How DoorDash, Grubhub & Uber Are Robbing You
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- Опубликовано: 8 сен 2024
- Uber Eats, Grubhub, and Seamless want you to blame higher prices on minimum wage laws. It’s a lie. You can read more of Cory Doctorow's work here: pluralistic.net/
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It seems like we are collectively getting more and more poor all around the world. What a scary prospective
It too bad currency and current economic policy was made up by Grognak the Destroyer, otherwise we could change it!
A very few people are getting very very rich.
well living in the US is worse right now than it was during the great depression, every company is trying to squeeze everyone for all we're worth, houses are unaffordable unless you're filthy rich, our government does nothing but line their own pockets, and social issues are at an all time high. So ya, I'd say it's getting pretty bad
@@bropoke6799 This is something that most people are failing to recognize unfortunately.
Based off the 1400s we're all pretty dang rich.
I refuse to use these services. I did it once when i was on call, and my sushi dinner cost me $63. More than half was on fees. I said "never again".
Basically my experience. Half the expense is fees, regardless of the order.
I straight up refuse to use them. I can easily cook for my self or go out to eat. I can drive or walk somewhere I need to be. The illusion of convenience they provide isn't worth nearly what they're demanding and for the damage they cause, so I just refuse to use every single one of them.
Yes, which is to be expected, you actually need to pay for a dude's income, overhead and taxes. Labor is just expensive. And then there is the profit.
@@erikschmidt476 but he's barely getting any of it
@@_Meng_Lan True, but my point is that hardly anybody is getting a lot out of it. There are videos of the restaurant owners getting screwed over. And Doordash has never made a net profit. In my opinion it is just not sustainable to have another human being consistantly deliver is just not possible for average people - unless you want to for it as a luxury or exploit employees Amazon-style.
Techbros are just the new Rentseekers.
My local pizzeria of 40+ years employs their own drivers, and I'm happy to support them.
I would rather live in a world where tech-bros lose their businesses than the mom and pop business.
@@spicywater123 I'd rather live in a world where you people realize you are just leftists who don't actually believe in your principles enough to pay the true costs of the services you feel entitled to. How much would I have to pay you to be a food gopher.
@@spicywater123 This channel votes for outsourced labor, the useful tools of "tech bros".
@@muhcharona Are you referring to the thousands of Indian guys in a closet that the tech-bros are calling "AI"
And ALL they DO …is take advantage of SUCKERS!!!
This is why Dominoes didn't need to raise prices, they kept their own delivery drivers as employees. Good decision Dominoes Pizza
They've been shutting down locations recently...
Idk about you, but in my area, Domino's delivery is more expensive and predatory than Doordash or Ubereats (also slower). Their delivery fee usually comes out to about $10 without tip. Including tip, that's $15-20 extra. This doesn't even account for their inflated, hyper-profitable prices ($16 for a large pizza??). Combine all this and you're paying around $50 just to feed 2-3 people. The ironic part? After checking out, they ask for a donation to their charity. Of course the execs will also be getting a nice cut of whatever money gets donated there too.
Dominoes delivery is $6.99 here in NYC and then these idiots expect you to tip on top of that
@@MK_ULTRA420their pizza is trash.
Ordering food used to make sense. You paid a little extra for the convenience, and it was worth it. Nowadays is more like "are you willing to pay an extra $20-25 and wait an hour for cold food so you don't have to go to the place 10 min down the street ?" . I can't remember the last time I ordered delivery.
The phone call ordering to deliver the food to your home still exist btw
That’s a damn lie
seems to be the case in my area, they're even more inexpensive than online couriers cause it was preferred
That’s if you use one of these catch-all services. Order from the restaurant and it’s still just as worth it as before.
@kojoefante yeah, it still makes sense to order, especially when local businesses go out of business (I no longer have a bakery near me for birthdays) or there are nice promos.
Then of course weather and time of day (you really wanna go late at night?) when the place isn't a couple blocks away. Just gotta compare to what they have internally (which pizza chains are usually cheaper, though Uber eats delivery for non chains doesn't charge those extra rates on top of the chain tax). Amazon prime has grubhub, so comparison is no longer the theft of joy 😂.
Uber Eats also rips off customers by not providing refunds for missing items stating your account may not be 'eligible' for a refund for no reason. FUN!
I once had someone in my same apartment complex order something at the same time as me; we switched our orders and didn't realize until later. I never found the other person, but they ordered Pad Thai--something I am lethally allergic to and cannot eat. Uber Eats told me to contact the restaurant, as if the Thai restaurant was somehow responsible for the driver mixup.
Because they can't send someone back to the restaurant for restaurants' mistakes without paying a (different) drivers again.
In the old model I would beat up the driver I hired and tell him to go again. Often he's just my dish washer who drops the dishes to deliver during rush hour.
Too many people have abused the refund systems in the past when they were easier to use
Thankfully they usually give me a refund although I have to fight for it sometimes, and the chat app doesnt refresh so unless u send some text pretty frequently youll miss your support rep which is a huge maybe intentional flaw? The problem with UE is that if you consistently have bad issues with your couriers they might stop refunding you because you look “suspicious”
You mean they need to make it kind of difficult for people to just claim they deserve money? Who would have thought!!!!
Wait. So a company established a monopoly and then raised prices?
I’m shocked!
Its not really a monopoly though is it? Now that Uber has raised prices to actual market value there will be more competition. Uber has ate more than $100 BILLION in losses since its founding. Every single quarter since they launched their IPO has been negative several billion dollars until 3 quarters ago. This is not a sustainable business model, eventually Uber has to raise their prices and their strategy of strangling out the market fails. You will probably begin to see corps like Amazon experiment with food delivery, or even new start ups with better pricing.
A monopoly can rarely occur in today's market because of the FTC and antitrust laws. A "real" monopoly occurs when a business acquires control over all aspects of a market. The best example is Standard oil purchasing an absurd amount of market share in every aspect of oil production. You truly could not compete when Standard oil owned all the oil fields, refineries, transportation, etc. and would not give you an opportunity to get into the market.
On the other hand with food delivery there is no tangible way to form a monopoly. The inputs for a food delivery app are basically just software devs and delivery drivers. Both of which are plentiful and cannot be bought as property.
SHOCKED I tell you!
Well, not that shocked
Well it's not a monopoly. By definition it simply isn't, there's a ton of delivery apps.
@@Kai...999 you're conflating quantity with market share. Door Dash, Uber Eats, and Grubhub account for 85% (and it's 93% of the market when you add in Postmates) of the market share, and Door Dash alone is almost half the market. You don't really have to compete when you have that hard a grip on the market, and collusion between two or three people at the top of companies to jack up prices is easier than when it's divided up between far more competitors
If there are indeed "tons" of apps, that means all those other myriad apps are making up only that last 7% of the market base.
Poor people pay tax. Rich people pay accountants. Wealthy people pay politicians
Most understood, underrated comment EVER!
@timetowakeup302 I screenshot your response when inevitably RUclips will make your comment that is 💯 % accurate and mines disappear for no reason! Hinse it's time to build an entire site for the people that can't be bought out!
@@mikemann1960
RUclips removes or hides 90% of my comments because I speak the truth
I would change that last one to very rich, but yes.
Those who run for office in this country, and probably most others, for the most part have always been for sale to the highest bidder. If you aren't the highest bidder, it's a pretty good chance your interests aren't represented at any level of government here. (As always minor exceptions, but overall.)
@john-paulhunt-r8d well I mean up until recently a lot of places supplied their own delivery; sometimes for an extra fee, sometimes without. The app delivery services are relatively new.
Also are you sure you're pro-worker? Just kind of funny the way you refer to workers as if they were slaves needing to be kept in line but I'm probably reading too much into it.
I've NEVER paid for anyone to deliver food to me. I have plenty of disposable income, but my philosophy is that if I don't want to go out and get it, I won't buy it.
You have no idea how much money I saved when I started doing this exact thing
Right? I’m over here thinking how is “Uber Eats” and food specific delivery an issue? I just don’t use it. Even if i needed to use it 5 times a year for those RARE times i cannot get to food and need it, those 5 times would be worth the fees.
Exactly my mentality. The problem is... People are stupid, and these tech billionaires are profiting out of people's stupidity. "Too expensive? Don't buy. Simple. Yes, it's gonna be a little less convinient. But come on, don't be lazy" is what I'd say to them.
The only time I ordered in lately was when I got Covid and strep at the same time and was contagious (and felt pretty sick). Otherwise, my ass can drive over to get what I need. Not necessary to pay double or triple what I would have to just be lazy. Ew. 😬
The issue with that is that it’s cold by the time you get home
Just walk, drive or cook at home. Ffs people, you are paying 43$ for a 12$ pizza
Truth.
I have a car and bicycle. I Refuse to use these apps. They r a total ripoff.
Yeah I never use these apps.
@@beaniemac the same folks that use these apps every day whine all over social media about the rising cost of everything.
I used the apps before. But I made the calculation of continuing to use them vs buying a cheap bike and paying that off in 12 months. For obvious regions, the bike won. I haven't looked back ever since. it's cheaper and faster. I live in a large city.
I have legs and pair of shoes. Enough to go to supermarket and buy food.
I started using them during the pandemic, but once things started going back to normal they started adding fees and jacking their prices up -- so I just stopped using them.
As a food delivery driver for the apps, I can tell you a HUGE portion of the delivery fees paid by customers are NOT going to us couriers. It's NOT profitable for us to deliver an order without reasonable tips & good pay-to-mileage ratio.
This is further complicated by the fact that people shouldn’t be tipping others to simply do their job. You drive product from one location to another, why are we tipping people for that? It’s insane. And there’s an entire culture built around getting mad at and criticizing those who don’t tip, which ultimately helps the venture capitalist and turns the working class on each other. I fully expect to receive hate for even pointing this out, and the people doing so won’t realize they are part of the problem.
@@Dumbledore6969x
“You drive a product from one location to another. Why are we tipping for that”?
Because the greedy corporations are paying the drivers peanuts (usually $2) to take you your food. If the drivers don’t get tipped, they can’t afford to stay on the road. These despicable, greedy corporations want the customers to pay the drivers wages (via tips) on top of all the other exorbitant fees. If a driver doesn’t see a tip on the order, chances are he’s not taking it because if he does he’s losing money and working for nothing. No one works for free. Free market capitalism at its finest, hey?
I used to deliver for these apps. Word of advice, if you don’t tip your driver, then you should expect your food to arrive cold or not at all. And don’t blame the driver, blame the greedy Ubers and Door Dash’s of the world for not paying them 💩
@@Dumbledore6969x agree. drivers should get 100% of their livable wage from the app company.. i.e. their employer. unfortunately it's not like that right now, and as a result drivers barely get what they need to stay afloat, and customers turn on each other and drivers on the topic of tipping.. i hate it
@Dumbledore6969x Exactly, I'm a door dash driver and a few years ago they used to pay us 3 dollars flat per order and then they lowered it to 2.50 and a couple months ago they lowered it to 2 dollars flat. At the same time they are increasing delivery fees for consumers and telling you it goes to us. They are putting the onus on you to pay us a livable wage and pitting us against each other while profiting from it and staying out of the limelight.
@@Dumbledore6969x You might get hate from your fellow countryman. But for us non-US people, we applaud you for realizing how hostile the tipping culture is.
The day I quit Doordash, I made $10 in 2 hours doing 2 deliveries, and both customers were unhappy.
Same. I just quit. I’m think this should be a class action law suit
@@maescreativespace444 Doordash settled a class action suit because they were caught using part of higher tipping customer tips as base pay. If a customer left $15.00, DD would tell the Dasher that the base pay was 4.50 and the tip was 10.50.
I would wait hours before being offered a ten mile trip for 4 bucks. And this was when I was a top dasher. And then the Walmart orders wouldn’t stop coming in. I hated those because most of the time I would carry ten bags of groceries up to the top or second to top floor of an apartment building. I quit doing deliveries for DoorDash after I got into a car accident.
On uber eats I have been online 26 hours this week. So far I have made $25. Less than $1 per hour.
depends on the market, some are bad but some aaare good. On Sunday, in 5.5 hours, I made $146.
37 and never used any delivery service. I just order takeout and pick it up myself. Nothing I'm doing is important enough that I can't afford a 10-15 minute trip.
Good for you! I hope you never get sick or become disabled without any friends to pick things up for you. You’re blessed!
@@genesisjames5409 Whats that got to do with anything? I never said anything about people who use delivery services.
@@genesisjames5409barring disability, that is why instant non perishable meals are a thing, such as canned ravioli
@@genesisjames5409For such cases I have a few frozen pizzas.
But if you're disabled, then in my opinion you shouldn't live alone anyway.
Smart man
I sure miss food delivery. It's nearly impossible to find which restaurants still offer in house deliveries and I refuse to pay $30 for a $15 meal.
I'm fed up that even when you use the restaurant app, they still sub it out to door dash or uber eats.
yup even if I just want to place a pickup order Im still forced to use doordash which the restaurant has a big upcharge on
That's because the majority of these restaurants don't have their own delivery drivers. As a full time delivery driver my income depends on customers ordering delivery however if you don't like it than the answer is simple go get your own food. Believe me I'll be ok because I deliver to plenty of customers who understands these restaurants don't pay for their own drivers because it's cheaper just to use 3rd party. Drivers like myself has been saying that for years.
@@joshuaevans3499 ty for your service
@@kevintyson1947just call the restaurant. Most non-chain restaurants don't have their own way of letting customers order online, but they will accept a phone order.
@@joshuaevans3499 You truly think its better to let DD and Ubereats etc rip of the place you work for than to see the owner invest in workers doing delivery where everyone benefits more than any possible outcomes from these apps? Do you think DD and these other apps are actually better than an owner deciding to have a few drivers??? Im genuinely asking as i cannot wrap my head around it. A website for food orders is trivial, you can roll out delivery slowly, you can have employees doing more than only delivery so you can adjust to demand, etc. Like, how is it not better to do your own delivery?
The thing that is really hidden aren't the fees. It's that the price of the items are higher in the app than they are at the store. Anywhere from 1 to $5 more on just general house items and take out food.
And they don't pass on that amount to the restaurant. So they are charging you more than the restaurant and then taking more from the restaurant so the only person who's winning in this equation is Uber.
@@CatyBee Sounds scammy. The workers always suffer and are exploited because they need the money. Without the drivers/shoppers those businesses would collapse. I don't think employees think about that or would be strong and unite with others.
Yep. You can see this on Ubereats just by toggling between "pick up in store" versus "delivery" on the billing page. The items are usually a quarter to a third more if you select delivery.
Its not hidden. Its up to the buyer to research the price of something and see if they can get it cheaper elsewhere. If you buy delivery and have not noticed that its more expensive, or hell just used common sense to assume itll cost more than you are beyond saving.
@@stephenmisener1659Some restaurants play along with their online menus matching the app menus in price. Only going in and sitting down will you get the real price. Going in and sitting down also usually gets you a better portion that you can take the extra home and eat later. What you're given for pickup is far less than what you're given when you eat-in at places such as Buffalo wild Wings.
Such companies should never have existed in the first place. If they can't survive by paying fair wages from the start, it's a sign that their business model is fundamentally flawed.
"No Business Which Depends for Existence on Paying Less Than Living Wages to Its Workers Has Any Right to Continue in This Country." - FDR.
We used to know these things.
this is capitalism. it allows business to be created and survive on just capital, when they are not actually a profitable business. they are then able to grow faster than a real company would, which means their value goes up, which is how the investors make money. this continues until they run all the real businesses that cant compete and capture the market. then they cash in and enshittify.
capitilism is not a fair system that rewards good business, it's just a tool for wealthy people to abuse our economy and extract money from the poor and extinguish small business, without having to have good useful products that can actually compete.
@@ohiasdxfcghbljokasdjhnfvaw4ehrActually the problem is regulators allowing Uber to underprice taxis and then when they squeezed them out of the market - jacking up rates. At the first sign of Uber underpricing - regulators should have told them they have little room to later jack up rates since after driving out the competition they will then act like a monopoly . This is simply predatory business behavior.
Absolutely ... common sense well said! 💯🟪
@@JuicerNation Once in place, unfortunately, not everyone has the luxury to say no.
Stop using their service and make your own food, or go to the restaurant yourself to get your food.
People who are unwilling to sacrifice convenience are the reason why the current state of the industry won't change.
I thought driving a car to get your food that is walking distance is laziness. Well having food deliver to your door wins the laziest award
They had big investment money to go cheaper than everyone for a long period that put everyone else out of business than jacked prices. Bait n switch.
The business model is undercut prices to destroy existing businesses, then when they have the monopoly jack up prices, bully suppliers, and exploit workers.
That's literally the business model from the gilded age.
Exactly, very normal scheme for this century
Monopoly Economics 101
Gas stations do this too.
Former restaurant owner here and i can tell the economics never worked in the first place
Yeah, it was heavily subsidized by venture capital and the chickens have come to roost now.
Indeed.😊
The economics work in areas with enormous density like China, India, and other parts of Asia. One courier can grab orders from 6 restaurants that are all within 200 meters of each other, and then deliver them to different floors of the same apartment building.
Any city that is built for cars instead of people - yes the economics fall apart immediately.
@@lain2k3 this is a good point. Wear and tear on vehicles isn't factored into the delivery cost, and drives often underestimate how their driving impacts the car itself. Wear and tear on a bike or your feet is obviously way less, so it makes a better return. And, as you say, even if you're driving, delivering 6 orders in your car is much better than delivering 1-2, both for the customers and the drivers.
an an owner, why would you not just begin to roll out delivery, maybe just on certain days or times at first, see how it goes and grow it out if its good? Like, its not like anyone is stopping an establishment from doing this on their own. Can you tell me why not just do your own delivery if it could boost sales by like 40%, then is it not economical with no middle man?
Door dash driver here. The jacked up prices and lower pay is cutting my pay in half
100% I used to do Grub hub from 2017-2020 and made way more than I have the last few months driving for Doordash. Way lower pay per delivery (a bunch of $2-$3 orders) and way more miles per delivery. Things like a 30- 40mi round trip to a town not even in the delivery area I dash in for $9 in compensation
I believe it. So unfortunate
My god
Lol i would quit. That is a waste of time and money. @TheHalfBlackReaper
It is all in how the companies shift blame to you and other workers. I was working in a restaurant when a min wage increase went through. On the checks the company stated putting "service fee" at the bottom. This was the offset the $1.25 min wage went up. What happened was people say the fee and started tipping less. That place went from a place you would get great service to one where they can't even keep servers for more than 6 months. (Before they did that most the servers were there going on 5+ years.)
90% of the population don't NEED to use these apps. Get your a$$ off the couch, and go get your food.
You're right, it's a luxury service. Which demands luxury pay to the drivers. Which their greedy apps take about 80% of the fees of.
Nobody is making anyone use these delivery platforms. Like just stop? Not saying what theyre doing isnt scummy, just dont feed them
You forgot what it did to grocery delivery. It used to be the stores offered it for free to customers with disabilities that made it hard or impossible to shop in person. Now we're paying all these fees and mark-ups just for being disabled. I've had to stop buying from the grocery store at all and now shop at Walmart simply because it's all I can afford and it's the definitely the added costs of going through the app that makes the difference.
You are so right. They used to offer free delivery even if you came in and shopped as long it was over a certain amount like $100.
ugh thats terrible. dont know how to fix this problem, but wishing you good vibes. hope theres some help on the way. seems like everything is going to sh-t :(
@@T.R.75 we need to get back to being communities and not isolated consumers and producers. Our current society sees people like me as dead weight simply because we can't contribute to the system in the way it wants. I've been thinking about trying to setup an irl meetup for my local "buy nothing"/"swip swap" groups. Figure they're going to be the best group to start with but in the end we all need to stop interacting with the world through screens etc and start making that tiny extra effort to make IRL friends. And there's something you can do to help people like me: offer to do our grocery shopping for us. I garuntee there's someone in your community that could use the help, so go find them and give it. All it takes is adding their list to yours when you go to the store 🥰
I honestly never thought about that. I’m so sorry that sounds terrible.
@@Sunshineattacks3 appreciate the sympathy, please let it move you to find a way to support a disabled person in your community. You have no idea how much just a short visit can mean to someone who only leaves home to see a doctor.
Also, love the name 🌄💕
I was going to order a pizza the other day because they had a deal for a 3 topping, large pizza for $9.99, that's a good deal. After spending about 5-10 mins deciding what all I was going to get, at the checkout I was informed that I had to place a minimum order of $17.95 for delivery. Then the delivery fee is $5 and the tax was $2 and then I am supposed to also tip the driver. That $10 offer came out to $27 and some change. Of course, I closed the app and made a sandwich.
Imagine just going to pick it up???????????????????????????? Y’all are so insufferable I stg 😭😭
Just buy a frozen pizza and keep it in your freezer so next time your tempted you don't have to make a sandwich but can have Digiorno delivered in 30 minutes or less straight out of your oven!
@@brandonp5019Like the friend said in the video, it’s not a sin to want convenience. Also, some people are disabled? I literally can’t drive or bike. I try to use public transport but it’s not reliable nor is it accessible. If the food isnt within a 5 minute walking distance of me I just don’t eat. Before I moved to where I live now there was nothing for MILES, so I had to use DoorDash if I wanted to eat anything aside from bugging my very busy roommate who worked crazy hours just to survive to drive me to the store.
Maybe consider other people live very different lives to you.
@@brandonp5019You can’t. The deal is only through the app. If you’ve never used the app, just say that.
@@brandonp5019the point of the app is to not go pick it up, but it's currently too expensive to do it. Dumbass comment fr, you think I wouldn't make food at home if I wanted to? Smh
The other day my cousin tried to order some creamy chicken pasta with a slice of chocolate cake and it came to $63!!! She closed the app and went to the supermarket and bought all the ingredients separately instead 😂😂 cost half as much!
Half as much with more supply for less
Wow if it’s only cost double to go and buy the thing and make it yourself, that’s worth getting delivery for. Or supermarkets are too expensive
@@jasondads9509 gotta remember - when you are baking a chocolate cake, you likely dont make a single slice... and when making pasta you likely dont make a single plate
so its paying half for 2-4 times as much food
The real game changer is actually group meal prepping
@@jasondads9509keeping yourself miserable
They aren't robbing you. You simply got addicted to the artificially low prices and now are paying for the full price.
Well, acting like these new food delivery apps aren't offering a service that didn't exist before is a bit disingenuous. Sure, maybe in New York City (and other cities like it) nearly every restaurant offered delivery prior to online delivery apps, but the rest of the country could only get Pizza and Chinese food delivered... Not only that, but these delivery apps also make shopping for food delivery incredibly easy. You only have to look in one place versus googling and tracking down each separate restaurant's menu and then ordering online (if they offer that) or calling them.
Everything else you're saying is absolutely true and I'm not defending these apps nor the way they treat their workers and customers. But pretending like food delivery was just as easy and just as accessible before is completely and utterly false. There's definitely a pretty large service they offer, but the way they're going about it is horrible, for sure.
I've never used a delivery app.
Yeah, just order directly from the restaurant.
@@bevinboulder5039 that's great assuming you live in a place with a lot of restaurants that deliver and you're within their range. Most places don't do delivery anymore cause companies like door dash and uber eats exist. Did you even watch the video?
@@bevinboulder5039Right on, and be careful because DoorDash and others theme their software and integrate into existing websites making us think it's the business and not some delivery giant in the background.
Wish I didn't have to rely on a delivery app given my situation. Can't wait to delete them.
Me too, too pricey and I could smell douchebagary from a mile away.
I don't know how anybody can afford food delivery through these apps.
Not when it costs more than the gd food.
Even if you're pulling in 6 figures in the midwest the math isn't there if you're doing your finances right.
@@Joe-Przybranowski There was a reason why restaurants had minimum order amounts for delivery.
Disabled people are at the mercy of this scam.
I wouldnt even use an app if youre picking food up. Youll always be paying more, just call it in.
In todays world, no one really invent or makes a new thing to make lives easier- to solve a problem. Now most everyone invents a problems and we have to pay to solve the problem where it didnt exist a few years prior.
Yep! Nowadays people are trying to solve problems we didn’t have in the past that were just made up by corporations
@@mb3938 Well the problem actually was created by the goverment in 2021 when it told all the non-essential citizens to lock themselves in thier homes for 15 days or months... I forget which. Something about "stopping the spread" of economic opporunity and seeking ways to improve thier own lives via capitalistic ventures.
Guys, it's not hard to phone an order , pick up at the restaurant, and go back to your house. Not only that but you don't have to tip anyone, you don't have to wait sometimes an hour for your food. Restaurant food in general will always be expensive, but why add more cost to your dinner if you can just pick it up yourself. Seriously. Don't be lazy.
I've DELETED ALL GIG APPS....... BIG SAVINGS!!!!
Nice one!!
Good for you, many of them are just spyware on your phone anyways.
I WORK ON THE GIG APPS....... MEDIUM-SIZED EARNINGS!!!!
yeah, i considered it till I checked what the price estimate was and realized i could drive out, get it myself, get a full tank of gas, and still have money left over.
@@jer1776 Google already spread that information out. 😂
I only used Uber eats twice. When it was a free 35 dollars order....and when it was half off.
I only used it when I was sick
I'm on the other side (flowers, not food) and when we first got on Doordash most of the orders were heavily discounted by Doordash. After the discounts stopped, orders dropped off a cliff. So you are not alone.
I had to draw the line at the "fuck you" fee.
What about the fee fee?
@@yds6268 How about the existence fee?
That reference was TIGHT!
I remember walking in a local Chinese restaurant to order take out. They were so surprised when I said we didn't have an app order number and just wanted to order in person. But they seemed really happy about it. Made me feel like doing that more often.
I've said since the 1970's, the difference between poor people and rich people is that rich people know that you spend your money a dollar at a time.
I deleted DoorDash 4 months ago and now I’m bombarded with, “60% off your next order” emails. Terrible! This channel has brought to light many of my sentiments about workers rights.
Unsubscribe.
99‰ of companies that do email marketing have a link at the bottom. Most of them are one click... The most I run into is 3.
Some will make you sign in and I typically just block them instead.
You can just do a search in your email for "Unsubscribe" and it will bring up all of the emails with the link.
I even saw briefly that Gmail had an option to Unsubscribe from ALL marketing emails. But I have no idea how I got that option or how to get it again.
I wouldn't be surprised if it's gone now anyway....
Can you block them or do thet use different email accounts?
@@GumbleSmithers-nd6vg Yep, blocking them was the only option.
@@YOGIROBBIEthere is option unsubscribe in every email 👌
Workers have rights. They have the right to leave a job they feel isn't paying them enough and secure a better job. No one is forced to click "accept fare" in a delivery app (at least in the free countries)
I delivered pizza before UberEats and DoorDash where a thing.
Second job thing. part time two days a week. For a small pizza parlor with little buisness.
It paid for the downpayment on my house.
That should sink in.
@AnonymousAnarchist2 out of curiosity: how much have pizza delivery income and house costs changed since then?
@@omduggineni Well I did try driving for UberEats last year just because I got curious.
Delivery income is significantly less, about $15/hr less comparing a friday night driving for Uber; to my wesnday take home. I figure that may make up for any inexperience I had with Uber. My friday take homes doing direct delivery where averaging about $200 for a four hour shift, but that doesnt take into account car maitiance and gas spent. Wensdays where averaging about 80-100 about 20-25/hr, and all shifts had minimum wage paid on top of the take home.
And stress+distance traveled for average delivery significantly higher further cutting into the total take home for the driver. Not to mention the increased cost to gas and matainince.
The home comp in that neighbourhood, for that particular floor plan has gone from 300k to 500k from the time it was bought.
@@omduggineniI delivered pizza part time before I graduated from university this summer and your comment made me want to do the math for this. Where I live, it would take over 2 years of delivering part time to save up the minimum down payment on an average priced house. But the pizza restaurant I worked for had just recently joined the delivery apps and it seemed like the owners were hoping to end in-house delivery if they could… so I’m not sure how long those jobs will even last
@@omdugginenibasically, you could still pick up a part time delivery job to save a down payment for a house IF you want to work an extra 10 hours a week for the next 2 years (though most likely longer than that), AND IF those jobs even exist in a few years. The restaurant I worked at had been in business for 30+ years and was one of the few places in town that still used company-owned delivery cars (or else you would need to subtract the costs for/decrease in value of your own vehicle from your earnings)
@@omduggineni I guess Google didnt like my first reply;
Delivery for app's is about 30% less then it was for a single restraunt. Tried the apps thinking the income would be the same, and I should note that for the app I drove much further then delivery range for the in house so Im sure car maitainince and repair would be higher.
Home costs have gone up about 80%.
Never used door dash or Uber and never will!!
I used it while delivery was free or discounted. The normal price is way too high for regular use!
Yup. I'd rather pick up my own food or cook myself. Don't trust random delivery people handling my food. I barely trust the cooks who make it. 😎🎭✌️
@@stevenotero2627 Neither do the restaraunts... which is why most seal thier packages so you can tell if it's be tampered by a driver pissed they accepted an unprofitable fare and refuse to seek a job requiring more skill.
i mean, if you don't like something, don't use it. That's one of the core principals behind capitalism...
Saying "Don't tell me not to use it" is the same thing as saying "1+1=3".
Half of it has to do with a great majority of customers thinking the service is catering. It's not catering. It's just a simple food delivery service. Once the order is placed and paid; you are getting what you ordered. There's no "You changed your mind and now want something else". The driver is not going to make a return round trip to bring a fixed order.
1:22 You don't need to use those apps. Order from the few restaurants who still use their own drivers or cook your own food.
Cooking is so easy. It’s literally just find a recipe, follow instructions, wait for cook time.
I’m very surprised more people don’t just make their own pizza and stuff. Tastes way better than any of that greasy slob you get from any co
Yup!
Agree!!!
35% inflation in 5 years is not a sustainable rate. Wages have gone down by a huge percentage in the past five years to add to that.
The "Donation to Billionaires" fee should be listed.
I mean “service fee” is it. I also call it the “fee fee” or the “might as well fee”.
Thank you
People saying "pick up food yourself" forgetting that disabled people exist
technically we have 2 or 3 generations of disabled people. that's why the world we live in is what it is. cuz you so smart.
I ordered food by online food ordering only once in my life when I had flu. The cost was nearly 50% higher than takeout. Now restaurants are pushing 25% tip for takeout. Best thing is to learn cooking.
"Learn cooking" lol, as though it is some lost art or skill...
Step 1) Procure uncooked food.
Step 2) Apply heat.
Step 3) Stop applying heat when cooked.
I think some people struggle primarily with step 3^.
Even just buying pre cooked food items at a grocery store can be a lot cheaper than ordering food.
I lived overseas for a decade, then came back to Australia in 2020. I noticed that everyone was now getting Uber Eats, which was new, and also that the delivery people were all recent immigrants getting exploited by being paid peanuts. They mostly give off an unhappy and stressed out vibe. A big change in the culture and nation has happened, it's driven by greed, and it's not good.
Oh I didn't know it was also happening in Australia!
And so much yes to the immigratants and them getting paid peanuts.
I keep trying to tell people this is why so many people were allowed to immigrate into the US recently but people call me racist.
I'm like no, EVERYONE of every race that was already a US citizen started to complain about wage stagnation etc and demanding more money. Then suddenly BOTH Trump and Biden administrations are letting in more immigrants... All while saying they are trying to control it and lower the amount... And that they care about people who make little money.
.. I'm like come on! They are BOTH lying to you. They are helping the rich get richer.
The only reason Biden started to lock down the border is because of the election cycle.
I would not be surprised if a suddenly immigration restrictions are eased again somehow a few months after the election.... No matter WHO gets in off.
But mind you, it will be through the court system or congress and not the president. The president will stay on the high horse claiming they are trying.
It's the same nonsense with Biden and student loans. It's all just a play to keep people investing in the system.. The system that mostly benefits the ultra rich.
{insert gif of a minecraft player riding a pig with a carrot on a string}. We the not in the 1% are not the player......
Politics is a fucking farce... Both parties are controlled by the same people.
Capitalism IS greed. Our entire economy is based on it. More profits forever.
Well, I've been an American citizen for my entire life, I work doordash, and I've made more than $80 an hour some nights...
It is a form of slavery that is currently acceptable.
Where do most of Australia"s immigrants come from?
We JUST went thru this when we went on a trip and our hotel had no room service. We tallied up a order for a family of 6 and Doordash looked to charge us $226-before tip. After my husband caught his breath, we placed a order directly with the actual restaurant that was only 5 blocks away( we learned that when placing directly), so we opted to pick up. It ended up costing us $160- still kneebuckling for we blue coller workers, but we had just driven in and we were dead-dog tired. Still, a $66 difference before tip..
Too lazy to go to pick it up yourself, there are people who need to get paid to deliver, that delivery person should get $100.00. For going that 5 blocks carrying your food. They earned it
@@dedrakuhn6103 just to be clear, they did pick it up themselves
@@dedrakuhn6103 LMAO bud, that delivery person would not have gotten the 100, more like 20 and the rest would go to the app company.
@@dedrakuhn6103u missed the point of the video
@@dedrakuhn6103 It helps to read a comment before you type a dumb response to it 🤣
Call ahead and get it yourself! These apps and corporations are evil.
Or just order through "normal" delivery. I live in a retirement home and many of us have physical challenges and can't go in person to the restaurant. If you order enough times from local restaurants, the delivery people start to recognize you and they go out of their way to be helpful and courteous. One other reason I stopped using delivery apps; too many drivers who don't speak English and are basically illegal immigrants. Sorry but I'm a U.S. citizen. I worked hard for my money and I want it to go to someone who is an honest, hard working, LEGAL citizen .
Suck it up, buddy
Those apps... are a consumer choice... not evil. They would be evil if they had a gun to your head forcing you to use it. They exist because there are some people who value the service it provides them at the price they agree to. An evil person who want to get in the way of that free voluntary transaction/negotiation because they personally don't like it.
This is NOT inflation. Stop using that term for every fee that corporations tack on to a service. The price to use DoorDash, Uber eats, grubhub, etc. are wildly expensive because:
1. Meal prices are higher through these apps vs at the restaurant to make up for the exorbitant cost to the restaurant from the service.
2. Service fees for placing your order through the app are based on your order total… the higher the food cost, the higher the service fee.
3. The delivery fee typically only partially goes to the driver, the other half-ish goes back to the service for arranging and tracking the delivery.
4. The driver tip is likely the REAL incentive for drivers to take your order so if you skip or skimp on it, expect the driver to be doing several others along with yours to actually create a decent payout.
5. The convenience of being able to order exactly what you want from where you want without having to leave home IS a luxury and SHOULD be priced as such. This is not the same as ordering from domino’s, who has a limited service area and dedicated drivers.
If you want takeout to be more affordable, get off your couch and go pick it up. That’s what we do in my house.
“Don’t tell me I don’t need to use these apps!”
Uh, you don't need restaurant delivery at all.
Thank you! Exactly my thoughts! How did we become THIS lazy? Food delivery once in a very long while is OK, there are good reasons: New in town, don't have your kitchen stuff set up yet, super tired after a day of hard work... Etc.. But those are rare occasions. Learn to cook, simple food is easy to cook people, most day to day foods can be cooked in under an hour, that's how much time you are waiting for your overpriced fast food crap anyway ;)
One day a few years ago, my coworkers and I decided to order from a restaurant down the street. The place was less than a mile away. 3 platters came to $67 on a delivery app. That price was insane. I offered to go inside and order the food in person. So I did. Omg. The total came to $45. Literally, we would have paid an extra $22 in delivery and app fees, and that was not including a tip!
I decided then and there that I would NEVER use an app to deliver my food.
Right, that is why I don't use them.
Congrats on participaing in capitalism. You made the cost/benefit analysis and chose the option that worked in your best interest for the time. Freedom is such a wonderful thing.
There used to be a saying: eliminate the middle man to save money. Now middle men are in every aspect of the economy. For example: rent. Apt management companies are going to keep rents high to justify their fees. Owners get a check while apt mgrs cheat you out of your deposit to do what few renovations they need to the place and.to justify their never ending fees increass to the owner. Everything is a vicious circle of greed.
As a driver, if you think that's crazy. I have had passengers pay $48 for a 2.5-mile trip. Driver pay $9 . I had to drive 6 miles to pick up. 8.5 miles. So, just over a buck a mile. $39 to Uber. They're taking all the profit out of rides now, and they don't care. People need to find alternatives to Uber or Lyft Both companies are doing it
This reminds me of one of the times I rented a car to drive for passengers Uber.
I got a ride that took me 30mins one way. My pay was less than $15 and the passager I think paid like $40.
I know Uber pays for insurance and they have staff and ARE providing a work opportunity but come on..they are probably still making a 40% profit margin. That's not ok.
That's why I stop driving for Uber and all other rideshare rides if you do you lose money and end up broke they don't care if you survive or make money they already have desperate drivers and illegal immigrants with fake accounts
But you pressed the button.... You agreed that rate. But wait you say: Another driver would have taken the fare... Well your fellow drivers set the rate you are being paid.... not Uber. This is how captialism works. If the competition can deliver the same service far more effciently they and the consumer will win. You as the capitalist will need to inovate and produce a better product or skill to be more competive and comand a higer price for your service. On demand delivery rates were always going to plummet to lower and lower amounts as the skill required literally has no barrier to entry other than maintaining a functional and efficient vehicle.
@@Junior.illinois Which is why countries with an open boarder policy specifically to import more competition for the low skill labor pool is a slow moving economic disaster waiting to happen. Vote accodingly.
It's stupid people that use these apps. Why would you even pay 3x for something you can get for literally 1/3rd the price?
So basically what this video is saying is. Uber eats and Door Dash charges the restaurant a fee to advertise the food and a fee to deliver the food and the restaurant then charges the person ordering the food more just to make back the money Uber eats and Door Dash is charging them plus some. So crazy how prices gradually gone up for this service. People do yourself a favor and order your food then drive or walk to go pick it up. If that's not an option learn to cook at home.
For non delivery drivers:
The drivers are NOT legally protected employees. Every delivery gig accepted is not a regular job, it is an individual gig. The drivers don't get wages, or salaries, or regular benefits or insurance. They have to keep track of their pay and take out taxes on their own. They don't have guaranteed hours of anything. The base pay without tips is extremely low. It's $2-$3 for a couple of miles. And if you're already on a delivery, it might ask you to add another for $1, I kid you not. We're reliant on tips like a waiter/waitress is. This is bad for bother the driver and the customer. If the custoner doesn't tip, it's like all drivers will reject the delivery offer, and Uber will slowly offer more pay until a driver takes it. But by then the food will be cold. If they would offer a good pay, like at least $5/delivery and $1 extra/mile, maybe it would work out then and we wouldn't be so reliant on tips. On top of that though, the food in the app is usually much more expensive than in the restaurant. So the custoner is paying an up charge, a delivery fee, AND tips in the end. It's a bad experience for everyone.
I tried relying on uber, doordash, instacart, spark, Roadie, etc. But it's not reliable at all. Instead, I got a traditional delivery driver job for a pizza/calzone restaurant. I make $11/hr, extra pay for each trip, plus tips.
It sad that Uber/DoorDash only pay $2 + tips in my market regardless the distance or time. Rideshare not much better. They pay more then $2 for a ride but hardly anyone tips on rideshare unlike the food deliveries. However, the pay could be $4 for 8 miles though. I saw one for $33 for 60+ miles one way before. 20+ min trips on Uber are often under $6 now days. And I actually can make more money with food delivery over rideshare because of tipping. And the apps are so much more over-saturated. That both Uber and Lyft flipped flop each other. Meaning I used to make a lot more on Uber then Lyft a few years ago. But now Uber is worse then Lyft. Lyft really never gotten better. Just that Uber gotten that bad. But any tips help. But if you tip me $1 on rideshare I change your rating to 1 star. Because it is not fair if someone pays $30 to transport you and the driver getting $11. And you decide to tip only $1 to make it $12. Not even half the money a rider pays goes to the driver. It has been as low as a 3rd of what the driver earns. And it has gotten lower with time. But still a lot better then almost any jobs in my state. The most I made from a delivery job was at my local Dominos. Make $8 an hour plus tips. But they treated us horribly. My 1st job at McDonalds treated us better. But like I said I made the most of a w2 job at Dominos. Other delivery shops like Pizza Hut or Marcos paid under $7.25 an hour because of tips. And now days store like Pizza Hut are using DoorDash to deliver. So I can not imagine how worse it is now for workers competing against gig drivers. They probably delivery less orders due to the stores not wanting to pay their own drivers. And the store make more money outsourcing to gig jobs. When I worked at Marcos I remember being paid $3 when I was on the road. But minimum wage ($7.25) when in the store. But was still using my own car to deliver. And I spent more time on the road. And here most jobs pay under $15 an hour as minimum wage is still $7.25 an hour. Been asking a few people when transporting how much they earn at their job because I been searching for other work. And I get a lot of $10-$12 an hour from passengers. And none of this are tip wage jobs. It is hell out there.
Door Dash doesn't even pay the extra dollar anymore for that added delivery.
Now you're just trying to keep billionaires from being billionaires. Commie, fascist, socialist, pinko freeloader.
I can imagine it's much more peaceful working for one restaurant than relying on the people's whims. Hourly wages are a blessing. (I tried doing Lyft and earned $0.)
💯most customers have no clue how F’ed it is for drivers.
Behold people: the Walmart model applied to the internet. Enter a market, edge out competition, then raise prices so the execs get paid combined with not having affordable alternatives. The same thing gets repeated over and over again. If I want to get a pizza, I go and pick it up at the store after ordering via phone or net or even just going to the store and ordering in person. Sure it takes longer, but I know that the money goes to that store directly instead of middlemen.
Yes, it's every single industry now.
And even after going to pick your own pizza those bastards will ask you to tip.
I must be very out of touch because I always pick up my own food. "Don't tell me I don't need to use these apps." You don't.
I know. He should learn to cook. I have literally never used these apps and I very rarely eat out.
Same here. I don't bother cuz I know they're rippoffs and everyone involved except the executives get screwed over
I always call in my food too and pay in person. Takes me way longer to enter my credit card online or in an app and they still have the nerve to charge a "convenience fee".
I never order food online. Either I go eat out or I cook for myself. This saves a lot of money.
When are we going to start blaming the consumer as well? I know plenty of people who are too lazy to pick their own food… people have to vote with their wallet and live within their means
As an Uber Eats driver I can tell you 90% of the offers we get are low ball ones, asking us to drive many miles for not much pay. I could get a dozen offers in a night but only accept 2 of them because the others are bad or might even cost me money rather than me earning money.
Congrats for taking the initiative for negotiating your own salary for the labor you were willing to provide. We wouldn't need a minimum wage had more people would learn this versus crying to the goverment because they took a job that did pay well.
Anyone who make less than 150k and uses Uber eats on a regular basis is just dumb with money.
Almost anyone with money and uses Goober eats is just dumb with their money...
Agree 1,000%
Why $150k?
@@davidelliott5265 for me it seems just like the right amount of money to earn to consider yourself upper middle class as a single person.
*_Yes! There is a way to not use those apps: Don’t have food delivered to you! Pick it up yourself or cook at home_*
Basically being forced to pay for the employee. Forced to pay a tip.
I've never used any of these. People who do are usually on the pathway to obesity or have already arrived. Think in advance, buy your food and prep it. You'll enjoy it more and live longer. Not to mention you can avoid feeling like you got screwed with fees and tips and nonsense.
I hate this timeline.
You are most likely a part of the problem.
@@Orcawhale1 LOL ... ain't that the truth! 🤣🟪
@@Orcawhale1 Say how. Don't just claim shit for no reason. Nuance is required.
@@VVVVV99611 Have you looked at the world recently?
@@Orcawhale1 Still very vague. How is he "part" of The Problem? The only way majority of common folk contribute to the problem is through constant disconnection from themselves (mentally and physically) via technology usually, and/or being assholes. Negativity breeds negativity. Obviously this is part of the systematic Problem.
I'm 45.. I've had food delivered to my home maybe 6 times in my entire life (when I was sick or injured). I always go to the restaurant / diner and just pickup my own food.
Same, only two for when I’m sick
People are so lazy. It's why Amazon is thriving. People don't wanna get off their ass and on there feet to do anything. Well except Tik Tok dances
And you probably ate hotter, fresher food as a result. Even if I had the extra money to throw at these services… I wouldn’t, because I can do it faster.
People are acting like delivery is a human right
@@ling636 there was a twitter feed where a young woman thought that vaccines and Uber where human rights, we are hosed
DoorDash pays $2 base + tip if any and the driver assumes all risks, provides labor and a car plus bare all expenses. And they have the audacity to deactivate you if their ridiculous metrics are not met.
The best part is, all the extra you paid towards food delivery, like $15 "delivery fee“ over an $20 menu item, only $5 goes towards the delivery driver while the other $10 goes to billionaires shareholders of Uber.
As if the entire overhead and operation costs of the entire Uber operations is $0. We really need to impove the quality of basic education in this country.
@@ArtieMcDonald No one said it does not cost money to run the company, bootlicker. But when Uber charges riders $100 to go to the airport and pays the driver, who does the heavy lifting $30, it's downright criminal. If it cost them 70% of the fare to run a company, they should close.
All I hear from people is 'they they they.' No it's you, you downloaded the app, you order the food, you pay the salaries. Companies don't exist without people.
100%... Its the drivers too. they downloaded the app, turned it on, saw the pay amount and clicked "accept". Capitalism benefits two parties... One exchanges labor for money... the other saves time by getting a product in far less time than they would produce it themself which then can then use to pursue some other profitable activity (or get more leisure time). Sadly for many, that time saved is spent being lazy ordering basic foods on delivery apps and complaining about the evils of capitalism on thier expensive ipad.
the problem is not food delivery. the problem is the derps who still use it.
I don't use these apps anymore. Its a massive rip off
No tip no trip
Paying for overpriced delivery for overpriced restaurant food is an amazingly stupid waste of money.
Thank you, I thought I was the only one that thought this way.
Yup. That’s it. Pretty simple.
Not all restaurant food is stupidly overpriced. I mean how much would you charge someone to make a pizza for them? Profit margins are pretty slim for most places, esp if they use actual food and not factory nozzle squirted bs ingredients
I’ve considered buying a bike, a hot bag and printing some flyers offering food delivery for an 8 dollar flat rate delivery fee. No tips, no hidden fees. Just the delivery fee and the amount the food costs so I can pay when I pick it up.
It would be a win win, customers would save money and doordash and Uber eats would have local competition.
That's what the drivers should do. Get together and start their own business that would pay alot more fairly, compensate them for use of their personal vehicle, gas, at least half the insurance and maybe full medical and have safety measures and support each other.
5 deliveries per hour, 8 hours a day, 5 days a week, 52 weeks a year puts you at median New York state household income.
I'd be up for that, too.
@@nalgene247 realistically 2-3 deliveries per hour, 6 hours a day, 7 days a week, 52 weeks a year , ~43,680$/year before tax
@@martina5296 not all drivers,that would oversaturate the market lol.
You don't need them. Either order from someone who has their own drivers, or go pick it up yourself. You're whining about them, while 100% supporting them.
It's not only greedy CEO's fault but it's also people's fault for being lazy and not doing the research or using these apps. How about walking in your neighborhood or driving five miles to pickup food. Doesn't it says a lot about people who fall for these gimmicks! Only in US....you wonder why only in America Corporate CEOs get away from lying, cheating and over charging its consumers!
Uber basically cut all their drivers payouts in half. It sucks anymore doing rides. Usually 150 rides in a week get you around 2k. Now it’s a struggle to get anywhere near that. We as drivers feel it big time and not enough people are speaking out about it. It’s criminal how they manipulate things behind closed doors and algorithms only for us to feel it on the clock. They need to be investigated by the FBI. Maybe there is one or more investigations right now ongoing. Who knows.
I stop driving as Uber driver is not money to be made on this apps I was losing money just to keep driving putting gas and not to mention all other cost maintenance etc is pointless being an independent contractor make them rich and us poor and broke
I would actually enjoy driving for Uber/Lyft, but there's 2 problems: 1. The driver does not know what the fare is. 2. Uber/Lyft do not pay the driver an appropriate cut of the fare (and they hide the fare from the driver). 3. Most drivers have no idea how much the true cost of wear and tear on their vehicle.
@@treesnmoguls That is so true. I always say, it's ridiculous to only get minimum wage for drivers, they should be getting MORE!! How on earth do they cover wear and tear on their vehicles, when they are not even making a living wage?? What happens when they need new tires? Or a transmission?
Actually drivers cut thier own rates. They continued to press the "accept fare" button while thier fellow driver kept accepting lower and lower fares. You control your minimum wage based on the skill the labor you are offering requires versus the rest of the labor market competing for the same job. You are 100% in control of thier. Stop blaming Uber for your problems.
@@acebaker3623 Uber drivers could earn enough to pay for the basic maintenance of thier vehicled by developing a skill that far exceds the skill level of the labor pool they are competing in and getting a higher paying job. Remeber Uber drivers don't even need the basic skill of show up to a place of employment on time 5 days a week as MOST people have to do at thier jobs. That one skill alone will most certainly net far grater payouts than the ever increaing competition for lower fares the on-demand delivery driver pool is scrapping over.
Why would you use Uber Eats for chinese food in the first place? They're one of the places that always do delivery.
I make $100 a week working full time. What's insulting about it is that Uber sends us notifications saying it's surging up when it's not or that "You could earn more 🤑". Or they'll ask us to signup for injury protection insurance when we can't even afford gas.
Are you allowed to set your rates? (This is a trick question because I know you can't and shouldn't be allowed to be considered independent contractors.
Wait what? You work 40 hours a week and only make 100???
Surge pricing is bullshit. It's just a random intermittent price increase. Half the time it doesn't make sense.
@@OgdenMI think he means after expenses
Go find a better Job. This should be a no-brainer
If not for the lazy, this is an absurd business model. People vote with their dollars, and they said, "I don't know how to cook and can't be bothered to get take out"
This garbage drove up prices in local restaurants. I still call direct and pick up, only to help the businesses
1:21 - You don't need to use these apps. You can pick up your food yourself.
This is doubly so considering that you are in New York, where you will pass any number of restaurants on your walk home from the subway.
And they worked with cellphone manufacturers to pre install their apps... Buying out website domains? That's so scummy
how about all the fake restaurants on these apps too...there will be a placed "chiccen king" shows off a bunch of good looking fried chiccen and its end up being applebees at a jacced up price😂😂
@@user-bf3pc2qd9s yea mann i absolutly haaaaaaaattteee that shit!!!
It sucks picking up from these places too because I'm looking for Major League Melts, not Denny's when I pull into the parking lot.
@@churchofmarcus 😂😂😂ahhh bro i could only imagine
Just because the minimum wage laws forcing an unrealistic hourly rate on service jobs didn't 100% contribute to the outrageous fees on these delivery services doesn't mean they don't contribute in a significant way. These laws are awful cost much more than they help.
People rarely never had delivery aside from pizza and Chinese 15 years ago. You don’t need this.
I work at well known Pizzeria in Chicago as a driver on the weekends as a side gig, and the drivers are all pissed that the restaurant uses DoorDash and the customers always request internal drivers. They don't need third party drivers, but the rule of thumb is, push third party to relief internal drivers and give them the higher tips orders that are closer and send the crappy ones to third partys.
A reminder that the ones who profit from this model are also responsible for the rise in cost of living because they see housing as primarily an investment.
Absolutely! ... they are the root source of just about every problem we have, especially in America ... Land of Milkin Money, and Land of the Hidden Fees 🟪
So glad I live in a walkable town. Calling up a restaurant and walking over to grab take-out is peak
Cycling to pick up take out pizza is fun
The infuriating part for me is the increased price for the food on the app vs. in the restaurant. If you go in, for example, the item will cost $9.99, but that same item ordered over the app is $12.99! Why. It's not increased because they have to pay the driver because we are already paying for that with the delivery fee added and the tips we leave. It shouldn't be to cover what the restaurant is being billed by the app because we are already paying to use the app! So now we have to pay for us to use the app and for the restaurant to use the app! Crazy. It's not even worth it anymore.
Uber made their first operating profit last year ($1.9b) after racking up $31.5bn of losses the prior 15yrs. Their net loss is still nearly $30b and their stock has done awful. Hardly a win.
No one should be exempt from minimum wage or benefits. Full disclosure on receipts should be mandatory.
There should be NO minimum wage in a free country. Everyone should have the right to negotiate thier pay by not taking jobs that pays them less than they want for the skills they bring to the table.
It’s not just delivery. I got in my car. Drove to Moes Mexican food. Parked. Walked into the restaurant and ordered my salad bowl. They asked me at checkout if I wanted to tip?
At least you know they wont mess with your food right in front of you vs if you didnt tip for an online or app order.
@@jer1776if you don’t tip your order will just not get picked up lol
@@qjtvaddict Im not just talking about deliveries
@@qjtvaddictthe cash register is asking for a tip! Like you go to the store yourself and they demand a tip. Craziness. Like it doesn't even go to the worker who made or served your food, its just extra money to the business
Big Tech is the quickest way to using foreign workers in a country like the U.S., as the WEF has claimed the United States is "behind" every other country's labor market as Americans are paid too much, whereas involving foreigners (asylum seekers/illegal immigrants) in the American tech industry are the key to higher corporate profits. This is why delivery is worse now; because it's not about convenience anymore. It's about lower-quality service for higher prices.
Don't use delivery apps. Most of those drivers are illegal immigrants and they speak little, to no English. Give your hard, earned money to a decent, law abiding U.S. citizen.
You know who you can vote for to get the deportations going. That would be the best development for wages of the working class.
Reading this 2 post comment thread was the most mind numbing 30 seconds ever.
I work at Pizza store, the prices are all higher on doordash and ubereats, the customer might get a waived delivery fee but they still ALWAYS end up paying more.
So the premise of this video is that the good guys have a business model for doing delivery that works but these evil rich folks running Uber are getting all the business despite charging more than them? Just think about it for 1 second: if you were running a small pizzeria and you could make more money by doing delivery yourself, why would you still outsource to Uber? Obviously it's because Uber provides a value to you. This video completely ignores the value Uber brings to the table and just focuses on them wanting to make a profit, which literally every business aims for. The reason it's more expensive now is blindingly obvious: they're not profitable unless they charge more and they need to recoup the money they spent trying to become profitable.
I'll admit, there's a ton of restaurants around my area that I, as someone who cannot drive, would never have known about or eaten from if not for doordash.