Disney - An Empire In Collapse
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- Опубликовано: 5 фев 2023
- Disney isn't looking too healthy these days, with massive financial losses, collapsing stock prices and internal power struggles threatening to tear the House of Mouse apart at the seams. How did this happen? Let's find out.
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Disney used to touch our hearts. Now they touch us inappropriately.
Whack the pedo Mouse.
@slick Nah, but they certainly are now.
just like drinker and tatiana
And call you a bigot when you complain.
Sad but true
Disney turned me from a 40 year Star Wars fan into someone who didn't care anymore about that galaxy far far away. Good job.
The EU endures.
Do not forget...
i stopped spending money on it ever since TFA, but i still keep tabs on the IP, just in case...
@@Underworlder5 Same here. TFA was a decent movie - not good, but decent. It was a *very poor* start for a trilogy though. (Never make your villain out to be a p****! because you rely on him to built the threat over a series.) And I saw with TLJ that things were just going downhill from there.
@@TheMaleRei exactly. And dave filoni's work on the prequel era and after the original trilogy has been doing good. That mandalorian arc from season 7 of clone wars was pure art.
If you're a true fan, stick to the real canon in the extended Universe. Disneywars is shit.
"Disney built by geniuses, inherited by idiots" -The Critical Drinker
Well said, mate. Sadly. Well said.
The idiots are the MAGA GOP
I don't even agree with that.
Walt Disney was a Nazi boot licker and he basically ripped off the Nazi ideology to build Disney.
If Walt Disney saw what they did to his company he would probably wish he never started it.
Some of the stuff they produced in these days would make him turn in his grave.
He was an absolutely huge antisemite, he's probably pounding on his coffin rn
@@diegodubber2140 you mean freezer
It's sad
Walt Disney would disown them.
Seeing Disney, the company/creator of both our childhoods and adulthoods, destroy itself is both depressing and saddening but utterly satisfying at the same time.
This comment nailed it.
@@BottleBoundRogue 👍👍👍
OH yeah! Makes me sad too but I love a woke corporation losing the culture war!
Adult hood? They never did anything when I was an adult.
Should’ve made actual compelling stories rather than only focusing on agendas
Lucas buying back Lucasfilm at a discount and throwing everything Disney did in the trash is the first true happy thought I've had this week.
I don't think it's possible though. The $4bil he got from Disney for the rights was set up as art fund/charity, so he can't use any of it to buy the rights back, and I doubt he has enough personal capital to liquidate or mortgage in order to finance a buy back.
He would need a consortium to make a bid and chances are, Disney, out of sheer spite, would refuse to sell to him and instead accept any bid form literally anyone else, or hold on until he dies.
@@TheAmateurEditor don't you dare ruin my happy thoughts lol
@@GustavoGplay Personally I'd like to think someone would buy Star Wars without any Lucas involvement and then just make him the head of the creative team so that younger creators can bring his vision to the screen and carry on his legacy when he's gone.
@@TheAmateurEditor No, because we've seeing a number of people that try to turn Star Wars in their own image. Not just Kathlyeen Kennedy, but even during the EU years there were several book writers that tried doing what she was doing. Even Filoni, Lucas' apprentice, frequently fought with his master over the direction of the CGI Clone Wars show over what to do.
@@RandoGrunt Well at some point George Lucas won't be with us anymore, and it'd be better for him to train a protege (or Padawan if you like) that actually loves and understands the material and the wishes of his master, than someone like KK who hates it all and wants to morph it to represent her own sick twisted view of the world. Meh never happen anyway. Say what you like about Filoni, but his stuff is the only thing that's keeping SW alive right now anyway, and they're doing their damnedest to stymie him...
As someone who has a 4 year old boy living in the Philippines I have purchased all the old Disney classics. Bambi. Dumbo. Peter Pan. Etc. because I want him to see the world the way Walt Disney wanted kids to see it. Is to bad Disney has lost its way for both the company and the audience.
corrupt... and did you marry white man? What is his name?
I read this quote the other day that I think sums up Disney perfectly - "When pushing an agenda takes priority over telling a story you have a problem."
@@DmOnNicgrmTheCriticalDrinker11 Time to expose these alphabetically indoctrinated freaks…Kids eating rainbows candy and GMO cereals…and some wonder how the alphabetical cancer spreads!! Chemical in food in the sky and the water…and the Ideological grooming by Disney
Satisfying Larry Fink and boosting their ESG score is their only goal
@@michaelking1770 So the esg won't let me be, let's cut them down on MTV!
Every time a person boycotts Disney, an angel gains its wings
@Aquatic Ape I would think so…I know cherubim, seraphim, & nephilim are mentioned in the Old Testament. There’s also the angels that were stationed at the garden of Eden.
I'm stealing that one! ;)
@@aquaticape2273 yes
so do Muslims
Lastr time i paid for a Disney product was for the force awakens in theater. My house is literally an angel airport.
Where are we supposed to put all these angels? So many…
It’s just shocking that catering to an incredibly vocal, incredibly woke, and incredibly *small* minority of people was not a sound business strategy. Truly, I am befuddled.
You forgot that those people Disney is catering to are broke and don't buy anything other than blue hair dye and $15 soy lattes.
They overestimated how popular the politics were. They were popular at first, but everything is collapsing due to political infighting, narcissistss masquerading as activists, and unrealistic expectations. It was just too unstable.
As am I, it truly boggles the mind /j
What is woke? A small minority that’s doing what?
I'd rather be awake and aware of problems, than a Trump sheep.
It was awesome to have our kids during the Disney renaissance and go to the cinéma to see the new Disney movies. All of them had distinguishable artstyle and à good story to tell. My daughters liked Mulan and hercule the most and I had to bought the vhs twice because the cassettes were played so often that they gave up. When a new Disney movie came out in cinema, It was a very significant even that we wouldn't miss and even as adults, we loved the experiences. If you would have told me that Disney will became what it is today, I wouldn't have believed you but here we are.
Edit: English isn't my language.
There are so many wonderful classics made under the auspices of Disney and those who followed his mould for success. Especially excellent was the music and songs, and the cinematography and sophistication of the animation became stupendous e.g. Beauty and the Beast, Frozen.
Even its live action movies like 20000 Leagues Under the Sea with James Mason and Kirk Douglas were reliable entertainment. Think of the music and songs from The Little Mermaid, The Rescuers, Jungle Book, Aladdin, Mary Poppins, The Lion King, The Hunchback of Notre Dame, even Pete's Dragon (Candle on the Water)...it was nothing short of wonderful.
I think its success has made it so big and lucrative that the people who run it have had to become too distant from the products such that they have lost sight of how what they do has been so successful. I watched a stock market analyist explaining Disney's current strategy into the next few years and it illustrated the sheer enormity of the company; it is so vast that it has to have entire teams to handle each international block, and the units each one pushes (in many different areas e.g. theme parks and merchandising). The revenue streams are so numerous and so widespread that it takes computers to track it all and interpret the trends so that the sales analyists can know what is best to do i.e. continue this line, cut that line, etc. It reduces the whole operation to numbers, and individual products such as the Star Wars IP, become literally just another one of many. When this happens, it's no wonder that those right at the top lose sight of what matters to the consumers. How can an executive care about Star Wars fans' complaints about their perception of a 'lack of quality' when all that executive sees are numbers that show that it's making money? Star Wars was too great *not* to still make a huge profit even in the hands of an idiot like Kathy Kennedy. She could - and did - kill the 'golden goose' yet the executives haven't even noticed because, overall, Disney's profit is still immense, its revenue streams so numerous that a hole as big as the Titanic could be leaking money and those at the top wouldn't see it for a long, long, time.
@@KeldorDAntrell yeah honestly this video does not do a good job of explaining the profit side of things, Disney remains hugely hugely profitable - Disney may be stagnating from a consumer POV (I agree a lot of movies produced by Disney recently has been absolute trash and does not compare to the golden era of Disney films... not even close)
But business remains strong for the company, look at their recent annual report, making more money than the year before
Yes the 80s and 90s were just magical
It’s funny that even tho English isn’t your first language we have very similar experiences with Disney. I remember rewatching little mermaid with my sister endlessly. Looking forward to the new Disney movie coming out and leaving the theatre with a good message and a story worth remembering shame how far they’ve fallen.
The "go away now" was perfectly timed with the Scar kills Mufasa scene 👌
Disney has recently done something that the ABBA group refused to do at the time
Once a member and producer of the band ABBA Benny Andersson was asked in an interview , " You are a mega popular band , a very huge number of people listen to you - why don 't you raise important issues such as political and social in your texts ?"
to which he directly replied , " As soon as we start singing about political and social topics , a huge part of our audience will stop listening to us - that 's why we sing only about good and love , and EVERYONE likes it "
What are the politics of The Lion King (90s)?
@@adamgates1142 Fratricide for political gain is bad, mmkay?
Like what Michael Jordan said, “Republicans buy sneakers too.”
@@adamgates1142 Both Scar and Simba are evil. One is Hitler, the other is Charles Manson.
You can make good, entertaining art that's "political" insofar as it tackles touchy real-life subjects. Entertainment factor aside, it's hard to make art that means something without taking some sort of stance on issues people care about. You've got to be able to see things from different perspectives and say something that people will care about for it to really stick with you.
I've listened to ABBA's music, and it's fine - but when I listen to a song with a message that really means something to me, like All Along the Watchtower or The Times They Are A-Changin', that's one that I can never get tired of and will often wind up on my mind even when it doesn't come on the radio or cross my RUclips recommendations.
The problem with making that kind of art is that you've got to be curious, open-minded, empathetic, and a little bit more subtle than a sledgehammer. It's not the politics that are bad with most of Disney's movies or shows, it's that they're made by incurious, insulated, selfish hacks who aren't that good at what they're doing and have very little interest in emotionally engaging with the subjects they're writing about.
They want to have their cake and eat it too. They want to tackle a political message and have the smug satisfaction of thinking they wrote something mature and groundbreaking, but they don't want to expose themselves to the vulnerability and hard questions that comes with true art. So instead, they just make obnoxious wish-fulfillment fluff that doesn't satisfy the people who really care about the message and just irritates the people who don't care about the message.
Or they make Velma. And you should never, ever make Velma. Remember: friends don't let friends make Velma. Pass it on.
"Puss in Boots: the Last Wish" was a movie Disney wished it made. That was incredible. Universal crushed it on the animated front in 2022.
Very ironic that the company That was Made out of spite Towards Disney Is now above it
Universal/Dreamworks will forever live off of the milk of the "Shrek" franchise! That IP will singlehandedly keep that company afloat, because all of it is just PURE BRILLIANCE!!
Universal does Despicable Me too, right? They're killing Disney
@@VanquishedAgain Despicable Me was made by Illumination
@@benoitloubens7691 does universal have any part in that at all
Disney, gold standard in animated storytelling.
Miyazaki: And I took that personally!
Hayao Miyazaki? Studio Gibli?
Miyazaki? The dark souls guy?
Of course Disney is only the Gold Standard. Everyone knows in the modern ranking that Platinum is higher than Gold. Joking aside, I do agree that Miyazaki's storytelling quality is a step above Disney even at their peak. But, Japanese animation was for a long time considered to be more niche in the Western world and Disney held the crown in large part because the general public didn't know about Miyazaki. Fortunately, a number of successful anime have exposed the genre to a wider audience so it's becoming more mainstream. All I can say is thank God that it's based in Japan and therefore hopefully immune to the distorting effect of certain groups here in the US.
The real issue is this. Disney has lost Walt’s vision for what Disney was supposed to be. They are suffering from a severe case of vision drift.
"Despite all my joking around, I don't want them to fail."
That's where we differ. Disney's manipulation of copyright law has been enough for me to want them to fail for years. The fact that we now live in a world where nearly every one of my favourite movie IPs has been absorbed by their amoeba like form is frightening.
But if they go under, the IPs are going down with them. Trapped in development purgatory forever.
@@Victimesty Maybe that's no bad thing...?
Maybe this will really force investment into new creations?
@@Victimesty I wish they do so we can get new IPs on the scene.
@@Victimesty Then some other companies will buy them
Becoz disney will really need money and they have to sell those in discounts
@@Victimesty they would more likely sell the IPs they have been gobbling up to keep their own in house productions funded.
Either solution is better than a future where every single thing is owned by Disney.
nuDisney’s 3 step strategy :
1)buy the Golden Goose for stupid amounts of money.
2) then immediately slaughter it.
3) be genuinely clueless as to why you’re not getting any golden eggs.
DM ME 🎁🎁👆👆...
2a) Piss in your customers' faces.
EA strategy huh
The problem I see with this is that everyone seems to still talk about Star wars and their shitty IPs. People are still watching this garbage and channels like this are proof of it because it seems like everyone in the comments, despite hating the product it's still paying for it and watching it
no its more like they brought the golden goose but they never bothered to learn how to raise it, what food it likes, how to discipline it so the golden goose didnt have the right conditions to lay those eggs. they still have the goose but now it only lays a egg like once every few decades
On the theme park front there is also something else to consider:
Over the years disney has made the costs of their theme park packages more expensive while simultaneously cutting out what you paid for. For example in the past the shuttle service from a resort/hotel to disney would be part of your package but now has been cut out and you now have to pay for that like a fare fee, but your price for the entire package itself still has gone up for whatever reasons. So in essence you pay more money for less services. And in the current day and age when people don’t have money to swim in unless youre bezos that kind of price gouging makes more people decide to spend their money elsewhere
There's now a fare fee, wow. Disney's gotta make up all that money they lost by turning on traditional family values.
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“I’m old enough to remember when Disney were the gold standard in animation”
I feel that. Oh how time flies.
Kinda glad to see Dreamworks getting the reputation it earns tho
That was 90s,when we were in elementary school.
MGM always topped Disney. Max Fleischer was better, too.
The hype of the new puss in boots is real. Just watched it a couple of days ago and I wanna rewatch it with friends. Its that good
I just thought of a plot for Spider-Man 4.
Jonathan Crane, yes the villain from Batman, owns a streaming service company, and realized during the pandemic that his profits skyrocketed, so he plans to create a deadly virus of his own and replicate the same effects of the previous pandemic, to keep his profits high.
Spider-Man realizes that he can't take Jonathan Crane alone and teams up with Batman to stop his evil plans.
Disney is the embodiment of
"Congratulations, you've played yourself!"
@@chad007. Are you a bot or something too? you keep commenting the same comment on everyone else's comment.
@@crevomon6041 They're all bots. Either that or controlled by people in the developing world who get paid so little for this shit that it's not even worth getting a bot to do it.
When I was a teenager in the 80s there were so many good movies to see ,we were so spoilt. Now I just can't be bothered watching content with no creativity and no heart.Disney deserves to go through the process of a reset to bring us what we deserve ,good stories told with creativity.
finishing the "go away now" with scar throwing mufasa made me chuckle a bit
These days Disney as a company has become the living embodiment of the phrase “The bigger they are, the harder they fall.”
Square cube law: The bigger an entity is, the slower it is and the more energy it takes to move.
Twice the pride, double the fall
As well as ¨Go woke, go broke¨
Too big, too fail
I like "The bigger they are, the harder they fail."
Disney's Civil War has been the most entertaining thing the company has put out in a while.
Hard to believe they got so arrogant as to look the gift horse that was the state of Florida in the mouth over hype about legislation that was based on a lie. What did they think was gonna happen when the went to bat over a bill to protect sex chatting up children?
Ego destroys everything.
It's not a civil war, it's suicide.
And then on the sidelines you have all the burned out fans who want to see stuff actually be good again, and then across from them you have the fairy dusters who want Disney to double down on everything stupid they've done for the last 10 years.
@@ImTheKingOfHyrule good again? that assumes I'd ever waste my money on the mouse again....I WON'T!
I hope Disney goes tits up! i hope they go tits up and that their assets get auctioned off.....
Genuine question... How can a not photorealistic 3D animated movie cost 200 million to make? They could hire 1000 of the best artists on the planet for like 200K a year for that and probably produce the most beautiful 2D animated piece of cinema of all time with every frame handdrawn.
It’s complicated complex corporate nonsense that makes it all more expensive
Embezzlement, bloated salaries, resource mismanagement.
Just found your channel 6 minutes and 57 seconds ago.
I subscribed as a result of this part of your video.
6:57
that's really all it took for me.
Watching Disney slowly fall apart over the last few years has been more entertaining than anything on their streaming platform.
I normally don't care for Hollywood and celebrity news. However seeing Disney suffer does put a smile on my face.
@@gokux75 why though?
Except Home Alone and Home Alone 2: Lost in New York, right? 😀
Star wars rebels wasn't bad...
Didn’t you mean “steaming platform”?
Synching your classic “Go away now!” with Scar tossing Mufasa off of the cliff is S tier editing 😂
He could used The Sparta clip from 300, too.
@@aahzmandiaz2767 Considering this is Disney themed, the lion king was the best choice.
I had actually looked away just before that... Thanks for mentioning it. I rewatched and was rewarded justly!
@@Mikauo_Xblade I forgot to say "... for other videos in the future." I thought that would be clear, that it can and should not be changed in a existing video. But I expected too much. As usual. I apologize.
What you said around the 8 minute mark is exactly what Disney (Bloated, badly managed and coasting on glories past) was in the 70's. It was not at all synonymous with quality, it just pumped out an hour or so or low quality cr*p every week which it syndicated around the world as "The Wonderful World of Disney". It was so bad that they had to invent another studio to release movies so that people would actually go and see them. It took until the release of the Little Mermaid in 1989 and the start of the "Renaissance" before that changed
They created Touchstone Pictures to release R-rated films which wouldn't have been appropriate for the Disney brand. And it worked: Touchstone was a *huge* deal the eighties and nineties, only to wither away as the company got its act together with animated films.
I miss 90s early 2000s of Disney. Hercules, Treasure planet, Lilo and Stitch. Man, I miss those kind of movies 😔
2012 was the last year Disney released a good movie (it was wreck it Ralph)
Can we just take a moment to appreciate the Drinkers signature "go away now" overlaid against Scar pitching Mufassa off the cliff? Well done
I laughed way too hard at that. 🤣🤣🤣
Can I get someone to make that video: the full scene with Drinkers "go away now" dubbed over Scar's "long live the king?"
You know the Drinker is a genius when he puts that in there.
absolutely loved the ending lol
congrats, u have eyes
Looking at Disney now is like watching your close friend get slowly corrupted by drugs
Hard but true.
More like a friend falling into a hate soaked anti white doomsday death cult that worships Evil, malign narcissistic parasites that it hopes will bring death to humanity and the world just so it can ruin over the ashes of all that is good in this world and live out its sick demented fantasies over the tattered remnants of its diseased “ideals” and make its hivemind feel better about marinating in its own degenerate filth.
2:55 that poster looks like something I'd find at my local children's theatre, not something made by a multi billion dollar company that invested hundreds of millions of dollars.
Ah Drinker, I salute you. The world needs real critics and commentators like you not walking and talking jokes with 0 idea or understanding of audiences, storytelling and movies like say, Grace Randolph. Keep up the good work. Following you since 2017/18 and happy to see you stayed true to yourself and landed that big interview with Russel Crowe
Your 11+ minute video was far more entertaining than anything Disney has put out in many many years.
Andor was really good but otherwise yeah
@@richardziolkowski7246 andor was just alright at best
@@richardziolkowski7246true
@@richardziolkowski7246 Yes. But how many traditional star wars icons where actually in the show?
I am the 666th person to like your comment. I own your account's soul now.
The clip of Henry Cavill saying “fuck” will never get old. He delivers it so perfectly and it just encapsulates the feeling of being absolutely over it and not at all surprised
It was at the very beginning of the Witcher series, and he already had enough of the sh1t the writers did to the source material :D
At 5:58
@@slick7310 thx
I agree with every word. Ya sot! It’s really difficult to watch the slow demise of an iconic company. Disneyland was my childhood as were the animated masterpieces produced. As you point out Marvel started out with promise but it too is burdened my lack of imagination and just gluing together bits and pieces of comic books. And don’t get me started on Star Wars 😢
I gotta say, as someone who is eagerly awaiting the collapse of the house of mouse, I would actually hold a lot of respect for them if they managed to turn it all around. They’re probably not gonna, but still
Disney might have been the biggest childhood memory for many people, but it's good seeing them finally experience the consequences of their actions
They’re getting what they deserve
New clip dropped: ruclips.net/video/Yb6dZ1IFlKc/видео.html
The people in charge need to go. Recasting all of their classic princesses into black actresses just to please the Twitter mob is almost like a form of reverse-racism
This is why people should know who the *'r°tards'* are in the culturewar and which side is the true, morally superior NORM.
The South Park representation of Disney as a malevolent representation of Mickey Mouse is spot on satire.
Years ago we took our kids to Disney World, because that was what you did. Once my youngest was old enough to go on all the rides we asked if they wanted to go back. They said “no thanks, it wasn’t that fun the first time.” Instead they asked if we could go on a cruise (not a Disney one). For the price of one week at DW we were able to go on two 10-day cruises in both the eastern and western Caribbean. My wife and I grew up on Disney shows like the Mickey Mouse Club, etc. but our daughters and their friends have no such ties or loyalty to Disney, which doesn’t bode well for the brand especially with the trash they’ve been putting out lately.
My kids are adults now and absolutely cherish their memories of Disney World trips. We did 3. They aren't interested in going back because everything that made it great is now extra costs instead of part of the experience. All the little perks were what made it worth the money. The magic is gone.
My granddaughters would rather go to Bush Gardens or Kings Dominion instead of Disney World.
@@debanydoombringer1385 it's mostly parents who drag their kids to disney. Once kids discover anime it's over.
@@debanydoombringer1385 I agree, the magic is gone. I recently went to Disneyland and the experience was just...blah. Everything was super expensive and that just killed it for me.
@@Soldano999 The last thing most kids need is anime...there is some good anime, don't get me wrong, but a huge amount of it is exploitative and sends terrible messages to young people.
"I dont want them to fail"
Since they lobbied to raise copyright to almost TWO centuries just to save one bloody mouse, I wish to they fail in agony with every bit of my soul!
In the words of Tim Allen on Last Man Standing: “beer drinkers don’t want to know about world problems. That’s why they drink beer!”
Same goes cinemas: “movie goers don’t want to know about political stuff. that’s why they watch movies!” But they have gone down the stupid path for so long, they can’t remember how to go back to the wholesome storytelling that Walt started the company on. Injecting political crap has become their downfall and good riddance if they disappear before Mickey Mouse is no longer owned by Disney.
Disney's animated run from 1989- 1999 was absolute magic. Finishing strong with Tarzan. Interesting enough that run ran for 10 years, like the build up and crescendo of the MCU.
Yeah bit we also got Lilo and Stitch an underrated flick imo
Now why couldn't STAR WARS have a run like that under Disney?!!? Why do MY IP's have to suffer??!?! 🤬
it basically lasted a whole generation, fitting that.
w0w
and pixar 1995-2010 too finished with toy story 3
As a kid everything they made I loved. Now its like saying goodbye to an old friend who just isn’t the same person you knew anymore.
That statement hit hard with me in so many levels.
This is so bittersweet
Imagining discovering your beloved uncle is a creepy pervert, with child-porn on his computer and little girls imprisoned as sex slaves in his basement. And you never knew until now.
That's Disney today.
I too am an adult now.
Sucks but at least we have the old stuff to share with our children. Mine prefer the old stuff, including stuff made from before I was even born, over any of this new crap.
While I had great respect for Walt Disney and the organization he built, that organization is now a far cry from what Walt would want. Having said this, unfortunately, Disney will probably be around long after all of us are gone.
Your hearty laugh on Disney's biggest failure just made my day
Some "old" Disney movies hold extremely well even on this day, last year I rewatched Treasure Planet. The plot, the setting and the animation are mindblowing.
That's back when Disney still had a _soul_
Treasure Planet is definitely one of the best Disney have made.
I'd also like to mention Atlantis. I love that film
I know I'm in the minority, but I think the 80s were DIsney's best decade, creatively speaking. Live action and animation, they just made such memorable, original stuff. THe absolute anithesis of the bland, safe, franchise based approach today.
Atlantis: The Lost Empire , great movie too. I watched again yesterday.
100% - great animated movie with excellent themes (even beyond what’s offered in the Treasure Island novel)
“You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”
Disney now.
The most accurate truth
Said by a Warner Bros movie
was disney ever really heroic?
Well Disney is gone so it was handled by people that don't know its own origins.
Everyone is cheering Disney's demise. Imagine turning its own customers against them by pissing on family values.
Why do you say that?
6:07 "I generally operate on the idea of the entertainment companies should probably just stick to entertainment and not involve themselves in politics one way or the other. Because the moment you do, not only do you risk making enemies out of powerful people who can totally f*** up your day, but you also divide your audience in half."
No film studio in Hollywood is capable of having something that lucid and logical occur to them.
This is their thinking:
[1]"Let's saturate our films with one contemporary political narrative."
[2] Revenue plummets.
[3] "Let's keep doing the same thing the same way and expect different results."
Big corpos losing millions does put a smile on my face.
Yeah, but i dont want any genuine hard working employees to suffer because of it, regardless if the big corporation is good or bad
The issue is that they don't actually care about the money. It's the same old tear everything down and do as much damage as possible before the roof falls down then scatter to ruin something else leftist clap trap.
Companies don't really care. Those who print money out of nothing will print more and give it directly to companies like Disney to further their agenda.
Not gonna phase most of them tbh, since a lot of the big wigs holding the strings in these corpos are just working together and bailing each other out from any kind of moral consequence.
They made a 22 percent profit jump
The problem is once you get as big and powerful and wealthy as Disney you reach a point where you believe you are invincible and have no reason to change or improve . But if Rome could fall apart , so can Disney .
Disney needs to be reminded that they almost went bankrupt in the 80s. What saved them was making good movies that audiences wanted to see. Unfortunately the concept of making good products and pleasing audiences is too much for modern Hollywood.
And the British empire.
Foundations of Rome by Arcane Wonders is a fun little massive board game. Forsake movies from studios that hate you. Go tabletop. 🎲♟️
@@fattiger6957 Just sad what’s happening to entertainment nowadays
Disney definitely is getting its karma
At least Liam Neeson still puts out films where he is competant, strong, and resourceful. He really carved out his own unique niche in Hollywood. Same for Jason Statham. There are still strong male characters in cinema but it is steadily dwindling. Although within a studio like Disney its all but non-existant.
I love videos like this. It’s astonishing to me that corporation ms thinks they can just keep expanding, growing and earning more and more every year. There’s a term called plateauing, for some reason corporations have never heard of or ignore it. Consider it and embrace it.
Disney has ruined itself. The love that it had from so many people has turned to indifference at best and absolutely loathing at worst. They have spoiled the magic, and that truly is a sad thing that people really lament and can't forgive.
Its just a reflection of the sad moral and intellectual state of America.
"they have spoiled the magic". So true!
i feel bad for walt disney. this is definitely not what he dreamed for disney to become after his death
@@jangofett9083 The creatures running Disney now would have HATED that man.... indeed, they appear to have everyone and every idea that came along before them.
Murdering the past is what radical fanatics are compelled to do, be they ISIS, Communists or art critics.
@@jangofett9083 in some ways it possibly did become what walt disney wanted after his death for a time. its just every dream eventually has to come to an end
No one credits Avatar to Disney. Everyone credits that to James Cameron. Another note worthy distinction.
Especially since it aws in production way before Disney had actual plans to buy 20th Century Fox and that just happened to be part of it.
It was essentialy an accidental gain for Disney, not the one designed by them
It's nothing more than road bumps really, there is no indication that Disney is loosing much ground. There was a pandemic that has made the productions struggle to begin with. Secondly they had problems with hulu from the start, it just wasn't a good investment.
That's far from it failling as a company and brand, it's still one of the largest and most sucessfull on the planet.
That's because they are fetish films for Furries
Haha yeah. Cameron has a track record of making high grossing films on his own terms. No one for a second believes it was Disney rather than Cameron as the creative force behind this being a success.
@@gustaf3811 Please keep posting this same paragraph everywhere you go Botgustaf, it is not annoying at all
I'm two weeks late to the party, but I honestly think this analysis is one your best, Drinker. It doesn't match your very best (the one on why we need heroes), but if there is a second tier, this one is right there.
The question is whether the pressure from those who want to make money will be enough to hold back or push away the zealots. I'm kind of getting a Middle Earth feel here with Disney- unless the Ring is destroyed, the best that we can hope for is that the darkness is delayed long enough for people to at least have some semblance of normalcy. That is, if normalcy even exists anymore.
I don't know, but I'm not optimistic.
There are enough anime, Godzilla movies, and US based alternative and independent creators to NEVER have to give Hollywood money ever again.
I’m old enough to remember when Disney was not only the gold standard in animation, they were essentially the only game in town. Not only that, The Wonderful World of Disney came on broadcast tv every Sunday night and it was appointment TV for most American families. My how the mighty have fallen.
Disney suffocated other animation studios back then. I loved some of the stuff from dreamworks. When pixar was just rising Disney bought them. Disney is a leech.
@@Natta44 is it a sin to enjoy something from Disney according to you?
What are you high as if most American families sat down unison to watch a animated Disney show pass the crackpipe lad
Here in the UK, we never watched any Disney cartoons as children. It was all Hanna-Barbera and WB, and Irvin Allen back then, along with a lot of Jerry Anderson shows like Thunderbirds and Captain Scarlet.
And while they practically were monopolist they didn’t say ‘f it, people’ll eat any shit we spew’, they actually produced the top quality content and took great pride in their creations. It took a lot of time and effort though and can’t be sustainable in their currently established business model of amount of content over its quality
Michael Eisner said in the early 90’s that people would go to a theater to watch an hour of blank film as long as it had the Disney logo at the start. Now in the 2020’s that hour of blank film is probably better than the last five movies Disney has made.
(((Eisner)))
Eisner was probably the last good CEO Disney had.
At least Eisner was honest. He wanted to make good films because that meant money for the company. He understood people wanted to be entertained, not preached to.
I'm at least glad DreamWorks is still making great films. They seem to have learned from their competitors shortcomings and for the most part, have stayed the hell away from the poisoned waters of wokeness. Sure not every movie they produce is great, but when they're good they are golden.
@@NucleaRaptor Idk, he was pretty controversial. It is true that he saved the company from bankruptcy with the Disney Renaissance, but he's also the one who made Disney focus more on brands than artistic values, two things that Walt Disney was always able to keep balanced. He kept creating more divisions within the company to expand each IP Disney had made during the 90's like direct-to-video sequels, Broadway musicals, theme park ventures, resorts, Disney Channel content etc.
Iger isn't much different from Eisner tbh. The only difference is how he deals with competition. By buying it. Other than that, he essentially has the same policy as Eisner. Only instead of DTV sequels and Broadway musicals, he focuses on live-action remakes. Funny thing is, Walt Disney absolutely hated the idea of his works having sequels or remakes.
Either way, both Eisner and Iger are guilty of turning Disney into a brand.
Disney had a great thing going in the 90s, they had mega hits like the lion king which was a merchandising machine and got it's own broadway musical, yet they were smart enough to make the sequels direct to video with lower budgets, kids still loved them but it was something the adults could just put on for them at home and forget about, film critics aren't going to review them or pay attention to it and the integrity and long lasting appeal of the original movie has stayed in tact for 25+ years.
Contrast that to today with a mega hit like frozen, they pumped out a less than average theatrical sequel, and are planning a 3rd now which will probably make them a lot of money short term yeah but I really don't think it's going to have the long term timeless appeal that the lion king does
okay love the video, all good points but my goodness the mufasa clip where scar throws him off a clip with the audio clip "Go away now" was just down right diabolical🤣
Jeremy Renner jumping in front of that snowplow to save his nephew would have been the best Disney movie in years
I'm really happy that my childhood occurred during Disney's best years. But it is so sad to see them fall apart as an adult.
Like seeing a beloved grandparent slip into senility...
and that is exactly why the next generation under my influence won't even KNOW disney; they'll never set foot in a disney park on my dime or on my watch. Those days are OVER.
Walt Disney was a pedophile.
Disney: “WE CREATE LIFE…. And we destroy it.”
Ferngully was pretty bad though.
Man it's hard to imagine a time when Disney wasn't some big corrupt corporation hell when I watch a lot of old Disney's movies I think to myself man what a path, another example of ether die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
I love the way you ended it. "go away now" *pushes off cliff*
Scar throwing Mufasa off the cliff as Drinker said, "go away now" was great.
It was the perfect sendoff. Hahaha
James Bond said it best in Tomorrow never Dies
"You forgot the first rule of mass media, Elliot: give the people what they want."
Give the Majority of people what they want, not the Alphabet minority.
And now Bond is out there pushing covis 23 narratives and silently snuffing people critical of government and protecting the captain planet Dr evil level villains pushing poison, deception, and easy death
@@jasonzacharias2150 sometimes you live long enough to become a villain
And the majority does NOT WANT: CRT, IDENTITY PRONOUNS, BLM, OR "WOKE" . Disney has ruined "Splash Mountain" by restructuring the theme to appease a small minority to be '"politically correct" in their own minds. Stop with the bully- racism BS and get back to what Walt Disney envisioned.
Arnold said it first in The Running Man, lol.
I hope other companies will see how bad choices like not focusing on quality of your product can ruin anyone
Like netflix
Man, looking back at those scratchy-looking old cel-animated movies, you can feel the presence of a room full of artists hunched over their desks working on something they believe in. I look at animated films these days, and I no longer feel any connection to the people who made it. It all feels sterile, impersonal. I want to see those brief few frames where the artist didn't quite erase all their sketch lines, those flecks of dust that got caught between cels and blip onto the screen for a split second. Those tiny imperfections reflect the imperfect humans who made it, and when you don't have that it feels too artificial.
"An empire toppled by its enemies can rise again. But one which crumbles from within? That's dead....forever"- Helmut Zemo
Everything burns
R u referring to Disney or America?
Like rome idiots being idiots then the angry goths(us customers) rise up and tore them appart
@@thehorseman1806 both
As a wise man once said : With great wokeness comes great brokeness.
Plato?
haha
It was the fu- around-est of times
It was the find out-est of times.
Now it's a white supremacists saying
wait, did ya'll notice the masterclass editing going on here? i don't know who was putting the clips together, but dang, it looks more cohesive than the last season of doctor who
Hopefully Disney gets back to the magic, But when i see Projects like Arielle and Peter Pan i doubt about this seriously.
Well, hopefully Wish will be a nice return to the old days.
Walt bet everything he had, including his house, and worked his animators to exhaustion to get Snow White made. It was the most successful movie of all time upon release. Most people had never seen multi-plane animation and didn't even realize why it looked so good. The primary animators were all given offers by other studios but every one of them stayed at Disney working directly for Walt until death did them part. A man like Walt Disney comes along once every 100 years, so I don't expect Robert Iger to inspire that kind of loyalty, but how depressing would it be to work at Disney these days, and care about what you're working on, and hear that Iger is coming back again?
Walt Disney had a serious problem with a certain group, and now that group owns/runs Disney. But no, let's not talk about any of that.
@@c3bhm He didn't. He had Jewish employees. Frankly, regurgitating Nick Fuentes's bile just makes you look silly. There's a global conspiracy unraveling, but it's not a Jewish one.
@@c3bhm Most ppl dont care about that, just like coco chanel also was "that person" but the clothing brand is still the largest in the world. I personally dont care about walts beliefs , hes still a genius and every genius in history was controversial and devilish
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss. Literally .
@@c3bhm yeah but most people disliked that certain group during his time. you realy can't judge historic people behaviour by modern standarts
Hearing about the misfortunes of Disney is bringing great joy to my heart.
I’m a little torn myself. Grew up during the Disney renaissance. Everything they made was a masterpiece all the way until I was in college. But yeah, they either need to go through a massive cultural revolution (not the Chinese kind) or they need to go the way of Standard Oil.
@@Noplayster13 they chinese kind is the only way, need a lot of cleansing the west in general.
*a self perpetuating musical*
Like EA. You laugh at their pain.
Like music to my ears
I’m glad I grew up in the 80s. Walt Disney Pictures was something to get excited about. The Black Cauldron was the first WD animation I ever saw. Loved it. All those classics- Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, Bambi, Lady & the Tramp, Aladdin, The Little Mermaid…soon as you saw a picture from those films, you immediately knew it was Walt Disney. Now look at the self- styled “ Disney”. A slave to wokery, and making 3D animation that could have come from any studio. Doesn’t even look like Disney anymore.
Disney bit off more than it can chew by buying all of these massive IPs at their highest point and now not being able to manage, update and keep all of them up to the Disney standard of quality we all once knew and loved
Glad to hear you and Tatiana are doing well.
You ought to do a video on the people in upper management of Disney who are making these atrocious decisions and go into detail of their overriding philosophy.
“It’s dumb but it’s the world we live in unfortunately” this thought crosses my mind on a daily basis.
Sooooo true
That's a very bad mindset. It's defeatist. You must FIGHT AGAINST IT instead.
@@512TheWolf512 it’s not my mind set it’s just a sad but true passing thought when observing the modern world we live in.
I personally like to always move forwards in life and just live.
One thing this video illustrates perfectly is how much was lost to the world when Hollywood stopped making 2D animated features.
Films like Wolfwalkers (which totally shoud have gotten the Oscar instead of the mediocre Soul) and The Spine of the Night prove just how much was lost when the big studios went all into that generic 3D look. At least now films like The Last Wish are finally starting to bring some originality into that 3D landscape.
Generally I've been finding that 2D animations have way more soul than 3D. A personal favorite of mine that came out (relatively) recently is Klaus, a Christmas movie. The animation is GORGEOUS and blurs the line between 2D and 3D so well that it makes you forget that it's 2D.
@@nebulous9280 I liked _Klaus,_ but I'd still not characterize it as 2D. It's hand-drawn 3D, with a great deal of computer assistance. What we're missing are animated drawings, as opposed to models, be they CGI, hand-drawn, or stop-motion - something that doesn't _try_ and look realistic.
I don't know if it's as simple as the 2D vs 3D debate. There's been plenty of stinkers that were hand drawn, and heaps of great 3D productions over the years, so I'm not sure why some get more care than others. That said, I do miss the 2D animation style, and wish there were a few more of them. Hand drawn obviously lends itself towards a bit more care and effort on behalf of the creators, so their strike rate seems to be a bit higher.
Treasure planet kicks ass and I believe it's the last movie they made that has that classic look
There’s a quote from a book that I’ve read in high school and I think it perfectly matches what Disney should do:
“All that jewelry weighs it down. Can’t nobody fly with all that shit. Wanna fly, you got to give up the shit that weighs you down.”
- Toni Morrison
The problem started when Roy Disney Jr died. He had a lot of control over the company because of the family name. He died in 2009 and everything went downhill after that.
Disney used to touch our hearts but now they touch us INAPPROPRIATELY..
Didn't they always? I mean they had a porn scene in the Rescuers from the 70s
Who would even guess that openly shouting against a law that forbids teachers from talking to 1st graders about sex would be bad for their business. I wonder why so many parents got angry at disney when they said they were for pretty much grooming kids into sexual stuff... not. They're reaping what they've sown
@@Naadeneo Oh please. Not only was it different time where you could see a lot of nudity in art anyway, but that small image goes by so fast I never even knew it was there until recently, and I have the tape. The animators did a funny, that's all.
@kelp7060 oh its only a small porn pic in a kids film thats no big deal especially today in America since you teach your first graders about sex then, but your whinning at the wrong person, I don't care what you teach your kids. I can tell by the state your countrys in 😆
@@Naadeneo "pron scene" yeah, à 1/4 second flash image of à topless woman in a window. How shocking 😑 . It's maybe because I'm from Europe but really.. nothing to see there.
Ending this video with Scar pushing Mufasa off a cliff was fitting on multiple levels.
Mufasa: SCAR, brother, help me… (claws his hands) ARRRGH!
Scar: 11:19
How is a traitorous usurper murdering his own brother in front of his nephew and then attempting to steal his kingdom fitting on so many levels?
I loved Disneyland as a child many years ago. As an adult I worked for them at their creative center in Glendale. That completely turned me off Disney. I can get in for free, but will never put any money in Disney's pocket again.
"I dont want Disney to collapse into financial ruin" I do.
During one of my college courses, I got the opportunity to meet with a former animator of Pixar. She was responsible for some of the animated sequences in A Bug’s Life, TS2, Monsters Inc, and Finding Nemo (famously she animated Dory singing “Just keep swimming”). She worked on animation for some of Disney’s theme park attractions and currently she’s resigned to work on the new Star Wars hotel coming in 2024. When she was asked about Disney’s IP and empire for their target audience… she didn’t respond but stayed silent with a cold blank stare on her face for a second. In that brief moment… I could just practically tell how much Disney is financially failing, that her hard efforts to make some neat attractions almost come pointless under Disney’s abusive umbrella to just lazily cash in on their complete bankruptcy.
What course was it? "Advanced Pathological Lying and Wanking"?
@@papalaz4444244 For your information. It was an animation class. Maybe be a bit respectful troll.
@@papalaz4444244 no cap bro fr fr
What a story
@@chasehedges6775 Can you “enlighten” us with a better life story?
This is why I don’t panic when companies buy up so many companies. The one thing that kills every empire is they become too big to manage.
Example: Ancient Rome. Though that's not a company, it did partially collapse due to infighting from being too large.
‘Too big to fail’
Some say they're too big to fail. I say they fail BECAUSE they get too big.
The bigger they are, the harder they fall.
The problem with the buy up of multiple companies is when the company effectively locks out new businesses making themselves a despot of a specific good or when their collapse will literally tank the entire economy.
This is why the government should be willing to step in to stop or break up monopolies.
@@valutaatoaofunknownelement197 and tho it’s not a company look at the us in general
Just found ya and love yer work!
Love that pipe of what looks like human waste coming out, as he talks about Disney pumping out as many movies as humanly possible.
At first it was sad to watch them tear down everything that I liked as a kid, but in the end it’s liberating and hilarious to watch them crumble.
Amen! Political correctness is the mass destroyer.
Same gives me the warm and fuzzies watching bow before woke activists only to watch the walls crumble around them while they sit there confused on why.
Y’all are mentally and emotionally stunted
The thirty year-old women finally have something to get into Star Wars about-ask them about the themes of generational trauma and processing grief and delusions.
@@sXe94core stunted because we like to see people get their comeuppance from forcing garbage down people's throats and then using slurs against anyone that does not praise the show as ground breaking?
If so I am stunted as hell. Good day to ya!
So glad you posted the Cinderella dress transformation from the 1950 film. What a piece of animation that is. The magic star cascade was effectively drawn as a separate character from Cinderella, and the 24 or so individual cells were on display in the Wallace Collection last year. A truly staggering piece of work.
Fun fact, Walt Disney himself admittedly didn't care much for Cinderella when it was being worked on, because he just saw it as another take on Snow White which he already considered their best work and something that couldn't be topped. And even he was blown away when they showed him that bit of animation and said it was the most impressive work in animation he'd ever seen at the time.
@@bob1986 and it still is one of the best.
i fcukin love cinderella
Yeonmi Park is a real world Cinderella. Her transformation was spectacular. I feel happy when I see her thriving after what she went through.
Yeah, but who cares about any of that when you can toss everything from that past into the garbage in order to make profits in the here and now. And by that, I mean hypothetical and diminishing profits, which rely on and leech off of the inertia from a world that the current business model actively dismantled. The Lord Humongous corporate portfolio.
Bob Iger won’t be able to solve a thing. His great “genius” was just snapping up all the competition. He’s played that card, and his hand is now empty.
Most depressing thing since taking a walk down the high street in Glenrothes had me on the floor in stitches😂
Funny How Puss In Boots 2 already managed to make more money than all of Disney animated films released in the same year, that’s what happens when you focus more on making a good movie that everyone like instead of pushing “The Message.”
Using Scar throwing Mufasa as the "Go away now." I'll never actually separate the line from the movie in my head now, but I'm okay with that.
Critical Drinker should have played Scar in the "Live action" remake. He would have made it a lot more fun. And if he was in the role, maybe they would have kept "Be Prepared," the best song in the original movie.
Hahahahaha
Mufasa: “SCARR, BROTHERR, HELP ME!
Scar: “GOE AWAE NUOW”
Both: YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA