Thor: Love And Thunder - It's Hot Garbage
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- Thor Love And Thunder is a bit of a mess, blighted by a bad script, unfunny jokes and headache-inducing visuals. Join me as I do my best to sift through the garbage and review it.
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Disney wants us to symphatize with Wanda for losing her imaginary kids even after enslaving an entire town, Thor lost his actual family, and home world. He's the most tragic hero in the Avengers and they want us to laugh at him.
It’s ok to have humor but even ragnorak and endgame had more serious moments
Feminism foe you
The hypocrisy/irony is strong with Disney
also the asgardians are near extintion
@u know me yeah they like to imagine white alpha males don't exist
don't forget that thor went from being a straightforward and serious individual to someone who tells more jokes than deadpool...
Thor is a fucking clown now and anybody who tries to defend that isn't a real. This is not the Thor we should've gotten
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That's kind of been the MCU Tony Stark effect, sadly. Characters that didn't use to be excessive quipsters (Thor, Hulk, etc.) are turned into stand-up comedians, while the characters that actually *should* be doing the quipping like Hawkeye (who is boring as hell in the MCU) or Spider-Man lose one of the things that makes them unique as characters.
Deadpool himself should pop up in a future -Disney- MCU Marvel movie and just talk shit about the plot, the writing and some actors, and Disney itself, and then disappear. that would be surprising.
At least Deadpool's jokes are funny and they make sense
This man speaks nothing but the truth. Had a female character be stripped of her clothes just like Thor was. There would have been a world war 3 on Twitter by "feminist".
The hypocrisy was evident since Endgame with the "ass of America". It was ok because it was Captain America, I guess, but imagine if that joke had been used for a female character...
I tweeted this and I got attacked that Im "taking it too seriously"
Its the same if a girl flashes people. Men and others find it amazing when a woman flashes but if a dude flashes he will be thrown in jail and then tagged with the sex offender the rest of his life
No, don't put that in quotes. There's none of that no true Scotsman crap there.
T H I S!
Iron man knew the storm of bad shows were coming and he retired early for our sake
Ironman, what a hero you are
Want to like this comment but its just so.... nice.
I wish everyone else signed off. This is embarassing
I can imagine Stan Lee getting pissed about what the Disney MCU has done with this current ahh phase...
His contract ended he didn't sign off early
The whole ‘women can’t be vulnerable or weak or villains or struggle and men have to be torn down’ is beyond old already.
How more people don’t see this and deem it unacceptable is beyond me. This isn’t some complicated story structure methodology we’re talking about here, it’s surface level basics.
Jane is literally weak in this movie.. She has cancer.
@Giltspark so phenomenal cosmic power is vulnerability?
Wow, everything you said was completely wrong, I mean nothing made sense!
@Giltspark that doesn't change the fact that Jane Foster somehow being worthy of Mjonir more then Thor makes absolutely no sense.
@@cthulhucrews6602 what's your point? She gets to be a superhero and save the universe instead of *wither away in hospice
The fact they wasted christian bale is absolutely CRIMINAL
he has so little screen time...
They didn’t deserve him bro
Its sad because Bale did SUCH A GOOD JOB as gorr. Every scene with him was terrifying, and his backstory almost made me cry
screw you morons, they didnt waste him and screw you for not paying any attention to anything but the spectacle.
i thought the movie was hilarious. It was a comedy making fun of all thor’s and mcu movies, in my opinion. There were some boring parts too but for most part it kept me laughing at it
One of the most embarrassing things is that they wanted a strong and powerful woman at the front and they forgot all about Lady Sif
they don't want strong and powerful woman, because that imply she is a woman, they want a strong and powerful man, that has vagina and the pronoun of she, but not a woman.
This. When he received the message from Sif I thought maybe finally we get to have some real screen time for her, when before she only had like 2 lines in each movie.. but then they dropped her in a hospital and ignored her for the rest of the movie....
Lady Sif's only real screentime was in Agents of Shield S1E15 and S2E34.
Let's also not forget Korg apparently has two dads despite previously establishing in Ragnarok that he has a mom (who has a boyfriend (that Korg hates)).
Either the writers forgot continuity or Korg has a very complex family life.
Not really, just takes a bisexual dad remarrying after a divorce, but I totally get what you mean...
The writers just don't give a sh*t.
I noticed that too.
@@silvercandra4275 he explained it takes 2 dudes to give birth despite saying he had a mom
So it was a tri-marriage. Two husbands, one wife. Of course, sexually it makes way more sense the otherway. One man can impregnate two women, but two men...?
but you don't understand, it's only needed so that in the end taika waititi can say "his boyfriend Dwayne(The Rock)"
The fear of exposing “Strong independent women” to hardship is the very thing that prevents them from any meaningful character growth.
💯💯. Accurate
@its Time 🤡
That's okay, the simpletons they're targeting with their pandering don't need no character development. Muh representation and girl power and stuff.
The insinuation that women need to grow would throw out the "you are perfect as you are" masturbatory mantra the media asks modern women to get completely drunk on.
Oof! Well said buddy!
The best version of Thor was Infinity War, he was serious, focused and had a goal of avenging others and taking down
a serious threat in Thanos! Now .... Well hes been reduced to laughing stock!
And the joke mate? He actually told jokes still. Still he had humour. But it was deadpan, it was sarcastic, it was contextually appropriate. 'I bid you farewell and good luck morons' 'Notice you copied my beard?' And yet he was badass, he was a soldier of fortune, he was on a mission of revenge. Yet here he's a dopey, bumbling, stuttering, 30 IQ moron, who exhausts everyone around him (the Guardians multiple times share a look of exasperation at him, like when he goes on a tangent then smashes the temple they were supposed to protect or when he gets told off by the kids for being completely aloof and not helping, or when he falls into the New Asgard pillar and everyone looks at him in dismay). Christ this movie was an abomination.
the last good marvel movie^^
Amen.
Disgusting woke trash. Only sheeple keep on paying for Disney's leftist indoctrinating propaganda.
@@Fuchsfeuer This is what I always say. IW was THE PEAK of the MCU. It'll NEVER be better. Ever. Endgame was not BAD. But the fat Thor thing was lame.... they could've made him still broken and drinking his problems away and not made him a fat bumbling idiot and his character would've been better but nope, "fat big lebowski thor funny funny!", then the all girl Avenger scene, plus introducing Time Travel in to a story which TT as a plot device will 99% of the time fuck up a story.
Lady Sif was Thor’s last Asgardian friend and one of his longest friends as they grew up together. Despite this, the writers decided to play her death off as a joke. A joke that mind you, might and I repeat *might* ,have worked if it were just some random warrior and not her. I mean it’s almost like the writers just completely forgot what she meant to Thor.
She doesn't die in the film, but I agree that her injury was treated like an SNL sketch. It seems like Taika is fixated on the idea that there can be no sense of loss, urgency or real stakes since it's a "comic book story" and thus inherently colorful and silly. The few serious moments in the movie were almost immediately undercut with jokes.
and they put tony and natasha name in thors shitty tattoo
Even Jane's death couldn't happen without a joke. I felt almost nothing during that scene. I was just tired.
@@nexusshark Jane's death probably would have mattered more if anyone had actually cared about her, but I doubt anyone did.
@@RileyTaker I did care about Jane. Just not in this movie. This movie gave me no time to care about anything.
Man, Christian Bale's character was super heartbreaking. It was a real detachment from the rest of the movie, but I definitely think Bale was the highlight. I thought it was gonna be amazing after the hilarious Ragnarok.
Is that Christian Bell was amazing he was so into his role he was a great just a great character he made me sympathize with him he was the only person I cared about the entire movie I wanted him to win I wanted him to succeed so bad I wanted him to kill all the dogs and you know after what he did to Thor I kind of wanted to kill Thor too because my God That's not the story I know it it really is the gas movie Marvel's ever done you know why don't they have to make everything gay why is everyone have to be gay so Thor's getting now too enough I don't need my kids asking me about gay s*** all the f****** time and transgenders s*** and non-binary b******* all the f****** time I don't need this thinking that there's more than two gender s*** in my life I really don't Kristen Bell was so f****** good that the movie should have just been called go to God butcher they should have taken a f****** everybody out of the movie except for and it should have been in an hour of Christian Bill's story and then four or finding out that he's killing people then them meeting okay and then them fighting and the movie ending that's basically we should have happened and they should have just killed each other both died and that would be the end no more embarrassing Thor and at least he died killing the villain Christian Bill goes out on on top with some dignity cuz I can't so as we have marvel labeling us fans the die hard investors in their product as nerds in cells and trolls haters review bombers I step back and I see his DC is catering the fans the rock is catering to fans the catering us they're they're looking out for us they don't care what critics say they care about what the rating is for the audience that saw the movie and that's how it's supposed to be that's what it's all about I want the MCU to f****** die and I want DC to take its place because they deserve it because they give a f*** and they're actually trying to do the right thing marvel is trying to take characters and properties that we all loved and when we were younger and got introduced to and fall in love with and I'm trying to use them to push their own agendas their own idealistic b******* their own propaganda their own identity politics and they're trying to push that and they want to do it using these characters and these stories that we love and hack them the pieces make them jokes disrespect them and sell this disgusting horrible narrative you know and no no if it's not a Spider-Man movie or a guardians of the Galaxy I will not take my children to watch any more marvel movies only DC I don't need any more questions for my boys I don't need any more confusion from my voice and I don't need one of them to ask for boob job on his 14th birthday so f*** you Disney
The thing about Ragnarok was, the movie had actual competent writers with Taika's humor being a good support. The humor was well appreciated as it came off the heels of a depressing Thor movie. Furthermore, the humor made sense in most cases for example, the cutting off of Surtur's initial speech at the start of the movie made sense as the ropes binding thor turning made sense. It was within the realm of sense of what could happen. That was also followed by another joke of the executioner's ladies being scared off by, lava dog goo. It set up his character well as an egotistical person who was more occupied with impressing them any chance, which in result made him turning away from Hela at the end of the movie a small, satisfying character arc. The main thing however, is how the script gives the emotional and serious moments a chance to flourish and develop instead of fucking them over with stupid jokes (*cough* Shrek 3 *cough*). Even as a dumb 14 year old, this movie felt, off. It felt like a cheap and boring movie that exploited incredible amounts of work with character building, emotional moments from better, older films rather than a fun, goofy but amazing story.
Ragnarok was pretty garbage in of itself, it was just a movie that threw in as many cheap jokes as it could with no real gravity or sense of danger or adventure. What few scenes tried to be serious were awkward and rushed.
@@archibaldc.1833 You shut your whore mouth! :p Don't go turning our little corner of civilised commentary into a church of lies!
@@archibaldc.1833 Absolutely agree with this, i thought it was the turning point in the Marvel series. I can't take a movie seriously that doesn't take it self seriously. I liked the first Thor movie then decline was a steep downward curve
That naked Thor scene is such a blatant double standard that I wouldn’t watch the movie for that reason only. The level of hypocrisy there is just sickening.
Must be this "equality" thing I keep hearing about
Reminds me of that underwear scene in star trek into the darkness the writer actually had to apologise for.. Either these kinds of scenes are ok, or they are not. No dobble standard allowed.
I not long posted agreeing to a similar post. There is no place for nudity and objectification regardless of the gender in any Marvel movie where parents take their kids to see it. As soon as I saw this scene in the trailer and all the hypocritical women would be shouting "sexist" and "misogynistic" had it been a naked Natalie Portman tied up, simping over Hemsworth like he is a piece of meat in the comments, I cancelled my Disney+ subscription explained why. I told them that this isn't equality or feminism (not the proper one that actually wants equality) but just misandry. I then told them where they can go with their blatant double standards and they won't get another penny out of me for as long as I live.
The nudity is just unnecessary as is the movie itself. They like to humiliate and sexualize Hemsworth whenever they can. But women can’t be seen as feminine or sexy anymore. Although I’d rather not see Tessa or Natalie completely naked either.
So what. He’s the most beautiful human being alive.
Love how marvel is failing and people are actually finally noticing it
The MCU has now lost it's spark.
It was hit or miss the moment Iron Man 2 came out
@@somerandolad Yep
They've been failing since after endgame. They only had one solid and good film past then, the rest have been messes with contrived plots, lazy writing and just mainly used for political gain than actually telling a good story, and the ones that aren't that struggle with a bad story, plot holes and just plain horrible writing and decisions.
Like I'm glad it continued because we got the new Spiderman film which was a rare film these days, a movie made to entertain people with no politics or woke bs, and made for fans and not critics or twitter. It was a good movie basically. Now try and say the same for the other media they have made past endgame
Marvel dumbed down audience to be thrilled by mediocre movies that are carbon copies of each other but people were blown away by CGI buildup for Thanos.
Now once whole that thing is over, people finally realize they are modern day Transformer movies, with Disney woke agenda
The overuse of jokes was such a problem. Thor and co. never seem terribly concerned about the fate of the kidnapped children, because they're still just cracking jokes non stop. And if the characters don't take the plot or the stakes seriously, why should we?
Same man. Natalie portperson calls that a mission even and all of them continue to talk about their love life. There was no intensity throughout. Also, Thor made the kids immortal by the end.
The amount of jokes that didn't land was too much for me.
Too many jokes, too many classic song bits being thrown in to every scene, not enough seriousness, most awful dialogue. Wish the actors had the balls to just quit after seeing the script.
How was Natlie Portperson able to fight like a battle hardened warrior while it took others thousands of years to reach there?
Mjolnir has a magical UI/AI of sorts, although it's never really explained in detail. Basically, the hammer enables the worthy to use the power they're given immediately, since it's often a "moment of need" kind of thing. Cap clearly benefits from it as well, in Endgame.
@@Avelcaine cap is a super soldier with a good heart, Natalie portperson is just a scientist with a cancer. When cap hold the hammer we started crying, when Natalie portperson hold the hammer we were confused.
Hollywood Whamen powah.
Reasons
Oh I can explain that…it’s because she got a cooter instead of sausage
They keep making Thor act like a clown when my man has suffered more loss and misery than Wanda. We are supposed to take her misery seriously, but with Thor, its joke, joke, joke, joke, joke with him.
Lets compare shall we?
Thor has loss his mom, dad, his sister stabbed his eye, broke his magical hammer that he cherished for years, his brother Loki and his best friend (Heimdall) were killed in FRONT of him, lost his home, most of his people were killed by Thanos, was left for dead floating in space, almost died constructing Stormbreaker, and had to live with the terrible fact that he failed to stop Thanos and became a depressed drunk.
Wanda loss her brother, had to kill her robot boyfriend, enslaved a town and forced them to act out her fantasy because she couldn't handle grief like a normal person, proceeded to slaughter innocent people and Heroes so she can steal kids who did not belong to her in a different universe, and was willing to murder an innocent teenage girl to do it.
Wanda's grief is treated more seriously while Marvel makes Thor a bumbling clown to point and laugh at.
@don't be surprised Hey thanks man
It's been a joke since his third film. I don't understand why people liked Ragnarok. It wasn't a good movie.
there is scene if i remember correctlly, where baby Thor is used as human shield. LIke what an actual fuck?
@@Zathren for real lol. It really disgraced Thor as a character and shit on everything the movies have been building up to, and yet people enjoy it because "ha ha funny." It shows how blind and naive a lot of marvel movie fans are
Anytime Chris gets a chance to show his range and grow the character they yank it back with more pointless jokes and mockery.
Marvel has a terrible habit of taking good characters and turning them into cheap joke factories over time. Thor and Hulk seem to have gotten it the worst.
To be fair thor benefitted in ragnarok and it became really good but the first 2 were serious and were shit
Another fucktard comment from a pokemon fan..
@@crazyfriend50 the 1st 1 was great, 2nd movie was forgettable
@@crazyfriend50 The first one was not serious and was great. The second one was decent - except the villian was almost as bad as Steppenwolf.
DC has a habit of destroying beloved characters. Ever heard of bat woman
I love how you refer to Natalie as "Natalie Port person" to avoid conflicts with basically everyone haha
Lol. Once I caught on it made me laugh out loud while at the gym.
Should call her by her real name; Natalie Hershlag.
I don't really get it, is it just making fun of her name or did she come out as one of those they/them/oi vey types? either way, pretty funny
@@GAHAHAHH I mean "Bullying" is one context, and not the applicable one in this scenario. I can think of many reasons I would pronounce someone's name wrong intentionally that aren't bullying, you know, like comedy.
Besides, she's a public figure, it's not like she's gonna get offended by one guy's youtube video.
@@GAHAHAHH Yess boohoo your favorite celebrity has been name called,time to abandon ship.
I can somehow easily imagine Christian Bale as Joker , when i look at the posessed Gorr look. He legitimally looks scary and crazy.
I’d pay money to see Bale as the Joker. Probably one of the few guys who could convincingly play both sides of the Bat coin
That'd be ironic. Because he was the Batman, and now he'd be the Joker.
I'm glad you called out the scene where Thor gets his clothes blown off while the ladies eat grapes in the background. It was all over the trailers, and every time I saw it, I could only think about the gale-5 shitstorm of outrage it would be if the genders of the characters involved were reversed.
I miss the times when the opposite was true, we need that level of fan-service again!
@@Bolter024 same, those were the good simple times when I can call people retarded in League because they are, instead of now when I can only call people dumb.
Are you equally calling out the disparaging difference between how the female costumes are cut and styled vs the men costumes?
@@genericuser4162 Are you equally calling out the disparaging number of times we see the male heroes with their top off vs the women?
@@genericuser4162 lol the female characters that prep with an elliptical machine and MAYBE diet for their roles just to show a little leg or shoulders vs the males who eat chicken and rice daily to hit upper body and core for shirtless scenes? Hemsworth put in more exercise than natalie portman, tessa thompson, jaime alexander combined- and then some.
To prepare for his role as Gorr, Christian Bale actually travelled to different realms and killed several gods. His commitment to the role is second to none.
Very true… Many actors have said that it’s irresponsible to go as method as Bale does because of the great risk of death you can receive from intergalactic space deities.
@@Milanders it’s still not as bad as when he had his own parents killed in front of him to prepare for Batman.
@@cleveryoutubename4445 Or actually killing hookers to prepare for American Psycho.
Hilarious...
Bravo Chris...
1. How can Mjolnir repair itself?
2. How can Jane wield it?
3. Why is Christian Bale in this?
how did it give Jane powers? it's already established in the last movie that it only focused Thors innate powers. but hey, strong powerful woman!!! ffs
And why the FRICK is nobody talking about RUSSELL FREAKING CROWE
Jane became worthy in the second movie. When the building was falling she was going to sacrifice herself and shield Thor, and thats how she became worthy
With that logic, Black Widow, Iron-man and literally every person in the Avengers is worthy.
@@davidreitzer5471 Right! Odin mocked Thor for thinking that Mjölnir was *intrinsically* powerful, that he derived his strength from it. "Are you a God of Hammers?!"
100% spot on review. This movie was diabolical, I managed about 25 minutes before abandoning it with a real sense of regret and frustration. Taika, you’ve done more to kill off Thor than Thanos ever did.
It's sad that when the Drinker tells me he's going to spoil the plot I really don't care. I know that I'm going to be far more entertained by the Drinker's 15 min breakdown than I am by that 3 hour movie.
it's 2 hours
I feel you.
So true
I didn't plan on ever seeing the movie anyway.
It might have been a little better if it was actually 3 hours lol
I don’t care if the movie was good or bad I will *never* forgive the MCU for (ironically) butchering one of my favorite comic book villains Gorr
The tone of the comic book asked for a movie Disney/Marvel cannot allow themselves to do anymore. If they tried it is pure greed, nobody will be happy, nor the few comic book readers of the story, nor the MCU moviegoers that love light comedies.
@@ReinoldFZ what is the name of the comics ?
Just be glad they didn't cast a female to play Gorr.
waititi must have gone full on serious mode with gorr's movie...
I don't know that much about modern Marvel comics, I prefer the classics (I stopped reading after AvX). What was Gorr like in the comics and what did the movie change?
There's a continuity error with Korg in this movie. In Thor Ragnorak, Korg says the only people to show up to his rebellion were his mother and her boyfriend, but in Love and Thunder he says he has 2 dads. Almost as if they're going for that "agenda"
The man is a living rock monster, whose to say how sex and gender works on their world? Maybe a tribe gathers together and assembles a new baby from chunks of themselves so sex has no relevance, and they really can just pick their gender?
The fact that they cut the scene that bale did the "come to daddy" scream that bale said was the only reason why he did the film, is really damn criminal
I was surprised no one batted an eye over Thor being stripped of his clothes without his consent used as a joke
Society loves naked men. Only women need to cover up from head to toe
No one cares if a man is sexually assaulted sadly.
Imagine if that had been Portman. Twitter warriors would b setting shit on fire
@@dsilverleaf4668 *Portperson
It's OK he's a "toxic man" and no matter how much these raging feminists fight it is the embodiment of the man these women chase and will continue to chase. 🤷♂️🤣
Drinker: “I’m gonna spoil the plot.”
Me: “holy shit, there’s a plot?!”
There is a smidgen of relevance from scene to scene that seems to be called a plot
The plot was this: More screentime for Korg. The end.
@@stevearno9726 more korg? Where? I barely saw any korg. 🤌🏼
@@thisisartman he's sat on your sofa 3 hours after the party ended not getting the hint to fuck off out ya house.
Allegedly...
I could only get 1/3 of the way through this movie before I turned it off. Your review not only saved me from having to go back and endure the rest to get the full story, it was also ten times more entertaining. Thank you. :-)
As soon as the screaming goat joke got overblown, I decided that was enough of the movie for me.
Same here. I watched only 30 minutes of this shitty movie
How the hell did you get pass the first 10 minutes of this joke you call Thor
i hate hate hate how marvel made thor a laughing stock despite all he went through. avid wanda fan but is so unfair how we get to see wanda’s trauma and her evolve but for thor? nothing but shits and giggles. he’s a character with so much depth that they refuse to explore it’s so annoying. i hate how they made it seem like he just got over his trauma with no real development. this movie really didn’t do it for me.
I genuinely believe that the reason Gor had no funny lines and was a real threat is because Christian Bale refused to let Tika Wititi have his way with the character. He’s a serious actor who takes his craft very seriously.
He did joke and his voice was awful. Bale sucked in this movie.
@@jiminlong7096 that’s because this movie sucked. If it had picked a more serious tone Bale would have had something better to work with.
I mean he has cringe moments, but compared to the rest of the cast his performance is the best.
This movie contradicts itself by trying to be a buddy comedy while having a serious villain with an actual goal and an empathetic backstory.
@@domb.1522 Well yea..Bale is 1 of the best and I disagree. Comic Jane Thor is an absolute atrocity and her story is trash. Natalie on the other hand is amazing in any role she does.
@@jiminlong7096 True. While a lot of people found her stale and uninspired in this movie I was actually surprised with how well she did. Those moments where you are reminded she has cancer really hit hard, and portman played it well.
I just wish they would have shown more of her struggling with the fact that she’s dying and not try to make her a goofy, awkward, character that tries to hard.
They really missed a lot of opportunities in this movie, if i’m being honest.
Like:
They could have shown more of how even after hundreds, or thousands, of years, valkyrie is still torn up about how her sisters were massacred and odin did nothing about it. And there’s this side of her that harbors a lot of anger and pain. It would have been such a cool twist if gor actually convinced her to join him.
@@jiminlong7096 and in the final battle it could have been thor and jane vs gor and valkyrie.
I'm ok with some jokes in a Thor movie. I'm not ok with Thor BEING the joke of the movie. The last few appearances of Thor have made him a sad, bumbling, fat, loser, who the audience is meant to laugh at. I think movie Thor peaked in Infinity War, downhill from there.
The whole franchise peaked at Infinity War.
His grief was never taken seriously, unlike Wanda, whose Disney tried so hard (and succeeded) in making audience root for her enslaving people and mass murdering heroes.
Definitely agree. I even thought Ragnarok was a good movie and yeah, Thor was awesome in Infinity War. But then, Endgame happened and it all went downhill. Tho tbf, the same thing can be said about the MCU as a whole (with the exception of NWH)
@@justhair17 Endgame Thor should have been a stepping stone for him to shine in his last movie... but what the hell?
Tf are they doing?
I think Ragnarok had a good balance of serious and goofy Thor, in this he’s just an incompetent bumbling idiot who gets outsmarted and out-skilled by a woman who’s only just been deemed as worthy because… reasons
honestly what you said about the child's point of view is such a good point. Someone pointed out that the silly stuff in ragnarok could be forgiven if it was thought of as Thor retelling the story for children. Love and Thunder felt like a big family romp, but with more sex and violence. If they had dressed it down to be a kids movie it might've been stronger. Like, the part where the kids get stolen, there's a good bit where Thor calms them down and assures them he's going to save them, but then there's never any real fear that a marvel movie is going to harm children. People would still complain, but at least it might be a more cohesive movie.
Dude, Ragnarok was an actually good movie. Don't compare it to this obvious cash grab. There's far too many things wrong with this movie.
Only Hollywood can make high budget film look cheap
I remember as a kid coming across this book called Bored of the Rings. Basically it was a parody of Lord of the Rings, tearing down all these beloved characters and making fun of all the serious things Tolkien put into his work. I remember being really bothered by this because it just seemed so insulting to something that so many millions of people loved. Now nearly every single movie and TV show is like Bored of the Rings.
There are Parodies made out of love for the series (Think Space Balls or Austin Powers)
Parodies made with little care and because it’s popular (Think of the Movie Genre Parodies in the 2000s and 2010s like the Epic Movie)
And Parodies made out of spite like what you described.
It could also be the fact that 2000s as I remember was made in the year where there were no “Gen Z” Humor to really mock them so edgy content ran rampant.
The same people who cry about how minorities should be ok with jokes about them, are crying about jokes being made about fictional Lord of the rings. You sound dumb
@@Predator20357 Edgy humor needs to die
@@Predator20357 Spaceballs with made with permission from Lucasarts, whom even provided some of the CGI for the Ships. Spaceballs is a perfect example of Satire that's done in order to celebrate something they loved.
@@seyio1717 Edgy Humor is basically fart jokes but with blood
"It just feels cheap." Sums up perfectly what Hollywood has become.
It's like Dolly Parton... "honey, it takes a lotta money to look this cheap!"
...the major difference is that Dolly has class and charisma, Hollywood... de nada.
You really have to want this in a movie that costs several hundreds of millions of dollars to make
Well, Hollywood pays you a million dollars for a kiss and 10 cents for your soul.
Movies are dead. The only movies worth going to see are Sonic and John Wick. And The Raid if they ever stop fucking around and make the third one.
When they spend all their time and resources on representation instead of good writing and acting.
4:25 Why couldn't Wanda just go to Eternity to revive Billy and Tommy? Are you trying to tell me that the Darkhold didn't even mention that in passing?
The darkhold is a evil thing with its own will that tricks people into some evil shit by offering vaguely what they want. In basically every depiction of the book in any medium. Its not *trying* to help Wanda.
But broadly speaking, this is a common problem for all long running series/movies, where the need to up the stakes and introduce new problems and solutions, make previous look dumb and inconstant.
Wouldn't Thanos have done the same?
@@attackerangel2951 Odds are, he might not have known. He was focused on the Infinity Stones; there's no evidence that he possessed any knowledge of Eternity.
My biggest gripe is how Ragnarok established that Thor doesn't need his hammer to use his lightning and then Love and Thunder just throws that out the window. When they got captured in the shadow realm he shouldn't have had any trouble escaping but noooo he needs the axe before he can use his lightning. Also he confirmed he was still worthy so when he went to fight Gorr alone why didn't he take Zues's lightning bolt AND Mjonir?
This whole movie is Taika Waititi literally saying, "I'm so funny right mates? I'M SO FUNNY RIGHT?!!!" for two hours straight.
He said he's gonna "ruin star wars" too. Like it can't get any worse
His schtick has gotten old
Basically, yeah. But are you surprised? That's all the MCU films have been past the black panther and civil war
Directors like him are given too much leeway while talented directors for other films have the corporate leash.
I mean he did it well on Free Guy and Jojo Rabbit. That guy is just a weirdo in general even has a threesome with Tessa Thompson and Rita Ora.
Gorr in the comics was no joke.
He massacred countless pantheons with ease, tortured a god of torture till he broke, managed to enslave countless gods to make a bomb that would ripple throughout time and space to kill every God ever, held his own against Thor multiple times even when there were three of him and in the end Thor couldn’t beat him. It was only once he realised that he himself had become a god did his ‘child’, which he created out of grief and power, kill him, essentially committing suicide.
His origin is also way better. He and his people were in a barren wasteland of a planet and had to trek through it. Over time members of his tribe would die of dehydration and starvation, all the while the priest would say it is the will of the gods and they shall be rewarded. Eventually Gorrs wife and unborn baby are killed, leaving him to raise their child. Eventually they died as well and when the rest of the tribe told him that it was the Gods plan, did he flip out. He denounced the Gods, called everyone fools and was exiled from his people, left to die.
Near death, Gorr would encounter two wounded gods, one in gold and the other in darkness. The golden one asked for Gorrs help and Gorr went berserk, taking the dark Gods weapon and slaying the Golden God. Believing all gods were selfish, uncaring and cruel beings, unworthy to live let alone be worshipped.
From that point on he made his vow, “All Gods Must die.”
that's already a million times better than this movie
And we didn’t get this Gorr because...?
@@regiman222 Because the goal of every Marvel movie is to sling leftist propaganda, not tell impactful stories.
Wait, they didn't just copy this? Why?
@@theserpent8667 When I saw the trailer I figured they were just going to play this storyline out.... But why didn't they?..
She went to a city of Gods and never thought of curing her cancer
The concept of Lady Thor has always baffled me. Thor is not a secret identity, like Spider-Man or Superman. It's the name of one specific guy. A guy from an actual, real-world mythology. If Thor had a name like Thunderman for example, someone else could take his place. But you can't just take his actual name, and say you're him now. In the same way, Thor can't just become Jane Foster. He can become a doctor like her, but he can't actually take her name and identity.
The real Thor, not this Disney clown, is a regular dude from earth who finds Mjolnir and is granted the powers of Thor and is his alter ego.
Its been done for years in the comics
In the olden days we called it identity theft.
to Green Demon, to add to your point about the mythology of Thor, His HAMMER is the Symbol for Masculinity and Manhood.
THANK YOU!!!
Why in the hell would Gorr need thor to convince him to wish his daughter back to life when her death is his entire motivation? Is he supposed to be that dumb?
The writers don't know how to end a movie or write stories
He was possessed and brainwashed by the sword, no?
And the guy that killed him is her new dad
@@alexdesuys5712 that's the same bs excuse as Wanda being "possessed" by the darkhold in dr strange 2. Even if that's the case, it carries no weight because gorr himself loses agency.
Because he was gonna wish for all gods to die. So Thor convinces him that that’s not what he wants and that he just wants his daughter back
Natalie Portperson actually bulked up for the role of Jane. So most of her muscles were real. Maybe.
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I really can't summon the energy to care about her any more. Hollywood is no longer about good stories and interesting characters.
@@BumMcFluff same
I swear if someone starts whining about the fact that he said 'you can't be a king if your not a man' I'm going to be annoyed. Valkrye should technically be a queen
Let's take a moment to really appreciate the men Natalie Portman has destroyed.
1. Thor
2. Anakin
3. Leon the Professional
5. Bully Maguire
@@nazrulaqmar4891 Bully Maguire > Jane Foster
Don't you mean Natalie PortPerson?
The most tragic was Leon. He'd have grown old and died if it weren't for that meddling Portperson.
@@pauperslament3467 why do people hate her character again? I never watched the second Thor movie or this one that just came out
Logically, Thor should be the most tragic hero in the MCU considering all the suffering he's been through.
Yet they treat it as the funniest/lighthearted thing in the MCU.
While we have Wanda in the other corner, being evil for the most illogical reasons, but they treat it as if it should make us sympathise for her.
Why?
Disney.
Notice as well how people have been ABSOLUTELY brainwashed to think Wanda is 'the most sympathetic character who lost the most' in a Universe where
1) Nebula: was stolen as a child, forced to fight her 'sister' in combat training, systematically physically and mentally tortured and broken down over years and years to be an evil killer (having her eye ripped out, things like that) and cyborg, the living embodiment of Thanos' monstrous machinations against her will until finally she embraces them as the only life she can live, as well as:
2) Bucky, a man almost killed in action in a World War, essentially giving his life to serve his country, instead he loses an arm, spends near 70 years in the capture of his enemies, is continually put in the brain blender so that his mind, try as it might, is melted down and rebuilt into a Nazi super soldier machine who was the silent killer for their atrocities over the years, can experience and remember every one of these horrific experiences he's been made a flesh suit to enact, loses his entire family and every one he knew and loved, loses his entire life from 70 years before and, like Steve, is forced to acclimatise to the 21st century thanks to finally being broken out of mental captivity by Hydra, but is framed by Zemo and, on the basis of 1 grainy CCTV picture, marked for death (to be shot on sight) by the thankless governments of the world despite his previous service as a war hero, despite not being confirmed guilty of his supposed crimes, and is then hunted and attempted to be assassinated by T'Challa (who abuses his royal power to imprison Bucky as an intended War Criminal with no evidence), is then brainwashed by Zemo into killing more innocents against his will, and then finally is almost killed by Tony thanks to Hydra having used him to kill the former's parents, people he knew. Bucky finally escapes and is given the tiniest reprieve in Wakanda before now having to fight in a Universal war, which sees him finally killed in action all these years after World War 2. He's revived and what does he do with all this trauma, all this horror, all the endless nightmares and guilt and persecution and manipulation? He goes to therapy and first avenges his time as the Winter Soldier before then amending it by going to the people who Hydra used him to wrong during his time as a super soldier cyborg assassin for the death cult he once fought against.
And these pricks try to force the opinion that Wanda suffered the same and more, as Bucky, Nebula and Thor? Absurdity.
Because of THE NARRATIVE.
@@user-nv2wt4hi8t "Half the population gone in one snap. Women most affected." But these people can't tell you what a woman IS when you put them on the spot. Everything about diverse female space Jesus, in whatever form, screams overcompensation for deep-seated feelings of inferiority.
Fuck. I didn't realise how true this comment is until I red it.
Because men are losers and vaginapersons are the only human beings that matter.
You would think that a company that's utlra concerned with political correctness and not offending people would have stepped in and went "Hey, you know this character that treats cancer like a big joke and not like she's about to die? Don't you think that will piss people that lost a loved one to cancer off? Can you please rewrite Jane Foster's lines so that it sounds like she's taking her situation A LITTLE seriously?"
I think one of the stages is denial. She made it clear a few times in the film that she didn't want to talk or think about having cancer.
I’m so happy I finished watching the MCU after End Game.
Gor the God Butcher story line was supposed to be like a mystery horror story, Thor was supposed to be somewhat like a detective unraveling events from horrific crime scenes. Gor was supposed to be a villain that we could sympathize with, to an extent, because at the same time he is a ruthless cold blooded killer but he has valid reasons for going after the gods. They could have made this film for 1/100th of the budget and it would have been a million times better.
Exactly
The Batgod.
could you tell me what was the Thor comic with Gor called?
@@MrDeothor Gorr’s first appearance was in Thor: God of Thunder #2 (January 2013)
But then how do we add "The message"🤣
Fun fact: Chris Hemsworth does not like doing nude/topless scenes. He said he feels objectified and uncomfortable. And yet Marvel makes him do it every fucking film.
He never said that
@@ShadowSonic2 yes he did Hemsworth didn't want to do that scene but the director forced him
@@brandonshuley3417 source?
@@brandonshuley3417 rubbish (unless you provide the source and make me look a fool)
Yeah that's nonsense, the director of Thor 1 has talked about asking Chris if he minded going topless and Chris basically replied of course I'm going bloody topless.
You deserve an award for enduring this film. I felt like the film was mocking me for watching it. Like the director was making it as crap as possible to see how far he could push people before they realised a joke was being played on them.
The fact Christian Bale portrayed Gorr so awesome, made the bad jokes they forced on Hemsworth and his fellow actors so much more obvious. Where Bale created fantastic drama, as the antagonist, Thor/Odin and his posse had to play more like a caricature of their former selfs. I suppose they weren't happy how their roles turned out, either.
Gotta feel for Chris hemsworth, he really loves the character and doubt anyone could play him better but he still gets shafted like this time and time again playing this character.
Pretty sure he enjoys playing jokey thor though I'm sure he was getting bored of the character after the 2nd thor film, so I wouldn't feel sorry at all. But I do prefer the less goofy thor personally.
Disney did to him what Warner did to Henry and the entire cast of justice league
Disney doesn’t want actual strong male leads in their films. If you’re not a feminized/humiliated male, a woman, black, gay or trans, they could not care less about you
I was of the understanding that Hemsworth wanted to bring more comedy to the role, so I don't feel for him very much.
He's cashing the checks.
Thor is just another icon of sheer masculinity, resolve, strength and competence bent over and with the shaft of his hammer stuck in his arse by talentless activists.
MB Er ist Jude
@MB His real name is "Taika David *Cohen*", I don't even need to go as far as the Early Life section, but I appreciate the call out for the others who might have missed the 'reference' XD
thank you for that image, Jane Foster strapping Mjolnir to her groin handle up
@MB Lady Thor was a Marvel decision. Not his. Not to excuse him but blame should fall where it deserves to be heaped on. Seems the issue with this film is they had success in Ragnarok and decided to take what made it decent and crank it up to 100.
@@justanothertrash5062 Also look who's at the top of Marvel, Disney and WB lmao
"Trying to drive home after 2 bottles of Jack Daniels" 😂😂
You absolutely nailed this review, and the terrible job that Jokey Waititi did with this movie.
My mom died of cancer after 10 years of treatments when I was a kid, and that's one of the plotlines that really made me connect with Starlord. It drove a lot about his character. Using it as a cheap plot device in love and thunder is a bit insulting.
If anything, it was cheaper in the Guardians.
My Brother had cancer, my Dad had cancer and his Dad before him had cancer. I think this movie has activated the family gene and gave me stage 999 cancer.
Its actually a canon plot point in a Thor comic. Ecxept in the comic he loses his powers. Imagine if they did that lmfao
It wasn't done cheaply here at all, you buffoon
@@jennytailia5272 All hell would break loose 😂 I can’t wait to see people use the excuse that this story was in the comics so it’s good apparently
A wise old guy once said: know when to walk away, know when to run. That's precisely why i gave up on the MCU after "phase 3" and gave up on Starwars after... Disney.
Know when to hold 'em... Know when to fold 'em! Know when to walk away, know when to run... ♪♬
With Star Wars, I run wholeheartedly towards to the old EU. Submerging yourself into the KOTOR, Republic, Purge and Legacy comics is a refreshing experience from all the Filoni schlock.
@@yrooxrksvi7142 filoni is a overrated producer he doesn't respect George Lucas canon continuity and old eu writers he only cares about ashoka tano and he lacks of creativity
@@alsimmonshellspawn6021 Couldn't have said it better.
Me too except I watched moon knight and it’s amazing
F in the chat bois to remember the once great marvel
How is that possible that anyone can carry Thor's hammers? ...everyone is worthy now...?
Kind of weird how we’re expected to sympathise with characters like Wanda and Yelena but Thor lost almost everyone dear to him and was made into a joke. He also has to raise the daughter of the man that indirectly got the love of his life killed, handing over his axe to her while he uses a vandalised Mjolnir. The goddamn audacity for Marvel to write “Thor will return” at the end of the film too.
Thor got to live centuries in luxury. Yelena and Wanda had nothing.
@@ShadowSonic2 the point isn't towards wealth/poverty life upbringing.
it's dealing with the loss of family.
@@nwing07__ And Yelena and Wanda haven't suffered at all, according to you?
Thor had a far happier life for centuries before anything happened. They never had anything to be happy about
@@ShadowSonic2 What part of family loss do you not understand?
Thor's past life has nothing to do with it, he could have been an Asgardian energy billionaire conglomerate if it so pleases you.
The post is making a sympathy comparison between Wanda + Yelena and Thor. He's referring to loved ones they have lost. How they are DEALING with it.
A little thing called character development for Thor which is something that Taika Waititi has completely bastardized.
Are you getting it?
@@nwing07__ Thor's past life is why it's treated differently, he lived a luxurious life beforehand while Wanda and Yelena didn't. Plus, their pain started at childhood while Thor was already an adult when his losses started so he was better suited to accepting loss.
People are trying to say Wanda and Yelena deserve no sympathy at all and only Thor does.
I miss the old Thor (including IW). I really don’t mind when people say he’s boring in the first movie. People have their own taste of Thor’s character. The movie knows when to get serious and comedic like Odin banishing arrogant Thor, etc. It feels weird when they retconned warriors 3 as a bunch of fodders in Ragnarok. I would’ve told 14 yo me in the past that I shouldn’t care about them
Thor LAT > The Dark Knight
@@muratkocoglu8484 Hope that is sarcasm
I really don’t understand all the hate Thor TDW gets. When it came out I wasn’t crazy about but I rewatched it years later with my dad and we both really liked it. Thor was badass, the villain Malekith was dark and menacing and not cracking jokes every two minutes. I liked when Thor was taken more seriously and not treated as an incompetent buffoon like he is now.
@@Thepizzaman456 I think dark world was one of the better marvel movies, it also brought a cosmic scope to the MCU that was needed for the future.
They had to change it up because he's a strong male character who will overshadow the MsheU narrative.
Gorr in the comics is a top tier villain. The movie one.... Not even half of that, a supreme waste opportunity to bring one of Thor's best villains to the big screen, and even having Christian Bale to do so.
My problem with this film is that it has interesting concepts, such as questioning gods we worship, Thor still battling with himself and clearly still grieving the loss of everyone he ever cared about, heck I would’ve loved to see Jane have an arc about facing her mortality.
But nope the movie wants to make jokes about everything and everyone, and so how can the film expect us to care about what happens to these characters when the movie itself doesn’t take itself seriously.
To be fair, the Greek gods acting like sophomoric pricks who like messing with people is pretty accurate to how they were in Greek Mythology
But Zeus being one shotted even by Thor is still pretty absurd..
@@reallyhimongod well, wasn’t technically one shotted he’s still alive
@@RedXhopster ur telling me he cant catch his own lighting bolt
@@kuntumanurag4328 lol, probably why it didn't kill him. Coz it's his own weapon.
@@reallyhimongod
Because Russell Crowe gets a one hit in some of his movies like Noah, Les Miserables, Man of Steel, Gladiator, and then Thor: Love and Thunder.
That explains why he falls like crap in that movie.
Lost both parents, his brother, his best friend, the warriors three, his home planet, the majority of his people, and was turned into a walking fat joke at the supposed pinnacle of the franchise.
Do we get a payoff, where he finally gets to shine and develop further as a character? Hell no!
Excellent insight! Gave me an idea for a comment.
I mean he kinda saves the day here, but he hasn't really developed any further as a character no. He's just a joker making ex-girlfriend jokes.
you forgot about love story? XD This was his development
@@FireJach
That’s not development
@@GigaChadh976 He learns to move on and begin a new life as the adoptive dad to Love. Pay attention
I feel like a story where Thor is sick of battle and conflict would be interesting, where he realizes battle and conflict are necessary and he is the best one suited to it.
Maybe not a movie?
Maybe it's a pamphlet.
It's too bad modern film law prevents women from being anything less than perfectly competent... a human civilian being granted the power of Thor through what is essentially a technicality has GREAT comedic potential.
Thor leaving with the Guardians in Endgame made us so excited for future movies and the future of the MCU as a whole… Him abandoning the Guardians within the first few minutes of the movie just shows that, like Star Wars, Disney Marvel has no idea where they’re going with Phase 4… I don’t even know what they’re building up to…
Yeah like why go to the trouble of bringing Thor and the Guardians together only to have them split up in 5 minutes.
It's building up to a multi-versal time traveling war that totally won't be unsatisfying or confusing!
@@bromododragon2252 Oh it will be retarded if that is the case. CoD Zombies went that route and was absolutelty confusing and goofy. What started as a simple Nazi experiment gone wrong to a multi-dimesional war of space aliens and Gods, it was clear the story jumped the shark.
They're building up to Secret Wars I reckon but shit, we won't see that for like a good 3-4 years
@@thejaded shouldn't Secret Wars be the final story in the MCU before a major reboot?
The worst tragedy of Marvel movies is that they have an excellent Thor in Chris Hemsworth and they keep mucking it up. Hell, at this point he should be playing the Dragonborn in a [well written] Skyrim movie/series. But noooo, we have to waste decent acting talent on stupid, stupid writers.
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The worst part is how fantastic he can be (Infinity War, even in this movie he has the odd moment 'Let go of my things' *as he lifts Gorr with one arm and throws him) but he himself chooses to side with Taika and 'keep reinventing the character' 'we wanted to do something different every time' 'Taika's like a big kid' etc. He's as much to blame for Thor now being a retard and it's such a shame because he is phenomenal when he's actually dialed in but he wants to do what Taika 'I'll ruin your mythos in a minute baby' Waititi wants to do 'with the imagination of a 7 year old' over something that suits and benefits the character.
Wow....that's the best point I've heard about the Thor movies - Chris Hemsworth IS an amazing Thor - and they ARE mucking it up over and over. He's like a freakin' work of art. They could actually use him just to get women (and probably gay guys) into these movies instead of loading them up with baloney like Natalie Portperson & "King" Valkeryie. Hemsworth deserves BETTER. He's probably the only male actor I can even name off the top of my head these days & certainly one of the few really attractive ones.
I feel the same about Henry Cavill and Superman. WB wasting him too. Smmh
Hemsworth is a better actor than he’s given credit for.
I will say that Thor asked Mjolnir to always take care of Jane and make sure she’s okay so it insinuates it could tell she was sick and did what he told it to. Also, pretty sure they make Valkyrie king as a whole woke “women can be powerful” thing. Not really a fan of the director or his work.
If they truly wanted a funny Thor film, they should have based it on Thor's adventures with the Guardians of the Galaxy instead of abandoning them in the first 15 minutes. I might be a bit biased because I absolutely adore the Guardians, but I really feel like this movie should have been about Thor and the Guardians, and Gorr's fantastic arc should have been saved for another serious Thor movie (ideally not directed by Taika Waititi). Such wasted potential, in more ways than one.
Well, there were ppl complaining that Thor: Ragnarok was Hulk 2. So they cut out the Guardians early on so that the Thor movie can actually be a Thor movie. Whether it worked is another question...
@@pigifi Yeah, I get that. But ironically, Thor felt almost like a side character in this movie.
Maybe calling it "Thor and The Guardians" could of worked for a third movie for GoTG and spinoff for Thor.
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THIS, ALL OF THIS
The script is so bad that the actors look genuinely embarrassed. The farewell scene between Thor and the Guardians is a perfect example.
They couldn’t wait to get off the screen.
Chris Pratt definitely showed it. My immediate take away in every scene he was in just screamed "ok scene. Where's my paycheck?"
@@nate5371 “Stop holding me up… I gotta get over to Illumination to do my terrible Super Mario performance!”
I thought I was autistic and didn't understand social interaction...
Yes, Quill was acting uncomfortable and embarrassed....because Thor was making the goodbye scene awkward.
@@scottmoreland7696 I made that post 5 months ago lmfao. That was before the movie came out
I wonder how long it took Thor to learn how to use that hammer? Jane seems to have picked it up right away.
Wouldn't it be funny if she were WORTHY to lift Mjölnir, but simply not STRONG enough to do it?
ACTUALLY, here in Poland, we used to have a law that made a king of the person officially ruling, regardless of their sex. There was one case in the XIX century, we had a female king. King Jadwiga.
An exception that proves the rule
@@GigaChadh976lol exactly
Disney has locked themselves into having to produce so much Marvel content. They just put out more episodes of content rather than films. These episodes are more like a theme park ride than a movie experience. Martin Scorsese was right after all.
It was like this from the beginning. You guys were juts blinded by effects
@@ErgoDog lol no it wasn't. You just weren't born then to remember
The man was right from the beginning, but people refused to take in his words.
Yeah, quality dipped significantly after the infinity saga. Even no way home had a LOT of rewrites said by tom holland i think, vfx artists are significantly stressed out by the output and consequent workload asked of them by disney. They need to really streamline their content(content shouldnt be longer than they need to be), all the disney plus shows have been chore to watch through, very emotionally taxing, it needs a big revamp, they need more competent writing or if they have competent writers, give them more time, plan waaay ahead, 6 years ahead. Disney is on a downward spiral, a snowball of decreasing revenue, the higher ups are surely stressed out.
Who is even gonna watch she hulk and echo? Sickofans will pay to see charlie cox and vincent d'onofrio. Everything is just jokes that dont land STOOOOP. Had a huge tangent there, i'm just very disappointed, disney needs to keep their grubby hands off marvel and keep the people they hire in check, can't have a lead actor who replaced an actual voice actors character he played for years call people in the internet idiots(lightyear).
I am legit over Marvel movies. It's like that's all that is coming out.
Disney really said “let’s make thor a laughable, corny character, and keep him unhappy for a new avenger”
Because female characters (and anyone who isn't a white, straight, cis man) are the only ones that matter to Disney.
Imagine nearly 20 years for this character and they still saying we don't know what to do with this guy, so let's make him the funny character now
I give the movie a 7/10. It could’ve been more serious and wayyyyyy better with it’s build up. But in my opinion his character wasn’t tarnished at all. I never really felt the sense the comedy ruined his character as a whole, but ruined moments that should’ve been serious. Overall the film feels like a Phase 1 Marvel film, and is a back to basic superhero film. Not a bad film, but no the MCU’s highlight either
If you enjoyed this you should check out my REVIEW for Thor love and thunder
Gorr: You've lost, lady Thor.
Jane Foster: The name is Mighty Thor!
Me: The name is Jane Foster.
I rarely watch Marvel movies on theaters but I watched this only because of Christian Bale and what a tragedy!
Gorr was the only standout for me as something of value here (beyond Jane’s ticking clock). He was compelling, threatening, and terrifying (he actually made a kid cry in my theatre), but the problem is that he’s in a different movie from everyone else. In a serious film, he would’ve been an iconic antagonist but now he will likely be forgotten. A pity this is the route they took.
I watched a video that went over the God-Butcher story arc, and given what the Drinker explained of this movie...ya, Gorr was WASTED here.
In the comics, he's not just crying over a dead child. He watched his people squander themselves in devotion to gods who never answered their prayers. He watched his son and wife die, all the while being told "just pray harder." He was thrown out of his own tribe for daring to question his people's unwavering faith as they starved. And then, when he actually got to MEET one of his people's gods, all he saw was a pathetic, mewling creature begging for help (the god had been grievously wounded in a fight with another deity.)
Gorr doesn't simply kill gods. He LOATHES them, with a hatred so fervent it'd make the most hardcore religious zealot jealous. And when Thor gets on Gorr's trail and goes to find other gods, all he discovers is butchered corpses. Not killed; BUTCHERED. Nailed to trees, eviscerated, torn apart...Gorr exacted an undying vengeance against the very concept of divinity, and you could FEEL his wrath in every scene depicting his handiwork.
Giving Taika Wahtiti a villain of that caliber was a mistake. Actually, giving him another Thor movie appears to have been kind of a mistake.
@@jmhaugen4757 Well written mate! I'm almost keen to check Bale's portrayal of Gorr based on your explanation of the character alone.
Dang, a scary villain that made a kid cry????
Definitely excited to see this guy do his thing!
Good. That kid in your theater is dumb af for thinking this was going to be a good movie.
@@silashurd3597 he was like 4 or 5 so don’t be too excited. Still, definitely the part I most enjoyed. Wished he was more dominant like Hella though
Thanks so much for pointing out the hypocrisy of making sexually objectifying a man being okay while a great crime when done to a woman. It's actually the centerpiece of their advertising campaign.
I'd like to propose the Critical Drinker Axiom of Entertainment:
If a woman can do anything a man can do
then anything you can do to a man can be done to a woman.
I am in complete agreement on this. This one scene alone, and its blatant hypocrisy angered me so much that I wouldn't watch this crap if Elon Musk handed me a blank cheque to fill out. The fact that they have turned Thor into some himbo piece of meat joke is disrespectful to the character and they wouldn't dare treat their female superheroes in such a way.
I had to explain to my kids why I was cancelling Disney+ and why I am now done with all Disney content. They will never see another penny of my hard earned as long as I live now.
I also notice how all modern media is now also preaching body positivity and to not be "fat phobic" but that only seems to apply to women too. What men are being told by this scene is that they need to spend hours in the gym every day to get a ripped physique, and be one of the 5% very well endowed, something men have no control over, like their height. Essentially the same lie told by the adult industry which is shown to have a damaging effect on young men as well as women. Given the suicide rate is much higher among men, I find this rather irresponsible.
I miss the old days when feminism meant wanting equal rights for women. I was on board with that. When Playgirl came out, feminists were saying "if men can objectify and look at naked women, then we should be able to objectify and look at naked men". That is completely fair and what I regard as equality. This, whatever this crap is, it is not equality, it is double standards plain and simple. The feminists these days are saying "it is sexist and misogynistic to objectify women, but it is okay for us to objectify men". They simply want to replace misogyny with misandry. Neither of which are good things to have in society.
On top of all that, this scene and where they are going on about orgies, is absolutely not appropriate for kids. If my kids were 8 years old I wouldn't take them to see this any more than I would have, had that had been Natalie Portman or Tess Thompson tied butt naked and objectified in such a way. They shouldn't be objectifying anyone in these movies, regardless of their gender.
And what do you even lose by extending the same protections to men that you insist that women need? Why is it so wrong for YOU to be forced into the bland world where you aren't allowed to objectify people that YOU are forcing others into?
@@disgruntledparent Indeed, it's the same as modern tactics to supposedly combat racism. Instead of creating equality, they create inequality in the opposite direction and they claim that it's fair. Certainly one wouldn't tell their children that if one child hits them to hit them back to even things out, but in this case, it's their grandchildren or even great grandchildren hitting each other for what was done many years ago.
@@battlesheep2552 TRIGGERED FEMINIST DETECTED
Disgusting woke trash. Only sheeple keep on paying for Disney's leftist indoctrinating propaganda.
In Ragnarok, there was a unique sense of humor that balanced out well with the big drama. And while Ragnarok can actually be quite hilarious, Love and Thunder is absolutely *obnoxious.* It's rare a chuckle would come out of me, but nearly every single joke it tries to do all came across as annoying, weird, awkward, out of place, inappropriate, dumb and extremely juvenile.
I actually felt much the same about Taika Waititi in Ragnarok. The script could have positively transitioned the Thor franchise from the angsty seriousness of Dark World to a Ragnarok story that managed to be angsty AND funny, BUT Waititi seems to be oblivious to when an emotional scene can be successfully lightened up by humor & when humor grossly intrudes on the emotional moment. So after Ragnarok, I had zero interest in going to see Love & Thunder - and sure enough, the same poor judgment he showed on Ragnarok but now on steroids. Poor Thor. And poor Chris Hemsworth - he deserved so much better. I doubt there's any saving the franchise now.
MCU teaches us an important lesson here. *Sustaining* success is more important than just achieving it.
Just like Star Wars
@SinAA Don’t care much for mando myself, so both brands are in the same boat as I see it.
More important, and much harder too.
@SinAA basically just spiderman
@SinAA What do you have after mando? Yeah... Exactly.
Poor Chris Hemsworth he is definitely trying his best and giving it his all and gives a excellent performance as usual he does the best with this mediocre script.
What are you talking about? Marvel gave him the freedom to take Thor anywhere and he CHOSE this version of Thor. He thought this was a good idea because everyone kept telling him he's a comic genius when in fact he's merely good with comedic timing. He's as much to blame as Take2 Twatiti. And yes, this is Feige's fault too. We can't credit Feige for the good stuff and just pretend he didn't produce the bad stuff.
He's the one who loves this bs lol and want to continue with the comedy over a serious Thor lol go research
All those steroids just to be in a continuous spiral of mediocrity.
We don't use scripts anymore in Holly wood the way it works is actors just do their things
@@EyePatchGuy88 and millions of dollars, which is the main thing
Wasn’t there a whole arc about Thor where Odin taught him about his power being the god of thunder and not the god of hammers and that’s how he had that power. So it’s something from him and not the hammer? So how tf does Natalie Portman have thunder powers? Aside from the ridiculousness that she gets to wield his hammer in the first place.
Sad gorr the god butcher was a badass and sadistic character even managed to break Thor
I love how the concept of 'worth' gets bandied around by proud, egocentric characters who haven't earned a thing. I love how a 'king' doesn't have a shred of responsibility but still think she deserved it. I love how a stage 4 cancer patient doesn't suffer any of the symptoms of her treatment. I love how nothing is taken seriously in this film. So much to love.
And, I love the dripping sarcasm of this comment.
Remember, this “king” sold countless slaves to their deaths to get drinking money for millennia because she couldn’t handle a humiliation of losing against Hela.
And yet she’s more worthy of the throne than Thor, whose biggest sin was just getting fat.
She's king enough to buy herself some lesbian formalwear and pose in meetings like she's in a fashion shoot or a perfume advert. She's just not king enough to stick around and shoulder her responsibilities should they ever turn out to be dull or difficult. Truly, the gracious and wise leader Asgard deserves.
"I'm only worthy of the hammer because you taught me to save people, Jane." That was rich when both Thors watched all the children of Asgard get captured and decided they'd rather stand about making small talk than actually rescue them.
BUT IT'S FUNNY BECAUSE THE GOATS ARE SCREAMING. ISN'T IT FUNNY? BECAUSE THEY'RE GOATS. AND THEY'RE SCREAMING. LET'S DO THAT JOKE TWENTY MORE TIMES IN CASE YOU DIDN'T LAUGH THE FIRST TIME.
@@lucyhardman2267 I really miss Jane Foster the EMT. Making her a scientist was a mistake, because it takes a core part of what made the character work and give the relationship with Thor weight.
I love how I can smell the coming downfall of that hateful director Tiko whatever, he's going down for this.
I’m kinda glad Tessa Thompson’s star is starting to fade. Hollywood tried too hard in shoving her down everyone’s throats as the token (yeah I said it) stoic, strong, no nonsense, ambiguously brown, female lead/sidekick. Frankly, I believe they tried to tie her to Hemsworth like they’re buddies in real life, and it didn’t work. Hopefully, she can get some lessons and be a better actor.
how is it being shoved down your throat if you don’t have to watch anything she’s in ❄️
" Hopefully, she can get some lessons and be a better actor. " Nah I think that pegasus has already flown the coop.
She is just an one note wonder. She reminds of Elisa Dushku (Faith from Buffy The Vampire Slayer). No emotion in the face. The girl that played Monica Rambeau was way better, despite the non sense of Wanda's ending.
I don't. Hope she goes back to the hole of ostracism that she shouldn't have never left. A cardboard cutout has more emotional range than her.
Not gonna happen
When this movie finished, my friend turned to me and said, "Well, the first half was pretty shit, but the second half was also pretty shit."
So Taika gave us 2 Mary Sues, while at the same time he ruined the original really strong female character, lady Sif, and act as if strong females were invented by modern Marvel. Tolkien was right. Evil can only corrupt.
Bale's performance was excellent. Anytime he was on screen I thought, "Why isn't he in more of this film?" Even the writing for his character was the best in the movie.
I agree - totally loved how Bale performed and was featured. My only grievance was not showing me murder more gods. All we saw were a few shots of the aftermath. I would've loved to see Gorr slay Falligar the Behemoth.
@@dittie83 Gorr never really overpowered Thor and the others at all except for that one instance when he ensnared them in the tendrils. Kinda sucked he lowkey lost pretty much every fight he was in with Thor and others.
@@GloomEater he smacked up Thor at the end and would’ve killed him if Jane didn’t come in.
@@GloomEater he needed them alive so he could get the stormbreaker. he could have strangled all of them if he wanted to, or just simply stab them with his god-killing sword would do the job quick.
Except for the massive logical loophole that his entire motivation is based on how gods are selfish and will absolutely never help when needed. And then he bases his whole plan on kidnapping those kids and waiting for Thor to come and rescue them, i.e. not be selfish and help when needed.
I'm so shocked. What the hell happened to the Thor from the first movie? Intelligent, wise, a bit socially awkward around humans, but an actual functioning male hero.
Yeah tbh I miss Shakespearean Thor from the first movie.
His social awkwardness around other people and not really fitting in with the humans at the time because he was raised differently, him not reeling in the grief at first that he was basically kicked out of his home.
Him being lost and confused with the world, it was very interesting. His good heart and subtle good deeds were really nice and added a lot to the character.
I know a lot of people don't like the first two Thor films, but I thought those were excellent enough in adding ground and weight to the characters and the world around them.
Well since everyone loved ragnarok and all the jokes and funnies in there what did you expect Disney to do go back to serious Thor. I for one hated ragnarok he lost so much in that film. Not to mention his mother in the previous and then now his father as well as his home planet, as well as his dear friends, and all he does is joke about things. Ragnarok sucked for Thor’s character. He barely grieved for any of his losses in that movie
I didn’t think people enjoyed the first movie 💀💀💀
lmao. Whats with the "male" hero? Like, you went out of your way to say "male" when you could have just said, "an actual fucking hero"
@@jasonpypsaeris4643 Eh, Ragnarok was alright. I see it more as the "getting back stronger" trope, fitting for the "hero" Thor. He finally broke down in Infinity War and Endgame, finally showing the "human" Thor and thank God they did that
My wife summed this movie up really well with a simple sentence. "It tries too hard"
The rhythm that goes into saying cgi natalie port person throughout the video is unmatched 😂
I had an okay time with the movie when viewing it as a Thor parody. It doesn't work as a serious canon Marvel movie with all of its plot holes. The most difficult thing to forgive for me at least was the absolute bipolar nature of the movie jumping from cancer and death of a child to slapstick, male nudity and yelling space goats.
"Serious cannon marvel film." Okay, re-read that.......
Now come back with a real reply. Other than that, I can understand why people didn't like the almost ADHD cuts. It was made for a certain brand of people, and will probably go down as a cult hit more than anything
Male nudity? So male nudity is ok in a pg13 film but if it was female nudity then- ya know what? Never mind
I think Tighty-Whitey Tee is the worst thing to ever happen to Thor, and I hope he never gets to direct another MCU movie >:(
@@marlom7882 Bro, have you seen the movie? I promise you that all you see is ass. I bet you have shown more ass in a WalMart bathroom on accident to a kid more than this movie had in it.
Didn’t ask
Gor was a killer villain that was wasted on this colorful shart of a movie 🎉☠