502 for Christmas and it broke after a couple of days. When I say broke, I mean when I right click, it doesn't always register right away and it randomly releases the click while I'm still holding it down. Seems to be a mechanical problem since I swapped the buttons in the driver software and the left button doesn't exhibit the same behavior. To make matters worse, I got a G413 carbon (a Logitech gaming keyboard) with the mouse - this also started breaking down on me after a week or so. The right side "kickstand" snapped off and the plastic cracked, then one of the buttons came apart. Apart from that, I didn't even like the design and the keys were too small and raised too high. These items were a waste of $150 since they both started having problems before they could even hit the 2 week mark. I had to go back to my Walmart brand mouse and keyboard. What's the point of having a bunch of features if the product is cheaply made and of shitty build quality? Not planning on buying any Logitech peripherals after this.
I have a g502 and I have bigger hands than him and I have no problems with my mouse. I feel it’s very ergonomic and comfortable to grip. I have heals the rival 600 before and I have to say it was underwhelming. I would love to see the next generation of g502 have an even more upgraded sensor, saying I have the hero version I wouldn’t upgrade right away but it would be on my bucket list.
that was best review that i have ever seen ( i have seen a lot believe me) i didn't know which one to buy thank to you i decided which one i will buy (I'm buying rival 600) thanks man i loved your review btw your channel is so underrated i hope one day you will become big youtuber
Nice vid man. Good work. And There's nothing wrong with being different. Get that face up close if u want to be seen and heard. Every one gonna know u for the dude who sit close to the cam but has banging vidz. And you will be successful
u dnt even mention the great infinite scroll wheel feature of the g502.. that was very usefull when video editing or surfing and on some particular games
I've been using g502 for 5 years and i can say that it was a beast but because of my harsh use its cable now has some problems. And if you're playing battle royal or moba or rpg/mmorpg go for it !! i had an accident and couldnt use my lefthand for 3 months and that mouse helped me to play league of legends and even apex... it has so many buttons to help you out in these kind of games
I have both the Rival 600 and the G502 and the R600 wins hands down for me. Far more comfortable and precise. The G502 has an amazing scroll wheel though and more well placed and well sized side buttons, which the R600 lacks, but really this shouldn't be the main consideration when picking a mouse.
Soooo... 2020, should i go for the Rival 600, or the G502 Hero ? I'm really lost atm... Help me ! I feel like I'm mid way between claw et palm grip, and my current mouse is a CM from Master Lite L combo (under 100g so I'm more familiar with lighter mice). I love both designs even though I would say I have a little preference for the Rival 600 since I like when it's sober and not gamer-ish. I play some FPS, MOBAs and WoW. My hands size is about 18cm. I'd rather choose the G502 Hero for the grips and the 3rd thumb button, but I like how the Rival 600's left/right buttons seems to be so satisfying, but I really don't like the grips glue. Any help or tips would be amazing !
Your absolutely right if they fixed that button the sales of 600 or 650 would jump crazy and I would buy 1 my self ASAP but that 1 reason made me go for the g502
I would personally go with cherry switches , both fantastics boards, though Corsair has been in the top rankings of gaming enthusiast peripherals for quite some time , not taking anything away from the gigabyte at all though ,it's fantastic
I prefer the rival 600 having tried both of them because I have bigger hands around 22 cm length .When I hold the g502 I always press the third button by accident because I cant fit my thumb on the space it has so the the steelseries button its at a perfect distance . Measure your hand. If you have smaller hands the choice is G502 if you have bigger hands go for the rival 600 .Thats how I see it .
@@nolan2340 Do your side rgips unstick? I read on forums that a lot of Rival 600 owners have this problem, because of bad glue that is melting under hand temperature. Also i heard that side buttons are very bad and right click is worse than left. Do you have any problem like this? P.S. How much time do you have it?
Lawl Dude why you diside a winner without a real ingame test wich can compares this both best way? To decide wich has the best feeling ingame like DPI, IPS and LOD because the significant diffrent is the sensor ;) not how to grab and wich has best buttons :) this is are things i can accustom with. But a great sensore will give you more skill and advantages in aiming.
Its subjective, if you have hands smaller than 18cms and you like extra buttons, then the G502 is the winner If you have hands over 18cm and are looking for comfort then the Rival is the winner
If u want to play a game which involves only shooting, go for the 600 But , if u want to play games which involve multiple things other than shoot then go for the g502
The layout is nice but the buttons are really slow and also a bit wobbly. Its nice to have a clear sharp click which doesn't need much pressure like logitech
JTheLegend Reminds me of the time I was on the LogitechG website. I tried clicking on a link and all I got was an error 404 page so I’m like: “woah the legendary Logitech G404!”
i solved my problem with the rival's grip. my "pinkie" grip started to move and it was very annoying, the problm was the glue, they used too much glue, the glue heated and that was the problem, i selved it by simply removing some glue under the grip and.
I bought one of the more recent steel series keyboards and the grip for the desk has that garbage adhesive and already fell off. The keyboard is phenomenal and the issue I had was easily fixable but I shouldn’t have had issues in the first place especially after only a few days
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To Razer or not to Razer???
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Not to
Not to
Oh my god ur face is cool
for pubg games what will you recommend
for me razer is wack, I got the first deathadder before then after 1 year left click issue is evident then I bought roccat and Logitech mice and used them for more than 2 years yet it is still going strong
This is like a national geographic documentary wtf
I only use mice that are bathed in milk
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Watson Eatson hahah ur right
;D
Lol
Bro back tf up from your camera your invading my space 😭😂
LMAO
Literally the first thing i said when i clicked on the video was "DAYUM he close as FUCK"
I could see rings in his eyes.
We gotta social distance
Fr bro lmao 😂😂💀
I love how he talks about the mouses like he’s the narrator on planet earth
i used to own a logitech g602, thinking that i would use all 6 side buttons and ended using only half of them. Recently bought the rival 650 wireless for 83$ in black friday and turned out to be perfect for me i love every aspect of it. would recommend everytime
You have 84 subscribes I thought you'd have 100k at minimum *???*
wow! thank you , I pray I get there, in the mean time I will continue bringing the best videos I possibly can
Good job man, look where you are now... but srsly, back away from ur camera.
Wth 130 subs? This is like at least 500k level quality video
Yup didn't realise till i saw some comments, was expecting something over a 100k, subbed right away
i have a rival 600 bur men this is a good good very good review it shows all pros and cons perfectly, nice video
Is it good because I see a lot of bad reviews about
@@Blyyyyyy very good, I’ve been using it since I typed that comment and never had a problem
Oh okay. If you have ever had Logitech G602, which one would you say is better?
@@Blyyyyyy im sorry i don’t have that mouse, however, many people say that this one is one of the best mouse ever built In like 2019-2020, and they have pretty much the same sensor except steel series modified it and it also has an additional sensor, I do have the g203 and I prefer the rival 600
Wait, Wait, Wait, YOU ONLY HAVE 96 SUBSCRIBERS WITH THIS QUALITY ON YOUR VIDEOS?
Now 1k
Now 1.03K
1.5k rn
Wtf how do u not have more suscribers. This is one of the best reviews. I was looking for which one of these mice to get and I think I'm gonna go with the Logitech 502 hero. I searched it up and many people have said about the grips on the steelseries r bad. Thx for the vid
Thank you so much for the great feedback!
New channel so hopefully it will grow and I can continue bringing quality videos!
Yeah u should I have a g502 hero and it is amazing
@New's Pack's na dude the hero is the upgraded version of the proteus spectrum
Heart, honestly the hero isn't much different than the regular 502.
I had the steel series in my cart and I think I'm going with the g502 hero instead. Zowie is supposed to be great for FPS, which is mostly what I play, but the g502 seems much more versatile
Dude, you made the perfect video. Killed it. You totally gave me confidence about what mice I will choose. Thanks and keep up the good work.
Just purchased the Rival 600 after 2 years of missed clicks from the Corsair M65. I absolutely love the feel and response. I love Steelseries products!
I didn’t know if I was watching Planet Earth on Netflix or a mouse review lol, you deserve more subs for sure
The rival 600 is perfect already rocking it
OH MY GOD YOUR VOICE MAKES THIS VIDEO 100X BETTER already love this channel i subbed right away. Amazing comparisons helped me choose the rival
I have huge hands and I had the same problem with my pinky but I adjusted to it and it’s the best mouse I’ve ever used
This was interesting, I'm a g502 owner and the mouse feels perfect for claw grip & my hands look a fair bit bigger than yours :/ the middle of my palm doesnt touch the mouse at all when gripping claw. I believe the g502 would be worse for smaller hands /w palm grip, rather than large hands using claw. They are both fairly large mice though so I guess its just subjective.. Hmm..
Great vid quality btw! Keep it up
c'mon man?!its so infuriating when at the end you said ''you pick'' .i knew that before i even watched this. but seriously now.great wideo.i was going to choose the rival 600,but after i chose G502 :)
I was thinking about getting the rival 600 but the grips sliding off the sides are a big deal breaker for me. good try steel series
I wanted to watch a mouse review not a fucking asmr mouse documentry.
The steelseries button is meant to be a macro button. There is no default setting for it. You can set it to a macro or a keyboard key, but it has no function. It is disabled by default. I have a little problem with the middle side button rattling, but it is still crisp when you press it down. Not as crisp as my old deathadder's, but crisper than the G502's.
Also the grips are awesome at their job, dispite what he says. But they do use a weak adhesive. Just super glue it.
Why am I writing a review on RUclips and not Amazon lmfao
thePCpeasant English please
Copy and paste it
The point is you shouldn't need to superglue the grips together. The adhesive is horrible.
I just ordered the SS Rival 600 from Amazon, am I fucked because of the far button and the adhesive issue. I bought it because I dislike the G502 Hero, only after 3-4 months it started double clicking. I also have the old G502 first one and it didn't double click till now more than 1-2 years... Also I went for a mice with normal feet which I can use the Lexit Ceramic Mouse Feet and not like the stupid G502 mouse feet.
Would you say Razer viper is better compare to Rival 600? because that's the choice I am afraid a bit. I think the Sensor on the 600 is way better than the Razer, and you also say the clicking is so good. so what do we say?
To fix the scroll wheel on the g502 just press one of the buttons on the top
I got a G502 for Christmas and it broke after a couple of days. When I say broke, I mean when I right click, it doesn't always register right away and it randomly releases the click while I'm still holding it down. Seems to be a mechanical problem since I swapped the buttons in the driver software and the left button doesn't exhibit the same behavior.
To make matters worse, I got a G413 carbon (a Logitech gaming keyboard) with the mouse - this also started breaking down on me after a week or so. The right side "kickstand" snapped off and the plastic cracked, then one of the buttons came apart. Apart from that, I didn't even like the design and the keys were too small and raised too high.
These items were a waste of $150 since they both started having problems before they could even hit the 2 week mark. I had to go back to my Walmart brand mouse and keyboard. What's the point of having a bunch of features if the product is cheaply made and of shitty build quality? Not planning on buying any Logitech peripherals after this.
Which cam are you using to shoot?
I have a g502 and I have bigger hands than him and I have no problems with my mouse. I feel it’s very ergonomic and comfortable to grip. I have heals the rival 600 before and I have to say it was underwhelming. I would love to see the next generation of g502 have an even more upgraded sensor, saying I have the hero version I wouldn’t upgrade right away but it would be on my bucket list.
Goddamn amazing review, gave me the exact info I was looking for (thumb buttons). Keep up the good work!
Where did you get that gaming mat from
Rival 600 for the win! Would definitely need to get those grips sorted! Thanks for the dope review Stuff Talk TV!! 💯
love the 600 but i had to return it, too wide for me, went back to g502.
Literally what ive been looking for! Great video and exactly what I needed to hear. Glad to see that someone has the same problem lol
why do you have 200 subs? you deserve more!
like 100,000 subs
this tips helped me out so much! Thank you!
Thank you so much ! I hope the subscriber count builds , and I will continue bringing the best content I possibly can to you guys
your face too close to camera dude its creepy especially when you said "its coming..." with that smile
This is literally the best comparison I’ve ever seen
Thanks so much for this video! I have the g502 and as thinking of switching to the rival 600.
what about battery life and price?
Sounds like shrek is life shrek is love video “bathed in milk”
No he sounds like lordfarquaad
So which ??
that was best review that i have ever seen ( i have seen a lot believe me) i didn't know which one to buy thank to you i decided which one i will buy (I'm buying rival 600) thanks man i loved your review btw your channel is so underrated i hope one day you will become big youtuber
They fixed da grips or u can super glue it
Hello! What do you think would be better for shooters like Overwatch, Rival 600 or Deathadder Elite, if I have hand over 18 centimetres?
Nice vid man. Good work. And There's nothing wrong with being different. Get that face up close if u want to be seen and heard. Every one gonna know u for the dude who sit close to the cam but has banging vidz. And you will be successful
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Lol the introductions were so dramatic. It was like I was watching a movie trailer
idk about you but i cant even macro the top 2 buttons on the g502 apart from using it for a dpi shift
Good stuff by the guy with the 21 cm hands.
u dnt even mention the great infinite scroll wheel feature of the g502.. that was very usefull when video editing or surfing and on some particular games
I've been using g502 for 5 years and i can say that it was a beast but because of my harsh use its cable now has some problems. And if you're playing battle royal or moba or rpg/mmorpg go for it !!
i had an accident and couldnt use my lefthand for 3 months and that mouse helped me to play league of legends and even apex... it has so many buttons to help you out in these kind of games
Top quality video for a such a small channel.
well guys i have the best mouse of all.....
the "STEELTECH600" ikr
Rayhan Conhyea steeltech602 would be better
*6502
STEELTECH g602 aha
Remember us after you start getting 1M subs per day!
What will be good For gigabyte k9 optical or Corsair cherry mechanical keyboard
StuffTalkTV: *The g502 inspired of cold hard steel*
STEEL Series: Am I a joke to you?
I have both the Rival 600 and the G502 and the R600 wins hands down for me. Far more comfortable and precise. The G502 has an amazing scroll wheel though and more well placed and well sized side buttons, which the R600 lacks, but really this shouldn't be the main consideration when picking a mouse.
Dude, your voice is so calm it seems like you overdubbed the video. lol
Soooo... 2020, should i go for the Rival 600, or the G502 Hero ? I'm really lost atm... Help me ! I feel like I'm mid way between claw et palm grip, and my current mouse is a CM from Master Lite L combo (under 100g so I'm more familiar with lighter mice). I love both designs even though I would say I have a little preference for the Rival 600 since I like when it's sober and not gamer-ish. I play some FPS, MOBAs and WoW. My hands size is about 18cm. I'd rather choose the G502 Hero for the grips and the 3rd thumb button, but I like how the Rival 600's left/right buttons seems to be so satisfying, but I really don't like the grips glue. Any help or tips would be amazing !
Loved the start. I felt so calm
79 subs? Great Vid I subbed
thanks for the support! hopefully the sub count will improve
I disagree the g502 works perfectly fine with big hands.
No it doesn't, my hands are 21x10.5cm and I'm going through hell with g502
It's definitely a grip and hand size thing.
@REEL SIXX well, im a palm gripper, im getting corsair ironclaw fod that, the spatha is good but expensive af
@Diamond is it as big as 102 prodigy? i feel comfortable with G102
This is not a hate comment, but how hard are you pulling on those grips to make them fall off lol
Nice video bro ! !
Your absolutely right if they fixed that button the sales of 600 or 650 would jump crazy and I would buy 1 my self ASAP but that 1 reason made me go for the g502
I just got the Gigabyte K9 keyboard and the logitech G502 Hero.
Fire bro!
nice then your a hero!
how is it
What will be good Gigabyte k9 optical or Corsair Strafe cherry.I need help
I would personally go with cherry switches , both fantastics boards, though Corsair has been in the top rankings of gaming enthusiast peripherals for quite some time , not taking anything away from the gigabyte at all though ,it's fantastic
I prefer the rival 600 having tried both of them because I have bigger hands around 22 cm length .When I hold the g502 I always press the third button by accident because I cant fit my thumb on the space it has so the the steelseries button its at a perfect distance . Measure your hand. If you have smaller hands the choice is G502 if you have bigger hands go for the rival 600 .Thats how I see it .
Subbed, great video! I just got a rival 600!
What do you think about it?
Mr.Dominoshko love it! I got it refurbished for 40 on amazon. Works perfect so far
@@nolan2340 Do your side rgips unstick? I read on forums that a lot of Rival 600 owners have this problem, because of bad glue that is melting under hand temperature. Also i heard that side buttons are very bad and right click is worse than left. Do you have any problem like this?
P.S. How much time do you have it?
Ik I’m late but I subbed. Damn the production quality and editing quality is astounding
is rival more smooth?
Someone commented your video on mine. Awesome stuff, keep it up! We should work together sometime
absolutely ! DM me, lets do it
U have any other social media? Insta or Twitter?
Lawl Dude why you diside a winner without a real ingame test wich can compares this both best way? To decide wich has the best feeling ingame like DPI, IPS and LOD because the significant diffrent is the sensor ;) not how to grab and wich has best buttons :) this is are things i can accustom with. But a great sensore will give you more skill and advantages in aiming.
I'm French, I don't have understand who is the winner
Its subjective, if you have hands smaller than 18cms and you like extra buttons, then the G502 is the winner
If you have hands over 18cm and are looking for comfort then the Rival is the winner
Thank you for the information about the g502
@@Stufftalktv you got both so you win!
@@kjotuber2729 literally burst out laughing! Haha
Stop giving up (French war reference)
Haha I was on BBC Earth during quarantine and here come this suggestion, watching for a min and know why lol
If u want to play a game which involves only shooting, go for the 600
But , if u want to play games which involve multiple things other than shoot then go for the g502
The Rival 600 isnt wireless ??
The wireless one is the rival 650
No one gonna talk about how he said that the rival 600 was bathed in milk
New sub.. G502 hero and G402 Hyperion Fury user here.. Logitech mice fo' life!
Is the G502 Good, whats the difference with the SE because i bought it
1:35
They put the g502 in both warm and cold shots when i think thwy wanted to put the steel series
u can now buy a new grip....for 10dolars and its beter than the stock grip....its only for the rival 600 and 650....
can you send me a link i can't find it
The most underated mouse is the rival 500
The layout is nice but the buttons are really slow and also a bit wobbly. Its nice to have a clear sharp click which doesn't need much pressure like logitech
how high were you while making the intro
haha!
Dutch astronaut high
Top tier review btw good video man
i am legit angry that you dont have more subs
Which mouse is bigger? I have small hands and i need small mouse like my old G403 prodigy.
ABIIRA same hear
@@thoamez3151 here*
Just google it
Nice review bro!
Since I'll mostly be playing fps games and have 22cm hands I should probably opt for the Rival, huh?
Yeah, that's probably a wise decision.
This isn't steelseries rival 600... This is rival 650.
It's a rival 600 😂 I just detached the chord. The 650 came out like 4 months after I bought the 600
This guy has 515 subscribes what the actual fuck he deserves way more for this quality of a video!
Damn, so low subs for such an crazy video ? Damn, RUclips not doing you and fair..
Yo bro legit this vid is better than most big you tubers. U deserve to be noticed 😀 keep up the great work!
I got the logitech G666
sounds lit
You meant lucifertech right
LMFAO
If they made that for like a promotion for Doom Eternal, I would buy the hell out of that.
JTheLegend Reminds me of the time I was on the LogitechG website. I tried clicking on a link and all I got was an error 404 page so I’m like: “woah the legendary Logitech G404!”
Nice video ! 😄
Should i get g502?
Amazing video quality ! + 1 sub
Brother you deserve way more subs
i solved my problem with the rival's grip. my "pinkie" grip started to move and it was very annoying, the problm was the glue, they used too much glue, the glue heated and that was the problem, i selved it by simply removing some glue under the grip and.
I bought one of the more recent steel series keyboards and the grip for the desk has that garbage adhesive and already fell off. The keyboard is phenomenal and the issue I had was easily fixable but I shouldn’t have had issues in the first place especially after only a few days
Nice AF video u deserve at least 100k subs 🔥
That intro for the steel series mouse was sus
you deserve a mill followers
Great review. Keep it up. You’ll go far 👌🏻
thank you for the awesome feedback! I truly hope so!
But wow man a great video!!!! Keep up the grind
Very nice work. Useful information since I was looking for this exact comparison.
ThinkinLinc me too