When I started airsoft, I did the same thing every wankhead does and bought the most expensive version of my favorite gun at the time - a VFC Scar H. Then it broke, so I bought MAXX everything and a tightbore that runs the full length of my suppressor. Then I went to remove the gearbox and learned about the horror that is trying to remove the selectors without losing the loose ball bearings. Then I opened the gearbox and learned about VFC's absolutely smooth-brained idea to use springs instead of shims. I installed the easy bits (the MAXX upgrades) and then shoved the gearbox back in the gun and said "nope, fuck that, I'll just pay a tech to DMR it" and it's sat in the corner of my room for over a year now. I now own four CYMA AK's that have never given me trouble and I can rebuild/upgrade their gearboxes in around an hour (including wank break). Don't buy VFC unless you hate yourself or your local tech.
Buying a VFC 🤔 it’s a bit like going to Sainsbury’s, going up to the store manager and saying “this food all looks good, but have you got any I could buy that is already rotten?”
You are famous now , my co worker who used to work at krytac and kwa said “ have you heard of negative airsoft “ I said yes while fitting my 12th titan that day , we like to watch you for lunch sometimes here at umbrella ! Cheers ! >:)
Just built my first vfc avalon with an aster 13:1 shorted by 2 shs piston and head and cylinder head zci barrel maple leaf rubber lancer tactical 35k high torque motor gate nova trigger the hardest part was taking off the orange metal flash hider. This gun went together with ease. I've stayed away from vfc because of these videos but I got it for a price I couldn't refuse and I'm SO glad it worked out. I am from the US I'd that makes any difference I don't know.
@@southmoreconlin3757 the real question is, how much did you pay for shipping directly from China? I also saw those factory direct sales but the shipping was typically $90-$100+ (at least)
@@marinusdedreu3833 Well, Classic Army has been in the business a LONG TIME. I expect them to continually and repeatedly produce high quality products. APS has their bad name from producing a variety of low quality products and poor performing AEGs. However, some of the new EMG AEGs are manufactured by APS. Maybe APS is upping their quality to try to stay in the game
My Avalon dies after a year of play, but not from a mosfet issue. Mine was the rack on my piston snapped, and we replaced the motor at the same time because it was getting unconfortable hot during semi-only games (and it turns out the housing on the motor was starting to crack)
Y'know, I'm starting to think that my choice of first AEG back when I started this hobby a few years back may have been a poor choice. It was a VFC Scar L.
@@NegativeAirsoftTech I know what my Christmas present to myself is going to be then lol Any easier to install/setup than the titan cus if seen the fun and games you've had with a titan in another video
I'm quite sure that UK market gets some shitty sort of VFC's. Recently I've bought a VFC Avalon CQC from a German online store (it was available only there) in S-AEG version (semi only). I opened the gearbox right away to reshim it, regrease etc... and I had literally nothing to do there other than putting my greases, which I trust more. Shimming and motor height was perfect, I didn't have to change a thing - there were used regular shims - not the spring ones. The gun cycles flawlessly and quiet. Range and accuracy is spot on. The only issue I got was with the trigger unit/MOSFET/disconnector - shortly after I bought it, the gun started to shoot bursts/full auto on semi... But it was before you made that video about being a dick for your gun and spamming on semi :) and that's exactly what I was doing so... it just broke. I installed a Perun Optical MOSFET (what I was planning to do from the very beginning since it was a semi only gun and Perun Optical units are my MOSFETs of choice in all my guns) and have no issues whatsoever. The question is... why does the UK market get the same guns with worse internals?
Thats what I'm thinking at this point. I have 3 avalons and I play with a team that has mostly avalons and krytacs. Gotta say the avalons seem to be snappier and sound better out of the box.
@@fear693872 that'a why I bought a VFC - my teammates use them and they perform well even stock and unmodified. Always watching Negative Airsoft rants on VFC I was wondering why is that a case since in US and many other countries (like Poland where I live) Avalons are considered to be best performing stock guns you can buy.
I sure haven't made the mistake in buying one of these....... ahhh crap, have this to look forward to now 🙃 If only I had found your channel before buying. RIP
Hey dude, great videos, found you about 3 months ago, i have since watched every video you have done. I love your content and no nonsense, straight to the point, tell it how it is attitude. I love tweaking my guns and you helped out a lot with me working out why G&Gs FPS kept dropping and dropping. Anywho, I have just seen Novritsch release his new ssr-15 at a whopping €549 euros. But the bit that caught my eye was that they have all been QC tested by VFC. Wondered what your thoughts were on that being an avid VFC fan an all 🤣
@@DJGuNNax22 my issue was caused by one of the problems je mentioned in a recent video inhad bought a new madbull compression kit. The nozzle was the problem so swapped back to the original nozzle and jobs done. For some reason as well, i had to run a higher than normal spring. G&G apparently put m110-120s in stock from what reddit was saying how much of that is true is beyond me. But i put a 120 in and the fps stabilised.
I have the last generation of good vfc 416cqb it has lasted 6 years with a 11.1 lipo it was starting to whine and It was time for a full rebuild. Now a few months we will see the results.
What’s even more awkward is an avid watcher of this channel and to find out novritsch’s new ssr15 gearbox shell is VFC and possibly other parts may be internally , makes me slightly die inside :(
Alessio Cos go to novritsch official website and go to academy , his tech has a disassembly and assembly video on it , you can clearly see it’s a stock vfc gearbox. Even if you go to purchase the gearbox shell on his site it’s got engraved vfc on it if you zoom in.
@@DJGuNNax22 Hahaha! No way! I'm gonna check it, lol. My friend and I thought initially that it was going to be made by Krytac... But VFC makes sense too. It's going to be the apex of overpricing.... Novritsch + VFC 😂
@@SymonDiamond i have a cyma with a better barrel, piston, and airseal redone by Belgium's finest tech (and my team's sponsor, my endorsement is not related lol). It already performs pretty good. Now I just need to get better at the game and perhaps avoid the bushes in Chambers, where the HPA snipers have their ceremonial circlejerk.
Do you ever take work for the US? I've been looking at getting some work done on my LCT AKM its 4 years old now and in need of some gear box TLC and I dont trust myself to do it.
Negitive do you rate them titan batteries. Ive brought myself a cyma XM177e2 il run it for a bit and my want you to tart it around if ok with you old bean
@@opairsoft8100 thats a waste of money then but im only wanting my gun to last and not to be a hose like what most folk want these days just be happy with an extra 4 rps and better response on single shot.
@@opairsoft8100 I actually have gotten good effects out of both the titan batteries and the valken li ion batteries, they last forever on ssg setups and the discharge is just enough to get a good rps for your setup.
Type o negative remix Nice fun fact my cousins wife meet Peter Steele before he passed away I am just now getting in to them I very much enjoy them so far.
Had the new 416a5, changed out everything except the vfc gearbox itself... then the spring guide shot out the back of the buffer tube. I've never seen a gearbox break in the rear like that. Totally convinced me vfc is garbage
I noticed when assembling a couple avalons that the spring guide has a tough time staying straight. The lips on the spring guide are not very beefy. Not a very good design.
The problem with the vfc Avalon is they have "self shilling gears". That's notnwhatbthey do. Whatvtheybdonisbtheybruin your gun. They have always been known to do more harm than good. I guarantee if they just did a basic shim job instead of using these gears, the guns would lastmfar longer. A gun with no shims probably lasts longer.
pretty much sums up my experience when doing alot of Tech work for sites... normally starts with FOR FUCKS SAKE HOW DID YOU MANGE THAT! (one guys SR25 exploded his gearbox, then blamed me that i had bent his metal piston with a hammer so id have to replace it to charge him for the part)
Avalon in the USA works fine. Yet in the UK they are crap. I think they need to redo their quality control there. It took 4 years for my vfc 416 mine to die before it got a rebuild. Vfc get your shit together
Do you know what I have right here in my room right now? A VFC Avalon with no trigger response. Fucking 500€ gun that stops working after like 2 months. So glad I bought an E&C 416 and upgraded it, never looking back.
I like you to look at novritsch channel and let. Me know if i should buy his ssr15. Before I spend $573 on his gun and let me know if it's worth while and the money??
I am 45 seconds into watching this , and effing pi$$ing myself I’m glad I can’t afford to spunk money on a VFC , and just buy cheap JG stuff that gives me no hassles (well that and a Krytac, but I’m not boasting as that will surely shit itself one day soon too )
I've never had a problem with vfc...
...cause I never have nor will purchase one
What's the best one to buy
@@davidp4270 cyma plat, specna arms edge, or mas marauder/blackout. bottom line- not a vfc.
@@anthony-ob6lw specna arms??? Are you fucking sure of what youre sayin my friend has a specna the fucking gearbox shell broke after 8 months
Everyone’s going for high trigger response builds while I’m going for that no trigger response build
When I started airsoft, I did the same thing every wankhead does and bought the most expensive version of my favorite gun at the time - a VFC Scar H. Then it broke, so I bought MAXX everything and a tightbore that runs the full length of my suppressor. Then I went to remove the gearbox and learned about the horror that is trying to remove the selectors without losing the loose ball bearings. Then I opened the gearbox and learned about VFC's absolutely smooth-brained idea to use springs instead of shims. I installed the easy bits (the MAXX upgrades) and then shoved the gearbox back in the gun and said "nope, fuck that, I'll just pay a tech to DMR it" and it's sat in the corner of my room for over a year now.
I now own four CYMA AK's that have never given me trouble and I can rebuild/upgrade their gearboxes in around an hour (including wank break). Don't buy VFC unless you hate yourself or your local tech.
Eventually you will have the power to single handedly take down VFC
Buying a VFC 🤔 it’s a bit like going to Sainsbury’s, going up to the store manager and saying “this food all looks good, but have you got any I could buy that is already rotten?”
and then they charge you more for it.
You are famous now , my co worker who used to work at krytac and kwa said “ have you heard of negative airsoft “ I said yes while fitting my 12th titan that day , we like to watch you for lunch sometimes here at umbrella ! Cheers ! >:)
thanks for another great vid dude . been in lockdown for 5 months now🤣🤣your channel is really all thats been keeping me busy
@Gaius Julius Caesar its cause i have a passion for the sport / hobby .
Just built my first vfc avalon with an aster 13:1 shorted by 2 shs piston and head and cylinder head zci barrel maple leaf rubber lancer tactical 35k high torque motor gate nova trigger the hardest part was taking off the orange metal flash hider. This gun went together with ease. I've stayed away from vfc because of these videos but I got it for a price I couldn't refuse and I'm SO glad it worked out. I am from the US I'd that makes any difference I don't know.
I've found that Classic Army's mid-tier stuff is more reliable out of the box than VFC's stuff around the Avalon price range. Weird.
@@southmoreconlin3757 the real question is, how much did you pay for shipping directly from China? I also saw those factory direct sales but the shipping was typically $90-$100+ (at least)
@@omarrod71 same here
Yeah Classic Army is pretty good, I've been impressed with every one of their guns I own. Same with APS which has a bad name for some reason
@@marinusdedreu3833 Well, Classic Army has been in the business a LONG TIME. I expect them to continually and repeatedly produce high quality products. APS has their bad name from producing a variety of low quality products and poor performing AEGs. However, some of the new EMG AEGs are manufactured by APS. Maybe APS is upping their quality to try to stay in the game
How did you fix the wobbly fire selector?
What do you normally do to fix the wobbly ambi selector on VFCs? Other than not buying VFC in the first place. My buddy has the same issue.
How do you fix the ambi selector and will it work on my Krytac?
My Avalon dies after a year of play, but not from a mosfet issue. Mine was the rack on my piston snapped, and we replaced the motor at the same time because it was getting unconfortable hot during semi-only games (and it turns out the housing on the motor was starting to crack)
The new VFC are 90% quieter than previous guns...
They've never had a VFC returned because people like to send them to you.
What is the stock motor speed in vfc calibur? 18k?
When you buy a VFC you are buying a polarstar body
VFCs are great guns
And other jokes you can tell yourself
So... You wouldn't recommend vfc then?
I own VFC for almost an year, and yes it broke after my very first game.
What Type O remix is that you've put in the background?
Y'know, I'm starting to think that my choice of first AEG back when I started this hobby a few years back may have been a poor choice.
It was a VFC Scar L.
You took an L
@@TehSuperWaffle3000 HA!
Newest Novritsch gun is basically an upgraded VFC... with a Gate Titan.
How long will we have to wait until you fix one of those?
My titan has been fine, but then again my titan is in a marui recoil
what do you think of the gate aster is it worth the upgrade? im looking at putting one in my krytac lvoa i hate how long the trigger pull is on it
Much more reliable than the V2 titan
@@NegativeAirsoftTech I know what my Christmas present to myself is going to be then lol
Any easier to install/setup than the titan cus if seen the fun and games you've had with a titan in another video
What spring power for that setup?
Do you have problems when you pair a warfet with a titain batery?
I'm quite sure that UK market gets some shitty sort of VFC's.
Recently I've bought a VFC Avalon CQC from a German online store (it was available only there) in S-AEG version (semi only). I opened the gearbox right away to reshim it, regrease etc... and I had literally nothing to do there other than putting my greases, which I trust more. Shimming and motor height was perfect, I didn't have to change a thing - there were used regular shims - not the spring ones. The gun cycles flawlessly and quiet. Range and accuracy is spot on. The only issue I got was with the trigger unit/MOSFET/disconnector - shortly after I bought it, the gun started to shoot bursts/full auto on semi... But it was before you made that video about being a dick for your gun and spamming on semi :) and that's exactly what I was doing so... it just broke. I installed a Perun Optical MOSFET (what I was planning to do from the very beginning since it was a semi only gun and Perun Optical units are my MOSFETs of choice in all my guns) and have no issues whatsoever.
The question is... why does the UK market get the same guns with worse internals?
Thats what I'm thinking at this point. I have 3 avalons and I play with a team that has mostly avalons and krytacs. Gotta say the avalons seem to be snappier and sound better out of the box.
@@fear693872 that'a why I bought a VFC - my teammates use them and they perform well even stock and unmodified. Always watching Negative Airsoft rants on VFC I was wondering why is that a case since in US and many other countries (like Poland where I live) Avalons are considered to be best performing stock guns you can buy.
I sure haven't made the mistake in buying one of these....... ahhh crap, have this to look forward to now 🙃
If only I had found your channel before buying. RIP
when I saw "no trigger response" I thought it mean like, instant trigger response, saw "VFC", reread title, now I understand :D
Hey dude, great videos, found you about 3 months ago, i have since watched every video you have done. I love your content and no nonsense, straight to the point, tell it how it is attitude. I love tweaking my guns and you helped out a lot with me working out why G&Gs FPS kept dropping and dropping. Anywho, I have just seen Novritsch release his new ssr-15 at a whopping €549 euros. But the bit that caught my eye was that they have all been QC tested by VFC. Wondered what your thoughts were on that being an avid VFC fan an all 🤣
Is there a video reference that you watched for the G&G FPS drops , I’m experiencing the same problems and it only ever happens with G&G’s?
@@DJGuNNax22 my issue was caused by one of the problems je mentioned in a recent video inhad bought a new madbull compression kit. The nozzle was the problem so swapped back to the original nozzle and jobs done. For some reason as well, i had to run a higher than normal spring. G&G apparently put m110-120s in stock from what reddit was saying how much of that is true is beyond me. But i put a 120 in and the fps stabilised.
What do you think about SSR 15 from Novritsch?
I have the last generation of good vfc 416cqb it has lasted 6 years with a 11.1 lipo it was starting to whine and It was time for a full rebuild. Now a few months we will see the results.
What’s even more awkward is an avid watcher of this channel and to find out novritsch’s new ssr15 gearbox shell is VFC and possibly other parts may be internally , makes me slightly die inside :(
Hi! Can you point me to the video where I can see the gearbox?
Alessio Cos go to novritsch official website and go to academy , his tech has a disassembly and assembly video on it , you can clearly see it’s a stock vfc gearbox. Even if you go to purchase the gearbox shell on his site it’s got engraved vfc on it if you zoom in.
@@DJGuNNax22 Hahaha! No way! I'm gonna check it, lol. My friend and I thought initially that it was going to be made by Krytac... But VFC makes sense too. It's going to be the apex of overpricing.... Novritsch + VFC 😂
This is why I build my aegs from scratch.
sy the guy I just buy cyma. Cheap and it last forever
@@sterkriger2572 good base to build from.
@@SymonDiamond i have a cyma with a better barrel, piston, and airseal redone by Belgium's finest tech (and my team's sponsor, my endorsement is not related lol). It already performs pretty good. Now I just need to get better at the game and perhaps avoid the bushes in Chambers, where the HPA snipers have their ceremonial circlejerk.
@@robertstan9733 🤣🤣🤣 hpa snipers!
@@SymonDiamond i'm pretty new to airsoft, what's funny about it? Is it unusual for a sniper to run hpa?
I bought a vfc samurai edge, love the gun but I had the thing for about a month, used it once and the spring guide broke
If you loved it more, it wouldn't beat you.
How can I get mine to you and how much?
Do you ever take work for the US? I've been looking at getting some work done on my LCT AKM its 4 years old now and in need of some gear box TLC and I dont trust myself to do it.
It will be WAY too expensive for you to ship + pay the tech . Just go to a local tech
Came for the tinkering, stayed for the brutal opinions.
are those titan batteries any good?
Negative: "Uuuuuuuahhh"
Me : " Nah, nah, nah, NAAH!"
😆👍
Only VFC could release an MP7 that costs over 400€ and breaks in three mags.
"eeeeehhh.....eeehhhh"
Negitive do you rate them titan batteries.
Ive brought myself a cyma XM177e2 il run it for a bit and my want you to tart it around if ok with you old bean
Titans are only good for stock guns really. Stupidly low amp output
@@opairsoft8100 thats a waste of money then but im only wanting my gun to last and not to be a hose like what most folk want these days just be happy with an extra 4 rps and better response on single shot.
they are more capacity over output.
@@opairsoft8100 I actually have gotten good effects out of both the titan batteries and the valken li ion batteries, they last forever on ssg setups and the discharge is just enough to get a good rps for your setup.
@@46templar i got the 7000mah one for my krytac lvoa if you want a battery to last all weekend and then some buy one
This is me but with G&G Combat Machines and their awesome cheese switches.
TYPE O NEGATIVE!!
HEY WOLF MOON(remix)
FUCK!! YEAH!!
Type o negative remix Nice fun fact my cousins wife meet Peter Steele before he passed away I am just now getting in to them I very much enjoy them so far.
I managed to see them at their final show in London before Peter passed away
I have a Type O tat on my right wrist - it pops up in vids every so often
@@NegativeAirsoftTech Very Nice.
@@NegativeAirsoftTech Do you know the band Impaler by chance?
Shitty stock Mosfets are a plague on airsoft, they always break within a few thousand shots.
Type O Negative, a man of culture
(Type O) Negative Airsoft 🤔
Idk why I cannot put a mosfet into a gun for some reason and it is not that I cannot physically access it I just can't get it to work
WOW vfc so good AlL yOu haVE tO Do iS fIX It WhEN YOu bUY IT
Ah yes, vfc is the best brand
Hello negative,
What do you think of the slong hop untis?
When you were showing off your gun collection you were saying you love VFCs but here you're saying you hate them, is it VFC you hate or the Avalons?
I think it's more of a "I love the aesthetics of a VFC, but I fucking hate the insides"
@@AlcoholicJesus69 ^this
I’ve built 1 and only 1 vfc, but the only thing vfc that is left is the upper and lower receiver. I refuse to work of them otherwise.
Had the new 416a5, changed out everything except the vfc gearbox itself... then the spring guide shot out the back of the buffer tube. I've never seen a gearbox break in the rear like that. Totally convinced me vfc is garbage
Had the same thing happen but the spring guide broke on me
I noticed when assembling a couple avalons that the spring guide has a tough time staying straight. The lips on the spring guide are not very beefy. Not a very good design.
The problem with the vfc Avalon is they have "self shilling gears". That's notnwhatbthey do. Whatvtheybdonisbtheybruin your gun. They have always been known to do more harm than good. I guarantee if they just did a basic shim job instead of using these gears, the guns would lastmfar longer. A gun with no shims probably lasts longer.
pretty much sums up my experience when doing alot of Tech work for sites... normally starts with FOR FUCKS SAKE HOW DID YOU MANGE THAT! (one guys SR25 exploded his gearbox, then blamed me that i had bent his metal piston with a hammer so id have to replace it to charge him for the part)
Just wait for all the SSR15's you're gonna get in the shop
na cus they will go to nov first to get it done for free or nov team will tell them how to fix it
I mean they are being assembled and QC'd by VFC, so it should be fun...
@@AlcoholicJesus69 when I saw that I was like God no
Avalon in the USA works fine. Yet in the UK they are crap. I think they need to redo their quality control there. It took 4 years for my vfc 416 mine to die before it got a rebuild. Vfc get your shit together
Do you know what I have right here in my room right now? A VFC Avalon with no trigger response. Fucking 500€ gun that stops working after like 2 months. So glad I bought an E&C 416 and upgraded it, never looking back.
Yup
Fucking Type O in the background! then its a remix..
After hearing the song I finally get why you are called negative airsoft and have a green logo.
Ahaha is that wolf moon by type O. Fucking love type o
Yeah that gun is really ugly
Should we all be using deans on our batteries?
Fucking brilliant
When Q&A?
what does vfc stand for
Ok.... Hopefully rumored psg-1 gbbr from them won't so royally and utterly fucked out the box
ive had alot of issues with my vfc... couldnt be fucked with it anymore and p* single locked it
Maybe you see so many because it's a very popular gun but I could be wrong
good song !
I like you to look at novritsch channel and let. Me know if i should buy his ssr15. Before I spend $573 on his gun and let me know if it's worth while and the money??
Mate, it's being assembled and QC'd by VFC, so take a browse through the channel...
So the trigger doesn’t respond at all lol
Type o negative, nice.
I used mine for one day and this happens to it
I am 45 seconds into watching this , and effing pi$$ing myself
I’m glad I can’t afford to spunk money on a VFC , and just buy cheap JG stuff that gives me no hassles
(well that and a Krytac, but I’m not boasting as that will surely shit itself one day soon too )
Vfc ? Or G&G? Or Specna Arms?? Choose 1!! Haa
G&G all day
Vfc is straight garbage blown so many mosfets. I usually drop in gg mosfets and trigger units. Drops in
Me mosfet burn in vfc avalon calibur cqc now use perun optical it's great
*Trigger Warning*
vfc stands for verified freaking crap
No it’s krytac
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