Ah yes he gets tricked into sleeping with someone he thought was starfire and then it's somehow his fault and gets blamed by everyone including star. Bloody brilliant.
A lot of victims have and are still blamed for their own being assaulted so its really not a stretch to believe. Plus that was in 1992 where everyone was way more stupid about such things
It hurt me reading it. He knew his body was shutting down and what was gonna happen next. Literally what most victims go through and it so sad how it’s brushed over.
Doesn't he just say don't touch me because he thinks he's poisonous because that's what he says "don't touch me... I'm poisonous" so is he just trying to protect her from being poisoned or am i retarded?
It's seen a lot in writing, it's like the writers like their characters going through worse and worse scenarios the nicer they are, like spider man. All to show they can bounce back. But it's still F&#%$d up to showcase regardless.
its because it brings more attention to it... if a mean character got raped you would probably feel less sympathy but if a nice one did then you would care a lot more
@Hello (: it's still kinda strange that Nightwing got raped literally 3 times. Twice in the comics and once in animation. Like, they could've at least used someone else.
i wish they dived deeper into the long lasting trauma of sexual assault instead of treating it like getting beat up by another villain. i think the only superhero that explored it was Jessica Jones and kinda Green Arrow
@@midnightxtaleit's not like every marvel comic is a kid story There are some veru good comic books from marvel as well ( Old man Logan , Immortal Hulk , The Amazing spiderman, The Spectacular Spiderman, Deadpool kills the Marvel universe , X men comics ) all of them are very good
A bunch of well-written, well-handled Peter Parkers. I would kill for a good writer like Tom Taylor to write Spider Man. Instead we get Zeb Wells or Dan Slott.
@@miracon000fez no but he got cucked in the recent comic and in the past but it got retconned after But Mary Jane has children with some other guy for an event that should have never been written in the first place
@@miracon000fez Yeah but he did kinda lose everything one could possobly lose in their life, multiple times. Literally even lost his body for quite a while at some point. Rape is on the very short list of things that didn't happen to him YET
Male sexual assault is severally overlooked. A lot of people think guys can't be sexually assaulted by women just because they are males. I've heard comments like, "He probably wanted it anyway." Do you know how messed up that is? Guys have a right to their bodies, too. They have the right to say no. Not to mention male on male sexual assault which is also wrong.
@@nathanchishi7245 Rare my ass, Men just dont easily discuss these things because people like you go and say shit like that, or say they wanted it ect.... So it usually get bottled up and never talked causing different issues.
I was aware of Tarantula assaulting him, but I didn’t know this had happened before with Mirage. That’s fucked up. And they never really address it after Dick had a full on breakdown after Tarantula.🤬
Worse part was that the titans blamed Dick and Mirage never got any punishment. Dc sometimes uses titan as punching bags and fodder for crisis events. But somehow Mirage is always spared from all that.
@@huntertezz yikes, yeah they really haven’t handled that well at all. Mirage hasn’t show up often enough for me to remember she exists to be honest. But I don’t read the Nightwing comics, so I could be wrong
Poor Nightwing, after everything he’s been through he deserves better. He’s one of my all time favorite characters in DC Comics. And DC really put a big spotlight on the truth of assault on men, showed everyone that we are all equal. DC is such a beautiful verse, my favorite verse actually. They just need to bring Nightwing back into the comics once more, and give him a lot of buffs, he’s been very underrated for a long time even though he’s one of the toughest combatants in the bat family.
Nightwing, the male character who gets the heroine treatment. Over sexualized covers, characters degrading him to be a sex object, "buttwing", and SA top it off with writer fetish. Male SA is so highly under reported, especially done by the opposite gender. Bat family in particular is very much used. Thalia with Bruce and Jason, Dick too many to count, Tim with Thalia half sister. Comes out as a "joke". Like lol men getting SA lol The toxic male culture of bottling up your feelings, plus heteronormative narrative many men irl dont come forward. Being told "noice" if its a female predator. South Park covered this with Ike and his teacher, no one took it seriously. Just thinking this preschooler had game to be with a teacher, not the female teacher was a creep. I, plus male friends of mine who've been assaulted. Have been slut shamed, called dogs/players, nothing done. I had a former boss assault me on a business trip, she made everyone think i was unhindged and crazy. And making me seem like the villain for "accusing" her. So when i came out, no one believed me until months later. When i left and it happened to 3 other men.
great comment. this character really does get the heroine treatment and i’m not sure why. the south park episode is a great reference because although it may be satire that is EXACTLY what people say when men are sa’d. i’m glad these important conversations are starting to happen!
Yeah, Talia really a serial rap*st. Like people say her drugging bats was OOC but she legit did it with Jason knowing he was outta his mind from the pit and not able to consent AND a minor. Like😬 That's a pattern.
Hey man, I'm so sorry that shit happened to you. Thank you so much for talking about it here, it really needed to be said. Have a hug from one survivor to another 🫂✨️
I was sexually assaulted twice by my mother's friend and I didn't tell my mother until year's later and she didn't believe me. She never forgave me for telling her that. She went to the grave with that denial and our relationship with her was never the same. Women do NOT believe a man can be raped.
I can’t imagine how it is, all my life i have strived to make sure the world is equal in all ways, sexism against men is still sexism, same goes for rape.
Dick will always be my favorite character in DC. He’s authentic, down to earth, relatable, and honest. Those sexual assaults on him were beyond disgusting. Leave my GOAT alone!
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 Talia was retarded and was stupidly retconned to be like that, although I think they finally undid that shitty retcon and re re toned it
Before I read the comments, I already know some degenerates are gonna have something stupid to say like "men can't be rhayped" or "he's lucky" or something smh
Actual insanity for people saying that rape is rape thats it it isnt good and can traumatize you for life and ruin your life like it isnt even funny anymore this is serious yet people joke about it yes the video is about a comic thats fiction but sa for men is real and should be taken serious and not just a joke everybody could go away from im 11 yet i have better intelligence and moralitys then most adults like what the hell
That's why Bruce Wayne said in 1 storyline that the only person worthy to replace him is Dick Grayson. Dick is so mentally mature because he went through a lot of difficult shit at a young age.
@@P.Whitestrakeexcept dick doesn't want to be batman, he only was batman for a time because bruce was presumed dead for the time and he was forced into the role
It won’t seen other videos like it and plenty of people say oh well men unfortunately don’t suffer anything from then talk about how horrible men are then tell them that they should first off get up and do as women say so
@@martinezseymore3007 those people need the instant uno reverse card.... "Women don't suffer, they're horrible and should just do what men tell them to do!" I don't believe the above in quotations, but maybe pushing to emphasize the hypocrisy will help..? I don't know..
how much you wanna bet if Nightwing actually told a member of the Bat-Family about it things would be alot different? Bruce would have done something, Jason probably would have too, he would have been an insesitive dick, no pun but he'd still do something
@@nexusgiga except for the fact that Bruce and Jason had similar things happen to them, if anything they'd be more sympathetic to what happened to Dick than most I think
I mean The Killing Joke is still talked about because it's one of the best comics ever published. It's one of the best known Batman comics and people still talk about it in superlative terms for good reasons. Ask people what Batman comics you should read and the Killing Joke will be on the list. The legacy of these terrible comics is that DC doesn't want people to bring it up. Also unlike the continuing presence of both Babs and the Joker, Tarantula and Mirage aren't exactly important characters. We don't see Nightwing interacting with Mirage anymore but Barbara and Joker have continuing interactions. It's also not a bizarre conclusion to draw. The comic heavily implies that's what's happened. He shoots her but then we see him slowly unbuttoning her shirt. Later when she talks to Batman she says something like "oh god Bruce I remember what he did". This is right when she wakes up in hospital and she's visibly traumatized by what's happened to her and she can't say anything else about it. She's also terrified because the Joker has kidnapped her father and she tells Batman he didn't see the Joker's eyes, he's different now. When the story moves back to Jiim, who's still being held hostage, the Joker shows off the photos he took off Barbara. It's again not explicit but we can see he stripped off all her clothes after she was shot then photographed her. Later Jim can barely get out the words when talking about the photos the Joker showed him, which he says were to drive him mad. So sure maybe Barbara breaks down after being shot in her civilian persona and despite Joker being a serial killing supervillain she thinks him shooting people is an escalation. And sure Jim wouldn't exactly enjoy his daughter being shot and he doesn't know if she's alive at this point. But that's being very generous with the Joker's boundaries and not particularly generous with what qualifies as unspeakable trauma in the Gordon family. She also doesn't just magically regain her ability to walk. Her stories for years focus on surviving and moving past her trauma and her recovery. This was her defining character storyline for years meaning she becomes a hero who survives the Joker. It's the origin story for Oracle. While you can say that's because male sexual assaults aren't taken seriously, and that's also very true, it's because of the systemic sexism that effects all the characters and all their stories. They shrug off what happened to Nightwing but they also have Bruce up and walking after Bane. They're both considered too important as characters. They also need to be kept as superheroes, Babs wasn't so lucky. The editor for Killing Joke was Len Wein and fairly famously was more than happy to see Barbara "crippled". That ironically gave her space to be allowed to process her trauma and allowed her more character growth but it wasn't the intent. The editor didn't like her and was happy to see her suffer. We weren't going to get years of Nightwing dealing with trauma because he's an important character and the view in comics at the time was he couldn't be a hero and suffer emotional trauma. It's the exact same inherent sexism at play it just presents differently. Barbara was never going to get to be the Red Hood just like Jason was never going to be the Oracle. End result is worse comics and worse characterisation for everyone.
I’ve heard claims the writer was “joking” but DC Editorial at the time was like “wait…that’s actually an idea” it was super messed up and I’m glad they didn’t do it
You need to google her (irl) origin story. Thw writer had a dom kink. Its kind of why she has a lasso, and originally ir was her only weakness. No, seriously. Google it.
Technically in some version of Damian's conception Bruce Wayne was raped. In some versions he was drugged, or mind controlled by the al Ghuls in an attempt to make the perfect soldier(that's The Blood Son movie I believe) and thus unable to consent to sexual relations; which is the definition of rape. This event is heavily glossed over due to Batman's alter ego being a "ladies man".
It was also handled poorly but for different reasons. Their canon relationship had a lot of problems and wasn't exactly healthy, he wants to punch criminals dressed as a bat for a living and she's the daughter of the immortal leader of a centuries old murderous cult. It's a lot. But for all the back and forth and nuts comic storylines they were in love. Then along came Grant Morrison. As an aside I am always up for his comics but he's not an easy writer to champion. I totally get his flaws and his annoying habits but think he's an interesting writer when he's off doing his own thing. For this story it's there because he just kinda thought that's what happened. Like sure they might have had a loving relationship or maybe Talia drugged him. Who can know? It was very controversial at the time with a lot of readers and his lazy approach to adding it didn't help. Afterwards there wasn't much of a push to include it because it didn't make a lot of sense and was literally a retcon. Also DC comics so the entire universe has been rebooted a few times since then. So glossed over sure but because it wasn't supposed to be their backstory and now isn't. A lot of poor choices, a lot of Grant Morrison choices but not same terrible choices by DC in regards to Nightwing where this was always canon.
I enjoyed some of Thalia's moments in comics and in the og version of the story where she has a child with Bruce, it is pretty much consensual (they get married beforehand and Bruce is thrilled to have a child). Then Morrison comes along and turns her into a villain. I am a Doom Patrol enthusiast but sometimes Morrison makes choices... They admitted that they didn't read the og story, after all. That was character assassination and as such the SA version of the story is controversial (and often portrayed as a racist decision). There are many retcons for this reason. I really dislike the way that they glossed over the assault in the movie, however. (Just saw that someone above my comment said something similar😅)
@@jugcomics There’s rarely a Spider-Man comic where Peter doesn’t take at least on psychological L. Every likable character that is the physical embodiment of something positive is put through some fucked up shit. Like when Spider-Man got cucked by Osborne. Nightwing is DCs equivalent of Spider-Man.
We need to put a warning sign that goes like this: "Please girls stop rap€&Ing NightWing, although his name is Dick that doesn't mean you can freely use him as a toy"
This would've been the perfect time for Starfire and Batgirl to officially meet(If they haven't already in the comics) and take Mirage and Tarantula to church for a guaranteed "baptism".
@@Theonea883 the boys wants to be edgy, and dark, but they just do violence, and not really on the actual fucked parts of things happening. Example they have a real Nazi racist that never actually says a slur of any kind, unlike the source material, they kinda PG it up and make the show more black and white then the comic.
There are 4 group of people divided in this comment section: -the ones who deny that men can’t get raped -the ones that defend it -the thirsty losers with no future being jealous over a fictional rape -the people commenting about how sad it is
I mean the comics still tried to sweep it under the rug or “slut shame” dick for it, but I hope the video is helpful for any victims of any gender get access to resources
@jugcomics , should we boycott DC comics? I honestly am not a comic book person anyway, and I have dream of creating my own DC cinematic universe that addresses issues like this while also shedding light onto the Batfamily's family dynamics. If I crush DC comics by doing what they won't do, I can force them into acknowledging their terrible double standards and do better for comic book lovers to come. I also get my dream come true of becoming a writer-director who makes content that encourages family values and protecting our fan favorite characters while also punishing the perverts who hurt them. Leave it to me 😈..
@@jugcomics thank you so much🙏🏽 and yeah I think I did after years of therapy, at least for the most part, but I never forget. It's always stuck their in that dark place in my mind.
@@BalbirYaduvanshi07 because these two were just weird and came out of nowhere they didn't even have importance in the story it just happened then was brushed off
Because both of these ended up characterizing dick as secretly enjoying it. Which is wrong. In invincible it was done where he was shown as a real victim
In his og red Robin solo comic run, Tim drake was captured by Ra's al ghuls sister because Tim was refusing to be his heir, so Ra's had his sister (her name slips my mind) take the at the time 16 year old Tim captive so that he could "provide" Ra's with an heir, she got butt naked in front of him and was just starting to undress him when Cassandra Cain jumped in and broke it up, it never really got brought up again, I feel like people forget how much of a creep Ra's is lol
The worst part about the 2nd one is how it is IMMEDIATELY followed with the event that led to the death of Stephanie Brown so Nightwing doesn't get to cope with his current trauma
It's weird that starfire blames him, instead of supporting him and being there in trying time. Honestly, Dick should have been done with her after that.
Poor Nightwing went through so much including sexual assault. It also address the biggest lie that women can’t sexually assault men which is so not true.
Nightwing is definitely the number 1 hottest DC character of all time imo That being said, him being raped makes me feel bad about sexualizing him. He's still a person and shouldn't be looked at like an object
If I ever create my onscreen DC universe once I become a writer-director, don't worry, I shall keep that in mind. I protect our man with all my heart and destroy the wicked who hurt our boy. He shall be free!
But Dick Grayson was always the strongest, brightest, optimistic and full of hope of all the robins, I couldn't imagine all that dirt behind his story.. poor guy.
Damn.... That's awful. I think it's powerful for such a happy and strong character to go through this. Let alone twice. Props to the authors for awareness and sharing the message that it's not the victim's fault, but still, man.
I feel so bad for nightwing because thats what his character has become in the franchise, a punching bag for jokes as well as eye candy and sxualised but then when SA happens to him then its not taken seriously at all either shaming him for being a dog/player or turning it into a joke
It's an unfortunate life changing event for sure, but it does add to Dick Grayson character and demonstrates just how resilient Nightwing is as a hero. The same thing happened to Bruce with Talia, which later resulted in Damien's birth. It brings to light male victims of unwanted non-consental sexual assault/r*pe. I wish the comics revisited the healing process that took place in order for both Dick & Bruce to recover from those traumatic events. It's a topic that impacts both genders and should definitely be discussed even if it is only from time to time.
Bro this can raise the awareness and equality that both men and women can be a victim and a predators too 😢 Poor Dick Grayson Especially men who don't get enough attention about this
OK, I agree that this is a subject (male victims of SA) that needs to be addressed. Having the same character victimized in two different manners by two different preditors is concerning for a few reasons. First of all to have this character (Dick Grayson) become a victim is a powerful message that ANYBODY CAN be a victim of SA. That was good. However, having the same character victimized a second time on a different manner makes it seem as though he somehow is causing this to happen to him, and that is a horrible message to send out.
Then I think fan fic writers have used the 'multiple instances' to comment on victim blaming, slut shaming, how some victims can internalise that sexualization that was forced apon them etc. And created really grounded stories. Also I'm imagining shit or wasn't there also a comic where dick was 16, fresh in bludhaven and some woman uses a sexual relationship to manipulate him? That bloody counts too.
@@gingivitis9148 I don't know about that one, but my point is having him S.A.d already opens all of the important points without giving him additional trauma to work through.
Actually, it would be better if Jason also got involved with the party. Out of all members of the Batfamily, Jason hates rape more than anyone (Felipe Garzonas, people?), and we know he has a soft spot for his family, so really, he should have a say on how to punish the woman who raped his older brother. Double points if Mirage is also brought to trial and punished as well. Maybe Jason can cut their heads off and stuff them in a duffel bag? 😂, oh that duffel bag deserves more credit than it gets for supporting all that weight of eight human heads..
The writer of #93, Devin Grayson (seriously, when your last name is literally Grayson, you know you were just bound to end up being involved with Nightwing eventually) at first claimed it was ‘non-consensual’ and not r@pe. She did apologize for that later on once she realized that non-consensual sex and r@pe are basically synonyms (and she didn’t know it… before…?) “I was wrong. I messed that one up and I apologize. My interview comments were uninformed and ignorant and I’m grateful for the chance to revisit the issue.” I will give credit that it was pretty ahead of its time for the comic to address SA done to men rather than just women. But seriously, #93 and the issues leading up to it is probably the darkest moment in the history of the character. Really sad 😔
The sad thing is that this is more common than a lot of people probably think. Many people will tell you that men SA women more than women SA men. While that’s more or less true as far as I know, a lot of people will also tell you that even when men do get SA’d, it’s usually by other men. But the problem with that is that the statistics (by the CDC for example) they often use only accounts for forced penetration (which is not always but usually done by men) and separates men being forced *to* penetrate *by* the assailant (which is not always but usually done by women) as a different category, with that category being around 1 in 9 men last I read. So while I grant that the majority of abuse is still done by men, when the victim *is* male, it actually is more often women than other men.
This is why I love Nightwing and Spider-Man. They show how real these types of things can get, being poverty, sexual abuse, cheating, death, depression, abandonment, abuse, and so much other stuff
I think the Mirage incident can be swept aside cause of all the universe resets but stuff like Tarantula & Talia need serious & earnest addressing, not a retcon to undo it.
This made me so mad not just because I feel like dick should’ve beat the fuck out of her but also because he didn’t deserve this he’s a nice guy who wants to help people I hope this got retconned by the new 52
The second one was really disturbing since Nightwing was poisoned, his body was numb and perhaps going into shock. Tarantula took advantage of him in the worst way. In real life this would be basically violating someone when they are super drunk or drugged.
Actually, worse, I heard it happened 3 times. The third one is some Asian girl whose name I forgot about, and they say she did it while he was 17. How despicable! 😡
Batman himself was also assaulted in order to have Damien; it would be so cool if these facts were more widely known so that men/boys could see their heroes and know that even they can fall victim to these kinds of things, but that they're still heroes, no less of a person and have no reason to feel shame for what's happened to them.
I know the slut shaming was meant to be a comedic moment with her then asking who’s better but who finds out their friend was tricked into sex and proceeds to call them a slut and ask them how it was
Finally someone brought that up too cuz I didn't like how they handled Nightwing in that movie at all 💀 I still love Harley Quinn but damn, that screen rubbed me the wrong way. Nightwing couldn't push Harley away or do anything because he was tied up to a bed, and everyone saying it's consensual just cuz he got a b*ner ?? Harley took advantaged of him in that same moment like Mirage and Tarantula did; and it fucking disappoints me that people like the one in these replies fail to see that.
@@LilMxShivani wait IDK what i was thinking of, this is the batman and harley Quinn movie right? If so they were literally just having a fuckin tickle fight if i remember correctly
Whats annoying? I saw one in the video that someone working there made a statement saying the one with tarantula didn't count because he "enjoyed it" 😐
I feel like Dick Grayson and Invincible are the only comic book heroes who shows sexual assault on men. Pretty ballsy choice as a writer since male sexual assault is usually played for laughs.
I hope people are aware that many men actually do enjoy when such a circumstance occurs but it certainly isn't every male. That generalization has to stop. A lot of men can't even mention that they were raped and be taken seriously.
@@MarcoTheDarco Funny thing is, he does mention that afterwards he liked it for Tarantula, which is why it's not a great example of a male being a rape victim to a woman.
Nightwing 🤝 Invincible
Graysons who got r**ed.
Thats what i thought when i first read invincible
Wym? 😢@@yahyahyor
So is the boys an honorable mention?
To top it off, Devin "Grayson" was the writer for that second incident. She said "it wasn't r*pe, it was just sex without consent."
@@jonathananderson5990 in other words RAAAAAAAAAPE!
Ah yes he gets tricked into sleeping with someone he thought was starfire and then it's somehow his fault and gets blamed by everyone including star. Bloody brilliant.
Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me.
A lot of victims have and are still blamed for their own being assaulted so its really not a stretch to believe. Plus that was in 1992 where everyone was way more stupid about such things
That’s actually extremely realistic. Maybe that’s what the writers were going for?
Didn’t a similar situation happen between Green Arrow and Shado back in the day?
@@noahlarose7371 And Bruce & Talia
I don't know why, but the words "Don't touch me," feel *so* much more "real" than just something as simple as "No, don't," or "Stop."
It's actually damn depressing
It hurt me reading it. He knew his body was shutting down and what was gonna happen next. Literally what most victims go through and it so sad how it’s brushed over.
Doesn't he just say don't touch me because he thinks he's poisonous because that's what he says "don't touch me... I'm poisonous" so is he just trying to protect her from being poisoned or am i retarded?
@@zXHawkxEyeXzyes hes says it because of that but it still weird because does she know he wants it?
That is not how this works. All of these words have the same weight and should be equally taken seriously
Why is it always the nicest characters that get violated the most. I'm starting to think the writers have a fetish for this kinda stuff
It's seen a lot in writing, it's like the writers like their characters going through worse and worse scenarios the nicer they are, like spider man. All to show they can bounce back. But it's still F&#%$d up to showcase regardless.
Same with invincible
its because it brings more attention to it... if a mean character got raped you would probably feel less sympathy but if a nice one did then you would care a lot more
@Hello (: it's still kinda strange that Nightwing got raped literally 3 times. Twice in the comics and once in animation. Like, they could've at least used someone else.
If you read brat pack comic
The creator shows you the type of writers and viewers in a mocking manner
Honestly these comics should be a wake up call about how men can also be sexually assaulted by female predetors.
i wish they dived deeper into the long lasting trauma of sexual assault instead of treating it like getting beat up by another villain. i think the only superhero that explored it was Jessica Jones and kinda Green Arrow
@@HELLO_KORO Invincible also showed this brand of sexual assault and the trauma that came after it very accurately.
Facts
Need me a female predator ngl
They won't feminism and wokeness will make sure of it unfortunately
Nightwing 🤝🏾 Spiderman = writer abuse
@@midnightxtaleI personally think both are great and well written stories!
Invincible too
@@Jason.todd.arkhamyea same love them both🔥
@@midnightxtaleit's not like every marvel comic is a kid story
There are some veru good comic books from marvel as well
( Old man Logan , Immortal Hulk , The Amazing spiderman, The Spectacular Spiderman, Deadpool kills the Marvel universe , X men comics ) all of them are very good
Add Invincible as well
The worst part about the tarantula one was it took years for the author to admit it was SA.
she sucks
Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me.
The council has awarded you one singular yike
Jeez, really?
@@jackmrsich3178
Yep. She kept sayin it was a “non-consensual love scene”
The Robins can't catch a
Break.. they like a bunch of Peter Parkers
A bunch of well-written, well-handled Peter Parkers. I would kill for a good writer like Tom Taylor to write Spider Man. Instead we get Zeb Wells or Dan Slott.
I don't remember spider-man ever getting raped
@@miracon000fez no but he got cucked in the recent comic and in the past but it got retconned after
But Mary Jane has children with some other guy for an event that should have never been written in the first place
@@lunosol8914 fuck that whore also i hate that actress of mj too
@@miracon000fez Yeah but he did kinda lose everything one could possobly lose in their life, multiple times. Literally even lost his body for quite a while at some point. Rape is on the very short list of things that didn't happen to him YET
Comic writers like infusing their Unwanted fetishes into stories, like bro didn't deserve none of this
It sometimes feels like the darker tha backstory the more it adds to their character and builds them
Male sexual assault is severally overlooked. A lot of people think guys can't be sexually assaulted by women just because they are males. I've heard comments like, "He probably wanted it anyway." Do you know how messed up that is? Guys have a right to their bodies, too. They have the right to say no. Not to mention male on male sexual assault which is also wrong.
Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me.
Thats pretty controversial to alot of people but also totally true.
Very rare case tho
@@nathanchishi7245 not rare. Its just not discussed
@@nathanchishi7245 Rare my ass, Men just dont easily discuss these things because people like you go and say shit like that, or say they wanted it ect.... So it usually get bottled up and never talked causing different issues.
I was aware of Tarantula assaulting him, but I didn’t know this had happened before with Mirage. That’s fucked up. And they never really address it after Dick had a full on breakdown after Tarantula.🤬
Worse part was that the titans blamed Dick and Mirage never got any punishment.
Dc sometimes uses titan as punching bags and fodder for crisis events. But somehow Mirage is always spared from all that.
@Trenton Doucette Starfire also blamed Dick like the other Titans.
Although she is better than the rest because she at least blames Mirage as well.
@@huntertezz yikes, yeah they really haven’t handled that well at all. Mirage hasn’t show up often enough for me to remember she exists to be honest. But I don’t read the Nightwing comics, so I could be wrong
@Trenton Doucette Not gonna lie, but they did Grayson dirty as hell, he honestly deserves better than that.😔😔😔
You're acting as if it actually happened
Poor Nightwing, after everything he’s been through he deserves better. He’s one of my all time favorite characters in DC Comics. And DC really put a big spotlight on the truth of assault on men, showed everyone that we are all equal. DC is such a beautiful verse, my favorite verse actually. They just need to bring Nightwing back into the comics once more, and give him a lot of buffs, he’s been very underrated for a long time even though he’s one of the toughest combatants in the bat family.
Nightwing, the male character who gets the heroine treatment. Over sexualized covers, characters degrading him to be a sex object, "buttwing", and SA top it off with writer fetish.
Male SA is so highly under reported, especially done by the opposite gender. Bat family in particular is very much used. Thalia with Bruce and Jason, Dick too many to count, Tim with Thalia half sister. Comes out as a "joke". Like lol men getting SA lol
The toxic male culture of bottling up your feelings, plus heteronormative narrative many men irl dont come forward. Being told "noice" if its a female predator. South Park covered this with Ike and his teacher, no one took it seriously. Just thinking this preschooler had game to be with a teacher, not the female teacher was a creep.
I, plus male friends of mine who've been assaulted. Have been slut shamed, called dogs/players, nothing done. I had a former boss assault me on a business trip, she made everyone think i was unhindged and crazy. And making me seem like the villain for "accusing" her. So when i came out, no one believed me until months later. When i left and it happened to 3 other men.
I’m so sorry that happened to you. I hope you found support and care somewhere and you are working through your trauma
great comment. this character really does get the heroine treatment and i’m not sure why. the south park episode is a great reference because although it may be satire that is EXACTLY what people say when men are sa’d. i’m glad these important conversations are starting to happen!
Yeah, Talia really a serial rap*st. Like people say her drugging bats was OOC but she legit did it with Jason knowing he was outta his mind from the pit and not able to consent AND a minor. Like😬
That's a pattern.
Hey man, I'm so sorry that shit happened to you. Thank you so much for talking about it here, it really needed to be said. Have a hug from one survivor to another 🫂✨️
Damn. Sorry that happened to you bro.
I was sexually assaulted twice by my mother's friend and I didn't tell my mother until year's later and she didn't believe me. She never forgave me for telling her that. She went to the grave with that denial and our relationship with her was never the same. Women do NOT believe a man can be raped.
I’m so sorry to hear that happened to you. I hope you found ways to overcome the trauma from that and I wish you all the best.
I'm truly sorry that that happened, people like your mother are just as bad as rapists, no offense.
I can’t imagine how it is, all my life i have strived to make sure the world is equal in all ways, sexism against men is still sexism, same goes for rape.
Damn im sorry for you
I'm sorry what happened to you.
Dick will always be my favorite character in DC. He’s authentic, down to earth, relatable, and honest. Those sexual assaults on him were beyond disgusting. Leave my GOAT alone!
W dc for showing it's not always women who are rape victim
It happened to Green Arrow and Batman as well
@@randomduck8679 batman with Talia but when was the green arrow one?
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 Shado disguised herself as Black Canary and slept with Oliver without him knowing.
The Batman version is better and more meaningful/impactful and wasn't done to sexualise the character beyond belief
@@leafyishereisdumbnameakath4259 Talia was retarded and was stupidly retconned to be like that, although I think they finally undid that shitty retcon and re re toned it
Writers have a problem with making Nightwing get sexually assault multiple times.
Before I read the comments, I already know some degenerates are gonna have something stupid to say like "men can't be rhayped" or "he's lucky" or something smh
You were correct
Actual insanity for people saying that rape is rape thats it it isnt good and can traumatize you for life and ruin your life like it isnt even funny anymore this is serious yet people joke about it yes the video is about a comic thats fiction but sa for men is real and should be taken serious and not just a joke everybody could go away from im 11 yet i have better intelligence and moralitys then most adults like what the hell
My favorite part is that after all this happens to Dick, he's still the positive older brother of the family. Truly an inspiration to us all.
Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me.
Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me.
That's why Bruce Wayne said in 1 storyline that the only person worthy to replace him is Dick Grayson. Dick is so mentally mature because he went through a lot of difficult shit at a young age.
some girls rode his dick, he didnt get butt plugged
@@P.Whitestrakeexcept dick doesn't want to be batman, he only was batman for a time because bruce was presumed dead for the time and he was forced into the role
Mirage pulled a "it was me, Barry" on Nightwing 😭
OH FUCK
@@ABagelLeftOnTheRoadside WAITWAITWAITWAIT!!!
Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me.
I was bouta say that fr
Or a dio
Nightwing has a lot of mental strength to overcome these events and his parent's deaths, and all the other awful things he's gone through.
Maybe this’ll show people that sexual predators can be of any sex
It won’t seen other videos like it and plenty of people say oh well men unfortunately don’t suffer anything from then talk about how horrible men are then tell them that they should first off get up and do as women say so
@@martinezseymore3007 well that’s people for you…
@@martinezseymore3007 those people need the instant uno reverse card....
"Women don't suffer, they're horrible and should just do what men tell them to do!"
I don't believe the above in quotations, but maybe pushing to emphasize the hypocrisy will help..? I don't know..
I didn't anyone denies it.
@@ClonserHalphalive nope, if you're dealing with someone who legit hates men they will *find* a way to say that they're right and you're wrong.
Bat girl gets shot and everyone still talks about it saying joker raped her. We get two on screen rapes of nightwing and it’s “eh”
how much you wanna bet if Nightwing actually told a member of the Bat-Family about it things would be alot different? Bruce would have done something, Jason probably would have too, he would have been an insesitive dick, no pun but he'd still do something
@@ComanderRilldo not really, when men are raped it’s ignored and we’re told “no you weren’t”
@@nexusgiga except for the fact that Bruce and Jason had similar things happen to them, if anything they'd be more sympathetic to what happened to Dick than most I think
@@ComanderRilldo yeah and dc had to retcon Bruce being raped, which is still a huge problem
I mean The Killing Joke is still talked about because it's one of the best comics ever published. It's one of the best known Batman comics and people still talk about it in superlative terms for good reasons. Ask people what Batman comics you should read and the Killing Joke will be on the list.
The legacy of these terrible comics is that DC doesn't want people to bring it up. Also unlike the continuing presence of both Babs and the Joker, Tarantula and Mirage aren't exactly important characters. We don't see Nightwing interacting with Mirage anymore but Barbara and Joker have continuing interactions.
It's also not a bizarre conclusion to draw. The comic heavily implies that's what's happened. He shoots her but then we see him slowly unbuttoning her shirt. Later when she talks to Batman she says something like "oh god Bruce I remember what he did". This is right when she wakes up in hospital and she's visibly traumatized by what's happened to her and she can't say anything else about it. She's also terrified because the Joker has kidnapped her father and she tells Batman he didn't see the Joker's eyes, he's different now. When the story moves back to Jiim, who's still being held hostage, the Joker shows off the photos he took off Barbara. It's again not explicit but we can see he stripped off all her clothes after she was shot then photographed her. Later Jim can barely get out the words when talking about the photos the Joker showed him, which he says were to drive him mad.
So sure maybe Barbara breaks down after being shot in her civilian persona and despite Joker being a serial killing supervillain she thinks him shooting people is an escalation. And sure Jim wouldn't exactly enjoy his daughter being shot and he doesn't know if she's alive at this point. But that's being very generous with the Joker's boundaries and not particularly generous with what qualifies as unspeakable trauma in the Gordon family.
She also doesn't just magically regain her ability to walk. Her stories for years focus on surviving and moving past her trauma and her recovery. This was her defining character storyline for years meaning she becomes a hero who survives the Joker. It's the origin story for Oracle.
While you can say that's because male sexual assaults aren't taken seriously, and that's also very true, it's because of the systemic sexism that effects all the characters and all their stories.
They shrug off what happened to Nightwing but they also have Bruce up and walking after Bane. They're both considered too important as characters. They also need to be kept as superheroes, Babs wasn't so lucky. The editor for Killing Joke was Len Wein and fairly famously was more than happy to see Barbara "crippled". That ironically gave her space to be allowed to process her trauma and allowed her more character growth but it wasn't the intent. The editor didn't like her and was happy to see her suffer. We weren't going to get years of Nightwing dealing with trauma because he's an important character and the view in comics at the time was he couldn't be a hero and suffer emotional trauma. It's the exact same inherent sexism at play it just presents differently. Barbara was never going to get to be the Red Hood just like Jason was never going to be the Oracle. End result is worse comics and worse characterisation for everyone.
Mirage and Taranula making me contemplate breaking Bruce’s no kill rule…..
A woman can be a rapist. Even if this one is a fictional character, it still counts.
Didn't a flight stewardess like r@p3 a 16 yo?
Its slightly old news but wtf
Yeah like no one talks about how Talia (Damian’s mom) raped Batman and that how Damian was conceived
@@earthtohannah6260that’s only in some versions, in other versions it was consensual
@@Prynce_P1 true sorry that’s the way it was rewritten technically now it’s canon because of the most recent dc reboot but the original was consensual
Anyone remember when one of the writers wanted wonder woman get sexually violated in PUBLIC?? LIKE WHAT THE FUCK WAS HE ON??
I’ve heard claims the writer was “joking” but DC Editorial at the time was like “wait…that’s actually an idea” it was super messed up and I’m glad they didn’t do it
@@jugcomics
Wow! That's something you don't joke about. Just wow.
Flakka?
@@Elbaz8 People joke about Hitler and 9/11 both of which are 1000 times worse
You need to google her (irl) origin story.
Thw writer had a dom kink. Its kind of why she has a lasso, and originally ir was her only weakness.
No, seriously. Google it.
"When a man walks behind a woman, it's suspicious. But when a woman does it..."
Then nobody cares .__.
Technically in some version of Damian's conception Bruce Wayne was raped. In some versions he was drugged, or mind controlled by the al Ghuls in an attempt to make the perfect soldier(that's The Blood Son movie I believe) and thus unable to consent to sexual relations; which is the definition of rape. This event is heavily glossed over due to Batman's alter ego being a "ladies man".
That was the original version, and the version I go by, Bruce being date raped. Talia is hot. Talia is also out of her mind
This is one of the reasonings and excuses used on rape victims in defense of the rapist.
I remember in the movie they play it off as a joke...
It was also handled poorly but for different reasons. Their canon relationship had a lot of problems and wasn't exactly healthy, he wants to punch criminals dressed as a bat for a living and she's the daughter of the immortal leader of a centuries old murderous cult. It's a lot. But for all the back and forth and nuts comic storylines they were in love. Then along came Grant Morrison.
As an aside I am always up for his comics but he's not an easy writer to champion. I totally get his flaws and his annoying habits but think he's an interesting writer when he's off doing his own thing.
For this story it's there because he just kinda thought that's what happened. Like sure they might have had a loving relationship or maybe Talia drugged him. Who can know?
It was very controversial at the time with a lot of readers and his lazy approach to adding it didn't help. Afterwards there wasn't much of a push to include it because it didn't make a lot of sense and was literally a retcon. Also DC comics so the entire universe has been rebooted a few times since then. So glossed over sure but because it wasn't supposed to be their backstory and now isn't.
A lot of poor choices, a lot of Grant Morrison choices but not same terrible choices by DC in regards to Nightwing where this was always canon.
I enjoyed some of Thalia's moments in comics and in the og version of the story where she has a child with Bruce, it is pretty much consensual (they get married beforehand and Bruce is thrilled to have a child). Then Morrison comes along and turns her into a villain.
I am a Doom Patrol enthusiast but sometimes Morrison makes choices... They admitted that they didn't read the og story, after all.
That was character assassination and as such the SA version of the story is controversial (and often portrayed as a racist decision). There are many retcons for this reason.
I really dislike the way that they glossed over the assault in the movie, however.
(Just saw that someone above my comment said something similar😅)
The Robins be catching the worst kind of smoke every single time.
He got SA'd twice and people CHEERED 😐 like you actually can't make this up
it took me 5 seconds to find a commenter say that "it should have been me instead"....😐 You will begin to cough in 7 days
@@monovatherealestwell lonely sad men gonna do anything to get layed
Including the writer. Nowadays they just try to pretend it didn't happen.
The "Spider-Man" Disease runs rampant in comics and Idek why
Which “Spider-Man” disease are you referring to
@@jugcomics The torturing of well liked characters for no reason.
The long lasting effects of "the 90s"
@@jugcomics There’s rarely a Spider-Man comic where Peter doesn’t take at least on psychological L. Every likable character that is the physical embodiment of something positive is put through some fucked up shit. Like when Spider-Man got cucked by Osborne.
Nightwing is DCs equivalent of Spider-Man.
@@MrWongWey that's a yikes
Honestly sickening that this happens in real life and is swept under the rug even more irl
Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me.
This does not happen in real life lmao
@@Wisdom-zv6zq
"This does not happen in real life lmao"
- dude who should change his name because it clearly does not suit him
@@Wisdom-zv6zqthe smartest feminist:
We need to put a warning sign that goes like this:
"Please girls stop rap€&Ing NightWing, although his name is Dick that doesn't mean you can freely use him as a toy"
This would've been the perfect time for Starfire and Batgirl to officially meet(If they haven't already in the comics) and take Mirage and Tarantula to church for a guaranteed "baptism".
Let’s see if Amazon has the balls to animated Mark and Anissa “relationship”.
They won’t
@@thegamingbendu what about the boys
@@thegamingbendu they will. It's kind of integral to his son's story.
They showed a guy crawling into another guy's @#$# . I don't think they're above doing this.
@@Theonea883 the boys wants to be edgy, and dark, but they just do violence, and not really on the actual fucked parts of things happening. Example they have a real Nazi racist that never actually says a slur of any kind, unlike the source material, they kinda PG it up and make the show more black and white then the comic.
In the words of Twitter Women:
“MeN cAn’T bE rApEd!”
In the wise words of Chad:
“Yes they can.”
Chad is the hero we deserve.
There are 4 group of people divided in this comment section:
-the ones who deny that men can’t get raped
-the ones that defend it
-the thirsty losers with no future being jealous over a fictional rape
-the people commenting about how sad it is
Correct me if im wrong
Wrong. Because you only listed 4 groups.
@@BruceWayne-yn6ur oh noes
And me. 5 - the guy who made the video
@@jugcomics W
This is a good way to bring awareness that men get raped and sexually assaulted too and that women can be sexual predators too
I mean the comics still tried to sweep it under the rug or “slut shame” dick for it, but I hope the video is helpful for any victims of any gender get access to resources
A woman cannot rape a man!
@jugcomics , should we boycott DC comics? I honestly am not a comic book person anyway, and I have dream of creating my own DC cinematic universe that addresses issues like this while also shedding light onto the Batfamily's family dynamics. If I crush DC comics by doing what they won't do, I can force them into acknowledging their terrible double standards and do better for comic book lovers to come. I also get my dream come true of becoming a writer-director who makes content that encourages family values and protecting our fan favorite characters while also punishing the perverts who hurt them. Leave it to me 😈..
That's sick. As a man I've been rped before. It makes you feel so vulnerable and weak to have someone take advantage of you. 😢
I’m so sorry to hear that. I hope you got the help you needed
@@jugcomics thank you so much🙏🏽 and yeah I think I did after years of therapy, at least for the most part, but I never forget. It's always stuck their in that dark place in my mind.
@@reel1tv587 I hope you get better 😢🙏
Ohhh when invincible did it... It's shocking amazing so heart wrenching and when dc did it...why dc... I can smell double standards here
respectfully, what the fuck are you saying, both invincible's & nightwing's SA case were crtically acclaimed
what
@@danieljayne the same thing happened in invincible comics... Nd it was praised as an amazing story telling
@@BalbirYaduvanshi07 because these two were just weird and came out of nowhere they didn't even have importance in the story it just happened then was brushed off
Because both of these ended up characterizing dick as secretly enjoying it. Which is wrong. In invincible it was done where he was shown as a real victim
" Men cant get raped" 🤓
Clearly you never watch The Shawshank Redemption
@@shanewoody4232 bro being sarcastic
💀look at the bottom comment in this video
@@C4rbzz wtf
@@DoomBoom931 that’s what I’m saying, there’s always gonna be that one creep applauding it
Wtf is up with DC and having the Bat Family violated sexually
In his og red Robin solo comic run, Tim drake was captured by Ra's al ghuls sister because Tim was refusing to be his heir, so Ra's had his sister (her name slips my mind) take the at the time 16 year old Tim captive so that he could "provide" Ra's with an heir, she got butt naked in front of him and was just starting to undress him when Cassandra Cain jumped in and broke it up, it never really got brought up again, I feel like people forget how much of a creep Ra's is lol
Talia roofied Bruce- the crazy got passed on
omg tim tooo!!! which issue that happened ???
Invincible: *gets raped*
Nightwing: first time?
*spits out drink*
First time Mr Grayson?
Yes it is Mr Grayson!
Have a seat Mr Grayson.
Thank you Mr Grayson!
Dude...
Really?
@@Dr_Mundo yeah, in the Books/Comics Invincible/Mark was raped by a Viltrumite for those that need to know.
The worst part about the 2nd one is how it is IMMEDIATELY followed with the event that led to the death of Stephanie Brown so Nightwing doesn't get to cope with his current trauma
I appreciate the addition of a helpline at the beginning of this clip. Hopefully it helps victims.
Thank you
Thank you
@@jugcomics thank you
They better pray that Jason doesn’t hear about this
if it was up to him she’d be dead!
He's gonna be walking up to them with a crowbar with malicious intent
Depends on which version
It's weird that starfire blames him, instead of supporting him and being there in trying time. Honestly, Dick should have been done with her after that.
Don’t blame the fictional character,blame the writer
Poor Nightwing went through so much including sexual assault. It also address the biggest lie that women can’t sexually assault men which is so not true.
That is so messed up omw.... There need to be more awareness on male sexual assault honestly. Breaks my heart :(
Nightwing is definitely the number 1 hottest DC character of all time imo
That being said, him being raped makes me feel bad about sexualizing him. He's still a person and shouldn't be looked at like an object
If I ever create my onscreen DC universe once I become a writer-director, don't worry, I shall keep that in mind. I protect our man with all my heart and destroy the wicked who hurt our boy. He shall be free!
Night wing and robins in general have Spider-Man level luck
Wait “luck”? That’s scary boii
I wish Babs comforted him after Tarantula. She’d get it.
Damian was retconned to have been conceived nonconsensually as well. Bat family is a magnet for this stuff.
But Dick Grayson was always the strongest, brightest, optimistic and full of hope of all the robins, I couldn't imagine all that dirt behind his story.. poor guy.
I don't think Peter got traumatized THIS MUCH in one moment
And hopefully he never will
True! However, Ultimate Peter Parker Was a Tad close. That Peter Life Was Something 😳
Well Peter was actually molested and possibly raped when he was younger in one story line so who knows
Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me.
Ain't no way you think getting raped is anywhere close to as traumatic as what peter's being through nah bro its not even close
The fact tarantula is a a self insert of the author makes it worse
I will always imagine Alfred and the rest of the Batfamilly find Tarantula and Mirage and bear the shit out of them.
Damn.... That's awful. I think it's powerful for such a happy and strong character to go through this. Let alone twice. Props to the authors for awareness and sharing the message that it's not the victim's fault, but still, man.
Me personally, I would NEVER let that happen to me twice
Mark Grayson: Anissa just...
Dick Grayson: First time?
I feel so bad for nightwing because thats what his character has become in the franchise, a punching bag for jokes as well as eye candy and sxualised but then when SA happens to him then its not taken seriously at all either shaming him for being a dog/player or turning it into a joke
It's an unfortunate life changing event for sure, but it does add to Dick Grayson character and demonstrates just how resilient Nightwing is as a hero.
The same thing happened to Bruce with Talia, which later resulted in Damien's birth.
It brings to light male victims of unwanted non-consental sexual assault/r*pe. I wish the comics revisited the healing process that took place in order for both Dick & Bruce to recover from those traumatic events. It's a topic that impacts both genders and should definitely be discussed even if it is only from time to time.
Nightwing just might be the spiderman of DC they try to find the next way to mentally or physically torture him.
And these white beta male hacks at dc and marvel scratch their heads and wonder why the comics sales are going downhill at dc and marvel
First Invincible, Batman, and now Nightwing?
Holy shit.
I also think it happened to Captain Britain from Marvel. The guy, not the current one.
@@biecie I knew what you meant, I don’t know why Marvel took the name after DC was already using it
@@daemonlynn7616 DC was using the name Captain Britain? Or we you mistaken with Captain Marvel?
@@biecie my bad I mistakenly read that wrong
This happened before Invincible was even a comic.
Bro this can raise the awareness and equality that both men and women can be a victim and a predators too 😢 Poor Dick Grayson Especially men who don't get enough attention about this
Bro this is actually so sad, I feel so bad for him
OK, I agree that this is a subject (male victims of SA) that needs to be addressed. Having the same character victimized in two different manners by two different preditors is concerning for a few reasons. First of all to have this character (Dick Grayson) become a victim is a powerful message that ANYBODY CAN be a victim of SA. That was good. However, having the same character victimized a second time on a different manner makes it seem as though he somehow is causing this to happen to him, and that is a horrible message to send out.
I want people to boycott DC comics and ensure they learn their lesson before they lose sales for this..
Then I think fan fic writers have used the 'multiple instances' to comment on victim blaming, slut shaming, how some victims can internalise that sexualization that was forced apon them etc. And created really grounded stories.
Also I'm imagining shit or wasn't there also a comic where dick was 16, fresh in bludhaven and some woman uses a sexual relationship to manipulate him? That bloody counts too.
@@gingivitis9148 I don't know about that one, but my point is having him S.A.d already opens all of the important points without giving him additional trauma to work through.
Zack Snyder once said that he want to show Batman got rape in prison by male prisoners 💀
😂 wtf
@@maul8384 yes it's true 💀
pls fire that man
Now, someone makes a comic where Starfire, Barbara, Raven, & Donna Troy have a little "talk" with Tarantula
Take my money
SOMEONE HAS TO. IF I COULD DRAW IT WOULD BE ME
Actually, it would be better if Jason also got involved with the party. Out of all members of the Batfamily, Jason hates rape more than anyone (Felipe Garzonas, people?), and we know he has a soft spot for his family, so really, he should have a say on how to punish the woman who raped his older brother. Double points if Mirage is also brought to trial and punished as well. Maybe Jason can cut their heads off and stuff them in a duffel bag? 😂, oh that duffel bag deserves more credit than it gets for supporting all that weight of eight human heads..
No Fanfic😊
Take all my money
The writer of #93, Devin Grayson (seriously, when your last name is literally Grayson, you know you were just bound to end up being involved with Nightwing eventually) at first claimed it was ‘non-consensual’ and not r@pe. She did apologize for that later on once she realized that non-consensual sex and r@pe are basically synonyms (and she didn’t know it… before…?)
“I was wrong. I messed that one up and I apologize. My interview comments were uninformed and ignorant and I’m grateful for the chance to revisit the issue.”
I will give credit that it was pretty ahead of its time for the comic to address SA done to men rather than just women. But seriously, #93 and the issues leading up to it is probably the darkest moment in the history of the character. Really sad 😔
Hold on... SHE?!
Honestly I thought this about to go into the THICC GRAYSON storyline
@Liyid For some reason he always has a really nice ass??? XD
@@Liyid Dick has a big firm butt.😆
@Liyid Nightwing has a fatty, lol
Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me.
Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me. 😊
The sad thing is that this is more common than a lot of people probably think. Many people will tell you that men SA women more than women SA men. While that’s more or less true as far as I know, a lot of people will also tell you that even when men do get SA’d, it’s usually by other men. But the problem with that is that the statistics (by the CDC for example) they often use only accounts for forced penetration (which is not always but usually done by men) and separates men being forced *to* penetrate *by* the assailant (which is not always but usually done by women) as a different category, with that category being around 1 in 9 men last I read.
So while I grant that the majority of abuse is still done by men, when the victim *is* male, it actually is more often women than other men.
This is why I love Nightwing and Spider-Man. They show how real these types of things can get, being poverty, sexual abuse, cheating, death, depression, abandonment, abuse, and so much other stuff
Father and son were both vulnerable. This makes me sad
I think the Mirage incident can be swept aside cause of all the universe resets but stuff like Tarantula & Talia need serious & earnest addressing, not a retcon to undo it.
He deserves better. He always deserves better
This made me so mad not just because I feel like dick should’ve beat the fuck out of her but also because he didn’t deserve this he’s a nice guy who wants to help people I hope this got retconned by the new 52
She never got punished for this and nobody talks about this ever again
Stf* u virg*n night wing was lucky he got to fuck twice i would love any girl to do it to me.
I agree.
jesus wtf dc
DC makes some crazy decisions!
Can relate
@@_Observer_961 hello Tim Drake
Batman was also raped by talia and i think another time idk but fo sure by talia and technically Damien is a rape baby
@@jugcomics hi
The second one was really disturbing since Nightwing was poisoned, his body was numb and perhaps going into shock. Tarantula took advantage of him in the worst way.
In real life this would be basically violating someone when they are super drunk or drugged.
Give my boy a break he doesn't deserve this
Ah hell nah first I learnt Invincible was assaulted now I learn it happened to my man Nightwing TWICE?!
It fucking sucks to be a Grayson fr
Actually, worse, I heard it happened 3 times. The third one is some Asian girl whose name I forgot about, and they say she did it while he was 17. How despicable! 😡
@TimTomToeofficialI read a comment that Tim was *about* to get gRaped but Cassandra stopped it before it went too far.
The message was sweet enough already but you make it that much sweeter, you're voice and energy are just so warm and welcoming, thank you for this 😁
No ones talking about the fact he was taken advantage of by heroes
If I had a nickel for every time someone with the last name "Grayson" had this happen to them, I'd have two nickels : (
Maybe even three since it happened to this Grayson twice
Dick Grayson & Mark Grayson would have a lot to talk about if they ever met
Batman himself was also assaulted in order to have Damien; it would be so cool if these facts were more widely known so that men/boys could see their heroes and know that even they can fall victim to these kinds of things, but that they're still heroes, no less of a person and have no reason to feel shame for what's happened to them.
I know the slut shaming was meant to be a comedic moment with her then asking who’s better but who finds out their friend was tricked into sex and proceeds to call them a slut and ask them how it was
Poor man. I don't know why Batman didn't avenge him. 😢
That's terrible. He also got sexually assaulted by Harley Quinn in Batman and Harley Quinn. Words can't describe how terrible this is
She? or he?
@@spy-ik3cx Yes I meant he. 😂 thanks for the tip, I must have overlooked it. Just edited it
Technically 3 times if you count the Harley Quinn movie as canon
I'm pretty sure they were just getting freaky in that one
Batman and harley quinn? Dawg that one was consensual 💀
That was consentual
Finally someone brought that up too cuz I didn't like how they handled Nightwing in that movie at all 💀 I still love Harley Quinn but damn, that screen rubbed me the wrong way.
Nightwing couldn't push Harley away or do anything because he was tied up to a bed, and everyone saying it's consensual just cuz he got a b*ner ?? Harley took advantaged of him in that same moment like Mirage and Tarantula did; and it fucking disappoints me that people like the one in these replies fail to see that.
@@LilMxShivani wait IDK what i was thinking of, this is the batman and harley Quinn movie right? If so they were literally just having a fuckin tickle fight if i remember correctly
I'm glad he has the kind, loving and compassionate Starfire.
Whats annoying? I saw one in the video that someone working there made a statement saying the one with tarantula didn't count because he "enjoyed it" 😐
this dude is literally the peter parker of dc
And they say I had it bad. I mean, Dick didn’t die but for the most moral member of the Bat-family, he really deserved better.
Holy shit it’s Redhood
@@1stCommentCop holy shit it’s me
I feel like Dick Grayson and Invincible are the only comic book heroes who shows sexual assault on men. Pretty ballsy choice as a writer since male sexual assault is usually played for laughs.
“He probably liked it”-👩🏼
other men say that tho
I see a lot of people from both genders and all walks of life saying that in this comment section tbh
I hope people are aware that many men actually do enjoy when such a circumstance occurs but it certainly isn't every male. That generalization has to stop. A lot of men can't even mention that they were raped and be taken seriously.
@@samalexander2712 Nightwing definitely didn’t like it though bro was paralyzed and raped by Big booty Latina and had to watch in pain
@@MarcoTheDarco Funny thing is, he does mention that afterwards he liked it for Tarantula, which is why it's not a great example of a male being a rape victim to a woman.
Dick Grayson and spiderman just got it different😭
People also don’t realize men can also get sexually harassed or assaulted
The panel shot of tarantula and Nightwing gave Invincible vibes. If you know you know
I know 😞