Neighbor's Flooded our job site!
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- Опубликовано: 22 мар 2024
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The old driveway looked perfect.
Yeah that confused me as well.
That was my first thought too, but once I saw the condition of the backyard it made more sense. The front driveway did have some cracking and even some small chips coming off the surface. So I'm pretty sure the homeowner decided he might as well replace the driveway if he's already doing the back. Since he'd have to do it eventually anyways
Money talks.
if you pay attention the owner was already paying for work on the backyard and with concrete the greater the amount the cheaper it tends to be so the property owner clearly said hey lets make it easier for the both of us and get the front driveway done as well
perfect to you and perfect to me must be two different things
“Neighbor’s flooded …”. I was thinking more like angry villagers flooding in with torches and pitchforks like an old Frankenstein movie! I’m glad I was mistaken! 😂😂😂
Don't you mean buckets and fire hoses .
Lake lot o water.
Advice from an Architect:
It is crucial to ensure that your contract includes a third-party intervention clause to address situations like these. Regardless of the presence of such a clause, it is important to remember that your contract is solely between the client and your company, not with the neighbor.
The appropriate course of action would be to initiate a dialogue with the client upon encountering such a situation. This should be done after thoroughly documenting the issue. Subsequently, inform the client that additional costs may be incurred. It is then the client's responsibility to approach the neighbor and, if necessary, pursue legal action in a civil court.
Based on my knowledge of construction and architectural law, this is the legally recommended approach. However, your approach of handling the situation is a very good option as it minimizes the client's involvement, ultimately keeping them happy.
Furthermore, it is worth noting that the mentioned rate of $300 appears to be significantly low. In my experience, smaller projects in my region typically incur daily delay costs of around $500.
According to City building department water encroachment is illegal
That is true but at least in our area damages are between property owners only. Anyways glad it worked out in the end and the project still moved forward.
@@thenextstepp , technically you are right and that they could have sued the homeowner and forced him to sue his neighbor's for the extra materials, time, labor, and court costs they incurred because of the negligence of the pool keeper! Obviously then that neighbor would have to sue the pool guy for his losses due to his negligence! IMO you guys could have easily gotten $5000 in civil court as long as you could provide proof of those jobs you had lined up that you had to push back because you had to wait for the area to dry up enough! If I remember you guys stated that you had to wait roughly a week to place the crete but were still bringing in gravel to try to help dry it faster! I think that that owner was lucky you let him off with a slap on the wrist! I am also curious how they didn't have a runoff on their property to guide the water to the street instead of just flowing directly on to your neighbors yard! The guys yard you were working on didnt have an adequate french drain either, so either they did a bad job or it was clogged or didn't have the proper pitch to drain towards the street but either way it shouldn't have flooded like that with a properly placed french drain!
In my opinion the pool fool did it. He's the one you should have charged for the downtime.
Yeah I think he will be fined by the neighbors
@@OdellCompleteConcrete He should be held liable. He should be fined , and fired for negligence , and incompetence. Small claims court is always an option too. Good luck !
I'd ask for the pool company's name and send them the bill for all the missed hours, along with a small blurb from the video concerning the pool fools' actions.
dude you ever work on a construction site one second in your whole life? .... its all about other contractors causing delays.. electrician doesn't show so the drywall guy is losing his mind.. which pushes off the painter.. which pushes off the trim carpenter.. which pushes off the carpet guy... are you going to sue on behalf of all those contractors for a lost day? if you did you'd be put out of business by word of mouth and no one would ever work with you again... if it was rain who you gonna sue God? .. grow up .. welcome to the real world
@@zippythechicken "Grow up." Nah. All the nonsense you said doesn't make it acceptable. In the "real world" people that cause problems get held liable.
That's a bunch of nice guys you got working for you, I'd be happy working alongside those guys, good attitudes!
I miss dads buttery relaxing voice over on these videos. So relaxing. 😎
Next time
that was pretty much the reason i kept watching this channel when i started lol
I'm getting some stuff together soon
I disagree, I like the Son a lot. He's figuring things out by doing it right, and gives tons of details on the job which is nice. (not that I don't like the Father or something lol)
Loved seeing the whats for lunch segment. Love your interactions with your crew
Glad you enjoyed it!
This segment caused me to find what I had to eat in the fridge.
@@OdellCompleteConcrete Where did he get that cool lunch thermos thing with the three dishes? Awesome!
The pool guy should be paying.
Pool guy is definitely reading the comments.
Homeowner looked like he was still celebrating the new years 🎉😮
Probably in recovery
You guys have a really good attitude, Just burning time and profits. 👍
Stay positive no matter what 😂
I'm surprised you only charged him that much 😮
I bet he's got a new pool guy 🤣
Yeah maybe should have been more
$300 is not even worth the headache. I would have gone after the pool guy's insurance instead.
agree like what? 300 I wouldn't even take that serious.
Same. If this really threw off your schedule I could maaaaaybe see pursuing some sort of action. For. $300 though, not worth the headache or the bad blood.
$300 per man on the job, per day lost.
I would have charged around 1800 to 2300
Likely paid by the job. If paid by hour a wise supervisor would move them to another job. ALWAYS have a fallback plan.@@johnnyd2375
Dang! What a mess! Looking forward to finish video!❤❤❤
Next video will be a good one ☝️
They need to fire that pool guy.
6:45 Brother you need to invest in jackhammers or like we now use the jackhammers for the skid steer. Saves all of our backs lol
Lunch time look so good!!! Everyone bringing there own food. Enrique killing it with the beef feet soup
Greetings from Southern California
The Masonry Company
Authentic Mexican food
@@OdellCompleteConcrete yes Cerritos
I really liked the camera going across the driveway in a shadow that was a cool effect. It gave you a better sense of the passage of time. I really like the video all the way around. Most of these videos are too dry. When he was showing his food and said Mexican wife. He reminded me when I was a really young carpenter, not married and a lot of time I wouldn't even have lunch. I worked with older Mexican guys, and their wives would feel sorry for me and make me food. Some of the best food i've ever had. Thanks for the memories. Great video.
At 18:58 the neighbor says 'I hope the pool guy doesn't do that again while they're working". So I think the neighbor is as much to blame as the pool guy. All they had to do was check that the water had been turned off as they knew this was an issue.
Exactly
Or just tell the pool guy not to refill it, and do it themselves while they're home and can watch it (Set a timer to look every hour.)
They’re renters what do you expect
Renters...
@@snaplashthey said themselves "hes does this all the time, he leaves and doesnt say anything expecting someone to see it"
1000 bucks bro! Minimum
No
You should put a claim in to pool company, they should have liability insurance to cover the loss of income as well as additional work to clean up the site.
In Wales we work in wet conditions like that all the time 😊.Nice job guys 🏴 🇺🇸
THATS A PROFESSIONAL BIG RIG DRIVER
While the concrete was out I would have installed some drain basins for sure!
There are snakes called Blind snakes. Don’t get any bigger than a large worm. Very rare to be seen.
That's cool. I have seen one before, thought i was tripping.
I have even had one in my yard here in Tampa Bay!
Thanks for identifying it.
Ok I thought it was a Earthworm
moving some debri😃s around 1 day with my bro i was like hey look at the worm and my brother said dude thats a snake,,
We have tiny snakes down here in Florida that look like worms. There's ones that have a red ring around their necks & ones that have like a round blunt ends on both sides.
Great setup. I would of definitely ran a thick landscape fabric in those 5” gaps to prevent weeds
We do that in 2nd part
Great work! Great attitude!
Also, in my opinion… On the driveway wouldn’t it be easier to get gravel in and compacted before doing all that set up?
You guys do a great job and billing them only $300 is being nice. I figured the neighbors were renters as why they left when it first happened. They wouldn’t be laughing if he took him to court for a total cost of the project being delayed.
Good time to replace main water line from meter to house before concrete is in
Not the homeowners fault,(neither one) nor the renters fault, strictly the pool guys fault. But, seeing how it happens often, they should be using a valve that shuts off the water when the pool is full.
Great job brothers .👍🏻🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Hey Mr odell i have a question, i seen another video from 4 years ago you did a paint match on a concrete patio in the back yard you used berh deckover paint it looked good when you finished, i wanted to ask how long in your experience does that usually last? And is there any similar product that you recommend for a driveway ? I want to get my driveway and back yard done the same way you painted that back yard but not sure on product thanks!
always informative.
I appreciate that!
a concrete guy with bags.... a truly rare site!
I loved the lunch review. LOL
that concrete looks good.
It's awesome your full crew includes Frank Zappa!
That’s our main man Shane hahah
Great job crew 💕👏👍 Good to see the brothers working together on this one. Hope you're still going after that pool contractor's money that tried stiffing you 🙏
Yes we are
Remember to clear out the pump sprayer as the hypo will destroy the rubber gasket in the pump.
I would have thought that the neighbors or the 'pool guys' insurance would have coughed up a few thousand dollars for the damage.
How to Eat Fried Worms. I loved that book as a kid! Then there was also Can of Worms
When i did pools I use to roll with a timer to shut it off. But if customer was home I would let them check to make sure it shut-off
Watch out for those silica particles boys. Stay safe.
In sweden you as a homeowner are responsible for any water leaving your property. It doesn't even matter if it's rainwater or tap/poolwater, you need to have drains that can handle every drop of rain that your property collects, and obviously take care of any water that you spill yourself as well.
What made that fireplace you moved weigh so much, was the rock on top. Most of those rocks like that can be literal 'lava rocks', so their small, but super-dense, making them weigh a ton. A 50lb bag of that is like the size of a 20lb bag of cat-food.
Marl the parts for the videos! Love to see you interacting with the crew.
More to come!
That’s funny, when I lived there about 10 years ago that same thing use to always happen with the pool overfilling. Our backyard got flooded several times
Is there a weight limit for the roll offs? Can't wait for part 2!
Take care of those backs, guys.If you have the equipment to move things, USE IT. That owner isn't going to pay or thank you years from now for any of the back problems that result from moving a stupid, heavy plastic bowl. You only have one back.
My backs already destroyed :/
do you have a sub pump? probably would have dried quicker idk just curious
Dude what a trip, that’s my old house! Laguna Niguel right?
Haha we skated that pool and put a stand up jet ski in back in the day
Wow what are the odds!
How strange to tear out a perfectly fine driveway.
That's what I kept thinking, it looked so solid and uncracked, and so expensive to replace.
Yes but it was very ugly. Check our instagram if u want to see finished product before part 2
You should have calculated every ones pay for the days you had to wait and for the material you had to put in to help dry out, then I am sure you had to bring up the forms for proper depth of concrete plus 10 percent for screwing up your schedule.
“Not the first time the pool guy has done this….”
Wow.
How to eat fried worms
Loved that book
Thanks!
owning my own pool company i never fill a persons pool, that is on them. To much liability and to many things can go wrong you leave your car breaks down etc. not worth it and this guy just learned that. leave it up to the customer !!!!
Invest in a little utility pump. We use them on jobs allll the time.
Good idea
Make sure you get a Tsurumi pump. They're the only ones that last worth a s***.
500 for the extra work shoveling water and getting delayed is a good price for the set back.
Maybe the dumpster driver is just REALLY GOOD
The guy getting his cement replaced ... may have his house foundation jeopardize as well with that water 😮
What does the fiber mesh (mentioned towards the begining) due to the concrete when you try to take it out? Does it make the concrete more monolithic and not crack so it doesnt break up?
Think they may have been talking about wire mesh, it's usually more difficult to demo than just rebar
Im no expert but wire mesh concrete stays in one big mangled piece even if you break the concrete, you have to manually cut it into small pieces I believe
Do you recycle the concrete slabs that was removed?
I guess they call the bill you sent the neighbor “liquidated damages”! Lol!
Do you add sealer to the concrete after it is cured?
I'll bet that pool contractor that stiffed you built the neighbors pool, designing the overflow to be next doors problem sounds on point for him.
Put down concrete a little ahead of HOA approval so when I had to cut it a big chunk out a fine silt drained to nearest storm drain. To my surprise, in the morning the silt that crossed a 4 way stop looked like I had dumped 20 gallons of white paint and got spread every way from the passing cars! HOA said they were worried the lye in the concrete would erode the seal on the roads (Very possible HOA BS??) and put me to clean up. We attached to neighbor garden hoses and even grabbed a shop vacuum to suck up the silk. My luck it ended up raining in Indio CA and they sent the street sweeper which saved me. Lesson is to have someone on the end of the driveway with a shop vacuum to clean as you go! And don't buy in an HOA.
$300 was a gift. If I had been the neighbor next door, I would have paid you on the spot no questions ask.
I think the renter left the hose on and blamed it on the pool guy
I lived in South Georgia and this is what the little "Snake" was. Certainly! In Florida, there is a snake known as the Brahminy Blindsnake (Indotyphlops braminus). Here are some key details about this interesting snake:
Appearance: Most adult Brahminy Blindsnakes are about 4.4-6.5 inches (11.2-16.5 cm) in total length. They are small, thin, and come in shiny silver gray, charcoal gray, or purple colors. Their heads and tails appear blunt and can be challenging to distinguish from each other. Juveniles have similar coloration to adults1.
Origin: Brahminy Blindsnakes are non-native to Florida. They hail from southern Asia and were first reported in Miami, Florida, in the 1970s. Since then, they have been found from Key West north throughout much of the peninsula, with isolated records from the Panhandle1.
Risk to People and Pets: These snakes are non-venomous and pose no danger to humans or pets. However, they are frequently mistaken for earthworms due to their shiny appearance. Unlike earthworms, Brahminy Blindsnakes are not segmented, and if you look closely at their heads, you’ll notice them sticking out their tiny tongues while being held
Interesting
TY
Wow 😮
You should change the next door owner at $3k per day for the delay .
You should charge the pool guy. $300 is cheap , if you get anything without going to court it will be amazing. Small claims ct against pool company your best bet is
theres a 80% chance that guys unlicensed and uninsured waste of time for 300 dollars
Great video. I think I would have put in a claim for the wages you had to pay your crew while you waited for the water to drain. Thanks for sharing.
Another factor regarding charging the home owner next door is that it did in fact rain, so if you were to go to court, it might be tough even with the video evidence proving that the flooding was the sole cause for delay.
How was the pool even low to begin with if you got enough rain to flood you out beforehand? You would think the rain would have just topped it off.
Absolutely more
Good job
With your luck with pool guys, you may have to go proactive around your future projects warning them
Haha I think so 😂😂
If someone were to charge me just over a delayed work that wasn't my fault we'd be going to court
It would be between you and your neighbor, not you and the contractor the contractor must be compensated for his time. You would lose if you took the contractor to court. You would also be responsible for his court cost as well. The security of the job site falls on the homeowner. Somehow contractors have become expected to just eat losses with no thought as to their payroll or time, etc..
@@kennyjwislon1 If they signed a contract for a specific amount that case would go out the window and any competent judge would side with the customer.
I certainly hope you have design drawings and signatures from the homeowner!
I hope so too!
That’s why I like acreage no neighbors close I’ve had to many crazy ones hahah
He knows what’s he’s doing in truck
I’m kinda surprised you guys don’t have any transfer pumps, Milwaukee makes a few cordless pumps that work relatively well, especially for situations like this
Mexicans lunch looks amazing 👍👍
At the start that driveway doesn’t look bad. Guess they wanted all to tie together.
You should’ve charged the homeowner next-door for your labor for all those men per hour for eight hour day and include yourself for lost time and wages. Then it would be the homeowners responsibility to go after the irresponsible pool guy who initially caused the problem.
Maybe the pool guy expects the pool to drain. Heavy sediments sink to bottom so draining or water change out is done. Pool stores have sediment/particulate test
Water hose was left on
if the neighbor said it happens constantly, i dont know why you didn't recommend a French drain system on the side of the house so if it happens again once the concrete is down it wont soak underneath the foundation or even make the concrete move over time from the base getting soaked
We put drains in
As a pool owner (renter or not) I’ve never not checked the pool out after a service and I’ would not continue to use their pool services. Particularly, if he has a history of leaving a hose running in my pool. I’m sure the tenants pay for utilities, so it blows my mind they wouldn’t check after he was done.
Some people aren't home and are at work
I saw a yellow car parked in their driveway for the duration of the video, so I presumed that they were home. Particularly, when the crew went into the backyard and encountered the tenants. I think I’m this case it’s safe to assume they were home.
There's a lots of those little snakes here that live in the dirt. They are called Blind snakes. They look like an earthworm
Maybe it was a snake 🐍
cant wait to see Finnish job from u/k
here is what you can try to get the next door home owner to agree with.
You have to bill him for the delay, but that home owner can then bill the pool guy for the damage he cost the next door home owner.
So in the end you can charge the next door home owner more, because the bill will only be payed forward by the next door home owner.
$300? The nextdoor homeowner should be happy as hell with that price! Surprised you didn't have him pay all the employee's pay for that day, rental costs, and a fee for causing a delay on future jobs...
as a pool guy this is why i leave a note telling them to add water themselves. pools dont lose water on their own unless its leaking (yes evaporation too but if this is the 3rd incident then clearly this is not the case) and thats the homeowners responsibility i wont waste time filling their pool for them they can handle it themselves also running sprinkers for 14 hours? does nobody look outside their windows and wonder?
I would bill $1,000 to $1,500 (or a percentage of the total job) to the owner that hired you (since you have the contract with him). Tell him to request reimbursement from the owner of the house next door. If the owner next door won't reimburse, then you will back up the owner that hired you 100% in small claims court (in person or through documentation). Just my personal opinion. I am not a lawyer.
Me too
You are out of your mind if you think me as the homeowner am paying you 1000 to 1500 for something that a neighbor does. You will be out of business quick with that business practice. Lol I had a basketball court poured at my house, the contractor was delayed longer than that due to heavy rain, you think he charged me rain delays? Lol I would have told him to get F'd if he tried
@@franquil85conn After i wrote that I thought i should have included....it depends on what's in the contract the owner signs. I'm not sure what the industry standard is for those types of delays, but the wording in a contract is important. Bottom line is that situation was ridiculous and shouldn't of happened.
@@CoorsLight23 I totally agree that it is ridiculous and shouldn't have happened, but as a business owner, you'll run into many ridiculous things that should not have happened. Imagine if that concrete had mesh throughout, that would have added time on their job, should he have sued in that situation? What if there was no rebar or very little, kinda like what happened and he demo'd the site several hours quicker than anticipated in the bid, do you think the contractor would give a portion of the bid back? If the delay hurt his schedule and he lost money, he should go after the pool company, not the renter or the original client even if there is some fine print that he could hold the original client liable. It takes years to build a company's name, and one misstep to smear it
@@franquil85conn ...this incident may not be black and white as we may think (and it's not up to the concrete company to try and figure it out. They've already lost enough time and money). Is there some animosity going on between neighbors? The renter already admitted the overflow problem has happened before...and you know the renter had to hear and see all the construction work going on that day. It's almost appears the incident was intentional. In the end it's about what the contract fine print says...and how much monetary loss the concrete company is willing to eat.
$300? Bill for all of your loss. Include court costs if needed. Probably more like $5k in this case.
Honestly you should always have in mind that something can go wrong and will slow you down you should alway tell your customers that if everything goes good it will be done in a few days if not it will take longer
True
If they don't pay, easy case for small claims court where you can hit them with the full day's pay of your employees and any equipment rental fees.
$300 is not enough. BUT here in Australia the $300 could be accepted on 1 condition 2 to 3 cartons of beer would be thrown in non-negotiable in fact the cartons would be a binding contract but for every carton after the 3rd carton you could deduct $50 from the $300. Fun facts
I did pool servicing for years. If you turned a hose on to top up a pool you would always hang your car keys on the tap. Couldn’t leave the job without your car keys. Saved me on more than one occasion. Plus how does the overflow not go down a drain? How is it legal for this just to drain into the neighbours yard? The pool guy messed up but the owner of the house is also responsible for that not going down a drain. I had to have 2.5 mill liability insurance to be able to work also. If you mess up the indoor pool on the top floor of a 3 story mansion you can cause a lot of damage.
The pool guy should have paid for it
You should have billed the pool guy your labor cost for the 2 day’s downtime. How did you come up with $300 ?