Customer didn't want to Pay! He Hated my Concrete Work!
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- Опубликовано: 19 янв 2024
- Join Tim and his crew as they deal with the worst client they have ever had before! This client was rude disrespectful and didn't want to pay and things got heated! If you havnt seen part 1 make sure to go back to stay updated on the whole story!
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A "Contract" is a binding legal document, put a lien against his home for amount unpaid, plus 20% for legal fees. Being a so called "contractor" himself, he knows what's coming. Don't allow him to get away with anything.
When you put the lien against his house be sure to add interest on it that might be something that might make it your house in the end.
Here in Colorado, a lien can result in a foreclosure on a property! Install a lien asap!
Do it bro. Don't let him get away with this!
100% any lawyer can help you for very little. You need what's called a "mechanic's lein" in most states. That's exactly what you do.
Am also a contractor / supplier. We need to stop guys like this. Lien the house and sue the f man... I know other contractors doing the same thing.. royalmoon pools watch out.. this year going after all contractors n home owners. Stand up u do good work get paid for it. His don this before n banks on the other guy just living it alone go after him. Just takes few clicks n hundred bucks to lien. Small claims court not bad do it.
Bro, he never intended to pay you from day 1. It was 100% a scam. You should sue him for the rest of your money. The job was perfect. Absolutely beautiful
I agree . you should have sued him .
Nothing better then a homeowner standing behind you telling you how to do your job .
but this guy does know better hahahaha
Ha! Yep, makes the day longer and when someone’s over your shoulder all day. I had one bloke set up a deck chair and esky with some frothy lamb chops to watch the magic happen. He was chill though, even insisted we shared a few of his frothies with us at the end of the day. 🍻
I'm a drywall contractor, and I've been doing drywall for over 40 years.
My brother asked me to look at a patch job with him. Water damage on a ceiling.
Someone tried fixing it before.
When I walked into the house, the elderly woman said that she could see it in her sleep.
I turned around and walked back outside.
I told my brother that I didn't want anything to do with that job.
He asked why? I told him if she could see it in her sleep, we could never satisfy her.
He didn't listen to me. He went and fixed anyway.
He never got paid for his work and was also stuck with material bill.
You and your men did an awesome job on the slab!
We have to watch out for the so-called religious ones and the rich ones.
Also religious folk are some of the worst customers in the restaurant business. Very rude and dont tip
tell your brother to sue that woman
If i didn't get paid then that patch job would had look like it did just before the job was done
I agree 👍
I have done Concrete over 40 years. You did a dam good job. Some people are just jerks until they get punched in the face
🤣 Facts
very true i was in the music scene and got a bit popular underground, about 17 yrs ago a guy in california was basically trying to online bully me and threaten me. he did this for 5 yr straight and i just kept blocking him. eventually after 17 yrs he finally got as popular as i was 17 yrs ago and toured to one of my local clubs where i knew the entire staff, and my friend was the person who booked him. although such a long time had passed i confronted him and tried to ask to put everything behind us, the guy got a attitude and before he finished even yelling at me i pushed him really hardto get enough distance to swing at him and busted his nose wide open. he had to go in theback room and walk past the crowd and sit with the other musicians trying to get his nose to stop bleeding. it humbled him pretty quick. i realize its petty at the age of 43, but hey, whatever lol
Some people are mentally unstable.
They are jerks until they get punched in the face you say. I say they're still jerks just jerks that got punched in the face and maybe more than once LOL
That’s why I’m not a cop!👮
I was a drywall contractor for forty years, and learned really quickly that if you're getting bad vibes from a customer early on its best to run before you're past the point of no return. Hard work deserves respect and full payment.
Hard work is meaningless if you don’t follow directions…
@@kellydockweiler7077 he said he did everything the customer asked!
@kellydockweiler7077 Yeah and some people just go out of there way to be A-holes.
Your probably the home owner. You're comment added nothing to the conversation but "Oh I think I'm smart and whitty" shut up you're not Ryan Reynolds@@kellydockweiler7077
You got that right. Soon as I smell an asshole, my estimate is so high they will get some other - sucker.
I owned a landscaping company, in our contracts we would add the wording. After signing if the customer wanted to change anything then a new contract would be written up with an added 10% fee.
Looks fantastic,I'd be tempted to dig 60% of it back up.
For those of you wondering it was 40% That's what the customer paid Odelle. I had to scroll through the comments for an hour to finally find it 😂 Great work on a successful job well done minus the stiffing of full payment, and congratulations on a very successful video.
Thanks 🤣
Lawsuit required. The video evidence of a job well done is here.
It's sad that people do this hence why I have a comstruction business if funds aren't paid I send in my under world cuzns and trust me they pay
sounds like only payed for the concrete no setup, dump fees ,materials , pump truck or labor etc.
Wow!... and the guy is a contractor?... 40% percent is rebar, framing, concrete and pouring alone... and there was a last minute change order request by the customer!
Just a little advice... Doing concrete work is tough. But structure your payments as follows 30% up front, 30% when all the form work is done, 30% when the concrete shows up, 10% on final inspection. And 15% labor increase on any change plus extra materials cost multipled by 3. People like him take advantage of honest professionals like you.
What formwork does he need for floors mate, he's not doing slabs or decks.
@@tclanjtopsom4846what are you talking about? You don’t see where the concert went? They didn’t just poor it on the ground and hope for the best. All that prep is the form work
@@_K_W I think this dumb ass know it all thought he was talking about paperwork.. like city permit forms or something lol
He literally explained about a forms issue in the video
How much in just labor do you guys charge per square feet on a job this size? I have 1100 sq ft to be done.
40% is to much, lawsuit required. you guys worked incredibly hard and did a fantastic job, id be giving you guys a tip for such a good job, its hard enough finding good contractors. you need to name and shame the customer so other contractors know to avoid him.
Full credits to you for responding well to all his planned entrapment. You got the gist of the grift possible, and gave him nothing but quality to complain about. Full credit to you for your conduct.
Don't let him get away with it. File a lien. Even if he never pays it will follow him for quite some time. You did a fantastic job.
He may have other liens against him already ! If he has a habit of doing this !
It won't just follow him, if he ever sells the house, he has to pay the lien first. And if he files for bankruptcy the lien stays in place, he cannot get away from it.
Sometimes you can actually force a foreclosure on the house for not paying a lien.
You need to be vaping in your next video
@@giuseppemucaria1260 lol...
40% is nuts. Please hold that abuser accountable - he owes 100% plus every change order (rebar, rebar chairs, the upcharge on the 4500psi concrete, the oiling the forms, the extra labor for the 4500 psi concrete (and mark up the labor even more for “last minute” change where you had to scramble to find them)). File and perfect your mechanics lien. Take him to court - preferably small claims, if your jurisdiction permits that. With your documentation and videos, I can bet that most judges would side with you right away.
Ps: he did not “hate” your work - it was all preplanned theatre to knock down the price - seen it more than a few times in 40 years of business
I HOPE THE VIDEO POSTER SEES THIS COMMENTS DOES EXACTLY THIS
Yeah thats not right
I hope the judge reads this comment. To court I would go. We are your piers and we think this concrete looks perfectly fine.
@@mysticknight9711 You don't know it was preplanned manipulation of the price. Filing litigation for recoveries is just another cost and an unnecessary time penalty. Contractors should understand and inquire when red flags appear when quoting. The first minute of part 1 clearly shows that Odell's had those red flags but chose to ignore them. I've been licenced in construction and building houses since 16 years old, worked in the UK for 5 years and now own concrete trucks.......
Never had a bad customer in over 45 years in the building industry. 🦘
That's an awesome job. That customer simply doesn't wanna pay and probably had this planned all along. You always do a great job. If you were in my area, I'd hire you in a heartbeat. Keep up the good work
You are a very patient gentleman. Outstanding job. Retired builder/general 37 years - you guys did great!
I ran a ready mix company and was in the business for 43 years and will attest that this is first class finish.
Right on
TY
@@OdellCompleteConcrete- Just wondering 🤔… would you have been so akin to do such a perfect job if the customer hadn’t been so difficult and overbearing?
@OdellCompleteConcrete do not let him get away with this. This creep is a professional scam artist.
Left over concrete? Pour it down a clean out
dude, thats a bit rude. Have you watched any of his other videos? He does good work. What do you do for a living? Do people question your values, standards or word?@@wonderbread2364
How much did he pay? @@OdellCompleteConcrete
Do NOT let him get away with ripping you off!!! You must stand your ground. Mechanics lean are there for a reason. Beautiful job. Good luck
“Lien” but yes you’re right hopefully he gets paid there are FAR too many shady dishonest customers
Lien
😮This is what makes good tradesmen quit the trade.
Lien
liens are useless if you can't afford to foreclose them in court
That job looks great.I see all of you working very hard and taking a lot of pride in the business you have created.Great family business you have.
I work in a small engine/ small tractor repair shop. It doesn't happen often at all, but even once in a great while, if I get bad vibes (anyone in retail or a service industry knows what I mean) off someone who want's repair work done, I'll go ahead and pass and send them somewhere else. In the old day before I listened to my gut, it ALWAYS came back to bite me. You work long enough with people, you get the vibe and youre never surprised when they turn out to be a problem at the end.
I’d say the homeowner has gotten away with this before and has not been investigated or charged before. He’ll do it again until he gets a blackball from all local contractors and workers. He is an exploiter.
That's a perfect name for this jack wagon 👌
Exactly
If he's never held accountable he'll keep it up
The homeowner is definitely someone who does this to people habitually. Someday he'll find the person who retaliates with aggression when he tries to stiff them. Karma is real.
Your workmanship was great. He stiffs people often, I’ll bet.
A complaint to the registrar of contractors can't hurt if he's even a licensed contractor.
dude, when that guys came out screaming at you in the beginning, that was a perfect sign to leave.
Exactly!! Ain’t no grown ass man going to be yelling at me. I’d cut my losses there and left his stupid house.
easier said then done
I would’ve left and kept the fucking money
It's a really bad position that he was put in. He could have gone with his gut when it told him that this guy is trouble, but the cement trucks and laborers were all there expecting payment too. He should have parted ways when the guy demanded 4500 psi at the last minute.
@@Rwarner4545 guy is already in the hole for excavation, form work, reo steel..
all the setup work done, time and money..
I used to do concrete work alongside expert concrete finishers (I was a form carpenter but helped out when the project supers said to do it). You have nothing to be worried about here and excellent attitude on your part - very professional per your description. Customer should not change specs so late in the project especially with materials that change setting and finishing times. You should get full pay plus upcharges on all changes.
I wish you were in my area so I could hire you and your excellent crew for a job I might need done - super work and a shame you were treated so poorly.
People are scandalous. The homeowner knew what his whole plan was. You guys do great work. 👍🏽
Yeah that’s what I thought as well. Ty though!
Yup. He’s a scammer. He knew what he was doing.
Lien on his house. Your work is impeccable and although there are 2 side of the story… guy seems like a idiot.
@@OdellCompleteConcrete I would post his name, and business name, and sue him for the remainder of the agreed upon money, AND pain and suffering, and loss of time.
Yep SMDH
I was a painting contractor. I was only treated like this once. It was General remodeling his own home. He tried to burn everyone who worked on it. He was heavily in debt and ended up getting foreclosured on and losing everything. I found out later that the contractor who made the cabinets beat the crap out of him about 6 months later.
Do you recommend a a concrete startup gets a contract made by a lawyer or get one free from online I really need help deciding what to do? DId you get a lawyer to make your contract or did you make yours ?
Just a sad unhappy man no respect for you and your hard working men hs is lost
@@jorgeblue See if nolo has something
I'm sure that guy's life is a mess and you paid the price. I've been in business since 1985 and have seen a lot of concrete work. You and your team have always impressed me. Very professional and high quality
Sounds like the customer thought of every way for you guys to fail. In the end, you guys did an awesome job.
I'm a retired general contractor, over 40 years of experience. Built too many houses to count, and pour a whole lot of flatwork with my crew. This is a about the best I;ve seen. Great work for sure!
That was a technical concrete job which was executed very well. The forming looked correct, the grading appeared very accurate, the rebars were evenly spaced and on chairs, pitching all those surfaces into the drains with what looks like minimal slopes and working around all those obstacles with 4500 psi mud and putting a beautiful finish on it with all the edges and control joints finished nicely. Wow. You're very good and you've obviously got a great crew. I believe the customer is a criminal that should be in prison.
Looks great, man! I would be THRILLED with a nicely done job like that.
Keep it up, dude! East to tell that you take pride in your work. 👍
That work came out excellent. You couldn't ask for better. Noone understands how much actually goes into this type of job.
Looks great bro❤ Keep up with the good work
Keep us updated on the court process! That guy really messed with the wrong one. Hopefully he knows he's on youtube and he will pay up before the whole town finds out 😭😭😭
Lol if the video ever goes down it’s because he saw and paid me
Yes please keep us updated. So sorry you had to deal with such evil/scandalous people. He will Reap what he sows. 🙏🏻
@OdellCompleteConcrete don't ever delete this video dude, even if he pays
He played you from the start, wouldn't be the first time he's done it and won't be last time. 😢
I doubt that will matter to him. He has probably PO'ed so many people before that no one pays any attention to him.
I’m throwing hands with this guy just for the satisfaction. I know that’s not possible as a business owner but felt good writing that.
Heh he hasn't met the guys i work for
oh no we still will throw hands . there limitations to things I would have had a very candid conversation with him in private at minimum. he would walked away knowing I was going to be making his life a living hell.
@@grapplerguy2007yeah. Imagine at his own home ripping people off. Thinking. What could go wrong. 😮
At least he knows where the guy lives.
When you have that gut feeling cut your losses and. Get out early. You knew when he didn’t have the first guy do it that sumptin weren’t right
Wow! What beautiful work.
Well Done!
I would pay you 120 % of the job price to say thank you for such a nice quality job , brilliant craftsmanship 👍👍👍👍
Beautiful job! I'm now retired but I was a DOT Construction inspector. And from what I see you guy's did a great job from start to finish. This guy shouldn't have had any complaints.
DOT!?!?! You guys can't even fill up a pothole correctly. Just throw some milled asphalt in the hole and call it good for the next year
Anyone who openly documents their work as you do obviously has pride in what they do. I have been following your videos for years and learnt a lot. Great job as always
That kind of crap makes my blood boil! You were right, when you said you didn’t think he would pay you in the end. That is your gut, instinct and intuition warning you. It comes from a fairly long career of dealing with people and evaluating them to see how they will act and what they will do. But in the end, it’s an expensive. lesson. Concrete looked great.
That cleaned up really nice. The fact that he messed around with you so much and you still managed to meet every request and pull the job off well is impressive. Most people would have put their foot down. The only thing I can say is to just have a very thorough contract detailing exactly what you'll be doing, and stipulations on change orders. And a good payment breakdown where you are covered every step of the way. Gotta be firm and assertive when you need to be. And if he starts showing all the red flags like that, then have another quick sit down discussion about the contract and pull the job if you have to. Hope you get paid in the end. Put a lien on the house if needed
I've been a painting contractor for 28 years and thank God I've only encountered one customer like this. The bottom line is this guy is a major scumbag and a crook. I would definitely pursue legal action against him. You're so smart to video your work. I love you and your dad's videos, and I think your work is second to none. Please don't let this guy get away with this. You deserve every cent and whatever else the court rewards you in penalties from this clown. Maybe then he'll learn to have respect for good, honest people. I'm guessing he paid you no more than 40% of your contract, but I'd like to think it's more. Keep posting your work, so many of us love your videos.
It is too late, Mr Odell already breached his fiduciary duty with the private homeowner, by seeking his "pound of flesh" in the social media public sphere, here on RUclips.
@@dutchymonDoubt it.
@dutchymon I believe stating an unfairness is fine in terms of business. Concrete guy should take him to court and present evidence.
I worked in the construction industry for almost 30 years and I agree with you , the was done properly . This is also the reason why I left the industry , because of customers like this guy .I had reached the point where I was debating wether I should bury people
like this guy in the concrete , but I decided not to go to prison and leave the field instead . You do good work and the team you have seem very qualified ; chuck it off as a bad experience and let other contractors know not to deal with this piece of work .
Yea where I'm from anything over 10k wll get u wacked. It sucks when people try to steal from you because they think you won't hurt them.
Man it’s a dangerous feeling when you reach that point. I’m a draftsmen with 23 years experience and when I would have to do job site visits (one in particular where they didn’t follow the plans at all but blamed it on us and wanted chargebacks). They didn’t count on us driving 3.5 hours to the job site the same day. We got there and they the erector company, decided to start cutting rafters. Well if they looked at the plan they would have seen they were just putting the ridged Frames together wrong. Thankfully we didn’t have to pay them anything. But I sure did think about making The foreman on that crew disappear when I kept telling me I was wrong. Then I show him and his crew that they were putting it together wrong…. Complete silence.
Ya, but if you bury them in the concrete, there would be a hump there and the water wouldn't drain properly. We call those 'human speed bumps'
Don’t let this scumbag get you down. You are a contractor that does exceptional work with great worth ethics. I would hire you in an instant if I needed concrete work done. File this experience away for future reference to avoid these type of people. Keep up the great work and love your videos! 🙂🙂👍👍👋👋
Hey, sorry to hear about this situation. As construction workers we all have to deal with these kind of people. Know it all you tube do it yourselvers, that have someone they know that has done this their whole life but is to busy to do their job. The kind of people that say," if you give me a good deal I have more work". The kind of people who title drop. Like " I'm an engineer, architect, doctor, or yes even a construction worker in whatever format. When people title drop I add 20%. No matter what. By them telling you that it is like a " I'm going to be an a-hole card".
I love what I do. Our job is a difficult career, it never gets easier, every time you do the same task it's pretty much the same. The environment we work in isn't a controlled environment say like an office. Everything we touch, we have to make work for us, everything. I don't cast shade on others work. I've often had to tell homeowners " there's plenty of ways to skin a cat, that's their way, this is mine."
Hey man, from what I can see you and your crew did a knock out job. But what do I know. I'm not a concrete guy, I leave that to the pros...you. continue doing your work with pride and integrity no matter what hiccups may arise, and that guy and people like him will be a fading glimpse.
Good luck with everything.
Something like this happened to me 37 yrs ago. Amazing thing is 2 weeks later all the tires on his four cars failed one evening. It was really a head scratcher.
what's the point in that though. unless it got him to pay you what was owed i suppose.
@@cliveramsbotty6077 He owed me $500 he probably had to spend twice that to get new tires
@@cliveramsbotty6077 Sweet revenge
Silly . That wouldn’t be enough to satisfy me .
Way to be the bigger person!
What a POS that homeowner is. Absolutely sue him and put a lien on his property. 😊
I am a retired custom home builder for 30 years. You did a 1st class job! Customers can be unreasonable!
I own a plumbing company though the vast majority of our customers are amazing people there is those other customers that you and your team just can’t make happy. You and your crew do great work and I would recommend to all of our customers!! Keep your head up brother and move forward. Also that’s a cute vape 😝
Hope you take legal action against him .
As a contractor myself, I have to admit that you did an amazing job.
I find that sometimes, when I get a bad vibe from a customer, I will "over" quote, because I know it will be a difficult job. If I am wrong, and the customer turns out to be a good guy, I will give him a discount at the end of the job. 90% percent of time, I guess right.
Great tip. Kudos.
If I EVER had a contractor refund me for predicted over runs I would shout and dance!. Know why? cause it doesn't happen!!!
@@jasonbrindamour903 exactly lol
It’s happened to my family. We don’t have much so having work done was a big deal. We treated the crew like family. We ain’t rich but we’re good people.
@karlwithak. cool story Karl
I have never done concrete work but as a home owner I always watch the jobs closely and over the last few years I have learned many trades. Your company did amazing job and should be paid 110%. When I hire a company I request a written bidden agreement. Most company's here it's 30% upfront depending on job 30 half way threw 30 at end and 10 at inspection, any changes requested by owner should be an added charge and paid immediately. I agree when you get a bad vibe it's best to pull out. I have always tipped my workers and guess what I always get outstanding work. You don't need the home owner standing over you. Your work clearly shows your talent. I wish you locally to me I want a nice sidewalk to my swing in front yard.
Beautiful job! Quality for sure. I do hvac so I feel your pain sometimes. Most of the time it’s the middle class people like us that work hard and struggle, that never give you any grief.
Went through this kind of thing being a landlord and it was one of the worst times in my life, Do file papers on this guy, once he gets the paperwork from a lawyer he may just pay up. Don't let this jerk keep you from doing the good work you do with others. It's great that you record your work.
I’ve been running both boom pumps and line pumps for 6 years and this looks phenomenal, you guys did a great job! Don’t let this homeowner put any doubt in your work, it looks great 👍 keep it up bro
Working for other contractors can be the worst, sorry to see you guys getting the treatment from this jerk.
Job turned out tight.
This guy had zero intention on paying you from the get go. What POS. Nice work as usual guys!
I've been a remodeling contractor for over 26 years, and can say your vibes on this guy are justified because it doesn't take too long to be able to spot these people right away and know how its going to end with them. Clients forget WE DEAL WITH THEM DAILY, and THEY only deal with contractors on occasion! We KNOW the game they play better than they do!
Good on you for being a professional with your team and the client regardless of how you were treated. The work speaks for itself! Beautiful.
In my experience, there are two types of customers. The ones that are happy to let you get on with the job they paid you for, and the ones that, because it's their money, are just on you the entire time.
Lesson learned. It is just how you have to take it. I’ve been burnt 2 times in my career. I always made sure never again. Your work looks good.
Your calm and to together attitude is nothing but short of amazing Your dad should be proud he has trained you not only as a Mason but a real man as well Congrats Mr Odell
Hi Tim, I am sorry this happened to you. We are in a huge renovation (too far to ask you for help:)) and been screwed by contractors and complete amateurs on numerous occasions. You are a true professional. Your work always looks great and this guy has no reason to complain about anything. I would indeed go the legal way. You and your guys deserve better than this.
You did a beautiful job and were very profesional from start to finish. The owner had no grounds not to pay you fully. 40% is disgraceful and this owner should be named and shamed. Disgusting.
As a final note love your work, your amazing contractors. Keep it up.
Dude, your work came out top notch! Had that been my house, I would have zero issues recommending you and promoting your business. Btw, recording your work is the absolute best thing you can do to cover yourself in case of any possible litigation. It shows all the care and effort that went into the final product. If he's really a contractor and doesn't pay you, go file against his license.
Absolutely perfect. Come to New Zealand and do our concrete work.👍.
AS someone who's started doing masonry since I was eleven with my Grandfather and worked for over TEN other Masons . Plus being in my own business for over twenty years . I would say you guys did an impeccable job. Sometimes you run into people like this AH , POS 💩, who more than likely had this all planed out . Life and karma always catches up to these kinda of people .
Planned is what I thought too. He is typical of all of the nonpayers I have had the misfortune to deal with . I wonder how he treated the homebuilders .
30 percent
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these two videos sound like a tall tale..........I had to buy him a brand new wheelbarrow since we used his by accident and I was scared for my life.
That looks amazing job and finish
Excellent work, and very wise conduct with a bad faith customer. You win, he just thinks he does.
(audible) "WOW"
- that is a beautiful broom finish! ART!
pen str8!
- kudos to 'The Dude'!
So sorry that you and your team had to go through all of this! Hope the rest of your customers are decent humans.
WOW!!!! I have been following this channel for a few years, have been inspired by the work I have seen, have received feedback on questions I have asked, all that being said, the customer did not want to pay. Your work is top notch.
Respect to all you Contractors having to deal with people like that. Not sure what happened with this Home Owner. If you took him to court or anything. But I think it's great that you took video of him there. It shows that he knew what was going on.
You've got to name and shame these people bruh, that was beautiful work. People need to know to not use his company if this is how he treats people.
It can be soul destroying when you 100% have pride in the quality of work and the service you provide for people. Reputation is everything in business and you guys obviously go about everything in the best possible way without cutting corners to deliver the best job for a fair price.
The guy knew beforehand that whoever got this contract was going to be given the hardest time possible no matter what.
Unfortunately there are many people like him whom instead of looking at life with a positive and happy attitude they just focus on negativity and making as many people as miserable as possible in the process.
Keep up the awesome work and more importantly keep smiling guys, even though smiles don't pay the bills. This content will bring you much more to be happy about in the future. 👌
AWESOME WORK to you and your hard working crew. We come across people in life who talk in attitude, arrogance and are very rude in their behavior. Showing disrespect to others and insulting them is a weakness of one’s character.
I am not contractor but I know by looking at your work here is outstanding. I had concrete done like this at my home and it is no where close to this master piece. Quite honestly, I wish I had this finish.
My friend I think you and your men did an AMAZING job on the concrete finish. Looks great much credit on the level of skills you and your men have.. be strong and push on.....
We've run a very small painting company for 45 years. Our hearts go out to this young man and his family business for having to deal with this. From experience, we can assure you that this is not the first time he has done this to someone - this is how he operates as a person. You can rest assured that when someone is playing around with the money that he's expecting from any of his clients - he can be a monster.
Stay away from Scott Lucas in Houston, TX. He's been conning contractors for decades.
That by far is one of the best pours I’ve seen. 4500 psi concrete is overkill for this application. I quit contracting because of guys like this! Too many people like this guy out there…I hope that you were able to recover the remainder of your money
You need to hold this guy accountable. He has definitely done this numerous times to other contractors.
You need to call him out so other people can be aware of this guy
@@iaincrawford5472we found the client! Lol
It looked like guy doing the brush finish matched the new finish up with the existing perfectly. Good job!
30 years I've done work like this and when the concrete is going off fast due to the weather or the mix it's panic time. The guys worked their balls off and it looks like a great job to me.When you do everything the customer wants and more but something inside your guts say's "he wants this job doing for nothing" it makes you feel sick inside.I really feel bad for you and the crew.☹
He is just an arrogant thief - you should absolutely take this to court for the full payment, costs and damages. He had absolutely no intention of paying fairly. You and your guys deserve respect as the job is great!!
Job looks great. Based on your description, You got a customer who lacks integrity.
That's a beautiful beautiful work brother... Regarding that person....don't worry God will take care of him. God bless hermano.
I'm guessing 70% payment. You should definitely lien the job! Sounds like he is a crook not a contractor.
I would never let him get away with that.
I am also small business owner. I will never work for guys like that.
Your stupid mate , you need to get everything agreed in writing before you commit yourself and your Men to do any work
If your gut says that you may have a problem with the customer don’t commit to the job , walk away always trust your gut
You boys did a Great job . If this happened to me 1 he’d need to make a very big apology after his initial rant . 2 if he didn’t pay I’d exact my revenge in a very nasty way .
I think it came out absolute beautiful. You and your team do incredible work. Not only do you deserve 100% payment, but more because of the extra last minute changes and additional expenses. Take him to small claims court.
Perfect pour and finish! Those drain covers are awesome.
Job looks absolutely awesome you definitely take pride in your work it's just a matter of time before the con artist will reap what he's sowd.
Great work as alway… you and your crew are grafters and so professional! I’m sorry you were ‘done’ by this guy… be sure to follow the advice of everyone here and go the legal route to get what you are owed! We’re behind you! 🙌🏻❤
It happens sometimes to good ppl like you. Customers don’t realize the hard work and effort you and your crew have put in. I’m glad you rushed out there Asap! You do such QUALITY WORK!!
Getting there THAT early and saying you didn’t work hard enough is mind blowing
I SO had a customer JUST like this! He was a contractor too! I was the main contractor and had a concrete contractor as a sub. The contractor treated me badly, was rude to the concrete team and in t(e end the concrete company walked away, not getting a penny for the8r work and I walked away leaving a huge chunk on the table. His isn’t your fault. Your instincts were right….he had no intention on paying you. He knows that you don’t have an attorney in your back pockets nor the time to deal with a law suit. You did an amazing job!
What a disgusting person that client is. I don’t think I would have been nearly as diplomatic. Reading people during the bidding process is an extremely important skill! The work looked great.
That's smart thanks for the suggestion
Great job on this one! Last minute change like that on the strength of the concrete is a classic way of trying to get at least a 50% discount. Interested if the contractor who poured that other maze of concrete in the back yard had a similar experience. Your patience is exceptional!
There are people who will do whatever they can to not pay, or at least not pay the whole amount. You'll see the most experienced contractors understand that being more professional is more important than being friendly and nice. I've seen where they're friendly and nice while selling the job. Once the contract is signed, then they become more businessmanlike. Some clients take the initial friendliness as weakness. If the clients start trying to change terms, then you should also. Start asking for money upfront. If you're getting the feeling that they're going to try and stiff you -- tell them that you're getting that feeling. Get everything in writing, etc.
As a contractor for many years in CA, I would have given the home owner a preliminary notice (within 20 days) and then filed a Mechanics lien on his property for the remaining amount plus. Most times they will pay before lien is filed to avoid an incumbered title...can't sell your house
Beautiful looking job! You get what you and he agreed to in your contract plus the upgrades (both material and manpower) he asked you to do. You do great work Mr Odell. i've been watching your vids for years.
I've poured and finished for 35 years, and that is nice-looking work
i have worked construction over 35 years , and one thing i have learned is take lots and lots of pictures. from start to end. Job looks great
The vaporizer douche flute was the tell all red flag over everything else IMO 😂
exactly!
LMFAO ikr?
on god
Hey man, some of us are just using it to stop smoking - we're not all massive cun** like this guy
You can see him sucking away on it like a nervous nelly probably standing there trying to figure out how to not pay full price for this project. What a cowardly little scum bag
Concrete is an art and I do believe you guys did an amazing job by watching this video. I also imagine it was even better in person since our cameras don't really give us any justice especially doing an amazing job. Thanks for sharing man!!!!
My sympathies! Was in business myself- most folks are good - but there is a group of people who make a living screwing contractors and repair businesses, etc.