God is Irrelevant: Discuss by John Lennox (Official Recording)
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- God is Irrelevant: Discuss - Prof. John Lennox (Oxford University, UK)
Big Idea Lecture at HKU
7pm, Monday 9 September 2013.
Humans once found solace from a universe of things that could not be explained with a myriad of gods that thundered from above. This idea was later refined to say that a single God was in charge of the world. Today science points the way to unlocking the mysteries of the natural world around us. God is therefore obsolete, rendered irrelevant. (But is this true?)
John Lennox is Professor of Mathematics in the University of Oxford, Fellow in Mathematics and the Philosophy of Science, and Pastoral Advisor at Green Templeton College, Oxford. He is also an adjunct Lecturer at Wycliffe Hall, Oxford University and at the Oxford Centre for Christian Apologetics and is a Senior Fellow of the Trinity Forum. In addition, he teaches for the Oxford Strategic Leadership Programme at the Executive Education Centre, Said Business School, Oxford University.
John Lennox has written a number of books exploring topics relating to science, faith and theology, including God's Undertaker: Has Science Buried God? (2007), God and Stephen Hawking: Whose Design is it Anyway? (2011), Seven Days that Divide the World (2011), and Gunning for God: Why the New Atheists are Missing the Target (2011).
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"I can't prove my wife loves me, but I'd stake my life on it..." made me weep.
Great man with a great talk. He said once he attended C.S. Lewis lecture and cannot be compared to him. I read all C.S. Lewis books and many of J.Lennox online sessions… This man is a genius of simple articulations to embrace the Christ as Lord ans Savior, and especially our Judge at the time of judgement. HalleluYah. Thank you John Lennox
Our LORD, GOD and SAVIOUR did create the simplest fabric (H²O) to sustain all of life here on earth.
Just as the Jordan and the Euphrates are made of this fabric, so to also are the Bow and the ELbow.
🌱LIFE IS BUT A VAPOUR (H²O)🌹
HOLY BIBLE
Habakkuk 3:9
Thy bow was made quite naked (bare),
according to the oaths of the tribes
(oaths were sworn over your arrows),
even thy word, Selah.
Thou didst cleave (divided) the earth
with rivers.
🙌ALLELUIA🙌
A-men' 🌿
Do you understand Lennox, let the judgment go.
@@michaelart4878😅😊🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉😂🎉😊😊😢
he can talk, i'll give you that, but it's twaddle. you aren't listening if you think anything he says is clever, it's not.
@@HarryNicNicholas That's right!
You might dispute what he is arguing but this man speaks in a logical manner with relevant information that should be emanated by more people. He is a modern day C. S. Lewis in terms of combining intelligence with logic. He didn't show any negativism or anger during the Q & A. His humility is something to be admired.
Thank God-who-exists for John Lennox!
Atheistic materialism is self-refuting.
I love to see someone so confident in their knowledge of that which is unknowable.
he is of absolute materialistic point view but what about idealism. is idealism irrelevant?
❤Any i believe in God and jesus
Idont Bellieve in your crap b s nonsence😅
John Lennox is a warrior for God and ambassador for His kingdom..listen to him.
I am so blessed by hearing Prof. John Lennox lecture. Thank you.
you are blessed that whilst you worship yourself God buries the most vulnerable under the tools of the abortion industry. Would you think it worth to die from natural disaster than from the selfish decisions of other humans or is your brain too small for that. If you think small children's death makes God look so much more a monster go to the smallest. Sure the death of the old lady would matter less to a pea brained.
fourteatwo
Kindly repeat that in ENGLISH, Miss.☝️
@@TheWorldTeacher cohesive argument is a non-fourte forteatwo
It's easy to bless you whatever that means
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He truly is an "instrument" of the living God.... His explanation are broken down for everyone to understand. Thank God for Dr. John Lennox... he has my greatest respect.
do you know, what LI-V(U)-ING GOD really defines?
LI comes from LEE, it is the language or LInguistic product, what comes from the heart, forms the earth, hrough our emotionally spoken words! And when do you have the most high power? When someone comes and want to take your life? Or if you lay down on the couch or sit on a chair, and speak about beliefes and faith and do nochting against corruption - what means CORE-ROBB-CHAYENNE(SION-SHINE-SCIENCE) - that someones heart or core of actions.......... more of informations you can find on my channel.
Weird. Here I thought the deity of christians was supposed to break down its ideas for everyone to understand.
Paco Hantos
Are you a THEIST? 🤔
If so, what are the reasons for your BELIEF in God? 🤓
sirilay
🐟 07. GOD (OR NOT):
There has never been, nor will there ever be, even the slightest shred of evidence for the existence of the Godhead, that is, a Supreme Person, for the notion of an omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent Deity is both profoundly illogical and extremely incongruous, to put it mildly.
The English word “PERSON” literally means “for sound”, originating from the Latin/Greek “persona/prósōpa”, referring to the masks worn by actors in ancient European theatrical plays, which featured a mouth hole to enable the actors to speak through. Theists, by definition, believe that there is a Supreme Deity which incorporates anthropomorphic characteristics such as corporeal form (even if that form is a “spiritual” body, whatever that may connote), with a face (hence the term “person”), and certain personality traits such as unique preferences and aversions. Common sense dictates that Ultimate Reality must necessarily transcend all concepts, including personality and even impersonality. However, only an excruciatingly minute number of humans have ever grasped this complete understanding and realization.
There are at least FOUR possible reasons why many persons are convinced of the existence of a Supreme Personal God:
1. Because it is natural for any sensible person to believe that humans may not be the pinnacle of existence, and that there must be a higher power or ultimate creative force (an intelligent designer). However, because they cannot conceive of this designer being non-personal, they automatically suspect it must be a man (God) or a woman (The Goddess) with personal attributes. One who is truly awakened and/or enlightened understands that the Universal Self is the creator of all experiences and that he IS that (“tat tvam asi”, in Sanskrit).
2. Because they may have experienced some kind of mystical phenomenon or miracle, which they mistakenly attribute to “God's grace”, but which can be more logically explicated by another means. As explained, all such phenomena are produced by the TRUE Self of all selves (“Paramātman”, in Sanskrit). I, the author of this Holy Scripture, have personally experienced very powerful, miraculous, mystical phenomena, which I formerly ascribed to the personal conception of God (since I was a Theist), but now know to be caused, ultimately, by the Real Self.
3. Because they may have witnessed the deeds or read the words of an individual who seems to be a perfect person - in other words an incarnation of the Divine Principle (“Avatāra”, in Sanskrit). To be sure, such persons do exist, but that does not necessarily prove that the Supreme Truth is PERSONAL. An Avatar is a man who was born fully enlightened, with all noble qualities, but not necessarily perfect in every possible way. For example, very few (if any) of the recognized Avatars in human history taught or practiced veganism.
4. Because they may have been CONDITIONED by their family, society and/or religious organization over many years or decades. Unfortunately, we humans are very gullible. Due to low intelligence and lack of critical analytical skills, the typical person believes almost anything they read or hear from virtually any source. During a visit to one's local place of worship on any given weekend, one will notice a congregation of sheepish individuals nodding in agreement with practically every nonsensical, inane word spouted by their deluded so-called “priest”, imam, mullah, rabbi, guru, monk, or preacher. Even the current World Teacher, despite his genius intellect, was once a thoroughly-indoctrinated religious fundamentalist, before he awoke to a definitive understanding of life.
Having stated the above, the worship of the Personal Deity (“bhakti yoga”, in Sanskrit), is a legitimate spiritual path for the masses. However, the most ACCURATE understanding is monistic or non-dual (“advaita”, in Sanskrit). If one wishes to be even more pedantic, the ultimate understanding is beyond even the concept of nonduality, as the famous South Indian sage, Śri Ramana Maharishi, once so rightly proclaimed.
As an aside or adjunct, it seems that virtually every religious organization, particularly those originating in Bhārata (India), claims to have been founded by an Avatar, but that’s simply wishful thinking on the part of their congregations. Only a great sage or World Teacher can POSSIBLY recognize an enlightened being, what to speak of an Incarnation of the Divine. The typical spiritual aspirant, even one who may seem to be a highly-exalted practitioner, has very little idea of what constitutes actual holiness. Frankly speaking, many famous (infamous?) religious leaders were some of the most vile and contemptible characters in human history, particularly in this Epoch of Darkness (“Kali Yuga”, in Sanskrit).
“God is greater than God.”
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“Where there is Isness, there God is. Creation is the giving of isness from God. That is why God becomes where any creature expresses God.”
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“Theologians may quarrel, but the mystics of the world speak the same language.”
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“There is something in the soul that is so akin to God that it is one with Him... It has nothing in common with anything created.”
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“The knower and the known are one. Simple people imagine that they should see God as if he stood there and they here. This is not so. God and I, we are one in knowledge.”
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“The eye through which I see God is the same eye through which God sees me; my eye and God's eye are one eye, one seeing, one knowing, one love.”
Eckhart von Hochheim O.P. (AKA Meister Eckhart) ,
German Roman Catholic Priest.
“God is merely one of man's concepts, a symbol used for pointing the way, to the Ultimate Reality, which has been mistaken for the Reality itself.
The map has been mistaken for the actual territory.”
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“Worshippers may derive some sort of satisfaction or peace of mind, through worship of a concept such as God (created by themselves), but it is a futile process, from the viewpoint of experiencing one's true nature.”
Ramesh Balsekar,
Indian Spiritual Teacher.
Thank you John for sharing the truth with such logic and compassion. ‘You shall know the truth and the truth will set you free.’
says a "gr0wn up" with an invisibIe, imaginary friend
@@ob2249 Your comment would be true, if there was no God. But, if there is a God, and the Bible reveals Him to us, we would do well to listen, and follow Him.
@@scottm4042
the bibIe is a viIe b00k
describing y0ur invisibIe man in a br0nze aged w0rId with a br0nze aged mind set and br0nze aged m0raIity
he is unaware, apparentIy that gen0cide is imm0raI
he`s aIs0 a baby murderer acc0rding t0 his 0wn w0rd
he d0esnt seem t0 understand sIavery is aIs0 imm0raI, d0 y0u ?
0r are y0u g0ing t0 d0 that disgusting imm0raI dance s0me christians d0 and try t0 defend bibIicaI sIavery as s0meh0w n0t siIvery ?
the b00k is s0 inc0nsistent, c0ntradict0ry and fuII 0f ancient garbage it is IaughabIe
n0 0ne kn0ws wh0 wr0te the g0speIs
and what ab0ut I0t`s daughters ??!!!
y0u must reaIize when y0u reach f0r the bibIe, in t0days s0ciety, y0u are iIIustrating h0w guIIibIe y0u are because y0u have t0 beIieve every n0nsensicaI st0ry
if y0u wiII beIieve the bibIe y0u wiII beIieve anything
lol, it's not truth it's mythology.
Jesus told those who believed in him that if they would continue in his word they would be his diaciples indeed and you shall know the truth and the truth will awt you free.
Belief iin Jesus Cheist is key to being a diaciple of Christ as well as knowing the truth that aets you free.
🌹What a wonderful talk John Lennox gave. May God's message come through and save many lives.🌹Blessings to HKU for this program.
What is moral or ethical about suggesting people go about with one foot in fantasyland? Any deity, outside of fiction, unknown to everyone, is a deity fudging the title. That is obvious. The spiritual are full of spiritual words, having no meaning outside of fiction. If god were real & did not have a perfect record of doing nothing, we would not have the saying: God helps those helping themselves. Faith without works is dead. Faith is worthless. If you had the smallest amount, you could say move to mountain, and the thing would move by magic.
@@Stupidityindex "The spiritual are full of spiritual words, having no meaning outside of fiction." Nonsense.
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@Stupidityindex 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
@Stupidityindex 😊😊😊😊😊😊😊😊
God is relevant in every single aspect of everything in existence from before the beginning to far beyond the end.
Thank you.
May the LORD give us understanding.
Great reply be mightily blessed and keep the faith ; I'm glad !
@@J_a_s_o_n😊
@@J_a_s_o_nWhich one. There are many gods and beliefs. How do u know yours is the right one.
@@cmontes7961
because the bibIe teIIs then s0
A fantastic lesson to us all , he speaks from the heart and not his wallet, he’s taught me to be more attentive to the life that God has given me .
As though he she or it existed?
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There's a saying in common usage in the British army it goes, 'Bullshit baffles brains' , the poor bloke is even turning this nonsense on himself, it looks very much like successful childhood indoctrination to me. @@ceciboakyeyiadom2521
lennox is a bumbling old fool who should know better. and he lies to you all.
I am so glad RUclips sent this my way. I love it
Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy Name,
thy kingdom come,
thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those
who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom,
and the power, and the glory,
for ever and ever. Amen.
Our LORD, GOD and SAVIOUR did create the simplest fabric (H²O) to sustain all of life here on earth.
Just as the Jordan and the Euphrates are made of this fabric, so to also are the Bow and the ELbow.
🌱LIFE IS BUT A VAPOUR (H²O)🌹
HOLY BIBLE
Habakkuk 3:9
Thy bow was made quite naked (bare),
according to the oaths of the tribes
(oaths were sworn over your arrows),
even thy word, Selah.
Thou didst cleave (divided) the earth
with rivers.
🙌ALLELUIA🙌
A-men' 🌿
IN earth, not "ON Earth".
In our earthen bodies....
Thy will be done in us ! 📖 kjv
we really needed to be reminded of your finger crossing superstition mate.
Amen
@@nickroberts-xf7oq
REVELATION 3:21
To him that overcometh
will I grant to sit with me in (on) my
throne, even as I also overcame,
and am set down with my Father
in (on) his throne.
💘
What a wonderful session with Professor John Lennox of Oxford...Hope all these young people find Jesus Christ as their savior and Lord. I was able to teach ESL in China for 14 years. During my time at the universities and colleges, I had about 5,000 students. They all knew I was a Christian, I believe...anyway, I was able to share the Gospel with many of them who became close friends. The Chinese young people i had were excellent students and many became good friends. John 3:16
jesus r0se, s0 what did g0d sacrifice ?
a weekend ?
he gave his 0nIy beg0tten s0n ? t0 wh0m
he is n0t sacrificing much f0r a super 0mnip0tent 0mniscient aII p0werfuI being
y0u have been f00Ied int0 beIieving s0mething was sacrificed f0r y0u, died f0r y0ur sin,
yet he r0se fr0m the dead ??!!!
tricked int0 f0II0wing an invisibIe man wh0 hates h0m0sexuaIs and f0reskin
just Iike a br0nze aged g0at herder w0uId
I must say, this is one of my favorite talks given by Dr. Lennox. The Chinese certainly seem to be more open to the topics than Westerners, as far as I can tell... but that's just me.
I don't think the Chinese government are!
@@michaelmiller7538not now that HK has become rule by the CCP
wow, definitely just you
2:44 😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅😅ooo
@@garycrp9823 straight is the gate and narrow is the way
Faith does not come by discoveries but by revelation. Faith is the evidence if things not seen and the substance of things hoped for...
Blessed are those who believed and yet not see...
Amen 🙏
And still i beleive God let things be reveiled by His people as stated in proverbs 25:2
Asolutely BRILLIANT! Thank-you so much Professor John Lennox for your dedication and love for all people.
The story of Jesus Christ, it about 2,000 year's old or so. Those that preach against God ,do so because he's real and they know he is! You wouldn't waste your time talking about a 2,000 year old story otherwise!
And the fact that people are still talking about Jesus Christ, says a lot, his life story as our Savior continues to be told!❤🎉🕊️🙏🏻🪻🪷🪻🕊️💜
@@stardustgirl2904AMEN!!! Meaning you're not just stardust.... Girl!!! You are made in the image of GOD! All Glory and Honor be to our GREAT GOD and SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST WHO Already paid in full for ALL your sins, past, present, and future, and if you don't have anymore sins to pay for, where do you go after this life? Colossians 2 13-14!
@@stardustgirl2904 gods are all imaginary, lennox is actually a liar, he misrepresents science to suit the purpose of being a bully enabler, thankfully religion is dying because of the lies people like lennox have be telling. and you are not very bright.
God bless you John Lennox, for He has truly given you a brilliant mind and greater than that He has saved you, and He is using you in a mighty way
Amen ! 🙏
This man is a true man of Faith.
Faith is trusting in God's
'Grace and expresses itself in acts of Love.
God bless this man and the fruit of the Holy Spirit is seen so plainly in this man.
expIain where the h0Iy spirit is "pIainIy " visibIe in this guIIibIe 0Id man
it seems t0 me y0u are sp0uting trigger w0rds that are meaningIess
what is c0nsidered an act 0f I0ve in the c0ntext 0f Ienny`s taIk
aIs0 expIain "a true man 0f faith"
it impIies there are men wh0 are n0t true men 0f faith
s0 h0w d0es yer bad ass seIf kn0w "true faith"
quite a cIaim f0r a man wh0 has an invisibIe man friend
faith is beIieving s0mething 0n bad evidence
he truly is, makes crap up and people worship him for it, a true christian.
Dr. John Lennox, one of my favorite speakers.
I found this a highly unbiased lecture that any one with an open mind can listen to. Am highly blessed.
hahahhahaha unbiased - from a christian. are you nutty?
@@HarryNicNicholasyeah, John is not unbiased, however no one is truly unbiased. Even atheists whom I've spoken to though they claim to be unbiased, are completely biased.
I was an agnostic atheist but became a Christian 2 years ago and I couldn't be happier.
The q&a session was great. I like the way John drills right down to the heart of the questions. No side-stepping or babling non-answers.
he just talks nonsense instead. you religists really have a hard time using that super computer between your ears, lennox is a fool.
@mikebetts2046 Christopher Hitchens was the MASTER of side-stepping and avoiding direct answers!
Brilliant lecture! Really enjoyed watching this.
Prof. John Lennox is the walking proof that science and Christian faith don't conflict each other, on the contrary.
Thanks for uploading!
apart from people not coming back from the dead, snakes not talking, donkeys not talking, the creation narrative being wrong in the bible, and a thousand other things, science is totally compatible with superstition - if you say so.
@@HarryNicNicholas Everyone of those things are Nothing for an Almighty God to do. If He were no more powerful than you or me, I don't think I'd be able to believe He's THE all powerful God Who knows all, Who sees all & is omnipresent, being everywhere at once. I feel for you,, for when You DO see Him, you'll cry out in terror. The Bible is God's Word of Salvation, it's Truth & still the most purchased book on the face of the earth! Open your ears & heart ❣
The Bible says that the earth was round way before the flat-earthers showed up. Also, it was the church who encouraged early scientists to use their churches' top structures to view & learn of the stars and it was the church that pressed for hospitals & schools. All the scientists in the world cannot come close to the God of creation, the all-knowing Real Scientist.
@@alexandraasbury9974
I feeI f0r y0u
y0u are presumabIy an "aduIt"
yet y0u need an invisibIe imaginary man t0 make y0u behave ??! shame
can y0u dem0nstrate h0w y0ur imaginary friend is m0re p0werfuI than y0urseIf ?
0r d0es the saIes figures 0f the bibIe dem0nstrate that ?
why d0 y0u feeI the need t0 threaten pe0pIe with y0ur invisibIe man ?
and why w0uId he feeI terr0r fr0m what christians cIaim is a I0ving g0d ?
This is so powerful analogy of what Christianity is and what it's not. Thank you, Prof. Lennox.
Psalm 19:1 The heavens declare the glory of God; the skies proclaim the work of His hands. Day after day they pour forth speech; night after night they display knowledge. There is no speech or language where their voice is not heard. May God bless you more Professor.
Such a blessing, may many souls trust Christ through this man's teaching, and thanks to the university for giving him the opportunity and the questions!
Wow! What a fantastic lecture. Hats off to Mr. Lennox
Watching again and again and taking notes 📝
Absolutely just love this man of God - AMAZING
Excellent scholarship and presentation. Praise be to the living God.
Love and respect to you Paul, for praising the true living god.
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Show us SUBSTANCE and EVIDENCE of God?
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Hallelujah. Praise be to God in Jesus's name. Amen ! ❤
What an example of a waste of language: 9 words without sense and most probably even without meaning to the rest of the world.
I am here shouting Amen! Just at the beginning of Prof Lennox teaching❤️
This is an amazing, humble man with great intellect. An example for many. Respect!!!
and a "gr0wn up" with an invisibIe imaginary friend
Very good speach..i am learning English during your speach...i am able to understand more words...thanks sir ...your thought about God realy relevant
what an educated way to learn english, by listening to people who really have something profound or well thought out to say. blessings to you
John Lennox has so lucidly and succinctly explored and exposed the topic of discussion from his christian perspective, he deserves ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
God has revealed Himself to you.🙏
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thanks f0r the image 0f Ienny fumbIing with his tr0users
When this man speaks, I stay glue to his voice!!! I have never been disappointed by him but I have tried to get every point he has made.
you do realise jesus wrote nothing, not even "my dad can beat up your dad"?> right?
and despite all the miracle claims no one wrote them down AS THEY OCCURRED, they waited at least ten years after he was dead to make up these stories?
no one has a clue what jesus said, did or thought.
and christianity is based on a bloke having a hallucination he saw a dead bloke he NEVER MET.
it's tosh.
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He is a very honest man which shows through and he gets it....he believes in truth and christian bible principles....I can listen all night...he is right about the church and does not lie or cover up....I so miss this honesty...it makes me lonely to not hear the truth. His grasp of the cosmological argument is fabulous....we need hard copy before we cannot get it online.....
God is relevant in all our situations and circumstances... As His word says " In Him we live, we move and have our being." Acts 17: 28❤
how? since when has god presided over ANY court case? since when has god's rules been used in court? humans do all the work, every case it looked at on it's own merit, god does nothing, not a thing. and jesus didn't write anything, you need to realise that you're quoting someone who invented what they thought jesus ought to have said.
Man made court not God. The Bible is God's word
God is only relevant to those who know Him for those that refuse to know God they are basically living a hopeless life full of selfishness and pride and always have something missing in their lives and it's so obvious when you see those who have all the money and fame yet are unsatisfied and over dose on drugs. Science itself is faith based because you have to have faith that the future will behave like the past so those who believe in naturalism are amongst the dumbest living today
to who did God say this....haha.And I'd I ask an Indian Christian he can think of God only as on man n that's Jesus....haha
@@honesthose
man made g0d and the c0urt
y0u say the bibIe is g0ds w0rd
but y0u cann0t pr0ve that
s0 we 0nIy have y0ur w0rd
and a gr0wn up wh0 beIieves in an invisibIe man
is n0t a g00d start if y0u are I00king f0r what`s true
I wish I was one of the people in the crowd. But technology is so advanced that even though im not there I can still watch it on RUclips. Thank you Mr. John Lennox for your talk. I'm always a fan of your debates and talks.
Thank you Lord Jesus Christ, my Master and Saviour, for sending Prof. John Lennox to lecture that God so loved the world, evangelism unequaled 😊❤
Cant stop listening to John, what a gift of a person.
Brilliance with such clarity, complimented by humbleness with an excellent power of debate !! Bravo
about what ?
Yahweys Aylar
Are you a THEIST? 🤔
If so, what are the reasons for your BELIEF in God? 🤓
@@TheWorldTeacher My belief in God is his promise of eternal of Life in heaven and while I am here I will build the kingdom of God! I have hope because I know when I die as a child of God I will be with God for eternity! What is your hope for when you die?
Mark Ford
🐟 07. GOD (OR NOT):
There has never been, nor will there ever be, even the slightest shred of evidence for the existence of the Godhead, that is, a Supreme Person, for the notion of an omnipresent, omniscient, and omnipotent Deity is both profoundly illogical and extremely incongruous, to put it mildly.
The English word “PERSON” literally means “for sound”, originating from the Latin/Greek “persona/prósōpa”, referring to the masks worn by actors in ancient European theatrical plays, which featured a mouth hole to enable the actors to speak through. Theists, by definition, believe that there is a Supreme Deity which incorporates anthropomorphic characteristics such as corporeal form (even if that form is a “spiritual” body, whatever that may connote), with a face (hence the term “person”), and certain personality traits such as unique preferences and aversions. Common sense dictates that Ultimate Reality must necessarily transcend all concepts, including personality and even impersonality. However, only an excruciatingly minute number of humans have ever grasped this complete understanding and realization.
There are at least FOUR possible reasons why many persons are convinced of the existence of a Supreme Personal God:
1. Because it is natural for any sensible person to believe that humans may not be the pinnacle of existence, and that there must be a higher power or ultimate creative force (an intelligent designer). However, because they cannot conceive of this designer being non-personal, they automatically suspect it must be a man (God) or a woman (The Goddess) with personal attributes. One who is truly awakened and/or enlightened understands that the Universal Self is the creator of all experiences and that he IS that (“tat tvam asi”, in Sanskrit).
2. Because they may have experienced some kind of mystical phenomenon or miracle, which they mistakenly attribute to “God's grace”, but which can be more logically explicated by another means. As explained, all such phenomena are produced by the TRUE Self of all selves (“Paramātman”, in Sanskrit). I, the author of this Holy Scripture, have personally experienced very powerful, miraculous, mystical phenomena, which I formerly ascribed to the personal conception of God (since I was a Theist), but now know to be caused, ultimately, by the Real Self.
3. Because they may have witnessed the deeds or read the words of an individual who seems to be a perfect person - in other words an incarnation of the Divine Principle (“Avatāra”, in Sanskrit). To be sure, such persons do exist, but that does not necessarily prove that the Supreme Truth is PERSONAL. An Avatar is a man who was born fully enlightened, with all noble qualities, but not necessarily perfect in every possible way. For example, very few (if any) of the recognized Avatars in human history taught or practiced veganism.
4. Because they may have been CONDITIONED by their family, society and/or religious organization over many years or decades. Unfortunately, we humans are very gullible. Due to low intelligence and lack of critical analytical skills, the typical person believes almost anything they read or hear from virtually any source. During a visit to one's local place of worship on any given weekend, one will notice a congregation of sheepish individuals nodding in agreement with practically every nonsensical, inane word spouted by their deluded so-called “priest”, imam, mullah, rabbi, guru, monk, or preacher. Even the current World Teacher, despite his genius intellect, was once a thoroughly-indoctrinated religious fundamentalist, before he awoke to a definitive understanding of life.
Having stated the above, the worship of the Personal Deity (“bhakti yoga”, in Sanskrit), is a legitimate spiritual path for the masses. However, the most ACCURATE understanding is monistic or non-dual (“advaita”, in Sanskrit). If one wishes to be even more pedantic, the ultimate understanding is beyond even the concept of nonduality, as the famous South Indian sage, Śri Ramana Maharishi, once so rightly proclaimed.
As an aside or adjunct, it seems that virtually every religious organization, particularly those originating in Bhārata (India), claims to have been founded by an Avatar, but that’s simply wishful thinking on the part of their congregations. Only a great sage or World Teacher can POSSIBLY recognize an enlightened being, what to speak of an Incarnation of the Divine. The typical spiritual aspirant, even one who may seem to be a highly-exalted practitioner, has very little idea of what constitutes actual holiness. Frankly speaking, many famous (infamous?) religious leaders were some of the most vile and contemptible characters in human history, particularly in this Epoch of Darkness (“Kali Yuga”, in Sanskrit).
“God is greater than God.”
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“Where there is Isness, there God is. Creation is the giving of isness from God. That is why God becomes where any creature expresses God.”
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“Theologians may quarrel, but the mystics of the world speak the same language.”
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“There is something in the soul that is so akin to God that it is one with Him... It has nothing in common with anything created.”
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“The knower and the known are one. Simple people imagine that they should see God as if he stood there and they here. This is not so. God and I, we are one in knowledge.”
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“The eye through which I see God is the same eye through which God sees me; my eye and God's eye are one eye, one seeing, one knowing, one love.”
Eckhart von Hochheim O.P. (AKA Meister Eckhart),
German Roman Catholic Priest.
“God is merely one of man's concepts, a symbol used for pointing the way, to the Ultimate Reality, which has been mistaken for the Reality itself.
The map has been mistaken for the actual territory.”
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“Worshippers may derive some sort of satisfaction or peace of mind, through worship of a concept such as God (created by themselves), but it is a futile process, from the viewpoint of experiencing one's true nature.”
Ramesh Balsekar,
Indian Spiritual Teacher.
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This Professor speaks truth with logicsl information both mathematically sckentifically but most of all a Christian with spiritual beliefs Amen !!!❤
Faith and rationalism don't pair up very well, and that's for a good reason.. We have a spiritual existence, just another layer of us, so although we all have a spirit, you cannot put it in a test tube. But it's who you are in your deepest.self.
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Truly amazing and a blessing.
Excellent questions by the HKU students and others.
Wow. that was awesome. I loved it. John Lennox sure gets right to the point. I loved his lecture.
I am a mathematician with a science background. I say that God is still important!!! When we are down or need hope, religion is so important!!!
We will live for 70, 80 , 90 plus years if we are lucky but will spend thousands and millions of years dead so it is worthwhile to pursue God , to find out if what Christ said was true.
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The world is not ONLY better with GOD ALMIGHTY but ALL EXISTENCE is ONLY BECAUSE OF GOD ALMIGHTY... and its function based on GOD ALMIGHTY'S WISDOM MIGHT GRACE AND PURPOSE...
We need to 'clone' this amazing man ! Once again big thank you professor Lennox ! X :)
no we don't need anymore people like lennox, the world is in as bad a mess as wee need, religion isn't helping, people don't seem to notice that god hasn't changed anything for three thousand years and that it's science that's making the planet more habitable, despite the odd putin, who is orthodox isn't he? aren't there rules about killing people?
EVIL? Read your scripture in context and get the branch out.
Glory to God you truly blessed❤
Understanding the life and teachings of Jesus Christ is still a force for good for every Christian who truly live it, not necessarily for the whole world. But at least reasonably believing in God still fare better than the total absence of God in every dumb or intelligent scientists, politicians or rich men, who easily degrade into idiots savages prone to violence.
you do realise jesus wrote nothing, not even "my dad can beat up your dad"?> right?
and despite all the miracle claims no one wrote them down AS THEY OCCURRED, they waited at least ten years after he was dead to make up these stories?
no one has a clue what jesus said, did or thought.
and christianity is based on a bloke having a hallucination he saw a dead bloke he NEVER MET.
it's tosh.
Few probably heard of this wonderful gentleman in the US but I am glad I found him. We have a great online Bible study group that meets every Thursday night on Yuck Tube. So happens that some of our group also listens to Mr. Lennox. Because he is far more knowledgeable of the scripture than 99% of US pastors we enjoy him. Our leader Dr. Randy White is in the same class as this excellent man. Note should anyone look up our class our leader has a shaved head and face. There’s several others with his same name in the Bible study business however none of them are like him. Most are Kingdom now Covent Theology, we are Pauline Grace gospel which is not popular and never has been but its more literal and true to the text
I so enjoy hearing John Lennox lecture and debate. He is so down to earth and passionate about his beliefs.
Another great talk by John Lennox.
I have some good realization through this talk. Love it so much!
That's a beautiful explanation of atheism and theistic.
God bless 🙌 🙏.
Praise the Lord Almighty 🙌 🙏 👏 ✨️ 💛 💯.
Wonderful talk by a wonderful man by our wonderful God.
Such a powerful answer to the final question... How does Christianity differ from other religion. God be bless you John!
Belief does not equate with evidence but can be a powerful way to cope with reality.
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FABULOUS!! HE ARTICULATES EXACTLY HOW I FEEL ABOUT TRUE SCIENCE.
This is an amazing lesson. God bless you John.
We are relevant. John Lennox gives us reason to believe in God and present the Gospel.
He's a brilliant man and has a vast experiences with God! May God bless all of us!
"God accepts us for what we are.." Truly, an amazing teacher of God and Christianity! 🙏😍🇵🇭
Simply awesome 👏
Thank you Dr. Lennox 👏👏👏👏🙏
Very fair and balance point of view.....it strengthen the belief of the existence of God. Thank you Sir!
Thank you for uploading this, very interesting!
Powerful, even nature preaches the relevance of the of God mercy the all powerful, all wise, the omnipotent, He who was, is and will forever be amen
An amazing presentation that should be at least required if not offered in every Public and private School, Institution of Higher Learning and Political Party.
A great preacher to the youth.
Prof. John Lennox you made my day God Bless you
I am truly grateful that I have come across with this recording. this has changed my thinking completely. thank you Dr Lennox
mashed your brain eh? he's like that with his droning voice, might help with insomnia, not so much with morals.
Wao...what a great evangelist!
God is my all!
Thank you Dr John Lennox for sharing your faith in such a beautiful way. See you in Heaven.
Glory to God🙏
Just love Lennox and the clarity he gives us as a bearer of the light and truth of Christ, thanx ‼️🥰💓
Lennox is genius
God always has a man to take the atheists down
Nice to learn that a university professor believes in God. God is within each and every one of us, it’s just a matter of connecting with our inner self and one can realise that what we expected up in heaven was always within us.
Guru Granth Sahib the universal guru for the world gives answers to all human questions.
BRILLIANT, BRILLIANT, BRILLIANT 😇❤️❤️❤️🙌🙌🙌🙏🏻🙏🙏🏽🙏🏾🙏🏿
meh.
Wonderfully Wonderful Dynamic Heavenly Given Lecture About God JESUS
Christ Amen
God Bless you John 🙏
Dr. Lennox is one of my favorite apologists. His thinking is (in my view) very clear, concise and incisive.
Wonderful lecture
The world belongs to God, He made it and is very relevant to every human, He made us all. No debate and no controversy.
He made us and we did mistake to make one out of all His Son
Very interesting to hear the argument that atheism undermines the rationality of science.
I came across Dr John Lennox today and wow, his description of science and the blending of both GOD AND science is so powerful. He destroys other religions....JESUS CHRIST IS REAL!!!!
GOD IS GOOD, HE always raise up a man or woman in the right season to preach HIS WORD and make it easy for those who think they are intelligent. The WORD OF GOD IS SHARPER THAN ANY TWO EDGE SWORD.
Praise GOD SLMIGHTY❤❤❤
After God breaths life into you , your free agency permits you to determine that God is irrelevant, after you draw your last breath, that decision is irrelevant to God.
Hardest thing I have heard.
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I love seeing all these precious faces from different places than where I am.This is the first time I have seen/heard John Lennox & I'm so happy that the faith that is the only truth is making its way to these students in Hong Kong. The facts are the world is a worse place without God and the real Hope is in the *Certainty* of the forgiveness of sins that the Savior Jesus Christ won for us on the cross. He rose on the 3rd day. Our hope isn't that of the world's hope, e.g.,"I hope it rains". I pray God bless&keep Hong Kong U.
NO CHRIST DID NOT GIVE LIFE IT WAS TAKEN BCS THE JEWS THOUGHT HIM TO BE THE SNATCHER OF THE MIDDLE N LOWER CLASSES FROM THEM TO KEEP THE MONARCHY OF THE WORLD N RELIGION IN THEIR HANDS AND ESA PBUH N MUHAMMAD PBUH CAME TO EARTH AS SAVIOUR OF THE HUMANITY FROM THE EXPLOITING CLASSES OF THE JEWS RELIGIOUS LEADERS GONE AWAY FROM TRUE TEACHINGS OF GOD N THE KINGS N gods OF THE WORLD AND ITS WRONG TO SAY ESA GAVE LIFE NO HE DID NOT GIVE LIFE HE WAS ELEVATED TO HEAVEN BY ALMIGHTY ALLAH TO SAVE HIM FROM EXECUTION N HE WILL RETURN ALONG WITH THE IMAM OF MUSLIMS MEHDY A S AND ACCORDINGLY NO ONE CAN INTERCEDE YOUR SINS TO BE FORGIVEN BY HIS EFFORTS UNTILL UR NOT ON THE PROPHET PATH N TEACHINGS WHICH ARE FROM GOD NOT FROM THE PROPHET BCS WHATEVER IT IS PRACTICED BY THE PROPHET IT IS IRRELEVENT TO PROPHET ITSELF BUT FOR SAKE OF ALLAH HE FOLLOWS ALLAH INSTRUCTIONS WHAT TO DO N WHAT NOT TO DO N SETS A PATH FOR THE FOLLOWERS FOR ITS OWN TIMES NOT MORE THAN THE UPCOMING PROPHET TIMES N A PROPHET PATH SAID N GUIDED BY GOD PRACTICED BY PROPHET IS THE RIGHT PATH TO FOLLOW TO REACH GOD N NO ONE WILL BE FORGIVEN WITHOUT FOLLOWING THE PATH OF GOD NOT THAT HIS ANY ACT LIKE SACRIFICE WILL BE A SOURCE OF FORGIVENESS BCS SACRIFICE BY FORCE COULD BE TAKEN BY THE MONARCHY BUT REAL PATH IS THE WAY WHICH THE PROPHET HAD SET BEFORE HIS FOLLOWER N THOSE CHRISTIANS WHO DO SAY CHRIST GAVE LIFE N BECOME SOURCE OF ALL HUMANITY TO BE CLEANSED FROM SINS ITS A STUPID IDEA N ITS CALLED FALSE HOPE A DELUSIONAL SATANIC MISTAKE GOES ON GOES ON IN AS IN BUILT SYSTEM OF THINKING PATTERNING N COME OUT OF THE MISTAKEN BELIEF ABOUT FORGIVENESS N GOD HAS WARNED IN QURAN THAT DONT LEAD YOUR LIFE IN THE SHADES OF ESA MUHAMMAD PERSONALITIES RATHER TAKE THEM AS CHARACTERS TO BE FOLLOWED N ONLY FOLLOWING THEIR WAY WILL BE THE SOURCE OF ALL INDIVIDUALS NOT ANY INTERCEDING PERSON A SOURCE TO A VICTORY IN AFTER LIFE N PLEASE FORGET THESE STUPID IDEAS OF ESA MOOSA MUHAMMAD PERSONAL ROLES WILL GET US FREE FROM GOD PUNISHMENT N ITS LOGIC THAT UR TO ITSELF STRIVE TO GET GOD ATTENTION BCS THE PROPHET IS ONLY A MIDDLE MAN WHO TEACHES THE RIGHT LIFE PATTERNS BY ALMIGHTY DIRECTIONS CAME BY ANGELES OF GOD N ITS ALL AN ORGANISED WAY N JUSTICE IS TO LEAD YOUR LIFE FOLLOWING THE TEACHINGS OF YOUR PROPHET NOT WHAT WAS DONE WRONG WITH PROPHET OR IMAM HUSSAIN AND NOW REMEMBERING THEM WILL FREE THEM FROM GOD PUNISHMENT N ADAM MISTAKE WAS ADAM MISTAKE N IT WAS NOT THE MISTAKE INHERITED IN ALL COMING GENERATIONS N NOW ITS OUR DUTY TO FOLLOW GOD N HIS INSTRUCTIONS THROUGH WHAT HIS PROPHET AS ROLE MODEL DID N SAID N COME OUT OF FALSE NOTIONS N ITS INJUSTICE N MAKES US SLAVE N DEPENDENT ON GOD N PROPHET THAT WE SHOULD NOT TRY TO STAY AWAY FROM SINS THAT GOD WILL FORGIVE US BY THE SACRIFICE OF CHRIST OR IMAM HUSSAIN IN MUSLIMS THESE ARE ALL IRRELEVANT TALKS N NON SENSE MAIN THING IS GOD NOT ME YOU N PROPHET RATHER GOD IS CENTRE OF ALL OUR DOINGS N HIS INSTRUCTIONS SHOULD BE FOLLOWED NOT WHAT HAPPENED WITH PROPHETS N IMAMS AND IT BECAME A TESTIMONY TO FORGIVESS N SHUT UP ALL STUPID CHRISTIANS JEWS N EVEN SUCH MUSLIMS WHO DEPEND ON PROPHETS N IMAMS THAN GOD FOR THEIR FORGIVENESS AFTER GOOD DEEDS DONE WITH GOOD INTENTIONS N PURITY MUST
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Hmmm look n witness wisdom from this man indeed he knows who GOD is n he has received the wisdom of THY CREATOR THBE GOD ALMIGHTY. GOD bless you MR Lennox
Well said and well done John Lennox. His argument was well spoken, concise, traceable and raises wonderful questions for us all to think about. His conclusion was solid. I am thankful that such a man can clearly articulate and relate the truth that he has known with us all.
Christ did not come for religion, or rules or rituals, Christ came for relationship. He is personal, it's about you and Him and it is the Holy Spirit who makes this work in our day to day lives.
you do realise jesus wrote nothing, not even "my dad can beat up your dad"?> right?
and despite all the miracle claims no one wrote them down AS THEY OCCURRED, they waited at least ten years after he was dead to make up these stories?
no one has a clue what jesus said, did or thought.
and christianity is based on a bloke having a hallucination he saw a dead bloke he NEVER MET.
and despite spending 30 years trying to persuade people god can cheat death and to sign up, the day he dies instead of challenging the romans to try to kill him AGAIN, he vanishes, just like a dead person would.
it's tosh.
John, I'm so happy that you come to Hong Kong.
And the clever parasite probably departed with a load of money
Gosh he is so so good!!
This man is a warrior encouragement from God and his words are very wise words.
"A world without atheism" would just be a world full of hypnotized followers, very similar to the world we live in today...
one of the best speakers i've heard so far. Great detail and very informative.
Without GOD we are nothing