What the Maker of Ozempic Doesn't Want You to Know: It's Bankrupting America
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- Опубликовано: 22 сен 2024
- One miracle drug could create a fiscal crisis in America. Ozempic could end obesity...bankrupt Medicare, blow up state budgets and increase premiums for everyone. It’s because Big Pharma is ripping us off. The drug costs $936 in the US-but nearly 10x less everywhere else.
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Ozempic in Germany, $59.
Ozempic in America $1,029
Cost to lobby a US Senator, $400,000
Making insane profits in America, Priceless!
for when shareholders mean more than people. Mastercard is there for you
But this is true of insulin as well, along with every other medication and medical procedure. There is an answer, and it is Medicare for All.
This! The European countries cap manufacturer drug prices!
@@pjaypender1009not at these prices. You have to regulate and cap the prices for the manufacturers.
Freedom for big corporations to rob. For the rest of us, good luck😅
You are asking the wrong question. The question should be: Why is it so expensive in the U.S.? Who or why is making it so expensive in America?
Medicine is a Munition of war. This is an attack upon the nation.
The companies that subsidize the Healthcare costs of other nations. There's a reason American pharmaceutical companies are far more innovative and productive than the vast majority of other Healthcare companies. Not popular, but reality. Patents that save lives mean someone gets paid for discovering new frontiers. Researchers live in the US for a reason.
Kickbacks
Also the manufacturing in America is insane. I did some contract work for a company contracted to make medications for various pharmaceutical companies. One of the things I learned from that is the formula for there drugs can be incredibly expensive. They were starting a process of swapping out one drug for another. And just moving a nearby machine over two far to make room for the new production line would kick off new potential approval processes that could cost the company millions.
"American pharmaceutical companies" and "innovative." What an oxymoron.
US Tax money is such an easy cash cow when you own politicians.
Funny how bribery works so well.
And citizens united, and corporate money in politics
europe wouldnt exist without stealing everything americans generate.. even our culture. look at how hilariously bad their rap is but they take themselves soooo seriously about it. while they are less hard than the average well off american lmao.
Exactly, apparently they didn't donate enough to his campaign. That's why cooperate money needs to be taken out of political races.
this video is bullshlit.. using this medication for "weight loss" is not what the medication exists for.. meaning insurance does NOT cover it unless the doctor is guilty of felony fraud.. this video is nonsense..
WHYYYY... In the US, EVERYTHING related to fresh food and Health care is EXTREMELY more expensive?
Here in Brazil, Insulin, hypertension drugs, colesterol, Antidepressants and lots and lots of medicine are free in the public health system if you can't or don't want to buy the brand ones... And Brazil is a DEVELOPING country.
We understand that ... If we don't treat our people, we'll lose a worker, a citizen, and a family member.
Treating our people is much cheaper than losing them.
AMERICANS NEED TO RISE against the Dem and Rep parties ... Because both parties agree with this money grabbing and money machine that is the Healthcare system in the US 😕
Other countries get to pay less because the Senate and House are bought and paid for by drug manufacturers. It's just good old American corruption.
We’re the richest country in the world….richest for the 1%, third world for everyone else. Not sure if you know this but we have transient homeless in every city, and at least one per day dies in my state of California…this is within a few miles of 20 million dollar homes. Our system is sick, and the average person feels beaten down and powerless to the point where you really can only focus on making it week to week.
@@randoH3000 You've never been to a third world country if you genuinely believe that. There's a reason people from those countries will die trying to get here. You sound demoralized
Remember what happened with inhalers?? They patented the literal plastic dispenser part and made inhalers basically UNAFFORDABLE!!! 😫
YUP. They keep changing something so it never qualifies for the generic production.
Glad I live in New Zealand.
You can thank Lina Khan for reversing useless patents on inhalers making price go down. She’s the best thing that Biden administration did.
@@kiwibonsai2355 You're very fortunate!!! I remember as a young child in school teachers were ALWAYS telling us kids, "You all are VERY FORTUNATE to be living in the United States of America. You live in the MOST FREE country in the world" ...
How so? 🤷 I think we were ALL being lied to at an early age to brainwash us into believing that. I've since woken up to the facts 😔 I hope others will
Really we have 4 kids on albuterol (along with my husband) it $24 an inhaler for us we get 4 at at time. My oldest is on an inhaled steroid that is only $39 a month. The past few years the price for all their med have gone down.
Imagine thinking $12 billion in profits is not enough
Amazon ?
Imagine thinking there is an "enough" in any business at all lol
Apple?
Ok what do you think is a reasonable amount of profit to make? Only 100 dollars net revenue? Break even every year?
I'm not saying prices shouldn't be lower but you have no idea how the business works. I use to work for a pharma company. At the time 2006 it cost one Billion dollars just to get to phase one of clinical trials.
Theyre no guarantee that the drug will pass all three trails and FDA approval. Now multiply that by trying to discover multiple drugs and failing along the way.
If give drugs fail they spent 5 Billion already. Yes they need a long runway to keep discovery of new drugs.
How do you think generic drugs are made? Once it goes off patient the generic company comes in and recreates the drug. Generic drug manufacturers don't often discover new drugs. They copy exciting ones.
Yes, those companies could sell there products for much cheaper too…actually…most probably could 😅…it’s as if we live within a crazy system trying to maximize profit for companies without regard to anything else 🤔
Medicinal manufacturers vastly inflating prices in the US?
Never happened before. 🤣
and there are people still claiming that big pharma is for the good of all people and we shouldn't doubt them.
This why Medicare for all can help push government to lower drug prices.
Get ready for some major class action lawsuits, this drug has killed people and will kill more people.
People work for money, never forget that’s the motivator. Maybe that should be pushed away from healthcare. If you can have those separate it would change, these are monsters too big to manage
That's not the problem. The problem is the people in the US putting the bigger money in their pockets by preventing the country from getting a national healthcare plan and single-payer system that will be able to dictate the prices of all drugs for everyone.
That guy blamed the people who are getting it prescribed to them, literally the lowest person on the pole. The consumers are relatively powerless.
They cannot help but stuff their faces with food until they are morbidly obese and about to start losing toes.
People love to shame people for being overweight, and they love to shame people for actually doing what we can to stop being overweight. Despite what a million grifter RUclips channels are trying to tell everyone, there are very few negative side effects to these medications.
That drives up demand
Profits over patients? You mean the entire Healthcare industry?
capitalism 101
It was ever a profit game, never a health game.
The healthcare/drug companies want you to be as sick as possible for as long as possible and take as many drugs as possible so they can make as much money as possible.
Yep and don't get me started on medical debt
Even the most noble need to have a life of their own and a means to provide for their family. Healthcare is no less a commodity than any other skill. Would you deride a plumber, electrician or mason because they refused to perform without payment? If people cannot make a living in it, they will not do it - then where is your healthcare?
I've seen so many of those ozempic ads whenever I turn on the TV, that I don't turn on the TV.
Just move to a civilised country where advertising drugs directly to people with no medical qualifications is illegal.
Exactly why I pay for RUclips Premium. Probably won't ever subscribe for cable.
The thought of advertising drugs to the general public is absolutely mind boggling to me
@@MandaPanda254It's disgusting. People want instant results in america and theyre willing to pay hand over fist to get them.
America was a low hanging fruit. Overweight and the ability to price gouge.
And most of us Americans are idiots.
Overweight due to processed foods, seed oils, and HFCS
@@safeandeffectiveloldon’t forget sedentary lifestyles due to the internet, and depression
Seed oils are not inherently bad, stop getting health info from quacks.
Also urban sprawl/ long commute times & lack of pedestrian & bike friendly routes. Cutting recess & gym class & and parents being paranoid about letting their kids play outside. a@@suzykendallosborne
I'm Norwegian. My dad gets his Ozempic for free by the government Lost almost 150lbs. Novo Nordisk has a bilateral agreement with Nordic countries to supply them first, and at the same time Parliament heavily negotiated prices of the drug to get it for pennies on the dollar compared to the USA. Public healthcare incentivizes these kinds of negotiations, something Private healthcare simply cannot. Now you are paying extortion prices for something we get basically for free. Incredible.
These 2 scenarios are both the result of socialized healthcare. It is so expensive because of laws allowing it be a temporary monopoly. The monopoly was put in place by the government. If our system was actually free market, we would be able to buy generics or competitors drugs which would drastically reduce the cost. Its why insulin costs almost nothing in mexico but can be prohibitively expensive the US. Its because there a laws preventing the purchase of drugs outside the US.
@@FinalHeresyno shit. The land of the free.
@@FinalHeresy This.
The worst part of all is that If/when we start to close this gap your prices will have to rise. For as long as I have been alive, drug makers have been selling low to some nations and making up the short fall by jacking up our prices. WE SUBSIDIZE THE WORLD on these medicines. All of their research costs and profits are taken from the US market to supply the world with affordable drugs. If we stop doing that all of you will be impacted.
@@FinalHeresylaws introduced by big pharma
Convenient how they went viral around the same time that pressure really ramped up to lower insulin costs. It felt almost overnight a couple years ago. One day people were trying to get their insulin, the next they were all struggling to get ozempic.
I wonder what wonder drug cash cow they'll have next once they've juiced every dime out of this one
Yea, well, they figured out they couldn't gouge us to death with the insulin so they had to move onto another SCAM.
What a profitable coincidence
If we gave everyone who was morbidly obese (who wanted it) a prescription for Ozempic, we would see the need for insulin drop drastically. I’m sure that’s what you were referring to, but I like to state the obvious. I think it’s much less cruel to allow people to become type 2 diabetic when it can be avoided. But American healthcare loves to profit off of the misery of people who don’t need to be made miserable.
Ozempic is more effective for type 2 diabetics than insulin is, and the weight loss "side effect" compounds the effectiveness since weight loss also helps with T2D. Insulin prices are still very much a thing for type 1 diabetics where they literally need it to survive.
But why??? Makes no sense that Medicaid is willing to pay 10x the price - it’s greed
Because medicaid and medicare are by law not allowed to negotiate prices. That happens since citizens united when big pharma is allowed to pour millions in the elections bribing politicians to decide such bs
Greed is not the desire for more, it's the desire for more at the expense of others.
It's the desire for other people's stuff.
@@aluisious no that's covetousness
I like this definition
@@DoubleOhSilver wow that word. Impressed. 👏
Greed is yourself eating in obesity
If a USA pharma had this monopoly, do you really think politicians would be questioning them? I doubt it, it wouldn't be in their best interest. It sucks being on the back foot.
Exactly. If the same price gauging happens with the U.S. companies it’s all “great capitalism” but if other country is reaping benefits then it’s “bad capitalism”.
Spot on. Hypocrites. Play stupid neo liberal economy games, win stupid neo liberal economy prices.
Actually, Bernie Sanders would question them it's kind of his thing.....
Wait wait wait...these pharmaceutical companies have been price gouging the hell out of diabetics, why wasn't that an issue? Especially type ones.
I just hit the donut hole in my Medicare advantage coverage. My costs quadrupled. I manage on half a dose weekly. My A1C dropped from 7.2 to 6.2, and my weight has dropped almost 30 lbs; 10 more to go. But I won’t be off Ozempic once I reach that goal because at best I’ll be back to being pre-diabetic. My weight loss has been slow and steady and maintained but it’s not the deciding factor. These pricing structures are sheer usury.
I was thinking the same thing
Clearly you have not been following Bernie and his long fight there too.
It was an issue, but it's not profitable to do anything about it so our politicians won't do anything about it. Too many lobbyists.
Pharmaceutical companies have been gouging diabetics for a long while, look at the history of the cost of insulin etc.
I am on Ozempic and never knew it was so expensive. I am a disabled Veteran and the VA put me on it 3 months ago. I have already started seeing results, I have dropped 12 lbs. I am so grateful to the Veterans Administration for the medical care I receive from them.
There's two things I suggest to people these days after trying them myself.
The first is regular fasting. If you look it up, it has plenty of huge benefits for people. Weight loss is a big one, autophagy is another(repairs damaged cells), it is a good preventative against cancer too because of that. Repairs or removes damaged cells before they cause issue. It also helps with hormones, metabolism, cognitive function.
Common misconception is that you're starving yourself, but your fat is there for you to fast with. People feel awful when fasting because most are used to a carb heavy diet, and the body simply hasn't exercised it's ability to produce and run on ketosis/ketones regularly. Once you do it a few times it becomes easier and easier.
The second is, Carnivore diet. Or at least. Significantly less carbs, processed foods, seed oils. I have a diet where about 75% of my calories comes from meat, cheese, organ meat. And about 25% from low carb veggies and fats. Like tomatoes, peppers, mushrooms. I still have some rice here and there, but i've cut out pasta and bread, and things like potatoes entirely, and I feel so much better after that.
Both of these things took me from an over-weight, diabetic, and struggling with mental illness, to a much much healthier person.
Highly suggest looking them up. It's not a miracle cure by any means, but it can actually help with tons of issues that people experience regularly.
Ozempic is great, but it's temporary. It helps to learn these things about the body and nutrition to help you in the long run. Meat also is quite calorie dense, and when bought on sale, can actually be cheaper than eating your standard diet.
Mike change your diet to lose the weight &heal your body. Excellent diets: Keto and Carnviore diet with fasting.
ch for keto: Dr Berg, Dr Eckberg, Dr Boz (vds for all Keto for beginners, keto flu, electrolyes etc)
ch for carnviore: Dr Ken Berry (carnviore for beginners, carnviore flu, electrolyes etc), No carb life, kelly hogan, homestead how, Shawn baker md podcast, Dr Caffee & more WORTH YOUR TIME many have interview testimonies of how this has healed every health issues.
ch for fasting: DR Mindy Pelz (7 types of fasting, what to drink on a fast, refeed after a fast etc) and Dr Jason fung (8 types of fasting vds etc)
WORTH YOUR TIME. library will have books on all. this works while healing your body.
i had an 80yr old neighbor loose 20 pounds in few months by simply changing her eating habits and eliminating sugar. no ozempic was needed.
It wont work for every body @@leszekkot3373
Fucking Criminal
Imagine the amazing public healthcare system we could have with a fraction of all the money that currently goes to lining the pockets of a few people at the top of a few corporations?
And yet people keep voting for the same corrupt politicians. Be they dems or reps.
Yeah, just sit and imagine it. Sounds like the plan.
Imagine what we could do simply by reforming the patent, copyright, and trademark systems
@@theforcedmemeThis is the way. Reform the patent system and much of the patent capture crap goes away.
Ancient Egyptian sun worshiping, of the god Kek, desires hive mind?!
Welcome to late stage capitalism.
we haven't had capitalism for over 100 years.
The fact that you would even equate what is going on with any thing to do with capitalism is shocking and kind of sad. Sorry so many people failed you in life!
@@zimfan101 Does it not have anything to do with capitalism?
@@pathologicusmaximus Nope. Monopolies, patents and patent protections are creations of government.
@@pathologicusmaximus it's not possible, it hasn't been capitalism in medicine in the US since 1870s.
US should NOT be bankrolling all the world's pharmaceutical companies!! 😤😤😤😤
Did you actually watch the video or just go straight to talking out of your ass?
The cost is only a fraction of what it makes even in the European markets. The only thing the US is paying through the nose for is profits thanks to its intentionally broken "health" care system.
well america first needs to provide adequate helthcare. i dont care whatsoever about choosing my doctor, i dont HAVE a doctor now because i cant afford one because the system is designed to price non wealthy people right out of the system. i havent seen a doctor in 10 years, and my teeth will rot out of my gums before ill ever be able to find and afford a good dentist. this system was built for the wealthy to enslave the poor. how about i pay for healthcare with my TAXES like im ABSOLUTELY willing to do. so why arent we doing it? because the rich will make less money off of us. burn their crops, it will crash the stock market and young people will get a chance to revive it themselves.
@@andywomack3414 no, it is not. On the contrary, if EVERYONE had Universal healthcare for all, the US would be able to negotiate drug prices MUCH better.
Yall wanted government ran healthcare and buisness.. your going to get a broken US. These people steal and cant balance a checkbook. Anything for the cult though right?
@@andywomack3414Uh-Oh! Looks like somebody bought into the Fox News propaganda! 🥰
Profits over people is the American way. Pharma is so big and so many in Washington are making big money on pharma and treatment, they have no incentive to do what’s right for the people they represent.
It's a little more complex than you think. You have to figure out the years it takes to develop the drug, and testing is phenomenally costly. The drugs and the formula are never perfect, so reformulate if necessary. This all costs money; it may be disproportionately more expensive here in the USA, which is our fault.
Here's a solution. Why don't you start a pharma company that puts people over profits. Grow it too billions in revenue but you give all the money away because profits don't matter.
@@beatbuildersstudio extreme. Generic RX’s have helped create competition and offer patients affordable options. There is a balance and in America we have not found how to help and profit. I’m a conservative, and this is just one RX that is overpriced. Pharma and the medical industry was development focused and well funded prior to being publicly traded.
Why are we not allowed to negotiated these prices?? Why do we have such a ridiculous healthcare system that isn't about healthcare, but only about profits for a few?
Because our politicians are so good at making us hate each other that they don't have to do anything else to get elected
Because how else would shareholders earn 38billions in a couple years.
Have you thought about them?
Shareholdersyachtsmatters.
You are allowed. You just don't have any power. Same thing for unions and income negotiations.
That's such a good question. WHO is this system for? It's not for the patients. It's not for the workers.
Because America.
I'm 56 and my wife and I are VERY worried about our future, gas and food prices rising daily. We have had our savings dwindle with the cost of living into the stratosphere, and we are finding it impossible to replace them. We can get by, but can't seem to get ahead. My condolences to anyone retiring in this crisis, 30 years nonstop just for a crooked system to take all you worked for.
I feel your pain mate, as a fellow retiree, I'd suggest you look into passive index fund investing and learn some more. For me, I had my share of ups and downs when I first started looking for a consistent passive income so I hired an expert advisor for aid, and following her advice, I poured $30k in value stocks and digital assets, Up to 200k so far and pretty sure I'm ready for whatever comes.
In the 80's my Dad worked a modest job, Mom stayed at home and raised the kids, and they lived a nice middle class lifestyle including owning a home. Nowadays both I and my partner works and can barely afford to make ends meet. Soon the kids and family dog will need to work to keep this household going. It's the destruction of the American dream right before our eyes.
If you are not in the financial market space right now, you are making a huge mistake. I understand that it could be due to ignorance, but if you want to make your money work for you...prevent inflation
I was a late bloomer,but Mary Callahan Erdoes Services, my financial advisor helped me bring it all together and got me into crypto. Now retired for 6 years at 72, my managed portfolio with Tracy generates about 9k a month on average more than my RMD on my retirement accounts. Not real big, but together with SS we're able to live reasonably with 160k a year. While being mortgage free.
She is really a good investment advisor. Was privileged to attend some of her seminars.that's how I started my own crypto investment
everyone's a republican until they have to pay 40,000% for a life-changing medication.
it's because of government over-reach that the cost of the drug is so high. 70% of all wealth is behind the democratic party. Democrats or republicans aren't ever going to fix our financial system. We've been under socialism since 1913.
The pricing is also the consequence of the health insurance system. Private health insurance companies are bankrupting the US.
Novo Nordisk has also discontinued shipping their Norditropin Growth Hormone to North America when they hyper focused on Ozempic sales.
Nothing more than glorified dope dealers, dunno why anyone expects these dope industries to care..... No different than finding some dude on the corner, he might care more about you than the legal industry does, he don't have any laws protecting him when you die like big legal dope does.
i just got a script for ozempic, and they wanted. $1,600 A MONTH!! the heck with $900/mon. but with all the bad side effects, i said skip it, i am now looking for a gym membership.
come to Australia , you would get it for 20 dollars US a month
No need for a gym membership. Just repeat the holy verses 14:8, thou shall not consume more calories than my BMR, 14:13 thou shalt walk 3 miles each day, 12:5 thou shall consume only complex carbs and protein and drink only water and unadulterated coffee. Now my child go and begin your journey
And yet anyone proposing universal health care that would reduce the cost to 50 usd is banned and called a communist. Do you understand the game?
Find places to import it from abroad. Wegovy is also 1600/mo without insurance. And then with my insurance, only Walgreens is in-network specifically for Ozempic and Wegovy, but for other drugs you have a much large selection of pharmacies.
@@TheTazzietiger no..go to the gym and eat better. It's simple...
Corporate GREED at its finest.
lack of government protecting its citizens at its finest.
@@nonya.bizness Exactly
@@nonya.bizness excess of government "protecting" the citizens and the economy
The actual peptide is incredibly easy to manufacture. It's the pen that they claim is so expensive to produce.
It's the printing on the pen that hundredfolds the price.
I wouldnt say protein based medecines are super cheap to make though bit for sure usa shouldnt have to pay that much, 100-200 is more fair
They could quite easily supply the drug in bog-standard 30ml vials and have local pharmacies administer it using cheap, generic subcutaneous needles.
The pen probably costs less than 1$ to make, auto-injectors have been around for ages and are cheap to produce.
@@abvmoose87 under $50 is fair~ish. 10$ would be fair. It costs them less than $5 to produce an Ozempic/Wegovy pen, actually the Wegovy pen is cheaper to produce since it's fixed dose rather than adjustable.
Yet right here in America our tax dollars help funds the research of these drugs.. Eli lily is an American company that makes the competing weight loss drug..
right. make it domestically like insulin.
Not to mention that Eli Lily also makes huge amounts of money from selling insulin... a drug that the person who discovered wanted to be cheap and accessible and sold the patent to create it for just $1. These private companies profit MASSIVELY from research they didn't do, and are just fleecing us all
being located in america doesnt mean its american. guarantee the majority of its profits go straight to european laundering accounts/businesses. because thats what ALL wealthy eurocentrics do with money they take from americans.
It's called Mounjaro. It works better than Ozempic/Weygovy, but it also cost $1000+.
All taxes do. Europeans fund research as well. The difference is the European countries have some type of universal healthcare for their citizens, but the US doesn't. The US has middle men robbing the patients blind.
It's insane that so many people need ozempic to lose weight! Whole food and drug system in US is insane!
It's like so many other so called "miracle drugs" that have been introduced in the past, some with far more consequences than others. I personally believe its being far far too overprescribed. Its fine for someone trying to lose 100+ pounds. I do not think its okay for someone looking to lose 30 or less. I think this drug has the potential for psychological dependency, as well.
@@BT-ex7ko I agree
Almost nobody who is obese can keep weight off without either GLP1s or bariatric surgery, you just start the endless cycle of yo-yo dieting. Stop treating obesity as a moral failing and treat it like the medical condition that it is, once you become obese your body will literally fight you to stay obese.
Strange, Once I broke the sugar and bread addictions I lost nearly 100 pounds and became super healthy, never took a weight loss pill.
Every industry has become about one thing in America; how can we extract every last cent from the working class. I work in a rural, underserved community, and I would say nearly 50% of my patient panel has asked me for, or about, GLP-1s in the past six months.
I believe it. GLP1s are a lifesaver. I was skeptical at first about them, but finally tried Wegovy this year and it has completely changed my life for the better, I've lost 50lbs in 5 months and am the healthiest I've been since my 20s. The feds need to get the price of GLP1s under control.
The reason the price went up is cuz people who Don't need it want to lose weight the easy way.. but any drug in America is overpriced compared to rest of the world..
Price gouging is what we need to control
If the price gouging wasn't there it would result in a large reduction in healthcare expenditures by the simple reduction in obesity. And yes it works extremely well, claiming people don't "need" it is bullshit, that's just treating obesity like a moral failing rather than a medical condition. Losing weight and keeping it off without GLP1s or bariatric surgery for most people who have a BMI over 30 is impossible, every person I know who has done that ALWAYS regains the weight and ends up in an endless circle of yo-yo dieting
And people wonder why I was instantly cynical about the miracle drug.
Not a single person ever wondered that.
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The comment seems to be speaking from personal experience. Did you speak to people close to him?
But it isn't the drug that's the problem. It's the maker. The reporter could have just ask a question and no report - e.g. why are US patients being charged $900+ for x medicine, but thos in the UK $50 (or whatever). That should have been enough to question WTH is going on here!
It do make sense in a way, because caloric intake is the biggest factor in gaining and losing weight. Ozempic is an appetite suppressant, so it cause people to eat less, and in theory should make people spend less money on food as well. Unfortunately, due to the price gouging, people ended up trading lower food expense for higher drug expense.
Just fixing the price of one drug isn't what this country needs, we need to eliminate the artificial localized economies afforded by health insurance networks in order to improve competition and enable true price discovery. In most cases for routine health care It is cheaper to pay out of pocket than it is to use insurance. The whole healthcare sector is a scam hidden behind the insurance industry.
The side effects are awe inspiring as well.
they're bad?
Yeah. The gastric issues can be permanent, or as least long-lasting, even after they stop taking it. I'm worried about the impact on the US medical system when so many people quit being able to take up nutrients and calories by just eating normally. And y'know, also the unhappy lives of the people taking these "miracle drugs".
No such thing as a free lunch.
@@Borkomora Not really. The slightly increased risk of certain kinds of cancers is probably the most concerning, but the benefits gained by not being obese outweigh all those risks since obesity greatly increased risk for many more kinds of cancer.
Gastric paralysis
How about we get rid of the chemicals in the food. Obesity problem solved.
US companies do the same thing in the US system, crickets, European company, oh now there is a problem!😅
I took it for 4 months. With that, I took the time to relearn how to eat right and exercise the proper way.
When I got off the drug, I got so hingry for like 3 weeks. It hurt not to eat.
Once that subsided, I was able to get back on track. Since Thanksgiving 2023, I have lost 45lbs.
I know others have lost more, but I am also muscle building as well.
Give yourself a pat on the back, Royce. Well done. 👏👏. Muscle weighs more than fat so don’t concern yourself too much with the numbers on the scale. Added bonus: muscle requires and burns calories just to maintain, whereas fat doesn’t. You will burn calories in your sleep. 👍
we dont want to hear you praising the devil, how about that.
@jansilverthorn777 Thank you.
@@SoullessScythe wtf are you talking about?
I "eat right" and exercise every single day. Lost ZERO pounds. (I am eating well below the recommended calories for my age, and eat zero processed foods, zero added sugar, and 500mg of sodium per day maximum). Now I will wait for everyone to tell me it's my fault.
I talk to my American friend and they just do not understand how countries with much lower GDPs and taxes can afford national healthcare. You dont have to increase taxes to provide healthcare, if you increase the tax, the drug prices in us will just go up too. You need to get your prices similar to other countries first. Any drugs in US are just significantly more expensive!
At least we still have Lizzo.
It's almost like capitalism and medicine don't mix.
Capitalism doesn't mix with anything.
It's almost like capitalism does not have people's best intetests at heart. )
It's almost like the parasites tricked you into hating the wrong side (that's not capitalism, i'm sorry)
we haven't had capitalism in medicine since 1870s. We haven't had capitalism overall since 1913.
When he dropped the dollars my jaw dropped to the floor 💸😮
As an american this is what we get for living in a n'eo libe'rial ca'pitalist mono'polie economy
That was the point.
Even the 93 dollars confused my africanisty can Americans just not exercise😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@tinashemaneya2198 We can but our food is also pretty shit
@@crimeunlimitedI totally get it💀if junk food wasn’t so inflated in Africa . I would be rocking the same boat
Patents in general, but medical patents in particular, should be illegal. They've caused horrifying consequences since the industrial revolution because they grant a natural monopoly for effectively unlimited time when you can slightly tweak the underlying formula.
Hmmm ...then there will be no motivation to pump money into research. I think there should be price regulation
@@yawkissi2058Yeah, it’s a fine line and I am not sure there is an answer.
@@yawkissi2058 They already get a lot of public funding to develop drugs and there's inherent first-mover advantage because it isn't trivial to design at-scale drug manufacturing.
I'm sure this impacts every food and beverage business as well. If ozempic users are eating less, that's eating into the profits of Fast Food, grocery sales, NRA (National Restaurant Association), etc... Are they manipulating the industry in any way?
and reduced healthcare costs outside the cost of GLP1s since the weight loss helps a lot of other health issues.
So basically Americans are subsidizing billionaires& health care systems around the world at the expense of our own financial and physical health
You just discovered that?
No. Even if the pharma companies would only sell in the rest of the world, they would make a crapload of money. The prices in Europe are quite high in comparison to other drugs. It's just that in USA they can rip you off a lot more.
Why does no one reimport drugs? Because congress outlawed it. Why can they patent a stupid piece of plastic? Because congress has created insanely rigid patent laws. The dices of this game are crooked.
Play stupid games, win stupid prices. Literally.
You're not subsidising the rest of the world, look at the prices charged in developing nations for e.g. TB drugs.
It's all profits.
I mean, the drug is absolutely incredible (I've been on Wegovy for 2 years). I lost 54lbs so far (and still shrinking). My cholesterol dropped 50 pts in 6 months (a very large amount). I have tons of energy, I exercise now, I quit smoking weed. This stuff is just incredible.
You could have done all that by eating less.
Just have self responsibility, eat less, sleep and exercise
@@aluisiousum, this person DID do that by eating less but the drug goes beyond just that.
Must be nice to be rich.
You’re hot.
And yet people dont want "socialism" healthcare
Yeah, because that'll cost EVERYONE more. Why should I have to pay for other people's bad decisions, and habits?
@@valspals9188Sistema Único de Saúde sent you a hug 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🤣🤣🤣🤣 Viva o Sus
Because the treatments can induce good habits instead. Just losing some fat and gaining energy can turn into a habit of more movement and healthier eating -- staying fat and lethargic won't inspire that turnaround because you're spending limited willpower that other vital things demand like going to work and planning meets with loved ones.
@@valspals9188 Because thats the right thing to do. If we don't, the only people that win in the long run are corporates.
@@valspals9188 You do already. Why do you think the hospital charges so much for an aspirin? Most hospitals are a business with a board of directors. All hospitals are required by law to treat patients that show up in the ER. Those costs are passed on to everyone else. Some hospitals have gone out of business. This is not sustainable.
Helping citizens doesn’t have a political alignment. Or at least it shouldn’t.
They help themselves first and toss scraps to the little people. Don't believe their lips.
The different in political alignments is *which* citizens they're trying to help.
Well, big pharma US companies have overcharged for decades the whole world for their patented drugs. Now, a European one is overcharging the US market. In Europe, people weren't able to afford US drugs that sometimes cost hundreds of thousands of dollars.
European countries tried to negotiate with US companies and the US government, but they just heard "it's a free market price." Now you are experiencing what European patients felt for decades. And US administration is complaining about the price. "It's a free market price."
Its hilarious watching the pressure put on Novo, if it was an american pharma company, nobody would play ball with Bernie😅. You need to look at your entire system instead, because if Novo was a US company, and made such a unique product, there would be no questions made.
We need more republicans like Dale in this country!
You can also ask to get it from a compounding pharmacy. It's not the drug itself that was in short supply, it was the pen. The pen makes you take a full dose, that means more money. A lot of people are finding good results with less than a full dose, but they don't want you to know that.
"I'm absolutely sure I'm not a socialist...I'm doing the conservative thing which is in trying to figure out how to get more out of less." I mean, he's doing the Conservative thing in saying "Fuck everyone else until it affects me and my position in society."
In fairness given how hyperpartisan the US is, it's amazing that's he's willing to discuss a common issue with an ideological opposite.
I mean he only has so much he can do in his position and the stance he takes is pro-constituant
I agree with you, but I also don't want to scare them away from making a decent decision by pointing it out lol
Patent laws need to change. I once knew an inventor of a device used during surgeries to administer anesthesia. He ended up selling the device for tons of money, but kept the patents to the tubing that it required. Then he charged a “King’s ransom” for the tubing, which was the cheapest part to manufacture of the entire device.
Ah, yes, it is very conventient that this is a foreign company that makes it, and NOW we have a problem. What this video wont even touch on is how much it cost to develop these drugs, in research. That is the most expensive part. But I can see there will be a negotiation next year on the list price. I wish you had the same energy when a US company does the exact same thing. It is your system you need to change instead of fear mongering
This wasn’t a drug they developed, Semaglutide has existed in hormone clinics for years and manufactured by compounding pharmacies. All they did was patent the dosage and device to administer it easily. The same drug could have been bought in vials and self administered with insulin needles for a fraction of the cost of it now. So, there was no big cost for research and development, just the cost to have it FDA approved for certain conditions. Now the FDA, at the behest of BIg Pharma, is going after these compounding pharmacies, and shutting many of them down. Business as usually in their eyes.
So, allowing corporations unlimited greed has a cost?....shocker
This shows who is REALLY behind the propaganda and why, against a government health care program. Not to mention the horrible side effects and the fact that you have to take this forever if you want to keep the weight off. Once you stop, the weight comes right back.
yes it gets stored in an energetic cloud that follows you until you stop taking it, then you wake up weighing 75kgs more
Really none of this surprises me about the cost of drugs. When a person can go outside of the U.S. and get dental work done, and the plane ticket, the hotel and food for their stay is STILL cheaper than staying here in the U.S. and getting certain work done, that says it all. If one needs a bridge, a root canal, and a crown, that would probably be 10,000 dollars probably, maybe more. Elsewhere it would be around 2500 for all of it, maybe even less. I know it depends on a lot of factors like the State and city you're in but that's an average probably. This is the most greedy, selfish, money hungry Country on the face of the globe.
Greed is the source of all our problems and will eventually lead to the demise of our existence
DON'T TAKE THAT CRAP!!! IT LITERALLY ALMOST KILLED MY SISTER TWO WEEKS AGO.
I'm sorry your sister experienced a rare side effect (assuming this is a true claim) but for all but a very small number of users the side effects are minimal and the benefits dramatically outweigh the risks. I've been on it for 5 months and have lost 50lbs and am the healthiest I've been since my 20s, with minimal side effects. All drugs have a risk of rare side effects, since no two people react to a drug the same way.
It's absurd that a medical company can hold a patent all to itself to create a monopoly. In my opinion, there should be no such thing as a legal monopoly. Monopolies only hold back progress and never benefit anyone but its CEO.
....oh where to start. . . If you want private companies to research anything there has to be a reward. We have this in IP rights as well as patents. That's not to say patents aren't abused ($100 in the UK and $1000 in USA) but hundreds of millions of dollars don't get funneled into research but a private company to invent new drugs if governments don't protect the incentive to do so.
But as you can see from the EU. There can be price caps while letting the inventor be the only legal seller. Now in the USA, Novo Nordisk is taking advantage of the broken state of laws and policy left by the republicans.
TLDR: Temporary patent monopolies are okay when regulated and are even good for society.
@@willichtenstein7071 what about when the research is already publicly funded?
@@willichtenstein7071 this ignores the vast amount of public funding given to these private companies to develop these drugs, which are then sold at massive profits back to the very taxpayers who funded their development.
The issue isn t the Monopoly.
Despite the monopoly the drug still is cheap in Europe.
The issue is how the american privatized health system favours shareholders above the général interest.
@@etienne8110 Healthcare gets more expensive when you interject the Government with the DRG system.
The United States needs a completely new government
The headline is wrong. Novo Nordisk has nothing to do with the American prices of their products. It has everything to do with the US government.
Novo Nordisk sets the price of the drug in the US, where there are no price controls. It is 100% their decision to price gouge the way they are.
@@mrvwbug4423US big pharma does the same thing, nobody has a problem with it. Dont hate the player, hate the game
From what they are saying, it doesn't look like we just pay the highest prices in the world. We pay about a thousand times more than anybody else in the world.
I see why they can charge Americans so much. Noone there can actually do maths.
@@riseofthephoenix Do you mean none can do math. You might benefit from some spelling lessons.
Now that's what I call Capitalism. 🎩
we haven't had capitalism in medicine since the 1870s. We haven't had a free market in other markets since 1913
If only the federal government had the power (via Medicare, and ideally Medicare For All) to negotiate at the national level, they may actually 'win'. NN doesn't mind losing North Carolina, but they may mind the entire country.
Stop “🗳️💙Big pharmaceutical should be converted into pharmaceutical cooperatives by and for the🇺🇸people🇵🇸🕊️Ⓐ☭🏳️🌈🏳️⚧️💫” RUclips censorship.
No just do like Canada and the rest of the Western world, tough bargaining with the producers. That is how Canada's Medicare costs are lower, per capita, than the US.
that wouldn't fix a thing. It's government involvement in medicine and pattents that have caused the problem. Having more government will not fix too much government.
Ozempic is not a lifesaving drug, CICO folks. Put the fork down and workout
Maybe unregulated free market shouldn’t be for essentials for a human. Medical , housing , education.
But in America they’re all costing arm and a leg now.
I’m not saying go full socialism. But I’m saying there should be regulations to certain extent. Our system is broken.
Maybe wallstreet shouldn’t be involved in housing ? Maybe big pharmas shouldn’t be able to control prices on drugs humans need ?
This doesn't mean that the US society/culture /establishment is evil
It's one piece of evidence in a pretty strong case, however.
I really appreciated you giving your platform to show the bipartisan nature of this issue, and giving Mr. Folwell this opportunity to make a call to action to hold these manufacturers accountable.
This type of video serves to show us that we really can meet in the middle of politically divisive issues if we all prioritize getting our people what they need, and holding price gouging in the medical industry accountable.
Those medications have disgustingly horrible side effects as well!
What would it cost if we force the food manufacturers to be honest about their ingredients in the relationship to obesity. What if we ban them from advertising junk food and fast food?
It's not the ingredients, it's the sheer amount that people eat. Calories are calories. Wegovy literally halves your appetite, without feeling hungry, and also stabilizes your blood sugar if you are diabetic or at risk of becoming diabetic.
You're telling me that this is $5 in America but insulin cost 300
Capitalism has run amuk in the US. There have to be boundaries on profits and CEO pay , I'm not talking communist system of total equality across the board.
A system where innovators are rewarded and enough profits to grow the company. Like CEOS in Japan make 20x the lowest paid worker. Now lift up the lowest paid workers' salary, and the CEO will benefit.
There is no equality in Communism, check out the system in China Same deal, different name
Agreed that Capitalism is not regulated as it should be and consolidation has created a monster. Kahn is at least starting to address it, but she won't get it all done and it won't happen overnight. Long and short, get the damn money out of the political process and it will be better. Vote local and buy as local as possible is all I can suggest. Won't be cheap, but again, it is a start.
we haven't had capitalism in medicine since the 1870s.
Another example of corporate greed being cancerous.
I think we are looking at the wrong issue here. We don’t need drugs. We need real food. We also need to address the mental health crisis in this country.
Real food is also heavily inflated in price.
It's too expensive for "real food"
@@PhoenixAngel429 No, not really. Rice, Beans, and some mixed Vegetables as a foundation, with just a sprinkle of meat(s)/cheese(s) if needed, with some Spices, and some oil like olive or avocado oil, some fruits, nuts, in small portions every few hours is not very expensive. An Instant Pot Pressure cooker is efficient for cooking everything.
@@justletmepostthis276 Or just take a shot once a week and eat half what you used to without relying on fad diets that never work. Keto, OMAD, intermittent fasting, etc. is all bullshit. It would take you years of carefully adjusting your diet to halve your calorie intake without your body fighting you at every turn. Remember once you're fat, your body will fight you to stay fat.
Maybe the US should stop subsidizing corn and regulating food like it does drugs. Then we wouldn't need a drug to solve these problems.
The US does this all across the world, manipulate prices and markets... But when a foreign company does the same, Americans pay victims 😂
This is comedy 😂
Hey at least the US is getting the product, In europe it costs less because of universal healthcare bargaining, but its sold out everywhere, because americans are getting it
How is Canada able to negotiate with companies regarding drug prescriptions to keep the prices reasonable?
I would like to know what Canada and other countries are able to do that US are not able to.
"Sell it for less or we won't buy it."
Canadian here. From my admittedly very basic understanding, there are much stricter laws and restrictions Up North for lobbying related to the healthcare industry, because it's primarily funded by taxes and government grants. If a pharma company in Canada jacks up the price of a medication, the government will just cut their funding and the company goes tits up. It's almost like universal healthcare is a GOOD idea!
Public health care instead of private. It's countries negotiating these prices instead of companies.
Absolutely untrue. Not a single taxpayer dollar goes out for the drugs. It is pure negotiation. What US Big Pharma fear is Canada's penchant for breaking certain laws that allow them to be copied and sold as generics.
They keep money out of politics.
Pretty sure you could 1/10th anything medical in the usa and everyone would still make a profit.
Patents should only hold up till the RND costs of the drugs are covered,
No cause it wouldnt give companies any incentive to develop anything new and take risks to invest huge ammount of time and effort into something that may not pay off in the end. Everybody would just wait for anyone else to invest energy into taking a drug to market so tvey could reap the exact same reward that the company who developed the medecine. Theres needs to be incentive into soing stuff. But the prices needs to be reasonable
@@abvmoose87 easy solution, nationalize pharmaceutical companies, remove the profit incentive.
Said it plenty of times. Change drug patents to being royalty-based so low cost generics can enter the market but a percentage of all those go to the original inventors. Essentially turns drug making into a cost plus business
Meanwhile in Europe the price is reasonable, but the drug is sold out everywhere except for the lucky few
yup, artificial shortage out of spite.
Too bad you can do the exact same thing for free with the low carbohydrate diet
Not sustainably, low carb diets are also terrible for your heart. Keto will drop your water weight quickly like any diet, then baloon your cholesterol and LDLs and you'll plateau quickly because all that meat and fat you're eating is also calorie dense, just not as calorie dense as carbs. In the end calories are calories, and Wegovy basically just halves your appetite, so you end up eating about half what you used to.
This is not something like Color, which is essential for national security.
You don’t necessarily need it. You can simply decide to use your discipline to eat in moderation.
Too many things are overpriced, that's how fucked up the world is.
Americans: socialism is very bad, get out commie!
Also Americans: basic medicine is bankrupting me.
Her manufacturing numbers are way off, quality control at every step? She's not counting how much it costs to produce medication in Europe. If they do this they'll be even less money going into researching new medications.
If it sounds too good to be true... Plus they should tell people more about the side effects.
It's obviously an advertisment to ozempic, farther, it's a propaganda add to make the prices even worse for society. we haven't had capitalism in us medicine since the 1870s.
The bigger question is why are more and more people looking to take more and more drugs? Enough with the pharmaceuticals already!!
Unchecked Capitalism be like
This has nothing to do with capitalism, we had not had capitalism in medicine since 1870s.
WHY ARE AMERICANS GETTING FINANCIALLY GRAPED WITH THESE INFLAYTED PRICES???
because of the health oligarchy that was established around 1870s.
Am I the crazy one for not looking at the weight problems in American and bringing the food industry into the conversation? If the food is GOOD for Americans, do we still need these dangerous and expensive drugs? Just a thought...
You're not crazy. In fact, John Haigt, who wrote a book investigating Ozempic and benefitted greatly from it himself, also advocates for tighter reigns on the food industry in the long run.
Absolutely, I want people to realize that there is this unholy alliance between big pharma and big food. Not a conspiracy per se but more of perverse incentives at play.
Calories are calories, Americans just eat WAY too much. And Ozempic/Wegovy are statistically speaking very safe drugs, serious side effects are incredibly rare, a few hundred cases out of 100s of millions of people using them.
Isn't it weird to you how EVERY pharmaceutical company has a copy of these drugs to sell you? Hint: there is an on the shelf $10 product THEY COPIED.
Why do I think this drug will have major side effects down the road? Every drug that has been a miracle drug had MAJOR side effects later on!
like what
@@Borkomora Problem can be that until you have thousands of people on the drug for decades you don't know. Though thalidomide is the classic example of the wonder drug that turned out to be a disaster.
@@geoffp625 Also drugs like Alprazolam (Xanax), which a lot of people forgot was a miracle drug when it was introduced in the early 80's and then quickly overprescribed with deadly consequences that people are still dealing with today. Same thing with drugs like Morphine and Oxycodone, which all originally were overprescribed for various reasons. All of these drugs *are* useful, and extremely helpful, and wonderful things to have in a medical providers toolbox-if they're used responsibly, and with care. I think Ozempic is currently wildly overprescribed more than any other drug ever has been since it is finally a well proven weight loss drug everyone has been looking for, for decades. Yet, I also think it is ripe for a more sinister and innocent type of abuse and dependency-psychological-and those taking it only for the appetite suppressant effect need to be able to function later in life without it, after its no longer needed in their life.
There is a very small chance of serious side effects with GLP1s, but it has typically been with people shortly after starting the drug. All drugs have the small risk of serious side effects simply because no two people react to a drug the same way.
It's already shown side effects like permanent gastroparesis and it's been vastly under reported. Most people just stop taking it and never report the side effects. I've heard a LOT of personal stories from people who never reported their issues
America has been doing this to every other country for the last 50+ years... Not just pharma either. Software is a big one. I can't say I have much sympathy for them.
Can the sugar and fast food companies pay the bill?
Why should they?
Why because you chose to eat industrial garbage knowing what it is?
@@ivydark9741because in every civilized country junk food is taxed extra to subsidize healthy foods.