I forgot Zach was the progenitor of the Tomar Emerald Lore, he is truly the spinal fluid of the backbone of the modern era OneyPlays of the planet Earth no less!
@@pucktoad Fun facts: Sonic needed to compete with the classic character so they took a very combative approach. It polarized the two fanbases really. Ironically Sonic games incorporated the rumble feature in later titles, the feature that was pioneered by Worm Oddysey.
He also actually does all of the voice acting in Titanfall, Titanfall 2, Titanfall: divorce court, and worm odyssey it’s kinda wacky and a little crazy
For some reason it's really funny that Chris explains the premise to Flight of the Navigator in a very straightforward way and Zach just can't comprehend it
@@girres43they added it in both Sonic 2 & CD (they were both in development during the same time) Sonic 2’s spindash would be used from then-forward. CD’s is awful
"Attention white men of America, if you are feeling under power, instead of committing some sort of act, I recommend you become invincible in Sonic the Hedgehog for the Genesis." - Zachary Hadel, 2019
15:44-16:19 is weird. Tomar said that he never played Sonic Heroes because he didn't have a Genesis growing up. Then Zach corrects him and says Sonic Heroes was on the GameCube. Chris then thinks that Tomar was talking about the Playstation 2 and corrects Zach by saying it was also on the PS2, when Tomar was actually mistaking it for a Genesis game. Like wtf happened?
In music, especially in a wind ensemble, a warm tone usually means that your tone is rich and resonant. If your tone is bright it's because it sounds a little out of tune and you have to pull that stinky slimy toad out of your baritone's bell.
I was browsing a garage sale in the summer of 2012 in Burbank when I came across an almost new laptop, only being sold for $15. I was hesitant at first but the owner assured me that the computer worked and even turned it on and ran a virus check. I took the laptop home and decided to open up the back and see if all the parts were fully intact. Inside of the laptop was a glowing, green gem. I could feel a strange warmth radiating off of it and I didn’t want to touch it but I couldn’t stop myself from gripping it with both hands and moaning loudly. I orgasmed instantly. Suddenly, the gem stopped glowing and the surface felt cold. I shook off the strange experience I had just had and decided to reassemble the laptop and boot it up. The laptop was running differently than it had at the garage sale. It was laggy and the noises were at double the normal volume. There was only one program too, a weird internet browser called Google Chromar. I booted it up out of curiosity and heard a blood curdling scream, but it didn’t come out of the speakers, it was surrounding me. It wouldn’t stop. I closed the browser and started to cry as the scream pierced my ear drums, it just wouldn’t go away. Suddenly, the laptop blue screened and the screaming stopped. I heard a blunt thud. The screen flashed back to normal and Google Chromar was gone. There were just the normal programs. I decided to open MS Paint to calm myself down and draw a worm. But when I chose my brush, my mouse stopped working. The computer was controlling the mouse. It began to draw a hyper realistic bald bearded man, I recognized him as Tomar from OneyPlays. He was holding the severed head of Jaxxy by his long, green finger like a fish hook. His other hand was holding a red gem, similar to the one I found in the laptop. His voice screamed through the speakers, “YOU HAVE FOUND A TOMAR EMERALD, THIS WAS NOT YOURS TO FIND.” The image of Tomar began to move, he chuckled then threw his wives head at the screen and cracked it. He picked it back up and repeated the process until the head finally flew through the screen and landed in my lap. Jaxxy’s head looked up at me and let out the scream I had heard earlier. Tomar followed the head through the screen. He was clutching a cement block. He began to yell at me and I begged him to leave me alone but he wouldn’t stop yelling racial slurs and his eyes began to bleed. He slammed the brick against my head and I blacked out. When I woke back up, there was no blood and no gem. Only the laptop that would no longer turn on. I threw the laptop in the dumpster and never saw it again. Sometimes I can still hear the screams and when I dream I can still see Tomar holding his wives head.
I managed to find a single Tomar emerald. It has allowed me to turn my most hated enemies into small little goblin creatures that are enslaved to my will. I can only dream of the kind of power possessing all 8 emeralds would grant me.
@@numbersbubble if you have the Emerald, Tomar will turn into a shadow beast like the Dehaka from Prince of Persia: Warrior Within and chase you to the ends of the earth
My dad bought me the book Zach is talking about near the beginning where that old guy hid a bunch of treasure. I spent hours trying to search for codes and cyphers in it, but unfortunately I was as old as an 11 year old, and as smart as one too.
ACTUALLY I loved the Tails/Eggman levels as a kid But I get why a lot of people didn't. Still, 10 year old me thought it was fun as fuck to steamroll through bases blowing up a hundred robots. And it was cool to finally get to play as Eggman, even if he made that annoying "YUH" sound every time you jump.
I genuinely like Tails as a character throughout the series. While i'd rather play Tails as, well, Tails I still think the shooter levels were waaay better than late game treasure hunting levels. Anyone that says they like Aquatic mine, security hall and Mad Space are psychopaths.
I just saw a video yesterday of some guy breaking into someones house looking for it, he flew to arizona from pennsylvania having like less than 200 dollars to his name
Zack is right about the 4% bigger eye. Humans are hardwired to notice these small details because it appears "inhuman" almost like uncanny valley. It's like with a lot of women having a slightly bigger boob on the left side because of the heart pumping blood in close vicinity but thats not readily apparent, as they are hidden most of the time. Eyes on the other hand are almost always directly in sight.
Tomar's naked body illuminated by the moonlight is what I see when I close my eyes and then I wake up in a cold sweat 60 years later but i'm the same age. it's pretty fuckin weird dude.
I always find the discussion about music descriptors really interesting. I think I tend to think of things very abstractly so those words just make sense to me somehow. Warm, cold, open, wide, etc. make sense to me because the music invokes those feelings in my mind when I hear it. I'm not sure if that makes sense but I think it really comes down to how you categorize information mentally.
I will always love Sonic, even if someone tries to be like "oh that's not a good game series." I can like something even if it doesn't have 100% good games every time.
My Uncle Fungini lost his libido while acquiring the fourth Tomar Emerald, he had to draw an alchemy circle of Tomar and sacrifice something of himself in order to gain it from the Gate of Tomomomar. Well atleast my uncle won't want to have his 'fungini time' with me anymore so I'm thankful for this Tomar emerald, it sacrificed one live in order to save another :D
I was giving my mom a rectal thermometer and I felt something that stopped the thermometer, when I took it out, a green glow appeared, I shoved my hand in there and took the emerald. Was that the best place you can hide, Tomar?
dude you guys are healers in my perspective omg. frigging thank you perfect drop. lets get these tomar emeralds thank you a lot i mean it from the bottom of my frisky online depths
I fucken love how in this playthrough, they talk about the term earthy tones, and Tomar unironically said "Toothy" about the sound during the Metroid Zero Mission playthrough and Chris completely went balls to the wall with the jokes about it. If oneyplays is anything, it is definitely consistent lmao
Zach: "Hey should we record some new content or spend all day poking Tomar's cherry red asshole?" OneyPlays: "Oney Plays Sonic the Hedgehog (Complete Series)"
Played Sonic along with this just to see how far I could get before the video ended. Got to labyrinth zone around 26:40 then got a game over and gave up because fuck this game.
Coming from someone who can manage to beat the game at around the same amount of time as this video without getting a game over, I can agree that labyrinth zone can kiss my ass
Is it odd that I'm upset Tomar didn't get a chance to elaborate on his childhood crush for Gadget? I don't know, I just always find cartoon crush talk to be an interesting topic.
Every time I hear Zach starting to complain about "earthy tones" I always think he's going to go into his spiel about those guys who are really pale except for... you know, never mind.
I forgot Zach was the progenitor of the Tomar Emerald Lore, he is truly the spinal fluid of the backbone of the modern era OneyPlays of the planet Earth no less!
zach is my favorite co host. hes by far the funniest
@@lowkiii7230 Tomar's a pretty funny mitigator
Something else I noticed is that Tomar was pretty quiet before Zach brought that up and it gave him a lead-in to the bit, really nice move by Zach
@@zachopath tomars really funny too i just think zack is funnier
I feel like Zach should be a producer of oneyplays. He shouldn't be on every episode but he should control the narrative
"Dont... eat...things .. off... the ground"
Words that sparked a Legend.
It goes against the whole point of Worm Oddessy
@@pucktoad Fun facts: Sonic needed to compete with the classic character so they took a very combative approach. It polarized the two fanbases really. Ironically Sonic games incorporated the rumble feature in later titles, the feature that was pioneered by Worm Oddysey.
420 likes guys let’s keep it that way. Don’t wanna disturb the balance, the Tomar Emeralds could do something horrific...
It's "don'ts, eats"
no “does he open his mouth?” did
That's so cool that zach can do 3 voices at the same time
Like they say, "The Beatles" is actually just Ringo moving really fast.
He also actually does all of the voice acting in Titanfall, Titanfall 2, Titanfall: divorce court, and worm odyssey it’s kinda wacky and a little crazy
@@Raven-if9ie I thought he was green and retired from after the titanfall days?
For some reason it's really funny that Chris explains the premise to Flight of the Navigator in a very straightforward way and Zach just can't comprehend it
That's a real movie?!
your name is jojo but your avatar is guts. errmm kind of odd *scratches one big dandruff off of head*
What part is straight forward
Tomar Emeralds and Chewing Character. Legendary series.
Tomars most feared opponent, even with the power of his emeralds, is Chewing Character
69th like time to farm Reddit karma, thanks for the post kind stranger. The narwhal Bacon's at midnight.
@@joolian4763 nice
@@joolian4763 right gamers? High five.
Many forget about his eighth and most powerful Mastomar Emerald
2:50 the fact that chris tried doing a spindash in sonic 1 is probably the most saddest/relatable thing ive ever seen
wait can you not spindash in sonic 1?
@@girres43Wasn't a thing until Sonic 2, yeah
@@girres43you didn’t know this ???? They added it as a bonus in later versions but vanilla sonic 1 has no spin dash
@@ozmond i've never played a sonic game before 🎛🧷
@@girres43they added it in both Sonic 2 & CD (they were both in development during the same time)
Sonic 2’s spindash would be used from then-forward. CD’s is awful
"Attention white men of America, if you are feeling under power, instead of committing some sort of act, I recommend you become invincible in Sonic the Hedgehog for the Genesis."
- Zachary Hadel, 2019
Everyone else in America? Keep doing what you are doing. :^)
Words to live by😔✊
Zach ended white supremacy.
everything that's gone wrong this year is because my father found all 8 tomar emeralds last November but he didn't tell anyone
Thaaaaats why I failed no nut november, *I shrug very violently*
*MY FATHEER*
was an alcoholic
and he
eliminated his
15:44-16:19 is weird. Tomar said that he never played Sonic Heroes because he didn't have a Genesis growing up. Then Zach corrects him and says Sonic Heroes was on the GameCube. Chris then thinks that Tomar was talking about the Playstation 2 and corrects Zach by saying it was also on the PS2, when Tomar was actually mistaking it for a Genesis game.
Like wtf happened?
Ah yes, the iconic video game catch phrases
-"Get over here!"
-"Let's a go!"
-"Don't...eat...things off the ground!"
“wait, does he open his mouth?”
Don't forget spider-man's iconic catchphrase: "nooo problem!!"
i loved watching chris try to spindash but silently realising he can't
The Sonic 1 experience
39:15 having a fairly interesting and intelligent discussion, then zach starts laughing at the bouncing character
Disgusting
@@crackedemerald4930 i notice your username, would you happen to be one of the many tomar emeralds hidden in burbank, california?
When Kanye said “ no one man should have all that power.” He was actually referring to the Tomar Emeralds locates in Burbank California
In music, especially in a wind ensemble, a warm tone usually means that your tone is rich and resonant. If your tone is bright it's because it sounds a little out of tune and you have to pull that stinky slimy toad out of your baritone's bell.
I always thought warm was a low base hum because that is the sound a vacuum tube imparts when it is literally warmed up
@@Abdega ahh ya know
I can't believe they finished the whole game in 43 minutes!
this is actually two whole playthroughs, they did it twice because tomar was throwing a fit.
@@namelessmcentity2435 Tomar was cranky
frankie mike wait what?
2:13 the birth of the legend
RESTINPEACE nice shitty timestamping
I was browsing a garage sale in the summer of 2012 in Burbank when I came across an almost new laptop, only being sold for $15. I was hesitant at first but the owner assured me that the computer worked and even turned it on and ran a virus check. I took the laptop home and decided to open up the back and see if all the parts were fully intact. Inside of the laptop was a glowing, green gem. I could feel a strange warmth radiating off of it and I didn’t want to touch it but I couldn’t stop myself from gripping it with both hands and moaning loudly. I orgasmed instantly. Suddenly, the gem stopped glowing and the surface felt cold. I shook off the strange experience I had just had and decided to reassemble the laptop and boot it up. The laptop was running differently than it had at the garage sale. It was laggy and the noises were at double the normal volume. There was only one program too, a weird internet browser called Google Chromar. I booted it up out of curiosity and heard a blood curdling scream, but it didn’t come out of the speakers, it was surrounding me. It wouldn’t stop. I closed the browser and started to cry as the scream pierced my ear drums, it just wouldn’t go away. Suddenly, the laptop blue screened and the screaming stopped. I heard a blunt thud. The screen flashed back to normal and Google Chromar was gone. There were just the normal programs. I decided to open MS Paint to calm myself down and draw a worm. But when I chose my brush, my mouse stopped working. The computer was controlling the mouse. It began to draw a hyper realistic bald bearded man, I recognized him as Tomar from OneyPlays. He was holding the severed head of Jaxxy by his long, green finger like a fish hook. His other hand was holding a red gem, similar to the one I found in the laptop. His voice screamed through the speakers, “YOU HAVE FOUND A TOMAR EMERALD, THIS WAS NOT YOURS TO FIND.” The image of Tomar began to move, he chuckled then threw his wives head at the screen and cracked it. He picked it back up and repeated the process until the head finally flew through the screen and landed in my lap. Jaxxy’s head looked up at me and let out the scream I had heard earlier. Tomar followed the head through the screen. He was clutching a cement block. He began to yell at me and I begged him to leave me alone but he wouldn’t stop yelling racial slurs and his eyes began to bleed. He slammed the brick against my head and I blacked out. When I woke back up, there was no blood and no gem. Only the laptop that would no longer turn on. I threw the laptop in the dumpster and never saw it again. Sometimes I can still hear the screams and when I dream I can still see Tomar holding his wives head.
Best comment I’ve seen on RUclips
AINT READIN ALLAT
It made me so happy to hear that I'm not the only person in the animation industry that hates Toonboom software.
I managed to find a single Tomar emerald. It has allowed me to turn my most hated enemies into small little goblin creatures that are enslaved to my will. I can only dream of the kind of power possessing all 8 emeralds would grant me.
You better be careful, having an T-emerald in your possession brings the vengeful wrath of the godlike being known has Tomar to hunt you down.
@@numbersbubble if you have the Emerald, Tomar will turn into a shadow beast like the Dehaka from Prince of Persia: Warrior Within and chase you to the ends of the earth
Are these goblin creatures fantasy goblins or Incase goblins?
humans are incapable of obtaining all 8 emeralds, tomar will hunt them down before it is done
My dad bought me the book Zach is talking about near the beginning where that old guy hid a bunch of treasure. I spent hours trying to search for codes and cyphers in it, but unfortunately I was as old as an 11 year old, and as smart as one too.
Too bad you weren’t like the kid in knowing and just started going ‘1-2-3-4-5-6-7-8-9-10-9-11-pearl harbor’
25:53 true harmony
"If i every make a tv show, it will be in flash" -Zach. Well that aged well
He did it.
My 5th grade teacher read “flight of the navigator” to our class so when Chris talked about it, it gave me flashbacks
35:07 Chris does the laugh so well and so badly at the same time I love it.
ACTUALLY I loved the Tails/Eggman levels as a kid
But I get why a lot of people didn't. Still, 10 year old me thought it was fun as fuck to steamroll through bases blowing up a hundred robots. And it was cool to finally get to play as Eggman, even if he made that annoying "YUH" sound every time you jump.
I liked his “Yoooooosh…” as he pet a chao
I genuinely like Tails as a character throughout the series. While i'd rather play Tails as, well, Tails I still think the shooter levels were waaay better than late game treasure hunting levels. Anyone that says they like Aquatic mine, security hall and Mad Space are psychopaths.
I'm getting the Mandela effect I swear that they already uploaded a complete of this series
I think it was a Best of compilation of all the sonic series, including the ones Chris played with Ding dang and Jooleaan
25:54 "harmony" in harmony lol
"Dont eat things off the ground"
ah yes, the classic Sonic Quote, I didnt know until now
Zach speaks such wise wisdom of a weird wizened wizard.
Can't forget *"Wait what does he open his mouth?"*
@@JP-hk6xw Chris was wrong, he does open his mouth. You just gotta be quick or you'll miss your shot.
The Tomar Emeralds
The Saga begins
The Tomar Emeralds
The Tomar Emeralds
Nice username
I found a false Tomar Emerald and now Tomar haunts me at night.
That's not the real tomar or else he would have already beaten you to a blood pulp
i always thought the forrest fenn treasure was a bit zach made up but it's actually real.
I just saw a video yesterday of some guy breaking into someones house looking for it, he flew to arizona from pennsylvania having like less than 200 dollars to his name
@Genowave Who are you, Niall?
Buggle Magnum
Do you have a link to that video. I’d like to behold it.
they fucking found it
24:25
"You know what, if I do make a TV show, it'll be in Flash anyway. Fuck you people." -Zach
And thus Smiling Friends was born.
My great Grandfather tried looking for the Tomar emeralds but he never came back
This is one of the most entertaining series they've done. They had a lot of interesting conversations
years later Smiling Friends was made with Adobe Animate which is essentially flash. Zach staying true to his convictions lol
Zack is right about the 4% bigger eye. Humans are hardwired to notice these small details because it appears "inhuman" almost like uncanny valley. It's like with a lot of women having a slightly bigger boob on the left side because of the heart pumping blood in close vicinity but thats not readily apparent, as they are hidden most of the time. Eyes on the other hand are almost always directly in sight.
The series that gave birth to the iconic Tomar Emeralds 💎
i have watched this series so many times, thanks to this upload the amount of times is going up
I like how a good chunk of this playthrough, is just marble zone lmao.
29:58 I've seen this like 10 times and I still almost spit up my soda, it caught me off guard.
Way of the future way of the future way of the future
"This music reminds me of Trump's America"
Idk why but I couldn't agree more
No more like the song that plays on the creepy easter egg screen in Sonic CD.
@@destroyernoah That music is just the entire history of America as a whole
I'll save everyone the trouble and give you an adlib to fill in!
"____________ bad, ____________ good!
Zach's gaslighting gives me the best kind of aneurysm.
Thank you Zach! I’ve been looking for a *chewing character* for years now! Now I can finally be accepted into my family...
Tomar's naked body illuminated by the moonlight is what I see when I close my eyes and then I wake up in a cold sweat 60 years later but i'm the same age. it's pretty fuckin weird dude.
I can't actually believe that the story of Forrest Fenn isn't just something Zach made up on the spot.
The Tomar Emeralds are the things keeping this channel alive and giving it POWER.
I always find the discussion about music descriptors really interesting. I think I tend to think of things very abstractly so those words just make sense to me somehow. Warm, cold, open, wide, etc. make sense to me because the music invokes those feelings in my mind when I hear it. I'm not sure if that makes sense but I think it really comes down to how you categorize information mentally.
Every time I think about the chaos emeralds, I just want to eat them like hard candy. Jolly ranchers if you will!
Long ago the official Sonic the Hedgehog shared how to make candy Chaos Emeralds.
The main thing I liked about tails and eggman's levels in sonic adventure 2 was the music during the pyramid level. I really liked that song.
This is essentially the oneyplays podcast for how little they talk about the game
Ahh yes, Sonic’s immortal catchphrase: “w-wait, does he open his mouth?”
I will always love Sonic, even if someone tries to be like "oh that's not a good game series." I can like something even if it doesn't have 100% good games every time.
My Uncle Fungini lost his libido while acquiring the fourth Tomar Emerald, he had to draw an alchemy circle of Tomar and sacrifice something of himself in order to gain it from the Gate of Tomomomar. Well atleast my uncle won't want to have his 'fungini time' with me anymore so I'm thankful for this Tomar emerald, it sacrificed one live in order to save another :D
I read Libido and everything after that was lost in a Yakuza 0 daydream
Such a short yet iconic series
I want more Oney plays VR Chat, this time with Zach and Tomar
I was giving my mom a rectal thermometer and I felt something that stopped the thermometer, when I took it out, a green glow appeared, I shoved my hand in there and took the emerald. Was that the best place you can hide, Tomar?
He didn’t hide it,
It was payment to your mom ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
dude you guys are healers in my perspective omg. frigging thank you perfect drop.
lets get these tomar emeralds
thank you a lot i mean it from the bottom of my frisky online depths
oh its liek not new or something ex dee i never saw it so its new to moi
this ones like a philosophy masterclass about language its super intellectual im could you say stimulated
19:15
Tomar: What's up?
*CHEWING FACE!*
Zach: AH!
Tomar: AUH!
This is long even though it is only 2 episodes. I love it
I'm pretty sure that forest fen guy Zach is talking about gave a speech at my elementary school, not even kidding. He was nuts.
8:50 is when I really hate that my name is Amy im MEGA uncomfortable omg
R.I.P
5:21 - something about Chris staying in character after Zach gets his attention was really funny to me
4:20 that treasure was found and had a bunch of gems and gold.
Dont... eat...things .. off... the ground
That moved me...
I fucken love how in this playthrough, they talk about the term earthy tones, and Tomar unironically said "Toothy" about the sound during the Metroid Zero Mission playthrough and Chris completely went balls to the wall with the jokes about it.
If oneyplays is anything, it is definitely consistent lmao
Zach: "Hey should we record some new content or spend all day poking Tomar's cherry red asshole?"
OneyPlays: "Oney Plays Sonic the Hedgehog (Complete Series)"
I heard only the queen of england owns one of the Tomar Emeralds, someone should steal it
I’ll steal it! No one will ever know!
its why she's still alive, she'll never die unless she relinquishes the tomar emerald
The IRA will steal it for ireland
Paula Deen and Betty White also have one each, I think
@@tacothedank I think Betty whites was stolen unfortunately
To find the tomar emeralds you needmore than a sonar, you need a somar
3:16 Honestly the background music is fitting for the story being told
The Origin of the Tomar Emeralds.
Apparently someone found Fenn's treasure within the past two days or so.
An absolute classic.
18:57 , made me sad, Chris talking to Zach that way :(
"That's the free market baby... everyone living in a commune" I love Zach
2:11 the beginning of a legend
Strange how Tomi references GunBuster and one of the main characters is Onee-San.
So this is where the Tomar Emeralds first originated
Ah yes, the originator for the Tomato Emeralds
the origin of tomar emerald lore
Played Sonic along with this just to see how far I could get before the video ended. Got to labyrinth zone around 26:40 then got a game over and gave up because fuck this game.
Coming from someone who can manage to beat the game at around the same amount of time as this video without getting a game over, I can agree that labyrinth zone can kiss my ass
“Don’t eat... things off the ground”
-Sonic The Hedgehog
I totally forget this series ended in a jump cut of Chris calling Tomar a filthy 'K-Word'
Ohhhhh it's Sonic the *FOAKIN' HEDGEHOG!* HE'S AN ICONIC GAMIN' LEGEND _D'AUGGHH_ (dies)
Is it odd that I'm upset Tomar didn't get a chance to elaborate on his childhood crush for Gadget? I don't know, I just always find cartoon crush talk to be an interesting topic.
@Jotaro97 uh, okay then?
13:25 *R O G E R E B E R T*
Ah, a sonic series untainted by Cory's artistic/acoustic screaming. Those were the days.
You're not worthy of listening to any episode. Fool.
Me and my little brother rented flight of the navigator from Hollywood video like 3 or 4 times when we were kids.
I used to like Tomar, then he started sending me pictures of a gun with the words :SOON..
"If I ever make a cartoon it will be in Flash, fuck you people" - Zach Hadel, Smiling Friends co-creator.
32:36 - hey sonic
Oh that was weird. I read this comment the same time the audio played lol
Chris: "You need to stop bein mean to Tomar"
20 years later
Chris: Continues to bully Tomar non stop into submission and depression
dude love flight of the navigator
Tomar has never experienced antisemitism because his presence cures it.
hearing chris talking about tenacious d after seeing that music video give me a big disgusting worm filled rotting grin
Every time I hear Zach starting to complain about "earthy tones" I always think he's going to go into his spiel about those guys who are really pale except for... you know, never mind.
I like zach because he has nice goblin tones
This video has earthy tones
Chewing character for smash ultimate
I cant believe another human being knows what flight of the navigator is
its really coolthat chris liked the d and then did a music video and stuff for them!! its so sick :)