Reacting to Doc Rivers' "Insulting" Response to JJ Redick's Criticism on First Take | Le Batard Show
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- Опубликовано: 14 май 2024
- We look at the response Doc Rivers had for JJ Redick's criticism that he had for Doc on a recent episode of ESPN's First Take. Doc Rivers responds on the latest episode of The Stephen A. Smith Show.
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doc calling someone ineffective in the playoffs is hilarious.
He’s more effective than your comment was!! 😂😂😂😂🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Who got a ring 🤷🏽♂️
And accurate.
Indeed
How many rings and playoffs runs you have ? 🤣🤣🤣
JJ best numbers were with the 76ers with Brett Brown btw
Yea that is proving Doc's point, he was saying JJ's career took off after Doc decided to start him when no other coaches would
@ChefDeli87 not really the league started focusing more on 3's and Ben was the best player at finding 3 point shooters this has nothing to do with Doc
@@HoodedAlchemy I agree league was shifting but it is interesting that JJ didn’t start consistently until he played for Doc. Starting builds a players confidence a lot, and Doc believed in JJ enough to do that. It’s weird that JJ doesn’t like him lol
@@ChefDeli87 JJ has stated on many occasions now that he had offers to sign and start elsewhere when he was a FA from Orlando not just with the Clippers 😂
@@ChefDeli87 You and Doc are confusing what JJ Redick said. He didn't call him a bad coach. He never disputed that he had success with Doc. He stated something that a lot or most people agree with. That Doc often dodges responsibility and throws his former teams under the bus so that he doesn't look as bad. The funny thing is that this Doc Rivers response just proves JJ's point.
Also JJ has said that he had multiple offers to start he just chose the Clippers because he wanted to win. Obviously Doc wants to take credit for JJ's career so that he looks better, but JJ was on the come up. He was going to be a starter going forward. I am not saying Doc didn't help JJ, but to try to take credit for his success instead of actually responding to what JJ said is immature.
Doc just showed a masterclass in redirecting. Now the convo is about JJs play and not that he said doc avoids accountability.
It really was.
Someone should tell Doc that JJ's best year of his career was in 2018-2019 with 76ers that was coached by Brett Brown NOT Doc Rivers, 2nd Best year was his first year with the 76ers, 3rd Best year was his last year with the Magic, and I would say his 4th Best year was his first season with the Pelicans... Doc's impact barely reaches JJ's top 5 seasons...
Yeah you missed the point 😒
Still got a ring😂
Always pay attention when ppl attack the person and not what they said. Doc never said JJ lied or was wrong lol
Why would Doc go on about JJs playing career and not address JJs comment?
TF?! 🤨 That is addressing it and explaining why JJ is TRULY upset! 😒
JJ Redick was a great college basketball player and one of the best shooters to ever live... Doc is acting like he picked this guy up from the local Bestbuy and made him a good player. If anything, this is an indictment against SVG for not utilizing Redick more when he was with Orlando. How Pat Riley managed to develop unknowns like Max Strus or Duncan Robinson is more impressive than Doc Rivers deciding to start JJ
He didn't say he was bad in college, he didn't say he couldn't shoot, he said he started him after they got him from Milwaukee, and his movement plays utilized his strengths. His career did take off after that what lies did he tell?
On point
Lol how are you praising the development of strus and robinson without mentioning the coach who actually coached and helped develop them?
*eric Spolstra
JJ was doing nothing in Milwaukee.
That’s the truth
JJ was a better Sixer than Clipper.
Doc finished the season worse than the guy he replaced, and got the team knocked out in the 1st round of the playoffs regardless of injuries. You being the brilliant coach you’re advertised to be, you’re supposed to overcome all of that. Glenn Rivers has been done for a while.
You word it like the players don't play and impact winning or losing.
He didn't get the team knocked out, the players lost. The players also did something no other team in history did and that was win a playoff game with the 2 top players out due to injury.
If you read my last sentence, you should understand how difficult it is to win multiple games or the entire series with top 2 players out.
Glenn Rivers will continue the same path until either ownership changes or a competent front office will come to mind.
There isn't one coach who could overcome their two best players being hurt in a series and win, you're just blowing smoke
He was missing his best offensive and defensive player
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 you can tell a comment of somebody who never touched a court U said even tho every body hurt
Who the hell likes doc rivers?
No one, his own kids don't even like him.
😂😂😂 doc needs to stop scamming teams believing he can coach todays nba.
Doc struck out with the Clippers.
'The art of diplomacy is telling someone to go to Hell in such a way as they look forward to the trip...'
-- Winston Churchill
Can’t wait for doc to be fired mid season next year
Smh
Unfortunately it AIN'T happening....
They fired multiple coaches and are STILL PAYING THEM.
Firing Doc would only ADD to the salary being paid to ex coaches...
Doc is gonna have tosuffer through this.💯
Why does it have to be he’s master a skill to manipulate the media? Could it just be this is his personality and he doesn’t have any hard feelings towards JJ?
Steve kerr got a lot of hate always has and still does...jj in the same boat...he can be successful and smarter than the rest of us...and the haters
He wasn't very efficient in the playoffs where my coaching was always the problem
He pulled a Shaq “hey no disrespect but I’m going to disrespect you” lol
did anyone see glenn's first round exit coming? i don't think anyone thought that might happen...
The thing that furthers JJ's point is several players on those Clippers teams have gone on record talking about their own failures, about how they weren't mentally tough enough, they've been open about taking the blame and for the most part never really said anything about Doc. Then when Doc went on a podcast and started blaming the players you saw a shift from JJ, Crawford, Matt Barnes. Now they're taking shots at him because what JJ said is absolutely true. JJ never said Doc was a bad coach, he said he doesn't take accountability and other players have come out and said the same exact thing. Rather than address the point, Doc and his son decided to ignore it because even they know it's true, if it wasn't true then they both could have pointed to numerous times where Doc has taken responsibility.
Ahhh doc take the L and roll with it no one wants to hear this after getting shit on in the 1st rd when this team had championship aspirations
He was asked a question. So obviously at least one person wanted to hear it.
I'm another because that's why I clicked on the video 😂
Correction: His name is Glenn. He just calls himself Doc. 😏
LOL! They were getting shit on in the first round regardless of who the coach was. You can't lose the players they lost and succeed.
Jj can rant about doc and trash him personally but doc is wrong for responding 👍this bizarre love for JJ redick is getting out of control lol
This. The hate is ridiculous. Imagine if he lost 28 games in a row or had his team in the play-in in consecutive years.
What has JJ Reddick ever said about basketball that makes you call him a genius 🤣 What stats or analytics has he blessed you with that males you call him smart?? He has made some dumb comments and blasted Doc Rivers and that's supposed to make him head coach material...? He barely talks during telecasts of nba games. He writes out some basic pick and roll plays on a whiteboard and he gets cool guests... Toronto and Charlotte don't want him and they are terrible, but here come the clowns wanting him to have a prestigious job like the Lakers and he's never even coached JV on the high school level. Wow smh
He has enough respect of his basketball intellect that Lebron, one of the best and smartest players to ever play the game, wanted to do a podcast with him where they do a deep dive into the weeds of basketball and whats actually happening on the court. If he has the respect of one of the greats, he has my respect, especially because he unlike others has the ability to articulate it in an accessible way. So I'm not sure who else needs to tell you that he knows what he's talking about before you start believing it but maybe you the problem and not everyone else
@@DaHomieRoach OKay lol
Then, How come Charlotte and Toronto didn't hire him??
If you understood basketball you would see how simplistic those plays they put on the whiteboard are... not trying to insult you, but there's a difference between your funny af friend and a standup comedian. There's a difference between an ex player regurgitating basic plays on a white board and a head coach who has to put all his players in position to succeed and motivate an entire locker room of millionaires for 6 months, day in and day out.
Seeing Lebron on a podcast doesn't mean squat. He's in a Taco Bell commercial, too. what would you read into that? He has his own podcast with his best friends, How come you don't say one of those will be Lakers' next coach?
JJ Reddick is not a head coach. He needs experience watching and living in the administration of a team. Period.
@@1JamesHunter you seem to misunderstand what the podcast is about. No shit the plays aren't groundbreaking and super complex. None of the plays are. They dont have to be, because the talent level is so high. Its just about creating matchup problems, forcing the defense to make a decision. Its not rocket science, but some fans of basketball who have never actually played organized basketball doesn't know these concepts. Thats who the podcast is for. Since you know everything clearly, why even watch or listen to anything? You have absorbed all information there is to absorb, so why dont you just keep to yourself instead of making dumbass comments like JJ Reddick not getting selected as a head coach somehow diminishes his basketball intellect. No one is calling him a genius, but he's damn good at his job and I feel sorry for you that you're not able to differentiate that
@DaHomieRoach If you knew anything about basketball, you would know that the crap he and Lebron discuss on their little whiteboard is as basic as basketball can get... You're impressed with all the simple terminology and acronyms. The plays they draw up even elementary school children run those plays. That's AAU plays. Not the Triangle Offense or The Princeton offense or the Spurs Hammer system. It's a good podcast for people who want a little insight into how easy NBA plays are to diagram today. Every team comes down to a 2 man game, resulting in a drive to the basket and a kick out pass for a 3... They don't want these players to have to think because it will slow down their reaction time. So, they allow them the freedom to mostly play the game without much thought. Just like these simple concepts JJ draws up. And, how he keeps a job as a tv analyst is beyond me. He offers about as much insight to a basketball game as Stevie Wonder would.
JJ acts like the head of the players union - routinely carrying their water, calling out coaches.
JJ > Doc
Dan lebatard was the same back pocket guy who put out a clear hit piece on Dwyane Wade a model NBA citizen when Pat Riley reneged on their deal and Wade took his talents to Chicago. Several years and this YT channel is still sub 200K subs lol
Doc day 1 in Milwaukee " I don’t wish this on anyone"
When Doc was talking about JJ - like what person can't see the passive aggressive language? They're blowing Doc for his great delivery, but I completely disagree. Doc was angry
JJ’s play has nothing to do with him taking accountability. Deflection at it’s best smh
Doc was an all star as a player n champion as a coach
Wait. So JJs comments weren’t “insulting”. Saying “no accountability with this guy” with all the emotion that JJ said it and saying it with NO FACTS is an insult. And in actuality, Docs comments are fact based
Except they are incorrect
He didn’t say inaccurate lol
JJ and Jamal Crawford both had issues with his statements
Not only did Doc Rivers take credit for James Harden but he also took credit for SGA.
Like this dude is damaged goods
"...accountability with THAT GUY"... JJ Reddick could not have been more insulting. He needs to keep his mouth shut. Doc arranged entire plays with JJ running around picks and eventually throwing up bricks. Doc did not say JJ was ineffective no matter what picture you frauds want to paint - he should have.
Only way to shut JJ up is for him to coach a team and see just how good he is at it. JJ has a big mouth with nothing to back it up. All JJ has excelled at in the NBA is shooting or about 20% of the game. JJ was a one dimensional player in the NBA and now he is an expert when he isn’t playing. That is BS.
Look...I get that people don't like Doc Rivers, but what he's saying is correct. Redick's best playing period came when he played with the Clippers,who were coached by Doc Rivers. I know that he had higher ppg with the Sixers, but his best playing period was with the Clippers. Redick was a one trick pony. He was a catch and shoot player that was otherwise useless on the floor. He was absolutely atrocious defensively. S9 where exactly was Doc wrong?
What I love is that JJ has defended Doc for YEARS
He changed his tune after Doc said "oh I always knew those clippers teams couldn't win a Championship"
This has started with Doc throwing his former players under the bus
yeah, it's like people completely forgot that. And it wasn't just JJ, Jamal Crawford, Matt Barnes, they also got mad at Doc for throwing them under the bus.
Y … stop acting like jj was affective on a basketball court
nate robinson said doc did some sucker shit
The hate for Doc and the love for JJ (Sports Ben Shapiro) is so weird
Sports Ben Shapiro is a STRETCH (unless you strictly meant looks)
@@young__blacksmith he has the same smug arrogant debating mannerisms. It puts the other person on defense
Facts.
JJ was always terrible in the playoffs cause he refused to put the ball on the floor and dribble when they pressured him. Never drove to the lane.
Jj has won what? Duke, nothing. Nba, nothing. The clippers are cursed! How do they look now with ty lue? I'm a 76ers fan. Doc has had his missteps but his players have ultimately folded and never won anywhere else in the NBA!
Jj reddick-0
James harden-0
Ben Simmons- please
Joel embiid- 0
Blake griffin-0
His best numbers started under Doc Rivers because the clippers played with alot of fastbreaks and screeningbto get him open. We need to remember JJ wasbin the league for 8yrs before Doc got him from Milwaukee because he had stop playt as much because of his defense so Clippers played a up tempo game we alot screens and his scoring averages went up. During that time other teams figured out how JJ could be successful so if it wasn't for Doc JJ probably would have started a bench player because he was a liability on defense in alot of teams eyes until they saw that he could be successful and they got that from how Doc played him
Doc was like "bench players talking like starters" lol. Pretty much the same thing Jerry West said about JJ
I don't fault Doc for going at JJ . He went at him first. It it wut it is. Lol
Actually no, this thing has been going on for a while, while as a HC of the 76ers, Doc started it by saying the Clippers were never going to win the championship because the team couldn’t get along while the 76ers can…….
Clowns kill me. First- is what Doc said true? We're Reddick's best years under Doc? YES! Did Reddick perform poorly in playoffs causing him to be benched? YES! Is what Doc said true??? So y'all agree with what he said as a matter of fact but don't like Doc, so y'all try to dismiss him. Just like Jack Nicholson said..."you can't handle the truth"! 😂
People getting mad at doc don't get mad when somebody give their opinion back
Plus, they aren't scrutinizing other coaches with nearly the same hate.
I'm with Doc on this one.
I used to like Doc, not so much now.
Jj best years was not with doc
Doc lying again like usual
Awful coach and a non all star no championship players ahhh American sports 😂
Y'all say every white guy on First Take is great 🤦🏾♂️ Max and JJ ok or good by not great. Please stop that narrative.
Doc is overrated as a coach
One title is better than most coaches. It's messed up how much hate Doc gets. I hope JJ gets the Lakers head coach job so he can be under fire daily by the media. #justdesserts
You're ignorant
All this praise for jj reddick in the comments is crazy. He was a good player but doc was a better coach than jj was a player & doc was a better player than jj was a player. Stop it
Doesn't mean jj is wrong about Doc and his constant excuses. It's become a trend.
Taking the coach vs player aspect out of the equation, their player stats look pretty similar. Doc has an AS nod and JJ doesn’t for whatever that’s worth.
Wtf are you talking about? Nobody was comparing them... the point is Doc Rivers never takes accountability for his failures, yet wants credit for brushing his teeth in the morning.
First of all, how can you call someone smart, when they say as much stupid and dumb things, as JJ Redick? In my humble opinion, he’s very arrogant and dismissive of other people’s opinions.. What is your criteria for saying someone is smart?
I can’t stand JJ on First Take.
Doc will have no soft place to land, after this most recent abysmal performance.
No play off late game adjustments coaching a**
JJ Redick temper tantrum showed you any NBA team should stay far away from that guy..talk about sensitive.
It's obvious Doc Rivers SUCKS
Will JJ tell the same truths to his daddy Lebron? I hate marginal players puffing they chest to easy targets. Lebron doc x 2000.
Coaches don’t play in the Games I don’t think yall comment ppl understand 😂😂😂🤦🏽♂️ he was supposed to suit up for Giannis? Pascal stepped on Dame Foot fucked his Achilles up Doc supposed to put on a jersey? What coaching decisions could Doc have made better this playoffs for him to beat the Healthy Pacers without GA n Dame? Real answers only I hate unintelligent conversations
This is a garbage show
JJ Riddick was trash, so Doc Rivers didn’t lie
Doc Rivers is trash, so JJ Reddick didn't lie.
Rivers doesn’t know you. Get his meat out of your mouth
The first 10 seconds. "JJ Redick has been great on First Take" I stopped the video. It's a horrible take for a complete piece of trash analyst. Not worth my time Dan. JJ Redick sucks....Next.
J.j Reddick was ass in the NBA like straight cheeks some how he is going to get a coaching gig because he is popular on t.v I hope the Lakers give him the job 🤣 🤣 🤣 🤣 I really do
P.s doc rivers is ass to .