What happened to the Psycho house?
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- Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2017
- Extreme Nerdy Horror Trivia! The history of the Psycho house, its many changes, and debating if the house that still stands on the Universal Studios backlot is really the original Pyscho house or not. Also discussing its relationship to the Munsters and Elvira Mistress of the Dark house. #retro #retrogaming #nes #snes #jamesrolfe #mikematei #atari #playthrough #gameplay #gamereview
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i swear you need to make a series called 'cinematically confused' and just talk about the history of small confusing stuff in famous films.
Brodie Zilla You think this is “SMALL”? How dare you! Wars have started over less!
Facts! More like this my nerd!
*I just watched a 10 minute video about the history of a house facade and I enjoyed it*
It still wasn't as thrilling as the video about the piece of cardboard.
+Henriko Magnifico
I'd enjoy your comment more if your grammar was consistent.
...enjoyed it.*
Redmen A No. This, talking about cinematic history, even if it's just about a façade, is not strange. I mean, isn't this one reason we're subbed to Cinemassacre (the other being AVGN)?
Good for you, but why type it in bold?
Henriko Magnifico \ (👁 w 👁) /
Note: the interior of the Phantom stage was dismantled and placed in storage, so only the building is gone, everything else still exists
Thank GOD!!
Yap and they kind of had to do that since it was built with asbestos which could've killed a lot of people in the theme park there.
they're moving it to a new part in the lot
lemonbemon id love to check it out when its moved
@@LetsGoGetThem Ah, Asbestos, smells like the 1930s
I always knew “Desperate Housewives” was evil.
They seemed really desperate to shoot right there!
The fact that the show fucked up some of the most iconic horror/film houses just cements my hatred for that damned show
@@trentonfowler4169 It was actually a decent show when you look past the title and get over the fact that it's about housewives in some upper middleclass suburb. Kind of a sinister vibe to it in places as well.
@@placeholdername3206 It's not so good if you have to remove the most important parts to be "decent"
lShadowdark Exactly.
Desperate housewives are the real monster's
A movie could be made about the changes(destruction) to that street. Now THAT would be a horror movie.
"Munsters"
Definitely. How could they just destroy the Munster's house for a stupid reality show?
Such a waste.
So that's why Dale Cooper was there.
@@lynntaylor9681 it was a dramedy show not a reality show. I think you mean the real housewives of
Damn those Desperate Housewives!
"Ellie, we truly are The Desperate Housewives".
paradoxdesigns I call the show the extremely desperate house wives lmao 😂
IKR?? I was really happy I never watched that series, now more than ever!
I cannot escape the irony here of "Desperate Housewives" being filmed in "Psycho House". :)
paradoxdesigns there so desperate
I met Anthony Perkins on a Universal Studios tour back the early 80's. He was at the Psycho house and the tram stopped and we all got to say hi.
I did not know that Desperate Housewives ruined all of that. I'm pretty happy I got to do the lot tour back in 2001 before they totally screwed it up.
Me too. I toured in 2002 and photographed the house when I did the tour of the backlots. I am happy too.😀
Karen Bavington I did the tour in 1977 when it was still on the hill. Was still in so so shape back then.
I saw the psycho house on a tour in 1990
Kristin Terrana So? Desperate Housewives has a very good following too. Many people come to see the street because of that show.
@@cordeliachase601 Its a shit show though.
The Stanley hotel, which was the hotel where the Shining took place, is still a real life functioning hotel in Estes park Colorado.
Griffisuuu They did use the Stanley Hotel in television miniseries remake of The Shinning that happened in 97. It was based more on the book than the Kubrick version, but interesting that it was used for some of the shoot.
The Stanley Kubrick 'The Shining' movie was, other than a few Arial shots, filmed entirely in Britain (just like a few of his other movies - it's said that Stanley was afraid of flying, so preferred not to travel for his movies) even the movie 'Full Metal Jacket' was filmed in its entirety in England, including the Vietnam scenes (my wife got to visit the set for FMJ when she was about 12, as her uncle was an electrician on set and it was the Vietnam set, and only filmed about 5 miles from her house in Dagenham, aswell as a clockwork orange being filmed about 5 miles from this location too). You tend to find a lot of movies/TV are not filmed at the actual locations that they are set in.
Funny story, they actually had to change the room number where all the creepy sh*t goes down. I think in the novel it was 217 and in the Kubrick film it was 237, they did this so that future guests who visited wouldn't feel frightened or superstitious about staying in the room, although I'd feel frightened by just staying in the Hotel to begin with.
Dumb and Dumber has parts of the film filmed at the actual Stanley, but the Shinning wasn’t. I visited it a few months ago it was really neat.
Well actually the hotel they use for the aerial shots of timberline lodge in Colorado
Bates Motel was filmed in my childhood hometown of Aldergrove,BC. when the township decided to tear it down(about 3 yrs after they finished filming the series), i knew it was a mistake. they should've turned the front into a diner and kept the hose in the background. that would've brought so many tourists to that small town
Agreed, I drove by it several times. It was really cool.
logan kerr A “hose”? There was a hose in the background? The Munsters did it. They were probably too busy bickering to notice that they left it.
The town council was just plain dumb. Any life or inventiveness to them and you're quite right they could have turned the motel part below into something for tourists and left the house as the backdrop.
I own one of the pickets from the front porch of the house. I worked on the backlot in 1999, when Universal was doing repairs on the house, and took one home with me. They were being thrown out anyway. But yes, who knows if that one piece is even an original?
LOL why do you hold on to an old piece of wood you swiped from a movie lot?Live in the moment, man!
@@technoman9000 Spoken like a true millennial!!!!!
@@technoman9000 It’s simply memorials and keepsakes, not understanding that - laughing at it even, makes you incredibly naïve.
Besides, if you don't remember the past you are bound to repeat stupid mistakes and dangerous patterns.
Live in the moment, but don't forget that the past is what brought you to that moment you're now living in.
Mikael Karlsson I say fuck that guy. That’s a cool story and a nice bit of memorabilia for you to hold onto. I’m 19 and know full well how important remembering shit can be to people, guy talking down on you must be 12.
I am a millenial and I'd cherish that piece of wood like the piece of history that it is
I love when James gets all deep and philosophical at the end lol. He’s really an intelligent guy
They made a replica of the house for the show "Bates Motel" but then took it down when the show was over.
I'm sad it finished :(
The show just ended.
The show ended in April 2017, so how can they have taken it down 5 years after the show ended, when it just ended this year?
RedVIII They started shooting in 2013 and ended in 2017.
RedVIII My point exactly.
The Whoville Town all around, makes the Psycho House WAAAAAY creepier.
That movie was so weird.
Lmfao the fact that they took down the original psycho house but are in no rush to change whoville
Agreed...
I think The Grinch might be moving into that house, where he can lord over The Whos and scowl down at them!
The Whoville set was dismantled recently
HOPPER. The artist's name is Hopper. Influential American artist perhaps most well known for Nighthawks. Not everybody shares a name with a Jaws character XD
The Myers house being moved down the street, painted, and turned into a chiropractor office was a bigger bummer.
at least it’s not demolished as long as people are allowed to go in and see I guess
At least the second story wasn't completely destroyed and replaced to make a dumb reality show
Why would universal destroy the phantom of the Opera set in 2014? A time when preservation is well understood. I don't get it. How could you make the decision to destroy film history?
Deadwolf Harry Potter 🤷🏻♂️
Deadwolf asbestos.
That's fun and all, but I bet there was some pretty good decay going on. And fully restoring something that is only important for being the original doesn't make sense either.
They only demolished the sound stage, the set was placed into storage.
Corporations
Another fun fact: In 1987 the WOW ActionMax game "The Rescue of Pops Ghostly" was shot in the Psycho House =) This was revealed in my interview with Ron Brody in episode 46 of Light Gun Reviews.
That's really intriguing, I guess the house got used quite a lot over the years.
Not that I'm important to the discussion, but that game is also my namesake ;)
I just always found it pretty fascinating that it's possible to pick up and move an entire house.
I love how this started as some harmless horror trivia and turned into the Ship of Theseus debate.
Universal has no love for film history, even the parts they've created.
Defo true there its just pisses me off what there did to those classic films
Yep, and now the Tora, Tora, Tora battleships are gone.
Who cares? 🤷♂️ What are they supposed to do? Keep every single set from every classic movie ever? Do you know how much space that would start taking up? Most studios do this. Old Disney ride carts are destroyed, the Harry Potter sets were destroyed by Warner Bros after Deathly Hallows was done. Saving these sets is the equivalent of saving old junk in your basement just soley based on emotional connection. Even if it's never touched.
That's show business baby
I agree, look at what they did to the orca from Jaws? Spielberg has spoken about how they got rid of it, they could have easily kept it and looked after it, It's a classic part of film history.
was just at universal two weeks ago and didnt see the house next to the motel
CoinOpTV it's up the hill from the motel, right before War of the Worlds, at the Hollywood location.
"Everything changes, man!" - No stoner hippie's t-shirt could have said it better ;-)
Deep!
I love these weekly mystery old movie videos you're doing. Keep it up.
i can watch these all day.
These aren’t old films tho
yes, its awesome
@@eggboi8475 well, Psycho is 60 years old. Dracula is 90 years old and The Phantom of the Opera is nearly 100 years old.
I've always been obsessed with the look of the Psycho house and said that if I got the money, I'd build a real one.
I absolutely love the caricatures of the original syico
@@synthtoaster Pehaps u shood uze yr splchk so yu dontlook so stoopid
Harry Fishback hahaha I know your joking 🙃 have fun idc
@@synthtoaster I love your profile picture haha
Me too.
War though, it never changes.
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Some Random RUclips Commenter stop
Well, according to Old Snake, war has changed
War, it never changes.
Or does it?
The war has changed.
Did it?
The answer is No, unless it is Yes.
No, of course it is, is it war.
Yes.. No.. Yes?
war.. war never chan- (snake) WAR HAS CHANGED!
I think what makes things confusing is that both the physco house, and the Allison/Harvey house were both fashioned after a very specific type of architecture. The name of the architecture is called Second Empire. Second Empire architecture is synonymous with your typical "spooky" "haunted" house. I would say it was just a coincidence that there were just two structures fashioned in a Second Empire, architecture. Since both are similar, we're just confusing them both to be one .
For added fun, there's a fan-built replica of Munster Mansion in Waxahachie, Texas that's open for tours every October.
It's such a perfect recreation that it almost makes up for the fact that the original was remodeled so heavily.
Keep these videos coming James, i'm not a horror movie fan myself but all these "historical" videos are very interesting and fun to watch.
*That was a nice history lesson ✅🙂*
I am giving you an A+ for your relentless persistence in searching out this part of cinematic history! I am so impressed -- you left no stone unturned. Thanks for this master class and excellent presentation!
Anyone else triggered at the destruction of cinema history?
Zachary K. Yes! 😖🙁🙁🙁
Why would anyone do that to a 90 year old priceless relic, is what boggles my mind.
It's just a facade. It's not like they destroyed a real house.
@SPAZE PARANOIDS !!!! !
Pissed off?
That's for pussies!
I'm fucking outraged!!
Who the hell tears down something with such a long history?
Itr is not real it never was it was a grand illusion a fantasy if it were actually something real in my opinion it would lose the whole concept of being a dream it would lose the sense of something we long for but cannot obtain something we knew for only a moment but remembered for a lifetime......
If it was next door on the same side of the street, it would be 1315 Mockingbird Lane.
Good point. I was looking at it left-to-right, but it could be going either way.
Does it really matter?
@@Acrophobia1981 Yes it does
Exactly... 1314 is ACROSS the street. And we definitely don't live on a spinning ball covered with water. Lmao.
That's what I was going to say.
You could say Desperate Housewives was... quite desperate.
Mike Fluff *CSI Miami theme plays*
James I loved when you were making videos of this nature (Frankenstein's brain, the Dracula cardboard one) and I must say they were by far some of the most interesting and captivating videos you've made in a while. Please bring this series back! They were honestly all such a joy to watch and I'd love if you continued it.
Very well done video essay, James! These are the kinds of videos I love to watch. I never thought much about the Psycho house until you began dissecting the facade and possible places it went.
Psycho is still one of my favorite films of all time
The gold old Ship of Thesius debate. A ship goes to battle, gets damaged, is repaired with new parts, and it continues until none of the parts are original. So is this ship still the same, or is it new? At what point does it become new? Our cells and atoms are replaced each year, so are we still us? Am I overthinking a video about a movie from the sixties?
Adam Mathis I was trying to remember the name of the paradox! Cheers for that. Happens at the end of Wall•E too. :)
It was mentioned in Doctor Who as well, series 8.
"Our cells and atoms are replaced each year"
WRONG, it takes something like 7 years
Cheers to you too Ken. Cookie love the DH reference I'm a big fan. tbb033 yeah we're not 100% replaced each year, but like the ship our parts are gradually changed out.
You forgot the part where the old parts are used to rebuilt the ship, so you have the same ship twice. That may be a newer addition to the paradox though. ^^
It was still there on the universal studios back lot in 1991. went for a tour round it.
But if you saw this video and you're also a Hitchcok fan and movie history buff this is just a pale imitation in a third location marred by large sets from other movies hovering over and around it. Exisiting for the casual tourist.
I love these kind of videos and your knowledge of cinema is impressive!! Also love avgn of course, but keep up the great content.
Videos like this and the cardboard one are amazing I learn such interesting things from these keep making them
Ah... the Ship of Theseus paradox? Surprised it wasn't name dropped.
Except this is a next level Ship of Theseus. Is it still the same ship if it gets repurposed into a house?
Just what I was going to post. Good old paradox that have confounded people for for ages.
In Eastern cultures it doesn't confound anyone, they never have any doubt that it is the same ship.
I am pretty sure you can set up a scenario where it would confound even eastern philosophers. If you do not do away with the whole concept of identity all together that is. Which some do.
StarTsurugi
You're so clever.
well done, very informative. something I never thought about, but found it fascinating. thank you.
These horror movie historical mystery vids are quickly becoming my favorite Cinemassacre videos. Please keep up the great work and keep making more of these. Pleeeeeease!
That last part sounds like something from Vsauce.
Emerica "Hey, Vsauce! James here!"
"Hey Nerdsauce, Angry here!"
"And as always, thanks for watching."
"Where are your fingers?"
Theseus.
Ha, I never noticed that in The Burbs
Positron scoot the burbs
Absolutely loving these videos about Film History, keep them up James!
God, I really love these new kind of videos James is doing. They’re really intriguing and I love the whole mystery and analysis behind them. Just goes to show that the most tiniest bit of trivia can be very entertaining. But I wonder, what should we call these kind of videos? Trivia Tuesdays?
I oddly really like Psycho IV. With Henry Thomas as young Norman. He really nailed it
Here's the coordinates to the house in Haverstraw, NY that's mentioned in this video: 41.1952772,-73.9702087
Words can't express how much I love these videos.
Also reminds me of the Marsden house in Salems Lot. Also a facade.
The 29 Niebolt Street house from "IT" is a facade too...
Nobody came running out with a knife when I took the Universal Studios tour a couple years ago
Norman Bates was in the window (an effect, not an actor) when I went in 2012
When I took the tour twice in the last 10 years, "Norman" came out of the hotel (not the house) carrying Marion, put her in the trunk of his car, and approached the last car in the tram to make people scream. It was fun.
There may have been a Norman cutout but I'm pretty sure the tram we were in never even stopped in front of the house when I went. I remember struggling to get a good picture of it.
Maybe it wasn't part of the tour... just some dude with a knife that James thought was supposed to be Norman
There is a story about jim Carrey going out there with a knife and he wasn't supposed to be there
I live a simple life. I see James, I watch.
Thanks for the most thorough history of the iconic Psycho house and Bates Motel set. So many tourists are led to believe the one on the Universal Studios backlot tour is the original one. After being dismantled and moved from it's original location near Singapore Lake on the backlot in 1980, it has gradually lost it's original connection to Hitchcock's classic, being moved another time and compromised with other movie sets surrounding it in it's latest location. A road for the tram goes right past the front porch of the latest Psycho house model, directly next door to a massive set of plane wreckage, destroyed houses and cars from the remake of War of the Worlds.
We need more videos like these James! They are so fascinating.
You're running into the good old 'Ship of Theseus" paradox, my friend!
So...... if you had a sledge hammer and the handle broke and you replaced it and then years later the actual hammer head cracked in half so you replaced it. Would it still be the same hammer?
Exactly what I thought...
@@im1who84u Depends-- how hammered am I supposed to be?
Naw, in California the house next door to 1313 Mockingbird lane would be either 1311 or 1315.
Same here in PA.
James' documentaries are always so well done and insightful!
I remember driving past the Psycho House back in the very early 1980’s at Universal. Yes, the motel was gone, but that awesome “house” was still there....up on the hill. Creeped me out, and loved it. From what I remember, the tour bus drove right down the street to the “ Leave It To Beaver” house. What a great neighborhood. I could just imagine Wally, the Beav, and Lumpy getting into real trouble when Eddie Haskell dares them to walk up the stairs and knock on the Psycho house front door. “Hey Beav....whadda ya chicken. It’s only an old lady that lives in there”.
How I love this video! Especially the info on the Munsters house, which I've always liked. And you cracked me up so big time at the 4:30 min mark: "Instead of filming somewhere else they f*cked up the whole house!" Stupendous.
I dream of watching you on the H3 Podcast.
I coincidentally just found out about the H3 Podcast today and was thinking the same.
To the Cinemassacre host, there's a closed group on Facebook called Studio Backlots & Ranches. A good many of the people in the group have worked in the industry for many years and are very knowledgeable on the studio backlots and sets. The Psycho house's history has been discussed there. Some of the guys might be able to help you clear up the murky areas of the house's history. What you presented was quite thorough and enjoyable! Learned a few things that I didn't know! I've had a fascination with both the Psycho house and the Munster house for as long as I've lived in SoCal and have been visiting Universal Studios.
Love these videos! So interesting and in depth. Keep up the good work.
"A boy's best friend is his Mother."
The Psycho house was used on the episode Halloween Knight of 80's Knight Rider show!
It was.
I think that was the PSYCHO II house
Those trivias are honestly the best things you ever produced James !
Really love it, we can see that you know your shit.
Looking forward to the next !
This is actually one of my favorite cinemassacre videos in a while. Loved it.
This was an interesting And informative video, I always wondered if it was in fact A real home, and if so was it occupied by real people, thank you so much for sharing the details ☺️🖐️💯 💯.
"We know that Psycho 4..." Wait what, there was more than 1 Psycho movie!?
Agreed. Psycho 2 is a shockingly good film, for what it is
Actually the third one was directed by Perkins, the fourth one was directed by Mick Garris.
Also don't forget the 1987 pilot to Bates Motel.
Theodore Roosevelt Does it even count as a remake? It's basically a coloured version one, just with out the good acting and creepines.
I pretty much felt the same way about the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. Didn't know there were several sequels until I watched James' review of them.
Classic Ship of Theseus situation! Great video.
I was 6 years old when my family drove from Illinois to California for a trip in 1970. The Psycho house was the most memorable sight. 20 years later I moved to the Valley and formed a band. Our drummer's father worked for Universal and aquired a Gibson SG guitar that was used by Michael Nesmith on a Monkees episode. I tried to trade a Les Paul and a Marshall amp for it with zero luck. Had documentation.
I love these kinds of videos James, well done! :)
The Psycho house would be 1311 or 1315 if it was next to the Munsters.
lol funny how quickly James forgot how addresses work
I was thinking the same thing, 1314 would be across the street
Came here for this comment
Or 1317 or 1309... Not all addresses increment or decrement by 2. It depends how many multiples of the smallest lot size a particular property is.
Butch Patrick would play in the Pshyco house when they were not filming The Munsters.
As a kid I remember seeing 1313 Mockingbird Lane and the Psycho houses on the Universal backlot tours (they also had the Red Sea... I digressed). It amazes me how something so iconic on celluoid/digital media can "exist" and then not. Kudos for the correct ID of the location of the Halloween house: we grew up in South Pasadena (incorporated 1888) and many commentors cite Pasadena as the location when that house (which was creepy before and after "Halloween" was filmed) was/is still pretty much smack in the middle of South Pas.
This is fascinating stuff. I work in Haverstraw NY and have driven by that house before on Route 9W and never knew it 's connection to Psycho. That'll be a good fun fact next time I'm driving by that house with somebody!
I’m surprised he didn’t bring up the _Evil Dead_ cabin-
Don't even get me started on that one
Why what happened with that?
@@Dabajaws WHAT HAPPENED TO IT IT'S BEEN 7 MONTHS I NEED TO KNOW
0:45 It's Edward Hopper. You're thinking of Tobe Hooper. No wonder, given the topic. :D
This is incredible content! Thank you James! Knowing these sets have to be destroyed really breaks my heart! :(
Can't get enough of this film historia. Love these videos James!
The Angry Video Game Philosopher
This went pretty vsauce at the end lol
Angry Movie Film Nerd
The Angry Movie Film Philosopher sounds better.
The Angry Movie Film Plato
It all burned down
This is some real 'Ship of Theseus' pondering here, especially right at the end.
Thank you for these videos James, they are super interesting!
Still super super angry about the whole phantom of the opera set being demolished! Fucking Harry Potter.
Yeah, couldn't have anything to do with epic levels of asbestos on the set. Must be Harry Potters fault.
The stage had stuff in it that could kill everyone in the park if it got into in the air and before you ask why they had that in there to begin with, take in when the film was made. The safety measures we have now and the understanding on what's deadly wasn't really there at that time.
Do not get all over defensive about it. I know why they had to demolish it, but it is still a sad thing. And fuck Harry Potter.
Vesa Laine Cursed Child sucks ass I don’t know why they needed a fucking stage play about the shitty book
Vesa Laine I do love HP but the fans say Cursed Child sucks ass. IM GOING TO GO MAKE AN AMINO POLL AND CHECK
Pretty sure these were all sears houses. AKA “Craftsman” houses or at least plans from sears. The parts list and demential list with lengths are listed. Very easy to build and get manufactured cheap from a off site location and shipped in kit form to the stage or lot.
Was expecting a simple video on the Psycho house.
Instead got deep into the ship of thesus paradox. Love these vids.
Please continue doing these. I find them fascinating!
13*15* mockingbird Lane. Addresses are all odd or even on each side of the street.
Err...that's how houses are numbered everywhere in the world...
Get out more?
teppolundgren Nope, we have a Street just up the road from us, the numbers go 1,2,3,4,5,6,7 and 8 next to each other.
+julie Wallis Silence!
Start of the video: "What's up with the psycho house?"
End of the video: "Is your perception of reality accurate?"
I love these movie history vids. Glad you're doing them.
That was such an enjoyable and fascinating video. Thank you so much for making that. Liked and subscribed.
The “Psycho House” was also used in an episode of Knight Rider, called Halloween Knight, in I believe 1985.
And an episode of Murder She Wrote
Ugh! Desperate Housewives ruined cinematic history.
You are a real Horror Encyclopedia. James! Loved the video and the Theseus' paradox ending.
Great video! Thanks for sharing this. Hollywood history is fun, and this video was a blast of knowledge and insight. Have a good week.
Edward HOPPER, not "Hooper." That was "Jaws."
This was cool
I really enjoyed this video. Actually, I enjoy most of your horror movie related videos, but this one is especially fun and curious.
I did enjoy your video on the Psycho house. Well done. Universal Studios is a working movie studio whose sole purpose is to make money and provide a return to their shareholders. They'll capitalize on the public's interest in Psycho and show the house on its tours because they know people want to see it. The house is just a "thing" that's useful for making money. If they have a movie in mind that needs a certain house with a certain look, they'll either build it or remodel an older one.