Thank you. Yours is one of the videos about the plugin that is actually made with a good understanding and passion behind it. A few useful hints for Instacomposer 2 for anybody interested: 1. Drum map is based on standard GM mapping. 2. You can right click on any chord to show it on the chord helper section. 3. Pre Gen Mod controls, does not effect already generated tracks. 4. You can drag anywhere on the track (long section with MIDI) and dont always have to use the drag icon. 5. Remember to generate a new chord progression and MIDI output when you change the scale. Otherwise you'll get wrong notes because of the mismatch. 6. Just like here spend some time to set inspiring instruments first. A cheap out pf place sound will make anything sound terrible. 7. Send any bug reports and feature requests to the developers so they can improve it in the next versions.
I just want to agree and concur with that appreciation. W.A Productions know how to treat their loyal customers. Makes me confident to purchase new tools from them. I saw the IC2 announcement video pop up in my youtube feed and before it was finished playing, i had already purchased the upgrade. I’m having a skinny budget for this week but I could afford it anyway. Intro price discount appreciated indeed.
And scaler is doing what ? Providing a chord progression? But isn't that what instacomposer does, create chord progressions? Not sure if scaler is really helping.
A very democratic demo of two great systems for rapid creation of music. I certainly both use Scaler and IC ..it’s not a competition ….it’s perhaps a complimentary thing ..both environments have their own marvellous Usp’s …we are so lucky…my motto blowing in the wind is grow together 🙏🏿🙏✨👍
Well, that would be way greater if InstaComposer could accept MIDI import of chords, because rewriting those chords into it from Scaler is not something I like to do, reason why I mostly use Scaler only ... and that's kind of sad because InstaComposer make indeed great proposals when already configured with the right chords
Yeah that is kind of frustrating. You could do it the other way around though, generate the chord progression within InstaComposer and MIDI listen to it within Scaler to capture it
@@desoconnor7445 Oh I agree it should be possible. Even if instacomposer were to add an import chord midi function that simply set the chord progression. That would be fine for interoperability and also relatively easy to code. Plus you could use it among with those free huge midi chord packs then.
Just got the update. Using it in FL Studio is workable. Setting up a template to use for song starters is the way to go. Drag and drop is doable but not as intuitive as AbleNot. Swings and roundabouts. Love Scaler and Instacomposer.
For me it is a technique with potential that should be exploited to the maximum for those moments where you need a starting point in the melodic composition, for those moments where inspiration does not come or you are in a creative block.
Another great tutorial Josh. Would be great if you could teleport chord progressions between plugins but I’ll take it. Love both of these plugins. Scaler 2 is still my all time reigning champion midi and composition plugin. I can’t believe how accessible all this stuff is. What a time to be alive!
I would like to see these types of products build some country, rock or ballad types of sounds. It seems these plugins are always doing ambient type electronic music that doesn't really go anywhere or resolve. These types of demos just can't really incorporate lyrical vocals. Lets see someone do music with these plugins and add the vocals to go with it..
InstaComposer 2 has a problem with sounding the same even if you "randomize". It seems to have a group of 50 different settings per "track" and after a while you can see the same patterns repeat themselves even if your using randomization! I think InstaComposer is just a bunch of presets. It was a waste of money.
I agree that for generative AI, the future is structural. Generate 3D meshes instead of pixels (there’s a new project for that). Generate midi instead of audio. I don’t think IC2 uses a Large Language Model approach but there’s no rule saying that AI needs to. However, once they do go that route, things will get very interesting if people can drop in their own genre based models. Musicians can even train a model on their own unique style and use generative AI to 100x their productivity.
Some have said that Insta contains about 50 preset patterns and they repeat after that. Do you think thats accurate? If true, there is no infinite generation of results with the randomizer. Please let me know.
So what sold me, was the dorian mode function on the melody part, since i dont think there is a single generator that goes further than the "normal" scales, even though scaler has the riff and ostinato function. Theres some complaints, about the generator part on the scale, but if you can use scaler for that and import it, its a deal.
I'm diggin the video. The only thing I would ask is that you start with how to route each within FL Studio. If you have already done a video on the routing within FL Studio them please include the links so we may refer to them later. There are old guys like me that get easily confused. Other than that I'm loving both plugins!
Unfortunately, I don't have FL Studio on my computer. Are you looking to route InstaComposer? The manual has routing for most major DAWs, you might check there. Let me know :) - JC
You can route a single midi in fl studio, which means, if you are thinking about doing a concerto, it wont apply since there is no divisi, each section has to be routed into a single midi. However if you are just going with a plain piano, then it works.
I wish there was a method to import a song into a program and automatically generate a MIDI file with perfectly placed chord progressions synced with the original song.
Couldn't get along with InstaComposer but Scaler in combination with Phrasebox works fine for me. Lot of randomization options and uses note 1-8 from the midi input (from Scaler) instead of fixed keys.
Does anybody know how to change a particular chord in InstComposer to the upbeat or and of a bar? So far I can only see that I can do a change on the downbeat. Please help.
InstaComposer 2 is great only have the trial that u can use and start up again after 10 randoms but that sucks so gonna buy the full when i get some cash over:)!
I only have Insta Composer 1.0.3. Is that good enough ? If so, what would I be lacking in flexibility/scope ? Also, I note that in scaler ect you start with a bunch of chords. These normally form the say verse. What programs or tools are out there to suggest bridge chords, chorus chords, pre chorus chords ?
I might be using an old version of Scaler 2, but for some reason I type in a flat version of a chord and Scaler will change it to a sharp version of the same chord. That gets very annoying! Any way to stop that and keep the flat version?
yes it can as a matter of fact you can Load instacomposer on an external intrument track this would send all midi channels back to all your tracks yes remember to select the right midi channel . this technique works for me
Insta is not IA. The control parameter are fake (just random). WA is not à True technologie compagny. But a very good marketing compagny. I buy many stuff from WA. Many time upset... all that you show in this video can be controled into scaler himself with perform mode. Scaler is à god for sûre (i love David) but insta is just à fake. Take care.
Scaler is better by itself. InstaComposer 2 was a waste of my money. It pretty much doesn't create anything new and after a while you'll hear the same "presets" repeat themselves! InstaComposer 2 is a scam!
both plugins with TERRIBLE UI. So unreadable, dark and ugly. I have both and I do not use them, because my eyes get tired to quickly... Perhaps it can be used on the laptop, and only there, otherwise those plugins were made by people who have no idea how to design UI !
Thank you. Yours is one of the videos about the plugin that is actually made with a good understanding and passion behind it.
A few useful hints for Instacomposer 2 for anybody interested:
1. Drum map is based on standard GM mapping.
2. You can right click on any chord to show it on the chord helper section.
3. Pre Gen Mod controls, does not effect already generated tracks.
4. You can drag anywhere on the track (long section with MIDI) and dont always have to use the drag icon.
5. Remember to generate a new chord progression and MIDI output when you change the scale. Otherwise you'll get wrong notes because of the mismatch.
6. Just like here spend some time to set inspiring instruments first. A cheap out pf place sound will make anything sound terrible.
7. Send any bug reports and feature requests to the developers so they can improve it in the next versions.
nice!
For us instacomposer 1 users thank you W.A. for the loyalty price of $10 much Appreciated👍🏾
I just want to agree and concur with that appreciation. W.A Productions know how to treat their loyal customers. Makes me confident to purchase new tools from them. I saw the IC2 announcement video pop up in my youtube feed and before it was finished playing, i had already purchased the upgrade. I’m having a skinny budget for this week but I could afford it anyway. Intro price discount appreciated indeed.
Same here… don’t think I would have upgraded if that wasn’t the offer… I recently purchased v1
How can i have too
And scaler is doing what ? Providing a chord progression? But isn't that what instacomposer does, create chord progressions? Not sure if scaler is really helping.
A very democratic demo of two great systems for rapid creation of music. I certainly both use Scaler and IC ..it’s not a competition ….it’s perhaps a complimentary thing ..both environments have their own marvellous Usp’s …we are so lucky…my motto blowing in the wind is grow together 🙏🏿🙏✨👍
Well, that would be way greater if InstaComposer could accept MIDI import of chords, because rewriting those chords into it from Scaler is not something I like to do, reason why I mostly use Scaler only ... and that's kind of sad because InstaComposer make indeed great proposals when already configured with the right chords
Yeah that is kind of frustrating. You could do it the other way around though, generate the chord progression within InstaComposer and MIDI listen to it within Scaler to capture it
@@pelennorDSPwhich would be missing the point 😎
Inter app collaboration is both the way forward and very productive as evidenced in this tutorial 👍🙏🏿🙏🎩
@@desoconnor7445 Oh I agree it should be possible. Even if instacomposer were to add an import chord midi function that simply set the chord progression. That would be fine for interoperability and also relatively easy to code. Plus you could use it among with those free huge midi chord packs then.
Just got the update. Using it in FL Studio is workable. Setting up a template to use for song starters is the way to go. Drag and drop is doable but not as intuitive as AbleNot. Swings and roundabouts. Love Scaler and Instacomposer.
For me it is a technique with potential that should be exploited to the maximum for those moments where you need a starting point in the melodic composition, for those moments where inspiration does not come or you are in a creative block.
Another great tutorial Josh. Would be great if you could teleport chord progressions between plugins but I’ll take it. Love both of these plugins. Scaler 2 is still my all time reigning champion midi and composition plugin. I can’t believe how accessible all this stuff is. What a time to be alive!
So much talk-bs to make music, phuck scaller, get a piano and move on!
I would like to see these types of products build some country, rock or ballad types of sounds. It seems these plugins are always doing ambient type electronic music that doesn't really go anywhere or resolve. These types of demos just can't really incorporate lyrical vocals. Lets see someone do music with these plugins and add the vocals to go with it..
InstaComposer 2 has a problem with sounding the same even if you "randomize". It seems to have a group of 50 different settings per "track" and after a while you can see the same patterns repeat themselves even if your using randomization! I think InstaComposer is just a bunch of presets. It was a waste of money.
I would just take the idea created from instacomposer as a starting point only.. not totally dependent on such a plugin..
I agree that for generative AI, the future is structural. Generate 3D meshes instead of pixels (there’s a new project for that). Generate midi instead of audio. I don’t think IC2 uses a Large Language Model approach but there’s no rule saying that AI needs to. However, once they do go that route, things will get very interesting if people can drop in their own genre based models. Musicians can even train a model on their own unique style and use generative AI to 100x their productivity.
I got it now, as an update from version 1. Great. I will storm the charts 😎
Some have said that Insta contains about 50 preset patterns and they repeat after that. Do you think thats accurate? If true, there is no infinite generation of results with the randomizer. Please let me know.
Picked the upgrade up for £10 used £1.81 plugin token.£8.09 for this is a absolute no brainer. ❤
So what sold me, was the dorian mode function on the melody part, since i dont think there is a single generator that goes further than the "normal" scales, even though scaler has the riff and ostinato function.
Theres some complaints, about the generator part on the scale, but if you can use scaler for that and import it, its a deal.
It is insane..! Thanks 4 demonstrating the amazing vst from WA
Glad you like it! - JC
Awesome tut! Thanks!
Glad you liked it! - JC
Interesting. Thank you for this
I'm diggin the video. The only thing I would ask is that you start with how to route each within FL Studio. If you have already done a video on the routing within FL Studio them please include the links so we may refer to them later. There are old guys like me that get easily confused. Other than that I'm loving both plugins!
Unfortunately, I don't have FL Studio on my computer. Are you looking to route InstaComposer? The manual has routing for most major DAWs, you might check there. Let me know :) - JC
You can route a single midi in fl studio, which means, if you are thinking about doing a concerto, it wont apply since there is no divisi, each section has to be routed into a single midi.
However if you are just going with a plain piano, then it works.
How to setup both plugins ? Video should start with it.
I wish there was a method to import a song into a program and automatically generate a MIDI file with perfectly placed chord progressions synced with the original song.
Scaler 2
This is mind-blowing.
Couldn't get along with InstaComposer but Scaler in combination with Phrasebox works fine for me. Lot of randomization options and uses note 1-8 from the midi input (from Scaler) instead of fixed keys.
Does anybody know how to change a particular chord in InstComposer to the upbeat or and of a bar? So far I can only see that I can do a change on the downbeat. Please help.
I think if Scaler 2 could be combined with applications to achieve greater depth?
Can you choose style of music in Instacomposer ?
Chord-Track in Studio ONe for all DAW, please!
Just purchased but I can’t pull the midi out. I use maschine studio
InstaComposer 2 is great only have the trial that u can use and start up again after 10 randoms but that sucks so gonna buy the full when i get some cash over:)!
That was a Sade jam
Can I use other Kontakt and Native Instruments vsts with InstaComposer and work in MIDI / piano roll?
Do you mean vst instruments?
what's the point of making music if you're gonna click a few times and the plugin will just make everything for you?
InstaComposer 2 ,instachord 2+ Scaler 2= FOR ME ALL IS SAME ,I DONT ANY DIFERENCE..BUT THA WINNER S IS= instachord 2
I'd really like to see Scaler able to load midi files to be played back.
Imagine if you can just drag the midi from scaler into instant composer for pattern generation
Where on the channel is Instacomposer though?
i thought this was a loopcloud ad for a second
Is there a way to put in chords and then have scaler analyze the theory behind it?
Yes. Scaler can suggest scales of midi melodies and chord sequences you feed into it. - JC
@@PluginBoutiqueOfficial Thanks!
I only have Insta Composer 1.0.3. Is that good enough ? If so, what would I be lacking in flexibility/scope ? Also, I note that in scaler ect you start with a bunch of chords. These normally form the say verse. What programs or tools are out there to suggest bridge chords, chorus chords, pre chorus chords ?
Scaler has very powerful modulation tools you can use to get ideas for transitions like bridges or pre chorus.
@@ivanrojasreischel Thanks, but not what I'm really after....
I might be using an old version of Scaler 2, but for some reason I type in a flat version of a chord and Scaler will change it to a sharp version of the same chord. That gets very annoying! Any way to stop that and keep the flat version?
Check the preferences?
How do I set this up in. studio one
When the A.I. generate chords come in at 3:30 they sound terrible lol.
I really think Plugin Boutique should dump W.A Productions and Soundspot
@@Kevhuman What's wrong with Ujam?
❤
Can a midi file be loaded into a instacomposer track to use to generate the other tracks?
No, not currently.
Can this be done in Logic Pro?
yes it can as a matter of fact you can Load instacomposer on an external intrument track this would send all midi channels back to all your tracks
yes remember to select the right midi channel . this technique works for me
Scaler 2 is always (not really) on sale
Can you import your chord progression from Scaler?
Not yet, that is why he did it manually
Where is the chord spread knob?
The new Pad 2 algorithm has a wide option
Insta is not IA. The control parameter are fake (just random). WA is not à True technologie compagny. But a very good marketing compagny. I buy many stuff from WA. Many time upset... all that you show in this video can be controled into scaler himself with perform mode.
Scaler is à god for sûre (i love David) but insta is just à fake.
Take care.
This is no fun for me. :((
If this works, im gonna crate the f*** out of 400 years of composing.
I loved this video!!!
Thanks for that! - JC
A bit complicated for a beginner. But if youre advanced then you dont need this plugins 😂
lol, the s*** actually worked!
Recommended?
@@imiparerau432 I would recommend the mix!
I would not call that result “fire.”
Couldn't disagree more with this video. Scaler VASTLY under used and Insta Composer vastly overrated. Oh well...
Scaler is better by itself. InstaComposer 2 was a waste of my money. It pretty much doesn't create anything new and after a while you'll hear the same "presets" repeat themselves! InstaComposer 2 is a scam!
both plugins with TERRIBLE UI. So unreadable, dark and ugly. I have both and I do not use them, because my eyes get tired to quickly...
Perhaps it can be used on the laptop, and only there, otherwise those plugins were made by people who have no idea how to design UI !