"No Longer Vegan” 2018-2024 - The REAL Reason Plant-Based Dieters Quit…
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Why are they no longer vegan? Here's the REAL reason plant-based dieters quit...
Why do you think we are seeing an influx of ex-vegans? Let us know in the comments!
Presented by Klaus Mitchell
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A Vegan You Tube channel, Veggie Rose bought a dog from a breeder a few years ago she was upset at the feedback from many Vegans but also had many so called Vegans siding with her it was awful to see how many apologists there are. Buying from breeders is cruel and not Vegan.
#adoptdontshop
@@Incredible43 So if you are not a vegan then you can shop and not adopt.
I’m certified in plant based nutrition - within the studies we discovered that there are those who are gluten intolerant, but it goes beyond that. One thing the studies have yet to dive into are bacterial and viral loads. Someone who has celiac disease actually just had a bacterial or viral load overgrowth - it feeds off the gluten and it’s neurotoxins cause disease. Modern science calls this an autoimmune disorder - the body attacking itself in many cases; this is what they say when they don’t really know that’s going on. If someone has brain fog, that’s usually neurotoxins from the Epstein Barr virus (EBV). EBV will feed off of: heavy metals like mercury from fish, eggs, gluten, GMO soy and corn. Most people don’t have overgrowth so they can tolerate these foods, however others can have chronic illness that modern science has yet to unravel. Source: NYT Best selling author, Medical Medium. If more got educated on the information they’d never have to leave veganism; instead they could learn how to knock down the viral loads and live a healthy life with the least amount of impact on others.
@@OM617a Obviously people who get a pet dog have regard for them, whether they shop or adopt. But the big question is should they feed the dogs meat?
A hard lesson for vegans to be less reliant on influencers and focus more on nutrition advice and better everyday meal planning I think. Good video 👍
But it's supposed to be about the animals. Nutrition be damned.
Or maybe actual science and then realize that humans are not herbivores....
@@tinknal6449egans preaching the wrong message. Classic.
There is no child deficiency. But there is a choline deficiency, and its affecting 90% of Americans. #1 source of choline is egg yolk. #2 is liver at 65% RDI. #3 is caviar. #4 is fish. #5 are mushrooms at a measly 21% that is far less bioavailable.
#antinatalistforthekids
#antiveganforthehumans
An overwhelming majority of supposed 'nutritional science' is either one-off studies or propaganda campaigns paid for by the supplement industry & animal agriculture. Focusing on nutrition is not a good idea.
@@tinknal6449 Where are your fangs for ripping apart flesh that every other meat eater has?
Humans are opportunistic eaters, we can eat whatever. And one opportunity is to not participate in the most horrific & cruel act of violence this planet has ever known.
The Miley one always cracks me up - as if reducing the copious pot use wouldn’t have substantially helped her cognitive function LOL
I’m certified in plant based nutrition - within the studies we discovered that there are those who are gluten intolerant, but it goes beyond that. One thing the studies have yet to dive into are bacterial and viral loads. Someone who has celiac disease actually just had a bacterial or viral load overgrowth - it feeds off the gluten and it’s neurotoxins cause disease. Modern science calls this an autoimmune disorder - the body attacking itself in many cases; this is what they say when they don’t really know that’s going on. If someone has brain fog, that’s usually neurotoxins from the Epstein Barr virus (EBV). EBV will feed off of: heavy metals like mercury from fish, eggs, gluten, GMO soy and corn. Most people don’t have overgrowth so they can tolerate these foods, however others can have chronic illness that modern science has yet to unravel. Source: NYT Best selling author, Medical Medium. If more got educated on the information they’d never have to leave veganism; instead they could learn how to knock down the viral loads and live a healthy life with the least amount of impact on others.
You are so silly! That was a good one!😅
yep and the mental health decline following her divorce
Veganism is more damaging to brain function than pot.
I guess the people without a plan have less success. Same goes for every other aspect in their lives.
Don't wing it! 🐓😉
Meat is meat as far as health impact. Same with birds, fish, eggs, dairy products. It doesn't matter how they're treated, which is a moral factor on top of the health impacts.
There are plenty of professional science backed long term studies and successful vegans gaining muscle, having life changing health for the better. 🌱😉
I think they just have mental health issues cause their entire life is build around their YT channel and an online presence. It seems that going from one extreme to the next is one of the only ways to stay relevant in this buisness and knowing how dissociated someone can be from the real world by living on the internet, it makes a lot of sense why these channels exist. Let's be real, if you got health issues, the one time you eat animal products isn't actually cleansing you of that. But it certainly helps your view count if you make a video about it and sell bullshit.
Because every ex vegan was a content creator with an online presence, right? Can't just be regular people, of course
@@keifer7813 I was talking about content creators, not every ex vegan in the entire world. I was also very clear on that, so maybe work on your reading comprehension.
@@kenzovich9225 Well the video was about ex vegans and your point about health issues is not specific to context creators. So no, it wasn't very clear who exactly you were referring to
@@keifer7813 It was about ex vegans who go on the internet to talk about themselves being ex vegan. I only added that they do it for the view count and creating their own bubble on the internet to cope with their hypocrisy.
Which part made you think that i was talking about random people, who aren't on the internet?
It's all about monetized video clicks and jumping on the latest trends. It's amazing how many youtube MDs pump out videos for supplemental income. How can a full time physician even have time to coordinate, edit and plan videos? So theatrics is part of it. I don't believe these content creators even do what they promote most of the time.
Reason #1: They weren't vegan for the animals(did it for personal health reasons)
Reason #2: Ignorant about nutrition
Reason #3: "Convenience"
The problem, for the vegan movement, is that there's no contractual element involved in beginning a 100% PB diet &, therefore, no requirement to seek permission to quit. The Vegan Inquisitors have no sanctions available to them!
It's obviously not healthy as you say. Do you hate yourself so much that u wanna make yourself sick?
@Radical Ponder 👍Catch 22! You need to prove your sanity before being permitted to "go vegan" but going vegan is considered to be an insane thing to do.😵💫😄🤣
Or they woke up to the lies of veganism.
@@NevilleWran6666 trump lost dingus
Have been vege/vegan for over 50 years. Am far healthier than my surviving siblings and most of my surviving cousins. I have always been the only vege/vegan in my family. I really don’t understand the difficulty. Being vegan is so easy. Have never found it difficult. If it is not vegan it isn’t food, simple.
Would you agree that anyone who eat or uses animal products intentionally and needlessly isn't vegan?
Yeah maybe not everyone is like you genius
Anecdotal claims not really something to base diet choices on however.
@@NevilleWran6666 that’s very true. I am an ethical vegan, health benefits are just a bonus. Reading studies NOT funded by the animal agriculture industry, support how much healthier a vegan diet is. So win win.
@@NevilleWran6666 anecdotes are all carnivores have. Oh and heart disease.
These people were never real vegans to begin with. There were not in for the animals, they were in either as a trendy experiment or for their health or whatever. They were also never fully informed, transformed and at home with veganism as a life style. That is why we see them constantly yell about how veganism was difficult, impractical, impossible, radical, imbalanced, insufficient, dangerous etc, etc. The morals and ethics of veganism are hardly ever mentioned, and if so mostly by regurgitating meat industry's long debunked claims of veganism being bad for the planet because a, b or c. But 99% of their talk is about how they "regained health, strength and energy" by eating dead animals stuffed with medication again. Ex-vegans are trending because they validate carnivore's biases and help them silence their guilty conscience. And, of course, they know that they will trigger these points and receive a very warm welcome-back from the carnivores, because they help each other feel less guilty. Veganism is still on the rise, however, and it is the lifestyle of the future. The planet and the animals are still two major issues and they are still two of three main reasons (health being the third) why more and more people are waking up and making a change. Nothing and noone, including the trendy ex-vegans, can stop us now.
It's funny, when they come out as vegans they are welcomed with open arms, proudly presented as high-status members of the vegan communities. When they quit and explain why it was not maintainable for them, "These people were never real vegans to begin with". And this is why people see the veganism more like a cult then a beneficial diet.
That part about salmon inducing a wet dream was hilarious 😂
No it is sad and poorely... and that is all it is...
Lol yep it was hilarious. Not something to brag about in public if you are polite. He’ll give granny a heart attack.
Enjoy this one. The human brain is sixty percent fat and twenty percent cholesterol. Neither of which you can get from vegetables. Don't starve it.
@@pepper419Your liver makes all the cholesterol you need. Give it a Google. You don’t need dietary cholesterol, that just leads to heart disease. ❤
😂😂 I can sortaaa relate because I was vegan for a few years and then ate one egg and the next day got my period after not having it for about 3 months. (And don’t tell me it’s about calories because one egg is like 80 calories)
I’ve been vegan for 17 years. The only health issue I had was low iron. Which I also had as a non-vegan. These people were never vegan but instead plant-based dieters with a low key eating disorder. 🙂
It only took you 3 words to start lying.
You literally use animal products needlessly just like everyone else here.
No need to play pretend.
👍👍👍
I also had low iron before going vegan but actually never had low iron again, lentils changed everything. I know you also can change the amount of iron your body absorb from eating lentils by associating with lemon for example (water and lemon for me)
U do know more animals are killed in making the vegan crops from the Polly tunnels to Farmers having to kill of all the local wildlife because the crops grown for vegans are highly attractive to pests. The fact that you fly in all your food from 100s of miles away.
That having more fields ploughed leads to alot more carbon emissions because how much is stored in the ground.
Or that the methane cows release is net 0 along with the fact methane isn't a pollutant that needs to be worried about. We're part of a natural food chain we're made to need animal products.
Cows enjoy being milked, sheep need to be sheered otherwise they'll die of heat exhaustion.
Who do you think maintains our beautiful landscapes farmers yeh and they need to make money if it's not used for farming the lands going to just disappear for other purposes ruining our landscape
@J Slice Exactly. The "No True Scotsman" fallacy.
I've been vegan for 11.5 years, and have been poor as hell for most of that time.
Anyone can do it, you just.habe to care enough to try when things get tough.
You just habe eh?
You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment.
No need to make things up.
@@janieswanson2549 sorry I can't spell.
And I only use humans for entertainment.
@@zenape619 You use animal products needlessly for entertainment.
Being in denial doesn't change that.
I accept your concession since you can't refute me.
Watch Out Janie Swanson is back in the comments gonna debunk all of our vegan asses with her expertise 😂😂 must be a troll in disguise as a Karen
@@janieswanson2549 Perpetual troll. It's so obvious when an omnivore is threatened by the vegan lifestyle. Why should you care unless you have some deep-seated guilt about consuming animal products.😉
I’m still vegan. Why do I care about these people? They don’t care about me 😂
A bunch of people with the means to consult a plant based doctor or program to help them but decide to just be ignorant and make excuses.
Straight up.
Those people were never "vegan"
They are, always have been clout chasers, nothing more.
Just like everyone else here claiming to be "vegan."
Everyone here uses animal products needlessly for entertainment pleasure.
I am happy to say I have never been vegan.
Yes, there are people who were die hard vegans who changed their diet, mostly due to declining health. Initially, many doubled down on their vegan diets and tried harder, but they continued to deteriorate. They have benefited from adding a little animal protein (a complete protein). Some people can manage a fully vegan diet and maintain their health for the long term if they live in the right climate, own their own land, have access to local markets or shops like Trader Joe's, and/or have the finances to support them on their fully vegetable, fruit, grain, and supplement diet. However, just because some have altered their diet to address their health problems doesn't mean they were never vegan. Actually, many still avoid meat but may eat cheese and eggs, etc. Everyone's healthy considerations are unique.
I agree in a sense many were
looking for a niche to make money.
If you don't believe in what you sell
failure follows.
@@carollen5601 Very true. Most people are trying to turn their channels into income streams.
Love that you said "Plant-Based Dieters" in the title, PBN, because that's all they ever were -- at best.
Every member of a cult says the same thing about those who leave.
@@BlackPrimeMinister Funny how many heard someone say veganism is a cult and just repeat it like drones in comment sections without understanding what veganism is and what cults are, let alone how to explain how one is the other.
@@thebowandbullet Every cult member says "I'm not in a cult!" until they leave. It is a new experiment. This is undeniable. How presumptuous of you to think you understand dietary requirements better than Native Americans, ancient Africans and all traditional people, NONE of whom were vegan. That's why I know I'm right and you are wrong. It's as simple as that.
@@BlackPrimeMinister Your reply proves my point perfectly. Thank you.
@@thebowandbullet As usual, refuse to engage with the subject of the argument to avoid cognitive dissonance. When you eventually quit like all the rest, you will then admit you were wrong. Laughable.
Wow. I also started eating wfpb after reading The China Study at my doctor's insistence. I then saw some factory farming footage, so now eat wfpb for the animals as well as health reasons. It helps me to have multiple reasons. I don't always do it perfectly, but am still trying.
The China Study has been proven to be a farce many, many times.
When I hear “when I was vegan” I like to replace it with “when I was against animal exploitation, abuse, and suffering.” Then to say “now that I’m no longer vegan” means “now that I’m no longer against animal exploitation, abuse, and suffering.” I can’t imagine that actually happening to a person. I don’t think any of these people were ever vegan.
Exactly
as a vegetarian... not eating meat doesnt give you moral superiority
exactly. Ex-vegan is an oxymoron
You underestimate the flexibility of human psychology. Nazi Germany as an example
Not to mention a lot of the examples in the video appear to be particularly flighty people
If an influencer is chasing a bigger following, a sure-fire way to do that is to be pumping out material which makes the biggest number of people feel good about their bad habits.
Sadly this is very true. 👍
Bingo.
Like vegans! All vegans.
So true
Klaus, you're a total boss. Thank you for the consistency, for the solid representation, and for the high-quality content. I've been vegan for about eight years and I ran my first three marathons ever all in this past year and I still eat some vegan ice cream. I'm mostly WFPB, but I still have some junk food from time to time. 🤷 Human! Feelin better than ever though. It's hard to go against the societal current, I think that's the crux of the matter for these ex-vegans. The passion in realizing what happens to animals fades and what they had been eating previously is still pushed so enticingly by the industry, but I'm not them, so who knows. What I do know is vegan is so much better. 🌱💚💯🤘🏼
I've been vegan for 12 years. I researched how to maintain my health by taking Vitamin B-12 and D3 and now I take an algae based EPA/DHA for my Omegas. My arthritis disappeared, my aches and pains disappeared. My son went vegan and now they can't find any signs of his Ulcerative Colitis. I also care about animals and once I learned about how we raise animals for "food" - I stopped eating animal products. I've never been sorry.
You use animal products. No point in lying about being "vegan."
It's good that you admit that only plant based diets aren't good for you since you decided to start supplementing to make up for what you lack.
@@janieswanson2549 40% meat eaters worldwide are also B12 deficient and FYI, a majority of all supplements are sold to meat eaters. Vegans don't use supplements made with gelatin capsules. If you go to most supplement health store you have to search for the vegan capsules to get vegan supplements, so obviously non vegans use a majority of supplements that do not say vegan or vegetarian capsule on their bottles. Also DHA from Fish oils is extremely popular product so don't tell me that meat eaters don't use them... Most people need to supplement with something now days to achieve optimal health. These are no reasons to argue or fight with a person who is making a dietary health choice for whatever reason. You do you but don't say these stupid arguments and think you're winning some war. That's so sad.
@@janieswanson2549supplementing for the lack of nutrients in the soil is fine. Even carnivores need lithium and magnesium, it isn't in the soil.
If you have to take supplements then it isn't a sustainable diet or a natural diet for that matter. If we can live as vegans by taking supplements then you can for sure make the argument that we should in order to reduce suffering. But don't claim the diet itself actually works. A diet only works if it requires zero supplements.
U eat like my grandma
As others have already mentioned in the comment section, I think that this transition back to a carnivore diet is due to the influencers' (often) narcissistic nature. For them, veganism was not about the animals nor the environment, but about themselves.
As you mention in the video, the vegan influencers often combine their diet with peculiar "sub-diets" like raw food (how can that still be popular BTW?). I think many influencers are just looking for as long a "title" as possible, to "be the most unique one" and therefore the most "interesting" person/influencer. As if they have an internal competition going on.
It is also noteworthy (as the video also covers) that the influencers transition back to a meat diet is rarely a flexitarian diet, with a supplement of meat. These ex-vegan influencers often take it to an extreme where they almost ONLY eat meat.
ONE IMPORTANT NOTE ABOUT INFLUENCERS, is that they run a business. Their primary purpose is NOT to share knowledge about vegan diets that is based on scientific facts. Therefore, I think we should focus more on referring people to reputable sources, RUclipsrs and such, if they want to get more information about veganism, rather than fancy influencers.
every Vegan is doing it for themselves. The animals don't care. They would eat you if they could. Veganism can't improve the environment because the environment is built on th circle of life. There is no organic regenerative farming without cattle, because cattle plays an essential role in the circle of a plant's life.
Same as being vegan is about yourself. You get to feel good about yourself doing the "right" thing.
@@izoobal I used to hate vegetables and had a gag reflex eating beans before becoming vegan.
I had to stomach that torture for 1 month and a half where everything I ate tasted like shit. So no, it's not about ourselves.
Eventually my taste buds or gut bacteria changed and it became even more tasty than what I was used to, but I was determined to live my whole live like that and you know why? Because of the sheer disgust I felt once I watched some animal footage videos and saw them screaming and despairing. I can not partake into that.
@@samvega4648going to a slaughter house changed my opinion on eating meat.Horrendous experience.
Anyone who comes out of a slaughter house and isn't affected is a lunatic imo.
@@izoobal Actually,its'about the animals, but also needs to be about yourself. Whereas the carni mentality is about "ME".
Excellent review. Disordered eating contributes to a lot of this. They want to get away from "labels", yet they use grass fed, free range and cage free nonsense. None of these people consulted plant based doctors or nutrition experts.
Great video. When people assume I’m weak on a vegan diet, I’ll ask how many marathons they have done. None? I’ve done five and feel great! Stay strong and eat lots of beans!
You hero 😂😂😂
But most marathon runners eat meat, so what is your point?
@@NevilleWran6666 Exactly, that's the point. Vegan or not, it doesn't matter with proper training.
@@nmoyer Yep, steak is my preferred protien.
@@NevilleWran6666 are you slow? The point is he's able to do it.
I have been vegetarian for 50+ years and vegan in the last few. It happened when they killed my calf. The doctor in the family said that I would die. My whole family died instead, all of cancer in the following ten years. I have always thought I was spared because of help from the animals.
I always wandered if my dad died of a rare pancreas cancer because of his cheese indulgence. What types of cancer did your family die from ?
@@Tanouuuu breast, bone, and probably colon ( too advanced ).
Only the good die young.
All the Vegans seem to live for ever?
@@IvyMay-qn2ys Very true: all the animals people eat die young!💛🙏🏼🐾
I turned vegetarian after working near 2 slaughterhouses in Southeast PA. Seeing those cattle and pig haulers coming through our pattern every 2 minutes with the animals thrashing around and screaming inside those trailers was absolutely horrifying and heartbreaking to me! I had trouble driving home from work the one day
I really appreciate this rebuttal. Very informative, great advice with terrific tips. Thank you so much
In my view the majority of these people never ate a healthy. balanced, whole foods predominant diet. If they actually cared about animals they’d have done it properly. I’d certainly have been willing to advise them for free as would plenty of other nutrition professionals, I’d wager. They basically didn’t give a shit, so they never asked or looked into it. And they wouldn’t have thrown the animals under the bus to protect their egos either. Wastes of space
You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment from the same animals normal people eat.
Thanks for admitting by your own logic that you are a waste of space.
I'd be willing to advise them for fr$$.
@@lashedbutnotleashed1984I’m sorry that those who are not cruel to animals make you feel uncomfortable and feel the need to lash out childishly. Bless ya
@@HenchHerbivore Hench, my friend. I am a zoologist and I love animals because I understand them as they truly are. Vegans like you do not understand them in the slightest, instead thinking of them as four-legged humans that smell funny. No, they are what they are, and no amount of humanizing them will turn them into people. The vegan "love" of animals is totally fake and based on their own narcissism. It has nothing to do with the animals. It's nothing more than a way to pat yourselves on the back and feel vindicated.
this brother is based ❤
it is all about whole food-plant based nutrition! Never looked back. I'll draw my blood against any meat eater. Ready, set, draw.
LOL
If you're a vegan, you'd better not have too much blood drawn. You will probably pass out.
@@Ella.L. your a blind fool. 100% American. Are you the 99%? Yes! or the 1% Big pharma has got your back later on when you need the pills. Blood don't lie and I know for a fact that my blood draw would embarrass anyone who consumes meat and dairy. Guaranteed.
I am happily eat my steak and watch you do whatever you want.
@@NevilleWran6666 Big AG is ruining the earth and your health. Big AG is power in Washington and you trust that scenario? Their wealth comes before your health!!! It is known for 50 years that meat and dairy is causing a multitude of health issues. Typical American attitude, not us? Our way is the only way and we refuse to open our eyes and look at reality. America does not like reality. Fools with no morals or conscious. You probably throw trash out your car window too. Ready, set, blood draw.... You certainly are going to have health issues and continue to add to the health issues with your stupidity.
Like most religous cults there are people who escape it and try to live a happy life afterwards.
@grumbeard Yes, there are many who are able to escape the animal-sacrifice meat lust cult and live in vibrant health for the rest of their lives. They are people who are not trend-following sheep, but pioneers who truly evolve past carnism, and enjoy the health benefits of a wfpb diet and evolved ethics.
@@CtheForestthroughtheTrees Wow, is that you pastor Mike? Damn, reincarnation is real, that wasn't written in the bible. It seems you have picked up a new religeon on your way back here. Not too much has changed though. You are just following a budhist trend like a good budhist sheep. The only thing that sets you apart is a different diet that you have elevated to religous hights. You are nothing special nor nothing better, you just have a different diet.
Miley quit smoking weed that’s certainly made a difference to her brain function 😅
😂😂😂
I'm a daily weed smoker and have had 0 issues with my brain function. I'm pretty sure she just didn't plan well or at all lol
Omg. Going vegan made me realize how strong I really am. Once I saw how easy and lifechanging it was for me, followed by observing others acknowledging it is the right choice, but not being open to living in alignment with their own morals because of social pressure and addiction shows me how weak they are.
Meat makes us go weak at the knees. Yummy.
It's not a matter of weakness, it's a matter of discipline. Vegan diet is more work. Especially for families. I would
suggest a vegetarian diet instead, whereby fish and eggs are included.
I do fine with a vegan diet, and lots
of homemade meatless alternatives.
@@carollen5601 I will stick with my cow, it is made of grass after all.
@@NevilleWran6666 Yeah, it's been proven to be noxious to the body over time, so that makes sense about your knees what with the inflammation and all. Take care of them knees! It's a shame you don't feel empathy for the pain cows go through, but maybe some day you will.🤞🏼 Maybe consider getting a blood test and take care.
@@NevilleWran6666 Dude, maybe just stick to the plants then and do the next generation a favor.
A very useful overview of these people. Glad you chose to support your points with medical opinion. Being an internet influencer is also a recent social phenomenon, wherein mostly young people put themselves forward with strong views. Young people often try on different lifestyles and in each of these phases is absolutely convinced it is the right and only way. We've known that about young people for a long time but the internet makes this previously accepted young people behaviour into a crime. Young people are heavily influenced by who they are with, who they believe in, and so if their companions change, their opinions might change too. I think we should not be investing too much of our own lives based on younger people's opinions, until they mature they will often change their minds. However, some young people stick to their vegan commitment, which is wonderful, as a vegan I agree 100% with doing that. It's just important to think about how the internet and their age and stage of life was probably a part of this. Great topic Klaus!
It’s hard sometimes realizing how many people don’t care about animals even though they say they do but glad to see certain people do care and show it with their actions
Yeah, I believe if you eat animals, you shouldn’t call yourself an animal lover you’re just a species. Not you, but I’m talking about those others that say they love animals, but they will eat a dead cow.
@@blindbookworm8019I take it you’re not a big fan of Steve Irwin .
@@rogersepeda I didn’t watch him enough. I don’t know much about him.
@@blindbookworm8019 well he loved animals and even risked his life to save animals like crocodiles but he wasn’t vegan .what are your thoughts on someone like that ?
The problem with most of these people is they don't get enough calories. Not enough calories leads to deficiency. Pretty simple. I've eaten a vegan diet for 18 years.
I think it is difficult for most people to care about the animals long term. Feelings rarely last. Self interest is a much stronger motivator long term.
> The problem with most of these people is they don't get enough calories.
I agree. Almost all my adult life I've been ~140lbs, so I never thought I needed to 'count calories' -- that was something only fat people needed to do. But I was wrong. I almost have to force myself to clock at least 1,500 cals/day.
@@rabbitcreative yea for sure
If you went vegan for the animals, it’s hard to quit being vegan. Thank the universe that is why I’m vegan.
@@ConGamePro there are a small portion of the population with that amount of empathy for animals. I personally don't have a lot. I would have no issue on a moral level killing and eating an animal. My issue is I would prefer to limit my risk of cancer and heart disease, so I will never eat an animal unless I was literally dying of starvation after not eating for a week
@@benjones5799 nice chap you are
I became vegan in part because of that Tim bloke and I would thank him for that.But I will never willingly go back to eating animals
I think my only reservation with the idea of working with doctors and even dieticians can be that their training can be animal product based (and many doctors have staggeringly little nutrition training). I once chatted with one of the NHS dieticians who worked with my late mother and she told that they are NOT ALLOWED to reccomend vegetarian or vegan diets! Despite knowing that it was better, she wasn't permitted by the UK's major health organisation to promote a plant-based lifestyle! I found that very worrying!
So glad you said that!! Interesting because the BDA supports it.
My daughter is seeing a dietician and she's bloody awful!
@@panes840Father was dying of pancreatic cancer, no chemo. Every time he ate fried eggs, chicken, he was vomiting. Cooked vegan for him for a week, using the John Hopkins diet for pancreatic (similar to diabetic, pancreatitis, and gout recommendations). So he could enjoy fresh oil added, rather than fried, and his pancreas did not overreact as it did with fried foods.
But no one else was willing to adapt with him, and the hospice doctor had no food advice, just " your dying, eat ehat you want." They completely ignored his reactions to the fried foods, vomiting, etc. He lived in the Midwest.
Thank you for your GREAT JOB. I HIGHLY APPRECIATE. Keep strong VEGAN BROTHER. WE, the Vegan activists, have to be strong facing the ignorance and a poor excuses for the absolutely atrocious bestiality🤗😽🌿🌾✔️
There is little to no tolerance or consideration for the individual health needs or conditions of others. If someone who was formally a vegan for 3, 8, 12 years but finds they are having deteriorating health issues and add even a little animal protein to their diet, they become heretics and are told they were "never" vegan and they were "doing it wrong." It's a ridiculous notion that ironically lacks the compassion that so many vegans like to think they possess. Some simply do not do well on this diet -that is the nature of individual differences.
I don't think ignorance is the issue
anymore, there are plenty on vegan info.
Perhaps it's just too much work for some. In the beginning had to get
organized, get all types of vegan recipes
revamp my kitchen with necessary kitchen gadgets for processing.
Then after a 6 months to a year, it
started being routine. Now it's much
easier. One thing to always remember you can never have an empty pantry when on Vegan diet. Single people
do have a problem there.
@@carollen5601 Mostly people are just happy eating healthy meat.
@@NevilleWran6666 meat is a not healthy, they just like the taste and are socially conditioned.
Meat is moral and healthy.
Convenience and social pressure lead to forgetting the horror the animals go through and somehow make up stories.
I never forget.
I never forget how many delicious animals we can choose from
@@rondarkman.Tiens, le même con encore!
@@rondarkman. Yes, like dogs, cats and rats. Very yummilious.
@@ponnamy don't know don't eat em
@@ponnamy
If you can't tell the difference between a chicken and a dog, i am afraid there is no cure for this. And there will never be
These Videos should be labelled 'Never Really Vegan'. I do not believe there is any such thing as an Ex-Vegan. End of Story.
No disrespect, that is the no true Scotsman fallacy.
You can see how calm and collected those ex-vegans are. While vegans are emotionally motivated and angry.
@@callumweaver1654 it js
@@derbykirby3627 calm and collected? More like crazy and pretentious
@VeganWarrior69 Exactly they are ex-plant based. Veganism is Not a diet, Vegans don't turn their backs on the Animals they are fighting for.
I was especially disappointed about Cosmic Skeptic, because “seafood” is slowly suffocated to death when it’s hauled out of the water. Of all the animal flesh humans consume, that’s probably the most cruel.
I love seafood was up in North Queensland last week had a platter of prawns,bugs,oysters and salmon, everything that happened to these seafood was worth it for my taste.
I'm flying down to Tasmania soon and trying their local seafood products I can't wait
Goes to show Cosmic Skeptic never cared, it was all just a show.
No - religious slaughter is the most cruel - but you never see leftards campaigning against Halal or Kosher where animals are cruelly bled to death - because that would upset some of their protected groups.
Another thing to mention about plant exclusive children is that some
may seem "stunted" with their growth compared to their peers before or around puberty (because most children are getting large amounts of growth hormones from animal meat or from dairy consumption)
Then after puberty hits, the children who has continued to eat plants, they grow to the same or larger size then other children.
My question is, of all these RUclipsrs which ones are secretly taking money from the Animal Agricultural Industries?
Probably none, they just woke up to the fact their bodies started feeling like sh*t on the 'healthiest diet' 😅
My question is, of all these vegan RUclipsrs which ones are secretly taking money from the pharmaceutical Industry, the most corrupt and profitable industry on earth?
The answer is no. They just prioritize their health
@@Мария-н9п7рextreme diets aren't a means to health, so that's not it. WFPD is not extreme in the slightest, it was the easiest thing for me to do in order to improve my health. I think if these folks focused on the dietary guidelines that have been in place for decades instead of jumping on fads like paleo or raw food only or other such nonsense they'd understand that whole foods, mostly plants, not too much is about 95% there to a full vegan diet. That last 5% is easy. B12 and algae omega 3s can be bought with the money I saved on buying meat.
Nothing unsustainable or extreme about a well planned vegan diet, but even going mostly vegan is better than those flat earth carnivore types.
Jon Venus used his child as a silly excuse to not be vegan anymore…why would he not be vegan if it was just about his kid?
Why do you use animal products intentionally and needlessly for entertainment while pretending to be against it?
From past experience with you, I predict you will evade the question consistently with nonsense and justifications instead of answering truthfully, directly, and factually.
I will go ahead and accept your concession now since we both know you will never answer directly.
Because he doesn't want his kid to follow in his footsteps and grow up weak and anemic like other vegan kids.
Because he does not want his kid to think veganism is healthy, when it is super unhealthy
@@janieswanson2549
I don’t eat animals, dairy or eggs…I don’t wear animals skins, fur or feathers…and I don’t do animal testing…can you say the same?
@@GarudaLegends
If veganism is “unhealthy” then how did Dr Ellsworth Wareham live to be 104 year old by living the last fifty years of his life as a vegan?
I don't know why I am watching this when I am hungry and waiting to eat food. I am not a Vegan and never will be. I believe that people have been so far removed from the food supply that they don't understand.
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Let me tell you my experience… after being vegan for many years, I went back to eating meat in 2022, bcuz I thought a high protein diet would give me the tone I trained for and desired. By the end of 2022, I’d gained 10 pounds and my thigh cellulite had increased. Went back plant-based for new year and I’m building back better! Lost the weight effortlessly. Thighs are shaping up too. I can’t believe I doubted this lifestyle.
So you think health means not having any fat on you? Being rail thin is healthy suddenly? If you're a woman you need a certain fat percentage on your body in order to carry a child and be healthy. But hey carry on, it's your life
You are assuming she is rail thin. She never said that or indicated it.@@Crysalis-bd9so
Been vegan for almost 8 years now … I’ve learned everyone’s biology is different. After about 5 to 6 years I noticed I was struggling with heavier endurance activities and started doing research, there are certain nutrients that are harder to absorb from plant sources especially if you let your diet get a little sloppy time to time. Naturally if you’re doing heavier endurance you should be watching nutrients regardless because you are depleting them quickly and deficiencies exist for people on all types of diets especially if you drink caffeine and alcohol etc. I played with a lot of supplements experimenting and I’m at a point where I can confidently say I’ve found the dietary support I needed and feel great again! Just did a trail race a few weeks ago with only two months training and took a 3rd place and the winner happened to be plant based as well, I’m also 40 this year so it felt really good haha! Here is a list of things to look into, I’m not saying someone needs to take all of these things especially if their diet is really healthy but investigate them because it’s not uncommon to struggle with a couple of these (on many different diets): B12/B complex, Creatine, Taurine, Iron, calcium/magnesium, Zinc, K2, D3, algae based Omegas, collagen support (Irish sea moss for smoothies), if you struggle with vitamin A conversion it can be an issue for some on a plant based diet .. anyhow if you are feeling crappy on the diet and don’t want to quit, you have the option to see if a supplement can make you 180 if your biology struggles with absorption or production of a couple of them. Regardless of your diet choice I wish you happiness and health ☺️ take care of yourselves.
If you have to supplement then it isn't a proper diet.
That goes equally for all people who need supplements on a omnivorous, carnivorous, or plants only diet.
You literally use animal products needlessly.
No point in lying about being "vegan."
idk anything about irish sea moss but you can just supplement the amino acid glycin from a vegan source
1/3 of collagen is made from it but it's healthier & more effective than collagen👍🏻
This is what they say generally, after 5-7 years there is downfall as vegan in terms of health
Klaus, please cover the new IPCC's report. As Mic the Vegan pointed out, a lot as been left out. This matter needs more coverage because the meat industry successfully blocked the attempt for the IPCC to recommend a plant based diet. Thank you!
The Ag Industry at work ! Agriculture causes 25% of the greenhouse gases...our earth is dying and our grandkids are the ones who will suffer because us older folks could not stop the gas and ag industries.
You should asked Mic about his kid and the diet he had it on...
Long story short, it didn't end well for his kid.
We posted an article about this Aniceto! You can read it here: plantbasednews.org/opinion/opinion-piece/ipcc-report-key-points-vegan-foods-animal-farming/
@@janieswanson2549 how do we know it was the vegan diet for Mic and his kid? I don't have a strong opinion because it wasn't my life and I wasn't there.
EAT, MOVE REST and their YT channel havechad x2 successful pregnancies and kids are throving but the haters hate and try to say shirty things.
Humans are vile.
3:34 that is not a placebo effect. That is your brain treating you because you finally gave it what it yearned for and it wants you to repeat it again and again.
This is so sad. I don't think I could ever go back after physically feeling the animals' pain and crying each time I see a cruel video of animals suffering
Don’t worry, you will eat meat again.
@@longevitycoach1573I haven’t and won’t and I’m 6”3 220lb heavy highway construction worker! I’m proud of not eating meat but also don’t look down on others for doing so. I changed after doing some work on a kill floor in a beef plant as an outside contractor. It was the most horrifying and despicable thing I’ve ever witnessed. Beyond heartbreaking
humans have been predominantly vegan/vegetarian since our beginning. That is fact
Nope. We have been eating animal foods for millions of years. Proven by anthropological studies.
@@lashedbutnotleashed1984 Why do you hate animals so?
Yes. There were cave paintings of ppl throwing spears at lettuce and broccoli.😂
@@Siegfried5846 Why would you make such a silly statement? Are straw man arguments your only means of debate? I am a zoologist who has been studying animals for many years and I know all about them. I like them because I understand them. I like them on their own terms. You think you like them because you do not understand them and think of them as hairy human beings with 4 legs. That is disrespectful to the animals. The more you understand animals, the more you will understand their place in nature.
@@GarudaLegends That's like saying that the man of today travels to space to fight Thanos with the avengers
Dr. Matthew Nagra had great points, I appreciate that he mentions studies but more so was impressed with his factual, though pretty much common sense, arguments...that I never thought of. I would love to hear more from him. Thanks for a great video!
He is fantastic. You can find more of him on Instagram by just searching his name! He produces amazing and educational content.
Hens and chickens are much smarter than people give them credit for and make charming, interesting and affectionate companion animals, they should not be abused and mistreated, I absolutely love getting to know my neighbours' hens and observing their behaviour and different personalities and feel privileged when they let me hold and pet them.
I went vegan a few years ago and ended up with kidney stones. Plant based diets contain high amount of oxalates.
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I think the community relied too much on these influencers. We have to remember that someone starting or stopping a diet that did not work for them is not science. You need researchers with multiple subjects and a clinical controlled trial for it to be true science
> You need researchers with multiple subjects and a clinical controlled trial for it to be true science
I disagree. When I benchmark a piece of software, and record my results, I'm doing 'science'.
As a longterm vegan holistic health coach, I come across people and content about being "a former/ex vegan" ALL the time. I correct the terminology first: vegans are committed to a full lifetime of avoiding violence and harm if/when possible, whereas a person eating plant-based for their health may choose to do so temporarily. The first is on an ethical/moral (and often spiritual) path in consideration of the victims of violence, while the second is focused on self only. 38 years without meat, and 14+ years vegan, and I continue to thrive, shattering the beliefs and accusations of my haters and critics. BE the example, go vegan and stay vegan. Keep defining the terms we use correctly to dissolve the confusion on the topic: veganism isn't a diet or a fad.
"vegans are committed to a full lifetime of avoiding violence and harm if/when possible"
And yet here you are using animal products needlessly for entertainment pleasure that are "possible and practicable" to avoid.
@@Ollieya945 I see you missed the definition of veganism. Try again. Plant based eating, for some, can be a fad. That is not veganism.
@@mamaveelove I see you missed the definition of "veganism."
It's both possible and practicable to stop using animal products needlessly for entertainment.
YT is an entertainment platform.
Animal based stearic acid (livestock tallow) and animal based activated carbon (livestock bones) are the industry standard in processor manufacturing.
How did you comment without using something with a processor? Smoke signals?
Just another person who derives more worth from the claim than the actual practice.
@@janieswanson2549 did you mean to reply to me, or the fad diet person wo commented under me? See my original comment and thread for clarification.
longterm vegan here, helping to educate.
@@mamaveelove Yes I meant to reply to you.
If you read my comment then you would know you use animal products intentionally and needlessly for entertainment.
The definition adds to that in the case of you using animal products that are "possible and practicable" to avoid.
That literally means you're not "vegan."
Glad I could educate.
I am have been vegan for twelve years and before I was vegetarian and I feel great I am 62 years old
I've been vegan for like 8, 9 years? i don't even know. Seriously this kind of stuff is just SUPER SUPER SILLY. Look it is really, really really EASY to be vegan. I understand some people have issues, and there are ways around that, but i understand people can struggle. Practicality in general can also be a giant huge big deal i also understand that. But for the most part, and for like, let's say, 8 out of 10 people, it is really easy. Here you go, how to go vegan:
1: Don't follow fad diets. 2: Have some variety. Doesn't even need to be much honestly. 3: Eat fortified foods or take something like a multi vitamin once in a while. You're probably already taking it anyway. 4: Eat what you like. Don't be an idiot, don't be afraid of sauces or particular foods or whatever, i don't know, there's so much stupid information out there. Food is food. It's that easy. And when i say "food is food" i mean it. You're not gona die and you're not gona turn into superman either. There are no magic foods, no magic ingridients.
I don't think there's much more to it to be honest.
Fortunately I've never heard of, let alone followed, any of those influencers. My "followings" are heavily based on the scientists and medicos who have done the research, maintain the effort, or, report on the research. And yeah, never vegans in the first place once you *know* what animals suffer. Such a fly-by-night attitude to animal cruelty on an industrial scale shows, frankly, what intellectual lightweights they are. I do think it's hard, though not impossible, to sustain a raw food diet unless you live in the tropics, so, yes, there can indeed be a lot of work in some vegan diets. But finally I would challenge anyone to find doctors around any street corner who will help you with your vegan diet. We are largely on our own there, in my experience in Australia
I think that these people were most definitely deficient in something and not looking after their personal health the way they could have been. It’s super disappointing watching them go down like flies after a certain number of years. I hate hearing those “I’m no longer vegan” stories from massive celebrities. But on we go, the ones who keep going. I’m coming in to my 8th year, could my health be better? Most definitely! But I take that into my own hands with cleaner eating, and sometimes supplements. No need to put it on the animals. I’m the healthiest I’ve ever been, but always room for improvement
Celebs with unlimited resources can't get veganism right? It's most likely the diet.
I suffered from metabolic syndrome (obesity, high cholesterol, high triglycerides, and high blood sugar). I went whole food plant based no sugar oil or salt and I lost 65 pounds, all my conditions greatly improved, my gums stopped bleeding, and erections and energy returned. I used to have an appetite that was never satisfied; whole foods cured it. I no longer use a sleep apnea machine. Finally, the food is cheap-Beans, lentils, rice, potatoes and seasonal apples. Also, I save money by not having to buy pills or visit the Doctor. I am thankful to all the vegans who suffered attacks to reveal the truth to me.
I know I went a year occasionally eating dairy and it felt (uck) during my 7 year vegan journey. However after taking a class and getting certified to be a nutrition and health vegan coach, I realized I was doing it wrong. Because I was on a JUNK FOOD vegan diet... I was eating junk. Now I went back and I feel like heaven on earth again!
Thank you Klaus, for another great video. Veganism is not a fad diet, it is an ethical stance against animal exploitation. These people were never vegan, you become vegan for the animals, NOT for your health. But saying that, a plant based diet is the healthiest there is. When I went vegan for the animals, I didn't realise the incredible & positive effect, it would have on my health. I reversed heart disease, type 2 diabetes, hypertension & lowered my BMI from 36 to 23!
I feel like the cutting out dairy and eggs thing is a tad bit extremist. Bulls do not respect your rights, and chickens don’t either.
I’m 70 and have been vegan for over 15 years. I’m healthier than I’ve ever been. I weight train three times a week, and the only medication I have to take is thyroxine because I had my thyroid removed 30 years ago. I didn’t even do it for my health, but it has been a happy accident. There is absolutely no excuse to not eat plant based, especially when you see the horror of animal agriculture. There is no ethical way to eat flesh, or milk or eggs.
There is more horror in plant agriculture . Animals are killed to protect the crops that you eat. You are eating a living thing that actually screams when you eat it. That living thing you eat has defense mechanism to it cause it wants to live and pass on its seed . Humans have been hunting animals for 10s of thousands and thousands of years raising live stock . If live stock was let loose and allowed to be freed they would get hunted down to extinction or near extinction by predators . Have you seen a field and how it looks from mono cropping ? There is plenty of "excuses" not eat plant based . Sorry but life is harsh and with that comes harsh realities. So there is no ethical way to eat the plants that are living and the animals that are killed to protect that plant you eat that is box ripen and not picked from you in nature like it was for 1000s of years until modern day . Veganism is also a modern concept . Man will always eat animals until evolved from it not pushed away from it from the likes of a vegan population of maybe 2% of the world population and agenda globalcons .
But hey you do you . Eat all the plants you like and I will eat all the meat I like .
I raise my own chickens. Treat them as pets. And I eat their eggs. What is unethical about this? (the original chicks were not from a breeder. From a friend that has been keeping chickens as pets for 20 years).
Great, 90% of the stuff you eat to make up for the proteins and fats you're not getting from meat makes me vomit, people have allergies. And lastly, you're ethics are not my ethics. And I'm sure theirs plenty about the ways you live your life I could pick apart as being unethical according to my views. So get off your high horse.
Striking how judgmental and moralising this video feels. Shamelessly taking ex-vegans' words out of context and trying to spot every aspect of their lives that isn't vegan, while they obviously tried so hard for so long. These are not the ones to persecute... chase people eating red meat every day and who would never even give a thought to being vegan instead. This video does not respect people who have tried to be vegan but realise that this diet is not sustainable for them for X personal reasons that are no one else's business. What of people whose digestion is chronically upset on a vegan diet, but works as a vegetarian or omnivorous? What of medical conditions you have no idea about? It is also dangerous to say that there is no nutrient in meat that you can't get in plants. While this is true, nutrients are less absorbable from plants, especially the essential B12, and responsible vegans do ackowledge the need to properly supplement. This video really illustrates a problem of our society: we cannot agree to disagree, or even admit that we may not know everything about other peoples' experience. The radicalism of this kind of vegan community is ridiculous at best, harmful at worst. You can't hope to convince more people to be vegan by bashing ex-members of your community the moment they seek more absorbable nutrition. If you have no ethics in your argument against these people, you can't expect anyone to agree with your arguments for veganism either. Whatever happened to moderation and critical thinking?
Im not vegan anymore also. Most of the food taste absolutely awful and doesn't have any flavor, texture, juice or gooey cheese pull. Also no fat
Peanut butter? Coconut oil ? Olive oil? Nuts? Seeds? 😂 I Hope you are a troll. Also if your food Is bland Is a matter of learing how to prepare It, quit making excuses
Vegetarian since birth and went vegan 12 years ago at the age of 16 (now 28). Would never, ever go back as once you truly make that ethical connection you can't go back. It's also super easy for the vast majority of people to access an abundance of vegan food options these days. I'd typically eat porridge with fruit & peanut butter/smoothie for breakfast, veggie sandwich/soup for lunch and curry/dhal/chilli/veggie burger/tofu stir fry/veggie pasta or lasagne for dinner. Legit so many yummy healthy recipes to keep you full. Then having a couple of treats like a vegan magnum or something is good for a bit of balance!
what a sad life
@@lukebruce5234 what a arrogant
I’ll never understand how people can have their eyes opened to the animal holocaust only to shut them again.
They see their children getting sick.
@@pepper419 I’m going to assume you’re new to this trolling thing because that was next-level stupid. Even if true, which it isn’t, what bearing would that have on the parents continuing to be vegan? That would be about as dumb as a parent giving up, say, writing because their child was having trouble learning how to write.
Animal holocaust 😂😂😂😂
Why do you use animal products intentionally and needlessly for entertainment?
Answer that truthfully and factually to get your epiphany.
So worried about a "fake holocaust" that you're stuck in denial about your own contributions to it.
And the plants are not sentient beings? Nothing in this world wants to die, but it does anyway. It's a fact of this life. Doesn't rationalise cruelty for sure. That should be avoided. But is a tiger cruel when it kills the gazelle?
Why is he sulking about ex-vegans. It's hurting his feelings because he knows that vegans have to live on cornflakes and other man made junk food while they pretend to be so utterly free of all the world's crap. Constantly eating packaged foods and man made meat and milk, not to mention the oils that couldn't be worse for man or beast and fake butter. Oh, I'm sorry I meant margarine. Almond milk. Oh yes, one alond takes two gallons of water to grow. Not bad eh. And you shout down what animals do. By the way, carnivores don't fart, vegans do it all for us.
Great video! 🙌Thank you, Klaus/PBN! 💚 18 years vegan here btw! ✌😎
It's simple, it sucks to cause hell on other beings, because of my need, to eat what I want. Entitlement that causes others to suffer is bad. It's detrimental to all life. If we could just stop hurting and using each other for just a minute, we could instead help one another, in any way we can, we could start to move into a society that cares. Imagine the fun we could have. The good be could do together. Join me on Team Good, Be great to yourself and everyone else always. Be a leader in this time, Me Good, Be Kind, have compassion and lose the judgment. Everybody is on their own path, when we get lost talk to people we know and share information. Start sharing Good information about all the kind things you have done lately, inspire the good out of the good people you know.
I'd rather join Team Carnivore.
All animals and living beings live off of devouring other living beings to survive. To deny that aspect of yourself, you take yourself out of nature, the food chain, and distance yourself from your true nature.
Good luck to you in that
B vitamins! After several years of being strict vegan, I was getting a lot of dementia symptoms. Frightening. Then after researching more, I realized I had missed information about taking B vitamin supplements. After taking them for a couple months, most all dementia had gone. I have since added back small wild fish, some egg. Also still taking B supplements. Back to where I was before going vegan as far as I can tell.
I raise chickens and ducks and ThEY DO lay 300 eggs per year and they’re not genetically altered or have crowded living conditions. They’re extremely happy and healthy, and if an egg isn’t fertilized it would just spoil, so you might as well eat it.
The biggest reason that vegans fall off the bandwagon is peer pressure from society. Over 95% of humans eat meat. It is mentally challenging to remain in the minority, especially because there is no immediate reward for staying vegan.
How sad. Maybe it's because the vast majority know what their brains are made of. 60% fat and 20% cholesterol. You can't get that from a leaf and most of us don't want to go senile.
@@pepper419 The human body makes its own cholesterol in sufficient quantities. Dietary cholesterol raises your chances of getting heart disease.
Human beings have been eating meat since time immemorial. Animals eat other animals. While I agree that it is spiritually in tune to not harm animals as much as we can, it is impossible to undo centuries of history and expect everyone to stop eating meat. So please - vegan or vegetarian, pescaterian or whatever you are - stop judging people who aren't.
I am vegan and, prior to switching, my doctor came up with a fresh health plan listing the vegan diet and NO statins, but he could not resist throwing in daily aspirin, "for insurance". He also added a protein levels test to ensure I was getting enough. Few years later, on a CT scan for a weird headache, the scan came back ok for cancer or other things but they said they could see that 3 weeks ago I had had a BRAIN BLEED, and they asked did I remember anything back about then? I could not. But as soon as my doctor saw that report he immediately removed "daily aspirin" from my health plan! He also found that my protein levels on my old, high meat diet were 10 on a scale of zero to 100, but now on the plant-only diet, they were 50, a 500 percent rise. I never take protein supplements, so it's got to be the protein-sparing effect from eating a diet richer in carbs, the whole plant carbs I was eating a large amounts. If the body is low on carbs it will attack and dismantle protein molecules from diet or even from existing muscles and use the carbs to feed the brain. You can imagine what happens, your 20 dollar steak turns in to 20 cents worth of pasta just to get some carbs, and you've been screwed by you own brain. :) Love the diet, BTW, 7 years now, 77 years old, no meds, no symptoms, cholesterol 147, down from 270, BP 72/54 taken 30 minutes after climbing 30 flights of stairs double-stepping, acid reflux gone, ED half gone, wow. I lost 40 lbs kept it off, eat all I want, never hungry. Why wouldn't anyone want that? Beats me. When I started they predicted a 50 percent chance of heart attack in the next two years. All whole plant food diet was the way for me to go, I didn't know till I did it. Don't believe the naysayers here. I can get that some young folks will not know much difference or will say it's not worth it being vegan, but wait, time will come when it will, if my guess is right. There is so much disease that disappears on this diet, and it happens so fast.I am vegan and, prior to switching, my doctor came up with a fresh health plan listing the vegan diet and NO statins, but he could not resist throwing in daily aspirin, "for insurance". He also added a protein levels test to ensure I was getting enough. Few years later, on a CT scan for a weird headache, the scan came back ok for cancer or other things but they said they could see that 3 weeks ago I had had a BRAIN BLEED, and they asked did I remember anything back about then? I could not. But as soon as my doctor saw that report he immediately removed "daily aspirin" from my health plan! He also found that my protein levels on my old, high meat diet were 10 on a scale of zero to 100, but now on the plant-only diet, they were 50, a 500 percent rise. I never take protein supplements, so it's got to be the protein-sparing effect from eating a diet richer in carbs, the whole plant carbs I was eating a large amounts. If the body is low on carbs it will attack and dismantle protein molecules from diet or even from existing muscles and use the carbs to feed the brain. You can imagine what happens, your 20 dollar steak turns in to 20 cents worth of pasta just to get some carbs, and you've been screwed by you own brain. :) Love the diet, BTW, 7 years now, 77 years old, no meds, no symptoms, cholesterol 147, down from 270, BP 72/54 taken 30 minutes after climbing 30 flights of stairs double-stepping, acid reflux gone, ED half gone, wow. I lost 40 lbs kept it off, eat all I want, never hungry. Why wouldn't anyone want that? Beats me. When I started they predicted a 50 percent chance of heart attack in the next two years. All whole plant food diet was the way for me to go, I didn't know till I did it. Don't believe the naysayers here. I can get that some young folks will not know much difference or will say it's not worth it being vegan, but wait, time will come when it will, if my guess is right. There is so much disease that disappears on this diet, and it happens so fast.
Thankfully a few more have escaped the cult.
Isn’t the reason for people going back to eating meat because they were getting sick eating only vegan food?
Why wouldn’t they?
Vegan for 21 years...Serving in the Army for 17 years....Never needed Meat....i will never make my stomach graveyard for innocent animals....I am healthy, young and happy.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂no one cares
@@PatienceOpoku-rr6yx I care, you disrespectful human being. You have nothing to share but hate, go away. @Kailashrai thank you so much for sharing this inspiring message!!
@PatienceOpoku .....spoken like a true anti-vegan troll.......
Thanks for this video. I am 72 and just became vegan in January for health reasons. High cholesterol, high blood sugar and high blood pressure. I thought l was being ethical to animals before because l was mostly plant based eating meat fish dairy and eggs a few times a month from local organic farms. Since being vegan my consciousness is changing about that. I was afraid that it would be hard to let go of animal foods completely but it has been effortless. I am eating a much more varied diet. I am glad you made this video because l was finding the vegan quitters content confusing. I will find out next month what the diet is doing for my health when l get tested. So to be continued but I feel do much more in alignment with my values so l am committed to staying Vegan.😅
You still use animal products needlessly just like everyone else here...
Congrats on learning how to be dishonest and how to play pretend I guess.
The problem was that they were occasionally tempted by the old foods so they gave in, but they didn't want to feel guilty, or feel like frauds or suffer cognitive dissonance so they decided to change their beliefs instead of just admitting that they occasionally slip up. I am vegan 90% of the time, but occasionally I slip up, which makes me feel guilty but I know that I'm trying my best so I'm going to stay vegan because that's my belief system, I'm going to keep trying my best and know that it is better than just giving in to temptations to eat meat and dairy all the time. Better to be a bad vegan than a good meat eater.
I'm yet to see a vegan who is right in the head. Just my personal experience. You must not extrapolate.
The way I see them is, they're all climbing the walls. They all seem to be high on sugar. I don't know how the hell they cope with their kids.
Of course-anything outside of the mainstream isn’t going to seem “right” to those still in it.
You sound like my dad before he got sick--called plant based diet nonsense. Thankfully his health is better now and he hasn't had any meat or much dairy in 10 months. Anyway have a good one
@@scrane5500 I wish him all the best.
Nice report - also, thank you for including that Doctor. My own Doctor is the one who told me to go plant-based/vegan (no junk food and minimal processed foods) 8 years ago. My BP has dropped immensely. Next month, I plan to ask him if I can go off my water pill he has me on.
I tried 8 different diets each for 2 weeks - the worst and weakest I felt was on vegan diet - the best was on keto diet and carnivore diet so now I lose body fat and build muscles by being somewhere between keto and carnivore diets.
But it is good to see vegans take on all the ex-vegans that decided to do what is healthy and good for their bodies and showing why veganism is more about religion than logic and science.
Dr. Matthew Nagra should look more into people being on keto or carnivore diets for 10+ years and about the science around that diets instead of only speaking about people being on it for a short amount of time. Also vegan diets and supplements sell only when you promote vegan religion so I know why he needs people to fear eggs and meat.
I would want an answer to last part: 1 - the healthiest cultures consumed a predominantly plant based diet - because I know it is not true - so I want links for that because there is a difference between correlation and causation and lack of processed foods in their diets - in fact the healthiest Indians and Africans lived on mostly meat based diets in a hunter societies - eating meat and lots of walking and moving = health and why they were all lean muscular and high and why many Kenya people lived for more than 100 years without any modern civilisation health problems.
Pressure to be too perfect may trip you back into eating animal products again so I watch out for it. For example my dentist would like me to stop eating acidic foods, many fruits, tomatoes, vinegar and lemon juice dressings. I thought about it as I care about my tooth enamel, but I already eat a very clean WFPB diet and I know that the moment it becomes more restrictive, I'll start fantasising about the animal foods I used to eat and was brought up on, so no, I stick to my fantastic WFPB way of eating that got me slim and healthy 4 years ago and continues to keep me slim and healthy. I eat lots and love my WFPB food so much, and it's a journey, I'm refining my diet when needed, but without becoming obsessive.
Cosmicskeptic quitting has really disappointed and annoyed me because i have watched him lecture so many people about this.
Go Klaus!❤️
This was awesome!!! Thank you for this, I needed this reminder. ❤
To me, it's all about retaining viewer numbers on Ytube, whatever it takes....views = income, and being controversial can generate more views. There's phenomenally successful athletes and weight trainers who DON'T choose to consume animal products or post on Yt.
The real reason is health and mental issues. For the most people this ideological diet is not sustainable long term. Period.
And there have been ZERO cultures in our history that have been eating anything even close to a vegan diet. If someone claims the opposite, it is just a lie.
Watching this while eating my tasty vegan pizza😊 I was so pissed off, when I heard Mailys speech about veganism. I'm from Ukraine and many vegans joined the army after russian invasion and they are still vegans. They promote vegan lifestyle, it's very difficult for them but they keep going. This ppl in a video just found excuses how to exploit animals. But there is no excuse. So go vegan. It's not that hart
Chickens are not pets. Sooner or later even backyard chickens become dinner.
I think we have to face the fact that Veganism is a Ethics thing witch is fine, it's not so much a health thing. I tried Veganism for over 1 year and it's better than the standard western diet, but it didn't cure my diabetes and for me it was complicated to get everything my body needed to feel good and be in balance. Today I eat mostly meat no fruit and a few select low lectin veggies. 2 years into eating this way today I am no longer diabetic at all. normal sugars 3 months in. I feel great and lost 60lbs I'm never hungry, i sleep better and I am able to fast easily with little effort for 24-48 hours. This is what is best for me over all. You can find long term Carnivores same as long term Vegans. You can find numbers that support both. You have to do what is best for you specificly. If someone tells you Vegan is best they are probably wrong. If Some one tells you carnivore is best they are probably wrong. What is your personal goal research your goals for your self find what works best for you. health wise or ethics wise or both. Don't just jump on either sides band wagon. There are no sides, just your self and how you feel. I think a lot of these social media people switched it up for shock value to regain relevance. There is no right way to do this, only finding your way.
These people are hilarious. Just because you’re eating a plant based diet, that isn’t healthy it’s still not the plant based diets’ fault.
For example of one feels exhausted, then try increasing your carbohydrate intake and simply eat more.
If you often feel sloggi after a meal, like if you want to sleep. Then you should probably take a closer look at your fat intake.
We aren’t all different we are physiologically all similar, just look at animals.
But why is it for example bad if you eat an egg that you took from your own hens or from one of your friends' farm? there is no exploitation there...
One of the things that is actually very hard to do is to keep a sustainable and complete vegan diet because the products are very expensive
Yes, consensus says ... Epidemiology says... and yet... so why did they quit? Your video is almost done... and all you've done is talk trash about other people - didn't you give them a questionnaire? Do a statistical analysis?
🤔 I believe that one of the main reasons why people "quit" veganism is because they don't know or haven't understood the definition of veganism. They think or have been misled into thinking that veganism is a diet, something you do for health, to lose weight etc.
Vegan for the animals ✌❤
You literally use animal products needlessly for entertainment from the same animals normal people eat.
By your own logic, you're not "vegan" for the animals either.
I love Dr Nagra’s library: Dr B, Dr Greger, Simon’s plant proof….
Many of the people that I just saw flip flopping from diets seem to be on the bi polar end of things, I hope that’s not the case though. It is disheartening to see people who obviously have more than a means to get proper and intelligent information opt for biased info.
How about insects that are killed in masses for all the vegans. Please make a video about tofu and how every animal or insects that enters those bean fields are slaughtered and wasted. I’m not anti vegan but if you’re going condemn people who change their diet, then be honest about the distribution that being a vegan causes.
Heme iron is supposed to be bad for us? Heme as in blood? How can that be bad for us?
When the s**t hits the fan and the supermarkets close, we will really see who can actually survive without plants and highly processed garbage. That alone is a reality people forget, not too mention meat eaters can actually provide for themselves anywhere in the world without having to rely on weather dependant gardening.