Is Anything Worth Believing In? | John Lennox's Fantastic Lecture at UC Berkeley
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- Over the course of human history, ideas have come and gone, countless religions into existence, and movements for change have succeeded and failed. Amidst all that is out there, the question remains: What, if anything, is worth believing in? Come find out as Professor of mathematics and apologist John Lennox gives his response, drawing from his experiences with atheism and theism in Eastern Europe. | UC Berkeley | Explore more at www.veritas.org.
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If there were more men in pulpits like Dr. Lennox, pews would be filled to overflowing. He is magnificent. His words move me to tears.
Prof John Lennox to me is a genious n devoted Christian n yet very humble in explaining his faith in Christianity...and he is also veru humourous.....
Listening to Lennox convinces me more and more that a CREATOR IS the answer to life!
My RESPECT sir!!!
John Lennox miracles
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Who or what created the creator?
If religious fairy tales can fool an educated John Lennox, imagine what it could do to ordinary folks.
@@AtamMardes Beliefs are deeply ingrained and defy logic. His sole premise is that his god and his bible are true. That is not rational and at every debate the atheists are too polite to say that the basis of his belief does not stand up to scrutiny. There is also a gene responsible for religious delusion
This dear brother is a jewel.. there's not many like him left.. his lecture made me trust in God even more !!
Our world needs more men like John Lennox! We must speak out truth in love to a hurting and lost world headed for a christless eternity. We have an evidential faith and it is all around us, and is working in and thru us. Allowing christ to live in and thru us is the greatest evidence we have to give. And the death, burial and resurrection of Jesus, that gospel message must be given for anyone to find and know Him in truth. If we give that gospel, His Holy Spirit will reveal Him to their heart!Thank you brother Lennox and thanks for having him. And he is still going today!! God give him strength!
What exactly *is* your" world"? A man's *world* can be tiny with limited horizons and limited to his village parish or immediate environs and there are as many understandings of the word *world* as there are men.
"Owing to the loss of the capacity to ponder and reflect,
whenever the contemporary average man hears or employs in conversation any word with which he is familiar
only by its consonance, he does not pause to think, nor
does there even arise in him any question as to what exactly is meant by this word, he having already decided,
once and for all, both that he knows it and that others
know it too.
A question, perhaps, does sometimes arise in him when
he hears an entirely unfamiliar word the first time; but in
this case he is content merely to substitute for the unfamiliar word another suitable word of familiar consonance
and then to imagine that he has understood it.
To bring home what has just been said, an excellent example is provided by the word so often used by every
contemporary man-*”world.”*
If people knew how to grasp for themselves what
passes in their thoughts when they hear or use the word
”world,” then most of them would have to admit-if of course they intended to be sincere-that the word carries no exact notion whatever for them. Catching by ear simply the accustomed consonance, the meaning of which they assume that they know, it is as if they say to themselves “Ah, world, I know what this is,” and serenely go
on thinking.
Should one deliberately arrest their attention on this
word and know how to probe them to find just what they
understand by it, they will at first be plainly as is said
“embarrassed,” but quickly pulling themselves together,
that is to say, quickly deceiving themselves, and recalling
the first definition of the word that comes to mind, they
will then offer it as their own, although, in fact, they had
not thought of it before.
If one has the requisite power and could compel a
group of contemporary people, even from among those
who have received so to say “a good education,” to state
exactly how they each understand the word *“world,”* they
would all so “beat about the bush” that involuntarily one
would recall even castor oil with a certain tenderness. "
When asked if he still believed in god(and of course that word means different things to different people, JUung puffed on his pipe snd said "*I_knoe* if I know, why would I believe?
Of all the pasive mechanocal things mw/dreaming mahines do believing is the most asinine pasive and mechanical thus belief is utterly worthles when the imbeciles *can't_help* believing and believe passively mechanically automatically
The pork chop and his payemasters could try believing in*not* ending sentences or questions with propsitions flapping about pointlessly and uglily in the wind with nothing in front of which to pre_pose, nd the pork chop could stop lying about being neither he nor any ordinary dreaming machine can, namely a christian which calls for more than fatso has; he is no christian because i it *cannot* be true it *is* not true; only a man number four can be a christian and the pork chop is just another mouse(nothing and nobody)
John Lennox is a towering intellectual. He is the best with regards to the demonstration that religion and science are cousins and not enemies.
Dd s if you have read ANY of his books listened carefully any of his debates or videos and you think that he uses god of the gaps then I'm sorry for your hearing ability.
@@Shirohige33 expound please
@@Shirohige33 have you read the Holy Bible? There is God and Jesus is God, then according to your arguments then you got a sight problem. ✝️🙏🥰✌
"towering intellectual"?!
To those without wits learning and breeding may be, but to nobody else; the man is a muddlehead
Unfortunately, Professor Lennox can't discern fairy tales, fictions, myths, and bs from facts.
John Lennox - a great speaker, intellectual, scientist, philosopher etc. but most of all, a most wonderful witness to the glory of God - through Jesus Christ. Praise the Lord.
A brilliant presentation by a brrilliant mind.
Very true, this man is an amazing blessing to the Christendom today, the way he stands up for his faith is both examplary and inspiring
I find it interesting how so many are so quick to judge him (Lennox) as a fool for believing as he does, and lecturing the things he does. Here's a man with multiple PHDs, talking about things that have a deep impact in today's society (and our future), with something that can quite possibly affect us for an eternity. And people just dismiss it as if he's a raving lunatic....
At the very least, it should make you question your blind belief that science is the one and only way to any truth, and glance at the evidence he presents. If nothing else, at least it will reinforce your own belief and maybe help you get rid of your hatred for people who believe in something greater then humanity.
"science is the one and only way to any truth..." There is no such thing as absolute truth and scientists know that. Lennox doesn't know that!
GeoCoppens "there is no such thing as absolute truth." Except your statement which we should all take as the ultimate truth right?
No, damn wrong and stupid. Are you trying to be clever?
GeoCoppens trying to be clever? I am simply trying to understand your train of thought... if there is no truth, then it's all a matter of perspective. if it is all a matter of perspective, why should you or anyone care what other perspectives are? Now of there is such a thing as absolute truth, then it falls to people capable of thought to seek it out. If you're making a claim that your argument is true, just be prepared to back it up....
The only concept of truth that is workable is the notion of semantic truth as expounded by mathematician Alfred Tarski. All other meanings are vague and results in endless blabbing.
My favorite lecture by far of Professor Lennox
My God … thank You!
And you Dr Lennox for what you do
In a distressing world, John Lennox helps me remember their is something better to come. Thank you, servant of God.
Love the comment! You get a prize! Raimundo Panikkar. Atheist at 15, I studied the Bhagavad Gita for a few years then it brought me back to the Bible. Panikkar, a Spanish priest did the same. Ponderous reading but worth it. Check it out. It adds to Lennox beautifully. Keep well.😊
I always enjoy listening to Mr. Lennox. Well done!
I'd love to invite him around to my house to talk to my family... their so lost please pray
Many blessings from The Creator!!!
God is truth, there's truth in numbers, Axiom.... The Universe was created in truth, God, like numbers cannot lie.. That's why he's the truth and it is reflected in his creation...
_Christian,_ if you replace the word "God" with leprechauns, does your argument's logic still hold up? If not, why not? Personally I think it's incomprehensible nonsense to call any _being_ "truth". Truth is just the set of facts about reality, and no _being_ could be that while also being a being.
@@majmage leprechaun eh?....revealing
@@majmageDon't faint when you read this: Jesus said, "l am the Truth..... " Challenge: why does your belief system make you think it's incomprehensible?
@@annexton3795 Did you faint? Because you clearly didn't read the end of the post where I explained why it's incomprehensible: because truth is the set of facts about reality, and calling a being by that concept makes absolutely no sense. It's like calling Michael Jackson "symbolism" or John F Kennedy "math". It's nonsense at face value. So then the real question is why do you believe an idea so bad that you're forced to ignore what I say? Why were you convinced by an idea that was nonsense at face value?
@@mathieuvanleeuwen7127 Why did you ignore the point that was made? To me, _that's_ revealing: that you're forced to ignore explanations of why theistic arguments for gods are nonsense.
This video needs so many more views and likes! It’s extremely powerful and well done. Thank you for sharing this with us.
Love John Lennox.
I'm realizing that the was Professor Lennox lectures is very simple but the points themselves are much more complex than the way that he is presenting so people are not understanding. He does an excellent job and is extremely persuasive.
One could ask John Lennox how he explains as a scientist how Jonah lived in the body of a live whale for a day or two. John Lennox calls himself a scientist? WHAT?
thank you Dr. Lennox~ your lectures always help me a great deal~
This man has had such an amazing influence in my life; I honestly believe he is the C.S. Lewis or the G.K. Chesterton of this generation. I used to be an Agnostic until I started listening to his debates and speeches. I was most persuaded by his top-down moral causation speech, because from personal experience that seems to be very true.
curious this was 9 years ago. Have you changed in your thinking? Do you you believe in absolute truth?
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I love this Man ministry, sharing to the intellectual students, A modern day PAUL.
He says we need to get ‘God talk’ back into the universities and he is disappointed to see that youth cannot debate these issues now because of being politically correct. The uni is the chance to discuss other world views and this should continue. His lifetime experiences and research is valuable. This is a fabulous lecture and I hope you enjoy this too (He’s easy to listen to.)
Well said.
" we" being you and which specific identifiable interlocutor?
"Need" in what sense, that you would otherwise die?
Brilliant lecturer is Professor Lennox.
‘Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.’ Philip K. Dick
When you hit your thumb with a hammer or have an headache or toothache, do you " believe_in" them.
What e-x-a-c-t-l-y are men doing when they *believe"*?
It is a form of dreaming is it not?
Maybe I would have passed math in college if John Lennox was my teacher
Maybe.
Same......
Fascinating talk. God bless from Aotearoa NZ.
a true soldier of Christ
As a child I gave my heart to Jesus because of his virtue and beauty. As an adult and a PhD scientist, I spent 40 years digging deeper and deeper to be confident that I could fully give my mind to a loving Creator and the answer was YES - I AM!
Sadly, people don't become Christians because of a stereotype that might be placed on them. Lennox breaks that stereotype showing that it can be displayed by a highly intelligent scientist.
Excellent speech and make all sense!
❤
Honour A great enlightened gentleman.
Uh
Lennox is genius!
Likewise, you and I as well. It's been revealed. God made it easy, for me and you. Take your sit, and let no men take it away. And bring all our shortcomings and mistakes. To the table. Beware, for God does not violate our free will. Example, it will be great if we have a wife. That is digital, press the button, kiss me. Hehe!
He is one of my role models, along with Ravi Zacharias.
Ravi is now face to face with Truth. Sorry he’s fallen from grace on this earth.
I tremble to think what Ravi faced after his death. May he be a warning to all believers.
Top 10 comments that aged horrendously:
I love this guy too! Hopefully I can meet him at some point...
Well said Dr Lennox, just brilliant.
He certainly subscribes to that opinion so that makes two of you.
Wonderful videos, keep them coming please 🙏🙏
Reading the comments in comes clear that some atheists believe that "if it can't be proven through science it is not worth believing". Using this philosophic view (which can't btw be proven scientifically) they try to understand relations using science. I wonder how they deal with love in their life? Do they test it in a lab??
I love this man, too . . .
I love this man....
Well i disagree, we are drawing our evolution theory from incomplete fossil records and what not.
I once heard a Geologist say if the fossil record was a role of film than only 1 out of every 999 fossils would be known, the rest are unknown and darwin himself said that if after 100 years those fossils are not found than discard my theory, well its been over 150 years.
True, but what we're left with is the quaint term, "missing link", fun to play around with.
well done John...well answered...God be blessed
He is great
Thank you John.
The chicken and egg question, matter and mind . . . to me it like an interface for communication for human beings. We only understand what our senses tell us, for now anyway.
Good Sir I am Hearing you and seeing you for the first time and Loveing you. God has given you a Beautiful Common sense, Humor and Godly Wisdom. Science Points Mankind back to God no matter how hard they fight it!
Dear Professor , it is very interesting to listen to your thought , yes , the spontaneity of its content , after all where could all the deepest of the stuff your thoughts are sourced from , the spontaneity untimed and sensed inside the hall with the Omnipresence of the audience amidst the laughter ! something excellent and appreciable. Should you still deem it beyond the Word infinite ♾... the Atheists ⚛ might undermine it for their UNbelief , DISbelief , MISbelief and all , so what ? and what if ! None of us 🇺🇸 can subscribe and witness for the Apocalypse of entierity. God exists as long as you believe in the spontaneity of the Word. May God bless 🙌 and the Universities.
Life?So uncertain.So short.So interesting.Apetite for learning?Insatiable. Death?Our enemy? If he lives?Christ?So shall we!Eternally! Very serious stuff indeed.I am always impressed by John's humanity.Very sincere.I believe he is right.
I'm leaning towards pantheism. If anyone could move me towards theism it would be John. Could listen to him all day.
Do you have a link to the particular speech to which you refer? Thank you in advance.
I have been Preching Your Words for 40more years but because I don't have a piece of paper with a seal . ... But God's Promises and Truth is Simply Evident!
This is a dynamic and impactful piece; akin to a book that was dynamic and impactful. "The Joy of Less: A Minimalist Living Guide" by Matthew Cove
It's a miracle Berkley allowed him to speak.
Very much like the idea " if its true is faulse" as a logical incompatibility ! Dr. Lennox, great professor and apologist!
I agree with much of what you say. By the way, if you'd like to continue this discussion I would recommend us moving it to the messages. The way youtube handles discussions in the comments section is way to weird for my taste.
Well, to be philosophically accurate there are way more things that we can not know absolutely.
Remember that evolution is part of history, even though it's pre-written history. We both know that we don't accept any kind of history solely based on what has been written.
23:00
24:50 believing is matter of evidence
31:00 there is no rational justification for behaviour if there is no god
Claim/axiom and evidence.
42:45 mind is the brain
56:15 word became human and dwelt among us
Can you send me a link to that speech? I can't find it.
makes perfect sense to us.
An axiom I live by:
"What begins in NECESSITY.. will find its Greater End".
Truth is man's Greatest Possession.
Only TRUTH is Worthy of History;
the Value of the Present --and the "Wealth" of a Justified Future.
The Panorama of Truth has no vanishing point.
I decided unconditional love is the reason Christianity has been growing for 20 decades. What if the world would practice unconditional love?
Are you sure that Christianity is unconditional love? What exactly do you mean by unconditional love?
@@kennethgee2004 👈🏻 My biological father is abusive all my life, but I still love him. I am a Christian and that is unconditional love
@@albusdumbledore219 except that you do not allow for him to be in your life. God loved us first that He sent His Son to die for our sins. The issue is that one does not get this redemption without accepting the Son as God and Savior. So God unconditionally provided a way for redemption, but conditionally place restrictions on one obtains that redemption. It is how one defines unconditional and applies it that becomes the issue.
@@kennethgee2004 👈🏻 No. God did not place restrictions. God gave all of us free will in everything we do. Accepting Jesus as God’s one and only son is exercising my free will to believe or not. I choose Jesus as the way, the truth and the life. ❤️🙏🏻
@@albusdumbledore219 Actually God did place restrictions on those that are saved. There is the condition that one must believe that Jesus is the Son of God who takes away the sins of the world. It is only in belief in Jesus that salvation can be found. You have freewill because there is a choice to be made. Whether or not you believe does not change the fact that Jesus is Lord. You only have free will because you are made in the image of God, who is a free will agent. The consequences of our choices we are not free to accept or reject either. So if one rejects Jesus, then your just wages is death. You do not get to decide whether or not you reject that death.
Let there be Light! This is so simple they can not receive it .
All I needed was one.
Listening ...
I would like to add spanish subs... how can i do that?
My hero.
When I was five years old, I had a friend who was a couple years older than me, and he was an atheist and he put the terrifying thought in my head that nothing existed. It was a nightmare thought that only left me decades later when I realized that Jesus was the truth. That is my evidence. Jesus exists. That tortuous mind numbing crushing thought is gone. I remember whenever that thought came, it was horrifying, the worst feeling I could ever have. So hard to shake. It was always lurking around the edges of my consciousness, trying to get in again. I’m so glad it’s gone.
@Chuck1863 True. But sometimes it is hard to not defend what you believe when you are getting "attacked". But still... I don't HAVE to...
Wow!
Some men and women are in themselves a particular, and peculiar, sort, who testify Not only OF a Creator, but to what sort of loving and approachable Creator he is, simply by virtue of the sort of Person that THEY THEMSELVES are as you observe them, even apart from the actual content of their own presentations of material.
I believe in testable, reliable, ideas and products that improve my own well being and the well being of my fellow primates.
Prase God for you John Lennox!
Jon 3:10 KJV And God saw their works, that they turned from their evil way; and God repented of the evil, that he had said that he would do unto them; and he did it not.
Act 19:4 KJV Then said Paul, John verily baptized with the baptism of repentance, saying unto the people, that they should believe on him which should come after him, that is, on Christ Jesus.
Exo 13:17 KJV And it came to pass, when Pharaoh had let the people go, that God led them not through the way of the land of the Philistines, although that was near; for God said, Lest peradventure the people repent when they see war, and they return to Egypt:
God repented more than anyone else in the bible (Jonah 3:10)
We can repent to sin, not only from sin (exodus 13:17)
Repentance for salvation is to repent from trusting our works or anything we were trusting and put trust on Jesus as God and Saviour for Everlasting life (Act 19:4)
See it's so simple! To Prove God you must receive Him Through the Redemption of His Son Jesus! You don't get to Know anyone unless you spend time with them! All our Closest friends are Closest friends because we have gotten to know them!
Again! Science Says its Impossible for a Bumblebee to Fly ! But Yet it Does, and quite frankly Very Very Well.
Because they are Directly in front of US ! (Ford Question)
John Chapter 3 Verse 16.
This Professor speaks better than all presidents ever been!!
Join the debate... Yea man!!!
Explaining that lighting exists because Zeus is the god of lightning is a 'god of the gaps'.
If God created the universe then the study of science isn't about replacing God with an understanding of the universe, but revealing HOW God created the universe; or the mechanisms therein.
Lennox has explained this ad nauseam because it's hard to grasp, as your comment shows.
Can me and you truly be able to love one another with no ceasing?
to ask that question is to answer it.
What can a dreamer know of impartial love?
I wouldn't mind continuing this argument in PM's. The reason is that fully answering you takes more than just 500 characters. I'll answer this in a PM.
@Chuck1863 What if someone asks you why you believe what you believe in? Or if someone tells you that you are a fool who believes what you believe? When I answer I am a christian to the question "What do you believe" I almost always get follow up questions...
Suppose x asks what does" believe_in" mean? Suppose it to be a joll god idea? what erectly is the mechanism of believing in out up down or sideways?
what exactly are you doing when you *believe*?
You have not the faintest idea?
*No* surprises there
@@vhawk1951kl OK.
Possibly not ending sentences with prepositions like " in" flapping about pointlessly uglily in the wind for want if something in front of which to position itself.
To" believe_in"x can mean so many things: That there is an x or x is a jolly good idea
Our Father, who art in heaven,
hallowed be thy Name,
thy kingdom come,
thy will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
Give us this day our daily bread.
And forgive us our trespasses,
as we forgive those
who trespass against us.
And lead us not into temptation,
but deliver us from evil.
For thine is the kingdom,
and the power, and the glory,
for ever and ever. Amen.
Challenge accepted. Here's one: Robert M. Price. And one is all I need to prove my point. Now, remember, I don't agree with him. All I'm saying is that some people in any field will be wrong. That includes biology.
Of course people question it. Loads of people question it. I can give you examples of that too, if you'd like.
Again! Prase God For You. Without Questions we can not move forward and receive the knowledge of Christ.
" we" being you and which specific identifiable interlocutor?
You can "*Know*"(directly immediately personally experience [asdirectly immediately personally as pain] ) *Nothing* of the past and even less of the dead
Well, given your theory that animals better at escaping are found in higher strata, shouldn't we be able to expand it to every species? If it is true for trilobites and rabbits, it must also be true for beetles and dinosaurs.
Also, I found some information on one Horace Skipper, and it seems that his "[r]esearch [is on] emphasized enhancement of plant growth through selection of superior plant host[s]" and that he has studied mostly weeds and soil. And more importantly he is only human. Prone to error.
And Matti Leisola seems to mostly have studied biotech, not exactly necessarily the most knowledgeable evolutionary scientist.
The external world is real
‘Reality is that which, when you stop believing in it, doesn’t go away.’ Philip K. Dick
Lennox!
Well i will look him up, but thats just one.
You don't do anybody a favour when you believe in anything, it's the framework you adopt for your own and collectives well being.
Beliefs are for the intellectually lazy who don't like to learn facts.
@@schmetterling4477 Facts???
God is that which is responsible for everything that is
He needs to spend time in a southern Baptist christian college and tell those folks there is no conflict between science and religion.
...and I was,
..broad dupp..
(where were you brought up)?
The evolutionary mechanism is also understood mathematically and the evolutionary consequences of what we know about how species reproduce are logically necessary consequences of the type of permutation of genes that happen in DNA.
It just doesn't make the kind of predictions you think it does. Well adapted species surviving a long time is not that. Fossil rabbits lying next to trilobites might be though.
That is absolutely not what he is saying. He addresses the 'God of the gaps' idea multiple times, watch a few more speeches!
"Thoughts" and The concept of God
Usage of the word "Thought" in this post is taken to mean anything that is part of a humans conscious experience. Under this definition a sound heard is a thought as much
the thoughts going to solve a mathematical puzzle.
Based on the above definition it can be said that all of humanities knowledge consist of "thoughts". For anything to be known by a human it must become a "thought".
In the context of such a definition of "thoughts"
The set of all "thoughts" would fit the concept of God. If you accept Mathematical Platonism then God would exist
The concept of God entails a single entity that has the following properties
Wisdom: The set of all thoughts will contain the perfect answer to every possible question
Infinitude: The set of all thoughts will have an infinite amount of thoughts
Sovereignty: There can be no thought that is not an element of the set of thoughts
Omniscience:The set of all thought is all knowing as it contains all thoughts.
Modern beetles?, sorry mate, but where did the beetles and dino's come from, i thought we were on the topic of rabbits and trilo's?
Well tell that to Lennox, a Professor of of math who denies it.
And what do you mean well adapted species surviving longer arent that??
No ones ever found fossil rabbits lying next to trilobites, or step by step gradual slow change either for that matter.
No i cannot find any historins that doubt Chirst existed, and then again neither could Lennox, and he said that live in debate with Dawkins.
And well thats because Darwinism is such an ingrained theory in the minds of people its a bit hard to just think wrong of it.
people do not question it, even if all mathematical and logical probability goes agaont it, we are just told to accept it.