Battle of the de-harshers - ReaFIR vs Smooth Operator

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  • Опубликовано: 8 ноя 2024

Комментарии • 47

  • @discopas2826
    @discopas2826 2 года назад +11

    Thanx for the Video, Jon. I donot know, how flexible Smooth Operator is, but with reafir you can adjust the frequency curve so individually (you didn't show this), that nearly every result can be processed. For excample, you can match the analyzers curve to the process curve and from that, adjust with pencil-like tool to every curve you want. Seems complicate, but you can realise nearly every result you want. I really love reafir for this possibilities.

  • @andreasfranzmann9634
    @andreasfranzmann9634 2 года назад +9

    Great! I need to tame my acoustics quite often and ReaFir now is a new discovery in this regard. And again free with Reaper.
    Thank you Jon, made my day!

  •  2 года назад +5

    Thanks. I also learnt about delta solo, which many times I wanted to check but didn't know how to.

  • @DThompson55
    @DThompson55 2 года назад +7

    This is exactly the problem I had to solve this week, an aggressive guitar that was just becoming a little fatiguing over time. I'm trying the reafir route.

  • @KrulliKlikk
    @KrulliKlikk 2 года назад +12

    "Today we're gonna talk about reefer"

  • @halyalkarfamily4079
    @halyalkarfamily4079 2 месяца назад +1

    Great tutorial man! Thanks a lot! It's a revelation!!

  • @le_roi_nu
    @le_roi_nu 2 года назад +2

    Haha ! Happy to see this comparison ! Thanks !

  • @marslightsnoise
    @marslightsnoise Год назад +2

    I think I prefer the sound of ReaFIR! Good technique.

  • @buriedstpatrick2294
    @buriedstpatrick2294 2 года назад

    Been using Soothe, very similar. Paid as well, so it's nice that you can kind of get the same effect using a built-in plugin.

  • @mikesperling9878
    @mikesperling9878 2 года назад +1

    Amazing video! You are absolutely right about investing in such products. And... It's not like smooth operator costs a ton of money. Not even a 100 bucks, so... 🤑😅

  • @perigee_vitz-wong
    @perigee_vitz-wong 2 года назад +2

    Ok wow I literally needed this today. I'm trying to remove the closet resonance from a vocal stem. Is using ReaFIR advisable to clean up the room tone in vocals? Or are there other cockos tools you'd recommend beyond EQ+multiband?

    • @TheREAPERBlog
      @TheREAPERBlog  2 года назад +2

      ReaFIR in subtract mode is fairly good for reducing constant background noise. In compress mode I think it may help with the low resonances from a closet if used very carefully, but I would rely more on ReaEQ with narrow cuts.

    • @discopas2826
      @discopas2826 2 года назад +4

      If you start with substract mode to match the analyzers curve to process curve, then switch to compress mode and use fine curve edit with mouse to adjust details, then experiment with compress ration and/or ... so to say... curve level adjust I think you can fix nearly every problem.

  • @Linguae_Music
    @Linguae_Music Год назад +1

    Ive never used ReaFir before because i hadnt used a lot of the cockos/JS plugins just because of the sheer overwhelming amount of them and also i dont know wjat any of them really do unless the name is obvious xp
    But i was messing with ReaFir and it was exactly what i needed for these drums
    Im not sure what its doing exacty, but its very good!, whatever it is xD

  • @esahm373
    @esahm373 2 года назад +2

    I think you need higher FFT size in ReaFir to get higher fidelity!

  • @antoniocasas8176
    @antoniocasas8176 Год назад

    Tdr nova could do the same job if only its compresion attack was 0, but you can always hear a transient of the frequency you want to eliminate, after the dynamic eq

  • @mr.e8432
    @mr.e8432 2 года назад +1

    I used to use Oeksounds Soothe 2. It did a great job. But I can't seem to get the vst version to run smoothly on my system with Reaper.

    • @KernSound
      @KernSound 2 года назад

      Mine seems to work great on my system. Are you using VST3?

  • @drrodopszin
    @drrodopszin 2 года назад

    Do you have explanation on the other modes of ReaFir? Like Convolve for instance.

  • @LucasMeneguette
    @LucasMeneguette 2 года назад +3

    Maybe a bigger FFT size would render better results

    • @TheREAPERBlog
      @TheREAPERBlog  2 года назад +2

      I tried most of the settings to see. in delta solo the larger fft sounded more tonal and smeared, and smaller was more squishy.

    • @80icio
      @80icio 2 года назад

      FFT has a trade off . Larger FFT buffer size is better for freq accuracy, but worse for time accuracy, vice versa with lower FFT buffer sizes.

  • @ronaldirawan3643
    @ronaldirawan3643 Год назад

    Thanks the info

  • @GTSongwriter
    @GTSongwriter Год назад

    Wow! That saves me a lot of money!

  • @getstew
    @getstew 2 года назад +1

    Would both/either of these help with spoken word and sibilance?

    • @InXLsisDeo
      @InXLsisDeo 2 года назад

      Try Toneboosters Sibalance v3 which has gone free recently.

  • @ShirshaakRajKunwaar
    @ShirshaakRajKunwaar 2 года назад +1

    Thanks !

  • @Hamitache
    @Hamitache 2 года назад

    im using s operator it is cool.. i think they try to make it as Soothe's features .. i dont know

  • @maxcloud9127
    @maxcloud9127 Год назад

    omg i never knew that reaper has delata button on every plugin

  • @francismcfadden3305
    @francismcfadden3305 2 года назад

    Lmao. I didn't know ReaFir could do that. Makes me wish even more now I didn't buy soothe 2 (dseq is better imo) I just hate how soothe doesn't get precise enough with it's curves and I feel I wrestle with it all the time to get it to not affect certain frequency ranges that I don't want it to affect. I'll have to try this out. I imagine bigger FFT sizes have better results

    • @ramspencer5492
      @ramspencer5492 2 года назад

      Why? RealFir really is not doing it nearly as accurately or as surgically as soothe... Not a viable replacement at all.. Now smooth operator might have been a worthwhile alternative.

    • @francismcfadden3305
      @francismcfadden3305 2 года назад +3

      @@ramspencer5492 I disagree after using it like this. Soothe affects frequencies that I tell it not too and it gets on my nerves it's AI decides for me "intelligently" as opposed to reafir which you can dial in super specific and it will grab what I want it to grab and only that. Soothe was made for the lazy mixer quite frankly. It's not specific enough. I still use the sidechain feature sometimes though. At some point I'm gonna invest in DSeq3 though. That shit is much better for this stuff.

  • @GTSongwriter
    @GTSongwriter Год назад

    You only get two points?

  • @craigburton4447
    @craigburton4447 2 месяца назад

    Just not sure about these plugins, they seem like character removers to me

  • @XRaym
    @XRaym 2 года назад +6

    TBProAudio DSEQ 3 is the winner here. 😁

    • @tonal.states
      @tonal.states 2 года назад +4

      Isn't it TBProAudio?

    • @XRaym
      @XRaym 2 года назад

      @@tonal.states oops, of course, corrected

    • @tonal.states
      @tonal.states 2 года назад +1

      @@XRaym Yep! hehe I love that plugin.

    • @francismcfadden3305
      @francismcfadden3305 2 года назад +3

      Yeah I wish I bought it instead of soothe 2 lol. Cheaper and better

    • @caravelasfarmer7595
      @caravelasfarmer7595 Год назад

      Mdynamics by Melda works well too.

  • @braunhausmedia
    @braunhausmedia 2 года назад

    Couldn't you just use a deesser to get the same basic effect?

    • @Googahgee
      @Googahgee 2 года назад +2

      Most de-essers are multiband compressors with a small HF, dynamic EQs set to a specific frequency, or full-band compressors with the sidechain only listening to a small HF band of the signal. Like Jon said, you can get similar results with a dynamic EQ like TDR nova but it doesn’t have the pitch tracking which would help you tame those moving resonances and is also limited in the amount of bands you can use.

    • @Hamitache
      @Hamitache 2 года назад

      @@Googahgee hey.. what do u mean with pitch tracking??