Bob Chapek Fired - Disney In Meltdown
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- Опубликовано: 20 ноя 2022
- Bob Chapek's sudden ousting as Disney CEO and his replacement by a returning Bob Iger has a lot of people wondering what happens to Disney next. Here's a hint - nothing good.
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Disney was finished the moment they decided to prioritise *The Message* over proper storytelling
So true. Money and politics over good storytelling and good writing.
@@griffyye3021 No it doesn't. screw off adbot
ALL hollywood is today is PR for democrats
Disney is just propaganda for the DNC
The movie industry, and basically EVERY industry now, is just woke propaganda
Growing up, I’d *never* have expected that I would cheer for Disney’s fall.
Me neither, even up to 2016 with Zootopia I was still rooting for them. I love that film like few ever before, and I still do. Sadly, now I want Disney to crash and burn, never to rise again, so they can't keep shitting on the awesome stuff that came before and pushing their garbage political messages.
Glad to have experienced Disneyland in the 70s as a kid. It will never be the same. Walt is spinning in his grave over what has happened to his park.
And Disney’s revival
I did, and I love seeing its fans freak out.
The only thing that would top that would be seeing Mickey Mouse undergoing a sex "affirmation" makeover to live as Minnie's girl partner, Maxi Mouse.
Me neither. I had a bad feeling some years ago. I initially didn't know what, it was just lack of satisfaction after viewing their movies.
I used to work at Disney, I can honestly say the amount of activists outnumbers any other kind of people there now.
If I were working in human relations, I would see any mention of Disney on a résumé as a red flag at this point unless they were a Gay man or Lesbian sacrificed on the altar of the tr-ns cult.
They outnumber the staff anywhere, nowadays...😕
Sure buddy. And my dad is Captain Hook
@@beckg777 keep doubting, just as youve always done in your life
I got offer for 3d modelling job disneys mobile game but I sensed something feels off and refused... no way gonna support them and create 3d for woke shit
Man, you guys remember when we could go to a movie, be entertained for a couple hours, maybe hit with something profound and beautiful from time to time, and leave? Those were the days
The fuck is stopping you now? Are you afraid or something?
Blame captilism baby
Remember when movies were about escapism and entertainment? THOSE were the days.
I miss those times. Its just about culture wars caused by billionaires to keep people divided. They do that to keep stealing power that belongs to the people, and to steal money ofc.
There are a few good nuggets. Not much but just enough to get me to a theater every now and then.
Disney is the EA of movies. They'll buy companies with original ideas and destroy them.
They are on team Woke/blue. They will tear down everything just to try to gain it more power
they might as well buy EA too...in fact I'm surprised they haven't done so yet!!
But EA still makes lots of money, disney less and less
@@chheinrich8486 Yep. Your average gamer is a lot dumber than your average consumer, sadly.
To be fair those companies sold their ip knowing what would happen to it. Money is obviously more important to Lucas film, etc
2019 was Disney's peak year when it comes to Cinema tickets sale, but also the year that it looked like Disney was about to buy up all of Hollywood.
But their constant push for the message caused them to fall off their throne.
I was finally able to convince my sister with 3 kids to stop supporting Disney in any way, I did my part.
Nice work
My Wholesome Congratulations
I have done the same for my little bro, I've started showing him the older, better movies like finding Nemo or the incredibles, and of course i showed him saving private Ryan too
It’s good to see the consequences of their actions.
"Best we can do is a trans Aladdin"
Same here.
@@strategery101 They make another Pinocchio remake where him and Geppetto are trans, gay lovers. And you will be cancelled if you dont openly love it
The consequences have just started. Half the people working in film and television today will be unemployed within six months. Its over. The financial laws of gravity are back in place.
@@Jim-Tuner i hope
Disney is the prime example of, “You either die as a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”
It's a real shame honestly, I feel conflicted. On one hand, I really like a lot of their movies like Lilo and Stitch, Aladdin and Micky Mouse but on the other hand, I can't overlook their misdeeds and shortcomings. Maybe someday an awesome and mentally competent individual will take over Disney and somehow fix things.
Yeah I don't think they were ever really nice but at least they delivered quality content!
Even in their prime Disney had their skeletons
When Disney bought Pixar, I almost wept. I was so mad. I loved Pixar so much. They just have better storylines focusing on friendship, character, consequences of poor decisions and reconciliation rather than magic, and being born with a special gift one did not earn. I won't understand why Pixar sold to their company.
Pixar is just one of those companies that, even in their prime, would always resonate with me because they made those childish concepts growing up like growing up with toys(Toy Story), monsters in the bed(Monsters Inc.), or being with a loving, caring family(Finding Nemo) just feels real, even if they are characters concepts that are non-human.
Pixar rocked because these humane stories center around anything that wasn't human characters for the most part.
When Disney was a hero? Even Walt was massive jerk.
Disney Employees: *Lambasts Chapek for not allying himself with them when the Parental Rights Act was signed and doing more against it*
Also Disney Employees: *Get arrested for being involved in child sex trafficking crimes*
Stop calling the bill that. Call it what it is rightfully called: the parental rights act.
@@Attmay what did he call it before?
@Prasanth Thomas Yeah that came from the foam mouthing activists that don't have kids in the first place and shouldn't have any saying whatsoever in what the parents decide for their kids. We had something similar here years ago and we, who had child in school,were glad that it passed so fast to any activist to be aware of it.
I've seen that sheriff guy giving press conferance a few months ago because they caught kiddy didlers and he said "X is a Disney employee.. there's always à Disney employee" he commented in an exasperated tone.
Hollywood is run by pedos. Oy vey!
My son is 22 and loved those old movies. I asked him at thanksgiving if he wanted to go see a movie “I don’t like movies anymore, neither do my friends” why not? I asked… “because they’re awful”. Disney is doomed when young people would rather do most anything else but go see a movie where they piss all over men and white people. I’m proud of my wise son.. 🤠
I'm 21 and I used to love Disney movies but the new ones are so awful that I prefer watching low budget john wayne westerns
And I mean movies in general,I think a decent one is made maybe once or twice year with some exceptions
Same here, looks like some young people do in fact have a functioning brain.
As a young person, Disney movies are repulsive, idiotic, pandering, and vapid. They're cookie cutter, have no substance, worth, or themes. I saw Puss and Boots 2 with my younger brother, and it had some of the most complex humanistic themes and messages of any animated movie I've ever watched. It's very compelling, and it shows where the artistic talent is going in the industry. (Hint: Not on Disney+)
Thank you for coming on the internet to tell us
The one thing Disney is not afraid of: their customers. And that’s exactly the most important group to cater to.
Exactly.At least Zaslav understands that.
I agree: alienating the customers literally broke the generation chain of Disney fandom.
They aren't afraid of customers because in their "moral superiority" they disregard the marketplace. That's what commies do.
There’s a difference between catering to the customers and pandering to them
yah but big daddy blackrock told them what to do
"If you can't come up with good ideas of your own, just buy someone else's"
*Modern Disney summed up in a sentence.*
It's always been that way. Snow White, Sleeping Beauty, Cinderella, Robin Hood, Beauty and The Beast, Aladdin, The Little Mermaid, Winnie the Pooh, Peter Pan....all someone else's stories.
And the corollary:
"Once you've bought someone else's, change it so it's just like all of your previous failures, release it, watch it nosedive despite the millions of dollars you paid the "right people" to promote it, then tell the people you depend on for success that it's their fault and they suck."
...And when purchased, re-boot in CG and then launch a bunch of spin-offs to really squeeze the hell out of that cash cow until it can't be queezed no more. The end.
Historical Disney as well. They've ripped off nearly everything that they get the credit for. Lion King is a shameless rip off of Kimba, Snow White and the others were all stories elsewhere before Disney scooped up the American rights to the films and started making animations.
That is capitalism in a nutshell.
Not that I agree with it, it aucks
The one thing Disney doesn't seem to fear is the one thing they should: the customers.
They (Disney, MSM, and some bastions of Disney-Fandom) made Bob C. out to be the villain. Bob C. didn't help himself with his public appearances, that was just fuel to his pyre. Stock prices dipped (again) and some bts drama led to the replacement of Bob C. with Bob I. Bob I. has a better corporate image (very manicured) and likes the park's division. Some will rose-color anything that Bob I. does, and he becomes the hero of his own story. The Rise, Fall, and Rise again of Disney, written by Bob I. Others are properly cynical, if things get better good job Bob I., if things stay the same (or get worse), then the next CEO (Disney has 2 years) can try to fix things (again).
Blame Larry Fink.As long as woke companies keep getting ESG bucks they will not listen to customers.
From the point of view of the political left to tolerate something is to enable it, so backing off the message is not something they could do in a good conscience.
As long as “hate watching” is a thing, WTF has Disney truly have to worry about?
This in itself is becoming an acceptable form of media consumption
And it’s getting REAL old
I don't think they care. There will always be a mass of people looking for a cheap background noise during dinner, enough to pay their bills.
All my friends with kids won’t let them watch a Disney movie unless they have watched it first, so they can check for messaging, Disney used to be the safe beat nothing controversial, universal moral values that extended to every culture and religion, to put it simply Disney was the 1 hour break the parent got from answering the “hard questions”, “here watch this, mummy is going to have a drink in the next room”, now a kid watches a Disney movie and you have to send them to a psychologist just to unpack what they just watched
Exactly what era of Disney are you talking about being a safe bet because as a child, I was pretty traumatized by the donkey transformation scene in Pinocchio, or when Bambi's mom was abruptly shot; and I know I'm not alone on this!
If anything, Disney has gone soft as hell; they don't even have real villains anymore. Unless you count puberty as some metaphorical villain, then I guess, sure, whatever, it's fine, because I'm not a child and kids seem to be enjoying it, so let them have it!
What is this "message" people are so scared about? Please tell me it doesn't have something to do with the LGBT community, because I got news for you, Disney been queer coded since the Little Mermaid! Ursula was literally based off the drag queen Divine and all those Oscar winning songs from the 90's? You think straight people wrote & composed those? 😆
People are just mad this shit isn't thinly veiled anymore.
How do you know whether or not they taught those “hard questions” well? Maybe they got it right most of the time? The *vast majority* of the time it isn’t the subject matter, it’s actually the *execution*.
I personally fell Coco handled the themes of death very well.
@@KittyGoldPaint i believe what the above comment is trying to say is that Disney is currently trying to push a certain ideology onto children. This view is one that most parents don’t like or most parents don’t like a company pushing a belief on their offspring.
A deer getting shot and dying in a movie? People and animals die everyday, that’s nothing new. The classic Disney movies never tried to push a political ideology onto its child viewers. The current Disney does.
The comment about was trying to say that.
@@KittyGoldPaint "The Message" is the same message the same people pushed during the Weimar, Germany era: Men are weak and terrible, women are extremely strong and intelligent, family means nothing, indulge in everything, and every race is more noble and important except the white race. Oh but not the ones that LOOK white. Those individuals are God's chosen people and tend to be the ones pulling the strings of "THE MESSAGE" but we can't say that out loud because, well, holding those people accountable for their actions is like arresting a black person for shooting five people (but won't ever be mentioned as a mass shooter).
The LGBTQ+ community is an easy target because right now that is being pushed the hardest because it's the easiest way to, once again, destroy family units. It's easy to control a population when, in less than two generations, you destroy the idea of family so that people are dependent on media and government to raise children as well. Design an entire message around the idea of "children can decide their gender" or "children can be gay" and push enough loud minority (as in number) people in power and you can have a controlled and easily dictated population in a very short time.
Case in point: Allegedly 81 million people voted for a child sniffer that can't remember where he is all because they were TOLD TO.
I don't think Walt Disney would be very Happy.
There's an old saying that everyone knows "Consequences have actions" and seeing Disney get theirs...does put a smile on my face.
@@bradthompson5383 "umm you made a minor spelling error" 🤓
@@bradthompson5383 No. Go away.
Disney was once the sign of quality. How times have changed.
They were our heroes. Now, they are our enemy. They have become a slithery serpent.
It's a shame that, despite being hot garbage, they still have profitable -- often highly profitable -- movies. The public doesn't want quality - they just want a backdrop against which to munch popcorn.
I am confused. He got booed in d23 expo. I watched a video about he being bad for disney. Many people hate him. But drinker is saying otherwise. Give me answer
This says a lot about what Disney has become: I was looking up when Pixar was bought, and I started typing in "When did Disney", and Google helpfully gave me a whole list of options on when did Disney buy such and such. I hadn't even typed in "buy" yet! Once a creative studio, now a megacorp.
Well, it's arguable, but they did have some good periods in the previous century.
Disney used to be my childhood and adulthood, and now it has become its own worst enemy.
They are tearing down your childhood on purpose. They want you to bow to the Message
@@strategery101 not ever gunna happen for me and a lot more. Fuck “the message”
Walt Disney will always be one of my heroes, one of my top heroes. The corporation with his name in the 21st century, pure enmity, and they started it.
It was the by-word for quality entertainment. Now ... er ...
@@TheRadioAteMyTV Same here. I love Old Disney. Current Disney is meh.
They’re not afraid of their shareholders, they’re afraid of the giant crony investment firms that make all the decisions on behalf of their shareholders.
I have a weird feeling that this was all Bob Iger's plan. He knew that terrible movies were going to come out and he basically bailed in the right so that movie and TV shows would come out during Bob Chapek's run. TV shows and especially movies take years to make meaning it was greenlit under Iger's run and with these projects almost done Chapek had no choice but allow them to be released to make some of the money back which made it look like it he was the one responsible for these movies and TV shows being made. Chapek was creating a functioning system for Disney and now that he's gone I think Iger is going to use it and claim that it was his, taking all the credit. Movies like Elemental seems like a movie that was made under Chapek's rain. I expect to see some good content coming out from Disney because of Chapek's system. But once they run out and they will have to make new ideas I wonder if Bob Iger will do this all over again.
I think you're overestimating corporate competence. It's far more likely that iger got lucky a couple times, made a bunch of stupid decisions, then fucked off before shit hit the fan instead of some grand master plan.
Your not wrong it turns out bob was the fall guy and was sabotaging bob chapek all along
This Disney boardroom drama is far more entertaining than anything the studio has produced in years.
They will be responsible when the company goes belly up. But unlike Enron, people WILL blame them for as Doomcock and Palpatine said, "lack of vison".
As someone who hasn’t paid to watch anything disney since 2019’s end game, this is very true.
Endgame was such a scam that to this day people still dont see is shit
Technically the boardroom drama counts as something the studio has produced, lol. They should just release bts footage of the company's backstage drama as a reality show.
The shocking plot twist in this drama is the news is reporting, "Disney fires woke Bob Chapeck!" They've got it all wrong. Chapeck was flailing trying to deal with the woke lunatics and mountain of debt Iger brought into the company.
There is an expression: "Stupid should hurt." There comes a point where you just stop hoping people make the right decisions and just hope that their committment to bad decisions rebounds to incapacitate them.
Ha!
Nicely put.
I agree, honestly.
Brilliant!
Incapacitate, meh. I want fatalities. Fatalities with ludicrous gibs and parts blown several meters away.
“We can ignore reality, but we cannot ignore the consequences of ignoring reality.”
― Ayn Rand
The irony in your statement is breathtaking.
@@nedames3328 I dont get it can you explain
@@johnniefinney3266 Ditto
Problem is that people can’t send to agree on what the hell reality really is.
@@williammorahan4907 thanks I geuss
@@johnniefinney3266 I was agreeing with you.
And making my own quote to go with the Ayn Rand one.
Happy Thanksgiving 🍁🦃🍽
How I wish we could go back to the good old days, when Disney produced wholesome content while keeping their morally questionable activity secret, like all companies. Now they're just unashamedly evil with no pretense of having a moral conscience.
That's the whole point from the beginning. It was program kids believed in fantasy which is why here now. They did the agenda right
It never ceases to amaze me that these companies start to panic when they ignore the obvious. You treat your employees wrong, they won’t work as hard and will possibly sue. When your art goes from telling a story to making the underlying message obvious, the people get annoyed and lose interest.
yeah man idk why they focus too much on this message thing and they know it's destroying their quality but they still doing it shows they don't care about viewers and people who paid to watch this garbage and hope maybe next product will come good but nope never
And theyve been letting Disneyland slip into defunction.
I don't think there is any real panic. For most of the employees, Disney is an entry on their resumes. If the money spigot stopped, then they'd just float their resumes somewhere else. That includes the executives. They want to look good with their peers and on social media. They have to go through the motions of pretending to care about the financials, but they already have plenty of money, enough that their biggest fear isn't not making rent, it's being cancelled. The same goes for the board and the investors.
The "investors" are usually fund managers. They don't own all that much Disney themselves. They are appointed by an investment bank or pension fund to act on behalf of the thousands/millions of ordinary people who actually have skin in the game... but no voice. The fund managers go through the motions, too, but their checks mostly clear regardless of how the company is doing. Everybody has to talk like they care about profits, but mostly that's way down on their list of priorities because they've got very little skin in the game. Bad quarter? OK, throw a senior exec or two into the volcano so we can show shareholders that we care. Hire a new guy, and it's back to business as usual. Even the guy who got forced out gets a golden parachute.
So they have to ACT panicked, but do they feel any panic? Probably not.
I'm just in awe how they make billions and yet have the employees that dress up in their theme parks making cents an our while living in a car
I don't think they treated their employees wrong, though. The employees bought into the woke mania, and dragged the company into it, also, and it alienated the foundation of Disney: people who paid for their products, who rejected the woke hysteria.
To me, it seems they overestimated brand loyalty from people who traditionally carried Disney for generations, and Disney no doubt thought they didn't have to worry about that segment of their income, by far the biggest segment, by appeasing the woke mafia, but they were wrong, and it is glorious to see them squirm at the retribution of the "boomers" and their wallets. The chain is broken; older people actively don't want to take their grandkids to Disneyland anymore, and with good reason: Disney showed those fat wallet people that Disney doesn't care about their values.
“We decided that Cancer would be a more fitting death than AIDS.”
-Disney
🤣
😂
Between a rock and a hard place...lol.
Drinker i need answer. I am confused. He got booed in d23 expo. I watched a video about he being bad for disney. I thought to myself him going away was good.
*EVERYONE HAS AIDS.*
A perfect case of what happens when you forget your paying customers.
Their paying customers eat this shit up and kiss Disney's shoes.
And note Chapeck was fire under the no fault clause of his contract. So the board had no grounds to terminate him they just did. I think that there is some serious back room shenanigans going on and I think it is connected to either embezzlement or Chapeck stumbled onto a closet of skeletons. Either way I think he started asking the right questions and that meant he had to be gotten rid of.
Nah, he was fudging budgets around Disney+. They used the no grounds clause to keep this quiet and not have to go public with this knowledge. NDA signed. And Bob Iger's first move was to fire Kareem Daniel, the head executive over the department that includes Disney+. Kareem was probably a part of the shenanigans.
For all of Rey's flaws as a character, her expression in that green milk scene perfectly reflected the incredulity and disgust we felt for what Disney was doing.
Disney is buying the rights to "legends of the galactic heroes" according to reddit.
@@roadbone1941 NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO oh god please no. Somebody stop the mouse!
@@roadbone1941 Oh hell nah
One more point to Ryan' genius
She always looks like that!
Fun fact - the four movies you used for Pixar were produced before Disney bought them.
Yup remember the time in the early 2000s when Disney almost went bankrupt
@@blairpearson9791 yeah, I was really rooting for it, even back then 🤔
They wernt to bad back then. They atleast experimented with Treasure planet and Atlantis classics in my book
Oh no! I really hope The Critical Drinker can find some other Pixar movies to like _after_ Disney bought Pixar. What about Ratatouille, Up and Coco?
@@blairpearson9791 Disney was saved by Eisner and his partner (who was in charge of the finances), but when he died, Eisner lost his damn mind and drove Disney to the brink.
They fired him for doing everything he was told to do
@Drinker, your powers of observation and your application of logic / good sense are truly rare. Your reviews should be required viewing for all students in the entertainment production biz (and perhaps all students of the humanities and philosophy). Keep it up!
The woman screaming at the inauguration is really the clip that keeps on giving.
Some live on to be legends. Others live on to be memes.
The eternal meme !
woman?
Mf looks like a political indulged Scott the Woz
That's a woman?
I think you give Chapek too much credit. He wasn't trying to clamp down on 'The Message.' In fact, it got worse under his tenure - he didn't seem to care. I don't think he linked poor performance to message-driven storytelling, or else he would have become more involved with snuffing out crap projects instead of just trying to enable the company to survive to produce more of the same.
There was a financial bet on Disney Plus. I don't know whether this started before him or what. If you have a couple films, then you can handcraft them. If you're mid-way through a bet that requires huge amounts of content (critical drinker summed it up as something along the lines of 'the sludge must flow'), then it's difficult to tell the difference between creative bankruptcy and paring back quality control. Previously, their concern might have been to not crap on their brand. Now, maybe it's "well if we kill this turkey, then we have a gap. If we have nothing worth seeing coming out, then we might as well be netflix!"
@@victorcates9330 Disney Plus was Iger's baby, one he left in critical condition before he left. Loss of Cricket in India was a major reason for its troubles.
Yeah, She-Hulk was filmed and came out during his tenure. Critical Drinker was drinking before he made this.
Exactly. Nothing got better under Chapek. It only got worse. Exhibit A: The Galactic Starcruiser Hellhole- I mean... Hotel.
@@jacob4920 Again, that was started under Iger. Granted, I concede that Chapek could have put his foot down and fixed it before it went live but failed to do so.
So, for the past few years, all I have heard is that it was Bob Chapek who un-Disneyed Disney, took away all the things that made Disney vacations special (Magical Express, Magical Express luggage service, ultra-clean hotels and parks, street performers, good movies you could take kids to, etc) and cut services to the bone. Now he is gone and you are telling me he was about to stage a purge on the true villains? Seems a little odd.
Yeah “Chapek was the Resistance” was not the take I expected tbh
Yeah, this video was pretty dumb. All I got from it was that Bob Chapekt was going to un-disneyed disney with his own hands, while making sure to piss of his bosses.
I thought he only had the job for about a year?
@@jimmynich4791 Chapek took over shortly before the pandemic stuff started. Iger stayed on the board until a year ago, which is probably why you are confused.
It makes perfect sense. He’s a money man. A cheapskate. He might have been cutting corners in Disneyland, but it’s for the exact same reason he was going to purge Disney of all the people not making money. Money.
It won’t change anything, but at least it shows that Disney is an incompetent mess
Remember the 2000’s when Disney took creative risks? We got some great movies: Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy, Tron Legacy, Treasure Planet, etc.
I wish the audience took risks as well. Like risking not seeing a film just because it's a part of a "beloved franchise". Trash keeps getting make because trash keeps making money. Pirates 1, Tron Legacy, Cruella and Rogue One are some of the best Disney has released in the past 20 years.
True, now they just do useless stuff with awful stories with terrible characters
"great movies: Pirates of the Caribbean trilogy"
2/3rds of this statement are wrong.
yeah those days are gone
One of my favorites from that era is Miracle about the 1980 Miracle on Ice.
He’s the guy who brought woke into the company and now he’s gonna dig them into an even deeper hole.
no, he didn't that was Iger. Chapek was much more conservative
Hope it makes him gay ! (Like in 'happy') lol.
Drinker i need answer. I am confused. He got booed in d23 expo. I watched a video about he being bad for disney. I thought to myself him going away was good.
@@chileanyways196 and that make him good? He did stupid decisions too
You must not have been paying attention to when the woke stuff started. It happened under Iger, 2016 was about the main kickoff for a huge chunk of it.
The man is back to finish what he started.
At this point, I’m really just looking forward to watching Disney implode
Cheers, you marvelous Scots boozer. Excellent writing, hilarious reading. Sounds spontaneous but it's obvious you worked hard to get the lines and phrasing spot on. I owe you a couple of beers.
The sad thing is: even in the best-case scenario that Disney were to go nova and vanish, releasing all their IP hostages from their creative dungeons, those responsible would just abandon their deceased host body and latch on to other corporations, parasites that they are.
Which is why no one who values their life, liberty, and livelihood should ever give in to these people. Ever. Parasites cannot survive outside of the host that they ultimately consume and kill from the inside out. Refuse them entry in the first place, and they will die outside in the cold.
Yeah, but at least there would be the stench of Disney's corpse on them. I think you greatly underestimate how other companies view the people who bring about the demise of their previous employer. Caterpillar didn't hire a single factory worker from Perkins engine after that company went belly up in the 80s.
True.
Not likely to happen at Warner/Discovery, under Zaslav, seeing as that guy just "cleaned house" of all that scum and villainy very recently.
@@jacob4920 I hope he stays that way ngl. Doing what we fans like and give us the best possible movies and series
This was Iger's plan from the beginning. He knew it was going to get really bad so left so he wouldn't get any of the blame and swoop in at the 11th hour and "fix" everything. Of course it's only going to get worse from here.
‘Fix’ indeed
@@toolegittoquit_001 Drinker i need answer. I am confused. He got booed in d23 expo. I watched a video about he being bad for disney. I thought to myself him going away was good.
Conspiracy Theory much? I know! Iger returned from the center of "Flat Earth" with the help of Gray extraterrestrials from Area 51, paid for by the scientist keeping Walt Disney's frozen head in a basement.
@@seanmachado7681 doesn’t matter if it’s a conspiracy. Iger isn’t the Disney Messiah. Iger is the Disney slayer. He’s the one responsible for the mess. Bob2 merely put gasoline on what Bob1 had started.
@@derbuckeyetribe9789 they both sucked
I just hate how the Drinker and midnight edge try to paint Chapek as a martyr
It's ridiculous how bad the lessons/morals being taught in Disney's newer films and TV shows really are.
A big part of what made the old Disney flicks so good was the morals they taught, at first based on old fairy tales and the timeless lessons and virtues they held (kindness, courage, honesty, bravery, integrity, selflessness etc.).
But the lessons and morals in the latest parade of trash from Disney seem to have been crafted by Patrick Bateman.
I feel like even with everything we know about Disney there is still an unknown drama within Disney we're unaware of.
Luke swigging that green milk fresh from the tiddy, with a look on his face like he just snorted a line of the "good stuff", never gets old. Really is the perfect metaphor for modern cinema.
It really looks like Rian Johnson was giving him direction to put more feeling into it, while an exasperated Mark Hamil finally went, "Fine, you want Luke to drink milk, here's the biggest FU Got Milk commercial ever."
Here is the full clip bob chapek fired
ruclips.net/video/mCfYi7634rU/видео.html
Movie was overhated
@@justinmeniru3663 no, that film was not hated enough. Hot dumpster fire is being too kind.
Hamill btw fucking hated what Johnson did to Luke Skywalker, they argued a lot during the shooting and you can see that Hamill looked absolutely dejected in several of the interviews done to promote that movie. He might be another run of the mill libtard, but at least he had a great deal of respect and love for the character he brought to life.
"We don't make movies to make money. We make money to make more movies." ― Walt Disney
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If only that mentality in the Disney company still existed
And he wanted regular families to be able to afford to go to Disneyland, not just rich people. He would've hated that "Galactic Starcruiser".
Walt was a genius though and his whole idea was for Disney to be for all ages and affordable to the every day person. The documentaries he used to do himself were so good too.
@@DEVILTAZ35 Well... like Henry Ford. For all his antics, his was idea that his workers should actually be able to buy cars they were building at some point....
Palpatine has emerged!!! It’s Disney CFO Christine McCarthy! She is in a prime position to be Iger’s successor and she’s the one that threw Chapek under the bus after supporting him previously
It's about time Disney goes through a new dark age
We are already there. The old one started before Walt died. It started on August 29, 1964. But unlike that one, there is no coming back from this.
The dumbest part about Disney’s “Message” is that it’s so brokebrained that it ends up feeling like an insult to whatever community they’re trying to convince in order to purchase movie tickets.
Echo’s portrayal in Hawkeye was really well done while I fear that an entire series around her is going to fail as it tries to push multiple agendas onto her and the plot.
You miss the original MESSAGE - the narrative must be white, christian, nuclear family. Males save the day, women are at best eye candy, keep the non-whites to a minimum and if its live action, hire a white guy that kinda looks non-white. And my favorite from the 80's, the military is mostly white but he has just bit of injun in him so that he's a good tracker and sniper. God bless America.
Echo was easily the best part of Hawkeye. That doesn't mean I'm gonna support Disney Plus though.
@@bobnewsdog bruh, as a western european company showing european stories, I as an asian expect to see 90% white characters only lol. we in Singapore aren't going to make a movie full of blacks because there are 0 % blacks here.
@@manojpatra2840 Bruh, America is different and better than all the other countries. We're a melting pot. Not a white supremacist country. your narrative is 1950's
Sorry bro, who is echo? Hawkeye? Are these woke TV shows you talking about? I don't watch em my man, with great disrespect. The fans reject!
I for one, am happy to see this. Disney is evil - let it fail. Let it's failure be a warning to everyone else.
Disney is evil?
What makes you think that it’s evil?
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@@Heart0Darkness Differences in business practices. People will attribute “evil” to every thing they don’t like. In this case, it’s Disney. I will say, they are absolute hypocrites. They’ll say they stand with John Boyega, but will allow China to relegate his photo to that of background character. They only do what benefits their profit margins.
@@Heart0Darkness Eazyy. It's the evil stepmother from the Cinderella movie!!
@@Heart0Darkness When it allows itself to be ruled by evil, then it becomes evil.
All the executives will do is go to other companies and keep making the billions they always have. This sadly, won't change anything but it's a nice illusion to fall asleep to, I guess.
I have always felt that Disney has a age limit, and their attempt to glom into every studio and franchise is just proof of it.
I agree with you Drinker. I just wish we could go back to the good old days when movies were fun entertaining and not always pushing THE MESSAGE. Every time I watch any of these new shows or movies I get my pillow and blanket and crash on the couch because it’s so bland and dull.
Then, maybe the message doesn’t go far enough.
"They were like the Borg from Star Trek, only more sinister and less creative." -- Never change man
You give Bob Chapek too much credit. At least in a similar case with the WB/Discovery merger the new boss was bold to straight up cancel shit he felt was damaging to the brand. Bob Chapek was content with producing the same slop, just with an even shorter staff to work on these shows for short term profit.
I think the difference is David Zaslav bought WB, he brought his own people in and fired the executives from the previous regime. Chapek didn't have that, which is why you had all those articles from media outlets dragging his name through the mud.
You have to understand the difference between chapek and zazlav in the case of David zazlav the only reason he can do what he can is because he essentially pulled a corporate coup and the board of directors are his appointees so he can essentially do whatever the hell he wants whereas chapek was in a losing battle from the very beginning he had a board that was mostly against him staff that was mostly against him and most of his executives were against him so instead of taking large takes he couldn't do much
Yeah, I don't know a lot about Disney politics, but it really seems like Drinker is twisting himself into pretzels to try and tell a story about how the evil woke activists defeated a pure hearted CEO.
@@TwoDollarGararge you know what he could have done? He's could have fired Kathleen Kennedy day one, and replaced her with his own person. Are they going to fire him one day after hiring him? No they would not. He had a great excuse to, she had completely mismanaged Star Wars. If Chapek's guy was able to turn things around on Lucasfilm they would not have a case to fire him.
@@evancombs5159 actually he couldn't do that you don't understand Kathleen Kennedy is friends with Steven Spielberg and married to Hollywood royalty so no The only way she's leaving is if she leaves on her own accord
You are WAY to kind to Chapek here. The movies and shows were actually getting worse with him in charge and the parks became more expensive, wait times increased, repairs were being neglected, all because he is nothing more than a bean counter who thinks the way to make money in theme parks is to raise prices and cut staff and other necessary costs. His tenure was a fail right out of the gate. If anything good comes of this, the parks might return to some sort of respectability, but overall, I think it's going to take a complete ideological overhaul to get the Disney name back to Walt Disney reverence.
I used to be a Disney fanatic, movies, parks, the whole shebang. I have not watched a new Disney film, bought a Disney item or been to a Disney park in over five years.
Even cancelled Disney plus. Great take Drinker.
I wonder what changed,
Certainly not the fact that you are perhaps consuming a large amount of right wing, hysterical news coverage that labels everything woke if it remotely involves a non-white, straight person.
Certainly not that 😂
@@Heart0Darkness Nothing original in the films, endless remakes, political nonsense shoved down your throat. Stale, packed theme parks geared toward merchandise rather than customer experience. Leave it to a leftist to make it about race, that's all you people ever think about.
5? Why
As a Disney fanatic you most likely already own everything that's on D+ anyway so no big loss.
@@tikitavi7120 how do you know I’m a leftist? 😂😂😂 what a big assumption you are making.
I’m not defending their bad decisions am I?
But if you’re Al going to cry about “wokeness” you will have to be more specific
These past several years will be known forever as the “dark times” of cinema. Hopefully we’ll make it out and make movies great again.
They will indeed. I really hope things improve.
It's part of human nature to wish to create beautiful things
That desire perseveres despite all the zionism
You know the world is fucked up when my favourite movies these last two years have been:
A Director’s Cut of a DC movie that was completely vandalized
A kid’s film about a super speed talking blue hedgehog
And a multiverse fever dream about an overworked woman who needs to learn empathy for everyone and everything around her… all at once…
Cinema is a reflection of society. If society is more convinced with being politically correct than being honest, then we'll continue to have junk movies.
@@cloudshines812 real.
The issue that I had with Chapek was what he decided to do to the parks with Genie+ and the doing away with the old annual pass system. Idk if that was entirely his deal, but I doubt that the decision was entirely out of his hands.
*4:43* Not only should you not back down from this kind of behavior, I would actually encourage it (or at the very least be extremely happy).
I would think of it as this: "You are exactly the people I need to fire. Thank you so much for identifying yourselves to me. This company will not succeed if any of the people like you are left inside of it (people who are more focused on displaying your personal opinions on company time instead of building the company). I was worried I was going to have to try to find you people hidden in the machinery of the company, but instead here you are identifying yourselves while actively carrying out fire-able offenses. Sincerely, thank you so much."
to be honest, in a messed up way it’s pretty entertaining watching disney crumble. my brother is a HUGE star wars fan, he even had a star wars themed wedding, but when we were drunk one night i asked him what he thinks about the new movies and he dead ass says “i liked the mandolorian, i just pretend anything after 2010 doesn’t exist”. that’s how you know you fucked up a franchise when your biggest fans are just like nah fuck that
It is not crumbling. They make more money than ever. Anything they produce, however shyte it is, gets consumed.
They don't care whether we like their franchises. Conflict means on-line presence and that feeds them.
Wish I could say the same about my brother. He’s obsessed with Disney to a point where its become seriously unhealthy. Like he’ll remind my family about the next pointless project… or defend any Disney’s woke bullshit…
And he’s 28, doesn’t have a girlfriend… still lives with my parents… and has a pretty low end job.
Meanwhile I’m trying my best everyday to become a better writer and person through college because I want to be a journalist and make a difference in this “piece of shittake planet”
@@amoderatelysizedmango2551 I see that same feeling when I look in a mirror. I absolutely FUCKING HATE Disney for what they did to Star Wars. But I wasn't bad big of an Indiana Jones fan but you couldn't pay me to go to see the uttter shit movie that's gonna be!
You really ought to tell your brother to check out Clone Wars Season 7 and the Bad Batch a watch.
Bringing Bob back is like bringng the arsonist back to put out the fire.
Never underestimate the audience.
We did a case study in business school about Disney, and they haven't been in the content creation business for a long time. It's all about brand acquisition. They'll milk that cash cow and everyone will just watch as the things they love are bastardized.
The cow has mastitis.
I feel sorry for Walt Disney, if he could see what his dream has become he would be disgusted.
I am confused. He got booed in d23 expo. I watched a video about he being bad for disney. Many people hate him. But drinker is saying otherwise. Give me answer.
He would be fuming with anger.
Idk he was a 33rd degree mason he probably would like this
Disney has never not been pure evil.
Nah … this was Disneys plan too
As much I love some of Disney’s older work - the work I grew up on - I think it’s for the better that this company is taking a dive. When it comes to storytelling and art, something like Disney is not good. I hope the whole thing falls apart and from there we can have smaller, independent studios doing their own things and making art that, while it definitely won’t appeal to everyone, nor should it, will actually be genuine and authentic.
I feel the same way
Indeed. They really have done some absolute rotten shit, even long before this all happened. As much as I love some of the things they've made, even I think the best possible thing that could happen for everything related to tv, film, and even fiction on the whole, is for Disney to go kaput.
well said @ryancason7819 , this has been by far one of the best comments on Disney in general, the more Disney rises, the harder Disney has been making things for true art and creativity from other smaller studios to come out. Disney is a "safe" entertainment and medium, and has been getting worse for decades. It's obvious they had enough with art and creativity when they sabotaged Treasure Planet's box office by not even promoting it, even when it tried to do something original. And ever since the mid 2000s, Disney has been killing any ounce of creativity that any of its own writers had, in favor of the new woke writers that Critical Drinker talks about. I knew this the moment I heard that Star Wars The Force Awakens was being rushed in production despite pleas from JJ Abrams to have a rewrite of the script back in 2015, but Disney refused in favor of not delaying the schedule. Even someone like JJ Abrams knew that the Star Wars sequels needed more work before they were released, but Disney said no. If you guys need proof, look it up and you'll see all this is true, and that the cracks were showing even back in the 90s. I even remember Disney making commercials threatening to never release "The Lion King" in VHS or DVDs again back in the early 2000s when i was a kid, this was before blu ray was a thing. They were trying to get people to go rush to the stores to buy copies of the lion king even back then by blatantly lying saying "get it now, before it goes back in the Disney Golden Vault forever." Anyone else remember that? Every commercial on Disney films back then was just constantly trying to get you to buy all their classics or go to Disneyland. Every company does that right? Give commercials for people to buy their products? Well that's not what Disney used to do, they would play commercials for the same product one after another. Let's say you bought Aladdin or Tarzan, there would be about 10 different Disney commercials on some movie VHS before the movie even began playing. Disney has always been the same, shoving their classics down your throat. The remakes arent anything new, just another way to shove their classics down your throats or into your hands at the stores or online.
Disney needs to go down for creativity to go back up, otherwise they just have a monopoly on the entertainment industry at this point, which kills any chance of other studios making something genuine and new and refreshing to come along. Disney knows this and will do anything it can to kill the other studios and be your only source of entertainment. Not even Sony is that greedy, at least they bit the bullet and let Spiderman into Disney's Marvel. Disney would never do that. Disney takes on the cake on greediest company cuz it bought all the big studios like Pixar, Lucasfilm, and Marvel lol. Heck, if you look up "Disney denies Spider-Man grave for young fan" you'll see everything you need to know about Disney. Some kid was a fan of Spiderman and so when the kid died, the parents put a spiderman on his grave and took a picture of it sharing it on social media telling their friends about how their kid died and how they put spidey on the grave cuz the kid was a big fan. What did Disney do? They said basically "we wont allow you to do this because we want to preserve the “innocence” and “magic” of the company’s characters. They wanted to “disassociate their characters with death.” Bro, just let people do what they want. It's not hurting anybody to have a Spiderman on a kid's grave, only your own reputation to deny grieving parents something very very very small that isnt even doing any harm to your box office money.
Thank you for coming to my TED talk, i didnt know how much I was disappointed in Disney until just now after writing all this lol, not that i had much respect for them in the first place.
Disney's greatest productions came about because of legitimate competition: Don Bluth, Fox Animation, Hannah-Barbarra, et. al. Today the only real competition they face is from Anime. And Disney is too stupid to realize that Japanese companies like Kadokawa are going to eat their lunch.
I went from a huge Star Wars and marvel fan, to boycotting anything they put out for the foreseeable future. I have no desire to watch terrible pandering movies.
I'll never get tired of Drinker and the "The Message" line in his videos.
5:27 I've been trying for years to find a way to word this. You did it so eloquently for me.
7:01 same could also be said for American politics post-2020.
Thank you, Critical Drinker!
Not only american politics...
There was a cool theory I saw recently. Iger left just as Disney hit the downturn, and Covid hit. To not be blamed, he swapped out for Chapek, who was meant to take the fall so Iger could swoop in after and become the Bob who "saved Disney." Sounds a little conspiratorial, but also seems correct.
Edit: yeah, seeing what Chapek's plan would do would've been interesting. But it seems like Disney is dedicated to a complete and utter downturn 😂
I mean it's exactly what happened.
Likely he saw the downturn and thought 'good time for an old fella like me to check out, head held high'. He is likely only keeping the seat warm as a favour while Disney figured shit out, I give it 2 years, tops.
The idea he was planning to come back is possible, but I don't think likely. He probably just wants to save his fucking stock value more than any other factor 💰
They are in a cult. They are on team Woke/blue. They will tear down everything just to try to gain it more power
That's an old theory.
Most people in the Fandom Menace saw, day one, Iger leaving as a defense move.
Chapek had the time to counter Iger and he failed at that, being ineffective and making fans more angry.
Disney is and will remain evil.
Bob Chapek always seemed like an irrational choice. But as a fall-guy, it all makes sense.
I was a massive Disney fan as a child. It's hard to believe how much I want this company to crash and burn now. Looks like the personal boycott I've been running of all their products for the last three years will continue.
Amen...same here!
Keep it up! The pendulum may not seem like it's swinging around, but it is.
A movie success is more than just the box office. The ones with The Message have had no merchandise, no memes, no aftermarket sales, no third party deals, and so on.
I bet you've watched all the content and you talk incessently about them but insist you've never watched any of it, you just "heard about" from somewhere else. Just like all those sports fans who swear they boycott ESPN but then talk about games they watched.... that were only available on ESPN. Your bullshit's old as the hills.
Disney was always garbage. Now they're just more overt with their gay messaging.
I grew up on Lady and the Tramp, the Fox and the Hound, The Jungle Book and my favorite "I can't believe it's a Disney Movie" TRON a definer of sci-fi. Now Disney is woke, broke and a greedy revenue joke.
What? You mean Disney won't make Butch Snow White & The Seven Lesbian Dwarfs? OH THE ZIRMANITY!
Thanks for the video, great points and compilation of clips. Makes me sad seeing Disney of days past and what could have been. I won’t show my small children anything post 2015 from Disney. Had to bust out my old video collection from my childhood
Zootopia was pretty good...
@@Wolffman109 for yet another *Song of the South* wannabe.
I appreciate you not just saying “they did it for the money “ . Its way beyond that and always has been. This is about popularity amongst the masses to a message.
That’s true, popularity is power.
I am confused. He got booed in d23 expo. I watched a video about he being bad for disney. Many people hate him. But drinker is saying otherwise. Give me answer.
please do not misinterpret
popularity amongst the masses = money
this is 1,000% a money move for the mouse
@griffy ye this is an air fryer video. is this some sort of metaphor?
@Rуаn RеуnоIds shorts 🅥 by feeding street animals? bogus link, my guy.
As long as people continue to give them money, they’ll continue doing what they’re doing. The only thing they really care about is money, so if you don’t like the message they’re sending out, quit giving it to them.
They have lost $150 billion since February. This is why Chapek is out. Money speaks very loudly to these people.
@@allthenewz good, let it burn
@@bluecomet1109 good description. 👌
No they won't. The ESG funding courtesy of Blackrock Vanguard ensures that they'll never "go broke" despite "getting woke"
They are not seeing success at the box office or the theme parks. They are lossing money big time.
There's one thing you're not recognizing. The parks division. Iger isn't doing the parks any favor, but he's practically the second coming of Walt himself compared to Chapek.
He slashed Imagineering, (For the uninitiated, that's the creative team behind Disney rides, lands, and attractions) literally laying off about HALF of them with little warning, and then forcing the rest to relocate from California to Florida, also with little warning.
He hiked the park admission price up to an unreasonable point, and instead of raising the park's amenities as a result, lowered them. The maintenance and cleanliness went from meticulous to bare minimum. Workers were hurt as well, their pay was cut to minimum wage and many of them lost their homes, with insane working hours, sometimes supplied and changed at the last minute.
He changed the FastPass system to something you have to pay for. ($20 dollars per person) and as a result the day becomes less fun because you'll spend the whole day looking at your phone to try and get your money's worth. He would add hidden fees everywhere in the process he could, making you feel like you are being nickle-and-dimed (because you are) at every step.
crazy how both sides of the aisle hate disney but only one of them understands why
As a once dedicated Disney fan, all I can think of to say is... So long Disney, don't let the theater doors hit you in the back side on the way out.
Agreed!
The Drinker I just want to say God bless you for everything you do you are a breath of fresh air and some may misunderstand your intentions I know that they're righteous in the name of great filmmaking
Always strange to see bots making fun of other bots
Can we getting Michael Eisner back? Dude always recognized a good story
He started this mess by bringing Robert Iger into the company with the ABC merger. Disney was firing on all cylinders up until that point.
Even Pixar has lost its luster since Disney actually bought it out. Now, all they can do anymore is stupid, sanctimonious, manipulative movies about shapeless blobs. All this Boomer daddy issue crap has been dragging cinema down since the end of the 1960s and it has got to fucking stop.
It is sad to see such an amazing company come to this sad end. It was the backdrop of many people's lives. The films of childhood, the amazing stories of Robin hood. and snow white, the imagination of us all brought into reality. Now, smashed and wrecked by identity politics and their sneering hordes of fanatics. We warned them! Again and again, and they refused to listen and killed the messengers. Oh well, time to move on and remember the good days. I hope the "message" was worth it.
Thanks, Drinker. Thanks for your content. Maybe it's the 90's grunge kid in me...but it's good to hear people call the establishment out on their ideoligical garbage. I used to enjoy this escapism stuff. Used to ride by bike for miles to the comic shop to pick up my Wizard magazine and comics. Then I grew up and got a family and I was able to capture a little of that when I had kids. So, I used to love taking my sons to go see the movies and comic shops. I even suprised them by taking them out of school early to see Avengers when it first came out. Now due to the many reasons you list in your videos (awful writing, crapping on legacy characters, remakes, retcons, feminizing of men, etc)...they have completely destroyed a part of my life I used to hold so dear and I just want to watch it all burn. Every bit of it. Perhaps if all it burned, something beautiful would and powerful would be able to come out of it.
Despite the Drinker's perspective on the matter, the message is littered throughout all of our childhoods, hidden in the subtext of pretty much every film we "Loved" growing up. It's only become blatantly obvious in recent years because they know you can do nothing to stop it.
Their agenda is against the family so they don't make movies families want to wztch
@@ChainedFei I know you're absolutely right on this, as well. When we go back and watch older movies we know see "THE MESSAGE" clearer (albeit more subtle) I think the problem, is that it's no longer a side point you take or leave, it's the central focus. My wife and I also sometimes view the subtle versions of the stuff is a bit more nefarious actually.
Good post. You and I are kindred spirits.
@@ChainedFei It was still subtle enough not to overcome the art. Now it seems more of the priority than telling a good story. I'd love to have those days back.
I feel so bad for Mr Walt Disney. He’s not just turning over in his grave, he’s spin cycling in it.
I recall seeing a theory of generating unlimited energy by hooking up a generator to Walt Disney as he turns in his grave.
They could power the state of California by how frequently and rapidly he's turning over in there.
@@dbrooke3629 I was about to say the same.
He's spinning so fast in his grave, he's become a renewable power source.
@@That-guy916 most company owners were at the time so I wouldn’t doubt it
Thanks for the insight Drinker. Appreciate the work you do in exposing “the message”.
But what is the message?
Said it better than anyone else could! Well done my friend!
"The More Things Change The More They Stay The Same"............my thoughts exactly. Also it was good of you to finish the video with an iconic character being completely disrespected by Disney to show how low the company has fallen.
It's sad how accurate the drinkers predictions have been with this one.
I think this gives Chapek way too much credit and does not examine massive issues that have arisen in the parks and other non movie and show production areas.
Disney is unrecognizable now.
They have become a shadow of their former self.
Don’t think I’ve seen positive news relating Disney in fucking forever, it’s actually quite impressive.
It’s more depressing than anything, really.
almost as if there are consequences for bad decisions.
I worry for movies like Deadpool 3. They need to give them freedom to make it the way it needs to be made like the source material, but when has Disney ever given that creative freedom to anyone. The only show that still has creative freedom due to the writers being deep in the lore and fans of the IP is the Mandalorian. Hope Filoni ans Favreau can hold out and keep Kennedy and Igor from screwing that up next season as well.
"Most impressive"
@@donoimdono2702 Drinker i need answer. I am confused. He got booed in d23 expo. I watched a video about he being bad for disney. I thought to myself him going away was good.
1:44 “*THE MESSAGE!*” 🤦♀️
Hey! Long time subscriber, I love your videos and I hate asking for you to review stuff but I recently saw “The Menu” and I really enjoyed it. I agree with almost every review you’ve made and I’d really like to hear your take on it! It’s a thriller and i would recommend seeing it blind.
I laughed when I first saw this news. It's obvious Chapek was a chump and that hostage video (perfect description by you) had to be the most humiliating moment of the man's life. And with Iger back, I think I can finally see my wish for Disney come true - burn it to the ground, launch the rubble into the sun and salt the earth when it's gone. Couldn't happen to a more deserving group of sociopaths.
Praise the sun
It hasn't happened yet, and it'll get worse before it gets better.
@@propheinx2250 Sounds like the idiotic concept of homoeopathy, which is totally wrong in all aspects.
Kudos to you for pointing that out.
I’m glad you said salt the earth after setting it ablaze lol not many people know what that entails after going scorched earth on enemy land. In this case, our enemy being the land of Disney.
Absolutely! I will be more than happy to bring the salt, marshmallows, and beer when the whole thing collapses around them. Die Disney, die.
Disney: "best we can do is a black little mermaid" *Rick laugh*
I hope Disney burns to the ground. What they did to star was is beyond treacherous.
Straw man argument detected, ding-dong you're wrong!
...just kidding haha
Bud, we should all be so lucky as to hold our bosses hostage. You are SERIOUSLY giving Chapek too much credit.
There's the old saying of, "too big to fail," but Disney has gotten so big that it's collapse seems like an inevitable consequence, which would ultimately be for the best.
The "too big to fail" moniker was assigned to large financial institutes like Barings Bank and Leaman Brothers. In both cases it took exceptional act to force them to collapse. Disney is not doing anything nearly this stupid and even turned a profit during the pandemic. The proposed layoffs were because they didn't meet preditions and that was most due to over spend on their streaming service which has resulted in higher subsciptions so its not the failing its being made out to be.
True....in time....the dumpster fire will fizzle to ash ✝️⚘️🙏
Nothing is "too big to fail."
You can accomplish anything if you put all your mind and heart into it. Including ruining a company''s reputation.
Sorry to destory your dreams but Disney isn't going to fail. It's parks are still the gold standard for other parks around the world, and they now also own all of FOX IP like Xmen and Avatar. Their stock is down over 30% since Iger retired and yet they are still worth almost $200 billion dollars. You have any idea how many companies would kill to be in their "bad" position right now
I always figured that phrase was originally used for financial firms less to mean "It can't possibly fail, it's too big" and more "It's way too influential on the economy, we can't let it fail!"
Years past, I would be super excited for the next Marvel movie. I remember being excited for WandaVision, even. But now... I get excited for Nerdrotic, Disparu, Just Some Guy, the Little Platoon, Mauler, and of course the one and only Critical Drinker putting out videos ripping those things apart. How the times have changed.
Little Platoons Wakanda Forever review yesterday was fantastic. He always made a very competent impression on me in the live streams. But his own stuff sure does come very close to maulers, too. It's great having a guy this talented and with such wit rising up these days still. Ngl I watched gaming coverage along these lines for years. But at some point it just got long-winded and boring, many barely made any point. But it really looks like movie critics are far better at this type of stuff, and it's amazing to watch.
Regarding Disparu, does he only make short videos and is on streams? Because I honestly lost interest in these types of channels very quickly. For as much as I do like Gray, Jeremy and even Ryan on streams, their content is very low effort and uninformed stuff I do not want to waste my time on.
Wanda vision was the Last good thing
@@bazzy5644 yes, I saw his review too! The man has an intelligent and humorous take on things that's a joy to watch.
Disparu doesn't tend to make things as long as Mauler and the little Platoon, but he has made things half an hour or so
@@SubZero-hs9xc if they'd only changed the ending just a tiny bit- all we needed was for Monica to say 'Im sorry for your loss' rather than the sacrifice bullshit, and for Wanda to say 'Im sorry for what my loss made me do'
Sadly the all female scene in end game told us exactly where they were going to go.
LMAO!!!! It is Disney's grave. I can only laugh as the dig it deeper and quicker.
Remember all those high profile directors who dropped out of directing Disney-owned movies after they've been announced and even filmed? This reminds me of that. Disney is so hellbent on churning out as many products as possible as fast as possible before they even know what they want the products to be. And this mad dash seems to have gone all the way up to the top of the company. They hired Chapek before they even knew if he was the best person for the job.
Actually, they didn't give him a chance to do the job.
11 months. That's all he had... while being saddled with Iger's legacy-people.
And before they even knew what they had, they patented it, and packaged it, and slapped it on a plastic lunch box.
Wrong. Chapek was Iger's choice. Chapek was the guy running theme parks. The long lines, expensive food and tickets? Chapek. However, once Covid-19 came, it was Iger who stayed on at Disney to help.
Essentially, Chapek was doing what he wanted. Iger didn't like it.
@@dilungmoveityafool777 Iger stayed on to help... turn Disney into a dumpster fire.
You blame Chapek for the parks?
Well, congratulations. You owned yourself, because back then, Iger was Chapek's BOSS.
Ultimately, everything you blame Chapek for was STILL Iger's... "help".
Chapek is just a scapegoat.
Why don't you bring up that these companies have ESG scores set by investors that mandate they push THE MESSAGE or they tell moneyed people they it's not a worthy investment? It's like a massive gang that tells every major company what to do, media and otherwise.
This was amazingly prophetic.