What really helped me was taking the withdrawals one day at a time, not pressuring yourself with unrealistic goals, not trying to get better asap, but still trying to "live" and not just stagnant. Practicing gratitude, and accepting that bad days with lack of sleep and/or depression are still progress, even if it certainly doesnt feel like it is in the moment. It is not easy, you have to learn how to be patient with yourself and rebuild a relationship with you, and learn how to live life again. It takes time, it takes trial and error, it takes painful lessons, it takes a lot of willpower to go through all the frustration, when you want to be normal again, but you just feel like you are dragged down and you have to race every day against this anhedonia. It tests you, for sure. You cant be 80% pro quitting and 20% not want to quit, you really need to be fully determined that this is what you HAVE TO do in order to move forward.
Thanks Nolan. I've set the date of September 25. My D Day. I've been a heavy user for 8 years, literally all day, every day. And all in secret from anyone I know. I drive for work, so my skin on my left arm neck and some of my right hand have turned gray from sun exposer, which really yanks any bit of confidence I have left. I've lost all personality and always anxious and derived from a social life. Anyway, September 25. Thanks, brother for your videos, helps with motivation. Gym and lorazepam and the hope of regaining my life is my game plan. And finally at some point, a tattoo sleeve to cover the damage of my arm. Grabbing your book to have on hand next week
No problem Travis. Can totally relate. After heavy use for 3+ years felt the same way, and thought I was done for. Lost my social life, personality etc. It's all coming back so much faster than I ever thought it would; keep your head up! Don't put too much pressure on yourself, also one thing that helped was not comparing myself to other people who I thought had more friends or a better life than me. All in time! September 25th is totally your day, you've got this. Keep it up man
Na I’ve heard of kratom being the reason for the gray skin, from what I heard it rarely happens and it takes some time for it to repair but it’s the kratom that did that to you and I’m sure the sun didn’t help
Ok, now that I actually have time to watch this video... I've seen all the quitting kratom videos and this one really deserves way more views. Yeah the last time I decided to quit and started tapering down, for a couple days I was super emotional. I started watching a couple videos about Chester Bennington and his death and his music made me cry because he committed suicide. Before, I never really even listened to that band.
Doing this now! Started by picking up a copy of your book. Purchased the supplements for support. Going from over 30 gpd and am down to less than 20 gpd within 2 difficult weeks but doable. I’ll keep this up for months and plan to be totally off by spring 2025. That feels too long but I know me and I’ll climb back up if I don’t plan a long slow taper. I need support so I’m making myself a regular in the support groups (starting …soon-why is it so difficult to join kratom quit groups? I feel so much shame in this addiction.
Last year I went to Europe for a month where kratom is illegal, I brought small amount with me which I slowly tapered off over 10 days. The only physical symptoms I expericend was mild insomnia, for the rest of 20 days I felt no other physical discomfort, my brain was asking it for it from time to time but I told it to STFU and it listened. It was a lot easier than I anticipated. But when I got back to US I started using again like, my habit is about 10GPD Today is the first day of fall, I took 7.5 grams and I'm slowly going to taper off again for good. Thank you for this video Nolan.
I literally found out I gave scoliosis the other day and cashier at a grocery store. I'm taking 2 weeks off and starting physical therapy going it's enough. Honestly now that I've tapered back and don't even feel much of anything it's hard to justify coming off completely. I didn't even think about drinking yesterday even though I sold thousands of dollars worth of alcohol. I never got constipated except for the clonidine I used to quit. I'm actually more regular. Kratom is pretty cheap though. I paid $60 a kilo and used 25g a day. That's $1.50
Well I'm on day 4 and happy to say it's been a cakewalk. I guess switching to stem and vein for the last month or so leading up to it worked plus the gram of agmatine morning and night.
@@stopspyingonme9210 were the withdrawals really that easy to get thru switching to stem and vein? And can I ask how many GPD you took and for how many years before the switch to SnV, n then how much SnV in grams u took while tapering
@@RobertHasty SnV is the stems n veins powdered. Rather the the leaves. It should help you with ur tolerance/taper. It’s supposed to be easier to withdraw from SnV then reg kratom. If u can I would use ur powder n make a tea w a French press n that will help a lot too. Tea is weaker n cleaner!
Wait till you stop using the stem and vein stuff too matter of fact when you stop using anything is when you can really say your finally kratom free. I’m not against you trying to ease the uncomfort but you’re not 100% off yet.
@@ervoro5949 what makes you think I'm still taking anything? I took 1 dose after work Saturday night and through everything in a dumpster. In fact it's day 8. I wish I worked this week to be honest
What really helped me was taking the withdrawals one day at a time, not pressuring yourself with unrealistic goals, not trying to get better asap, but still trying to "live" and not just stagnant. Practicing gratitude, and accepting that bad days with lack of sleep and/or depression are still progress, even if it certainly doesnt feel like it is in the moment. It is not easy, you have to learn how to be patient with yourself and rebuild a relationship with you, and learn how to live life again. It takes time, it takes trial and error, it takes painful lessons, it takes a lot of willpower to go through all the frustration, when you want to be normal again, but you just feel like you are dragged down and you have to race every day against this anhedonia. It tests you, for sure. You cant be 80% pro quitting and 20% not want to quit, you really need to be fully determined that this is what you HAVE TO do in order to move forward.
Great channel!!!
Day 5 CT from 07ohmz tablets and extracts. Making sure it sticks this time.
Thanks Nolan. I've set the date of September 25. My D Day. I've been a heavy user for 8 years, literally all day, every day. And all in secret from anyone I know. I drive for work, so my skin on my left arm neck and some of my right hand have turned gray from sun exposer, which really yanks any bit of confidence I have left. I've lost all personality and always anxious and derived from a social life. Anyway, September 25. Thanks, brother for your videos, helps with motivation. Gym and lorazepam and the hope of regaining my life is my game plan. And finally at some point, a tattoo sleeve to cover the damage of my arm. Grabbing your book to have on hand next week
No problem Travis. Can totally relate. After heavy use for 3+ years felt the same way, and thought I was done for. Lost my social life, personality etc. It's all coming back so much faster than I ever thought it would; keep your head up! Don't put too much pressure on yourself, also one thing that helped was not comparing myself to other people who I thought had more friends or a better life than me. All in time!
September 25th is totally your day, you've got this. Keep it up man
Just curious why you turned gray? Anyway, I wish you the best! You got this
Wish you luck my man, it’s certainly achieveable!
Let's do this together Travis!
Na I’ve heard of kratom being the reason for the gray skin, from what I heard it rarely happens and it takes some time for it to repair but it’s the kratom that did that to you and I’m sure the sun didn’t help
You’re such a light in this life. I truly appreciate you.
Ok, now that I actually have time to watch this video... I've seen all the quitting kratom videos and this one really deserves way more views. Yeah the last time I decided to quit and started tapering down, for a couple days I was super emotional. I started watching a couple videos about Chester Bennington and his death and his music made me cry because he committed suicide. Before, I never really even listened to that band.
Doing this now!
Started by picking up a copy of your book.
Purchased the supplements for support.
Going from over 30 gpd and am down to less than 20 gpd within 2 difficult weeks but doable. I’ll keep this up for months and plan to be totally off by spring 2025. That feels too long but I know me and I’ll climb back up if I don’t plan a long slow taper. I need support so I’m making myself a regular in the support groups (starting …soon-why is it so difficult to join kratom quit groups? I feel so much shame in this addiction.
I spend about 500 a month. Time to kick this shit. Been taking it for 2+ years. 100-120 grams a day. I relate to you and your story.
120 grams a day.. good LORD man. wish you well, you're life will def be better without that
500 a week here
Thanks for the video Nolan! I absolutely love your videos! I rewatch them anytime I’m craving. Almost through Day 5 CT! Getting better each day!
Wooo! So proud. Need that positivity in this comments section; thanks for the love and KEEP AT IT
Last year I went to Europe for a month where kratom is illegal, I brought small amount with me which I slowly tapered off over 10 days. The only physical symptoms I expericend was mild insomnia, for the rest of 20 days I felt no other physical discomfort, my brain was asking it for it from time to time but I told it to STFU and it listened. It was a lot easier than I anticipated.
But when I got back to US I started using again like, my habit is about 10GPD
Today is the first day of fall, I took 7.5 grams and I'm slowly going to taper off again for good. Thank you for this video Nolan.
I literally found out I gave scoliosis the other day and cashier at a grocery store. I'm taking 2 weeks off and starting physical therapy going it's enough. Honestly now that I've tapered back and don't even feel much of anything it's hard to justify coming off completely. I didn't even think about drinking yesterday even though I sold thousands of dollars worth of alcohol. I never got constipated except for the clonidine I used to quit. I'm actually more regular. Kratom is pretty cheap though. I paid $60 a kilo and used 25g a day. That's $1.50
Well I'm on day 4 and happy to say it's been a cakewalk. I guess switching to stem and vein for the last month or so leading up to it worked plus the gram of agmatine morning and night.
Really? How are you now?😊
@@blocboi407 fine
@@stopspyingonme9210 were the withdrawals really that easy to get thru switching to stem and vein? And can I ask how many GPD you took and for how many years before the switch to SnV, n then how much SnV in grams u took while tapering
Stem and vein?
@@RobertHasty SnV is the stems n veins powdered. Rather the the leaves. It should help you with ur tolerance/taper. It’s supposed to be easier to withdraw from SnV then reg kratom. If u can I would use ur powder n make a tea w a French press n that will help a lot too. Tea is weaker n cleaner!
So I'm on day 3 and feel fine. I walked 8 miles yesterday. I guess switching to stem and vein before quitting worked.
Wait till you stop using the stem and vein stuff too matter of fact when you stop using anything is when you can really say your finally kratom free. I’m not against you trying to ease the uncomfort but you’re not 100% off yet.
@@ervoro5949 what makes you think I'm still taking anything? I took 1 dose after work Saturday night and through everything in a dumpster. In fact it's day 8. I wish I worked this week to be honest
he said he switched to stem and vein BEFORE he quit. He's saying he used it for a little while and quit kratom altogether
@@AuntieBobbySistaBecky he uses Xanax and other meds this dude isn’t 100% sober.
"quit kratom at home" Well where the hell else are you gonna quit it!? The zoo!?
@@My_trashtalking_account Way easier at the zoo. Many more distractions. Next video: Quitting Kratom at THE ZOO: How To
@@Nolanwrites exactly! When you see a bunch of us huddled together by chimpanzee exhibit, you know what's up!