I had great fun and ideas with IC1. After watching this and some feedback I went onto WAP and saw that the upgrade price to IC2 was VERY generous... No brainer really, CLICK and it's mine!
Recently purchased, still learning, but this thing is awesome! Well worth the money, and super fun even if you're only playing around with it. Only request is: One simple sound bank included as default. Even just a low quality piano as a reference for what midi might (potentially) sound like when dropped on something else. Just a thought, but I might be missing something.
As Instacomposer doesn't really work with Ableton (Ableton's fault for not having multi routing) - could the VST be updated to include some onboard sounds? That way Ableton users could use all the IC features to build up a 6 track mix (within the plugin itself rather than routing MIDI to DAW channels), and once happy drag and drop the MIDIs into the DAW. This would seem to be a pretty simple workaround for the Ableton routing issue, and open up a ton of Ableton users to this awesome tool?
I am going to buy this... BUT... oddly, and it could just be me... I didn't find any of the results presented in this video (or one other that I've seen) musically satisfying or compelling for me to buy. I can tell this product is using basic music theory algorithms and patterns, not highly-trained AI, which if trained well, would be much more likely to create inspiring and compelling result nearly every time - it would've learned and then been able to infer, not from the rules of music theory and patterns, but from abstracting its own "music theory" from the breakdown and comparative juxtaposition analysis of instruments in many tens of thousands of real songs by real human artists and composers that it was trained on. Perhaps W.A. Production will get around to that in version 3. Most of the results, at least in this video, are NOT what a human composer or musician would aim for. HOWEVER, the wealth of available tweaking MIGHT allow me to dial in inspiring results, so I WILL buy at the current intro price to support the work of the W. A. Production team. I seem to never be lacking in the self-inspired creation department for creating parts that exactly reflect my imagination, so I don't know exactly when I would use this product. Perhaps if in a crunch. Despite all of the above, I commend W. A. Production for producing a solid product that may solve the inspiration and composition needs of many.
Looks good, but seems to lack the ability to apply styles to the AI gen. Still I might get the trial and have a play. Maybe a good future feature would be musical style presets that [as a minimum] set the AI gen parameters to sensible values for each style or genre
Great tool for kick starting ideas, I've been especially enjoying it as source for interesting drum patterns with variations. I was having one weird issue with it yesterday ... when I drag drop a bassline from Instacomposer into my DAW and have InstaComposer still play a drumloop on a different track, the timing/sync is off, unless I reset the sync or loop points. Quite possibly user error though. I've had v1 for ages but never used it much so I'm not that familiar with it. Maybe a quirk in Reaper. Not a huge problem anyway, just need to check that the project is the same when reloaded before moving on. Totally worth the upgrade price just for a good source of drum patterns.
Hey, thanks for the feedback! I'd be interested in seeing what's happening so we can look into it. If you'd be willing to record a video and send to info@waproduction.com, that would be great!
@@w.a.production Hi, thanks very much for the response. All good now, it turned out to be user error sorry : ) Long story short, an active plugin in my monitoring fx chain which I'd forgotten about, and which was adding audio latency and playing havoc with MIDI/audio sync. Sorry about that, and thanks again.
Is there now a way to route midi to different instruments in Ableton without the need for Bluecat? For instance route to virtual midi cables then back into Ableton with those virtual cables?
Hi, I tried with this new version and it uses the same multi channel midi routing, so Ableton can't handle it as it only detects all midi channels coming from Instacomposer as one only channel. An interesting and simple workaround is to use 2 different octaves for each of the Instacomposer tracks and then use the pitch and range tool in Ableton to assign instruments, take a look at this tutorial ruclips.net/video/45NEcMrQ_D0/видео.html Another free alternative is to use Kushview Element as plugin host, in the same way as you would do with patchwork by loading all instruments inside and using the module called "midi Channel Splitter" to separate the midi channels. Also if you prefer to use virtual midi ports instead of loading all the instruments inside Element, you can do it as well, load just the Instacomposer inside Element, then connect it to the channel splitter, then connect the corresponding midi channel directly to the virtual midi ports, the just select the virtual midi ports as inputs inside Live
@@LindsayStone I tested it using loopmidi virtual port, it's enough to use one single midi port and it's not necessary to use the channel splitter inside element, the midi channel can then be selected from Ableton midi input dropdown.
I just bought the 1st version recently... Is there an upgrade price... If i knew an Instacomposer 2 was near to completion I would have waited... Either way it is a pretty amazing plugin... Great idea starter or writers block cure... If there was an upgrade option I wouldn't mind picking it up for the new features...
Yes but can it import MIDI, especially chord progressions? I'd like to import chord progressions I've made and exported from Scaler 2 and import them into Instacomposer 1 (or now, 2) but I haven't been able to come up with a way.
It doesn't quite work that way, however, you can select your own chords to build your own progression, and have it build off of those. So essentially, yes :)
Tried the demo... set up with Ableton 11 per instructions (triple checked) but MIDI was not sent, so no sound from instrument on 2nd channel. If I can't get the demo to work... why would I buy it?
Is there any instruction on how to route each channel from InstaComposer 2 to Midi channels in Logic Pro x? Also where is there a user guide for InstaComposer 2?
OK I impulse bought this thinking it could generate variations etc. off of a melody sequence you input into it. I'm not seeing any way to get your ideas and melodies etc. into the plugin. I mean I'm trying to figure out how this helps someone stuck in a loop make a song?
Indeed, InstaComposer generates MIDI based on parameters you set, it does not read external MIDI you create. This can help someone who is stuck by allowing them to generate chord progressions and melodies that work well together by letting them simply tweak parameters until something comes out that sparks inspiration.
I'm sorry to hear that. I think you guys really missed out on something amazing by not having the ability for Instantcomposer to generate ideas based on your own MIDI files, I don't need any help coming up with original ideas, I need help at times making a one or two part song into a complete song. . @@w.a.production
How can I send directory the output from the 6 Channels to 6 different softsynths channels in LogicPro? The Envirenment window is no longer accessible!
Is it true that all patterns are just preset patterns? If so than the randomizer does nothing more than selecting one of those preset patterns. Where is the AI in that?
InstaComposer 2 uses AI to generate chord voicing that flows nicely and compliments the other elements in the generation. However, you can always manually adjust this as well.
Does anybody know how to change a particular chord in InstComposer to the upbeat or and of a bar? So far I can only see that I can do a change on the downbeat. Please help.
No -- unfortunately, Garageband does not allow for MIDI effect plugins like InstaComposer. You would need to upgrade to Logic Pro or some other DAW that allows them.
it's actually not too bad -- instructions for reaper here: waproduction.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4407841293458-I-am-having-trouble-setting-up-InstaComposer-in-my-DAW-
@@w.a.production i've found when i drag and drop the midi over it sometimes doesn't work. it will work on certain tracks but not others and i've verified all tracks have full key range, it happened alot yesterday usually. i will try the routing instructions as i lost alot of time with the non working midi
@@straighttalk2069 money? reaper is free dude....its a nightmare program i wont even update it because im afraid it will ruin all my tracks. use anything but reaper
@@w.a.production In InsteComposer, we get virtually infinite and "random" generated results, or does it work from some big midi bank? Or does real artificial intelligence generate the tunes based on some complicated algorithm? Anyway, I bought it and managed to do very good things with it so far! Let's say it was not possible to generate a normal fill in for the drum track.
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I upgraded from V.1, well worth the upgrade. Thanks for making it so affordable.
Glad you like it! You're welcome!
Wow - I'm speechless. This thing blows my mind....
glad to hear!
Great I like the look of it , gives me control rather than just choosing random midi notes .
Man, so many ideas to create. So excited about what can come from it!!
heck yeah!
imagine draging a midi chord set in and it creates the patterns for you
It doesn’t do that
@@KzZk-ye9gp that’s why you imagine it
@@issiewizzie😂
Yeah once they have this feature I'll buy it
I had great fun and ideas with IC1. After watching this and some feedback I went onto WAP and saw that the upgrade price to IC2 was VERY generous... No brainer really, CLICK and it's mine!
glad you feel that way! Enjoy :)
WAP! Great song haha
Recently purchased, still learning, but this thing is awesome! Well worth the money, and super fun even if you're only playing around with it.
Only request is: One simple sound bank included as default. Even just a low quality piano as a reference for what midi might (potentially) sound like when dropped on something else.
Just a thought, but I might be missing something.
thanks for the feedback!
@@w.a.production Just add a multichannel/multitimbral Soundfont playback engine with a basic general midi soundfount loaded and your done.
I like the random chord generator, but can we also enter our own specific chords & let the program write the tracks to our chords?
not at this time, however, there are many parameters to help you craft the generation to your liking
This looks really great. When are you guys gonna make an iOS version?
Thanks for the suggestion, we'll keep it in mind
@@w.a.productionyes that would be nice
As Instacomposer doesn't really work with Ableton (Ableton's fault for not having multi routing) - could the VST be updated to include some onboard sounds? That way Ableton users could use all the IC features to build up a 6 track mix (within the plugin itself rather than routing MIDI to DAW channels), and once happy drag and drop the MIDIs into the DAW. This would seem to be a pretty simple workaround for the Ableton routing issue, and open up a ton of Ableton users to this awesome tool?
Now I'm sold.
Nice :)
Waves at it again🔥
Solid upgrades. I am most interested in the new scenes.
awesome :)
finally you can sequence in the vst finally !
It's realy a powerfull tools, good work 😉💪👍
thanks for the feedback!
Is this InstaComposer 2 software compatibility with GarageBand?
I am going to buy this... BUT... oddly, and it could just be me... I didn't find any of the results presented in this video (or one other that I've seen) musically satisfying or compelling for me to buy. I can tell this product is using basic music theory algorithms and patterns, not highly-trained AI, which if trained well, would be much more likely to create inspiring and compelling result nearly every time - it would've learned and then been able to infer, not from the rules of music theory and patterns, but from abstracting its own "music theory" from the breakdown and comparative juxtaposition analysis of instruments in many tens of thousands of real songs by real human artists and composers that it was trained on. Perhaps W.A. Production will get around to that in version 3. Most of the results, at least in this video, are NOT what a human composer or musician would aim for. HOWEVER, the wealth of available tweaking MIGHT allow me to dial in inspiring results, so I WILL buy at the current intro price to support the work of the W. A. Production team. I seem to never be lacking in the self-inspired creation department for creating parts that exactly reflect my imagination, so I don't know exactly when I would use this product. Perhaps if in a crunch. Despite all of the above, I commend W. A. Production for producing a solid product that may solve the inspiration and composition needs of many.
Thanks for the feedback. We think with some time using the plugin, you would see that it can create some pretty fantastic results
@@w.a.production Thanks, I certainly will. And thanks again for producing a product that allows us to explore these possibilities.
Yeah if they presented a good composition, could be more inspiring to buy
Looks good, but seems to lack the ability to apply styles to the AI gen. Still I might get the trial and have a play. Maybe a good future feature would be musical style presets that [as a minimum] set the AI gen parameters to sensible values for each style or genre
thanks -- we do offer expansion packs that include presets designed to generate patterns consistent with those commonly found in specific genres
THE GOAT
Great tool for kick starting ideas, I've been especially enjoying it as source for interesting drum patterns with variations.
I was having one weird issue with it yesterday ... when I drag drop a bassline from Instacomposer into my DAW and have InstaComposer still play a drumloop on a different track, the timing/sync is off, unless I reset the sync or loop points.
Quite possibly user error though. I've had v1 for ages but never used it much so I'm not that familiar with it. Maybe a quirk in Reaper. Not a huge problem anyway, just need to check that the project is the same when reloaded before moving on.
Totally worth the upgrade price just for a good source of drum patterns.
Hey, thanks for the feedback! I'd be interested in seeing what's happening so we can look into it. If you'd be willing to record a video and send to info@waproduction.com, that would be great!
@@w.a.production Hi, thanks very much for the response.
All good now, it turned out to be user error sorry : ) Long story short, an active plugin in my monitoring fx chain which I'd forgotten about, and which was adding audio latency and playing havoc with MIDI/audio sync.
Sorry about that, and thanks again.
Is there now a way to route midi to different instruments in Ableton without the need for Bluecat? For instance route to virtual midi cables then back into Ableton with those virtual cables?
Hi, I tried with this new version and it uses the same multi channel midi routing, so Ableton can't handle it as it only detects all midi channels coming from Instacomposer as one only channel. An interesting and simple workaround is to use 2 different octaves for each of the Instacomposer tracks and then use the pitch and range tool in Ableton to assign instruments, take a look at this tutorial ruclips.net/video/45NEcMrQ_D0/видео.html
Another free alternative is to use Kushview Element as plugin host, in the same way as you would do with patchwork by loading all instruments inside and using the module called "midi Channel Splitter" to separate the midi channels. Also if you prefer to use virtual midi ports instead of loading all the instruments inside Element, you can do it as well, load just the Instacomposer inside Element, then connect it to the channel splitter, then connect the corresponding midi channel directly to the virtual midi ports, the just select the virtual midi ports as inputs inside Live
@@salvatorediguido4883 Thank you so much I'll have to try that. Seems like the virtual ports option will be the best for my workflow
@@LindsayStone I tested it using loopmidi virtual port, it's enough to use one single midi port and it's not necessary to use the channel splitter inside element, the midi channel can then be selected from Ableton midi input dropdown.
I uploaded a short tutorial on how to use the multi channel functionality on Live ruclips.net/video/rRWUYzejkIY/видео.html
@@LindsayStone ruclips.net/video/rRWUYzejkIY/видео.html
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indeed!
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I just bought the 1st version recently... Is there an upgrade price... If i knew an Instacomposer 2 was near to completion I would have waited... Either way it is a pretty amazing plugin... Great idea starter or writers block cure... If there was an upgrade option I wouldn't mind picking it up for the new features...
I just found the upgrade option!!! Nice!!! Looking forward to giving this a spin
awesome, enjoy!
Yes but can it import MIDI, especially chord progressions? I'd like to import chord progressions I've made and exported from Scaler 2 and import them into Instacomposer 1 (or now, 2) but I haven't been able to come up with a way.
Plug Boutique have you tube tutorial on how to do what you want 👍
Link
@@desoconnor7445Can you point me to that video please?
@@VidaMusica Apologies …crossed wires …you can import midi to Scaler or scaler 2 and then export midi stems ..complex or simple 👍
@@desoconnor7445 ahhh ok. I was so excited to try it. Thanks for replying 😌
If I purchase it I can take the midi out of the vst? To use it maybe on another vst or something like that?
yes -- you can drag the MIDI onto any track in your DAW.
Does the Sync work on it? Tried in S1A 6 and Cakewalk and it didn't appear to.
Doesn’t work with Reaper either😮
@@desoconnor7445 in the menu dropdown there is a option for it to start/stop with DAW The button on the GUI just looks pretty.
@johnny's answer is correct here.
@@Johnnygibson007 Thanks for sorting this issue …👍👍👍
Are you able to draw in your own chord patterns and build from that?
It doesn't quite work that way, however, you can select your own chords to build your own progression, and have it build off of those. So essentially, yes :)
Tried the demo... set up with Ableton 11 per instructions (triple checked) but MIDI was not sent, so no sound from instrument on 2nd channel. If I can't get the demo to work... why would I buy it?
please submit a request here: waproduction.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
Is there any instruction on how to route each channel from InstaComposer 2 to Midi channels in Logic Pro x? Also where is there a user guide for InstaComposer 2?
Logic instructions can be found here: waproduction.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4407841293458-I-am-having-trouble-setting-up-InstaComposer-in-my-DAW-
WA have produced a series of RUclips vids relating to routing . These are on their web site…it’s really straight forward 👍
During I using instacomposer 2 in logic pro, I can use midi keyboard only in track 1 if I choose any diffrent tracks.
please submit a request here: waproduction.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
OK I impulse bought this thinking it could generate variations etc. off of a melody sequence you input into it. I'm not seeing any way to get your ideas and melodies etc. into the plugin. I mean I'm trying to figure out how this helps someone stuck in a loop make a song?
Indeed, InstaComposer generates MIDI based on parameters you set, it does not read external MIDI you create.
This can help someone who is stuck by allowing them to generate chord progressions and melodies that work well together by letting them simply tweak parameters until something comes out that sparks inspiration.
I'm sorry to hear that. I think you guys really missed out on something amazing by not having the ability for Instantcomposer to generate ideas based on your own MIDI files, I don't need any help coming up with original ideas, I need help at times making a one or two part song into a complete song. . @@w.a.production
I think I got fooled, instant composer 2 that I bought doesn't have the same interface at all. How is it possible ?
That is not possible :) please submit a request here so we can help: waproduction.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
How can I send directory the output from the 6 Channels to 6 different softsynths channels in LogicPro? The Envirenment window is no longer accessible!
Yes, you're right, they changed the location of the environment. However, if you click "CMD + 0" , it will appear :)
Can you select genres or musical styles?
yep! we have several genre-specific expansions
Does Cinematic Expansion works with InstaComposer 2?
all existing expansions work with InstaComposer 2, they just don't take advantage of the new features, like Scenes
i have a question, why cant i hear anything when i push play
please submit a request here: waproduction.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
Is it true that all patterns are just preset patterns? If so than the randomizer does nothing more than selecting one of those preset patterns. Where is the AI in that?
That is not true. The plugin uses AI to generate the patterns based on the parameters you set. There is no preset assortment of patterns.
@@w.a.production Are you sure?
very. We made the plugin haha.@@CaseClash
what about chords voice leading?
InstaComposer 2 uses AI to generate chord voicing that flows nicely and compliments the other elements in the generation. However, you can always manually adjust this as well.
Can you resize the window of the VST ?
👍
Yes, just click Menu > UI Scaling
Does anybody know how to change a particular chord in InstComposer to the upbeat or and of a bar? So far I can only see that I can do a change on the downbeat. Please help.
Hi you audition and alter midi in the editor 👍
i cant change the key
that's because you are on the free trial. You need to activate a license to do that.
Can I use InstaComposer 2 in Garageband?
No -- unfortunately, Garageband does not allow for MIDI effect plugins like InstaComposer. You would need to upgrade to Logic Pro or some other DAW that allows them.
how can I rout it to the first 6 Chanels in Logic ?
Logic instructions can be found here: waproduction.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4407841293458-I-am-having-trouble-setting-up-InstaComposer-in-my-DAW-
Demo ?
yes, all our plugins have a free demo.
How do I set this up in studio one
instructions here: waproduction.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4407841293458-I-am-having-trouble-setting-up-InstaComposer-in-my-DAW-
Hi can you drag midi from say Ableton into a track of InstaComposr? ?
No -- InstaComposer only generates MIDI, it does not read external MIDI.
No worries. Thanks.@@w.a.production
If in an update the ability to hear incoming midi say from scaler 2 would be massive.
i hiope you can export the entire midi track and not just clips like n
Anyone else struggling to get it working in fl studio 21? It even says the code I bought doesn’t work to register it… bought off of pluginboutique
please submit a request here: waproduction.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/requests/new
routing this is going to be an absolute nightmare in reaper. i need to get off that shit daw
it's actually not too bad -- instructions for reaper here: waproduction.zendesk.com/hc/en-us/articles/4407841293458-I-am-having-trouble-setting-up-InstaComposer-in-my-DAW-
@@w.a.production i've found when i drag and drop the midi over it sometimes doesn't work. it will work on certain tracks but not others and i've verified all tracks have full key range, it happened alot yesterday usually. i will try the routing instructions as i lost alot of time with the non working midi
I've just moved to Reaper and I really like it. I think it's the best value for the money DAW.
@@straighttalk2069 money? reaper is free dude....its a nightmare program i wont even update it because im afraid it will ruin all my tracks. use anything but reaper
Ffs just learn music if you want to be a musician.
SERIOUSLY! I know studying isn’t popular but digicrap isn’t either.
Read a book
Hi! Do the Insta Composer add-ons only contain presets that we can create ourselves, or things that the basic program can't do on its own?
It only creates presets -- it does not give you additional features in InstaComposer 2
@@w.a.production Thank you for your answer! Unfortunately, the notification is turned off, so I just got back here. Happy Holidays!
@@w.a.production
In InsteComposer, we get virtually infinite and "random" generated results, or does it work from some big midi bank? Or does real artificial intelligence generate the tunes based on some complicated algorithm? Anyway, I bought it and managed to do very good things with it so far! Let's say it was not possible to generate a normal fill in for the drum track.