The Doc Rivers Coaching Problem
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Following the news that Doc Rivers was suddenly fired as the Philadelphia 76ers Head Coach, Coach Nick went deep into the archives to analyze whether he is a good NBA Basketball coach or not. By examining Rivers's team's consistent performance in Game 7s, we can figure out whether he's the solution, or just makes the problem worse.
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Who's here after he got the bucks job😂😂
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Bucks front office don't wanna win. Biggest L of 2024... SO FAR.
🙋🏽♂️ I was hoping the Sixers matchup with the Bucks this playoffs, but I'm unsure that'll be as fun to watch due to the recent Embiid news
It's been two weeks and I'm still pissed. The front office would've been better off going to Mike Budenholzer's house and BEGGING him to come back. Adrian Griffin never should have been hired in the first place, now we're stuck with him instead of having someone like Nick Nurse instead.
Doc Rivers calling an ISO at the 3pt line for Embiid perfectly summarizes his IQ as a coach.
embiid does not go to the block all the time
@@fadercreek Maybe he should. His playoff record speaks for itself.
@@DeanGl these players are soft now of days.....if they dont want to, they dont, then they get you fired......
Doc is the man if you want a team that had MJ23,Magic,Bird,Duncan and Shaq and have 99.9% of not winning a championship after 5 seasons.
Tell that to Jokic then. Doc is just an overrated coach period.
Sheed: "Nobody wanted to believe me. Now look." 💀
Ball don't lie!
Watching this as a bucks fan preparing myself for what’s ahead…
If your stars can actually perform, it's not gonna be a problem. Players today just rely on talent, no IQ. In this era, the players are above the coach.
@@realnsenpai "bACk iN mY dAY-🤡🤓"
Oh no, coaches have to do more than hold a clip board nowadays to be paid millions of dollars. 😑
@@realnsenpai Yeaaa, unsurprising take from a casual
@@realnsenpaibruh
Doc is the most defensive coach. He always cuts off reporters questions' and gets easily agitated.
He gets upset when you suggest he make adjustments and create gameplans like a coach should instead of letting his star players “figure it out”
That interview where he went scenario you scenario breaking down why the teams he’s coached couldn’t win was absolutely pathetic. Can’t imagine ever hiring him to coach a team after seeing that or playing for him. In his mind he’s just coached a bunch of losers
Worst coach that won a championship?
Shouldn’t have gotten another job after the clippers stint. He’s absolute garbage yet still gets job after job
Yep... and don't you dare make an officiating decision that goes against his team otherwise you'll get berated (even when they are correct)
Doc still living off the reputation of that 08 Celtics team. If he didnt win a ring in 08 with all that talent, I doubt he'd have been employed after the Clippers.
In ever-so-slight fairness to Doc's tenure in LA, he at least was WAY better than Vinny Del Negro, the coach he replaced.
(Hey, anyone else old enough to remember when Coach Nick used to talk trash about Del Negro? :] )
almost laughable... Big 3 & Rondo, Thibodeau is an assistant coach. 7 games in round 1 & 2 (losing all road games), 6 games in conference & finals. They barely won the championship
@@kaikaichen Del Negro was trash both with the bulls and the clippers
nice unoriginal reply. l0ser
ironically, the 08 Lakers gave up in Game 6 just like Doc's teams usually do
What annoys me as a Sixers fan is that I knew this was a thing before we hired him. So when we did hire him I basically knew that these years were gonna be wasted. The guy is such a horrible coach.
That one Phil Jackson clip in the finals playing Doc is still so true today... "they know how to lose"
So Doc Rivers caused Embiid and Harden to play trash?
@@joshuagregory8425 YESdoc SUCKS as a coach
@@joshuagregory8425 i mean yeah. doc's plays and adjustments had the duo taking horrible shots and forced into situations they aren't made for. note how different his play is without Embiid in game 1, and how well the team did. then notice what happened when embiid came back and Doc was working so hard to force embiid into the low post while the defense just lets itself set up immediately
I warned all sixer fans how bad he is
The first Coach Nick video I ever saw was his Clippers-Rockets Game 6 Breakdown. Time flies! Speaking of the Clippers, I'll never forget how, during their infamous meltdown at the end of Game 5 vs the Thunder, Doc spent the final two minutes screaming at the refs over a bad call ("that was our ball") instead of doing any coaching or even being engaged in the game to any degree. Even after the final buzzer sounded, he kept yelling "that was our ball" at the refs like a broken record. If that's not the definition of useless "coaching" at the most crucial time, I don't know what is
I remember that so vividly. Im surprised Nick didn't dive into the clippers series against the thunder. That game 5 still haunts me haha almost as bad as the meltdown the next year against the rockets.
Typical of DR. Not a coach at all, really.
Big Baby Davis has been saying this for YEARS - Doc Rivers is the most overrated coach of all time!
He really is. Dude has been living off of one title with 4 HOF’ers. I don’t get why he still gets jobs
@@Romanus- because he is a good coach, just not good at making adjustments. He probably shouldnt be a head coach imo, but could be valuable coaching staff
@@enterpassword3313lmao that’s a coaches whole job. Making adjustments
Ty Lue now in dah running for Overrated trophy.
@@kenesealo7982 not a coaches whole job it’s a part. Similar to a player and shooting. Good for someone juss not as the head of the snake
This was one of the most epic takedowns I've ever seen of a coach in any sport. Good job.
Embiid & Harden are again blaming others
Embiid been throwing teammates under the bus for the last 3 years.
Every single postseason has been the same; blame someone else.
Didn't he claim he was the best player in the world only several weeks ago?
@@tropickmanonly in regular season where teams barely play any defense. that's why Embiid can just run the same play and score points as he wanted to in regular season
As a coach, when James Harden joins your team, you can start looking for a new job. Dude is a wrecking ball and messes up every team.
@@tropickman and besides Doc, Harden is to blame for the loss. I literally predicted Harden would keep the Sixers from making it out of the second round IN THE PRESEASON. In Game seven he was 3-11 for 9 points and had five turnovers with his seven assists. In game six, Harden was 4-16 for 13 points and again had five turnovers. In game two, Harden was 2-14 for 12 points. This is what Harden always does in the playoffs, because he spent over a decade staying up partying and has never had proper respect for the game to be in playoff condition physically or mentally.
@@maxmeier532 that’s not true…. Ok it’s definitely true
He's a coach that got lucky enough to get carried by a lot of talent but deeper in the playoffs is where true coaches shine with adjustments, line up changes, and different schemes
Yep his offenses are so stagnant and how he failed to adjust at all to the Celtics counter to the pick and roll is just baffling, unbelievable how he’s kept jobs
He gave Owners, GMs and high-profile media like S.A Smith BJ'S.
He made a ton of adjustments. As did Boston.
If James won't shoot a floater that's not on Doc. If Embiid can't get position on Marcus Smart that's not on Doc. I never saw Shaq let someone push him out to 15 feet. He sealed them 3 feet from the basket and put them in the stanchion
Btw go listen to Thinking Basketball and the Dunker Spot if you don't understand what adjustments were made and care to learn. (Two best basketball podcasts by far.) Or listen to anything Tim Legler is on.
@@michaelahurt Embiid was getting to the post but Williams being the backside help for Horford made it difficult. They took away the PNR cause Horford would not even follow Harden he ran back to Embiid once that happened it was on Doc to come up with a counter play to soften that defensive coverage. I blame Harden more than Embiid cause the C's made a huge point to take him away and yeah he helped them a little by not forcing some of the action. Game 6 is where Doc negligence should be in full display Embiid didn't get the ball for 3 minutes in that 4th quarter. FYI: I think Thinking Basketball is the best. Coach here shows his biases a lot especially to players he doesn't like.
@@stretch1681 He was catching at 15-18 feet. That’s an iso not a post up. He never really works for post position.
I agree it’s on Harden more. He wasn’t even looking at the rim even without Rob.
But Embiid looked disinterested from minute 1 of game 7 and he completely let go of the rope in the third. There were no offensive rebounding attempts. No post seals or attempts to get deep position. Obviously the defense was atrocious which is just hilarious since it’s the whole reason people said he was MVP
With Doc, I mean, it’s a pick and roll offense. Harden-Embiid PnR *is* the offense. They aren’t gonna start running Miami’s sets with Tobias as Jimmy Butler. But they did get into it different ways and make small adjustments throughout the series. They put Maxey on the weak side. Harris. PJ. Embiid got switches and just bailed. If players don’t relocate, don’t cut, don’t screen off ball … If we know to do that at the YMCA I’m just not buying that pros don’t know to do that unless the coach is directing them. And anyway Philly was on Boston’s end so it’s not like the coaches could communicate with them anyway. It’s not Doc’s fault Harden was passing like he just got moved up to varsity and spraying passes worse than Tim Tebow. It’s not Doc’s fault they missed open three after open three.
Even on defense, Boston *wants* two on the ball. Switching is smart. Embiid just has to be better. But they *did* try lots of things. Boston just made every shot.
Game 6, I mean Embiid was in the PnR 4 times in the last 3 minutes. It’s not like Doc was calling sets for Tobias. He even got a switch with Brown but didn’t even call for the ball. That’s James not Doc. And btw they got good shots until James’ missed layup (where he ignored Brown on Embiid) and turnover the next play before they could run anything. But saying ‘Doc didn’t get Embiid the ball’ when he’s in every action is disingenuous
@Michael Hurt you sound like you are trying to absolve Doc Rivers of all the blame and say it's completely Embiid and Harden's fault
As a clippers fan, I am going to sit back and enjoy these 20 minutes of pure Glenn Rivers slander
im over here with you bro
No adjustment doc
its not slander if its all true :)
@@jake6509 Kids today have no idea what slander means
Same 🤝
Doc Rivers is an amazing coach for the opposing team 🤣
What a career he had, with only such a capability. It is inspirational.
Yeah! If Doc Rivers can be an NBA coach, then any of us can do anything!
If Doc Rivers is a boxer, he would be called a journey man. Great analysis by the way.
I strongly believe that the 2008 championships was won by the Celtic players and Tom Thibodeau, who was the assistant head coach during the time.
and by the referees
Right, Thibs was the brains behind that defense.
@@terryx3ha dont cry lakers
Every dog has his day. 08 was it for Doc.
@@xaviervega468 rivers ain't a dog though he's a slug
The 2008 title run seems like even more of a miracle now. The Celtics were awful in the first 2.5 rounds. How did they pull it together in the Finals? Was it the Celtics big 3 going into business for themselves? Doc made coaching adjustments? Lakers choked? How did Doc pull this off?
Thibs as assistant coach made great defensive adjustments. Celtics greatly missed his presence in the early 2010s, and the Bulls where Thibs went made a big leap defensively.
Truth is.. When Superstars performs.. Team rises.. Celts 08 has KG & Pierce who were Tough as Nail competitor.. Rondo was a sneaky genius X & O pointguard.. Doc seems to be a Player & Media pleaser all this time.. NOT a bench Tactician... when face w/ Playoff Pressure & challenges.. he melts
Lucky with 3 HOF playoffs that'll won him 1 and only championship in 2008.
Lakers in the 08 finals didn’t have Bynum and Ariza due to injuries, they get Gasol via trade, that Celtics team with Pierce, Allen KG and a young uprising Rondo with that deep bench and a defensive minded coaching staff of Thibs.
That 2008 Celtics team is the most overrated championship team in history.
They went 7 games against a Cavs team with no other star outside LBJ with LBJ averaging 5 turnovers a game on sub 40 shooting and 7 games against a Hawks team led by Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, Mike Bibby
I wonder how the Bucks came to this decision.
D.E.I.
Finally someone says what I’ve been trying to tell everyone around me. All this “wanting it more” myth is some BS. Most of the times it’s down to executing and planning a game plan well enough. Doc isn’t the guy for that.
I always felt Doc Rivers was the most overrated coach of all time, and Mike D'antoni the most under-appreciated coach of all time. I blame Stephen A Smith for both. Always hyping Doc no matter what and always trashing D'antoni. I think it's a flat out disgrace that the whole league ended up playing like the Phoenix Suns after D'antonis run there and then the whole league ended up playing like the Houston Rockets after Danton's stint there and the dude gets no love or credit other than from all the coaches who stole from him. Coaches like Eric Spolstra and Steve Kerr have talked about his importance and influence. He's hands down the most influential coach of the last 20 years and yet has never gotten his dues from the media. Doc Rivers who has never contributed anything to coaching gets a lot more respect and love from the big media personalities like SAS for some reason. Props for pointing out the flaws in one of the most protected coaches by the media in any sport.
hate to say it and I love Stephen A myself, but he does have his racial bias for the black coaches and always tries to convince people that white coaches in the league are privileged with an unfair advantage in getting to coach desirable roster.
Ill give D'antoni credit for being a great offensive mind. But it ends there
We need a deep dive on the D'Antoni Phoenix Suns, one of the most exciting teams to watch in NBA history. Please someone make it happen. Calling on all the great RUclips channels out there.
@@hkarmy96 One of the best coaches no doubt overall. He just lost to great teams no shame in that.
Yep. It took a stupid suspension to destroy his chances of a championship
I love how this video showed how consistent the mistakes Doc coached teams make through different eras and teams
That’s how u know it’s legit, when it’s the same thing at different times, different players, and different teams. What’s the one thing they all have in common? Doc Rivers.
@@MerkhVision yup, thats why I always thought people who defended Doc for his teams always folding in the playoffs weren't paying enough attention
Cause if they were they would have seen how consistent the mistakes were
@@MerkhVision You know what they also have all in common? Bunch of chokers without Doc too.
Who's re-watching this , after he weaseled his way in to the Bucks head coaching job?
Weaseled is spot on. 😂
First 4 games as the Bucks' replacement coach and he blew four double digit leads with a 1-3 record. LMAO what the fck were they thinking getting the coach with the worst track record in the playoffs ever lol🤣😂💀
Doc Rivers was one of the most disappointing coaches during this playoffs
That Game 7 loss to the Celtics isn't on him. Embiid played passively and James was a no show. They both gave up.
@@upfulsoul826It's not entirely on him but at this point, it's hard to ignore. Something should be wrong if almost every time you're in a do or die game, you come out losing on many of these
@@upfulsoul826 thats why the coach's job is important. Hes supposed to make those passive and no show mentallity on a 180
@@joesescuzar61 No stars are stars because they have the talent to play well consistently. If they give up there's nothing a coach can do. PJ Tucker plays as hard as it gets and he couldn't motivate them either.
He was doing great for the first round and the first 5 games of the Semis. And then Vintage Doc came in.
“Doc has been coaching for 24 straight seasons which is exactly why he should be drinking Athletic Greens” 😂 love the plug coach
As a clippers fan, this video is like reliving my worst nightmares😭
Yep, same here. His teams have a long history of chronically underperforming, especially when the going gets tougher in the playoffs. That's clearly a reflection of a COACHING PROBLEM. The lack of fundamental soundness of the players, the weird rotations; those defects were there to be seen ALL ALONG.
What I find most amazing is not the obvious conclusion that DR is a poor coach, but that so many NBA franchises have chosen to ignore the red flags and hire him anyway!
And how well has your team done since then??
Thanks for the breakdown, coach.
Been saying for years. All the blame on Embiid for this playoffs when Rivers has a history of fumbling series lead.
Lol you can’t be serious. Embiid plays like he’s 6’1
@@_lamar5059 Because Doc Rivers always let him ISO at the 3pt line. He’s not that type of player, yet Doc Rivers never put his foot down.
@@_lamar5059 Embiid is so ridiculously talented (frequently injured) but at his best is the most unguardable player in the league. He could be utilized better by a better coach. Also their GM outside of picking him and Maxey have failed at almost every other pick/trade. Fultz, Simmons, Butler leaving, Bridges traded, whole thing has been a disaster.
@@codyjackson245 at his best he’s still not the guy. It’s Jokic and Steph.
@@codyjackson245He's not though because you just send doubles at him. He's actually really easy to guard in the playoffs.
He doesn't get transition baskets, he rarely gets deep post position and seals, he always takes a second to survey every time he catches the ball so the defense can recover, he doesn't anticipate double teams and is easily fooled by late doubles, he gets easily frustrated if he isn't scoring, his floor mapping is only okay when he sees doubles
I mean we just watched two teams take him apart. He's a regular season player who is worse in the playoffs year after year. Same with Harden.
Embiid Reg Season vs Playoffs
FG% - 50% to 46%
PTS/FGA - 1.52 to 1.44
AST:TO - 1.01 to 0.76
Perkins is the embodiment of minimal effort. Espn should be embarrassed.
A trash player fr
Rasheed Wallace said it perfectly Doc doesn't know how to make adjustments when his team needs it.
Literally in 2020 Clippers vs Nuggets, Jokic exploited Montrezzl Harrel. Yet even after the Nuggets tied the series after being up 3-1, he didnt do anything about it. Also how do you let PG play so poorly for so many minutes. I believe Doc might've had something to do with it since PG cheated on his daughter.
@geefry herrera You know what else is funny? After Doc Rivers insisted that Montrezl was better than Zubac, these past few seasons, Doc barely played him. What happened to that faith in Trezz? Lol
Paul George Said Doc wanted him to do catch and shoot 3s like he was ray Allen lmaooo that ain't PG game paul need the ball in his hand to get a rhythm to score.
This is an awesome compilation of film. It might be easy to say Doc is a bad coach, but breaking down why is a complex task. Clearly well researched and great presentation
One of the best videos you've made and I've been here since 2013. Appreciate the in depth research and combing the archives to bring us this breakdown!
Whenever I see a Doc Rivers team especially in the playoffs, I think of: "how are they gonna blow this game this time?". Like he's had many good teams and yet produced only one championship from them. Something must be wrong if this keeps happening to his teams
And what do those teams have in common after blowing 3-1 leads? Choke Rivers that's who! You can't tell or convince me that after coaching so many talented players and teams that they were always the problem when Choke Rivers all coached them, you know he's the main reason, if not the biggest reason why those teams lost time and again.
If your players are struggling, you have to game plan around that. Look at Miami. They don't have the most talented roster in the East, but Spoelstra knows how to maximize talent. Doc can't make any adjustments. As soon as the Harden/Embiid pick and roll got figured out by Boston he had nothing else. That's a bad coach
Miami have three really good players.
@@upfulsoul826 And Philly has two MVPs
@@upfulsoul826 Miami is like the Duncan Spurs. They only keep players who buy in and are coachable.
Totally agree. He's not an NBA level coach, clearly. He's substandard. I doubt that he would even make a good college coach. With his meltdowns, I don't think he should even be involved in coaching at all. He just can't control himself.
Thank God for Rasheed. Been saying the same thing about Doc. He doesn't seem to be able to make in game adjustments. For example. When he was with the Clippers and he kept double teaming Joker. And Joker was absolutely killing him with backdoor passes and cuts to the basket off of double teams. I was screaming stop doubling Joker! Take your chances on a contested Joker jumps shot over a layp. Full disclosure Sixer fan here watched a majority of thier games this year and if the high pick and roll with Harden and Embid was not working. I couldn't tell what else the hell he was running. He was running a hope strategy as in if the pick and roll isn't working. I hope Maxey can make a three. I watched the Laker game the other night and I noticed how Hamm took Davis off Joker and let Hachimura play him on the perimeter and let Davis come to help after Joker started to dribble and it worked. Joker's only points in the 4th quarter came off free throws. Never seen Doc make such an obvious adjustment. Maybe he has. I Damm sure didn't see it. Doc is a good man we all agree. But he's a bad basketball coach. He was in shock the last game his head just wasn't in the game. I saw a man thinking " what are people going to say if I lose another game 7." Well he doesn't have to wonder anymore.
sooo on point
This video just broke down everything I have been saying about Doc Rivers for the last ten years in twenty minutes. Doc Rivers I a good regular season coach. He has a voice that everyone in the NBA respects. He is a good person, and he clearly knows the game of basketball. But when it comes down to the nitty gritty, Doc Rivers is not the guy you want in your corner. Doc Rivers and Chris Paul are the same person. The only difference between the two is that one is on the court, and the other one is on the side line.
Doc Rivers is the perfect coach for a team that needs to develop its players. He would be the perfect coach for a team like the Charlotte Hornets, Orlando Magic, Detroit Pistons, etc. But if you are an organization looking for a coach to help you get over the hump, Doc Rivers will only stall your franchise into disappointment.
I believe the tell that we all missed was Danny Ainge willingly trading the rights to Doc to LA. What we saw was that a coach was worth trading for. What we missed is the Clippers were dumb enough to trade for a coach and Ainge didn't think twice.
Good call!
@Ryan Sproviero Danny Ainge is the ultimate finesser.
Ainge knew what he was doing; unloading a substandard coach was a GREAT MOVE!
For all ainges smart moves that might be the best
Whenever Ainge gives you a present, watch out for the Greeks:P
Thank you coach Bballbreakdown for exposing Doc. I have never ever been a fan of Doc and I thank God I have never supported any team Doc coached because I would have had a nervous breakdown 20 years ago. Honestly, I have been bagging Doc for years and years that he is a phony coach and I could never understand why so many people, especially on media like S A Smith keep holding Docs balls like he does with Mark Jackson the man who had a goldmine and has never had a NBA job since. Like the facts don't lie, if you want to fail you simply hire Dic Rivers. It's not like Doc did not have talented players? He had HOF, MVP, All-Stars, Top 3 draft picks, and in 24 years 1 ring and as you pointed out in the video, most of the players did their own thing, so luckily that Boston team was smart enough and had enough talent to not listen to Doc. Doc is the worst investment in the NBA, a team full of bright stars to only have a year wasted year after year. How many game 7 blowouts, how many 3-1 and 3-2 leads were lost. Do you know why Doc got exposed all the time in the playoffs, it's simply because he is a con man, everyone knows by playoff time, it is about making adjustments, and coaches and teams know most of the common actions and plays of opposing teams, it's about substitutions when to take time outs which Doc has no-clue in playoff situations. When you consider Doc is one of the highest-paid coaches, he has a team full of MVPS, he is the worst investment in the history of the NBA. Hire him if you want to fail!
That Celtics team was lucky they also had Rondo. Dude probably knew better plays to run than whatever Doc drafted.
Bingo!
Dic Rivers 😅
Can't wait for the sequel to this video... #Bucks
In their first year without doc, the clippers went further than they ever had in the playoffs.
As soon as Doc Got Fire paul george legit had the best playoffs run. Ty lue know how to get the best out of his guys
Finally! This is what I've been waiting for! This 19 mins video goes to show that coach Nick take this seriously.
Damn Doc, I'm sad and at the same time not surprised for him.
For me a sixers fan since the day the sixers hired Doc and the moment the clippers blew a 3-1 lead, I should of known
@Matt Ferrer Yep. The 76ers hired Doc a few days after he was let go by the Clippers and I still don't know why. How do you watch his Clippers tenure and think he is the coach to lead your roster to a championship? Unbelievable
I remember an interview from maybe last season or this season where a Philly reporter asked Doc a question and Doc's response was "Would you ask Pop (Gregg Popovich) that question?"
Ikr. Dude is over his head thinking he's even on Pop's level. I'm not sure why he's on the list of official all-time coaches tbh.
What amazed me the most watching all these epic melt downs, was how much talent this guy has had on his teams. Multiple top 10 players every year, and the only time he won is with one of the best teams ever assembled with that KG Celtics team. So over rated!
Yes! And yet, teams continued to hire him! Why?? Was there something going on behind the scenes that we don't know about?
this video must be shared to NBA teams... very well explained and documented proof that Coach doc isnt really as a great coach as what ESPN is saying to all of us...
Do you think they don't know? No, but unless most ppl know this,they will pretend that they don't know.
It reminds me of a certain coach tactics called "Bara-Bara system" ; The tactic is simplistic, if the play won't work, let the players filled the gap or used their athletic and talent prowess to complete the play and adjustments which is works a lot in a low level basketball competition but don't work in NBA or world class competition. Docs over reliance in players is his key to his early success but also his demise because of his lack of adjustments made on the spot.
Just like him "choker" 😂
Nanalo lang isa laki na ulo, malaki kasi kapit
Chot Reyes?
I'm talking about the all coaches of the world; same thing to any kinds of popular sports not only in basketball.
Chot Reyes catching strays for no reason 🤣
Edit: but you're right anyways, because that mf been known for blowing too many leads in crucial moments
While I think that Doc is an upgrade over Adrian Griffin, I'm worried that these same issues will arise in the postseason. He has spent a little time away, so maybe he's had some time to reflect? I don't know, I'm optimistic and extremely concerned all at the same time.
doc is absolutely not an upgrade over adrian griffin
The man coached more all stars with only one ring to show
Honestly, I don't know how Doc Rivers didn't get fired after the infamous 2015 game 6 meltdown.
He was gifted a vintage James Harden playoff performance, 5-20 FG with a 1-7 in the 3rd to help the Clippers build a 13 point lead. I still can't believe how they botched that game.
He still had a lot of goodwill at that point for his leadership during the Sterling debacle. I think he’s probably a decent guy, but not very self aware and obviously not a great coach.
That 2008 chip he got gave him some mileage these years.
True story. His worthless son got to have an NBA career because of that chip.
Say it with me folks, Coach Nick has the BEST DAMN sponsor transitions in the game by a mile!!!
Side note: Doc make sure to get your 1-year free supply of AGI travel packs to prep for your next coaching gig.
From all the videos I watch on YT, coach Nick's videos are the ones that most deserve my likes. Watching you since your first bb analysis videos. Please keep it up coach!
The more I see his numbers, the greater the Boston's Big 3 look (KG, PP, Ray).
That team went a full seven games the first 2 rounds. Atlanta#8 and Lebron's Cavs.
thats because Rondo was coaching the team back then
I hadn't veen around the vids for a while. It made me smile to see again a nice ad transition.
The 7-0 run at the start of the 2nd in Sixers - Celtics game 7 was already unforgiveable. He really needed to call timeout after the 5-0 with how well the Celtics were making shots and the way the crowd was getting into it, that Maxey turnover was the pebble that started the avalanche, and it was 95% on Doc not calling a timeout fast enough. I know 5-0 isn't a big run yet but given the scenario it felt like it was, with the Celtics stars both cooking and the Sixers not having gotten much out of either Harden or Embiid yet. Doc needed to get a response out there fast, or at least kill momentum as quickly as possible, and neither happened.
Yes. I've seen that happen before. I came across some old footage of the 1966 playoffs between the Celtics and the Royals. The Royals outplayed Russell's Celtics in the first half, were leading, and looked pretty good doing it, too.
In the 2nd half, the Celtics Russell blocked a silly shot by Adrian Smith, who foolishly went right at Russell (something that the coach should have taught him NEVER to do!) and that got that famous Celtics fast break going for an easy layup at the other end.
It was easy to see what was coming next. Yet, the Royals coach, Jack McMahon, failed to react by calling a timeout. Doing so at that moment would have stopped the Celtics dead in their tracks. But he didn't, and the Celtics began to full court press and harass, causing turnovers, and it worked. They got more fast break points and easy layups, and they blew the Royals off the floor.
Jack McMahon failed his team by letting things get out of control. It must have been very frustrating for the Royals players because THEY were actually the BETTER TEAM that day and could have won that game fairly easily! The Royals had played VERY well the first half and were clearly the better team. The only way Boston was able to crack them was with that damned fast break and a clueless coach! The Royals lost the NBA Eastern Division Semifinals (2-3) versus the Boston Celtics. To this day, I think that with a better coach, they could have won that series.
Sixers gonna choke just as bad next year. Blame Doc all you want now, you're gonna be booing them just the same.
Man, this was hard to watch. Those Clippers meltdowns were so crazy. I’m sure he’s going to get another coaching job, but hopefully he can adjust accordingly.
he wont make adjustments, you're right he'll get another hc.job, teams stupid to always take this hack coach.
He won't.
He has shown to not adjust for 20 yesrs. What makes you think he will now
He'll get one in Taiwan
Why would ANY team give him a chance? nah.
Bravo! A bullet point summary at the end showing his specific blunders would have been helpful. Nonetheless, your commentary was clear, on-point, illustrated, and delivered well.
I cannot believe the bucks hired him
the “really?”s and “oof”s you added were funny asf😂
I hope he gets another chance with another nba team next year for two reasons. 1. Everybody loves a redemption arc. 2. If he loses again it would continue to be hilarious and entertaining
No he needs to leave and stay out, he had 2 decades of a chance. He’s hurting a lot of players’ careers. Cp3 could’ve possibly won a chip or at least went further in the playoffs with that clippers team. Amongst other players, that were shorted. Idk how it’s entertaining to see a team be a shell of itself in the highest stages because of bad coaching…
didn't watch... the whole video huh lol.
Hes on a mission to be the only person to coach every team
23 years of chances, many with loaded teams.
Win-win
That zoom in on Doc in the beginning was very revealing indeed
youtube algorithm doing the lords work rn
Wow very detailed breakdowns. I didn't know how bad his coaching has been until I watched this video. Again, great job! I could see all the sweat and hard work you put in overflowing from the video. love it and will watch it again.
I would also love to know about Coach Monty Williams. How has his coaching been? He seems to be such a nice guy, so much so that I rooted for the Suns solely because of him (originally only had neutral feelings).
Tbh this video was cherry picked and biased.I lost respect for this channel
@@BoosterGoldEarth6 lol stopdoc SUCKS as a coach
That Clippers team in 2015 should have lost to the Spurs.
Yet people were so quick to hate on PG when he said it in 2020… 🤦♀️🤦♂️
Finally, someone's talking about the real issues in Philly. The issues with their playoff struggles in recent years are as follows. 1. Ownership/Front Office. 2. Coaching (Brown, Rivers) 3. Simmons/bad roster construction. 4. Embiid's/Harden's performances/health in the playoffs. How Doc escapes the heat everywhere he goes is mind blowing. This man made a healthy Kawhi a playoff choker, and he has shown his true colors across several different rosters at this point.
Lost in the analysis of the 76ers Hawks series was that before that Game 7, Philly blew an 18 point second half lead in lieu to a loss in Game 4, and then a 26 point late third/early 4th quarter lead in lieu to a loss in Game 5. They tied the series 3-3 after a rookie Tyrese Maxey hit some big buckets late in that game, so naturally Doc had him on the bench for the veteran George Hill in Game 7 who provided little comparatively. Blown leads and veteran favoritism are signature Doc issues everywhere he's gone. He's a remarkably bad coach for a team that wants to go all the way, and even with how things ended these past playoffs, a lot more of the focus seems to be on Embiid and Harden. While I don't give them a pass, this coach brings out the worst in all of his players and somehow always manages to skate by unaccountable.
Doc seems to benefit from serious cronyism among the media heads and I hope Embiid doesn't get run out of Philly for peanuts over it. I'm still curious to see Embiid operate in a not so overly toxic environment for once. He simply hasn't had the opportunity, regardless of his own individual shortcomings in the playoffs during his career.
How Rivers is still getting coaching jobs is absolutely insane to me. He’s living off of a championship from 15 years ago that likely would have won with any decent coach. How dumb do GM’s have to be to keep giving this guy jobs when he’s choked damn near every year since he left the Celtics
I’ve been waiting for this like Christmas morning 😂
I have been waiting for this video the past 20 years. Doc has been conning NBA GM's and Owners for the last 24 years. Fact is hire him if you want to fail.
@@MrYoumitube bro is riding the fact that he won 1 chip with 3 hall of famers who were in their prime 😂😂😂😂
That AG1 plug was smooth lmao
hes always been a master of the smooth plug. Its honestly crazy how hard he gets me some times
I have a friend who was a rookie on a doc coached clipper team and he said he NEVER made any adjustments. Two funny anecdotes:
1. After a loss to the Milwaukee Bucks when they gave up the lead, he came into the locker room and went "well damn Giannis is pretty fucking good isnt he, lets get out of here"
2. Before a play off game an assistant coach had drawn up some game plan stuff on the whiteboard and Pat Bev walked up to the board, erased it, and drew up a new game plan. That team had zero respect for the coaching staff.
Doc was described as a manager, not a coach, and he would never speak in practice. After hearing that, then watching them melt down against the Nuggets, i had zero surprise. Excellent video.
Can't wait for the update at the end of his time with the Bucks
I’m Austin Rivers and I endorse this assessment of Glenn “not a doctor” Rivers
Spot on. That Celtics team won a chip despite Doc. The Clippers consistent shortcomings with the lob city trio is the most damning evidence.
10:25 I remember my high school was also coaching his son's 3rd grade team at the time and he told us he would even be mad at them for not knowing who they're guarding.
Whats even more mind boggling is that he keeps getting hired as if he is this "GREAT" coach
Given his track record, it's more than safe to say he is (maybe very) overrated.
Yes, and SUBSTANDARD.
And now another contender has given him a chance at the helm. I’ll never understand how this man keeps getting hired.
Put all his skill points into charisma and none into coaching
i love the investigation music Coach! great work!
Thanks you Coach, for the amazing content as always
The @MilwaukeeBucks didnt watch this....
I'd like to see breakdowns of the game 7s that Doc won, (1st and 2nd round for 2008 celtics, 2015 clippers 1st round) and see if those were results of playoff heroics by the players or good coaching. I'd say its the former.
NGL that was one of the smoothest transitions in and out of an AD i've ever seen😂💯
Thx for bringing back the regular music. The music syncing to the video's I always found was a lil bit wack
Only Doc Rivers will recommend Doc Rivers to be the Head coach of a winning team. Oh wait..
Doc Rivers is not a good coach. No toughness nor tactics. Terrible collapses and embarrassing moments. All his teams are weak. The Sixers organization is also weak-minded. That’s why they hired Doc as their lapdog. No one plays to their potential under Doc.
The more I see from doc, the more impressed I am with the 2008 celtics. Especially since they had a 3-2 lead in every series in the playoffs
@Samuel Villa Yeah that 08 Celtics team was absolutely stacked, both in the starting lineup and the bench. Sam Cassell and PJ Brown were amazing vets for that team.
Embiid was the MVP the last time I checked. James even had two 40+ games in the Celtics series. He mentored Ty Lue. He's a good coach but not a great coach.
@@upfulsoul826
So what? It's a team game. If you can't put the MVP in positions where he can maximize his talent, then you're not a good coach. Miami has done it with significantly less because they have an actual all-time great coach.
@@yajeel yeah but embiid had 15 points and 9 for harden you expect him to win?
Ok I know coach Nick is legendary in his ad transition but this one really got me outta nowhere. Freaking legend coach Nick.
Can't wait for part 2 in a few years
Doc “The Choke Artist” Rivers, back at it😂😂😂
It feels like the only play Philly ran during the Celtics run was Harden pnr. Harden kept making the right pass to the corner but those shots weren't falling. They absolutely needed a bucket and their best option was PJ and Daniel House corner 3s? They called timeouts but didn't even get a proper ATO set. Just more pnr. At least that was my impression watching it live
A player coach is an overvalued title because it doesn't seriously matter if you played before what matters is your character relateability and gaining respect from the players to where they'll listen to you.Doc is the example for why player coaches shouldn't be held in high regard because most times them being a former pro has them being in ego contest with current players n they get very prideful.He really needs to sit out for a few years then maybe teams should consider him
This was done really well, great situational evidence. I'd love to hear your thoughts on what Doc did well during his championship year.
Clippers fan here. He cost us at least two finals trips.
Cope. Kawhi and PG shit the bed. He called like 5 timeouts and made a bunch of adjustments in the 4th quarter when you started getting blown out. Nothing worked
Celtics fan here, he cost us a game 7 championship win.
And a healthy KG.
Pretty sure Doc is the only coach in history to ever be traded from one team to another.
Excellent research and analysis - thank you
This goes to show how incompetent some teams are at recruiting talented coaches, Docs been getting chances that no one else would for over a decade.
Yep, that's what I say. Those teams were clearly not doing their homework. The reasons why are maybe not so clear.
Doc had a miracle team in 2008. He was able to win a championship while being a terrible coach. He bamboozled everyone especially the media. They called Doc one of the greatest coach and is a first ballot hall of famer. Thats why he keeps getting hired by these teams who believe everything the media says about him.
He had a strong team and a great assistant coach where he could coast along.
Because he is being protected by mainstream media., i dont understand why they cant criticize his coaching the way some coaches are being criticized (d'antoni, bud, brett brown)
Best quote I've ever heard about (a) Doc Rivers (team) came from Phil Jackson during a 4th qtr timeout in a Lakers vs. Celtics game: "They know how to lose."
you earned a subscriber here. well made content 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
And this is who the bucks decided to hire 😭😭