What makes this even more sad is when you consider that it isn’t just Gehrman saying this to the player or vice versa. Most likely, they’re both saying it to each other. The player is trying to free Gehrman from the nightmare, and Gehrman is trying to protect the player from an eternity of pain
"Dear oh dear, what was it? The hunt? The Dream? Or the blood? Oh it doesn't matter." "It always comes down to the hunter's helper to clean up this sort of mess." Tonight Gerhman joins the hunt
Elden Ring: a man and a God, fighting to fix the world Dark Souls: two people in a broken world fighting over nothing Bloodborne: two people in a broken world fighting to save each other Fromsoft can get poetic when they just wanna give us playable art.
@@vince8237 When you travel to the final area, it's a huge time jump. The girl was dead by then, the world was going to end like that anyway, and the painting will eventually have the same fate as Ariendel.
@@MustyHam A painted world eventually has to burn away, it's a cycle, or else the rot takes over and it's an Ariendel part 2. Granted the painter is in a painted world sooooo it might be different?
Only in one ending on the others the hunt just goes on and I've seen some people sugest that when we become great one we take on the job of the Moon presence of killing other great one and the best way to do that is throught the hunt. @@rotanux
I love that the lyrics can be interpreted in two ways. Either its Gehrman begging us to give up so he can save us from this dream, or its the player telling Gehrman that they will end Gehrmans suffering and accept the new role the Moon Prescense will impose upon them in exchange for Gehrmans freedom.
Well no, because the Hunter would have no idea of the Moon Presence existence when fighting Gherman it only shows up after Also it says “Oh, these mysterious nights” the games time span is all in one night Gherman has done this for many nights hence the wording for“I devote my life to sustain the dream” and “these”and “nights”
This fight is gut wrenching from a story perspective Two duty bound hunters fighting tooth and nail for the honor of showing mercy to the other, both willing to keep living in this nightmarish world so the other might find some peace. Just saying these emotional stakes are rare in video game boss fights lol I didn’t feel nearly as emotional parrying the selfish lord gwyn into oblivion
With Gwyn I think he was less motivated by selfishness then he was by fear. He fought tooth and nail to carve out a home for his people against the arch dragons, built a kingdom, got married, had kids, and lead a prosperous kingdom. Then, the dark sign showed up. People started hollowing, including those close to him. He implored the other lord's to look for a solution, and the chaos witches created another problem, the bed of chaos. He chose to link the fire, genuinely trying to save his people, his family, and his friends. It was his last ditch effort to save the world. He couldn't have known about the cyclical nature of the world after all. His sacrifice was misguided heroism.
While I completely agree with you, in Gwyn's defense I don't think you were supposed to feel emotional. Atleast not in terms of the fight itself. All soulsborne games have this long lasting tradition of beating up old men in their dying breathes for whatever reason. Isshin, Vendrick, and ofcourse Gerhman have been all meaningful experiences to our persona nad character, in game and out. But with Gwyn specifically, his experience is... Underwhelming and for good reason. He was meant to be a disappointment. His story legend dictates and represents him as this all powerful and heroic figure that led men, giant, and God alike to salvation and was known for his might and leadership against the battle of the Arch Dragons. He was painted to be this figure of importance. But when we step through those gates within the inner chasms of a molten and rotting desolance of the kiln, all we are met is an empty husk devoid of all meaning, and serves as a lowly cradle to a dying flame. Hollowed out, broken, covered with ashen soot, worthless just like any of the hollows we encounter in the earlier areas of the decrepid world of Lordran. You aren't to feel emotional, rather you are supposed to feel empty at the fact of the being represented upon you, robbing your last, supposedly "epic" experience and replacing it with a sad excuse of a bossfight. I know it could've been executed better, and I know I could've written that with better clarity, but in it's own time the tale was grand in it's lonely and desolate world.
Another example happens in persona 5, persona 5 royal and persona 5 Strikers. Since they are story games, ofc it is explained and developed better, but this one still is SICK
@@lordquaz7154 What do you consider to be the best, then? Apologies, I'm not trying to sound rude, I just really enjoy going around listening to various songs from games and I'd like to know your opinion on the best one you've heard yet!
@@cikdik No problem. This one is what I consider the best. Maby it's how I worded it, but this is what I consider the best boss theme in the franchise. That or Laurence or Sir Alonne. These 3 themes are my top 3 and I adore them. My complaint is that this isn't the true final boss of this game. The moon presence is, and that boss pails in comparison to this one.
Oh Lawrence... Master Willem... Somebody, help me. Unshackle me. Please, anybody. I've had enough of this dream. The night blocks all sight. oh, somebody please!
if you look closely, the moon in bloodborne, throughout the whole game is ahead of the clouds, a fake moon, the moon presence is always watching you...
After 3 playthroughs of Elden Ring, somehow I just wanted to hear this track. Radagon's theme was epic AF for us Tarnished, but this one hits different.
Yeah, same. I've never been hit by videogame ost as hard as this. I cried when I first fought Gehrman. Probably my favourite final boss out of all fromsoft games (shame the moon presence was such a letdown as the true final boss).
Radagon is a god who not only still retains his own power, but is also empowered by remaining shards of the elden ring, and we're able to match his power by the time we fight him. His theme should sound epic, as we are truly being tested by the Greater Will while we fight him. We are quite literally achieving something that no other protagonist in any other Soulslike has managed to achieve. With Gehrman's theme, we refuse to let him mercy kill us. We've seen too much of the hunt, gotten too much of a taste for the blood, and it clouds our judgement and vision. What we once saw as a tutor in Gehrman, we only see as an advisory who is trying to keep the rest of the dream from us. However, the truth is that Gehrman realizes the mistake he made in having us join the hunt, and only wishes to save us from the fate he fell into long ago.
The Hunter always knew the truth. As they traveled throughout the bloodied streets of Yharnam and beyond, they discovered the Eldritch Truth. The true reason behind the dream's creation and the purpose of the Hunt and the Hunters who partook in it. The Hunter freed their predecessors from the Nightmare and knew that something needed to be done about the Dream. So they consumed the three Umbilical Cords, gained the proper amount of Insight to comprehend more than what their reality offered them, slew Mergo, one of the last remaining offspring of the Great Ones, and set off to destroy the last enemy: the rotten, malicious creature that was housed within the moon. But first, he needed to help one last comrade. The Last Hunter would face off against the First. To give birth to a new world.
@@jamesholcombe675 I wish that if we got all three umbilical chords Gehrman would be sensing something in you, and if you say no to offer your life the fight is to prove that the player is capable of taking on the old one that imprisoned him
Hi, Italian here, I study Latin and Greek and I am a pianist, sometimes composer. I want to give my help for this "problematic" lyrics. I listened many times various versions of this piece. This is my last (but not the least I think, I hope Kitamura and colleagues will release their partitures one day) version of the choir part. Venator ah mihi sumo vela mala, anima do, res mihi solve recta. Luna insidiosa Mira tenebrarum (luna dolorosa) Vibices mihi miserit aeterno. Ah, hunter, I carry on myself the evil veils, I give myself entirely, find for me the right choice. The insidious moon, oh/the wonders of the night (painful moon), sent me the wounds eternally. Line 1: "vela" is the only good word I think. "Vena" isn't correct for the neutral plural. Possibly, the last word is "amara" (bitter, so figurative "painful"). Line 2: "anima" is ablative, so the sense is figurative. Line 4: I think the male voicese sing the first version proposed, the female the other on the brackets. Line 5: At the start it's "vibi-", not "divi-". "Aeterno" or "aeterna", indifferent. I hope you'll enjoy my efforts!
I feel like all of the build ups in the track, when you expect to hear something epic like a choir but you end up dissapointed and anxious, is what Gehrman felt with all of the hunters that passed by the dream. He hoped that someday someone, either the people he knew like Laurence or a hunter would eventually free him but noone did for years. But that last build up is us, the player refusing to have ourselves be saved and instead save Gehrman. That was what he was waiting for in the dream and that was what we were expecting in the build ups as listeners
Yet, he doesnt want the hunter to suffer the same fate he had to go through, and as a result the "epic" choir sounds more like it's resonating a very tragic event instead of the great finale listeners might go to hear
It's not a sign of pity. Or even hatred. It's a duty to which you must perform against your will. Gherman wants this. He needs this. His escape. His freedom. This is about you both. Life and death. You free him from this hell for which he cannot escape on his own. But in doing so. You take his mantle. You now watch all these poor hunters come into the Hunter's Dream. Lost. Hopeless. Knowing nothing but to fight. We all are fighting. For different reasons. For Gherman. Was a duty to which he swore by to do. But giving his soul and to live out this life until someone comes along and do what must be done. He does not fight to kill you. He fights to show, that he too, was a Hunter in his time and that you do not want this.
Dude is not a happy camper, and he thinks that by killing him, you are undoing what he (in his eyes) did to win the fight against the scourge of beasts. He has zero awareness to things outside the realm he is trapped in. He even laments that he hopes Laurence is doing alright.
@@thiccolascage8180 given the fact that that Laurence is in the hunters nightmare it would make sense that Gehrman knows nothing of the state he is in nor how much time has passed
All the ost is a rising wave to that very point (the choir). I keep thinking this is the best Fromsoftware ost. Elden Ring has something great too, it's quite doubtless, but dear ooo dear Gherman Ost is so intense and intimate too !
Okay, i did not expect to tear up reading the translation. Just like Laurence it fits perfectly and hits right where it hurts Damnit, Gehrman, you've suffered long enough for others. Don't be such an idiot and let me take that burden from now on!
When I heard his hidden dialog while he was having a nightmare made that play through easy Gherman "I will show you mercy " me "old friend you have served your duty well and deserve peace . I will show you mercy "
I love how every time you think there's gonna be a big creshendo and it gets all loud, it quiets back down, then gets louder again. Until it gets to the part with the choir, but even then it still sounds kinda hollow at the start, till it gets really ramped up. Then, just like before, it quiets back down, and ends with almost a whimper. Beautiful song and one of the best games I've ever played
I always interpreted that as the hunters gerhmans saved from the dream each time it starts to crescendo is when they fight and gerhman frees them and looses more hope that he’ll escape the dream
Bloodborne will always have the greatest story on all of the souls game we are but a passing hunter, searching for his peace of mind or maybe seeking the forbbiden knowledge that preys our curiosity we are cursed in this world, but we hunt and kill our way out of the darkness, because thats the only thing we can do hunt FUCK I love this game
@godrick the grafted If EA owns Fromsoftware, it is guaranteed that the graphics are cool but the deal and gameplay for items however... sucks as hell, leeching--no, devouring your wallet to the point it was a robbery just by playing it.
@@boon3772 he doesn't want to do it too he already stated he doesn't like to make continuations especially because they would invalidate the ending from the past games dark souls only has a 2nd game because Sony wanted to (and he wasn't involved on the development) and DS3 is there to fix the errors of DS2, he probably won't be making a Bloodborne 2 or elden ring 2 soon
Hello Everyone! I studied Latin for 5 years, I looked at all the four versions of the lyrics and I am afraid that they are all wrong. There are some words which do not exist and/or the grammar is a mess. Probably you are not interested, but I prepared a version which is in correct Latin, without compromising the melody of the vocal part. *Venator ah,* Hunter (ah) *Mihi sumo membra mala* (It is) for me (that) I carry this cursed flesh *Animam do* I give (my) soul *res mihi somnium restat* The dream remains something related to me *Luna insidiosa,* (Oh,) ominous moon *Mira tenebrarum,* (oh), wonders of the night *Dive vide me et misereris aeterna* God/Great being, look at me and give me eternal mercy
He tells you exactly why the lyrics are different he told you they are inspired by the lore of the game therefore this whole explanation of why this one is wrong was just Unecessary
The way the lyrics are sung is almost like it’s being cried out despair, with emphasis on the stressed delivery of “Miserete Aeterna” which really hits different once you understand the Latin definitions since it really embodies how extremely tired and done Gehrman is with being stuck in the dream
Gehrman already broke my heart, sometimes you can find him screaming for his friends to come save him while sobbing behind the house, then in the real world you find his friends corpses and their souls In the nightmare, meaning he didn't know the one hope he had was gone. He held out for so long keeping others free while waiting for something that would never come. Maybe they made a promise to take his place, maybe they promised to end the dream, whatever it was they never succeeded and he never knew. But he still kept going.
Late reply but it’s most likely that Gehrman is a place holder baby for Moon Presence, and Laurence was going to come back with an actual surrogate child and free Gerhman. Sadly tho, Laurence went and lost his head.
The reason I loved this game’s ending is that there are neither good or bad endings. Only endings where you choose the path where select people of your choosing will suffer the least. Either you let Gehrman carry on the duty forced upon him and wake, free Gehrman from the duty but not change the status quo, or enact your own changes by sacrificing your humanity to be humanity’s Great One
Bloodborne is the best game in the Soulsborne series. Hands down. Not a matter of opinion, but in quality, uniqueness, story, and even with 30 FPS. Dark Souls 1-3 is amazing, but Bloodborne is just *chefs kiss*
Its just a masterpiece like none other and Elden Ring may (and probably will) be GOTY 2022 masterpiece too, but nothing ever will beat Bloodborne, I doubt even Bloodborne 2 could
the performance can be distracting sometimes, but the lore? characters? soundtrack weapons bosses fashion everything is so amazing i wish i could experience the game for the first time again
Despite being trapped in an eternal prison, not even an eldritch god could break Gehrman's heroism. He probably would've let the Hunter take his life so he can finally be free, but deep inside, he just can't damn another to a fate worse than death.
It’s a lose lose situation for the player, Gehrman has been suffering eternally praying for freedom, stuck and filled with sorrow and with no immunity he had lost all of his sanity and forces the player to let one murder. The player feeling pity refusing to let him set you free and the fight begins in a flower field with the music setting in perfectly contrasting with the theme. Gehrmans tragic fate makes it almost impossible not to feel sorry for him, no lore character in the soul series has had me this empathetic towards. A phenomenal finish to such an exceptional game 👏 Bloodborne
Honestly, none of bloodborne’s endings really resolve the moral issue you’re presented with. The best ending is you literally just turning into a worm so that the nights cannot continue, and if you kill Gehrman, then you’re going to assume his position of the eternal tormented
I'll be honest, when playing any of the Souls games i never paid to much attention to the soundtrack, but Bloodborne was something else, that fight with Gehrman caught my attention and showed me those amazing soundtracks.
1:49 “I will spare you from this eternal nightmare, I will give my soul to the moon” “No gerhman, your time to rest has finally come upon you.” “I will take your mantle” “Very well, tonight, Gerhman joins the hunt” “Our battle will be legendary, Old Friend” 3:41
If you give attention to the end lyrics is basically Gehrman praying to the Moon, asking her to kill him "Great one, look upon me and grant everlasting mercy". Just sublime.
Both Gehrman and Isshin have earned my respect as final bosses, they’re not being consumed by absolute evil to fight you rather both fight for what they believe was right; German fought to spare you from living this long melancholy dream he’s being held under and Isshin fought to honor his dying grandsons final wish. Even after defeating them both they gladly accept death like true warriors and move on knowing they were bested by the same character they taught throughout their journey!
I never played bloodborne but I know the whole story. I keep coming back just to listen to this incredible OST over and over again cause I was also stuck in a dream for a long time in real life. I feel so connected to the suffering of Gehrman. Hideko Miajaki knows the struggle in man's life, he knows someone has to sacrifice to show others the way. One has to lose so the other can be victorious, It's painful, it gonna crush your soul yet you have to do it to end this suffering.
Alternate ending Hunter: Hey Gerhman I can beat the moon presence and stop the hunt because I have more insight than it Gerhman: say less just take my scythe and cut my head off
Any Soulsborne game can sound horrible if you dumb down the summary enough Demon’s souls: Guy had enough of the demons and decided to kill everything in his path, but he wasn’t good at it -Dark Souls I: Some ‘chosen’ skinny guy wants to hold some fire, so he kills dragons, wolves, and eventually an old man with a fiery sword that dies to 7 parries -Dark Souls II: Another skinny dude decides they wanna to beat up a tall goth lady to become an emo who controls the darkness -Dark Souls III: Some other not-so-skinny guy wants to put out the flame started by the first skinny guy, so he fights the souls of all the dudes who started it -bloodborne: a masochistic immigrant walks into medival Furcon and fights an old man to free him from hallucinations -Sekiro: Samurai. That’s all I have to say -Elden ring: a guy wakes up on a small island and is walking towards a massive tree like a moth to a flame, only to realize he’s gotta kill god itself
That moment when you refuse to bend the knee to accept death, your means of escaping the dream once and for all, and Gehrman is all like "Aight I'm smack your ass silly, youngin'." I felt that.
What I find tragedically poetic about Gerhman as a whole is that this boss fight is meant to symbolize the final duel between Master and Student and we all know how this turns out, considering Laurence and Wilhelm.
"I'm a big man now I won't cry for a videogame" This is what I tought before hearing this again after a year, I still shed tears for that glorious bastard that is Gehrman
This is why I’ve never been able to pick the Yharnam Sunrise ending. Not damning this poor old man to an eternity of suffering. In fact, this makes taking the Umbilical Cords and killing the Moon Presence all the more cathartic. The cycle ends, here and now.
Venator a mi, sumo vela mala. Anima do, res mihi somne restas. Luna insidiosa, mira tenebrarum. Di vises mi, miserete aeterna. Hunter of mine, I take the sails of evil. I give you life, you give me sleep. The moon is insidious, the wonders of darkness. See my gods, have mercy on eternal things. I feel this translates the best to Gehrman's relation to the player, and what he is trying say with his actions.
Everything comes to an end in Bloodborne, hopeless efforts put to waste for a world long since doomed to its coil. There is no such thing as a good ending in this world, which is why Bloodborne is my top 3. Pure helplessness but yet the Hunter will always be curious.
Why are Soulsborne soundtracks straight masterpieces. From the lore contained within the lyrics, to the lyrics themselves, to the beats, to the tune, all of it is spot on. This isn't just good videogame music, this is just good music, period. I love these tracks so much. You could honestly drop them in a movie or a TV series and I would not guess that they were out of place.
1:46 Every little bit, up to that time marker is beautiful and utterly spine-chilling. I almost can't believe such mesmerizingly melancholic music could continue further. And yet it does.
![Dark Souls III OST - Slave Knight Gael [Extended]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/QW32GWrlMSs/mqdefault.jpg)
Gehrman in 99% of the game: Oh... I am so weak...
Also Gehrman when you say no: FINAL BOSS.
He was *the* first hunter after all. Man still got it.
Imagine fighting him at his top form
Tonight, Gehrman joins the hunt
UNLIMITED POWWEEERRRRRRRRR
All the sudden he stands up and becomes jacked
The saddest "no u" in gaming history
Thats an underrated comment.
"I'm going to free you from your eternal suffering!"
"No, u"
"Wait wha-"
So accurate 😭
Your too underrated
@@Deadboy_Walkin yruo'e*🤓
I like how the moon is up close rather than just being in the background. It is as if the moon is looking at Gehrman intently.
It’s like gherman AND the hunter are saying this to each other
Its almost if that moon has one hell of a...presence
@@war_hawkan1727 ba dum tiss
@@war_hawkan1727 is that a pun???
@@pixelgun4789 yes.
The moon presence want this, so Gehrman have no choice.
Fear the old blood!
"The night and the dream were long..."
Farewell, good hunter. May you find your worth in the afterlife.
sad thing is that probably he's already dead, like Micolash. So he'll never meet the waking world again...
*waking world since the hunter isn't dead, just not bound to the dream anymore
@@ivanrenic4243 I think Gehrman is dead by the time you free him, since he already looked pretty old.
@@LowIntSpecimen true, but the quote is spoken by the doll and refers to the main character, not Gehrman.
@@ivanrenic4243 The original comment was probably referring to Gehrman though, since it uses his defeat dialogue.
What makes this even more sad is when you consider that it isn’t just Gehrman saying this to the player or vice versa. Most likely, they’re both saying it to each other. The player is trying to free Gehrman from the nightmare, and Gehrman is trying to protect the player from an eternity of pain
Gehrman’s lore is very sad I feel really bad for him. Glad I freed him from his eternal suffering and turned into a squid.
The one who loses, wins. And the winner, loses
I would agree, but if you beat him and then Flora, you ascend humanity.
Yes. The fact that in some part the music goes back and forth, harmonizing together as in talking to each other.
@𝐗 𝐗 𝐕 𝐈 𝐈 it's an act of him being you're teacher a mentor trying to protect his student from suffering his same fate
"Dear oh dear, what was it? The hunt? The Dream? Or the blood? Oh it doesn't matter."
"It always comes down to the hunter's helper to clean up this sort of mess."
Tonight Gerhman joins the hunt
Gives me chills
The hunt? The blood? Or the horrible dream?
😧😥😢😭😓😞
It was the Doll
"Dear o dear, what was it? The hunt? The blood? Or the horrible dream?"
No dude, it's the doll
Elden Ring: a man and a God, fighting to fix the world
Dark Souls: two people in a broken world fighting over nothing
Bloodborne: two people in a broken world fighting to save each other
Fromsoft can get poetic when they just wanna give us playable art.
Didn't Gael plan on having the ashen one deliver the blood for painting since he couldn't? I wouldn't say that was for nothing.
@@vince8237 When you travel to the final area, it's a huge time jump. The girl was dead by then, the world was going to end like that anyway, and the painting will eventually have the same fate as Ariendel.
Sekiro = unyielding loyalty of a servant to his worthy master
@@theonlyMoancoreyou can literally give the painter gael's blood btw, painted worlds maybe go through different timelines
@@MustyHam A painted world eventually has to burn away, it's a cycle, or else the rot takes over and it's an Ariendel part 2. Granted the painter is in a painted world sooooo it might be different?
The first hunter vs The last hunter
A poetic end
Oh fuck, never realized that if we kill the Praesentia Lunaris we are technically the last hunter
@@rotanux bro said "Praesentia Lunaris"
@@aquacyanideit just means moons presence. He wanted to call it by it’s Latin name
Only in one ending on the others the hunt just goes on and I've seen some people sugest that when we become great one we take on the job of the Moon presence of killing other great one and the best way to do that is throught the hunt. @@rotanux
I love that the lyrics can be interpreted in two ways.
Either its Gehrman begging us to give up so he can save us from this dream, or its the player telling Gehrman that they will end Gehrmans suffering and accept the new role the Moon Prescense will impose upon them in exchange for Gehrmans freedom.
Perhapse it is both the player and Gehrman; each saying the same to eachother, in hopes the other will back down.
@@crackensvideo probably. If that is the case, it would be more sad. And we all know BloodBorne story is sad af
Both? Both is good.
This proves the story is a masterpiece😢
Well no, because the Hunter would have no idea of the Moon Presence existence when fighting Gherman it only shows up after
Also it says “Oh, these mysterious nights” the games time span is all in one night Gherman has done this for many nights hence the wording for“I devote my life to sustain the dream” and “these”and “nights”
3:42 , why do I have tears in my eyes? ........
If they're broken, can I have the?
Grant us eyes....
"The Night and the dream were Long"
**cries**
too much insight, you looked too deep into the lore and...
dammit, so did i! 😭
Most likely a skill issue
jk it still gets me every now and then hearing this part
This fight is gut wrenching from a story perspective
Two duty bound hunters fighting tooth and nail for the honor of showing mercy to the other, both willing to keep living in this nightmarish world so the other might find some peace.
Just saying these emotional stakes are rare in video game boss fights lol
I didn’t feel nearly as emotional parrying the selfish lord gwyn into oblivion
With Gwyn I think he was less motivated by selfishness then he was by fear. He fought tooth and nail to carve out a home for his people against the arch dragons, built a kingdom, got married, had kids, and lead a prosperous kingdom.
Then, the dark sign showed up. People started hollowing, including those close to him. He implored the other lord's to look for a solution, and the chaos witches created another problem, the bed of chaos.
He chose to link the fire, genuinely trying to save his people, his family, and his friends. It was his last ditch effort to save the world. He couldn't have known about the cyclical nature of the world after all. His sacrifice was misguided heroism.
While I completely agree with you, in Gwyn's defense I don't think you were supposed to feel emotional. Atleast not in terms of the fight itself. All soulsborne games have this long lasting tradition of beating up old men in their dying breathes for whatever reason. Isshin, Vendrick, and ofcourse Gerhman have been all meaningful experiences to our persona nad character, in game and out.
But with Gwyn specifically, his experience is... Underwhelming and for good reason. He was meant to be a disappointment. His story legend dictates and represents him as this all powerful and heroic figure that led men, giant, and God alike to salvation and was known for his might and leadership against the battle of the Arch Dragons. He was painted to be this figure of importance.
But when we step through those gates within the inner chasms of a molten and rotting desolance of the kiln, all we are met is an empty husk devoid of all meaning, and serves as a lowly cradle to a dying flame. Hollowed out, broken, covered with ashen soot, worthless just like any of the hollows we encounter in the earlier areas of the decrepid world of Lordran. You aren't to feel emotional, rather you are supposed to feel empty at the fact of the being represented upon you, robbing your last, supposedly "epic" experience and replacing it with a sad excuse of a bossfight.
I know it could've been executed better, and I know I could've written that with better clarity, but in it's own time the tale was grand in it's lonely and desolate world.
Another example happens in persona 5, persona 5 royal and persona 5 Strikers. Since they are story games, ofc it is explained and developed better, but this one still is SICK
@@vanelli6900 persona is an ntr game
@@devontheundivided9815 only if you let it be.
Just when you think you're at the end of this unbelievable melody, 3:42 slaps you across the face and takes you back into the Hunter's Dream.
Best part of the ost genuinely gives me chills, miyazaki just a mastermind at making these games
This is without a shadow of a doubt, the best boss theme in the entire souls series. It's just a shame it's not the final boss theme.
Technically is depending on what ending you go for
This is the best boss theme in gaming
@@theonlyMoancore That is a bit of a stretch, but it is a very good one.
@@lordquaz7154 What do you consider to be the best, then? Apologies, I'm not trying to sound rude, I just really enjoy going around listening to various songs from games and I'd like to know your opinion on the best one you've heard yet!
@@cikdik No problem. This one is what I consider the best. Maby it's how I worded it, but this is what I consider the best boss theme in the franchise. That or Laurence or Sir Alonne. These 3 themes are my top 3 and I adore them.
My complaint is that this isn't the true final boss of this game. The moon presence is, and that boss pails in comparison to this one.
Oh Lawrence... Master Willem... Somebody, help me. Unshackle me. Please, anybody. I've had enough of this dream. The night blocks all sight. oh, somebody please!
if you look closely, the moon in bloodborne, throughout the whole game is ahead of the clouds, a fake moon, the moon presence is always watching you...
spooky
We never noticed it because gamers can’t look up
Ohh Gerhman, I'll take your place. You can now rest in peace old mentor.
You’re gave me chills
@@anthonywilliams3009 He is "gave me chills" ? What a strange name
funny .. pretty funny@@amai-w8f
@@amai-w8f ha
After 3 playthroughs of Elden Ring, somehow I just wanted to hear this track. Radagon's theme was epic AF for us Tarnished, but this one hits different.
this is actually in elden ring, one of the merchants plays it although its not the complete track
@@awesomebuck2139yup! just realized it, found the merchant in Forest-Spanning Greatbridge at Atlus Plateau.
Radagon sounds glorious, as he is basically known as a legend to everyone, and the husband of queen rennala. This one is just, depression
Yeah, same. I've never been hit by videogame ost as hard as this. I cried when I first fought Gehrman. Probably my favourite final boss out of all fromsoft games (shame the moon presence was such a letdown as the true final boss).
Radagon is a god who not only still retains his own power, but is also empowered by remaining shards of the elden ring, and we're able to match his power by the time we fight him. His theme should sound epic, as we are truly being tested by the Greater Will while we fight him. We are quite literally achieving something that no other protagonist in any other Soulslike has managed to achieve.
With Gehrman's theme, we refuse to let him mercy kill us. We've seen too much of the hunt, gotten too much of a taste for the blood, and it clouds our judgement and vision. What we once saw as a tutor in Gehrman, we only see as an advisory who is trying to keep the rest of the dream from us. However, the truth is that Gehrman realizes the mistake he made in having us join the hunt, and only wishes to save us from the fate he fell into long ago.
The Hunter always knew the truth. As they traveled throughout the bloodied streets of Yharnam and beyond, they discovered the Eldritch Truth. The true reason behind the dream's creation and the purpose of the Hunt and the Hunters who partook in it. The Hunter freed their predecessors from the Nightmare and knew that something needed to be done about the Dream. So they consumed the three Umbilical Cords, gained the proper amount of Insight to comprehend more than what their reality offered them, slew Mergo, one of the last remaining offspring of the Great Ones, and set off to destroy the last enemy: the rotten, malicious creature that was housed within the moon.
But first, he needed to help one last comrade. The Last Hunter would face off against the First. To give birth to a new world.
It was a song of mercy. All these years I never knew until this moment.
I cried silent tears as I joined the last chorus in song.
At least it's not the depressing, hopeless cry for help that is Twin Princes theme. This one at least has hope, hope that you will give up.
@@theonlyMoancore But nobody would give up.
Why would anyone give up on showing mercy.
Oh yea hes trying to save you from an eternity of servitude in this fight lol.
@@jamesholcombe675
I wish that if we got all three umbilical chords Gehrman would be sensing something in you, and if you say no to offer your life the fight is to prove that the player is capable of taking on the old one that imprisoned him
@@thelonelystankmuncher8879 so whats after that? If gherman didnt die moon present woulldnt come out too
Hi, Italian here, I study Latin and Greek and I am a pianist, sometimes composer. I want to give my help for this "problematic" lyrics. I listened many times various versions of this piece. This is my last (but not the least I think, I hope Kitamura and colleagues will release their partitures one day) version of the choir part.
Venator ah mihi sumo vela mala,
anima do, res mihi solve recta.
Luna insidiosa
Mira tenebrarum (luna dolorosa)
Vibices mihi miserit aeterno.
Ah, hunter, I carry on myself the evil veils,
I give myself entirely, find for me the right choice.
The insidious moon,
oh/the wonders of the night (painful moon),
sent me the wounds eternally.
Line 1: "vela" is the only good word I think. "Vena" isn't correct for the neutral plural. Possibly, the last word is "amara" (bitter, so figurative "painful").
Line 2: "anima" is ablative, so the sense is figurative.
Line 4: I think the male voicese sing the first version proposed, the female the other on the brackets.
Line 5: At the start it's "vibi-", not "divi-". "Aeterno" or "aeterna", indifferent.
I hope you'll enjoy my efforts!
Thanks!
Grazie mille del contributo, hats off to you.
The Latin case system is bonkers 😵💫
Ευχαριστώ
thanks a bunch bro
I feel like all of the build ups in the track, when you expect to hear something epic like a choir but you end up dissapointed and anxious, is what Gehrman felt with all of the hunters that passed by the dream. He hoped that someday someone, either the people he knew like Laurence or a hunter would eventually free him but noone did for years. But that last build up is us, the player refusing to have ourselves be saved and instead save Gehrman. That was what he was waiting for in the dream and that was what we were expecting in the build ups as listeners
Yet, he doesnt want the hunter to suffer the same fate he had to go through, and as a result the "epic" choir sounds more like it's resonating a very tragic event instead of the great finale listeners might go to hear
damn... i almost cried. at least it's almost ove-
*_VENATOR A MI SUMO VELA MALA_*
😭
I cried
*ANIMA DO RES SIHI SOMNE RESTAS*
It's not a sign of pity. Or even hatred. It's a duty to which you must perform against your will. Gherman wants this. He needs this. His escape. His freedom. This is about you both. Life and death. You free him from this hell for which he cannot escape on his own. But in doing so. You take his mantle. You now watch all these poor hunters come into the Hunter's Dream. Lost. Hopeless. Knowing nothing but to fight. We all are fighting. For different reasons. For Gherman. Was a duty to which he swore by to do. But giving his soul and to live out this life until someone comes along and do what must be done. He does not fight to kill you. He fights to show, that he too, was a Hunter in his time and that you do not want this.
wow hits hard bro
Dude is not a happy camper, and he thinks that by killing him, you are undoing what he (in his eyes) did to win the fight against the scourge of beasts. He has zero awareness to things outside the realm he is trapped in. He even laments that he hopes Laurence is doing alright.
@@thiccolascage8180 given the fact that that Laurence is in the hunters nightmare it would make sense that Gehrman knows nothing of the state he is in nor how much time has passed
Man no offense but all those periods aren’t deep they just hurt
Knowing nothing but to fight, I guess you can say his memory is broken, the truth goes unspoken and he almost forgets his name.
I love how the nomadic merchant plays the first minute of his song in eldenring got to atlus plateau and go to broken bridge bonfire to hear it
"Legends of heroes and hunters are singed under moons of different nights."
Multiverse proof? Elden ring could take place before dark souls with flame of frenzy but where does bloodborne fit In?
@@hepic2874 the games are not connected. its just an easter egg
@@marioplumber3378 but it could be true.
@@hepic2874 Miyazaki himself literally deconfirmed this
This OST, Ludwig and Lady Maria are my 3 favorite OST in the franchise.
Laurence, the first vicar and yhorm the giant are up there for me.
Orphan of Kos deserves recognition too. All the soundtracks in this game are beautiful.
1- Laurence.
2- Twin Princes.
3- Ludwig.
But when it comes to other things, Gehrman is the best hands down.
1: Epilogue (ds3)
2: this
3: Abyss Watchers
@@julianvilorio3993 same
I feel like this translation makes the most sense out of all of them, and goddamn it, I still get choked up when that choir starts up
All the ost is a rising wave to that very point (the choir). I keep thinking this is the best Fromsoftware ost. Elden Ring has something great too, it's quite doubtless, but dear ooo dear Gherman Ost is so intense and intimate too !
Okay, i did not expect to tear up reading the translation. Just like Laurence it fits perfectly and hits right where it hurts
Damnit, Gehrman, you've suffered long enough for others. Don't be such an idiot and let me take that burden from now on!
The nicest way of saying "just let me kill you"
So anyway I started slashing.
After that I killed a Big ass squid looking MF and turned into one.
I'M HUNTER SQUID(ward).
😢❤
When I heard his hidden dialog while he was having a nightmare made that play through easy Gherman "I will show you mercy " me "old friend you have served your duty well and deserve peace . I will show you mercy "
I love how every time you think there's gonna be a big creshendo and it gets all loud, it quiets back down, then gets louder again. Until it gets to the part with the choir, but even then it still sounds kinda hollow at the start, till it gets really ramped up. Then, just like before, it quiets back down, and ends with almost a whimper. Beautiful song and one of the best games I've ever played
I always interpreted that as the hunters gerhmans saved from the dream each time it starts to crescendo is when they fight and gerhman frees them and looses more hope that he’ll escape the dream
Bloodborne will always have the greatest story on all of the souls game
we are but a passing hunter, searching for his peace of mind or maybe seeking the forbbiden knowledge that preys our curiosity
we are cursed in this world, but we hunt and kill our way out of the darkness, because thats the only thing we can do
hunt
FUCK I love this game
According to Miyazaki, Bloodborne is the one that stick to his heart the most compared to others he'd created throughout SoulsBorne games.
He cant do bloodborne 2 because bloodborne owned by sony
@@boon3772 Still, lot better than being owned by EA
@godrick the grafted If EA owns Fromsoftware, it is guaranteed that the graphics are cool but the deal and gameplay for items however... sucks as hell, leeching--no, devouring your wallet to the point it was a robbery just by playing it.
@@boon3772 he doesn't want to do it too
he already stated he doesn't like to make continuations especially because they would invalidate the ending from the past games
dark souls only has a 2nd game because Sony wanted to (and he wasn't involved on the development) and DS3 is there to fix the errors of DS2, he probably won't be making a Bloodborne 2 or elden ring 2 soon
"Dear, oh dear. What was it? The Hunt? The Blood? Or the horrible dream?"
"No... It was the doll."
Hello Everyone! I studied Latin for 5 years, I looked at all the four versions of the lyrics and I am afraid that they are all wrong. There are some words which do not exist and/or the grammar is a mess. Probably you are not interested, but I prepared a version which is in correct Latin, without compromising the melody of the vocal part.
*Venator ah,*
Hunter (ah)
*Mihi sumo membra mala*
(It is) for me (that) I carry this cursed flesh
*Animam do*
I give (my) soul
*res mihi somnium restat*
The dream remains something related to me
*Luna insidiosa,*
(Oh,) ominous moon
*Mira tenebrarum,*
(oh), wonders of the night
*Dive vide me et misereris aeterna*
God/Great being, look at me and give me eternal mercy
The translation you gave still fits the fight.
That's actually really interesting
To be honest, this is the best version. Simple yet powerful.
Thanks a lot
He tells you exactly why the lyrics are different he told you they are inspired by the lore of the game therefore this whole explanation of why this one is wrong was just Unecessary
The way the lyrics are sung is almost like it’s being cried out despair, with emphasis on the stressed delivery of “Miserete Aeterna” which really hits different once you understand the Latin definitions since it really embodies how extremely tired and done Gehrman is with being stuck in the dream
gherman just wanted to save you from the dream, from witnessing moon presence, but it was time for him to rest. for us was time to kill one last god.
After finishing elden ring I can still say this is the best boss theme of all time
Fact
i love the godfrey one tho
Slave Knight Gael tops for me
@@blackchroma8847 for my ladys painting.
After Finishing Eldenring, I can Say This ist the best Game ever. Bloodborne is my new Religion.
1:47 Always sends chills through my entire body
2:30 is the best part in my opinion but tbh the whole ost is a masterpiece
In 4:10, one of the masculine singers really took the last “e” in “miserete” out of his soul
Gehrman already broke my heart, sometimes you can find him screaming for his friends to come save him while sobbing behind the house, then in the real world you find his friends corpses and their souls In the nightmare, meaning he didn't know the one hope he had was gone. He held out for so long keeping others free while waiting for something that would never come.
Maybe they made a promise to take his place, maybe they promised to end the dream, whatever it was they never succeeded and he never knew.
But he still kept going.
Late reply but it’s most likely that Gehrman is a place holder baby for Moon Presence, and Laurence was going to come back with an actual surrogate child and free Gerhman. Sadly tho, Laurence went and lost his head.
The reason I loved this game’s ending is that there are neither good or bad endings. Only endings where you choose the path where select people of your choosing will suffer the least. Either you let Gehrman carry on the duty forced upon him and wake, free Gehrman from the duty but not change the status quo, or enact your own changes by sacrificing your humanity to be humanity’s Great One
The setting, fight and music were already very sad...
But the lyrics just broke me
Games like this are just pure art
I find a strange bittersweet feel to the whole motivation of both the player and gherman being : Let me kill you I care about you.
I see you, filthy Homestuck.
@@Steven-xz5xt let me tell you about homestuck
@@hummus1973 I already know :0)
Bloodborne is the best game in the Soulsborne series. Hands down. Not a matter of opinion, but in quality, uniqueness, story, and even with 30 FPS. Dark Souls 1-3 is amazing, but Bloodborne is just *chefs kiss*
Miyazaki has said even if these games are like children and he “does not have a favorite”, Bloodborne is his favorite lol
Its just a masterpiece like none other and
Elden Ring may (and probably will) be GOTY 2022 masterpiece too, but nothing ever will beat Bloodborne, I doubt even Bloodborne 2 could
the performance can be distracting sometimes, but the lore? characters? soundtrack weapons bosses fashion everything is so amazing i wish i could experience the game for the first time again
Agreed.
Ds1 still the GOAT deep in my heart
Farewell, good hunter.
May you find your worth in the waking world.
Two people trying to mercy kill, and save the other from a fate worse than death.
Despite being trapped in an eternal prison, not even an eldritch god could break Gehrman's heroism. He probably would've let the Hunter take his life so he can finally be free, but deep inside, he just can't damn another to a fate worse than death.
7 years passed and this is still my most favorite soundtrack in the gaming history.
The last boss being just a sad old man it's somehow perfect
bloodborne the musical
imagine gehrman actually singing to the hunter as he fights him.
It’s a lose lose situation for the player, Gehrman has been suffering eternally praying for freedom, stuck and filled with sorrow and with no immunity he had lost all of his sanity and forces the player to let one murder.
The player feeling pity refusing to let him set you free and the fight begins in a flower field with the music setting in perfectly contrasting with the theme. Gehrmans tragic fate makes it almost impossible not to feel sorry for him, no lore character in the soul series has had me this empathetic towards. A phenomenal finish to such an exceptional game 👏 Bloodborne
Honestly, none of bloodborne’s endings really resolve the moral issue you’re presented with. The best ending is you literally just turning into a worm so that the nights cannot continue, and if you kill Gehrman, then you’re going to assume his position of the eternal tormented
The epileptic seizures i experience from the goosepumps hitting at 1:49 and 3:44 really get me going to start my day. I just love this....
Man what the heck 💀
I'll be honest, when playing any of the Souls games i never paid to much attention to the soundtrack, but Bloodborne was something else, that fight with Gehrman caught my attention and showed me those amazing soundtracks.
Awake now, good Gehrman. No one will share your fate, we will ensure it.
Translation:
Sitting here, I realize
You are just like me trying to make history
1:49
“I will spare you from this eternal nightmare, I will give my soul to the moon”
“No gerhman, your time to rest has finally come upon you.”
“I will take your mantle”
“Very well, tonight, Gerhman joins the hunt”
“Our battle will be legendary, Old Friend”
3:41
Bloodborne es una obra maestra y el mejor juego de la saga soulsborne
ER>
You've done quite enough, Gehrman. We'll take it from here......
I'm sorry Gehrman, I will not let you free me. I will free you.
Two hunters fighting to the death to take the burden of an eternal nightmare from each other.
If you give attention to the end lyrics is basically Gehrman praying to the Moon, asking her to kill him "Great one, look upon me and grant everlasting mercy". Just sublime.
I actually tought about it like Gehrman asking the Moon Presence to not put us in his place as host of the dream
Both Gehrman and Isshin have earned my respect as final bosses, they’re not being consumed by absolute evil to fight you rather both fight for what they believe was right; German fought to spare you from living this long melancholy dream he’s being held under and Isshin fought to honor his dying grandsons final wish. Even after defeating them both they gladly accept death like true warriors and move on knowing they were bested by the same character they taught throughout their journey!
Gael deveria estar nessa lista
I never played bloodborne but I know the whole story. I keep coming back just to listen to this incredible OST over and over again cause I was also stuck in a dream for a long time in real life. I feel so connected to the suffering of Gehrman. Hideko Miajaki knows the struggle in man's life, he knows someone has to sacrifice to show others the way. One has to lose so the other can be victorious, It's painful, it gonna crush your soul yet you have to do it to end this suffering.
The moon being in front of the clouds is incredibly unsettling
The Strongest Hunter in History vs The Strongest Hunter of Today
Alternate ending
Hunter: Hey Gerhman I can beat the moon presence and stop the hunt because I have more insight than it
Gerhman: say less just take my scythe and cut my head off
_Rest in peace, my friend. May you never again awaken to yet another horrible dream._
My favorite Fromsoft OSTs
1-Lawrence
2-Gerhman
3-Terror/Gael
4-Godfrey/Radahn
5-Ludwig
I tried so hard to hold back tears when the song started while thinking about the story. But then the chorus started, and it broke me.
Thank you for this translation and thanks everyone's who helped/inspired you! It's so beautiful!
Elden Ring doesn't have a single soundtrack that evokes such a level of feelings. Gwyn, AW, Gherman. Masterpieces are timeless.
Maybe Radagon, but...
@@CorvusJPand god skin apostoles y godfrey
If they had real lyrics that would be debatable
Bloodborne had the best music. Best combat and aesthetic too.
sekiro combat way better
@@ScrodumHat Sekiro best combat from all fromsoftware but worst story in comparison
@@Pankreastitis better than demon souls
@@ScrodumHat That's true
Any Soulsborne game can sound horrible if you dumb down the summary enough
Demon’s souls: Guy had enough of the demons and decided to kill everything in his path, but he wasn’t good at it
-Dark Souls I: Some ‘chosen’ skinny guy wants to hold some fire, so he kills dragons, wolves, and eventually an old man with a fiery sword that dies to 7 parries
-Dark Souls II: Another skinny dude decides they wanna to beat up a tall goth lady to become an emo who controls the darkness
-Dark Souls III: Some other not-so-skinny guy wants to put out the flame started by the first skinny guy, so he fights the souls of all the dudes who started it
-bloodborne: a masochistic immigrant walks into medival Furcon and fights an old man to free him from hallucinations
-Sekiro: Samurai. That’s all I have to say
-Elden ring: a guy wakes up on a small island and is walking towards a massive tree like a moth to a flame, only to realize he’s gotta kill god itself
Lyrics:
venator a mí
sumo vela mala,
anima do res
mihi somne restas.
Luna insidiosa,
mira tenebrarum
di vises mí miserte aeterna.
Grandads when you refuse the birthday money.
We have finnaly been granted eyes, and they are numbed with tears...
Thank you for this keen hunter...
May you find peace Gherman, Last of the Old Hunters. Be freed from the dream forevermore.
This makes so much more sense when you know his lore
That moment when you refuse to bend the knee to accept death, your means of escaping the dream once and for all, and Gehrman is all like "Aight I'm smack your ass silly, youngin'." I felt that.
Best boss theme I ever listened to... And I've listened to a lot in my gamer life!
Observe:
ruclips.net/video/Mq8E_1LkoAc/видео.html
@@otachipg686 they are too different
The real fight is holding back tears while keeping 2 hands on the controller
Dude, the chord between the choir and the strings after the last lyrics so fucking beautiful it makes my eyes misty every time.
glad these videos are still around
How dare this have one dislike 😩, In the name of the Vilebloods I say we hunt ‘em down. Take their dregs heheheh..
Aye, in the name of Master Logarius, we will cease our war to hunt this person
@@falah6398 In the name of all confederates of our noble League, we shall help you in your quest.
@@Deasty The Hunters of Hunters also pledge our blades to hunt this beast
@@fiercedeity9955 a month late but so do the powder kegs
And so do the people who has Embrace the Beast within
Now that I aquired some earphones, I now can fully feel and listen to this music's magnificence, and goddamn did this bring emotions
First Hunter vs The Last Hunter
Mentor vs Best Student
Both trying to free the other from this nightmare
A poetic end to a beautiful game....
0:45 make tears in my eyes. so dark and beautiful. what a masterpiece.
“Oh hunter you need to escape this horrible dream.”
“No u”
Famous last words
0:30 this fake build up is my fav part of this piece
This is the greatest game ever made.
What I find tragedically poetic about Gerhman as a whole is that this boss fight is meant to symbolize the final duel between Master and Student and we all know how this turns out, considering Laurence and Wilhelm.
Everytime i look at the moon on Elden Ring, im gonna remember this song and Gerhman.
"I'm a big man now I won't cry for a videogame"
This is what I tought before hearing this again after a year, I still shed tears for that glorious bastard that is Gehrman
Bro I ligit get emotional hearing this song. I can’t help it… just 2 noble hunters, each trying to save the other from an eternity of pain… it hurts
This is why I’ve never been able to pick the Yharnam Sunrise ending. Not damning this poor old man to an eternity of suffering.
In fact, this makes taking the Umbilical Cords and killing the Moon Presence all the more cathartic. The cycle ends, here and now.
Venator a mi, sumo vela mala.
Anima do, res mihi somne restas.
Luna insidiosa, mira tenebrarum.
Di vises mi, miserete aeterna.
Hunter of mine, I take the sails of evil.
I give you life, you give me sleep.
The moon is insidious, the wonders of darkness.
See my gods, have mercy on eternal things.
I feel this translates the best to Gehrman's relation to the player, and what he is trying say with his actions.
"You MUST accept your death...
be freeeeeee...from the night"
- as he saves you from lifetime imprisonment .
Poetic
Everything comes to an end in Bloodborne, hopeless efforts put to waste for a world long since doomed to its coil. There is no such thing as a good ending in this world, which is why Bloodborne is my top 3. Pure helplessness but yet the Hunter will always be curious.
Why are Soulsborne soundtracks straight masterpieces. From the lore contained within the lyrics, to the lyrics themselves, to the beats, to the tune, all of it is spot on. This isn't just good videogame music, this is just good music, period. I love these tracks so much. You could honestly drop them in a movie or a TV series and I would not guess that they were out of place.
Sadly that's only in bloodborne. Others are made up words
1:46
Every little bit, up to that time marker is beautiful and utterly spine-chilling. I almost can't believe such mesmerizingly melancholic music could continue further. And yet it does.
The best music of all souls
No matter what I can't stop coming back to this, it's just too...much for one to get.
One of the greatest OST of all time